T-Jax back to practice
by TheViking83 on Aug 5, 2009 3:29 PM CDT
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Tarvaris Jackson said Tuesday he didn't know when he'd return to practice, but it turns out he didn't have to wait much longer.
T-Jack was back behind center for the Vikings at practice Wednesday.
According to the beat writers of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, who have Vikings fans very well covered on Twitter, Jackson was "moving well" and participated in a portion of the team drills, although he was "eased into" practice by sitting out some portions.
Players often say that training camp plays tricks on their mind. Two days can feel like two weeks, and they lose track of when the weekend arrives.
Apparently, that can happen for lowly bloggers as well. It sure feels like Jackson's injury occurred a lot longer ago than Saturday.
Jackson's four days off may put him behind in his battle with Sage Rosenfels, but he has time to catch up, especially during the preseason.
That's assuming coach Brad Childress hasn't already made up his mind who he prefers.
Chilly came out immediately and said that the injury was minor, but after T-Jax missed a few days of practice people started to speculate on how bad the injury really was given Jackson's injury-prone history. I'm very happy that T-Jax is back taking snaps, but this little scare just made me even more confident than I already was that Sage will come out of this competition as the starter.
Until he does something dumb like turn the ball over 4 times in 1 quarter...
The QB position will always give us something to talk about, won't it?
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Before the injury I was leaning towards TJack as our QB….after the injury I’m leaning towards Sage….Pre-season games should be the ultimate test though and should be the basis of who gets the starting job
by Loki The Viking God on Aug 5, 2009 3:44 PM CDT reply actions
it's preseason.
you don’t take chances. if it were game time tj would have played (assuming he’s the starter).
and how does missing 4 games to one injury make someone injury prone? because he had a tweak last preseason too? again, you don’t take chances in preseason. think brady would miss some practice time if felt a little twinge from his injury? i do. think he’d a miss an actual game? i don’t.
by iseepurplepeople on Aug 5, 2009 4:16 PM CDT reply actions
I have no idea what you're trying to say
by Loki The Viking God on Aug 5, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
people started to speculate on how bad the injury really was given Jackson’s injury-prone history.
by iseepurplepeople on Aug 5, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Aww Yes
Yeah like Jackson said, all of his injuries have been kinda flukes…I don’t think he’s injury prone, but Sage has shown more durability then TJack to this point regardless
by Loki The Viking God on Aug 5, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
ehh
perhaps my skepticism just comes from my lack of trust in T-Jax.
I’d LOVE it if he proved me wrong!!
"The latest Brett Favre summer saga apparently has come to an end. The 39-year-old reportedly informed the Vikings on Tuesday that he will not come out of retirement for a 19th season."
The greatest news I've heard all year!
I'd consider a guy
with 4 separate injuries (and a number of very minor ones that at least kept him out of practices) over 3 years to be injury prone.
You can dice it up however you want, that’s how I see it. And I’m gonna go ahead and say that if Jackson is the opening day starter, I wouldn’t be one bit surprised to see him go down before week 4.
"The latest Brett Favre summer saga apparently has come to an end. The 39-year-old reportedly informed the Vikings on Tuesday that he will not come out of retirement for a 19th season."
The greatest news I've heard all year!
It's not even how often he gets injured either
its the fact that minor things seem to really take a toll on this guy. I think a lot of his injury issues are mental.
"The latest Brett Favre summer saga apparently has come to an end. The 39-year-old reportedly informed the Vikings on Tuesday that he will not come out of retirement for a 19th season."
The greatest news I've heard all year!
You hit it on the head
These minor injuries that take him out are the reason I also feel he will not complete a full season. I know this is only training camp and you don’t want to take any chances, but come on, show some toughness. This is football, remember?
"Skol pa fiskande"
Minor injuries are treated differently in camp than they are in a game.
You are not going to be stupid and play through an injury during training camp. But you will play through an injury during a game.
That is the difference between these injuries and the ones that we should care about.
People get injured in football, the smart ones don’t aggravate those injuries by practicing.
+1
as i said previously. tj missed 4 games in 07 due to 1 injury. that doesn’t make a player injury prone in my book. has he missed proactice? yes. name one starting qb who hasn’t missed practice because of an ‘injury’. there isn’t one. if these guys get sneezed on hard in the morning practice, the coach will ‘limit’ them in the afternoon practice as a precaution.
by iseepurplepeople on Aug 7, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Sage the right spice?
I don’t know that Sage is that much an upgrade from T.Jack. If he can step up in the pocket better than T.Jack does he should have the job. That is one area where Tavaris lacks. He can scramble well, but sags in the pocket too often.
Make you own jokes about “sags in the pocket too often”.
Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!
Where are these “number of very minor ones that kept him out of practices”? If he is kept out of practices, it is put on the injury report.
9/22/06 through 12/7/06 – Knee injury – missed some practice/ wasn’t starting
9/16/07 to 10/19/07 – groin injury – missed two games
10/26/07 to 11/2/07 – right hand injury – missed a philly game
11/4/07 to 11/9/07 – Back/Neck/Concussion on that hit to his head – Missed a green bay game… you know the one we lost 34-0?
9/5/08 to 9/12/08 – knee – Missed preseason games
Unless Chilly is taking a page from the Bill Belichek playbook and not reporting injuries, then I don’t see these injuries you speak of.
He needs to stop thinking he is a running back and realize he is a QB. He doesn’t take hits all day, so his body is not used to it. When he does take a hit, it hurts worse.
Plus, it is really hard to work on timing routes when your plant leg is injured.
4 games?
Try missing 11 games in 2 seasons due to injury.
by torturedvikingsfan on Aug 6, 2009 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Injuries are always a concern
It seems to me that T-Jack may be on the fragile side. Maybe I’m wrong, but it’s the impression I have. He’s never played a full season but he’s racked up a number of sidelining injuries. At least one of those was due to trying to run through a linebacker, something I’d like to think he’s learned not to try any more.
Hopefully he’ll be healthy, and stay healthy the rest of the year.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
I love Chester but
Trade him for Matt Leinart. He is a free agent after this season and we may as well get something for him. I realize a late draft pick migh have to be thrown in, so be it. Maybe thats crazy, but its either that or hold off this year and hope to get Tebow next year.
Something, some type of upgrade. Drop Booty if you have to, if he isn’t picking things up well. The next month its crucial for him to show the coaches more than he has.
Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!
TJ All The Way!
TJ’s missed 4 games in 3 years. That’s not too bad, IMO. A lot of players miss pre-season practices or games b/c of dings. I don’t know if Sage has missed that many games, b/c I’m not sure he’s played in that many games in his 8 years with 3 teams. I simply cannot see him winning the competition. TJ is getting better, Sage hasn’t really shown improvement.
Reading Judd and Chip’s tweets, there seem to be a lot of interceptions thrown by Sage. I’d chalk it up to him becoming familiar with the system, but with 30 TDs and 29 INTs, again, over 8 years in the league, I don’t foresee a light going off in his head.
As for Leinart, why do you think he’d be better? He and TJ both have 3 years in the league. TJ has a better completion percentage, better TD/INT ratio, and better QB rating.
HANG IN THERE, TARVARIS! I’m with ya!
Dream On!
I like to dream, but I also look at the stats.
What in Sage’s background are you basing your opinion on? Other than “TJ sucks” or the “non pass jump pass pass” stuff, when you look at their numbers and history, why do you think Sage is better?
by JasonAve6413 on Aug 6, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Guys, let's be realistic here...
Booty’s going to win. Hands down. All the signs are there. Booty will lead us to the promised lands.
In AP I trust
Just say no to Favre.
F-A-R-V-A =/= F-A-V-R-E
by FarvaForTheVikings on Aug 6, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
REVENGE4BOOTY!!!
"The latest Brett Favre summer saga apparently has come to an end. The 39-year-old reportedly informed the Vikings on Tuesday that he will not come out of retirement for a 19th season."
The greatest news I've heard all year!
BOOTY WILL WIN THE MVP AND LEAD THE VIKINGS TO THE SUPER BOWL!!!!
JUST WAIT!!! YOU HATERS WILL SEE!!!
(sorry Revenge, just havin’ a little fun :D)
In AP I trust
Just say no to Favre.
F-A-R-V-A =/= F-A-V-R-E
by FarvaForTheVikings on Aug 6, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
How are peple so confident in who will win QB battle
We have two guys who would be the #2 QB on ~25 teams in this league and both MIGHT be starting quality. Sage needs to make better decisions and stop throwing INT’s by forcing throws he doesn’t have the arm to make. Jackson needs to stop drifting in the pocket and throw from the pocket as well as when he rolls out. For Sage, it’s finally getting an opportunity. For Jackson, it’s proving he can continue developing. This compitition could easily go either way and either way we’ll have a good back-up QB – something we’ve lacked in recent years. I understand most people like one guy over the other, but neither has shown they are significantly better at this point. FWIW, I like Jackson as I think he has a much bigger upside potential. But I want whoever performs best to get the job and look forward to watching these guys compete in preseason.
by ChemErik on Aug 6, 2009 8:56 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
How are peple so confident in who will win QB battle
I don’t see anything wrong with having confidence in your opinion, but I guess that’s just me.
"The latest Brett Favre summer saga apparently has come to an end. The 39-year-old reportedly informed the Vikings on Tuesday that he will not come out of retirement for a 19th season."
The greatest news I've heard all year!
Good Post Erik
That sums this issue up very nicely.
T-Jack has proven that he sucks…quite frequently. So how you can get all over him being our QB after what he’s already “proven”, I have no idea. But, every man for himself.
Sage has always been a 2nd stringer & his ability to throw the mind-blowing INT has me concerned.
Thank God we have AP & our defense. Our QBs are second-rate, at best. I cant really get on either bandwagon, but I’ll take Sage. Change at QB is a good thing at this point in Viking-time.
I disagree.
Consistency is what we need. I think a lot of TJ’s problems will go away with more playing time. He has missed quite a bit of time due to injuries and benchings and I think he’ll win this competition and prove a lot of people wrong this coming season.
Jackson
Isn’t consistent himself. He’ll have a 2 bad games (Packers and Colts) then a good game (Cardinals) then a bad game (Falcons), then an ok game (Giants), and then a bad game (Eagles). I don’t think he’ll get the starting job. I guess I don’t really see a point in bringing Sage if he isn’t going to get a chance to start. It has been said Childress wanted him the past two years, which tells me he really likes the guy. I think Sage should be the starter, and if he doesn’t perform at a high enough level then Jackson should come in.
by packallday555 on Aug 8, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
The Falcons game was terrible all over
Hard to put that one on Tjack. The bad snap, AP dropping the hand off and fumbling. Jackson was actually the one who kept us in that game.
http://vikingsmashfootball.wordpress.com/
“Hard to put that one on Tjack.”
I wasn’t putting it on just Jackson, I was just pointing out he played poorly. The loss was on your whole offense.
“Jackson was actually the one who kept us in that game.”
He fumbled twice when you guys were in scoring position.
by packallday555 on Aug 8, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
He definitely made some big mistakes
but he played well in other facets. Just kind of a mixed bag as far as that game was concerned. He had over 300 all purpose yards and a 98.5 passer rating.
http://vikingsmashfootball.wordpress.com/
Passing wise, he was actually pretty good. It was just those 2 fumbles that absolutely killed you guys, and makes me say he played poorly. Though, now that I think about it, I would say he played ok rather then bad. Still though, he has had a consistency problem which will need to improve for you guys to reach your full potential.
by packallday555 on Aug 10, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Hopefully, for our sake, another year older will make him another year wiser
by Loki The Viking God on Aug 10, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
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