Allen: Favre Saga is "Annoying"
by Anthony21 on Jul 18, 2009 1:20 PM CDT
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The Viking Age points us to another member of the defensive line expressing a bit of frustration about how the Favre saga is playing out. Ray Edwards generated some controversy back in June when he criticized Favre for being a distant presence in the Jets locker room -- and now, Jared Allen just wants the Vikes to move forward:
"If we get Brett, then that's a bonus," the All-Pro defensive end said in a phone interview. "But let's either get it done and get moving on with it or let it go.
"It's not so much that it's a distraction because we're professionals and don't really buy into that. But it's annoying."
"Let's either get it done and get moving on with it or let it go." Ha! That's a good one, Jared. Give it another week or so and his wish might be granted, but he ought to realize that, when you're dealing with Favre, 'getting it done' a moment before the last possible second just ain't gonna happen. It's Brett Favre 101.
But his comments do raise that uncomfortable issue once again of how the locker room reacts when Favre is brought into the mix -- something Edwards has already not-so-subtly alluded to. It's an issue worth paying attention to simply based on some news stories that came out after the Jets capped off their season last year:
A Jets player told Newsday Favre was "distant" and created animosity among his teammates over his failure to create good relationships in the locker room."
There was a lot of resentment in the room about him," said the Jets player, whose identity Newsday kept private.
Worst case scenario is that the frustration of Allen, Edwards, and other players (who just haven't said so publicly) will carry over to training camp and beyond when the man who kept the team in limbo throughout a tumultuous offseason creates a similarly wild environment in Mankato and Winter Park. Things might be "annoying" at the moment for Allen, but he'll have to live with much worse -- at least, while the initial media circus is unfolding.
We'll just have to see what happens, as these next weeks could be some of the more eventful ones we've ever experienced as Vikings fans. Fears that we might see "resentment" from the locker room toward Favre might very well be overblown, but it's also a possibility that probably shouldn't be ruled out, either.
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I sure hope so. Didn’t overpay for tickets for nothing! It will be a great matchup on Monday Night Football.
by suitup17 on Jul 19, 2009 1:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You did
If Favre is our QB 9-7 is the best we will be and out of the Playoffs. By the way does anybody else think Green Bay may have a pretty good idea how to get to Favre since he was there for so long, or is it just me who thinks that knowledge may outweigh his desire to stick it to them. Remember also what tends to happen to his passes when he tries to do to much on his own.
by bleedingpurplesince74 on Jul 20, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldnt be suprised and if the Jets story is true, Im not suprised
"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk"
by VikesFaninNM on Jul 18, 2009 1:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
there are also "Jets stories" coming from the other side too, you know
For example, Nick Mangold (their center, and one of their best players) publicly refuted this claim:
Mangold took issue with the perception that Favre caused any dissension. “We had a good joking and playful banter, but at the same time, he’s 39 and I’m 24 , and I’m not expecting him to come over and get a game of Halo in right after practice,” Mangold said, referencing the video-game series.
“So I knew that there’s a difference there. This isn’t a guy I came in with like Brick , where we were in the Senior Bowl, the Combine and get drafted together by the same team. I expect different things from Brick than I would with Brett coming in. It’s age, experience and all those things, not locker room discord.”
As for the charge the anonymous player made about Favre not going to dinner with teammates, Mangold didn’t have a problem with that, either. “The reality is he was just going home to be with his kids,” he said. “There’s a huge difference with that .”
One should never forget that the criticisms could be coming from someone not less mature and more self-centered than this guy (“What?” you say, some NFL players are immature and self-centered?)
by puddnhead on Jul 19, 2009 7:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 for Jared.
“…it’s annoying.” Couldn’t have said it better.
Dear Daily Norseman – Do we really need an update every time somebody sneezes and it sounds like Favre? It is bad enough the national media has and continues the barrage of non news. I would rather hear about Chris Kluwe’s WoW character than this garbage.
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by aceinthecorner on Jul 18, 2009 2:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
then dont read
I personally want to hear what our Vikings have to say, even BF. I’m just saying.
by koooolaid1087 on Jul 18, 2009 3:41 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Lets get it done already. I think waiting until the day before training camp is a bad move for the locker room, and a bad move for public relations.
by chaosg on Jul 18, 2009 4:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
BF was distant in NY
cause he really didn’t want to be there. He knew his only way to move on to the Vikings was to get released. Personally, I don’t think his arm is as bad as he makes it out. It was a good way to get released, knew a minor surgery would fix it and wait long enough to avoid OTA’s and mini camps. He can now wait til just before camp with the “I wanted to be sure everything is fine excuse”.
He’s fine or he wouldn’t be chucking balls every day in Mississippi.
by CitrusFLViking on Jul 18, 2009 9:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And...
If the reports are correct, chucking them pretty damn well…
by purplegrey on Jul 18, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To high school and junior college receivers
No difference in speed at the pro level I guess. Give me a break.
by bleedingpurplesince74 on Jul 20, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A Break?
Have you watched the videos of his workouts? It’s obvious he was taking a lot off the ball when throwing especially on the deep routes. His short passes showed more zip and the “high school and junior college receivers” couldn’t handle them. He’s been doing this same kind of workout for years and suddenly it’s a big deal that he’s throwing to these guys?
by purplegrey on Jul 20, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the first year...
He’s coming back from surgery on his throwing shoulder. So yeah, a little more more would be nice.
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by Manimal on Jul 20, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can’t blame the guy for being cautious after having surgery for the first time. He wants to make sure his arm is ready before he makes a commitment. He doesn’t want this thing to backfire anymore than anyone else does (okay, maybe a few Packer fans or Bears fans or …) I don’t think he’ll have any trouble throwing to the Vikes receivers.
by purplegrey on Jul 20, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just saying...
That it’s a different situation. If he’s serious about this, I want to see him go the extra few hundred feet; not even the extra mile, just a little something else.
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by Manimal on Jul 20, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I See Your Point...
and I feel he’ll be ready when he commits.
by purplegrey on Jul 20, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOW
Now not only do you think he is the greatest QB ever but He is also the smartest man to walk the earth. He alienated he teammates and blew the Jets season just to get to the vikings.
by bleedingpurplesince74 on Jul 20, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dang Right It's Annoying
And one of the big reasons I don’t want Favre. Forget that he was a Packer – I don’t care about that so much. He’s 40. Statistically, he’s not much better than TJ or Sage over the last 3 years. You get an interview with arguably the best DE in the league, and he’s asked about Favre. You get an interview with the one and only Jerry Rice (STrib), and he’s asked about Favre. You get time to talk to the best running back in football (that’d be Adrian), and he’s asked about Favre.
Every f’ng thing is about this one guy, not the team. Let’s face it, there are a lot of egos in the NFL – there have to be if you play at that level – and if the only thing that matters is Brett Favre, not only is it annoying, it’s disruptive to the concept of being on a team.
by JasonAve6413 on Jul 18, 2009 9:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dang right it's annoying~
I am completely in agreement with everything you pointed out.
Well put.
by Hokahey on Jul 19, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
favre too old?
i’ve been watching many people say that favre is too old to qb anymore. all i can say is GEORGE BLANDA! i still remember watching him pull games out of the hat, for the raiders, when he was 47 YEARS OLD. does anybody else remember watching that? it was fun to watch. i’m not saying brett will go 7 years for us – but 1 or 2 more years is definitely a possibility.
by kagey on Jul 20, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
George Blanda
I remember him well. How many times did he come into a game and save it for the Raiders by kicking a winning field goal or leading them down the gridiron to victory on his arm? Sports Illustrated even did a cover story on his exploits in the early 70’s.
by purplegrey on Jul 20, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ur right
“If we get Brett, then that’s a bonus,” the All-Pro defensive end said in a phone interview. "But let’s either get it done and get moving on with it or let it go.
“It’s not so much that it’s a distraction because we’re professionals and don’t really buy into that. But it’s annoying.”
the vikes should just be thinking of getting ready for the season all these distractions keeps a team out of contention
by Striker0418 on Jul 18, 2009 11:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Miami’s a .500 team next year……at best.
by dsludo on Jul 18, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jared is certainly ready to get on the field
As are all of the guys. I’m sure they are all getting that anxious and anxiety a couple weeks before training camp. Once they’re all togeather in camp, and all focusing on the game plan and not out with your pappa drinking a cold one and talking politics. I think we have enough veterans who’ve had success to worry about it.
P.S.Of course, when I say drinking a cold one, in Allens case I mean a coke.
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by PurpleJesuZ on Jul 18, 2009 11:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
High School Practice?
If Farve is such a great QB,. how come he is practicing with high school players?
by BigSkyViking on Jul 19, 2009 1:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
BRETT FAVRE PRESS RELEASE
Here’s something I thought you might like to take a look at.
by FOOTBALL MAN on Jul 19, 2009 2:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Today's the big day!?!
Well in terms of it’s Sunday. Despite how annoying it is to Jared Allen, and I would also agree that it is annoying, if history shows us anything is that Favre rumors usually are born on Sundays. Usually they rear their ugly heads around afternoon/evening hours. I wonder what it will be this time……This is also the Sunday the day before single game tickets go on sale so this also isn’t your typical Sunday. Hmmmmm, guess we’ll find out in a few hours.
by dsludo on Jul 19, 2009 8:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good point.
At this point, though, I wonder what rumors could even be left — we know a deal is essentially in place, we know that Favre’s arm is improving and has yet to experience any setbacks, and we know he’s intensified his practice schedule. We might actually be out of conceivable rumors at this point, aside from his ultimate decision of whether or not to play for the Vikings.
If the team was smart, though, they’d cook something up to generate some buzz for tomorrow’s papers. All news stories tomorrow would need to mention the fact that tickets are going on sale.
by Anthony21 on Jul 19, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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I really dont expect him to sign on exactly July 30th. Im thinking its got to be sometime this coming week of the 20’s..its just got to be
by clones21 on Jul 19, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I think too.
We’ll know by this time next week. The 24th-26th
by chaosg on Jul 19, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the Favre news for Sunday
It’s weak, but as expected the news is finally here.
I assume now we’ll hear this on sportscenter come Monday and maybe drag it into Tuesday but I doubt it. More news and updates to follow come Wednesday.
Anthony I think you’re right the rumors are just about done with. The news we’ll have now other than the final decision is quotes and speculation.
by dsludo on Jul 19, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is the hurry, he knows this offense good enough to teach it.
by multi-lakes on Jul 19, 2009 3:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
August 15th, “Well Brett Farve has yet to sign and was given two more weeks to come up with a plan.” Chilly, extended the decision time, taking into effect that Brett wanted just a little more time to think about it.
August 28th, see above.
Sept. 9th, Brett Favre who was reportedly going to attend either a game or a practice session was injured in a freak accident when the entire Minnesota Football team accidentaly fell on top of him. He’ll be out for the season. Chilly is upset.
by Hokahey on Jul 19, 2009 7:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i know you're just trying to be funny, but ...
favre gave a deadline of hte 30th, and there is pretty much zero chance he will not follow through on that.
by puddnhead on Jul 19, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Based on what, exactly?
He was also going to retire and be done with football…twice.
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by Manimal on Jul 20, 2009 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually really only once, IMO
The retirement this year IMO was more of a “if I have to play another year for the Jets, then I don’t want to play”
shouldn’t be hard for anyone who’s "been around’ to understand. There are employers you truly love working for, and others you would turn in your resignation to 30 seconds after you get another offer.
by puddnhead on Jul 20, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't understand your answer.
What makes you think he’s not going to hedge on the July 30th deadline he set for himself? He’s notorious for flip flopping.
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by Manimal on Jul 20, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He retired this year because he didn't want to play for the Jets; retirement was preferable to that.
I’m not sure why you didn’t understand it the first time I said it, but there I paraphrased it slightly different for you, hopefully you get it this time. If not, let me embellish as well:
He never wanted to play for the Jets. When they called last July/August, he didn’t even return their calls. He told Bus Cook not to return their calls. Then after last season, he even gave an interview in February at Disneyworld where he said he even briefly considered staying retired after he heard the Packers traded him to Jets (without consulting him). He really expected to go to Tampa.
I’m not making any of that up.
by puddnhead on Jul 20, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, yeah, I get it now.
I was a little baffled by this statement:
shouldn’t be hard for anyone who’s "been around’ to understand. There are employers you truly love working for, and others you would turn in your resignation to 30 seconds after you get another offer.
I wasn’t talking about that kind of stuff at all; I was alluding to the fact you think he won’t hedge on his self-imposed July 30 deadline when he is notorious for flip-flopping. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if July 30 comes and goes with no announcement. That’s all I was saying. Nothing about the Jets.
Also: I wasn’t trying to be sarcastic or degrading in my comment; I simply didn’t understand where that part of your answer came from.
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by Manimal on Jul 20, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I still disagree
There seems to be this urban legend that Favre is a “media diva” who loves attention. That he “flip flops” just so he can stay in the news. I don’t buy it.
Here’s the way I see it:
1. Favre never talked publically about playing for vikes this year until he went on joe buck’s show (something he’d agreed to do months before), evn though it’d been leaked by “viking sources” many times over, he stayed completely silent.
2. he even hid for a couple weeks that he’d had surgery. and it was only in the last week or two that he was already consulting with Sugarman about it
3. He’s tired of the constant “is it gonna be tomorrow” speculation, so he finally made an announcment that he hoped would do a little at least to quiet things down: he said he’d have a decision by what would realisticlally be the last possible time he could decide. Not because he’s even planning to wait that long, but because he wants to buy some breathing space from the media. He will announce before then IMO — this weekend at the latest.
That’s the way I see it. If you don’t, that’s OK. We just have to agree to disagree what favre is about, I guess.
by puddnhead on Jul 20, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
after the 04 season, favre talked about retiring. he didn’t retire. he also didn’t tell the packers he was going to play the next season. basically the packers had to wait for favre to decide he actually wanted to play, which he did.
after the 05 season, favre talked about retiring. he didn’t retire. he also didn’t tell the packers he was going to play the next season. basically the packers had to wait for favre to decide he actually wanted to play, which he did.
after the 06 season, favre talked about retiring. he didn’t retire. he also didn’t tell the packers he was going to play the next season. basically the packers had to wait for favre to decide he actually wanted to play, which he did.
after the 07 season, favre talked about retiring. he actually did retire. then he told the packers he had decided that he actually wanted to play. the packers decided they didn’t want him to play for them and sent him to the jets.
after the 08 season, favre talked about retiring. he actually did retire. again. then he told the jets he wanted his release. then he told the vikings he actually wanted to play again if his injury was 100% healed which we are still waiting to find out.
so, to sum up. when favre says he’s going to have a decision about playing by july 30, i’m sceptical.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 20, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's nice, but
None of those are examples of announcing a deadline for an announcement and then not sticking to it.
by puddnhead on Jul 20, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was no chance this weekend
He would not want to compete with the British Open and Cronkrites death. If we are lucky more famous people will die every few days until the start of the season and he won’t announce at all because he won’t share the spotlight with anyone. And I mean anyone including A.D., the defense or receivers. 8-8 with Favre 9-7 at the most.
by bleedingpurplesince74 on Jul 20, 2009 12:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
like another poster here
You seem only interested in posting the exact same opinion over and over again in each fanpost. I count four posts in the last few minutes in this thread alone, all saying the same thing, many of them non-sequitors (not even referencing what you were ostensibly replying to).
Please stop. We get it. We got it four posts ago.
by puddnhead on Jul 20, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if all those posts are about the same things what’s wrong with that? isn’t that what they’re hear for?
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 20, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No you do not get it
Thats the point, all of you “Favre is our savior types” don’t get it. He is a Herschel Walker type of mistake although it is for only one season, it is still that bad of a decision to bring him here. He is a poison pill, He is stick a fork in him done done. This could be a great season if this team jells and the Williams wall is able to play. He will not only disrupt the offense but will alienate the defense as well. The damage he will do this season will linger with the players for more than just this year it will adversely affect the next as well by deviding the lockerroom and the coaching staff. I can not wait to see who flip flops and call for his head half way through the season.
by bleedingpurplesince74 on Jul 20, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or next offseason when we have to go through all this crap again
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 20, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
You’re right, I don’t get it. “Herschel Walker category of mistake” Really, dude? We’re not even trading a player or draft choice to get Favre! Wowsa.
by puddnhead on Jul 20, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
winfield, taylor, and jackson are in the last years of their contracts. if we didn’t have to worry about favre signing, we’d have resigned one of these guys at least.
i see this as a horrible mistake for the vikings.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 20, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You got me on one thing
The Favre thing definitely is gettign in the way of the Vikings giving TJack millions and millions of dollars with a nice fat long term contract.
Regarding those other two, you’re not making any sense, it’s not an either/or. Vikings can sign Favre and give them a new contract.
Next thing I know I’ll hear you saying electricity used for media updates on “Favrapalooza” is a main cause of global warming.
by puddnhead on Jul 20, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can be ridiculous if you’d like but the facts remain that the vikings only have 17mil in cap space. if favre takes 10 of that, and their rookies take 5 of it, that leaves 2mil this year to sign winfield, taylor and tjack.
since next year is a potenially an uncapped year, all teams must pay the majority of signing bonuses before the uncapped year. also, they can’t backload the contracts because base pay can only increase 30% in an uncapped year.
i don’t mind debating with you but please, if you would, justify your position with something solid and contcrete. backing favre is all fine and good if that’s what you want to do but absurd comments do nothing to help your position.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 21, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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