T-Jack Turnaround? Well...
by Anthony21 on Aug 22, 2009 12:00 AM CDT
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PrintHis stat line was impressive: 12/15, 202 yards, two touchdowns. People are understandably pleased with how Tarvaris Jackson performed against the Chiefs. After a tough-to-watch preseason debut in Indianapolis, the rebound he pulled off on Friday night was surprising. Or was it?
Let's take a look at the difference between this week's game and last week's game. Last week, T-Jack was in the middle of a quarterback competition. This week, the quarterback competition had been thrown out the window. Last week, the pressure was on him to excel, especially after Sage Rosenfels opened the game with two stellar drives. This week, that pressure was gone -- there was no quarterback he needed to keep pace with.
In other words, Friday's game reinforced something we already knew about T-Jack: He has difficulty handling the pressure associated with being a starter. But when that pressure's off, he's an undeniably solid quarterback.
Indeed, It makes perfect sense that he put up huge numbers when the burden of a quarterback competition had been lifted. He's simply never been able to handle the psychological aspects of being a starting quarterback. He's lacked the confidence needed to start.
Another issue entirely is whether the Vikings should look to deal or retain Jackson based on what they saw on Friday. I think one preseason game is flimsy evidence for keeping a player, but I will say this: It's hard to argue with a perfect quarterback rating. And I like T-Jack much more as a backup or third-string quarterback than a starting quarterback. If they keep him and he's suddenly put in the game, he won't have time to think before entering the field. That's the key. He can't psyche himself out.
Are the Vikings really willing to keep four quarterbacks? That remains to be seen, as some tough decisions will need to be made in the days and weeks ahead. But for those wanting to keep him, he made a good case tonight. It underscores the fact that Jackson could be a pretty good quarterback coming off the bench -- and maintaining some depth at the position is obviously an attractive option when your starter will be turning 40 in October.
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I agree...
Having both wouldn’t be too bad. If T-Jack wants to stay, it’s hard to argue with what we saw.
True...
But, again, if he becomes starter again, will he revert back the the T.J. of old? Sadly, think he would. After last season, and before I became a member here, I felt it was time to move on after 3 seasons and my feeling is, even if Favre works out or should have stayed retired, he is going to be out of here.
"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk"
by VikesFaninNM on Aug 22, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
So funny - Vikings fans are so lame
Is there anyone in your state that can write?
by Duck99 on Aug 22, 2009 12:04 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
WHOA!
slow your roll………I’m a Bears fan currently in MI but originally from Naperville, IL. Damn my Wife but thats my cross to bear!!!!!!!
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Oh well, looks at it this way Anthony, Duck will be the whining right after Cutler starts his whining along with the rest of the aging Bears whose defense is on the decline since they like using museum pieces instead of upgrading.
"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk"
by VikesFaninNM on Aug 22, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I feel your pain. We may differ when it comes to the teams we cheer for, but we both suffer in the same lousy state.
In AP I trust
F-A-R-V-A =/= F-A-V-R-E
Charles Woodson is the happiest person on earth right now.
by FarvaForTheVikings on Aug 22, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
woa. . .
it’s getting old having anti-vikings football fans rip on the intelligence of Minnesotans. . .we’re talking football here, it’s not really that much of a prerequisite of Sports Nations to have a paid editor next to you so your posts are perfect. Honestly, if your gunna comment, comment about the ideas in the article and try not to be ridiculous and border line offensive. . .
by MikeyBtha612g on Aug 22, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
He's trying to get a rise out of people
Seriously, just ignore it. Let him think he’s clever.
Yea, just ignore him.
We can just enjoy the fact that the state of Minnesota has the highest literacy rate and is one of the most educated states in the country.
Based on average IQ scores, we are fifth in the nation behind states like Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Vermont. Illinois, on the other hand, consistently ranks in the thirties on both measures.
Yet, we are stupid.
by Bjorno on Aug 22, 2009 10:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Pressure?
I think he’s got more pressure now. The pressure of keeping a job with the Vikings.
by CanadianViking on Aug 22, 2009 12:09 AM CDT reply actions
Agreed.
Though I’m not sure the pressure was quite as intense as it might have been last January against the Eagles. I think Anthony’s main conclusion is correct. T-Jack has flashes of brilliance, but can’t come through in the clutch. Given that shortcoming, I still say keep him over Booty.
Purple is the new black.
Well, I’d argue that it’s a much different kind of pressure — pressure T-Jack can handle much better than the pressure of starting. Last week, he was battling for a starting job. This week, he doesn’t know if he’ll be traded to another team or if he’ll remain with the Vikings. The burden of battling for a starting job was lifted, and if he isn’t the backup or third-stringer here, he’ll have that role somewhere else.
Good Points.
Starting quarterback is a different type of pressure. Maybe he doesn’t stand up well to that kind of pressure but he has managed a decent win-loss record for a flawed quarterback. And I wouldn’t discount the pressure of losing his job with the Vikings. If he does leave Minnesota he will probably have to wait a long time to have such a strong supporting cast around him. Just thinking ahead to next year.
by CanadianViking on Aug 22, 2009 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not sold yet...
He’s had so much time… he should be better than he is.
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 22, 2009 12:12 AM CDT reply actions
Favre’s had 19 years and can “teach this offense.” He should’ve been better than he is. TJ is in his 4th season and compiled a perfect QB rating last night.
by JasonAve6413 on Aug 22, 2009 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I’m sorry but this is a bad argument.
He has less pressure? Now, he’s fighting for a job in the league right now. He’s facing almost certain obscurity if he fails in Minnesota.
Everyone rushes to knock the guy but every time he succeeds there is some excuse for it. This is a preseason game so whatever we say is already pretty worthless but to say that he can’t “psychologically handle pressure”? Come on. You’ve never talked to the guy in your life? You don’t know him. You know nothing about him. You’re making an observation about a player by sitting in your chair and watching the game.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
Well, he handled the pressure so well against the Eagles last season. He handled the pressure so well against the Colts last week. He handled the pressure so well in the first two weeks of the 2008 season.
What other conclusion could I possibly draw? He played horribly in those situations. He played well against the Chiefs — when becoming the starter was out of the question. He played well when he was suddenly called off the bench last season. This is all coincidental? C’mon now. And this pressure absolutely cannot be compared to the pressure of being a starting quarterback in the NFL.
Brett handled the pressure fantastically in his last five games.
Brett was great against the Giants in the NFC championship game.
Brett looked phenomenal in his December and January games in the past five years.
Conclusion: Brett cannot handle the pressure of being an NFL QB in the last two months of the season.
See how much fun it is to pick out certain games?
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
I'm not picking out certain games.
I’m looking at T-Jack’s entire body of work between last season and now.
So against the Lions and Arizona he faced no pressure in those games what-so-ever?
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
First of all, we’re talking about the Lions — a historically bad team. His performance did deteriorate after the great Cards game, culminating in the meltdown against Philly. If you have another theory, that’s fine — but explaining the difference between this week and last week as dumb luck doesn’t work for me.
Whoa!!!! didnt this conversation end at the mention of the LIONS?
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
How about one being the first week of action and his first game possibly still playing with his injury?
How about him just having one bad game? I’m willing to believe it happens from time to time.
Humor me, who was leading that Lions game when Jackson came in? I mean sure it’s three points but was there really no pressure on Jackson? You want to say that?
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
0-16
He played well, but we’re talking about the Lions here. Was there pressure? Sure. Am I surprised he excelled? Of course not. Spergon Wynn could have put up solid numbers on that defense. And besides, those are the kinds of situations I’m arguing he’s well-equipped for. He was suddenly put into the game after Frerotte went down.
But you’re also calling him a mental midget at the same time.
He’s a large reason why the Vikings made the playoffs. I mean him and the collapse of the rest of the NFC. There wasn’t pressure during those weeks?
Anthony, you know damn well there is pressure on you every time you step on the field. To say otherwise is straight bullshit. This isn’t intramurals or the Canadian Football League. This is the NFL. If you aren’t feeling pressure, then you’re just dead.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
Not quite my point
My point isn’t that T-Jack can’t handle pressure. He can. As we just saw, he was able to handle the pressure of battling for a spot on this team. He can come off the bench and handle that pressure. Saying that I’m calling him a mental midget is a distortion of my argument. My point is simple: As a starting quarterback, he often seems to psyche himself out. That’s why I see him as an extremely effective backup.
More than anything I think that he just needs to believe in himself. I don’t think he does. I’m not sure how he could with all of the stuff he’s dealt with in the past few years. But yes, he’ll be a great back-up. Good Favre insurance.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
Alright, I think we ended up in basic agreement on this. I think you’re absolutely on target there — I’ve also suspected confidence issues in T-Jack. I sure as hell wouldn’t blame him if he did.
Ok but how'd those boo's I heard about make him feel about his skills?
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
I also heard those. Were they booing the fact that Favre was taken out of the game rather than booing Jackson? I sure hope that was the case, even though there was no reason to boo after Favre played for two drives.
Ah......
Damn it seems other teams in the division have also expeienced that same thing……..what do you think the reason was?
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
had to jump in here
could it be that after a number of good outings that TJak becomes compacent and then some things start going wrong and he isn’t mentally prepared to make the proper corrections?
40 is not the age you want to be when you're thinking about making a comeback in the NFL,,,,,,
Can he do it? Time will tell…….is time and history in his favor?,,,,,,,,NO
But how sweet will it be if he pulls it off?????
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Yeah, second half against the eagles was ugly. Can’t deny that, but my argument is just that we should hold on to him this year instead of getting a crappy late round pick for him. I think he’s only started around seventeen games in his career and has gradually improved over time. I don’t care if he’s second or third string this year but I think it would be a waste to ditch him now when we’ll be looking at Sage and Booty being our Qb battle next year.
by CanadianViking on Aug 22, 2009 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Ok I'm an outsider do you think T-Jax will be the odd man out?
especially after that performance?
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Forgive me, Fermentation has effected me.
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Not until we know how Sage’s ankle is coming along…
but yeah… TJ should be further along than he is…
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 22, 2009 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions
How many different times in this thread will you insert your belief that Jackson should be farther along than he is? I’m guessing four.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
WHoa!!!!!
He’s performed better then I would have thought Texy Rexy would have this early in his career
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
twice... actually.
how many chances does he get? do we keep playing and developing him?
at this rate… he’ll be ‘great’ when our greatest weapon is wore out.
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 22, 2009 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Better then him being great two yrs after your great is wore out....no?
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Booty
Looked no worse than Jackson tonite with fewer reps.
I don’t think Childress will part with his pet project though.
I’d like to see Jackson be better… but the rest of the team is built to win now and I don’t think we can wait any longer.
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 22, 2009 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I missed the game due to regional broadcasts.....enlighten me........
USC Qb’s have more to prove then T-Jax, No?
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
I'll take my lumps...
but I thought it looked like he was actually making his reads and hitting the receivers with timing.
Jackson showed some of that, but I thought he had happy feet and wasn’t comfortable with the pocket.
Booty looked like he was comfortable back there… Jackson, not so much.
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 22, 2009 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions
OK again I didnt see the game.....caught snips
small QB’s, hands, feet(JDB), whatever, USC? you can draft a USC QB every year….No?
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
You have to at least give Jackson a little credit on the Reynaud pass. That was purty.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
it was...
was his best read of the night, and the defender went bust.
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 22, 2009 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions
It would be ugly to say "I was Wrong"
Come on is he not fighting for a contract, somewhere? That is if his, or rather Ziggy’s pet project fails? Who honestly thinks those #4 Jersys would be where they needed to be in the quantity that they needed to be without prior approval?
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Hence, the reason we signed Favre.
Jackson is a solid back up option with tremendous upside. It would be foolish to give up on him, even if he is developing slower than we would like.
Favre is only going to play a year tops. Then we need someone to take over. The battle between Sage and Tjack should continue while Fave leads us to a chance at the Super Bowl.
by Bjorno on Aug 22, 2009 10:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Excellent! While I am a Bears Fan........
To CYA you should Keep Chilli from letting him go…………… To dangerous at this point, No?
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Should he?
How long has he had the opportunity to sit the bench behind greatness?
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Further along than a perfect QB rating? C’mon.
by JasonAve6413 on Aug 22, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Anthony, I back you up completely on this one.
The “pressure” on Tarvaris of being traded to another team after he’s been jilted by the team he’s on, and after already receiving interest from the CFL just above the border to the tune of $3 mil/year, is absolutely nil compared with the real pressure of having a sleak, Rolls Royce team’s whole weight of success or failure upon your shoulders—especially after having let same team down two years in a row in playoff situations (I’m counting the Redskins game two years ago as a playoff game, or at least a playoff-type-situation game).
Tarvaris looked great tonight, but he also looked great in last year’s preseason before his monumental flop at the beginning of the year—and then he started to look good again before his flop against the Eagles in the playoffs.
Freud could call this one without skipping a beat.
Thus I salute the fortress,
Safe from terror and dread.
Wife, follow me
and dwell with me in Valhalla!
by Franciscan Viking on Aug 22, 2009 5:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Question for Anthony!
Please name me 5 players on the Vikings who handled the pressure against the Eagles last playoff.
I doubt you can list 1 or 2.
You continue to diminish your argument by in essence saying the Eagles were a pee-wee league defense.
AP had 1 run (was that a direct snap? I don’t remember), otherwise less than crap, although I am sure it’s T Jax fault.
Maybe IF you looked at the Eagles game, as maybe a game against a very good team, AND a very stout defense, against a Vikings team which didn’t measure up on the day (T-Jax, as well as 52 other players and a host of coaches). T Jax did not play great , the special teams sucked (T-Jax caused that as well?) and the defense never put it together and looked quite lost most of the time (T-Jax fault as well?).
Maybe a little humility, AND a critical look at ALL aspects of the playoff loss, rather than a self-serving diatribe against 1 of 53 players who ALL played poorly under pressure would lend your argument much more credibility.
Regards,
I don't suffer from insanity...I relish every moment of it!
Give Anthony A Break
You fail to consider that the quarterback’s overall play and confidence level sets the tone for the performance of the rest of the team—yes, including running backs and special teams—especially in a million-dollar playoff game. If he’s deflated then they’re deflated; if he’s not doing well then they’re not doing well; if he’s defeated then they’re defeated; and the result is defeat.
Thus I salute the fortress,
Safe from terror and dread.
Wife, follow me
and dwell with me in Valhalla!
by Franciscan Viking on Aug 22, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
You're welcome...
to demean the personal integrity of ALL of the players on the team. IF the Vikings have NO personnel with the drive to perform at a high level, cut them all!!!
The team played poorly, and that includes T-Jax.
Unlike most here, I also recognize(d) that the Eagles are/were a very good team with an excellent defense. I grant you it’s unfortunate that T-Jax is the ONLY quarterback to ever have difficulties with the Eagles multiple and intricate blitz packages. Eli (top paid player AND Super Bowl winner) Manning, had NO problems at all the following week, not.
I still would like Anthony or you to name 1 or 2 Viking players who did not succomb to the pressure.
Regards,
I don't suffer from insanity...I relish every moment of it!
I wouldn’t exactly say psychological pressure, but I have always said TJ has “mental lapses” the kid has a load of potential but over the years he made alot of poor decisions with the football. It hasn’t always been under pressure situations either. I really think that if he could accept a backup role to Favre for a season that he could learn alot to help him refine his game even more, and when Brett leaves at the end of the season then TJ is set. Sage won’t be a starter here and I think we all know it, he just became a young Jeff George. TJ needs to think about if he wants to sit another year and become a franchise player or if he wants to jump ship and take his chances elsewhere.
Percy Harvin interview...
he’s a fast talker too! lmao!!
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 22, 2009 12:35 AM CDT reply actions
Missed it
Can you find a web link for me?
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
caught it on the NFLN replay.
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 22, 2009 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Damn my wife has the 46" SAMSUNG tHDTV tuned to HGTV.............
Can I get some love here men?
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Ugh forgive my proof reading
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
What happened?
Did your wife take the Jay Cutler prototype dildo out of your. . .
by VikingBillArlingtonVA on Aug 22, 2009 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I think your right.....dont make a Bear of a mistake, right?
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Backup QB Argument!
I’m gonna quit supporting Jackson for a while and just say how awesome it is that we’re arguing over our second/third string quarterback situation. That’s just a great thing considering the last few years!
by CanadianViking on Aug 22, 2009 12:47 AM CDT reply actions
I’m with this. It’s just that I’d rather hold on to Jackson then send him for a pick.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
I think it would be a loss for you at this point
as a Bears fan the last thing you want is a Justin Gage to show up in your house and shut you up right?
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Haha. It’s never personal. I’m sure you know this.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
Sweet!!!!!!`
THere is so much to debate right? let’s see what happens, right?
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
They are arguing over backups
Because nobody thinks Favre will last a whole season
by bleedingpurplesince74 on Aug 22, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Dang....
Does it feel like we are going to lose some talent all around to get to 53?
I mean… we’ve seen some good talent already in preseason.
Gonna be some tough decisions.
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 22, 2009 12:57 AM CDT reply actions
Hoss,,,,,, we all do.......dont you wish yo had Justin Gage?
He’d make a great 3rd string for you no? HE’S a STARTER FOR THE TITANS
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Crap I had to piss crappy cheap red wine wish I were drinking my homebrew.....
someone catch me up……………
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Bye Sage
Sorry but imma a T-Jack fan… he has a cannon of an arm and can get the ball down the field faster and with more velocity than Sage. I say let Sage go…he hasn’t proved anything to me
Agree, but I think Booty should go instead of Sage. Also I hope we find a spot for Reynaud.
by CanadianViking on Aug 22, 2009 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions
But as a Bears fan I hope you lose T-Jax
I Hope my team picks him up just to psych your team out and you can’t tell me it would nt……..would it?
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
I wouldn’t wish that fate on Jackson. Your receiving corps with the exception of Olsen is worse than ours. Also, you’re kinda right. He would be a decent backup on your team and I think he’s still got a lot of potential. Hate to see it realized against us.
by CanadianViking on Aug 22, 2009 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions
you mean Bears Light?
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
OUCH!!!!!!!
You hear that Berrian? Wade?
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Only meant current bears. But since I was knocking your WR’s good point. Maybe we should look up Marcus Robinson again too. Ha, I think we both know that isn’t the answer.
by CanadianViking on Aug 22, 2009 1:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Touche
not sure if you caught me on the previous thread….I’m a fan of the Division.
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Sorry
New to commenting here. Just thought it’d be fun to joke around with a Bear’s fan.
by CanadianViking on Aug 22, 2009 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Saying youre sorry is a sign of weakness
I’ll take what you can give as long as you can aknowledge the same…………..You havent offended…..feel free to email anytime icarr0331 at the obvious yahoo address…..I love fans of all teams of the best division in the NFL.
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Not weak. Just Polite
Being nice is what us Canadian’s are good at. Don’t fear I’ll be an ass once I get used to commenting. Canadia. I like that, it’s like being called America’s little brother. Can’t say I haven’t heard that crap before.
by CanadianViking on Aug 22, 2009 1:43 AM CDT up reply actions
awwww now you're just being nice............
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Too many shrug me off
I love Canadia LMAO……………..i hope you got that?????
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Rivalry!?
Question… why do I never see Favre and T-Jack around eachother? You think T-Jack might not like all the Favre hoopla….please chime in on this my fellow Vikings fans
As an outsider looking in
There is no way in HE(double hockey sticks) T-Jax is happy about any of this and to be honest Chili has almost put in enough time with him to make him dangerous to the Vikes
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
man listen….we just have 4 good QB’s….cut Ian Johnson..i still think he’s a spaz for proposing to his girl after the Boise State win….lol
LMAO
I watched that game and everyone in the room stopped drinking to toast them both…..Forgive me, we were all Irish…..might be foreign to you up there in the lakelands
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Childress will save face...
and keep 4 QBs… and cut somewhere else.
if he dumps TJack, he admits he’s not a QB developer…
if he sends Sage packing, that’s a snub against part of the ‘triangle’
Booty could be his developmental/draft success…
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 22, 2009 1:15 AM CDT reply actions
I’m not sure where you saw Booty show anything other than his potential for mop up work.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
Nothing like cleaning up after the pros.....eh?
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
without getting into a classic pissing match about 1st, 2nd, or 3rd team players v. the other teams same…
He stood in the pocket and looked comfortable – no happy feet… checked down and completed his transitions.
He looked less comfortable when pushed out of the pocket and threw off-balance on the run.
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 22, 2009 1:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Booty
Booty looked better than Jackson and had way better mechanics. Jackson is way too inconsistent. He just dosn’t have the intellectual capacity to handle the position. Put more simply……..you can’t fix stupid. However, JDB has a lot of potential to turn into a Matt Hasslebeck type QB after a couple years on the bench.
by MinnesotaRage on Aug 22, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah…adrian is a beast…but since he’s seems to be just a little injury prone…we of course got Chester T…he’s a mini A.D…. and then we keep 1 more RB for garbage time
Albert Young seems to have the inside track. We’ll see what happens next week. Keeping Ian would be nice just because he’s a good story and all, but I’m betting on Young to get the job.
yeah… he seemed to be making it happen tonite.
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 22, 2009 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions
He was awesome last week.
But Johnson was good too. This is a battle that remains undecided, so I look forward to seeing what happens against the Texans.
who got ‘blown up’ on our 4th and short with Favre in… somebody botched the block that woulda sprung AP around the right side…
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 22, 2009 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions
coulda been... he wasn't ready to catch the dump either...
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 22, 2009 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions
it mighta been the ‘zip’. lol
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 22, 2009 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Careful...
It’s already been established that I’m just a ‘homer’.
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 22, 2009 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions
can’t tell if you think it was Kick Ass… or if you’re being sarcastic…
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 22, 2009 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions
it was definitly kick ass…on a scale to 1 to 10 it was a 8….still wann see some screen passes to adrian…and put him in motion a lil’ and we’ll be explosive
Does he need the 10lbs he wanted .....
as soon as off season started?
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
aw
come on you can read into it or take it for what it was but the competition will always say it was a sign of weakness…..NO?
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
I wouldn't say that.
I’d say it’s evidence that AD is always trying to get better — if people call that weakness, so be it. He was just misled and one of the funnier stories of the offseason resulted.
very well for your sake I hope it's true......
but then again…………..perhaps it wasn’t meant to get out as far as it did and his upright style has not benefited him as well as we, in Chi-town hope it benefits Forte………………that’s right, I spelled it out for you easy readers…….meybe you’ll have something worth commenting on…………..
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
I'd like to see a bootleg executed well
I loves the bootleg.
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 22, 2009 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions
those are nice when executed well.......
how where the PA passes? any to mention?
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
as my name is also IAN
its too bad there was only one……..Kudos……keep me posted.
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Tavaris Jackson had a perfect Quarterback Rating
And Brett Favre looked pissed on the sidelines everytime Tavaris made a good play.
Holy crap!!
More than Chicago has a QB situation on its hands…………………….Thank God was starting to think the wankers at WCG were a little thin skinned……………..
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
maybe I had my Favre-goggles on...
but I didn’t see him looking pissed.
I didn’t see him ‘glad-assing’ around either.
Shots of him looking at photos, talking with Hutch, talking with Berrian, Shiancoe, coaches, etc.
Looked to me like he was working on establishing his presence in the team.
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 22, 2009 1:41 AM CDT reply actions
do I need to patent ‘Favre-Goggles’?
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 22, 2009 1:43 AM CDT up reply actions
If you autograph them I'll take a pair
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
well with my Favre-Goggles i seen him pulling at his jersey collar like there was a fire under there
purple rash.
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 22, 2009 1:47 AM CDT up reply actions
As my drill instructors said.......you silly bastard we give you bull frog for a reason..........
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
I’m with you on this one. And if he was in fact angry, I’d attribute it to his performance rather than Jackson’s.
in his defense… his 2 incomplete passes… were thrown to where the WR should have been given the pressure.
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 22, 2009 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions
…….passing to the perfect situation will get you a Bears vs Bills score
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Did you mean "Lovie those 9-6 shootouts"?
Hahaha its preseason boys……..if you aren’t having fun, you’re doing it wrong!
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
That’s about right. You have no idea how many Bills game’s I’ve had to watch being on the east coast of Canada!
by CanadianViking on Aug 22, 2009 2:05 AM CDT up reply actions
try being a Bear's fan when your wife drags you to Lion's country........
……….cry me a river…………again you too can email your thoughts to my screen name @ some yahoo thing …….I like you and would like to keep in touch.
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Sounds rough
I’ll get in touch some time but my booze is wearing off and I got to go golfing tommorrow.
by CanadianViking on Aug 22, 2009 2:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Lucky bastard..........
the wifey is waiting for me to finish with the lot of ya………….
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
no… that’s where the pass hits the receiver in the hands but they can’t hold on.
how many of those passes would Gross-Ort-man-on like to have in the ‘complete’ category…
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 22, 2009 2:03 AM CDT up reply actions
thats a Davis pass
Damn that Rashied……….sad thing is……….I post to most Bears players blogs……hope they understand its business and not personal…..HAHAHA…..who am I kidding……Bears fans are almost ready to call child protect services when we see him pick up his child out of fear he’ll drop them as well……….The Bears could cover him in Stick ’um and he would find a way to drop a pass.
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
hehe… very good. get to your wife now! I’m headed to mine.
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 22, 2009 2:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I was hoping some one would give me a reason to open another bottle.......
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Very well then
if she caught wind of Arizona it’d be the end of both of us…..she moved there shortly after HS………been encouraging me to move there since we met………fat chance of that……..I prefer the cold winter air of the fly over states……………..
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Will they?
Shit rolls down field………………..I’ll not argue that Favre is a PrimaDonna or not………………………..I think you’lll be damn lucky to keep T-Jax.
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Shall we put pound to dollar to it?
For your sake I hope so…….for my teams sake I certainly hope not………..in fact, I honestly hope we pick him up…..but then again it’s no secret that the Bears and Lovie have figured out Farve……………May God have Mercy on Chili’s Soul………………
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
I believe it's .......
#1, #2, #3 as much as yours is #1 former Bear, #2 Former Bear and #3 you almost made the practice team…….?
"We're here! We're queer! We don't want anymore bears!" by Manimal on Aug 20, 2009 12:05 PM EDT @ Daily Norseman after acquiring a geriatric QB
Give the man some credit
He played a great game. He deserves it. And who’s to say the pressure was off. We all know the five stages right. First is denial, and if he’s still in that stage then his performance was a determined one to show he should be the starter. Wouldn’t that be somethong if the Vikings went from contending team lacking a solid quarterback to contending team with three of them… inside of a week!
Short memories
So he has a good day against K.C. scrubs and your going to crown this guy? I still remember Assante Samuel running in the other direction in the playoffs last year due to T-Jack’s “patented” wounded ducks. Costing us a playoff win. Send um packin. He sucks.
wow
does anybody know if there’s a comment delete button anywhere???
by vikesfan4lyf on Aug 22, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Keeping T-Jack
I do agree that T-Jack has proven himself to be a solid backup to Farve and should be retained! Put Booty on the practice team! T-Jack should be backup to Farve because he knows the system much better than Sage! He performed great last night! He is a mobile QB which is what’s needed in football today. A huge mistake to trade T-Jack! Childress has already plundered this thing and getting rid of T-Jack would make it worse!!
Back-up situation
Is really an interesting question:
Oddly enough my thoughts have not changed pre/post Farve’s arrival. The #2 SHOULD BE Sage. That is his element, AND where he has performed best during his Career.
Sage as a starter 6-6 13TD/20int, Sage as a back-up 17TD/9int.
T Jax has not played much as a back-up with 1TD/1int.
I Kepp both, IF/when Farve breaks down, T-Jax starts, Sage back-up. Most sensible use of players skills.
Regards,
I don't suffer from insanity...I relish every moment of it!
I'd be great if we could keep T.Jackson in the fold
One year to learn under Favre’s wing and more than likely Favre will not stay 100% healthy….
Maybe he performed better because
He played with a better team. He played with the second stringers last week. He looked better this week because he got to play more talent around him. I can’t wait to see Sage with the second string.
http://vikingsmashfootball.wordpress.com/
Talent wise the three best QB's will stay
They are Favre, Rosenfels, and Tarvaris. Neither Jackson or Sage has proven that they can stay healthy in the pre-season.
John David Booty was a good college QB, but he’s just a guy in the NFL, and he’s easily replaceable. Not saying that Rosie and TJ aren’t, but with all the other dynamics going on, if TJ can be a professional and handle a demotion, JDB is the odd man out.
People sleep peacably in their beds at night because rough men stand at the ready to do violence on their behalf--George Orwell.
Keep Jackson
I think Chilly needs to have a serious talk with Jackson, outline what the future will be if he chooses to stay with the Vikings, and see if he’s on-board with it. If not, they can trade him by the end of the pre-season to the interested team that he most wants to go with. It has to be a cooperative decision though, because of his contract situation.
Personally, I think he should stay. I’m not buying the explaination yet that his problem is folding under pressure. T-Jack deals with pressure on almost every single play and if being in competition for 2nd string and a position on the team, all hinging on two quarters, isn’t pressure, I don’t know what is. He’s got some other issues (consistency, injury-prone, reading the D, holding onto the ball too long, telegraphing his reads, not checking down far enough) that can all be ironed out when the game eventually ‘clicks’ for him. And I think it will, the only question is how much time will it take and can any team afford to wait on him.
But the Vikings have invested 3 years into his development and if Favre wasn’t here, this could really be his year to take over. When he’s ‘on’, he’s better than Sage, no question of that. To suggest that he’s not even worth keeping as #3 is not very realistic or very fair to the man who can put up some very impressive performances.
And if we let him go, and Favre folds, and Sage gets hurt….. Booty doesn’t qualify as “depth” on the QB chart.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
Well
“this could really be his year to take over” This is excactly what everyone were saying last year… That didn’t go excactly as everyone had hoped!
Everyone was overly optimistic last year. This is his 4th year, this is the year that he was originally expected to first start getting some field time.
Remember Gannon, and Johnson? We need to do better than that…
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
Easy now everyone
Same old, same old…. Let’s not get over excited about his performance. He has shown flashes in the past but more times than not it is only when he comes to the line and sees a defense he expects. If you look at the TD pass to Renaud, he made a great throw, as he has shown he can, but there were no surprises defensively. Analyze it, there was no Safety in the middle of the field.
On the other TD to Visante, that was a horrible throw after scrambling for his life. In reality, Visante made that play. That was thrown like a lame duc and just as easily could have been an INT.
All in all, he looked good for the most part, but as I said above, it usually happens more often than not when he sees a defense he expects. His “read and react” skills are horrible and it is for that reason he is nothing more than what he has been all along…. A bottom half of the NFL QB.
Except...
“On the other TD to Visante, that was a horrible throw after scrambling for his life. In reality, Visante made that play. That was thrown like a lame duc and just as easily could have been an INT.”
Maybe you should watch the replay. Where were the defenders? Which of these defenders were within 3-5 yds when the pass got to Visante (Visante has caught the pass and coming down when he get’s hit)? IF Visante doesn’t touch that pass it’s incomplete 1,000,000 times out of 1,000,000.
Here’s a link so you can review: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-miss-plays/09000d5d8120ee83/Pre-WK-2-Can-t-Miss-Tarvaris-TD-throws
Regards,
I don't suffer from insanity...I relish every moment of it!
Quality starting secondary
would have batted that down or interecepted it. That throw was a lame duc, as PurpleJesus stated. Not crowning Favre, as his numbers prove that, but that doesn’t negate the crappiness of that T.Jackson throw…
I was responding to a declarative statement...
the exact quote “That was thrown like a lame duc and just as easily could have been an INT”
In the EXACT situation of that pass (not a better secondary), that is a near physical IMPOSSIBILITY. The 1 possibility to be intercepted is if Visante did a tip drill to a defender.
It has always been my understanding that you want to throw a pass in a spot where ONLY your reciever can catch it or it cannot be caught by anyone. That pass, achieved that result in spades. Was it pretty? Absolutely not! Did it get the job done as intended? Absolutely!!!
In fact the pass to complain about was the 64yd TD pass, it was much closer to a defender than the dying quail;-)
I remember a Viking quarterback in my youth who threw passes end over end, and did reasonable well with the Vikings, his name? Joe Kapp.
I don't suffer from insanity...I relish every moment of it!
and it was thrown like a lame duck
And could have been easily intercepted. Seems you are lone man out…
I agree...
it was thrown as a lane duck. SO WHAT.
You look at the video and please tell me WHO had a chance to intercept that pass.
Maybe the point attempted to be made was that throwing dying quails is not good form and might lead to more interceptions. Cool! I would agree with that as a general premise. That’s not what was said.
I suspect the comment was to belittle the pass, even though it was a TD because of the player who threw the TD pass, AND NOTHING T-Jax does can be complimented (cynical I am!).
You say THAT PASS could be easily intercepted. Please look at the video here
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-miss-plays/09000d5d8120ee83/Pre-WK-2-Can-t-Miss-Tarvaris-TD-throws
Give me the number of the player in that play who could have intercepted that pass. I would expect them to be cut this week, since you folks seem to see some phantom in the video.
It’s really too bad that you can’t accept that it was a good play, because you HATE T-Jax.
Regards,
I don't suffer from insanity...I relish every moment of it!
Actually not a TJ hater...
Not even sure why out of my whole response you decided to attack the fact that I criticized that throw. It was horrible and in any given game could have been easily intercepted. There was absolutely no need to lay that pass out there and make Visante leap up to get it and get hit like he did. Was there? Any quality QB would have easily driven that pass in there and play over.
And for TJ, if you look at some of my other posts I am suggesting I would like to find a way to keep all 4 QBs, albeit not likely Booty gets to the practice squad.
In all honesty… If you want to come here and talk good quality Vikings football then as far as I am concerned I will be glad to chat. if you are looking for ways to criticize people then maybe I should suggest you look elsewhere because I am no longer going to play that game with you.
All the best.. SKOL Vikes
Sir,
I will apologize if you took offense.
I copied your exact words numerous times.
Could the throw have been better? Sure. Bottom line, T-Jax did what he intended to do, AND as awful as it looked that particular throw was not capable of being intercepted. AND that was my only point.
Maybe I should just leave. The vast majority on this site are extremely down on T-Jax, and that’s fine. Although I will wager a years income, IF the number on the back of the Quarterback last night was #2 rather than #7, both the commentary and the posts in this thread would have been glowing and about the 2nd coming of Montana.
I think I’ll take your advise and go elsewhere. I have followed the team from the beginning, which means nothing more than I have seen the best and the worst, and I have yet to wish any Viking player ill no matter their faults.
Have fun,
I don't suffer from insanity...I relish every moment of it!
It's all good...
No need for you to leave….
I just was confused when you decided to attack that small part of my post …which was really intended simply to say "same old, same old’, which is a point I think I made. Whether the pass could have been intercepted on that exact play or not , or whether a quality QB would have thrown it better, was really not important.
by PurpleJesus on Aug 22, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Pass was horrible
That was no Joe Montana to Dwight Clark throw. There was no need to lay it up there and expose Visante.
TJack's only chance
is to drive an “errant pass” into Favre’s sore shoulder. Now you see why Chilly was willing to go into last season with TJ. He did this last season too.
It had nothing to do
with the pressure…he has always been up and down…week to week you never know what you will get. The TJ from the Cards game..or the Fumbling bumbling TJ from the Falcons game.
He never puts together back to back good games..and TJ has only ever had one really good game…that being the Cards game. He still has happy feet…has not learned to take a 3 or 5 step drop and throw…still throws off his back foot…still stares down his receivers. This going into his 4th season.
And for some reason the debate still goes on with this guy…its beyond me.
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