BRETT FAVRE CAN LEAD THE VIKINGS TO THE SUPER BOWL
by FOOTBALL MAN on Jul 19, 2009 3:06 AM CDT
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Brett Favre should play in the NFL this year.
Brett Favre almost got the Jets into the playoffs, he had the team at 8-3 and looking like super bowl contenders. If his arm was 100 percent in the last 5 games I believe the Jets would have made the playoffs. If Favre signs with the Vikings all of the pressure would not be on him, because the Vikings have a great running back, good wide recievers, a good offensive line and a solid defensive unit. I recently read a Press Release that pointed these things out and more. I believe Brett Favre would be perfect for the Vikings.
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Strong supporter but....
I am a strong supporter of making this move however not so thrilled about a one year deal. I believe we should make him sign for two and use the second year as a transition year to whomever (Booty, TJack or heck draft Tebow next year as he will be late first round!)
Anyway, with regards to Brett, there is no doubt his arm got injured at some point last year. People argue he is top 5, not top 5, whatever…. All I know is if you remove the last 5 games of last year where WE KNOW he was injured, the man is 21-6 over the last two years (13-3 and 8-3). Yes, 21-6, with what amounts to MEDIOCRE teams! That is a .750 winning percentage with weak teams! …. Oh and yes, I said mediocre…. GB went 6-10 after he left and the Jets were well under .500 before he took over.
I think we all know this is going to happen. Brett wouldn’t have had the surgery and wouldn’t be working so hard each day if it weren’t. I just hope he learned from the Jets experience and finds a way to be closer with the team this year and doesn’t separate himself and create hard feelings.
I also believe the Vikes are letting him take his time and not sign because there is no risk that he is going to sign eleswhere. Heck, it essentially increases their roster size by 1 over every other team as they know he is committed to them and as such they can continue to keep a full roster and evaluate Booty, TJack and Rosenfels longer so that they make the right decision on who to let go once Brett signs.
Bottom line, I really think we can be 12-4 or 13-3 with him, which is only a 2 or 3 game improvement . Not asking for much when you look at how many games we lost late in the 4th quarter last year. Oh, and this years schedule is much easier than last year so I truly believe this is possible!
by PurpleJesus on Jul 19, 2009 7:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
1 year deal is better for both sides. Just in case things don’t work out. If Favre wants to play again, and the Vikings want him back, then I’m sure they’ll agree to similar terms than this year’s deal. I don’t think that will be an issue at all.
by dsludo on Jul 19, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure...
Look ahead 6 months…. Vikes win division, win a bye, win one playoff game and lose in NFC Championship with Brett. Now what? Does Brett come back? Does he feel he proved what he wanted to? Do we go through all this mess again?….I still would like to see the Vikes have the option for the second year. Doesn’t mean Brett would honor it anyway but still would like them to make him commit.
by PurpleJesus on Jul 19, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree with
A lot of what you say but not that the Packers and Jets were mediocore teams. We went 6-10 because we had 5 starters get injured and each miss at least 5 games. In 07’ none of those same starters were injured, and our defense was 11th in total defense and 6th in scoring. Had Rodgers had that same defense, we probably would have had somewhere between 10-12 wins. The Jets brought in two all pro o-lineman in the offseason, signed Jenkins, and Pace at LB. They made many other improvements besides just Favre, and all those other moves without a doubt played a part in their improvement.
by packallday555 on Jul 19, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually Rodgers needs to learn how to be a 4th qtr qb before you hit the 10 win mark. How many games last year did he choke in winnable situations?
by dsludo on Jul 19, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
“How many games last year did he choke in winnable situations?”
I would say he choked in 1 game, which was a WINNABLE SITUATION, and that was against Atlanta. He didn’t choke at the end, but he did throw a pick earlier in the game that pretty much cost us the game. There were many other close games that we lost, but I wouldn’t blame any of them on Rodgers. He actually led us on drives to tie or win the game against you guys and the Bears, but our Crosby missed both field goals.
There were other games where he we got the ball back after our defense gave up the lead but I wouldn’t really consider any of them “winnable”. He had an opportunity against the Jags, but the situation was not a good one too say the least. We were down 4, had the ball on our own 16, with 1 timeout left, and 1:06 left in the game. I wouldn’t consider that a “winnable” situation. Against the Titans he actually led us down to the Titans 32, and then one of our o-lineman got a holding call, and we had to punt after that. Then our defense gave up a field goal in OT. Against the Texans, he led us down to the Texans 22 yard line, and then one of our o-lineman got a holding call on 2nd and 3, and we ended up having to punt. The game was tied at this point, and we downed the punt at the Texans 3 yard line. Our defense then managed to let them drive down to our 22 yard line and give up a game winning field goal in just 1:45!! Yes, he didn’t get us the score but a lot of that had to do with the penalty. The next best thing that he could have done, was take us on a drive which burns a lot of time (which he did, our drive started at 5:37, and punted with 2:00 left), and hope to pin them as deep as possible ( which we did).
I know blaming it on the defense seems like a cop out, but if you look at our games, they really were at fault for at least 8 of our losses. You can’t honestly tell me if our defense performed at the same level last year as they did in 08’, that we wouldn’t have had more then 10 wins.
by packallday555 on Jul 20, 2009 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot one game
Against the Panthers. He led us on a 10 minute drive to take a 3 point lead. The Panthers got the ball back, and it took them just 15 seconds, and 2 plays to score a touchdown on our defense. Rodgers then got the ball back with 1:06 left, 1 TO, and the ball on our own 17. Asking him to score a TD in that situation really isn’t at realistic one, at least I don’t think.
by packallday555 on Jul 20, 2009 1:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t feel like the Lone Ranger, packallday! Our special teams accounted for at least two of our losses last year too, and you can bet we’re praying that a healthy Heath Farwell puts an end to that crap :)
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Jul 20, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rodgers did not score enough points in 2008!
Kurt Warner on the other hand did!
by REVENGE4FAVRE on Jul 20, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
See it’s comments like that, that cause people to have a problem with you.
by packallday555 on Jul 21, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rodgers looks like the real deal
You can understand why they wanted to dump Favre, and sign him to a long term deal. That was something that Andrew Brandt was saying last year, in his blog at NFP, that the pack had good reason to want to get him out there playing so they could sign the long term deal.
It’s sad that meant they had to repudiate one of the biggest legends of their franchise/of the modern game to get it done, but … if there ever was a doubt that football is a business, even for little “copmmunity owned” Green Bay, what went down last Summer on the Bay erased it. My god, the Pack even hired Ari Fleischer (Bush’s press secretary) to spin it.
by puddnhead on Jul 20, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please
Some of the Vikings fans are so delusional about Favre it’s painfully hilarious! He tears up bad defenses but every year in the playoffs he throws the game losing interception because he can’t handle a good defense anymore..
2002 – 6 Ints to the Rams in a playoff game
2003 – Threw up an INT to Brian Dawkins in the divisional playoff game to end the game
2005 – 4 INTs (Im sure you all remember that one) in the divisional against the vikes
2007 – Threw an INT to Corey Webster in the CG
And you guys think he’s a lock to lead the vikes into the SB? Come on! And he’s been on good teams in the past
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Jul 19, 2009 10:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
3-7 since the SB in '98
and he’s now 40
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Jul 19, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s an upgrade from what we currently have. And what we have is a playoff team with the #1 back in the league with a good O and D lines. Already a playoff team. Upgrading qb from top 30 to top 10. (Right there where McNabb is.)
by dsludo on Jul 19, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brett Favre is nowhere near mcnabb
And I’m a big McNabb criticizer at times… He’s a top 20 qb right now at best
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Jul 19, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
McNabb isn’t even that great. I remember 1-2 years ago half of Philly wanted him gone. WR’s suck too. Eagles are overrated.
by dsludo on Jul 19, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey pal
On NFL network there’s a game I want you to watch.. It was in the playoffs versus a team who wears purple.. Check it out @ 8 pm!!!
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Jul 19, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The past is over. Hop in Doc Brown’s DeLorean and you can see Bret Favre plucking the Eagles apart like a Thanksgiving overroasted turkey on the way to the Super Bowl in Miami. If you are not a personal friend of Doc Brown, I’m very sorry you’ll have to wait, but I guess you won’t like watching it anyway.
by Elgar on Jul 19, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL...
Man we outplayed you the whole game except for that one play to Westbrook. If we only had a QB who could give any feeling he was a weapon your teams head would have spun!
Interception TD by TJack-gift! Again, give us a QB who is Favre’s caliper and we will see…
by PurpleJesus on Jul 19, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you talking about this game??
Yes and that’s why a lot of us want Favre.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4UvKrdafqY&feature=channel_page
by dsludo on Jul 19, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
please
favre has more clips like that than games tjack has played in his whole life. and that includes the playground.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 20, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TJack
Doesn’t ahve the intelligence at the line to improve. Great arm. Great movement in the pocket. No rocks upstairs… That is the major difference.
And Favre won’t need to force so much with the Vikes as he has with some of those teams in the past. Just throw enough to keep 7 in the box. That doesn’t happen with TJack. Not even close…
by PurpleJesus on Jul 20, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he’s a d2 qb who was thrown to the wolves his second year. you’re right he must suck. even though he has improved every year.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 21, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hate to nitpick...
But he was a Bowl Subdivision Quarterback (I think that’s what they call it now), formerly I-AA. Unless I’m wildy mistaken, which is completely possible.
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Skol Vikings!
Woot Woot!
by Manimal on Jul 21, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m old. that is what they used to call division 2.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 21, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, thats ok
Cause the “real” division 2 champs, the University of Minnesota-Duluth Bulldogs are pretty good
Had to say it, HOLLA for the D-Town
I know it has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with what you were saying…
by Vikingsfan17 on Jul 21, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take your opportunities where you can!
Visit:
http://www.vikingvigil.com
Skol Vikings!
Woot Woot!
by Manimal on Jul 21, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way
You can say the Eagles are overrated, and that McNabb isn’t even that great. Their defense is so good, and while they lost Dawkins they added Ellis Hobbs from the Pats, who rejoins Samuel. They easily have the best secondary in the league, and are solid against the run. McNabb shredded your pass defense for 300 yards, and really the only good wr they have is Jackson. If you look at all the elite QB’s, McNabb has had by FAR the worst receiving corps since he has been in the league. They just drafted Maclin, to compliment Jackson, and Westbrook will be back healthy. I would say there a preseason top 5 team, and probably a favorite to go to the SB.
by packallday555 on Jul 19, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ACTUALLY!!!
Last year the Eagles were my pick to represent the NFC in the SB. This year I still firmly believe they’ll win the NFC EAST, but with us getting Farve, The Panthers looking solid, I mean the bears look good. There’s some good contenders to represent the NFC
...add #4 to the mix and see what you get... Championship.
by Macdaddy4508 on Jul 19, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And
Improved their already very good o-line by adding Peters and Andrews.
by packallday555 on Jul 19, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Easy now...
70 yards of the “shredding” you describe was on one play with 6 minutes left in the game. Hardly a “shredding” as you call it….
Minnesota played a solid game. Just need a QB.
by PurpleJesus on Jul 19, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
230 yards passing yards
Is still very good. Yes, 70 of his 300 were on that play, but the bottom line is, it happened. The reason I used the word “shredding” was actually because that’s what one of your fellow Vikes fan referred to it as in another thread, and I agreed. You guys certainly did play a solid game, I never said you didn’t. You do need a QB, because against good teams Jackson is not going to get it done.
by packallday555 on Jul 20, 2009 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
QB Confusion
Our options at QB are pretty limited…. still. Rosey might work out, but I think that if T-Jack started this season, by the end of the year (if he stayed healthy), he’d be ready for the playoffs and do a credible if not great job. But we won’t likely find out about that, with Favre coming in. Everything’s all up in the air with the most important position on the team, something I still put at Childress’s feet.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Jul 20, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
school 'rithmatic ain't too good in philly i reckon
It’s actually 3-6. Part of his 12-10 overall record.
Not to mention, you act like having a playoff loss is a 100% bad thing. If you get in the playoffs and don’t win the superbowl, then you have exactly one playoff loss. So if even if you show me a QB that played the same stretch and went 3-1 or something, I’’d still take Favre, at least he got you to the playoffs in five years that the other guy didn’t even get that far.
For example, throw out the Colts’ one superbowl season in the Peyton Manning era, ahd Peyton is 3-8 in playoffs. So … is Peyton Manning dog meat too?
by puddnhead on Jul 19, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point on Manning reference......
this guy always gets mentioned as a top 3 Q.B. I think the biggest difference we will see with B.F. at the helm, will be the fact that we will have a “leader” at the Q.B. position that can actually read a defense, and call an audible when needed. To have a Q.B. that can take that extra defender out of the box could be huge for A.D. Skol Vikes!
by PurpleCrush on Jul 19, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're correct
Manning hasn’t been too stellar in the playoffs. However with all the sweet TDs that manning throws he doesn’t cancel them out with disgusting INTs like Favre. You guys might score more points but so will other teams as Favre will give them the opportunity to do so…You’ll see
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Jul 19, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you wholeheartedly
V-I-K-I-N-G-S! Skol Vikings, Let's Go!!
by TheViking83 on Jul 19, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Eagles fan, that is...
kinda hard to see who i was replying to
V-I-K-I-N-G-S! Skol Vikings, Let's Go!!
by TheViking83 on Jul 19, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please?... Come on!
The man has won a Super Bowl and has never had the running game and overall caliper of team the Vikes will offer him this year. He doesn’t have to carry the team like he has in all of those teams of the past.
He carved up Tennessee last year. What is their defense chopped liver? What about NE?
it is obvious your response is built on emotion and hatred for the man. I am surprised you choose to try and berate Favre skills when your team has a history similar to the one you described above.
People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones…
by PurpleJesus on Jul 19, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that td pass to Coles vs. Tennessee into tripple coverage was one of the best throws i’ve seen.
by dsludo on Jul 19, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Purple
I know that this is kind of an old thread esp now that Favre has decided to stay retired but Fare DIDN"T win that superbowl.Like I stated somewhere over here with R4F Favremay hve a ring but HE didn’ winit. Thathonor belongs to the DFence and Desond Howard for that win! Favre played better in the second Superbowl and they lost that 1.
by davis0169 on Jul 31, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
100% agree with joe_d
favre is so overrated and has been living off his rep and the media for the last 5 years if not longer.
i don’t want a qb who is 3-7 in playoffs games over the past 10 years
i don’t want a qb who has thrown 2 ot game losing ints in the past 5 playoffs (an nfl record)
i don’t want a qb who has thrown more ints than tds in the playoffs over the last 10 years
i don’t want a qb who is responsible for ending a 40 year home playoff win streak
i don’t want a qb who turns 40 this year
i don’t want a qb puts his team through this retirement crap every offseason for the past 5 years
this guy can’t lead us to a superbowl.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 20, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The choice
Is not between Favre and Manning. Last I checked, Peyton Manning is not available. The choices we actually have, and their TD:INT ratios, are:
Rosenfels- 30:29
TJack- 20:18
Favre- 464:310
Look, I’ve grown tired of all the opinions spouted from ignorance on the topic of Favre and interceptions. Favre’s TD:INT ratio is actually not anywhere near bad. Better than Tarkenton or Moon, or Culpepper, and the same as Cunningham’s. I just googled and found this:
Brady- 2.31
Young- 2.17
McNabb- 2.13
Manning- 1.99
Montana- 1.96
Gannon- 1.73
Brunell- 1.72
Marino- 1.67
Cunningham- 1.54
Favre- 1.54
Culpepper- 1.51
Green- 1.50
McNair- 1.47
Warner- 1.47
Staubach- 1.40
Kelly- 1.35
Esiason- 1.34
Elway- 1.33
Tarkenton- 1.29
Simms- 1.27
Moon- 1.25
Bledsoe- 1.22
Aikman- 1.17
Unitas- 1.15
Fouts- 1.05
Starr- 1.01
Bradshaw- 1.01
by puddnhead on Jul 19, 2009 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OK if you want to bust the stats out
2008 22:22
2007 28:15
2006 18:18
2005 20:29
88:84
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Jul 19, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One more thing
Stats can be misleading.. The fact is Favre’s INTs are unique because they usually costly.. He can dice up a crappy defense but never beats a good one. You guys should know you’ve watched him the past 16 years at least twice a year.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Jul 19, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No good defenses?
What was Tennessee’s defense last year when Favre cut them up like a Hibachi dinner preparation? How about NE’s?
Lose the hatred on Favre…. The man is a winner and went 21-6 in the last two years when you take out the 5 injured games. That’s .750 with teams that were at best mediocre without him.
Any QB who tries to force a game because they have little other weapons is going to throw interceptions. Seems I have seen McNabb do that quite a bit as well and I am not about to step out on a limb and say that man can’t win any more after all the losses in the playoffs.
by PurpleJesus on Jul 19, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PJ
McNabb doesn’t force balls at all…. You pulled that one out of your rear. And like I said, I hold many criticisms for McNabb.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Jul 19, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like those Eagle fans are getting nervous
Monitoring our site and everything….. Maybe you know I am right that …short of a INT TD that we gave you, and the fact our defense over pursued Westbrook on that screen, we outplayed you in that playoff game.
I am pretty sure I would love to play that game over again. I’ll even stick with TJack.
by PurpleJesus on Jul 19, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I just watched the Re-run on the NFL network and I was pretty surprised how bad we actually played.
Our biggest problem was our aging O-line was showing signs of how old it was. With the new young and improved line I think we would’ve had a much easier time winning. But no, the Vikes still don’t scare me that much
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Jul 19, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny
Keep assuming someone elses leftovers are worth what they once were. Good luck with that!
by PurpleJesus on Jul 19, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Difference is....
Our change to Favre will be a definite improvement… You are taking a linemen with horrbile worth ethic and allowed 9 sacks last year. Maybe he needs arm surgery too?
by PurpleJesus on Jul 19, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
someone elses leftovers?
Like the Jets and the Packers? lol!!! Purple Kool Aid you are the gift that keeps on giving!
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Jul 20, 2009 6:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on man...
Calling Favre a leftover? He asked out of both places. Otherwise he stays at both.
We will see how good your additions are. Peters isn’t worth the paper the contract was written on. How many sack he give up last year? Jared Allen will eat him up!
by PurpleJesus on Jul 20, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOLEAGLES
‘And the wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their terrible teeth and rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claws’.
by SippyCup on Jul 20, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm dissapointed
Not 1 of you guys brought up the “overtime” issue that a starter in the league for a decade didn’t know. I love Mcnabb but every QB forces at least 1 throw in there every game.
by davis0169 on Jul 30, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Done
I get it now…. troll….. I looked at your comment strings and you can’t stay away from the Giants site and ours. Interesting. I take that as a compliment!
Enjoy. Not feeding you any more.
by PurpleJesus on Jul 20, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
But you can’t look at those stats, as an indicator of how well he’ll play for you guys. Because he hasn’t been the same player he was once for probably the last 5-6 years. You have to look at his recent years, not his whole career. I think without a doubt Favre is an upgrade for you guys, I just don’t know if he’ll be able to get you 13-14 wins. Especially, with how difficult our division is going to be.
by packallday555 on Jul 19, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree somewhat...
He has been pretty darn good over the last two years. I look at that 21-6 (not counting the arm injury games) and say wow!
I am not sure anyone said 14 wins. I said 12-4 or 13-3 simply because we have improved as a team by diversifying and adding Percy Harvin, our schedule is easier and given the number of games we lost in the 4th qtr last year. You have to think Favre can pull one or two more wins over TJack, if not 3.
The division will be tougher I guess because of Cutler and because Detroit isn’t going 0-16 again. However, I am confused by your team. The switch to the 3-4 could be a boom or bust situation. You are going to let Adrian Peterson approach a line with only 3 guys on it? I don’t know…
As for Cutler and the Bears, I don’t think he is a winner. He gets hot headed whenever somthing doesn’t go his way and because of that I don’t see him as a leader. Definitely glad the Vikes didn’t mortgage the future on that guy.
All in all it will be a fun year. Far from the division that everyone used to laugh at….
by PurpleJesus on Jul 19, 2009 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
13-3, and 12-4?
You should change your name to purple_KoolAid :)
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Jul 19, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Things slow?
In Eagles land? Shouldn’t you worry more about the Giants and Dallas and less about us?
:-)
by PurpleJesus on Jul 19, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They were 10-6 last year
even though they played musicla chairs at QB and played (in theory) a harder schedule than what they have this year. And all their dvision rivals are in transition this year (bears to new QB, packers to 3-4, and Lions to … well, everything). Why is seeing two more wins as a possibility “drinking kool aid?”
by puddnhead on Jul 20, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
and then why do we need favre?
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 20, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We don't need Favre
to win the division or to make it to the playoffs. We don’t need Favre to win 2 more games than last year. You know, I have been pretty hard on the Vikings coaches and the management for mishandling the quarterback situation the last few years. I’ve also been pretty hard on the Favre supporters. After reading some of the comments in this post and sitting and thinking about that playoff loss last year, I have begun to realize that if Favre would have been the Vikings quarterback for that game and in good health, the Vikes would have defeated the Eagles. I feel very confident in thinking that. Now would they have even been in the playoffs? I can’t say. But that 1 game against the Eagles, we would have won with Favre instead of Jackson. Now does that change my mind on the Vikings signing Favre, I’m not ready to say that yet.
"Skol pa fiskande"
by NobleSavage on Jul 20, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tj threw a pick that (arguably, there were other factors) cost us the game. favre did the same thing in overtime in 07. he did the same thing in 03. he has a 3-7 record in the playoffs over the past 10 years. he has more ints than tds in the playoffs over the last 10 years. other than my first sentence, none of this is opinion. it is all fact. how can you say with confidence that he would have helped us win that game?
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 20, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We are still on the same page regarding the signing of Favre.
The Eagles came out in the second half of that game with one goal, to blitz Jackson and blitz him hard. The Viking coaches had a plan also, to simplify the passing attack so much that Jackson at times was only using half of the field. I feel that Favre would have been able to manage the blitz better than Jackson did.
"Skol pa fiskande"
by NobleSavage on Jul 20, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
Eagles have been destrying favre for the best 6 years… no way the outcome changes for the better
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Jul 20, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love it!
Love the way Favre fires up the competition! Just shows that they are irked that he wants to come to a team that is built to win.
by PurpleJesus on Jul 20, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love the way people keep saying 3-7 record
Favre’s 3-7 if you start counting from the Denver Superbowl loss. In other words, if you count entire years (like any reasonable person interested in presenting facts, not twisting them to their own purpose, would do), you either count starting from the beginning of posteason ‘97 and say it’s 5-7, or from ‘98 and say it’s 3-6, or you start counting from ‘97 and say it/’s 5-7. Or, even more coherent, recognizing Favre was out of playoffs ’90 and ’00, you count from ’01 on, which would make him 3-5. Or you use the next obvious dividing line, the two years out ’05 and ’06, and he is 1-1 “recently.”
But counting his “recent” playoff record from the middle of the ‘97 postseason, so as to not count the two wins that came the two weeks before in the count? COME ON, that’s just douchie
by puddnhead on Jul 20, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and yet none of those examples you gave translates into a winning record. so it’s kind of senseless to try to twist something like that to my own purposes.
call it what you will. start it when you will. it’s a losing playoff record.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 20, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre is 12-10 in the Playoffs for his career!
That is a winning record!
He will be 15-10 by the end of this year!
by REVENGE4FAVRE on Jul 20, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For once, I find myself with R4F here
Well, the 12-10 part at least :)
It’s the nature of the playoffs that, unless you win the superbowl, you automatically get one loss. And unless you are a wild card team that gets to the championship game, or a top 2 seed that gets to superbowl, it is mathematically impossible to have a winning playoff record that year. Do the math.
When you’re done doing that, please, tell me what other active QB who’s started > 4 playoff games that has a winning record, besides Tom Brady, Kurt Warner, and Brett Favre.
by puddnhead on Jul 20, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bart starr has a 9-1 carreer playoff record. there are a ton of qb’s with winning playoff records. we’re not getting a guy that can go 12-10 in playoffs. that was a long time ago. if you include any data from favre’s first 5-10 years you’re deluding yourself. that’s not the guy we’re getting.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 20, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
12-10.................
That is what you are getting.
You are a true Favre Hater!
by REVENGE4FAVRE on Jul 20, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bart Starr?
I wasn’t aware he was still an active QB in the NFL.
But OK, if you insist on ignoring my request for an active quarterback other than Brady or Warner (ie someone still playing), let me tell you that you don’t have to go back that far. I think Elway, Aikman, Montana, and Young probably also have winning playoff records.
But, again, so does Favre.
by puddnhead on Jul 20, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’d rather have them. they win.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 21, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
except when it matters most.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 21, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the superbowl...
Where he is .500
by Vikingsfan17 on Jul 21, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
which was 12 years ago. i’d take that favre! but not the 40 year old version.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 22, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you said you'd rather have them
cause they won, bringing back to what you said, it is kinda hypocritical
by Vikingsfan17 on Jul 22, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no. favre won. (past tense) they win (present tense)
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 22, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK then
Warner is about the same age as Favre…
And Favre has played on some very average teams lately…
by Vikingsfan17 on Jul 22, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and at this stage of their careers, warner is obviously better.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 22, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can’t be a good receiver if the ball goes to a guy on the other team
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 23, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Free agents are slightly unknown
and Warner had better receivers than Favre over the past 2 years, you cannot dispute that
by Vikingsfan17 on Jul 23, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and warner put up hella good numbers while favre tanked, you cannot dispute that.
and favres receivers weren’t that bad
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 23, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Our team in 07’ was no where near average. 2nd in total offense, and 11th in total defense. That is not an average team. The Jets weren’t average either, not after all the moves they made in the offseason before 08’.
by packallday555 on Jul 23, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is true. and he tanked at the end of both seasons.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 23, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There you are.
I’m BAAAAaaaaack! So how do you like your CROW? Fried? Baked? how about hot off the grill. So as I get home today from work, and log on to the net, I see tat a certain person is going to STAY RETIRE! I seem to remember someone stating how FAVRE was taking the Vikes to the promise land. Now who could that of been? HAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAA HAAAAAAA! So now are you a packer fan again? huh?
by davis0169 on Jul 28, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
go easy
he’s had enough trama today.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 28, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gotta have a little fun
Now the division is a coin flip. And NO one can dispute that! Gooooo LIONS! ROAR TILL YOUR THROUGHT IS SORE!
by davis0169 on Jul 28, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i will dispute that
favre or no favre there is no real competition for the vikings to win the division this year.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 28, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Like the Bears who finished 1 game behind you, split last season’s series with you, and made far more improvements then you?
Or our team who split last season’s series with you, gets 5 defensive starters back, and probably will have at least a top 6 or 7 offense?
by packallday555 on Jul 29, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget you took
The top D-tackle in the draft, A top notch LB’r. And that was the Pack’s main problem the last few years. Average too poor run D-fence.It looks like they addressed their biggest weekness.
by davis0169 on Jul 29, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
We adresseed both our needs to in the draft this year. Our run defense, and lack of pass rush. I think Raji is going to be a stud, there have been reports that he will play DT and DE, because of his athleticism. (keep in mind he is 338 lbs.) We needed another pass rusher on the other side of the 3-4 and that’s exactly what Matthews is.
by packallday555 on Jul 30, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could a 340 pounder really be effective at the DE position? I’m not trying to be an ass, i’m just curious….that would be pretty impressive if he could
by Loki The Viking God on Jul 30, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Loki
This is in response to you. For some reason it wouldn’t let me reply under your comment.
I think in the 3-4 he could be. The ideal ends in the 3-4 are somewhere around 6-3 and 300-310 lbs. MM has said he is very “quick and nimble” for his size. Obviously he won’t play end when we’re in the 4-3, but so far it looks like he will be rotating between positions in the 3-4. With Jenkins (310 lbs.), Pickett (340 lbs.), and Raji (338 lbs.), we could be a lot more stout against the run.
by packallday555 on Jul 30, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blinders and Kool-aid
That’ a deadly combination there. Bears fans are giddy because they filled a glairing hole at the QB position, GB filled alot of holes by drafting Raji, And for all the smack you guys talk about my lions you barely beet us both games last yer and we definitly got better on the whole.
by davis0169 on Jul 30, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
packallday555
This is in response to you. Because it wouldn’t let me reply under you either haha.
Wow…thats quite a bit of weight you’ll have up front….i agree you should be able to stomp the run…I don’t know if sullivan will be able to hold back that much weight.
by Loki The Viking God on Jul 31, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Then you don’t know much about football.
by packallday555 on Jul 31, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My last response was to isee BTW
by packallday555 on Jul 31, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe, maybe not. doesn’t change the fact that the vikings are the class of the division, if not the conference.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 31, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m just cheerleading my team here btw.
skol vikings!
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 31, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isee
I am not so sure that the Vike are the class of the division. I woud say that (unfortunately) thePacker have been the class of the div. They have more championships than the Vikes and have been winners since the dawn of time as we know it. I know that the Vikes havn’t been around as long but the trophy that all teams are trying to get there hands n is named after oe of their coaches. I mean we are not playing for the “purple people eaters trophy”.
by davis0169 on Jul 31, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree on one thing
It was senseless that you did that. Since you do not refute it, I take that as admission you did. So … why did you do it?
by puddnhead on Jul 20, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
take what you like. the facts twist themselves with no help from.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 20, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre has a winning record......
in the playoffs for his career.
12-10.
Soon to be 15-10!
by REVENGE4FAVRE on Jul 20, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what i'm asking is
why did you start counting from the middle of the 97 playoffs. You obviously conciously chose to do that. I mean, I know the immediate goal: to give Favre the lowest winning playoff percentage over a stretch of time that you possibly could deliver.
But, why were you trying distort actual history like that? Was making your point stronger more important than making it honest?
by puddnhead on Jul 20, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because he’s old. we’re not getting the favre that won a superbowl. we’re not getting the favre that won 3 mvp’s. he’s done nothing in the past 5+ years except stink in the playoffs.
of course i obvious conciously chose to do that. there’s no distortion there. is he not 3-7 in his last 10 playoff games? how is that not honest? i didn’t make him lose those games. i wasn’t involved in any of the ints he’s thrown in the playoffs.
it looks bad because it is bad. refute it if you can.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 21, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
already did
OK, I’m done trying to get you to admit you twisted statistics to exagerate the true strentgth of your point.
If you want to keep pretending that counting a game lost 11 years & 6 months ago is part of his “recent” record, but games won 11 years 6 months 1 week ago and 11 years 6 months 2 weeks ago are not ‘recent" it’s you that looks silly, not me
As I pointed out before, more reasonable numbers to throw around are either 3-5, or 1-1 or 12-10. By people looking for truth and not trying to push preconceived agendas, that is.
by puddnhead on Jul 21, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
really? you’re quibbling over 3-5 vs 3-7?
i’m done throwing fact after fact at at you while you give me nothing concrete. if you want to pretend that favre can still play like he’s 28 it’s not really me who looks silly.
i keep reading back through your posts and see nothing but conjecture, opinion, and bashing on my position. and you want to focus on 3-5 vs 3-7. either way it stinks!
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 21, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Try this one on then
Ok isee, so if you dont want a QB (using your weird twisted stats) that is 3-7 in the playoffs to lead our team this year then I guess you saying you would rather have TJack who is 0-1 or Sage who has never been to the playoffs to lead our team? I will take a guy who has been there before (several times might i add) and had SOME success over a guy who has had ZERO success and a guy who has never been there before.
by Ron H on Jul 24, 2009 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes i would
absolutely! gimme tjack this year. i’d rather have him over favre. at this point in their careers, tj is only going to get better while favre is only going to get worse.
if you’d dismiss a qb who loses their first playoff game, you’d have to dismiss a lot of current and future hall of fame qbs.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 24, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be nice
to not lose playoff games by 2+ scores
by puddnhead on Jul 20, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But
“..played (in theory) a harder schedule than what they have this year.”
In theory yes, but you don’t know that for sure. Every year their are teams who were mediocore at best the year before, and then vastly improve and become a lot better.
I don’t know if I would consider you guys thinking you could have two more wins, as “drinking the kool aid”, but I do think that will be difficult. You say the Bears got a new QB like it’s a bad thing. He is probably a top 10 QB in the league, maybe top 11-12, and will improve their team. He is better then Orton is, and there really is no arguing that. Yes, we’re transitioning to the 3-4, but our offense more then likely will improve, and we won’t always be in the 3-4 defense. Also I think getting our defensive players back healthy will help a lot. The Lions probably improved the most (though they couldn’t really get any worse). The have a brand new defense, and it looks to be a respectable one. Just keep in mind you guys struggled against the Lions both games last year. Any team can beat any other team on any given day.
Am I saying it’s not possible for you guys to win 12 games? No, I think you possibly could. I just don’t think it’s very likely, because we will likely have the second best or best division in the league. You will play at least 6 tough games in division, and then have the Steelers, Giants, Ravens, Cardinals, and Panthers left.
by packallday555 on Jul 20, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I can't comment on things I don't "know for sure"
like whether this years schedule is easier than last year’s then … why are any of us even posting here.
Seriously, it’s consensus in everything I’ve read anyway that the schedule is friendlier for NFC North this year than last. Yes, I know there are always teasm that surpise, be it the 2008 Dolhins, or the ’99 Rams. But still, can we just accept that the schedule is easier as probable enough to base calculations on, and just move on?
by puddnhead on Jul 20, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely
It’s going to be a very fun year. I am also confused by the 3-4 switch, but we have to deal with it now. Yes, there are only 3 lineman but 4 LBs, so it’s ultimately the same amount of people in the box as a 4-3. The 3-4 is also a defense that is built to stop the run, and get pressure on the QB. I’m not saying we’ll be able to do those two things right away, but I don’t think we’ll be as bad as last year.
I just don’t know about at least 12-4. But we all have our different opinions!!!
by packallday555 on Jul 20, 2009 1:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
c'mon dude.
I dislike the Eagles as well, but seriously. This is just plain childish. You’re making this respectable blog into a joke, and I for one am very weary of this stale gag. Please give it up.
Purple is the new black.
by steezah on Jul 19, 2009 2:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That of course
is in reference to REVENGE
Purple is the new black.
by steezah on Jul 19, 2009 2:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+ alot
The Vikings=$600 Million
The Metrodome=$55 Million
Adrian Peterson=Priceless
by 4 AP Jerseys on Jul 20, 2009 3:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre would make the Vikings a legitimate Super Bowl contender. If his arm is 1005 he could possibly play 2-3 more years.
by multi-lakes on Jul 19, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I meant if his arm was at 100%. My bad.
by multi-lakes on Jul 19, 2009 3:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The more I watch game film from the last 4 games
The more I realize that Favre may be worth the trouble.
by Bjorno on Jul 19, 2009 9:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
While you're at it then, watch the Jets: 2nd Pats and Titans games from last year
And what the heck, the Cardinals game too. Not as impressive, but it makes up for it in fun. The man played almost error-free football — weird for Favre, you see him throwing it away over and over again — and in that Pats game (again, the 2nd one, the road game that went into OT), delivered for the team repeatedly.
If you want, watch some later games too, to see how the team implodes when he’s not carrying them anymore. Even the defense falls apart.
by puddnhead on Jul 19, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Impact of a Leader
And lack thereof. IF he still has what it takes, the Vikes will be awfully fierce this year :)
11 more days til Camp opens…
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Jul 20, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre is a leader?
His team mates hated him in NY
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Jul 20, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His teammates Loved him...................
Except for a couple of idiots…………………
Such as Thomas Jones that was nothing until Favre came there.
This year Thomas Jones is going to Suck!
by REVENGE4FAVRE on Jul 20, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thomas Jones
sucks he was a nobody before favre drew attention away from the running game and now he thinks he is good…PLEASE him and sanchez are going nowhere
sugar + water + purple
by Grape Drank on Jul 20, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leadership
A real leader doesn’t have to be loved, he doesn’t need to curry favor. But he will be respected and obeyed because he has the vision to lead the team to victory. We can argue the merits of Favre’s passing game, the condition of his arm, whether or not he’s grandstanding or, like Lance Armstrong, has a tough time surrendering to age and sickness. We can debate how we think he’ll perform and if he’ll be better or worse than QB X, Y, and Z in his ratings. You can even speculate about how other much other guys like him when they’re standing around in their tightie-whities (you freaks! LOL).
But one thing that no one can argue against is that Brett Favre is a leader on the field. That’s what 18 years of experience in the hot seat and an overall successful track record, buys you.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Jul 21, 2009 7:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
his recent track record sucks. how can you lump in any of the things he did in the 90’s. that favre is gone.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 21, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has a track record spanning 18 years of experience, that’s what I was referencing. Not what he did yesterday, or just last year. I’m talking about how experience impacts leadership, and why, regardless of the condition of his arm, he’s a leader on the field.
And I really don’t give a puck about the locker room. You don’t win games in a locker room, you win them on the football field.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Jul 21, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i understand your reference. my point is that his leadership and experience has not produced anything in the last few years. he may be a leader on the field but where has he led his teams?
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 21, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many
names has R4F created now? 2 alternate ones? haha anyway, if he joins and we beat the Steelers, then we are something to watch out for in the Playoffs, the rest of our schedule besides maybe the Ravens should be pretty easy.
by PurpleEaters on Jul 20, 2009 1:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Calm down buddy
no need to start a flame war…
2nd time ive posted about this today, we all need to clean up this site a little, we kinda sound pathetic arguing over R4F, he loves our team, enjoy it, i don’t think hating on somebody that is on our side is the way to go…
Back to the subject… the cardinals game(s) was one of my favorite moments of the 2008 season, both the jets and vikings games, they were fun to watch
by Vikingsfan17 on Jul 20, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I find the Farve discussion amazing and interesting
It’s defintely a topic that everyone seems to have a pretty strong opinion about. Isn’t it great that in a few short months we’ll all know who was right and who was wrong?
Unless, of course, we can’t agree on that either! LOL!!
Maybe we should do a poll on what would be a successful season for Brett versus what would be a failure? Any thoughts??
by Drullin'OverDaCards on Jul 20, 2009 2:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can tell you now
the signing of Favre to the Vikings will only be measured as a success in my opinion if we win the Super Bowl.
"Skol pa fiskande"
by NobleSavage on Jul 20, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could handle that.
"Skol pa fiskande"
by NobleSavage on Jul 20, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
yeah, one step at a time though…
but it is a long time coming
by Vikingsfan17 on Jul 20, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone has to ask it
So, has there never been a siging of any player in the history of the Minnesota Vikings that you would call a success? Since, well, you know …
You can’t set the bar so high that you are unreasonalble. You can’t say Obama’s campaign was a failure becuse there were over 40% of the people he didn’t get the votes of. And you can’t say in advance that Favre is not a success for the Vikings unless they win it all. Seriouisly dude, Favre alone won’t even have control of that; he could play fine & they still could lose.
by puddnhead on Jul 20, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guys I Put up a fan post for this topic
So let’s move the discussion there.
by Drullin'OverDaCards on Jul 20, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry, I thought you understood
my thoughts on Favre. In order for me to swallow my pride by cheering for Brett Favre, it would take a Super Bowl win for me to see it as a success.
"Skol pa fiskande"
by NobleSavage on Jul 20, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pride?
Why would you have to swallow your pride to root for Brett Favre? I had to swallow my pride by trying to root for useless T Jackson last season.
by multi-lakes on Jul 20, 2009 5:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If you have to ask that question
you do not share the same passion for the Vikings and the great rivalry with Green Bay.
"Skol pa fiskande"
by NobleSavage on Jul 21, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose you get mad whenever Longwell makes a field goal too?
by puddnhead on Jul 21, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
right, because longwell was the face of the packers for 15 years….
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 21, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and he was the one that had every Packer fan dreamin’ of the day they could suck his ****.
"Skol pa fiskande"
by NobleSavage on Jul 21, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You sir, just got flagged
That comment was seriously unnecessary
by PurplePeopleEaters09 on Jul 22, 2009 2:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, my first flag
I feel very noble right now.
"Skol pa fiskande"
by NobleSavage on Jul 22, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is another to add to your new collection
that was out of order dude
by Vikingsfan17 on Jul 22, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly what was out of order?
That I made a joke about the Packer fans’ weird man-love for Favre or that I replaced a word with 4 asterisks? Get real people.
"Skol pa fiskande"
by NobleSavage on Jul 22, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That wasn't very noble
‘And the wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their terrible teeth and rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claws’.
by SippyCup on Jul 22, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe not..
..but it sure was savage.
"Skol pa fiskande"
by NobleSavage on Jul 22, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Longwell is the #1 all time leading scorer in Packers history
That’s not exactly indicative of a “fleeting” connection, you know.
by puddnhead on Jul 21, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya but still
There is a huge difference between Favre and Longwell and you know it. I get the point your trying to make, and I agree with you but the situations are different. I guess I can understand why people don’t want him when it’s because of his actual play, but I can’t really understand when people don’t want him just because he was a Packer. He gives the team the best chance to win, and that’s ultimately what I want my team to do.
by packallday555 on Jul 22, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
when you think green bay packers you think….longwell??
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 22, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When I think about times the Packers have beat the Vikings in the past, I think about Longwell hitting last second go-ahead field goals to win the game.
by Loki The Viking God on Jul 22, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well of course you do. who doesn’t think of kickers first.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 22, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Even if that’s true, which some of me tends to doubt, there is still a big difference. Favre is a QB, and Longwell is a K. Not to discredit K’s or anything but there not nearly as important as the QB’s. Longwell was never the face of our franchise, and his play had been declining his last couple years with us, which is we let him go. Packers fans weren’t as upset about losing him as they were and are about losing Favre.
by packallday555 on Jul 23, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So let me get this straight...
Noble and Isee both think that any “impact” player that played for the Packers is not welcome as a Viking? That is just narrow minded thinking, especially for the NFL of today where players float around from team to team and nobody is safe from being traded. Does this same hatred of the good players for the Pack also carry over to all of our divisional foes? What if say Greg Olson (sorry couldnt think of any other players on the Bears roster I would want) wanted to come to our team? Or I guess Hester? What if Aaron Rodgers said he was tired of wearing the green and gold and wanted to go to the Vikes, then I guess we should just turn em away because if we rooted against them then we can’t have em on our team. Wow, if all Vikes fans were like this I would seriously have to consider rooting for another team. Thank god I can see some other inteligent people out here seeing that Favre is our best chance to win THIS YEAR!!!
by Ron H on Jul 24, 2009 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i stopped reading this after the first sentence
you didn’t follow this thread very carefully. i replied to this:
I suppose you get mad whenever Longwell makes a field goal too? by puddnhead on Jul 21, 2009 11:28 AM PDT
with the inferred point that longwell was in no way the face of the packers franchise for 16 years. people pay attention to skill position players and impact defensive players. the only times kickers get much attention is when they miss.
when most people think of the packers they think of favre as well, not longwell.
at no point did i ever say that any impact player from the pack is not welcome as a viking. i thought the sharper signing was a good move at the time and he was far more recognizable as packer than longwell ever was. i really don’t have any ‘hatred’ for any players regardless of what team they’re on. i don’t know any of them and they’ve never done anything to me or mine. i am of the opinion that favre is way overrated at this point in his career and the vikings would be better off without him.
hope this clears up the misconception.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 24, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not denying that there’s a difference between QB’s and K’s…i’m just saying, personally, when I think of times when we have lost to the Packers, I think of Longwell hitting a last second, game winning field goal. I’m not going to look up the stats, but I’m sure he did that to us a few times. And if memory serves, he did it to the Packers once as a Viking. I remember thinking how ironic it was and feeling that justice was served haha.
by Loki The Viking God on Jul 27, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
While he probably did kick some game-winners for us, the reason he had the opportunity to do so was because Favre led us down there. I know what your trying to say when you talk about Longwell. I just don’t think the situations compare at all.
by packallday555 on Jul 28, 2009 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOW I Never Said I Was Comparing QB's to K's
I just made a simple statement that, PERSONALLY, when I think of times we’ve lost to the Peckers…I have vivid memories of being distraught after seeing a last second field goal go through the uprights. That’s all I’m saying…I’m not making any comparisons between QB’s and K’s.
by Loki The Viking God on Jul 28, 2009 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Super Bowl
We haven’t been to the Super Bowl since the stone ages and people are unsure if they should root for Favre? What a joke!
by multi-lakes on Jul 20, 2009 5:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I do not think I ever read anyone say they would not root for Favre to succeed.
Is this a joke?
"Skol pa fiskande"
by NobleSavage on Jul 21, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then you haven't read as much as I have
There are actually posters who say their “worst nightmare” is the Vikings winning the Superbowl while Favre plays for them. Seriously.
by puddnhead on Jul 21, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've read similiar postings
I too have read some pretty stupid and ignorant comments on here puddn. I just dont understand what the big deal is. If we had other options then I would agree with most of these people, but the fact of the matter is that we have 3 options. 1) TJack (he sucks, period) 2) Sage (unknown, but looked decent in the games he’s played) or 3) Favre (old, but future HOF QB). I think I would go with option 3 with what the Vikes have for a team this year. I would agree with sticking with TJ or Sage if we were in a rebuilding mode, but we are built to win now. Not next year, or the year after, but NOW!!
by Ron H on Jul 24, 2009 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i disagree
i believe we are built to win now, and the next year, and the year after, and possible the next two years after that.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 24, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh..
You might be pushing it there. Williams and Winfield will both be gone soon, or probably not as effective. Those 2 are noth vital parts to your team, and it will be very difficult to replace them. The fact still remains even after Favre, you guys will be back to where you are now. Which is having 2 QB’s who haven’t proved themselves as solid starters in the NFL.
by packallday555 on Jul 28, 2009 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No I think I agree with Isee…all of our DB’s are now under long contracts and other than Winfield, they’re all pretty young…Pat Williams is getting old, but we can get a very good replacement for him in the first round of the draft next year, or the year after that. We also have Jared Allen for what, 7 years maybe? AD will be with us for awhile…our WR corps is young…Sage and TJack may be able to learn under the tutelage of Brett Favre for a year or two and then will be ready to lead the team just like Rodgers did.
by Loki The Viking God on Jul 28, 2009 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
additionally, athough the coaches have problems with game management, they are very good with personnel. i would call it their strongest suit so i see no reason why they wouldn’t continue to build talented teams year after year.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 28, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
“all of our DB’s are now under long contracts and other than Winfield, they’re all pretty young…”
Griffin is the next best cb and he average at best. McCauley is horrible. He used to be the starter when your passing defense was like last in the league. Sapp is a below average nickle back. I don’t know anything about Allen.
“Pat Williams is getting old, but we can get a very good replacement for him in the first round of the draft next year, or the year after that.”
Pat is a very, very dominate DT. The chances of you guys just drafting someone who is as effective as him are not very good. When he is gone, or not as effective it will be much easier on opposing teams o-linemen.
Your wr corps is young, but relatively unproven with the exception of Berrian. This year will probably be an indicator of what kind of player Rice will be for the rest of his career, and Wade is aging.
The bottom line remains the QB position is a big question mark. We all saw how Jackson performed against a top notch defense in the playoffs last year, and Sage to date has been a career backup. You guys need a lot of players to pan out in order for your team to be as good as it will be this year in years to come. I personally feel us and the Bears are built better long term.
by packallday555 on Jul 28, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed inre the Vikings secondary, it’s got a lot of question marks over it this year… but now that Winfield is re-signed, between him and Madieu Williams, it should hold. But that’s why we took Asher Allen so high in the draft, and he’s signed.
Also agreed that the time to start looking for Phat Pat’s replacement is now. It’ll take a while to fill those big shoes. It’s the next area to focus on. The rest of the D-Line and LB corps are just fine, thank you :)
The O-line received a big boost named Loadholt, 2nd round draft pick, with the widest ‘wingspan’ of any lineman in the 2009 draft. He should take care of things on the right side where we’ve had issues with Cook.
The WR corps is young, period. Wade isn’t aging, you might be thinking of a different ‘Wade’. He’s actually a couple months younger than Berrian, both of them are 28 :) . We all keep pulling for Rice to step up, I think this will be his year to make or break. Allison likewise, he might not make it out of the pre-season. Jaymar Johnson is up and coming fast and got a lot of praise from NFL all-time great Cris Carter in a working WR clinic. And then there’s Percy Harvin… the Vikes have a lot of raw talent here, no worries at all.
QB is the biggest question, but I have faith that this year, either T-Jack will finally grow into the #1 slot, or Rosey will.
The Vikes are built to win now, but also have a decent future foundation. It’s overall a very young team, the only real grand-daddy is Phat Pat, we likes him just fine :)
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Jul 29, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just like all of us can!
From our couches playing John Madden! GOOOOOOOOO LLLLIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOONNNNNNSS.
by davis0169 on Jul 28, 2009 7:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lions SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!
by REVENGE4FAVRE on Jul 28, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he didn't
bash your team so don’t bash his
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 28, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dolphins SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!
by REVENGE4FAVRE on Jul 28, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good one
that was very original. with that it proved you are more than ten years old. I’ll go with 12 now.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 28, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has nothing left to say!
His dreams of FAVRE are Dashed and that is as sweet as it gets. Now him and Madden can think about someone else when giving selfpleasure.
by davis0169 on Jul 28, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dreams of Favre
ha he probably wasn’t even alive during the Favre era. Bandwagon and team switcher..aka loser.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 28, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dolphins will finish last in their division!
Stay on your sites………………………..
otherwise be prepared to be attacked!
Don’t come here and attack me!
IDIOT!
by REVENGE4FAVRE on Jul 28, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm real afraid of you
I mean come on. You act like a 4th grader and troll on the site of your “team” you aren’t even a real fan. you are just some little kid that types “HATER” and thinks that that offends people. You are just some little jerk sitting at your computer crying because your idol Favre is sitting home now. I bet you weren’t even alive in ‘92 when he started playing. You don’t know anything about football saying the Dolphins will finish last in their division. Do you even know what division they are in without googling it?
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 28, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This should be a McDonalds commercial
Cause I’m loving it!
by davis0169 on Jul 28, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DID YOU LOVE.............................
0-16!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
by REVENGE4FAVRE on Jul 28, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As much as you are going to love
Watching Favre on TV on sundays sitting next to Terry Bradshaw and Comp on FOX’s pregame shows.
by davis0169 on Jul 28, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
by sticking through
that season he proved he is a real fan. not a Favre-obsessed non-fan
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 28, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Serve Volley
Right back at ya, you toothless, troll!
by davis0169 on Jul 28, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least I have a Dick
Unlike you little WOMAN!
by davis0169 on Jul 28, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
flagged
it is inappropriate to rely on petty things such as that to argue.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 28, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now be fair, if you’re going to do that you have to flag Davis’ too.
In AP I trust
Just say no to Favre.
F-A-R-V-A =/= F-A-V-R-E
by FarvaForTheVikings on Jul 30, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did
I knew it wouldn’t be fair if I didn’t. They both used the same word just not in the same context. Both offensive nonetheless but still not removed. I think arguing doesn’t need to move to offensive words to win a fight. Facts and figures instead of swearing and cussing. So they both got flagged. No worries.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 30, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Farva
I flag myself for going down to R4F’s level of nonintelligence. I am still sorry I had to come get some of him. But I know you were reading all that stuff that me and him were saying to each other a month ago. I SWEAR that’s the last slam on him. I PROMISS!
by davis0169 on Jul 30, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
flagged
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 28, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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