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Favre vs. Bears over the past 6-7 years

 

Why do you post AP's numbers when talking about what Brett Favre will bring to the table? How about posting Lovie's record when coaching against Brett? Or Brett's record in the past 6-7 years vs. The Bears? Wouldn't that be more relevant? How about in Week 5, when he's shelved for the year, the attitude of Tarvaris, Sage, and Josh "give me my goddamn #4 back " Booty ???? Have fun this year!! See you November 29th! My girl will be the one who weighs less than 300 lbs.



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Who cares about Lovie's record against Brett?

Lovie’s record against Brad Childress is 3-3.

Lovie’s record against Adrian Peterson is 1-3.

Ooooooooh, scorch.

Would you like to talk about the performance of Jay Cutler in games that matter? Probably not. . .it isn’t pleasant.

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by Gonzo on Aug 20, 2009 10:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Would you like to talk about the performance of Jay Cutler in games that matter

Sure let’s talk about it.

How many games has Cutler lost for Chicago that mattered?
How many games has Favre lost for Minny that mattered?

Answer for both is 0.

I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T

by Ditkavsworld on Aug 20, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So you're saying

That it has as much significance as Lovie’s record against Favre? Or Favre’s record against the Bears all-time?

Cool. . .I was pretty sure the original poster had absolutely no point and was making absolutely no sense. Just needed some confirmation.

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by Gonzo on Aug 20, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

I don’t put much stock into last year, since it’ll probably have no effect on this year. And from what I read I’m guessing the poster thought the record that Lovie has against Brett is relevant. I get where he’s going with it, however like I said earlier the past is the past.

I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T

by Ditkavsworld on Aug 21, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brett "Where's my Jazzy Mini" Favre

Maybe, come October, you can dump him if there’s a diminished skills clause in his contract.

by Delusional Bears Fan on Aug 20, 2009 10:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Does Urlacher have one of those?

Not to mention the rest of the Bears defense and lets throw in Cutler while we are at it.

http://vikingsmashfootball.wordpress.com/

by BeardedAxe on Aug 20, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Diminished Skills? Cutler?

Is marijuana really that readily available in minnesota?

by Staleystan595455 on Aug 24, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Favre vs Bears (in the last 5 years)

Name 1 Bears QB that beat Favre? I can’t. That’s how sorry his game is anymore.

by Delusional Bears Fan on Aug 20, 2009 11:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree, there has not been a Bears QB in the last 5, nay 20, years that could beat Favre.

by Bjorno on Aug 20, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

Nice to see that you took the time to register over here to troll before you bothered to sign up at WCG.

Unless, of course, you’re a WCG troll that’s already been banned from here once. . .which, quite frankly, wouldn’t surprise me one iota.

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by Gonzo on Aug 20, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW, Bjorno

That’s not directed towards you. . .stupid clicking on the wrong post to reply to. My bad there.

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by Gonzo on Aug 20, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No worries.

Obvious troll is obvious.

by Bjorno on Aug 21, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait, what?

Name one Bears QB that beat Favre? And because you can’t think of a Bears QB that beat Favre, that means his game is sorry?

scratches head

Hold on. . .I need to introduce you to my friend Jules. . .

Man, I was going to delete this. . .but stupidity like this needs to be preserved. Hell, I might even rec it to make sure nobody misses it.

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by Gonzo on Aug 20, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beat Favre

Who beat him? Was it Jim Miller? Mike Tomczak? Moses Moreno? Vince Evans? So not memorable, and yet Favre wasn’t the answer. Comical!!!

by Delusional Bears Fan on Aug 20, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude… WHAT is your arguement here??

I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 20, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought I was the only one that had no idea where this guy was going with this.

"Skol pa fiskande"

by NobleSavage on Aug 21, 2009 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah. . .

I remember when I had my first beer.

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by Gonzo on Aug 20, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DOES HE LOOK LIKE A BITCH!?

"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.

by Gonzo2 on Aug 21, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOLOL!!

Awesome graphic, Gonzo! Had to steal it for future use, that totally rocks!!!!

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Aug 22, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Favre sign deal with Life Alert

He’s fallen, and he can’t get up!!!

by Delusional Bears Fan on Aug 20, 2009 11:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

All… senior… citizens…. must… have… life…alert.

by Bjorno on Aug 20, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

McDonald's

tomorrow I’m ordering a T-Jack for lunch. Who’s with me!!

by Delusional Bears Fan on Aug 20, 2009 11:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is the limited edition Cutler endorsed

Whaaaburger and French Cries not on the menue anymore?

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by BeardedAxe on Aug 20, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm guessing...

That this post is getting ignored…

because what your saying is completely non-sequitur…

my this fan post whither and die…

I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 20, 2009 11:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Quiz question for Viking's Fans

Who won more playoff games last year, the 0-16 Detroit Lions OR the Minnesota Vikiings? ps It’s a trick question – they won the same number of palyoff games – 0

by Delusional Bears Fan on Aug 20, 2009 11:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How many playoff games did the bears win again?

Oh wait they blew it against the Texans. What a shame.

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by BeardedAxe on Aug 20, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who played in more playoff games last year?

The 0-16 Lions or the 9-7 Bears?

Oooooooooooooooooh. . .again with the trick questions!

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by Gonzo on Aug 20, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gambling

Yes, that pathetic home loss to Philly last year. That was a real building block for your Vikings, wasn’t it??

by Delusional Bears Fan on Aug 20, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha

yeah yeah yeah, Vikes lost to the Eagles. . .
Vikes made the playoffs, QB play collapsed on us T-Jack couldn’t handle it. . .so what did we do?
we got a QB!
what the heck is so wrong about that?
I honestly don’t know why I’m commenting on this, “it’s like having a conversation with a dining room table”
tell me someone know’s that reference. . .please

by MikeyBtha612g on Aug 21, 2009 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Barney?

Not the purple dinosaur, but the political one who is so “Frank”.

by Odin on Aug 21, 2009 4:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could be worse

you could be in Napa having a conversation with a conference table.

"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB

by icarr0331 on Aug 21, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have no argument...

As a Bears fan. You hit a brick wall called Houston last season, and didn’t even make it to the post-season. The Vikings played extra football, and learned from it….. we’re sorry you didn’t get that chance.

However, I’m guessing the Bears will learn from their mistakes right around the middle of this upcoming season when panic mode ensues from the realization you traded away first round draft picks for a bust. What will you do then? I chalk that up to AT LEAST two more seasons of the Vikings record dominating the Bears.

by Figgs on Aug 21, 2009 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vikings # of seasons dominating Bears

          V-B
2003 1-1
2004 1-1
2005 1-1**
2006 0-2
2007 2-0
2008 1-1

So over the past 6 years the Bears and Vikings have a 6-6 record, even though some people would argue it’s closer to a 5-7** record in favor of the Bears.

I chalk that up to AT LEAST two more seasons of the Vikings record dominating the Bears.

So how exactly have the Vikings been dominating as you put it, the Bears? All that matters to me is the W-L record. I think that overall the Vikings are really good, but if the Bears Defense returns to form there is no doubt that the Bears have a much better defense.

That’s a strong If, but so far after training camp and preseason (which really means very little) the Bears D looks like it’s back into shape.

**The second game which the Bears lost was a throwaway game as they had already clinched the NFC North. Most Starters were pulled after 2 drives and scrubs were put in.

If you want to crown em...

by JohnnyTruant on Aug 24, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I chalk that up to AT LEAST two more seasons of the Vikings record dominating the Bears.

i don’t see where that says head to head. record. as in we had a better win/loss record than the bears so we won the division and went to the playoffs while the bears just went home. that kind of record.

by iseepurplepeople on Aug 25, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol, you are really stretching now

it says dominating the Bears. If he meant dominating the division he should have said so.

 Team A. NFC North Champions twice and NFC Conference Champions with an overall record of 40-24. Playoff record of 2-2.

Team B. NFC North Champions once with an overall record of 33-31. Playoff record of 0-1.

Which team looks better? Which team is “dominating?”

went to the playoffs while the bears just went home.

but your playoff record is not as good as the Bears.

You did have a better win loss record than us last year, but I would hardly call winning 1 game more then losing the Wild Card game “Dominating”

If you want to crown em...

by JohnnyTruant on Aug 25, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

in the last 7 seasons, the bears have finished ahead of the vikings 2 times.

that means the vikings have finished ahead of the bears 5 times.

so, we have dominated the bears. and will continue to do so for the forseeable future.

by iseepurplepeople on Aug 27, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ex-employees

Matt Birk and Darren Sharper wish Brett all the best. We’re on a boat trip right now on Minnetonka. Jared Allen is driving. Fun stuff!! Moss will be here after bar close.

by Delusional Bears Fan on Aug 20, 2009 11:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And I just shipped Culter

A case of sugar cookies. So back the frack off because he needs air in his diabetic induced coma.

by Jepp The Viking on Aug 20, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is thre any point to any of this?

I confess I can’t see it. You just seem to be typing whatever random thought that comes into your head that might be insulting?

by puddnhead on Aug 20, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last season's Viking's fan delusions

Ahhh, it was only 12 short months ago that Vikings fans thought Tarvaris was “gonna be good this year, AP will be MVP, and we at least make it to the NFC Championship.” Remeber??

by Delusional Bears Fan on Aug 20, 2009 11:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Do you remember

When the Bears were relevant? I guess Doc needed more greasy chicago style pizza for his Mr. Fusion because I don’t see this rusty Delorian of a football team getting anywhere near 88mph.

by Jepp The Viking on Aug 20, 2009 11:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

1 Year Ago

Remember what you were thinking last year at this time about the Vikings and the upcoming season??

by Delusional Bears Fan on Aug 20, 2009 11:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Like when

We all said we were a legit QB away from being a serious powerhouse? And now when we have that QB and I just called AD to stop running sprints up and down Soldier Field because we need him for a series this Friday.

by Jepp The Viking on Aug 20, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

High School

This “man” hasn’t thrown to anybody beyond a high schooler since he ruined and alienated the entire NY Jets organization last December. He is playing this whole organization for the $$$. Who can lucidly and intelligently refute that??

by Delusional Bears Fan on Aug 20, 2009 11:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Becasue

He is making the league average for a QB his age and already has more money than God? How about that Moses’ Ark full of draft picks that you guys gave up for a QB whos claim to fame is letting his team blow a 4 game division lead to the Chargers while crying about being shopped around?

by Jepp The Viking on Aug 20, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sir

This is trolling. You are giving the rest of us a bad name. Please stop.

I'm teaching fools some basic rules.- MR.T

by Ditkavsworld on Aug 20, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, believe me

He’s stopped.

Not because he wanted to or anything. . .but he’s stopped.

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by Gonzo on Aug 20, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

hehehehe…

I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 20, 2009 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never got the chance to ask him if the things he said made sense to him, because they didn’t to anyone else and that is the first sign of a psychopath.

Jared Allen is to football what Jason Voorhees is to Lake Crystal.
Percy Harvin is Devin Hester, except someone very smart decided to teach him how to catch and run routes.

by SDviking on Aug 21, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well his name was delusional bears fan

by iseepurplepeople on Aug 25, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we can see that you are struggling with lucidity and intelligence tonite...

Favre has been throwing to to Minnesota Vikings players for most of the week.
And the reports coming out of practice are that he is SHARP and his passes have ZIP and ACCURACY.

Maybe you should remember to take your lithium tonite and tune into the Vikings game tomorrow…

Then you can see for yourself that Brett is ready to lead the Vikings.

I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 20, 2009 11:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I have my doubts

As to whether or not this guy is smart enough for satire. Or whether he could even spell “satire,” given the first three or four letters.

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by Gonzo on Aug 21, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

make it the first 5 and i’ll take the bet!

by iseepurplepeople on Aug 25, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

His Name said it all

Delusional is the key word here guys!!

by mommydee on Aug 21, 2009 11:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I can't remember the last time...

I came to the aid of a freakin Bears fan but there were 46 posts in response to his point and NONE of them had any kind of legit response. Lovie knows how to shake Favre up. When he came to Chicago he said that was his first goal was to beat the packers and the way you did that was to get Favre to throw picks. It worked…it sucked…it was frustrating.

by TrevorR on Aug 21, 2009 11:39 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

because when part of your “point” is this…

My girl will be the one who weighs less than 300 lbs.

you don’t really deserve any sort of “legit response”.

If you can't laugh at yourself... Who can you laugh at?
The Packers, that’s who.
-- The almighty Manimal

by TheViking83 on Aug 22, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it could be his first girlfriend to weigh less than 300 and he’s really proud of that.

by iseepurplepeople on Aug 25, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

hehehe...

made me snort. +1

I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 25, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's probably from Milwaukee

and doesn’t realize that it’s not that unusual in other places.

"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST

by JerBear50 on Aug 29, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a Bears fan

I’d suggest you have a point, and a good argument to back that point up when coming onto DN or any other foes’ blog. How about using some stats like from this article

When you claim something, make sure to have some facts to back it up.

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

by propheteer on Aug 22, 2009 12:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Right

Had he presented his points in a different way it would have been fine. Because I sure as hell know myself since Lovie has arrived the Packers have struggled against the Bears as well as Favre.

by packallday555 on Aug 22, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, grammar fail and redundancy.

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

by propheteer on Aug 22, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mr. Delusional Bears Fan

what you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response, were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

by ortonhearsab00 on Aug 25, 2009 9:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Classic

Billy Madison clip.

Hopefully, Vike fans won’t believe all Bear fans are this “special.”

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

by propheteer on Aug 25, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha

Gotta love Billy Madison.

by packallday555 on Aug 25, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Insecurities

Bears and Packers fans are all insecure over this Favre matter. A few weeks ago it was “omg you didn’t get Favre you’re doomed” and now it is “omg you got Favre you’re doomed”.

Gus Frerotte: 8-3
TJack + Gus + TJack: 10-7
Brett Favre: ??

I’m pumped. The Vikes look damned good on paper and this point in the preseason paper is all we have to go by. There is no way logically that the Bears or Packers fans have more to be excited about regarding their teams this season. Bears maybe since they upgraded but I don’t see where Packers fans get off thinking their 6-10 team is entitled to double the wins just “because”.

Let’s revisit this whole discussion after week 4.

by Sand0 on Aug 26, 2009 7:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t see why Packers fans wouldn’t think we would have a winning record. Two years ago we were 13-3. The reason we went 6-10 was because we lost Barnett, Harris, Jenkins, Collins, and Bigby. That would be like you guys losing P. Williams, Henderson, Winfield, M. Williams, and T. Johnson. I’m pretty sure your defense would have suffered a major decline as well. We have everyone of those players back healthy, plus 2 1st round picks who have a great deal of potential. The only thing in question is our switch to the 3-4. We have looked great in it so far, ya it’s only preseason but we’ve been doing all the things we had hoped it would when it was implemented. The STs has also been improved, and the offense is looking to be even better this year with an improved Rodgers, an 100% healthy Grant, and a 100% healthy James Jones. I don’t necessarily think we will double our wins from last year, but I do think we’re capable of it. I would guess our wins will be somewhere from 8-12. With the deciding factor probably being how we perform in our in division games.

Some Vikes fans seem to think because you have Favre your going to walk through the divison, and for that matter through the playoffs. That is not going to be the case. We will be MUCH better as well as the Bears, and Lions. We could have the best division in the league this next year, and if not probably the 2nd best. You guys have questions on the o-line and in the passing defense. I know many of you will argue against that but it really is the case. You don’t know how well Loadholt will do pass blocking, and for that matter you don’t know how well Sullivan will be either. Your pass defense was iffy last year, and losing Sharper this year doesn’t help anything. Griffin is still questionable in coverage, and if Winfield’s play starts to decline this year, it would doom the secondary. (Though I don’t think he will)

I’m not directing this all at you Sand0, more so just the Vikes fans that seem to feel they are going to be 14-2+, and are going to walk through the playoffs, and then win the SB. It seems a lot of the time that though one team ( 08’ Vikings) is considerably better then another (08’ Lions) they still are on a pretty even level when they play each other. Just using you guys as an example, not trying to knock you guys one bit. Our team of 07’ struggled against the 07’ Bears, though I would say we were much more talented then they were.

by packallday555 on Aug 27, 2009 1:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually, in our playoff game we didn’t have p. williams, henderson, or t johnson and m. williams missed the first 7 games. only winfield played the whole season

so i’d like to think we be okay if something like happned. full strength? no, but okay.

as for the rest of your post. we’ve had those discussions so i won’t go there ;)

by iseepurplepeople on Aug 27, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You lost Grant too

In the sense that the 2008 Grant was not the 2007 Grant. In the sense that once other teams had film on him, he started to look very ordinary. In the sense that 2008 was a continuation of what he did in the 2007 NFC championship game: very little. In the sense that his career trajectory is starting to look unnervingly (for you) similiar to Gado. The only difference being your previous GM did not go and hand Gado a huge contract.

If you want to talk yourself into believing that Grant was hurt the entire 2008 season, that the ~5 games at the end of 2007 was the “real” Ryan, and what he did the rest of 2007, and in 2008 & in 2006 with Giants was the “exception”, that he is really worth what you guys are paying him, then go right ahead. Some of us are more skeptical though.

by puddnhead on Aug 28, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

“If you want to talk yourself into believing that Grant was hurt the entire 2008 season, that the ~5 games at the end of 2007 was the "real" Ryan, and what he did the rest of 2007, and in 2008 & in 2006 with Giants was the "exception", that he is really worth what you guys are paying him, then go right ahead. Some of us are more skeptical though.”

I don’t think he was hurt the entire season. I do have some confidence in him though because of what he acheived in 07’, and the end of 08’ for that matter. In 9 games in 07’, he rushed for almost 1,000 yards…that’s pretty darn good. I don’t know about all this talk of him “surprising” people either, and his play going down because people have tape on him. The fact is you don’t come in and average 100+ yards a game if you don’t have any abiltity. And as far as the the tape issue goes, I’m not sure how much it would help you for a RB. It would help for a QB, but it’s not like RBs have all the options QBs do when their number is called. I guess you could look at certain plays we tend to run more, but that would be more so scouting our coaches not the RB. All the RB does, is generally run where the play is inteneded to be ran too.

I’m not trying to make an excuse for Grant’s underacheivements last year either. But he missed nearly all of training camp because of his holdout. As history has indicated too us, players who hold out and miss a lot or all of training camp, tend to get off to a slower start in the regular season. Too add to that, when he finally did show up, he showed up in bad shape, and with a hamstring injury. He started off the year slow, though he did have a good game against the best run defense in the league week 1. There were many quotes from him and the coaches talking about how is hamstring injury was still bugging him. Could it have been an excuse? Ya, it sure could of but who knows. When he said he felt 100% again, which was week 9, he played noticeably better. He ended the year playing good, and was 2nd in rushing yards from week 9-week 17. I guess all those weeks could have been a fluke, but because of how things turned out, and the fact that I’m a Packers supporter, I tend to believe him when he said he was still being bothered by his hammy for the first half of the season.

This year, he attened training camp, and is said to be in “the best shape of his life”. He has performed well in both of our preseason games, ( which he sure as hell did not do last preseason). We also have our o-line healthy, and all figured out. There are no excuses for him this year, and this season will indicate whether Grant is the one of late 07’ or the one of early 08’.

by packallday555 on Aug 28, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey, just want to give you props

… for a good reply. Didn’t realize he did that well wks 9-17. I’m still a bit shocked packers gave him such a fat contract a year ago, on less than half season of evidence, but you are right, if he does well this year, it will end up looking smart. Time will tell. It doesn’t sound like the weekend’s preseason game went very far to answer anything though, Grant only got 5 carries? Any reason for that?

And Rodgers? Wow. Let me say that, as much as I think Favre still had something left to give after what he did in 2007, I can understand why “the train left the station.” Must be nice to have all those options. I think you guys should cut Favre some more slack though. Yeah, it was probably a better move to go with Rodgers. But that doesn’t mean it would have been a bad move to stick with Favre. Just a “less good” move. Favre clearly could still play, 2007 proved that. You guys (some of your fellow fans) should just concede that, and then recognizing he could still play, let him still play in peace, and stop with all the “Judas” stuff. You guys just end up looking like whiny exes doing that stuff.

by puddnhead on Aug 31, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

All of us (fans) were shocked about the contract Grant was given that big of a contract. I don’t think having half of a great season warrants the contract he got, but he made it clear he was going to hold out if he didn’t get that contract. He was by far our best RB, and looked great the past year so TT probably just decided to give in.

He hasn’t done a whole lot in any of our preseason games yet. He has averaged like 4-5 carries a game so far. He has looked good thus far though. He seems to be running hard, and is falling forward for 2-3 yards pretty much everytime he is tackled (which he didn’t ever do last year). I would say he isn’t getting a ton of carries because, we’re trying to decide between 4 other RBs. So the ones who are on the bubble are getting more action.

I just want to start off by saying I agree Favre had good play left in him after 07’. I don’t think it would have been a bad move to stick with Favre either, but after he retired in March, we had committed to Rodgers. So Favre had to have known trying to come back in July, after we had been committed to Rodgers for 4 months wasn’t going to fly. We weren’t just going to screw Rodgers. We told him he could come in and compete with Rodgers, and while that seemed ridiculous at the time, Rodgers proved himself in the 08’ season.

I personally liked the way our organization handled the situation. I know what Favre was to our team, but it wasn’t like Rodgers was just some 6th round pick or something. He was a 1st round draft choice for us, and when we did draft him, we had every intention of having him become our franchise QB after Favre was gone. Rodgers had also come in for Favre in our Dallas game that year after Favre hurt his arm, and really had an outstanding game. He went 20 for 26, with 201 yards, a TD, and 30 yards rushing. The fact that he came in, and kept us in the game, against probably the 2nd best team in the league at that time, was pretty impressive, and TT had to have loved what he saw.

I can respect that Favre still wants to play, and your organization was willing to give him that chance. The problem I have is the constant lying, and then the whining when people don’t give in to whatever he wants. But I can accept he is on the Vikes now, and can’t wait til week 4!

by packallday555 on Aug 31, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think if your GM hadn’t pulled a fast one on Favre — trading him to the Jets without even telling him they were doing it, after they had seemed to have found a “mutually agreeable solution” to let him go to a warm-weather West Coast offense team, aka Tampa … then things would have gone much better. The Jets were not warm weather, they did not run the West Coast. And what was the deal with not even telling him he was traded, he had to find out by hearing it on SportsCenter?

I’m sorry, that part was not handled well. Your GM had the acceptable compromise in hand, and he jetisioned it & pissed Favre off again … for what, a slightly better draft pick in trade, and reduced likelihood of having to play him (oops, did THAT ever backfire!)

It just was not worth it, you don’t treat the longtime beloved face of your franchise like that. The 49ers let Montana essentially pick his new team in the Chiefs, and even accepted that they would have to later play against him in doing it. Ted Thompson should have handled things with the class and straightforwardness that Bill Walsh had, and this Packer nightmare would have never come to pass, I bet Favre would have just retired as a Buc & never worn purple. Yeah yeah I know the Chiefs were AFC, but …. come on.

by puddnhead on Aug 31, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if i’m gm i get the best deal i can. even if it’s only a slighty better draft pick. that’s a gms job. if a player doesn’t like it, too damn bad. it’s a business.

if the packers shouldn’t treat a longtime beloved face of the franchise like that, then we as viking fans shouldn’t accept a longtime bitter rival so easily.

additionally, this is the packers we’re talking about so class doesn’t really come into the discussion.

by iseepurplepeople on Sep 1, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

“additionally, this is the packers we’re talking about so class doesn’t really come into the discussion.”

Ha as a Vikes fans I don’t think class is something you want to talk about. I guess when I think about your organization as a whole, class is not the first word I think of…or the second, third, fourth, and so-on.

by packallday555 on Sep 1, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The job of the GM is to do what is best for the business. Some might say that splitting the fanbase into a civil war, where some actively booed the new QB at practices, and pissing off your #1 merchandising horse of all time, all for a little bit better draft pick, was not good for business.

Next I suppose you are going to tell me that Bill Walsh was a terrible GM because he chose a different approach.

by puddnhead on Sep 1, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It might not have been best for business, but it was the best move for the TEAM, and that’s ultimately #1.

by packallday555 on Sep 1, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

last i saw the packers (team and business) are doing just fine. i don’t hear anyone booing rodgers this year do you? sometimes you just have to rip the bandaid off quickly.

by iseepurplepeople on Sep 2, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As far as the trade to the Jets goes, I guess I don’t know a whole lot about it. We were in talks with the Bucs and Jets. I’m sure the Jets offered us a better deal then the Bucs were willing to, and for that reason we traded him there. I agree not telling him we were doing the trade was the wrong thing to do.

Both sides could have handled the situation better then they did, but everything seems to have worked out the way both parties wanted. Favre is now with the Vikes, which he has wanted since the 07’ offseason and we got to see our franchise QB come in and play very well.

by packallday555 on Sep 1, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You should read up on it then

Maybe there was some embargo against this news in Wisconsin or something? Maybe you guys in Green Bay don’t realize that the rest of the league does not see this as your finest hour.

link

by puddnhead on Sep 1, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Live in MN

Bottom line is, TT made the move that was best for our team. He could have handled a bit differently, but Favre whining like a teenage girl when we wouldn’t just drop everything we had been working on for 5 months, and accept him back as the starter was ridiculous. It turned a lot of the fans against Rodgers, who did absolutely nothing wrong. People were outside of camp booing him. Too me that’s ridiculous, and Favre stirred those people up.

I’ve had this talk with too many people, and it’s just my opinion that Favre was more in the wrong here then TT was. I can and have accepted that he is now a Vike, and I have no problem with it. I’m happy with how TT’s decision to go with Rodgers has turned out, and so far is looks to be the right one. Rodgers is quickly becoming an elite QB in this league, and I’m excited to see what he can accomplish over his career with us.

by packallday555 on Sep 1, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that is all true

but it has nothing to do0 with sending him to the Jets instead of Tampa. Two wrongs do not make a right, and anyway, Favre was being paid to be smart and good ON the field, not off. Your GM, however, is paid for doing right things off the field. He has done a lot of things right. But not that time. Just being a bit less in the wrong than a player is not good enough.

Just my opinion.

by puddnhead on Sep 1, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how is sending him to tampa a right and sending him to the jets a wrong?

favre asked for a trade. favre got a trade. a lot of times players don’t know where they’ll end up in a trade until the last minute. that’s no unusual.

by iseepurplepeople on Sep 2, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He got what he wanted

He wanted to be traded and we granted him that. We shopped him around, and the Jets and Bucs were the two teams that showed interest. The Jets were probably willing to give us a better deal then the Bucs. It’s a business and obviously we’re going to accept the best deal we can get. The fact that we played the Bucs last year probably had a part in us not trading him to Jets.

The Jets were willing to give us a 1st rounder if they made the playoffs, 2nd rounder if they won like 8 or more games, and he played in like 75% of the games, and so on. Plus, they were willing to give us 3 1st rounders if they turned around and traded him to you guys. They gave us the best dead, so we traded him there.

by packallday555 on Sep 2, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Left off the list

of that 13-3 team of the pack was one #4…he was also gone last season..I feel that had and impact on the team as well….Suddenly Ole MM had to coach the O….maybe that also explains the 6-10 record.

by vikefan1969 on Aug 29, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh

If you look at what we did on offense in 07’ compared to 08’, there is really no difference. We averaged < 1 point per game (like .8 or something), and Rodgers had pretty identical numbers to Favre. We also had more rushing yards. The injuries just killed us, because there are big talent drop offs at some positions (LB, D-line, FS and SS). It could have impacted the season a little bit, but I think it was pretty minimal.

by packallday555 on Aug 30, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1 to packallday555

The Packers do look a lot better than I was hoping that they would so far. The offense is obviously clicking, and the D looks solid, albeit against questionable offenses the first 2 weeks… The NFC North is going to be a fight any way you shake it unless GB or Chi lose QB’s…

by ctowner35 on Sep 2, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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