Make it Stop, Brett
by Anthony21 on Jul 23, 2009 2:13 PM CDT
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PrintThe usual disclaimer: We've been through plenty of bad reporting from Ed Werder and ESPN, so take their stuff with a grain of salt. However, the latest report on Favre is a) startling enough to cause some concern, and b) plausible, if not believable, given Favre's track record of wavering when he needs to make a decision. Here it is:
With Minnesota Vikings players scheduled to report to training camp in less than a week, Brett Favre remains anguished about whether he should come out of retirement and join the team. That decision, according to sources, has become more difficult in recent days because of the efforts of Vikings players including Adrian Peterson, Jared Allen and Steve Hutchinson, all of whom have now begun calling and texting Favre in an attempt to convince him to become Minnesota's starting quarterback.
"If it weren't for the involvement of the Vikings players directly telling Brett they want him on their team, I think he might have already decided against playing again,'' a source said.
If this report is indeed accurate -- and it certainly sounds like Werder could be hitting the nail on the head with this one -- then all bets are off. This has all the indications of Favre looking to weasel his way out of training camp, using his "agonized, woe is me" state to allow the process to continue beyond the start of camp next week.
What continues to be so incredibly frustrating about this storyline is all the reports that completely contradict each other. Just a few days ago, Thomas George of NFL.com was telling us that Favre would almost certainly make a decision by Friday of this week. George wrote: "[Favre] thinks his body -- and specifically his arm -- can withstand season-long exertion." And Werder countered today by contradicting every word of that:
What seems unresolved in Favre's mind is whether, at age 39, he can reasonably expect to be healthy enough to play 16-plus games for the Vikings while maintaining the standard of performance he expects of himself.
Which one is it?!? Does he or doesn't he think his arm can withstand a complete season?
With all the uncertainty surrounding this whole saga, one thing has been crystal clear throughout: It would be disastrous for the Vikings to start training camp and not have a decision from Brett. Unfortunately, that could be where this thing is heading if the team doesn't have the spine to say "no thanks" if he can't make up his mind.
George wrote: "Ultimately, the Minnesota Vikings expect the answer to be yes. And those closest to Favre do, too." Werder's source said: "He might have already decided against playing again" if not for the involvement of Viking players. Again, I ask: Which one is it?!? I've had more than enough of this back-and-forth drama.
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Regardless of what anyone thinks about Brett personally,
I don’t think there is any way he could let the Vikes go to training camp without giving them a decision.
LSU Tigers Baseball... NCAA National Champions- 2009.
If he doesn't have an answer by training camp
forget about it
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by thewild_viking_twins on Jul 23, 2009 2:30 PM CDT reply actions
I agree
if he’s waffling about whether he wants to commit, once training camp is underway, the bus should leave without him
He will make a decision before camp.
And that decision will be “No”. He will then sign a contract after the second preseason game.
"Skol pa fiskande"
This is why I can’t fucking stand Favre. I’m sick of it. Anyone who expected anything else is delusional.
by PurplePeopleEaters on Jul 23, 2009 2:32 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
+1
that and his uncanny knack of finding opposing db’s at crucial moments.
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 23, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Give it time..
He WILL decide before camp..because the Vikings will not let it go any longer..they’re not that big of ass kissers. Favre will play.
Let's just all take a deep breath for a second....
This is Werder after all. He’s been wrong how many times?
Favre said he would have a decision before July 30th, and that’s what I expect.
Everything else that is going on is speculation from anonymous sources and monkey’s like Werder. Just ignore it.
THIS IS FAVRE
I would not be surprised if he leaked this to Werder himself.
1> It gives him more bang if he does sign this weekend.
2> It gives him a chance to back off until later if something else happens this weekend to steal some of the limelight he thinks should all be his.
3> As some think here he does not need training camp and neither does he.
by bleedingpurplesince74 on Jul 23, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn’t we just have a report on Jared Allen saying that he was basically against the favre signing, and now he is supposedly texting and calling favre begging him to come?
Seems fishy.
by Bjorno on Jul 23, 2009 3:00 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Does anyone else agree that the sudden signing of both Winfield and Allen in one day indicate that something is going on?
In my little head, there are only two possible reasons.
1. Farve has already agreed to terms and has signed the contract committing him to join the team and since we know our available cap space we signed these guys.
2. Farve has decided to stay retired and we now are scrambling to hold onto Winfield.
by Bjorno on Jul 23, 2009 3:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
By Friday Brett... or else!
He is on record as saying, he will give his decision before training camp. Some reports say this Friday, but he must give them an answer before TC or the Vikes should say no thanks. For good. He has countless time said the Vikes need an answer by the 31st, will give them one and if he doesn’t give it too them, then screw off!
The Vikes have been more than patient with your timetable (thats putting it mildly) so man up or man out!!!!!!!!!!!!
GregP
Meanwhile....
Joey Harrington’s still a free agent!
Maybe, just once, someone will call me "sir" without adding, "you're making a scene."
I would take Sagevaris Jacksonfels any day over Harrington.
by Bjorno on Jul 23, 2009 5:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm ignoring the media on this one.
He said he’ll have a decision on the 31st and he doesn’t want to come in mid-camp like he did with the Jets. Everything between now and then is media hype for ratings.
When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.
Farve coming back
You have to look at why he would be coming back in the first place. To Win! if he is going to win and be able to do what he said he was going to do, he will have to be back for camp! Farve said that he will tell us by the end of the month. So lets not get all excited here! If he doesn’t let us know by the 30th! Then we should just go are way with what we have. And not look back!
you should come back too chuck!
but i thought you spelled your name f-o-r-E-m-a-n?
by iseepurplepeople on Jul 23, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Camp Day 2
Let him decide on day two of camp! I’m going with my son next Friday, and could do without an extra few rings in the media circus for one day.
I don't trust Werder at ALL
Werder has established himself as the Charley Walters of ESPN since this Favre story broke.
That said it would be just like Brett to try to weasel out of training camp. Given the injury history for players that miss a significant amount of training camp, he needs to be there. Given the growing split between players who think T Jack and Sage are being treated unfairly and deserve a shot to start, he needs to be there. Given that Brad is a bit of a disciplinarian who will not put up with Favre’s shenanigans, he needs to be there.
At any rate, we’ll know if Thomas George is right or not soon enough.
Despite all the talk and hype, if Favre tries to hold off his decision in to training camp, I firmly believe Childress will put his foot down. Either he’s there for the start of camp or he is not going to be a Viking.
Weasel!
Is exactly what I have been saying all along. Favre is tryin gto stay away as long as he can without looking bad. I want BF but…
I will not swallow a guy wanting to be part of the team missing training camp. You missed everything else and bought your time. Don’t do it at TEAM expense!
I'm more than content with Tavaris for one more season...
… adding Favre would not make much of a difference record wise to me, so if he is not in by camp, forget about it and move on.
Go Nevada Wolf Pack!
I have to say,
Your screen name is misleading, even with the “Go Nevada Wolf Pack!” sig.
F’ing pack fan. ;)
This Has Officially Gone Too Far!!
Look how it’s affecting the fans! I can only imagine how the players and staff must be feeling right now over this madness! After everything we’ve read over the past couple of weeks or so from Favre’s arm doing fine to him leasing a condo in Edina or somewhere nearby, now suddenly Favre may be getting cold feet?!? I know I’m in the minority in thinking Sage might actually make a serviceable starter, but right now I’m ready to welcome Sage as a starter. Has he done anything at all except deal with this crap like a professional? No trade rumors, no waffling, given the Purple NO grief whatsoever, just wants to do what will be the best for this team. And…he IS signed and has been training with the Vikings this summer. Favre has done nothing for the Vikings as of right now but alienate fans and players and greatly increase the antiacid consumption of nearly everyone on the Vkings staff. If Chilly wants to have any credibility with the players, he must stick to that deadline for Favre like glue.
Well, Favre?!? YES OR NO?!?
by Purple And Gold Forever on Jul 23, 2009 7:05 PM CDT reply actions
Favre is just messing with the media
That or it’s a slow day at the office, i mean ESPN after all doesn’t think the Roethislberger allegations is news worthy, Werder was like “screw it I’ll make some shit up!”
by Timothy De Block on Jul 23, 2009 7:52 PM CDT reply actions
It's the media. What has Favre really been quoted as saying?
It’s all just a bunch of Source: blah blah blah! None of which has Favre actually in person saying anything. The only stuff to believe should be the stuff coming from the Vikes organization, which is that he will decide before training camp.
I agree
He could be sending out his little minions aka “sources” to go mess with Ed Werder, and make him look like an idiot.
by Timothy De Block on Jul 24, 2009 7:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Favre for Campbell
Noon July 29th:
Favre finally deceides he wants to join the Vikings for really real.
2pm July 29th:
Breaking news! The Vikings have traded Favre to the Washington Redskins for Jason Campbell before the ink could even dry on his new contract! Sources close to the Vikings are reporting that the Vikings made the move just to mess with Favre after he jerked everybody around for the last 7 years with the will he/wont he retire crap.
7pm July 29th:
Favre holds a press conference stating he is once again retiring after being immediately traded by the Vikings to the Redskins.
August 3rd: Roger Goddell holds emergency meeting with all the owners and they all deciede to immediately implement a rule that all retirements for active players are considered final.
what does it matter
you guys sign him and he would be the most hated man in football if not that he is already, he is a curse ever since he left green bay he is old and delusional and should just retire with the little dignity he has let
Assuming this is true, Favre is making a big mistake. He should only play if he wants to play. If he doesn’t want to play, he shouldn’t let someone else talk him into it.
Also, if he doesn’t decide by the time training camp starts we should move on without him. Of course, I think we should move on without him anyways, but that’s just me.
In AP I trust
Just say no to Favre.
F-A-R-V-A =/= F-A-V-R-E
by FarvaForTheVikings on Jul 23, 2009 11:37 PM CDT reply actions
ESPN Credability
They are more like a Highlight Reel, with too many opinions and not enough facts when it comes to reporting news. I thought Childress has said that if Favre is not at training camp the 1st day he would go on without him. So, yes we will know by training camp if he is the quarterback or not.
SKOL
Werder is a joke....
I don’t buy it for one second. He’s done this several times this season and it’s always va-poo-rized and turned into nothing. I’m absolutely convinced Favre is going to sign, and he’ll do it before training camp.
Unfortunately, this is the exact kind of response that people in sports media like to illicit from sports fans. It keeps them going to the websites, checking the TV, this, that and the other about Favre – and that translates into $$ for them. I’m telling you what though, just through this summer alone I’ve lost TONS of respect for BSPN. They are turning into the paparazzi before my very eyes it seems like…. all smoke and mirrors with these guys.
Skol Vikings – I’m so pumped for this season!
This is what kills me....
So Werder reports that “those close to Brett Favre”, say he’s conflicted. So you’ve got a known spin doctor using second-hand information from an anonymous source. By the end of the day, people that dislike Favre talk about this story like it was a direct quote from Favre.
This is why people see Favre as a self-absorbed ass. They attribute these rumors as things that are coming out of his mouth. I’m not buying this one, just like I didn’t buy the last Werder news flash that Chilly called out the next day on KFAN.
I think we should give Favre until camp. That’s what he asked for and I don’t see it as a hardship. It would be nice if we would hear about it today, but that fact of the matter is Favre said before training camp.
I’m done listening to 2nd hand reports because reporters will write anything, based on anything, if it’s new news related to Favre.
STOP LISTENING TO BSPN!!!!
Once again everyone is listening to these bullsh*t stories coming form the one and only Ed Werder. Hasn’t anyone learned anything from the PAST FEW MONTHS?!? Don’t listen to anything until you hear it from the horses mouth! Until Brett Favre or someone from the Vikes staff comes out and makes a comment themselves, don’t listen to anything.
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