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Breaking down the Eagles vs. Vikings playoff game.

With all the drama and speculation surrounding the vikings this offseason, I thought I'd take a look at one of the major points of contention from last season: the season ending loss to the eagles in the playoffs. To me, this game epitomized the entire viking season last year. It had everything that went right and wrong for the vikings all year. I recently recorded the NFL Network replay of the game. Over the past couple of weeks I've watched the game several times in bits and pieces, trying to capture the entire game. During this time I've taken notes on different players and different plays that I think were key to the game. NFL network doesn't show every single play on their replays, so with the help of games stats from NFL.com I've been able to come up with this analysis of game. Hopefully this won't be too long winded and you'll bear with me through this. See you after the jump and I hope you can bear with me through all of this.

 

Star-divide

 

Eagles get the ball first. One first down and punt.

Evaluation: Good but not great, the theme of the game for our defense.

Vikings throw on first play. Jackson hit as he threw incomplete. This becomes the theme of the game. Vikings get a first down and wind up at 4th and inches at the viking 30. Childress elects to punt.

Evaluation: This is the first big mistake of the game. You have the worst punt coverage team in the history of the NFL and you have the number one running back in the entire league.  It's fourth and inches, what do you do?  This was a stupid decision.

Eagles blitz on third down and one guys is untouched. The qb has to have blockers.

Eagles return the punt to inside the vikings 30. (62yds)

Evaluation: Effectively here, it would have been better if the vikings had gone for it on fourth down and failed.

Vikings allow 1 yd and eagles kick field goal. 1 yard. No offense necessary on this score. Our coaches bad decision, and our woeful punt coverage were all that was needed.

3-0 eagles

Peterson gets hit in head on next vikings play and is pulled from the game.

Jackson hits berrian on 3rd down for a big gain.

Jackson hits wade on another 3rd down for 11yds.

Peterson comes back

Jackson throws timing route. Rice isn't there on time, vikings punt from eagles 42.

Evaluation: Vikings get 3 first downs on jacksons arm while peterson is unavailable.  No peterson, and we still moved the ball.  On the last third down, if you're just watching the game, you're going to blame jackson.  But if you watch it more closely, in the context of what the offense is trying to do, this play was all rice's fault.  Rice is the primary receiver on this play. How do I know?  The quickness and timing of the play.  The ball is gone from jackson's had less than 3 seconds after the ball is snapped.  This is the premise of the west coast offense.  Most plays are designed for the qb to throw to a specific spot on the field, not a specific player.  A better route runner is in the proper position on this play and jackson is credited with another crucial 3rd down conversion.  Instead, everyone says "who the hell is he throwing too?".

Eagles start at 25.

Buckhalter runs for 26yds

Vikings hold at 35.

51yd field goal.

Evaluation: Everyone points to the westbrook 71yd touchdown as the only big play the vikings gave up.  I disagree. That buckhalter run was crucial and a lot of defensive players made mistakes on this play.  In my opinion, if ej is in the game this big run never happens.  In the end the viking defense bends but doesn't break.  Again, good but not great.

6-0 eagles (end of first)

Vikings get bogged down and jackson hits rice at 3rd and 6 for a first down (4/6 on third down at this point).

Jackson almost hits allison on 3rd and 3, pass interference (5/7 on 3rd).

Next 3rd and 2, peterson goes all the way (6/8 on 3rd). what a run, no one even touched him.

Evaluation: This is what we've been waiting for.  ap breaks off a big one.  But without jackson's crucial 3rd down conversions, the run never happens.

7-6 vikings

Sharper get hurt on next eagles possession, out.

Vikings use 2nd time out at 10min left in 2nd.

35yd pass play to viking 20. (mccauley)

31yd field goal.

Evaluation: Again, the westbrook touchdown isn't the only big play.  This 35yd was big and mccauley got burned bad.  Hopefully asher allen turns into a good nickel back at least.  We really missed gordon for this game. And what's with burning our 2nd timeout of the game with 10min left in the half?  This becomes meaningful.  In the end, the defense hold.  Good, but not great.

9-7 eagles

Vikings get to their own 35, jackson throws pick (hit as he throws) to asante samuel for a td

This is the play tjack gets body slammed.

Evaluation: I don't know if this was tj's fault or not.  He had two guys on him when he threw it.  He probably should have thrown it out of bounds or taken the sack.  Eagles blitzed 2 on this play and hid it well, no one picked them up.

16-7 eagles

3rd and 5 at the viking 42, jackson throws to berrian down to the eagles 31.

(Eagles allowed 32% 3rd down conversion 2nd best in nfl)

Taylor just rocks. Takes us down to the 3.

Peterson in for the td.

We just ran it down their throats on this one with tj making the crucial throws.

Evaluation: This is my favorite drive of the game.  What a monster taylor is when he comes in fresh.  AP may have scored the td, but this was taylors drive.  The eagles knew we were going to run and they just couldn't stop us.

16-14 eagles

3rd and 1 at their own 48, mcnabb goes long and griffin picks it at the viking 13.

Evaluation: Got lucky here, eagles were moving the ball well until this play.

Vikings take over at their own 13 with 1:10 left and only 1 timeout and go three and out (run,incomplete,run).

Coach calls 2 runs with 1:10 left and 1 to?? wtf?

Kluwe gives a good punt but eagles take over at their own 44 (needing about 20yds for field goal) with 0:18 left.

Evaluation: 2nd big mistake of the game.  First of all the vikings only have 1 timeout because they wasted 2 earlier in the half.  Secondly, you're passing game is clicking (7/10 on 3rd down conversions).  Third, there's still time if you give tj some protection to throw.  Childress decides to playcall as if there's still 5min left instead of 1.

Westbrook get 9yds with 0:13 left. needs about 10 more yds for field goal.

Incomplete with 0:08 left.

Westbrook tripped up in bounds to end the half.

Evaluation: Defense dodges a bullet.  If westbrook gets out of bounds on that play, the eagles get a shot at 3 more points.  They shouldn't have been on the field to begin with, but they did nothing on this drive but get backed up.

16-14 eagles at halftime (vikings 7/10 on 3rd down, eagles 2/7)

Evaluation: At this point 2 big coaching gaffes have us in our current plight.  We've moved the ball well against the eagles defense, but they've moved it well against ours as well.  Our defense has played good but not great.  They haven't been on the field for long stretches because we are losing the field postion battle big time.  Their average starting spot is the 33. Ours is the 18.

Vikings open the 2nd half with 2 17yd passes to sass.

The run is going no where as the eagles are run blitzing on every play (hence the success of the sass passes)

3rd and 6 at the eagels 44 (another blitz!) jackson loses the ball but recovers for a loss of 12.

No time at all for jackson. That last set of downs went run, run, pass.

Vikings pin eagles at their own 5 on the punt.

Evaluation: I won't call this the 3rd big mistake of the game, but it comes close.  The eagles are run blitzing on every play.  Selling out big time.  Jackson doesn't have any time to throw anything long.  He hits sass twice on quick outlets for 34yds total.  So, does the coach call plays that have all the receivers on short to intermediate routes?  No, he runs.  The only good news is that the eagles start with their worst field position of the day.

Mcnabb converts the third down from the endzone.

Mcnabb moves the eagles down the viking 35 on 5/7 passing but is sacked on 3rd down and eagles punt.

Evaluation: That conversion was clutch.  Mcnabb knows his job.  Again though the eagles pick us apart halfway down the field until the sack.  Our defense is good, but not great.  Additionally, now we're back in bad field position again.

Vikings next possession - run, run, run, punt (on 4th and 1 again) eagles get the ball at the min 40.

Evaluation: WTF CHILLY??  Did you not see our last possession where the eagles run blitzed on EVERY play?  Did we run some play action?  Did we dink and dunk them like they just dinked and dunked us?  Is that the west coast offense?  Worst series of the game here and that includes the turnovers.

Mcnabb fumbles on second play and vikings recover at the viking 38.

Evaluation: Finally a lucky break.

Vikings go incomplete, run, incomplete

Vikings pin eagles at the 4.

Evaluation: Jackson is under a lot of pressure.  The eagles blitz is one of the best in the business and the vikings just aren't picking it up well.  Jackson makes some bad decisions (inexperienced bad decisions) but if we just pick up the damn blitz he wouldn't be in that position!

Eagles drive to their own 46 on 4/5 passing by mcnabb.

Evaluation: Mcnabb dinks and dunks us again but we hold.  Good but not great.

Vikings move to their own 35 before punting (blitz, blitz, blitz) jackson has no time at all after berrian penalty on 3rd and long.

Evaluation: After the last drive, the eagles do the exact same thing on defense.  Exactly.  Do we exploit what we know and put in some plays to take advantage of what we KNOW is coming?  No, we run the same basic plays as last time.  We do move it a bit, but the berrian penalty was a gift.  There wasn't a penalty there.

Next play, westbrook goes 71yds for a score.

Evaluation: This one breaks us.  You can see it in the whole team.  Everyone's play drops a little after this play.  The eagles have shut us down offensively and our defense isn't stopping them.

23-14 eagles

Vikings take over at their 25.

Wade misses a catch on first down.

No blocking 2nd down, 2 guys through untouched.

Evaluation: The first down miss was 100% wade just plain dropping it.  On second down, ARGH, PICK UP THE DAMN BLITZ!  I'm not sure what to make of the 3rd down play.  3 receiver set, wade in the slot, can't tell who's wide on the strong side but the guy just stops running.  The pass is to wade but he's got 3 guys on him.  This was obviously a timing pattern and whoever the other receiver was didn't do his job and allowed all the defenders to go to wade.  This was incomplete but in no way was it tj's fault.

Eagles go 3 and out (their first of the game)

Evaluation: Ok, I've changed my mind.  Our defense hasn't been good this game.  They've been very average.  One 3 and out?  One?

Vikings get the ball back at their own 15 and go immediately to shotgun.

1st pass awesome coverage.  The ball hits rice in the hands.

2nd pass terrible pass by jackson.

3rd pass hit as he throws, incomplete, roughing the passer

On the next 2nd down, tj scrambles for 17 yds. (first scramble)

Bad snap, fumble assigned to jackson even though it hit him in the foot at the vikings 47.  Eagles recover.

Evaluation: This could have been a good series and possibly given us a slight chance.  But rice just plain missed the ball.  And that 2nd down throw by jackson?  I can see why people say bad things about him.  That one stunk. Birk.  What can I say.

Eagles go 20 yds on 5 plays for a field goal. Vikings use all 3 timeouts, plus a penalty on philly, plus 2 minute warning.

Evaluation: Someone is going to have to explain to me how the vikings can have the clock stopped on a penalty plus the 2 minute warning and still need all 3 timeouts to get the ball back on 5 plays.  The eagles just ran over our vaunted run defense.  Pathetic.

26-14 eagles

Vikings get the ball back, tj goes 4/6 passing but there are 2 penalties on cook and 1 on herrera.

Evaluation: Take away the penalties on this drive and tj marches us down the field.  Probably not enough time to actually score but he moved us.

End of game (vikings 1/8 on 3rd down, eagles 3/7).

 

Postgame Evaluation:

Like I said in the beginning, this game was a microcosm of our entire season. Our defense seemed to play well but really didn't (mcnabb went 24/35 or 68%). You can't allow almost 70% passing and call yourself a good defense. We did hold them to a 2.9 rushing average.

Our special teams did bad although we didn't give up a special teams td (although it was close). Special teams stat of the game: eagles punt returns, 5 for 109 yds - vikings punt returns, 1 for 1 yd. That's right, we had 1 whole yard on punt returns for the entire game. Their average field postion: 33, ours: 18.

On offense we did pretty good in the first half but terrible in the second half. Let's blame tj right? He can't read defenses so he sucks. Apparently our coaching staff can't read defenses either because philly basically ran one defense the entire second half. They blitzed the run on most plays even if it was a passing down. Our protection just wasn't there. TJ had no time to throw. When he did, he made the plays. You could have thrown any qb of all time in their prime in this game and they would have sucked. You can't throw the ball when you don't have protection. You need at least 3 seconds to pass the ball unless you're just going to throw it to a receiver at the line. Loadholt better be the real deal or we'll see the same thing all year this year. The right side of our o-line was a sieve.

Our coaching sucked. Bad decisions, no flexibility. No in game adjustments. People can say that we have to dumb down our offense because our qb sucks but I don't see what that has to do with burning 2 timeouts in the first 20 minutes of the half. Or not going for it on 4th and inches when you have the best running back in the league and the worst punt coverage unit in nfl history. Or when the defense is run blitzing on every play so you decide to run 3 times and we have to punt.

We don't necessarily need a new qb. We need more consistency on defense. Having every back healthy should help there, but our defense wasn't very good in this game. Yes we had 3 sacks and a pick but we have to stop them more consistently. Basically we didn't have the secondary to cover the eagles receivers. And the eagles receivers aren't that good but they have so many. I don't think I even need to talk about special teams anymore. Offense must become more flexible. We can't telegraph our plays every down and then jump on the qb when they get stuffed every play. You're always going to have mistakes in a game. I understand that and I expect that. To me, if we had better coaching, we win this game. Everything else could have gone the same. Our level of play throughout could have remained as it was. Our special teams can still suck. Our defense can bend too far. Our o-line could fail to pick up the blitz. Our qb can still make some bad throws. But give me better coaching and we win this game.

Sorry for the length of this post and thank you for bearing with me through this.  It was painful for me as well.

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4th and inches at our own 30…I don’t know. If we go for it and the play stalls, a lot of us would be calling for Chilly’s head. Of course I wanted to go for it too, but its kind of risky for the beginning of a playoff game. We should have never been in that position to begin with.

by dsludo on Jul 27, 2009 11:22 AM CDT reply actions  

this is true

i thought about all that. any other team and i agree. but i’ll repeat. the best running back in the nfl and the worst punting unit in nfl history.

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 27, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

That’s the key, and both issues are simple proven fact. It changes the equation and makes the run option a no-brainer in that specific instance. It’s like Chilly doesn’t adapt to the evolving situation.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Jul 28, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

C'Mon...

This is a no brainer. In this situation, you punt. Period.

by footballninja on Jul 28, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

4th & Inches

You need to move the chains less than 12 inches… And you have McKinney, Hutch, Birk, the Sasser and Taylor, to clear the road for an ADRIAN PETERSON.

C’mon man… you run your ass off.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Jul 29, 2009 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

“You need to move the chains less than 12 inches… And you have McKinney, Hutch, Birk, the Sasser and Taylor, to clear the road for an ADRIAN PETERSON.”

This is all you needed against week 10 and you did not get. You guys all talk like it’s an automatic 1st down or something. You don’t go for it on 4th and inches from your own 30 on your first possession of the game.

by packallday555 on Jul 30, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

come on now packallday. nothing is ever 100% in football. but ap behind our line? when the alternative is our punt team? i’ll take ap. everytime.

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 30, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

4th and Inches

When you’re looking at the miserable state of the Vikings Special Teams last year, that makes the case just that much more compelling… Doesn’t mean you’re always going to make it, but if you can get away with it 3/4 of the time, I think it’s definitely worthwhile. And I think the Viking’s front line with AP or CT coming up behind it, fills the equation.

But truth be told, I’m a sucker for “4th and inches”. You make it, you deliver a huge boost to the team’s morale and momentum. You miss it, and morale can take a big hit. All the marbles on the table and the players are all measured not just by strength and quickness but by heart and sheer will-power. Gotta love it, gotta go for it :)

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Aug 1, 2009 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed dsludo

I don’t care who your running back is, you don’t go for 4th and inches on your own 30, on your first possession of a playoff game. Had you not gotten it the Eagles would have had all the momentum and confidence in the world (especially their defense). You can’t blame Childress for that, punting was absolutely the right thing to do. He can’t help that your punt coverage was horrible, and gave up a 60 yard return. Plus, the fact that AP had been stopped on 4th and inches earlier in the year probably only made Childress more nervous at the thought of going for it.

by packallday555 on Jul 28, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I give this debate to packallday555

Sorry, but you do not go for it on 4th down on your own 30 on your first possession. In any game, forget about a playoff game.

by puddnhead on Jul 28, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

again normally i would agree
Had you not gotten it the Eagles would have had all the momentum and confidence in the world

had we not gotten it, the eagles would have had worse field position and they had the momentum either way.

any other team, any other team in the history of the nfl, even the 07 or 09 vikings and i’d agree with you. but we had the number 1 running back in the league and the worst punt team in the history of the nfl. a punt team that kept us from going 12-4 with gus and tj as our qbs! plus we’re at home. in that situation, which is a one in million situation i admit, you go for it. you set the tone of the game by shoving it right down their throats.

the odds of us not making a fouth and inches are less than the odds of them having a good punt return against us. this applies only to the 2008 vikings.

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 28, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno

“had we not gotten it, the eagles would have had worse field position and they had the momentum either way.”

But when Childress elected to punt it, he wasn’t assuming you guys would give up a huge return. He couldn’t have known they would return it to your 30.

“plus we’re at home. in that situation, which is a one in million situation i admit, you go for it. you set the tone of the game by shoving it right down their throats.”

In week 10 we stopped you on 4th and inches at home, and I think it’s safe to say the Eagles defense was waaaayyyy better then ours. It would have either set the tone for you guys, or set the tone for the Eagles. You don’t take that big of a risk on your first possession when your fairly deep in your own territory.

by packallday555 on Jul 28, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

But when Childress elected to punt it, he wasn’t assuming you guys would give up a huge return. He couldn’t have known they would return it to your 30.

i don’t know why he wouldn’t. we set the record for most punt returned tds in history. we had a higher % of big punt returns that we did getting stuffed on 4th and inches.

the odds of not making it were a lot smaller than the odds of them returning it big. for any other team this isn’t true. take the better odds.

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 28, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Less than 12"

If we run that scenario a dozen times and could bet money each time, when it was over I think I’d be the one with more cash in my pocket than you :)

Seriously. We’re not talking about just any RB here… we’re talking Adrian Peterson, and he had All Pros Hutch and Birk to lead the way for McKinney, ’Sasser, and Taylor to grade the road, and he only needs 12".

Crap. I’d want to get odds on AP breaking free and going all the way, let alone a measly 12"!

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Jul 29, 2009 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I seem to remember

Help me if my memory is wrong, but I seem to remember on the pick 6 that there was one of our linemen in TJ’s face and that he basically tried to arm throw it (I know how else would you throw it, what I mean is that he could not step into the throw). I have never gone back and looked at the game to see if he could have slide in the pocket to avoid the rush. I agree the defense was meh and the coaching was bad. 4th and inches with our running game early set’s the tone that we believe in our players to beat your players. Oh well onto this year.

by SouthernNorseman on Jul 27, 2009 11:59 AM CDT reply actions  

in the second half

the pocket didn’t exist. unless you count sharing it with a player from the opposing team. yes there was a guy in his face on that play as there was on nearly every play of the second half. he probably should have thrown that ball and a more experience qb probably would not have thrown it.

adjustments should have been made and the blocking should have been better and tj shouldn’t have thrown that ball. it was the perfect storm on that play.

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 27, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Play calling

is what baffled my mind the whole season. I remember the 4 and inches. We live on our running game and don’t go gor it?
Play /WR adjustments to help stop a team from blitzing. You move the ball short and consistant and take the idea of the blitz out of the D coordinators plan. Most good HS coaches know this. Running into filled gaps won’t work, waiting for the long ball won’t, having only a slot and TE (who is now forced to pick up the blitz) doesn’t work.
You leave outside dump passes to a RB, Slot reciever keeps the slant, WR run short curl outs and 15 yd down and ins. QB now has targets with only a short time to throw. Recievers are getting behind the blitz and an RB outside the blitz zone

by CitrusFLViking on Jul 27, 2009 12:41 PM CDT reply actions  

the kleinsasser series

where sass had 34 yds on 2 catches showed that we could move the ball. if the offense had continued to play call in that vein, they would have busted the blitz and forced the eagles to back off. unfortunately i didn’t see another reciever/te in the flat the rest of the game.

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 27, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty much...

…how I remembered it…….as painful as it was.

by KC612 on Jul 27, 2009 12:49 PM CDT reply actions  

coach is a retard

his play-calling is absolute crap. It reminds me of my old high school coach who called two plays only: the blast trap (run up either left or right) or a qb sneak hahaha

sugar + water + purple

by Grape Drank on Jul 27, 2009 1:00 PM CDT reply actions  

You're being nice to Jackson in 2nd half

I agree with most of this. But, I think Jackson broke down in the fourth quarter and wasn’t quite as good as you view it. Don’t get me wrong, he played well the first 3 quarters and didn’t get so frustrated he played poorly until the other problems took the game nearly out of reach. The big problems I saw, and you allude to are these:
-Our RB’s and TE’s weren’t picking up blitzes
-The play calling didn’t adjust for the defense; we had no answer for a blitz with deep zone coverage
-Except for Winfield and Griffin, our coverage was below average
-Punt coverage

by ChemErik on Jul 27, 2009 5:00 PM CDT reply actions  

He certainly broke down in the fourth, but wouldn’t you in his position?

You are a young qb playing in your first playoff game, your team is down late in the game and your coach is not giving you any help. So you push your game over the edge trying everything you can to win the game, which includes throwing jump passes.

by Bjorno on Jul 27, 2009 11:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

i am being nice to jackson

it’s the biggest game of his life and only the 19th start of his career. his team is losing. he’s got about 2.5 seconds per play to make a pass. and after the westbrook touchdown, you could kinda see the whole team deflate.

under those circumstances, how can anyone expect him to play well? i certainly don’t. but he kept it together. he didn’t fall apart and on the vikings last drive he was completing passes. 3 penalties on the oline killed it. the guy kept his composure. he’s learning. he’s doing better.

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 28, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

But I still don’t think that is enough to dismiss his very poor play. He completed like 48% of his passes or something like that, and the pick 6 was his fault. Samuel baited him into throwing that ball the whole way. Yes, there was some pressure on him but he should have just thrown it away, or taken the sack. Just because the o-line didn’t pick up the blitz well enough, doesn’t mean he can just make a mistake and have it be forgotten about because his blocking wasn’t good enough.

by packallday555 on Jul 28, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

you are correct

he’s a green qb in his first playoff game and a veteran player goads him into a mistake. those are exactly the things he should have learned had he been playing the whole season. i’m not saying tj played great. he didn’t. my point in this post was that the team lost the game, not just tj.

give him better play calling and he’ll have better completion %.

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 28, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

“give him better play calling and he’ll have better completion %”

No, he wouldn’t have. The reason his completion % was so poor is because he can’t read coverages, and blitzes. The Eagles have many different coverages, and MANY different blitzes. Jackson looked like a deer in the headlights out there, he had no idea where to go to, and what to do. It didn’t help that your line didn’t pick up the blitzes well, but there is nothing you guys can do about that. In a situation like that, that’s where Jackson needs to step up and make some throws. He didn’t do that which was evident when looking at his completion % and that’s why you guys lost the game.

by packallday555 on Jul 28, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

watch the game

this isn’t what i saw when i watched the game over and over. he had no idea where to go because the only options he was given were closed. you should really go back and watch the game again. philly adjusted their defense at halftime. we didn’t make any adjustments at all on offense.

It didn’t help that your line didn’t pick up the blitzes well, but there is nothing you guys can do about that

you can change the plays! you can stop running the same 5 basic plays over and over! no qb is going to be successful in that situation.

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 28, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahaha

“you can change the plays! you can stop running the same 5 basic plays over and over! no qb is going to be successful in that situation.”

Childress couldn’t give Jackson the whole playbook because he wasn’t good enough. When Gus was your QB you looked like a new team, with a completely different offense. When Jackson came back it was like your offense was back to running high school plays. He couldn’t run the more complicated plays, which probably is largely due to the fact that he can’t read coverages, or blitz schemes.

“he had no idea where to go because the only options he was given were closed.”

This is because the Eagles probably watched him on tape, and saw that he really only ever threw check down routes, with the exception of an occasional bomb to Berrian. It’s not hard to stop a QB who passes to the same places every single time. (Wade on a slant route, Tahi on a dump route, occasional Berrian deep ball, Berrian curl route) This is where not being able to read coverage screws him. I think I’ve seen him look the coverage off once in his 19 starts. Pretty much every play he stares at the wr he is going to throw to from the second he hikes the ball. Obviously that’s not going to work against cb’s who like to jump routes.

by packallday555 on Jul 28, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok it's one way or the other

you say childress couldn’t give him the whole play book. yet he gave jackson the start over gus.

then you say it’s not hard to stop a qb who passes to the same places every time.

so who’s fault is it? jackson for not being able to make the throws because defenses know where he’s going to throw? or childress because he only allows jackson to throw to those same places every time?

i don’t buy the staring down the reciever thing. you don’t throw only 2 picks in 6 games if you stare down your receiver every time. has he done it? yes all qb’s do to some extent or another. but every time. you’re grasping.

look i’m not saying tj’s the gold qb and it’s all chillys fault that no one knows it. all i’m saying is that if you watch the game closely, you’ll see that on most plays, tj had no choice. and it wasn’t all him.

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 28, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Staring down the WR

T-Jack’s always had an issue of telegraphing his target, it’s a rook mistake that he needs to overcome. Not saying he always does it, but he does do it too often. If he can overcome that, he can use it as way to mislead the opposition; do that a few times and they’ll stop assuming that the ball is headed in the direction the helmet is facing. The thing is, to be able to do that, first he has to start using his peripheral vision better and overcome the issue.

T-Jack doesn’t have that issue when he’s throwing a timed route because he’s not looking at the receiver and doesn’t need to look in the direction he’s going to throw, either. I was comparing the heights of the 3 Viking QBs and T-Jack is the shortest at 6’2" (Booty is 6’3" and Rosey is 6’4"). These days, the “prototypical” great QB is as tall as possible so that he can see the receivers over the bigger O-lines and D-lines in front of him (Mt. McKinney and Loadholdt are both 6’8 man-mountain-bookends). In college, it probably wasn’t as much of an issue for T-Jack but on an NFL level where the biggest boys available are snatched up by every team, it could be that he finds himself playing through more blind windows than before. Not saying he’s short or too short, just in comparison with the other two, he has the smallest field of vision to work with, and timed routes are going to be his friends.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Aug 1, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

In case you have spaced this one little tidbit, but Childress does not allow Tjack to audible or make adjustments to the play on the line.

So even if he read the blitz properly, he was powerless to do anything about it.

by Bjorno on Jul 28, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

“In case you have spaced this one little tidbit, but Childress does not allow Tjack to audible or make adjustments to the play on the line.”

There is a reason for this….

by packallday555 on Jul 28, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

i don't get that

why start tj at all if that’s your attitude with him. gus had recovered from his injury why didn’t he start him? or at least put him in the game late for a spark?

the reason is he’s not a very good coach.

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 28, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you ever see Frerrotte audible?

by Bjorno on Jul 28, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cause I didn’t.

by Bjorno on Jul 28, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

audible?

there’s no audible in chilliball!

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 28, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn’t expect better and don’t put it all on Jackson. In fact, I think he played well overall. I’m was just pointing out that he showed he has places he still needs to grow. The QB is the leader of the team and if he drops his level of play when games look bleak, the rest of the team won’t turn things around either. He kept going through more than most QB’s in their 19th start (I’m assuming that’s correct, I didn’t check), but not as well as a top starter. Overall, I’d say the game showed he’s progressing but not the leader we need yet. If we somehow avoid bring in the Alabama boy, he might get to that point next year.

by ChemErik on Jul 28, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is exactly what i'm saying.

although i wouldn’t say he played well overall. in the first half yes. i’d say he played below average overall. but i won’t put all the blame for his poor play on just him.

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 28, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me neither

The o-line and rb’s are definitely at fault for some of his poor play because they couldn’t pick up the blitz. (But I haven’t seen a team who can pick up the Eagles blitz. Even the Pats in 07’ had trouble picking up all their different blitzes.) So ya, Jackson was in a shitty situation. But that’s where you need your QB to step up and lead the team, and Jackson couldn’t do that.

by packallday555 on Jul 28, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great post

When I was watching this game I was never once thinking “Wow Tjack sucks!!”. But I do recall thinking “WHY DID THEY DO THAT?”. I hope Chilly gets smarter about this next year… I also hope Philip Loadholt can replace Ryan Cook… those 2 penalties and him missing his guy killed us.

by FutureViking43 on Jul 27, 2009 8:08 PM CDT reply actions  

You should work for ESPN

Awsome post! Way better than anything you will probably ever see on TV.

I was at that game and saw a lot of stuff that you cant see on TV. T-Jack isn’t nearly as bad as most people believe. The O-line was not having a good day and MattyB was definetely off his game.

by MinnesotaRage on Jul 28, 2009 12:41 AM CDT reply actions  

it's too early

in the day to start drinking so I think I’ll try and wipe the memory of the playoff game from my mind. I think you’re right on the money with your analysis though.

by ZakInOmaha on Jul 28, 2009 8:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Great Recap and Good Analysis!

Thanks for putting in the hours of effort to make that happen, I think we really needed to look close and hard at what happened.

The vaunted Viking D was in rough shape by the time we got to the playoffs, with both the Hendersons down and out, the secondary was a sieve as long as they avoided Winfield, and the special teams were beyond bad with Farwell out. There’s always lots of talk about ‘built to win now’, and this is an example of it; the Vikings D and special teams really depend on having all the first stringers available and playing in top form (reference: Sharper).

I had forgotten that constant blitz in the second half, I think my mind had just blanked it out, lol. Yeah, painful. When I was younger, my position was QB and I always empathize most with the QBs in any game I watch; TJ was caught in a nightmare. I remember asking myself, “How the hell does that keep happening?! Where’s Mt McKinney and Hutch and Birk?!?!” All out of position, repeatedly.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Jul 28, 2009 10:31 AM CDT reply actions  

the blitz did the offense in

the defense was meh, and special teams were bad. but all that could have been overcome if we had just picked up the blitz. it wasn’t so much that the oline wasn’t blocking (although the right side didn’t do well) it was that they were out manned. it’s hard for 5 guys to block 7 or 8 on every single play.

the way to beat this type of blitz is short quick passes into the flat. on one drive the vikings tried this and it was successful and they didn’t try it again. remember when we had moss and culpepper would take the snap, turn and toss to moss still at the line? that play would have worked great during the second half. the cb’s were playing off and had no support because of the blitz.

the plays that would have worked just weren’t called. instead we tried to run it or throw it 20 yards and oh my gosh it didn’t work! how could that be? it’s gotta be a fluke, run it again!

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 28, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Screens

The funny thing about that, to me, is that the snap-screen is the meat and potatoes of the West Coast offense, nothing can be done to stop it and if a fast pass is caught, it’s almost guaranteed to at least not lose yardage….

But it requires the QB to be able to read the defense, pick up the blitz, and audible on the line. Three things that T-Jack is not known for.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Jul 29, 2009 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

he did it in this game when he was allowed to.

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 30, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Allowed to?

Now that’s the gold-plated question….

Is it because he isn’t allowed to do it?

Or is it because he isn’t capable of doing it?

As vogue as it is to blame T-Jack for not being able to do this or that, is it because of an inability or is it because Chilly/Bevel don’t let him do it? Is it because T-Jack is only capable of running 5 or 6 different plays, or is it because Chilly/Bevel are only allowing a short-list? What other reasons can there be? A play isn’t just the QB, either; every player has to do their bit; is it only because of T-Jack’s inability or are there other players holding back the team? Or is it a philosophy that holds with the notion that if you can do 5 or 6 things really well, that’s all you need?

I don’t know the answer, and I don’t see how any of us can know the answer; we’re just guessing.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Aug 1, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Addendum
he did it in this game when he was allowed to.

Just re-read your statement and want some clarification…

Are you saying that you saw T-Jack doing an audible and changing up a play at the line of scrimmage, in that game?

That you saw him accurately and consistently reading the defense and picking up the blitz?

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Aug 1, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

i saw him make the screen pass when it was called. it just wasn’t called very often.

by iseepurplepeople on Aug 3, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

experience

that was the key, remember our vikings havent made a trip to the post-season since 2004 and most of those players no longer are on the roster. The eagles on the other hand had the advantage of being regular post-season contenders. The good thing is that they can build off this game for the upcoming season.

sugar + water + purple

by Grape Drank on Jul 28, 2009 12:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Right call

“Coach calls 2 runs with 1:10 left and 1 to?? wtf?”

Childress was absolutely right to run the ball on first down. You guys all know just as well as I do that AP can break one anytime, anywhere. Your on your own 13 with about 1:00 minute left, giving the ball to AP to see if he can break one is not a dumb call. Just let me ask you this, do you think Jackson is the kind of QB who is going to take you guys 87 yards down the field, passing the ball the whole way, in 1 minute? I’ll answer it for you, no he’s not. He barely was allowed to call audibles, so I’m sure Childress was nervous about him running the hurry up offense, especially since he had thrown a pick 6 just 2 possessions earlier. The game was 16-14, you guys had just had a very nice drive down the field for a TD. Plus, you guys get the ball at halftime. Why risk a Jackson INT, and possibly an Eagles FG or TD?

It’s funny because had AP broken one none of you guys would be complaining about Childress’ play calling. And if he had let Jackson try and air it out, and ended up throwing a pick you guys would have been down Childress’ throat asking why he would have a QB, who a below average starter, who just threw a pick, try and lead you guys on at least a 55 yard drive with only 1 minute left and 1 timeout left.

I can’t believe I’m saying this but some of you guys are way to hard on Childress. Every time he makes a decision and it doesn’t work out, it’s like it’s all his fault. Keep in mind all he can do is make a call, it’s then up to the players to produce.

by packallday555 on Jul 28, 2009 12:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't lump me in with those that are hard on Childress

I’ve never done it, nor understood it either. I don’t think those that criticize him for his “conservative” playcalling understand that he is just trying to do what is best suited to whoever had under center (Gus or TJack).

If Favre is there this year, I fully expect (and believe) things will happen a bit differenlty.

by puddnhead on Jul 28, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right

I mean looking at this game I actually think a lot of the things Childress decided to do were indeed the right choice. It just seems like every time you guys don’t drive down the field on offense, it’s the end of the world. Defenses are going to make stops, and especially one as good as Philly. They blitzed the hell out of you guys, and your o-line and rb’s/fb’s just couldn’t pick it up. A lot of you guys have stated Childress went away from the short, quick routes, but I don’t believe that for a second, because that’s what the west coast offense is in a nut shell. Plus, the throws Jackson can make are limited, and something tells me Childress didn’t just randomly decide to start trying to throw further down field against one of the best secondaries in the league. Samuel, Brown, and Sheppard had been jumping the short slants, ins, outs, curls all game. It’s not that you guys went away from those routes, it’s just that the Eagles were playing those routes.

by packallday555 on Jul 28, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

They blitzed the hell out of you guys, and your o-line and rb’s/fb’s just couldn’t pick it up.

that’s my point! if this is the case, make a damn change in your play calling! other coaches do it all the time.

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 28, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

What change

Do you expect him to make? You guys were already running the short, quick routes. There wasn’t much Childress could do. Childress started leaving Taylor in the backfield to help block, and Shiancoe too but it didn’t help. Aside from that there really isn’t all that much you can do.

by packallday555 on Jul 28, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

we weren't running short routes.

we were trying to throw it to berrian 20 yards down the field or we were running it. in the second half when we ran the short quick routes we had some success. the rest of the time jackson was throwing 15+ yards. you can’t cover the flat when you rush 8 guys and the other 3 have to cover receivers. the flat is empty. you don’t need to pick up the blitz because the ball is gone before the blitz arrives. the vikings did this on 3 plays in the second have, one was incomplete, the other 2 went for 17 yards each. why? because the pass itself was for 3 yards but there was no in the secondary where the ball was caught. it worked 2 out of 3 times. if they’re going to keep blitzing, why wouldn’t you keep calling plays in flat?

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 28, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok

I got news for you, every single play has what’s called a “hot route”. Which is basically just a dump pass to the flats. A lot of the times the te’s, rb’s, or fb’s run the hot routes. The thing is the Eagles were bringing so much pressure that your te’s, rb’s, and fb’s had to stay and try and help block, so they couldn’t go out on a route. You were running it because you guys are a run first team. They did a good job of shutting the run down (especially in the 2nd half) and forced you guys to pass. Jackson isn’t the type of QB who is going to thrive off of throwing the ball 30+ times. To be frank, he is the kind of QB that is going to lose a game throwing the ball 30+ times, especially against a defense like the Eagles. The Eagles basically shut down every aspect of your offense. They were covering the short routes, which caused you guys to have to try and go down field. When you guys attempted to do that, they then brought the blitz making it nearly impossible to do so. The result of them blitzing also required you guys to leave more blockers back, to try and help slow the blitz down. (That resulted in you guys not having a check down option a lot of the time, and consequently leaving Jackson with not a lot to do.

The Eagles outplayed and out coached your team in the second half of the game. There wasn’t much Childress could do because the playbook was so watered down for Jackson, and the passing game. You guys just had to hope the defense and run game could lead you to victory, but in the end the Eagles were just too much, and were the better team.

by packallday555 on Jul 28, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think there were other options for childress. as soon as went down on that westbrook touchdown i take the reins off tj. what do you have to lose? the game? you already are!

why couldn’t berrian run a 5yd out? one on one with no safety help. why can only the te’s and rb’s run the check downs? that’s not west coast. when the long ball isn’t there you bring everybody in. if they have more guys at the line of scrimmage you have to have more guys under the secondary. you take the 3 yard completion, the 7 yarder. when a few of those get broken for 20 yards what happens? they have back a guy off the line. so you bring out a te when they do and you still out man them. then what? they have to back another guy off the line. that’s how you beat the blitz. once you’re at this point, then you start pounding adrian at them until they start crowding the line again. you have to have fluid play calling that adjusts to what the defense it doing.

if chilly waters down the playbook how can you say there wasn’t much he could do? how about open it up? that was something he could do.

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 28, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

if he’s that down on his own passing game, and was being careful not to have a turnover why not just take a knee? why use his timeout to preserve the clock if he’s not going to actually go for it. i’m all about adrian but the guy isn’t run for a td on every play and the eagles defense had been doing fairly well keeping him contained.

i see what you’re saying but at some point you’ve got to let the qb throw the ball. qb’s throw picks all the time but they keep throwing. by NOT passing the ball, the eagles almost got in field goal range anyway. if westbrook had made it out of bounds on the last play, the eagles would have tried a long field goal.

you have to take the whole game into consideration. how the defense is playing, how the special teams are playing. if i’m childress, i’m nervous every time the punt team takes the field.

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 28, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

“i’m all about adrian but the guy isn’t run for a td on every play and the eagles defense had been doing fairly well keeping him contained.”

I don’t think he is either. I just don’t think running on first down was a bad choice at all. I think trying to pass on second was stupid, because Jackson threw one of his many incomplete passes, and that then stopped the clock and gave the Eagles an opportunity to get the ball back again.

“you have to take the whole game into consideration. how the defense is playing, how the special teams are playing. if i’m childress, i’m nervous every time the punt team takes the field.”

Sure he is probably nervous, but what are you going to do just go for it on every 4th down? Of course not. I seem to remember there being talks about Childress wanting Kluwe to punt the ball out of bounds, and Kluwe never seemed to do it. It’s not like Childress wasn’t aware that your STs unit wasn’t good, he was fully aware of it.

by packallday555 on Jul 28, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

then why wouldn’t he just run the clock out in that situation? you need about 50 yards for a field goal. ok sure you give it one try with ap even though he led the league in fumbles. but then you don’t trust your qb to move you quickly down the field what do you? run the clock out and at worst leave them with a few seconds? no you call a time out and try to run it again. that’s just plain stupid coaching. and if we hadn’t wasted our other 2 timeouts on trivial crap earlier in the game we would have had more time.

none of that makes any sense at

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 28, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

Like I said above he should have just ran the ball 3 times and let the clock run out. He instead handled the situation horribly, but luckily it didn’t end up hurting you guys.

“ok sure you give it one try with ap even though he led the league in fumbles.”

He also led the league in rushing and ypc, and is by far the most explosive running back in the league, and maybe ever. I don’t think giving him one try is a dumb move whatsoever.

by packallday555 on Jul 28, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

no i wouldn't either

i didn’t say giving him one try is dumb. but giving him a try that fails and then trying again, and calling a timeout only preserves more time for the other team.

give him one run, then kneel on it if you want to play it safe. he did the worst possible thing and it almost burned us.

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 28, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right

That’s what he should have done.

by packallday555 on Jul 28, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Childress was absolutely right to run the ball on first down. You guys all know just as well as I do that AP can break one anytime, anywhere. Your on your own 13 with about 1:00 minute left, giving the ball to AP to see if he can break one is not a dumb call. Just let me ask you this, do you think Jackson is the kind of QB who is going to take you guys 87 yards down the field, passing the ball the whole way, in 1 minute? I’ll answer it for you, no he’s not. He barely was allowed to call audibles, so I’m sure Childress was nervous about him running the hurry up offense, especially since he had thrown a pick 6 just 2 possessions earlier.

So if Childress was smart to call a run in that situation, knowing that AP could break one at any time, then why in the last 6:37 of the 4th quarter did Chilly run AP exactly ZERO times?

Cause, if Jackson is not the guy that should take us down the field to score the winning touchdown, then why did Childress continue to call pass plays over and over and over and over and over against one of the BEST PASS DEFENSES IN THE NFL?

That is the reason I have issues with Chilly’s playcalling. Not because I am too hard on Childress, but because Childress is a freaking moron.

Seriously, I can name 20 instances off the top of my head that would make ANY fan hate Brad Childress.

by Bjorno on Jul 28, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha

You didn’t run the ball in the 4th because the Eagles completely shut down your run game in the 2nd half. I agree he should have ran the ball at least a couple times. Though you don’t usually run the ball when your down 9 points and there is only 6:37 left. You need to try and preserve all the time you can.

by packallday555 on Jul 28, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

he ran the ball a lot!

one possession in the second half was run, run, run, punt.

the problem was he ran the same plays in the second half that he did in the first. which is fine except that philly made adjustments and shut it down.

packallday i love going back and forth on this with you but you’ve really got to sit down and watch the game again. rewind some of the questionable plays and watch closer. i see what you’re saying about the game but it’s only the surface. poor game management, mediocre defense, mediocre offense and bad special teams all combined to cost us that game. change any one of the those and we win the game. it was a lot closer than the final score.

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 28, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

But I am merely using your logic from before. AP is the playmaker yet we never used him during the most important minutes in our offense.

Not even so much as a screen pass went AP’s way.

by Bjorno on Jul 28, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

we didn’t pass to adrian enough all season. why start in the playoffs.

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 28, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

“we didn’t pass to adrian enough all season. why start in the playoffs.”

This is because he is a poor pass catcher.

by packallday555 on Jul 30, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

when you’re losing in the playoffs you throw out everything and the kitchen sink.

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 30, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Disagreed

With 1:10 left on the clock, and 1 time out…. calling a run means that unless AP goes all the way, that final time out is probably going to be needed. At the least, by the time you stop the clock, there’ll be less than a minute remaining, and you still have a long way to go.

There’s only one realistic solution and you know it… whether or not T-Jack is up to it, he’s got to execute a 1 minute drill. A bomb, a side-line pass to grab a 1st down and step out or take it to the house, bomb, bomb. That’s all the time you have left, 4 plays, maybe 5. There’s no time to screw around with runs, and if T-Jack has never done it before, that would have been his big chance for some OJT. Nothing to lose at that point.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Jul 29, 2009 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

if you're going to go for it yes

if not, you might try the run once with ap and then run the clock.

one or the other, chili did neither.

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 30, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

You do two bombs, the Eagles realize that your back’s against the wall and you’re going for all the marbles, they have to pull back and cover zone-deep because if they don’t, odds are good that Berrian’s going to run under the deep-ball and take it to the house. That’s when you hand to AP and let him rip loose under the coverage, slap down your final TO. Having taught the secondary to be more honest, go back to to the bomb and depending on the Eagle’s response, you have a tactical choice to make in deciding which is more likely to get the score for the final play of the game. Assuming, of course, you haven’t scored in one of the preceding 4 plays. Yes, you’re fighting from under the blitz, but there’s ways to put a stop that crap and I’m not talking about dumping it down the center (which is a bad, bad idea in this situation – even if you connect, unless you have a Fitzgerald snagging the ball, you’re going to lose a lot of precious time). Dump it on the side-line fly where your receiver’s in full stride for the end-zone, or if the receiver thinks he’s about to get caught he can step out of bounds and stop the clock.

But what the hell do I know, I’m not paid to coach and run a pro team. Maybe my thinking is ‘stone-age’ by today’s methods and I haven’t seen something that Chilly knows.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Aug 1, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

That would have been just fine for Childress to do. Though I think airing it out is a little risky with Jackson, and the fact that Samuel had been doing a great job of covering Berrian all game. But still it would have been better then the plays he called.

by packallday555 on Aug 1, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good post

I agree our play-calling wasn’t the best, but you must also realize that Andy Reid is kind of Brads teacher. Certainly he does things differently, but Reid analyzed our teams biggest weakness and attacked it violently. It was a great game until the Westbrook touchdown in which our players got caught out of position. It was a great play-call. Hopefully Jackson in his 4th year with the system will be able to handle his duties better, and if Favre comes in, he will be able to read the blitz.

SKOL

by PurpleJesuZ on Jul 28, 2009 1:37 PM CDT reply actions  

it's a push

andy may have been brads teacher but brad was the entire offenses teacher. you would think he would have know some way to keep mcnabb from throwing for 70%.

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 28, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

I totally agree with you on that. Reid had Chilly’s number from the beginning, and Chilly knew it. He’d’ve loved to have beaten his old boss, but it wasn’t in him. Yet.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Jul 29, 2009 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

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