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That Olde-Tyme Leadership

How important is Favre to the Vikings... really? I personally think the Vikings are a 10-6 to 12-4 team this year, with Sage at the helm. I think we're headed to the playoffs even without Favre.

We're doing a lot of wrangling over whether or not Favre can throw, will his INT rate be too high, will he last through the season, can all the fans get over the old hatreds enough to get behind the team. But there's something that keeps rising in the back of my mind, the bigger, longer lasting impact on the Vikings... the impact that's going to last for years after Favre's gone.

Star-divide

 

It's something much more important than a better throwing ability that Brett Favre brings to the Vikings' table this year, something that most of them had probably forgotten about or never truely knew. He brings the experience of what's like to have a top-flight QB leading the team, calling the plays (instead of having Daddy Childress call them from the sideline), making the reads and audibling on the line of scrimmage, accepting responsibility when a drive fails, and the sheer authority with which the ball will move from his hands to whomever he's going to entrust with it. That's something that a real leader brings to the table. Whether the ball is entrusted to AP for a run, or it's entrusted to Berrian on a deep slant, the recipient is going to know, understand, feel it in their gut, that something important was just placed in their care, something beyond an inflated pigskin. The ball is just the symbol. They aren't just carrying it out of self-motivation now; the eyes of a 20 year veteran, a future hall of fame leader are on them. Failure will be more than just not making the yardage, more than just dropping a ball. Failure will be returning to the huddle and having to look into Favre's eyes and praying like hell that he'll give them another chance to redeem themselves... because he doesn't have to. He doesn't have to send the ball their way again for the rest of the game. For the rest of the season. He can send them off the field and call for a replacement in mid-drive. That's something that Jackson couldn't do, Sage couldn't do... that's what you get with a QB of Favre's caliber, he's not just ball-tossing proxy for the coach; he's the field general.

When was the last time that the Vikings had someone like that running the offense? Culpepper? Maybe. But I think C-Pep was still too young, was only starting to come into his own when got injured. No, I think we have to go back to Cunningham. And before him, it was Moon.

It's been a decade since the Vikings have been captained on the field by a real leader, and we got NO ONE who knows what that feels like any more.

Well, they're about to learn.

And just as important, they'll have a yardstick by which to measure a real QB by. There won't be any mistaking a half-baked retrofitted tail-back as an NFL caliber QB any time soon in the next few years. Sage may not be happy about not having the #1 position, but will he complain? I don't think so. Everyone on the team will know what's it like to have a real leader on the offense again, even the D will take their cue from him and be able to trust his word, and his ability.

I'm not drinking the Favre-Aid on this post... I think we'd get the same thing with a Warner, or a Garcia. Maybe not as strong with Garcia since he doesn't have the cred behind him, but it would still be there. That old-time leadership that every team in the NFL covets.

This is what we needed; a reminder and an experience, and a proper gauge for the future.

This FanPost was created by a registered user of The Daily Norseman, and does not necessarily reflect the views of the staff of the site. However, since this is a community, that view is no less important.

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That's great and all,

but who’s gonna call for Favre’s replacement when he is careless with the ball and throws an INT. Chili doesn’t have the stones to. Who does?

by KC612 on Aug 20, 2009 10:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Maybe that's one of our problems too..

A QB has a bad day, and we call for his head.

Seriously man, as a fan-base, we’ve been pretty damned harsh on our boys. Maybe we need to lighten up, and understand that everyone has a bad game (or two), and let our team work through it. Maybe starting up the “Fire Childress” chants in the stadium are a bit premature.

Pulling a QB for an INT is excessive. Call me when he exceeds 20 INTs AND we’ve lost those games. Cuz, truth to tell, he can through a hundred INTs in each game, as long as he wins them.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Aug 20, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

That is definitely one of our problems...

…if I were an athlete, coach or whatever I wouldn’t want some of these people “cheering” for me.

by KC612 on Aug 20, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

i didnt think about that
favre will be great in audibles and recognizing the defense
like you said we havent had that in a qb in a while
also now childress can use the whole playbook and expand teh field

also does anyone know if the vikes are workingi on a new and iimproved 2 minute offense under favre, instead of usual strategy of handing off twice and throwing a 5 yard pass

by YanksVikes on Aug 20, 2009 10:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Hopefully......

         he won’t be as careless with the ball, because he does’nt need to be the ol’ gunslinger anymore. Just manage the game and let A.D. do his thing. Will we see some interceptions, sure we will, but that comes with the package. I also think that we will see some big plays too. The biggest concern I have is that he might audible away from A.D. to often.

by PurpleCrush on Aug 20, 2009 10:53 AM CDT reply actions  

What I can’t wait for is when the D is in pass coverage, and Favre audibles and 3 seconds later the ball is in AP’s hands with a couple different holes for him to choose to run through.

by dsludo on Aug 20, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good post!

We are already hearing this from Shiancoe… and McKinnie.
Favre’s been here what… 2 days… and he is already commanding the huddle.
THAT, my friends is TRUE LEADERSHIP!

I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 20, 2009 11:23 AM CDT reply actions  

That just Charisma and Confidence

Leadership takes more time and is based on relationship and proven through adversity. Favre was a real leader in Green Bay, but not in New York. I have cautious optimism about him with the Vikings.

by ChemErik on Aug 20, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

uh yeah...

coupled with his understanding of the offensive scheme and his ability to come in cold and start leading the offense.

Charisma and Confidence – neither were present in Sage or TJack.

I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 20, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ever see a guy walk into a room, dead cold, no one knows who he is, and 30 seconds later he’s giving orders and people are scrambling to obey? I have. I agree that good leadership builds on itself and takes time to get deep, but a real leader can lead from minute 1. He doesn’t stop to think, “Should I try to lead these people?”, he just leads and people follow. A ‘natural leader’ knows how to do it instinctively, most leaders have to learn the art. I’m not sure which one Favre is, but he’s definitely a leader :) . As much as we’re yapping about it on the blog, I bet the Vikings are still a little stunned by it. We really do have a very young bunch of guys.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Aug 20, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

exactly!!

you’ve been rec’d.

I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 20, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good interview

Favre was looking sharp in the footage, and maybe I’m reading too much into this, but I think every one of the Viking receivers looked better too. More confident.

I think I saw an interview with that guy the other day where he said Favre had been given part of the playbook a couple months ago and had been studying, so it’s not entirely a ‘new language’ for him.

Exciting times! :)

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Aug 20, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

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