Wade Out, Greg Lewis In
"Hey, Bobby Wade! We really appreciate you taking that 50% pay cut this season and taking a significantly smaller role on the team after we drafted Percy Harvin in the offseason. You've made a lot of sacrifices to make this team better. We appreciate it. And oh yeah, one last thing...turn in you're playbook, because you're cut. Yeah, we picked up Greg Lewis instead and we don't need you anymore."
Probably not the exact way the Vikings management put it to Wade, but that's what it must feel like for the poor guy. What a difference a year makes, huh? Last year, Wade was a definite go-to target; this year, through no fault of his own, he had been reduced to an afterthought in a suddenly deep Vikings wide receiving corps.
The Vikings have replaced Wade with Greg Lewis. (Tribune article here.) You probably know Lewis from being picked up by someone in your fantasy league after he had one big game for the Eagles, only to be dropped two weeks later after he scored 1 total point after that. I'm not really sure why the Vikings chose to do this three days before the season, especially after Wade took a pay cut. Maybe Childress really liked something he saw in Lewis during their time together in Philadelphia. Either way, it shouldn't affect Minnesota's complete thrashing of game against the Browns on Sunday that much.
Let us know what you think about the move. Did Bobby get screwed over? Are you excited for the Greg Lewis Era? Or are you only focused on how many hundreds of yards AP will rack up on Sunday?
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I don't like it.
Bobby Wade is a nice slot receiver who took a pay cut to stay on the team. That’s loyalty. And how do they repay him? “Pack your stuff, Bobby! You’re outta here.” Wow. That’s just great.
Looks like Berrian is hurt worse than we thought.
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by Manimal on Sep 10, 2009 11:06 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't get it either.
Wade did everything he could to stay on the team, and it’s not like he performed poorly the last two years. Lewis has only 127 catches in his six-year career. The only things that make sense to me are maybe we signed Lewis for much less than Wade’s restructured $1.5 million deal or Chilly loves him from the Philly days like I mentioned.
by Eric J. Thompson on Sep 10, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Lewis is more of deep threat receiever, yes?
A cheap, tall, deep threat to backup Berrian?
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Good point.
Like you said, this probably means Berrian is hurt more than the Vikings are letting on.
[Removes Berrian from fantasy lineup]
by Eric J. Thompson on Sep 10, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
+1, Berrian must be worse than we thought
We are saving money, but come on, Percy or Darius can play the slot. Both are much more dangerous after the catch. Its not cool to do that to Bobby, but I’m gonna trust the front office on this one.
by Duluth Viking on Sep 10, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
It says 6' in most places...
So not huge, but Bevell said it was because of his versatility as well. He can play all the positions.
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Far from 5'8"
I still don’t like the move. I agree that it doesn’t look good for Berrian but I thought Jaymar was the backup burner on the outside? Besides Wade always had a way of finding a hole and sliding into it. Still confused about this…
Probably just wanted someone with some experience.
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It's a business and Bobby Wade is average at best with no upside.
Harvin, Rice, Reynaud, J.Johnson are all better than Wade and deserve the spots. Berrian will be okay. I hope. I havent heard anything to support the contrary and the signing of Greg Lewis is an upgrade over Wade so it doesn’t mean Berrian is gonna miss more time based upon that alone.
Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!
Wade
I’ve never been a big Bobby Wade fan either, but several scouting reports and writers have raved about his excellent and consistent hands. That is a rare skill anymore, even if Wade can’t get open as often as a team leader in receptions should.
Cold as ice
I guess the Vikes wanted to prove that the NFL is a business…………..I’m a believer now. Hope Bobby catches on somewhere else.
I think it's ALL about loyalty
I imagine that it was easy to be loyal to Childress when Chilly wanted to prove that Wade was a #1 WR in the NFL, but not so easy lately. Perhaps Greg Lewis replacing Bobby Wade is the new Billy McMullen replacing the roster spot left open by Marcus Robinson’s Christmas Eve cut (more or less). Now Chilly has a new WR who is 100% loyal, able to do everything right in practice, but never whine about too little time on the field. Many utterances of, “Percy, be more like Greg!” may follow in practices, which is surely absurd to any thinking fans out there.
Troy Williamson is a starter again after leading the NFL in preseason receiving yards. Could some of his demise have been because he was ordered to be more like Billy “StudMcmuffin” McMullen in practices?
It doesn’t seem like Childress likes WRs very much in general: the blowup with T.O., despite his influence on Chilly’s most successful offense ever; T-Willy (who deserved most of it in the end, or so it seemed); Marcus Robinson; Bobby Wade was only on his good side when Chilly was the only coach in the NFL offering him such an opportunity; all of the extra visiting with Percy Harvin, who he may actually like since he plans to use him primarily as a returner and #2 RB to help disguise the fact that he’s one of those receiver types. From day 1, the question about Childress was whether he can actually deal with very talented players, and now he’s treating a marginally good player badly, too.
+1
It doesn’t seem like Childress likes WRs very much in general
name another 1000 yard receiver (besides t.o.) that played for the eagles while childress whas a coach there.
by iseepurplepeople on Sep 10, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait, Troy Williamson is a STARTER?!
Is it too late to bet very heavily on the UNDER for Jags’ wins this year? Yikes!
by Eric J. Thompson on Sep 10, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Apparently so, and he could excel.
Aside from challenging Chilly to a fight, Troy Williamson has been a very solid character with a strong work ethic. He’s had a ball machine in his back yard since arriving in Jacksonville, or perhaps before that, and unless one doesn’t believe that practice is productive, there is a very good chance that he has made some real strides. As a bonus, he has a better QB throwing the ball to him and a coach that will put him to use more than 1-4x per game.
I’m very interested in following his season until/unless he loses his job, and I think that’s only a 50-50 chance.
I am shocked by hearing this. Greg Lewis maybe a few inches taller, but he has only had one season where he caught more than 25 passes and Wade has done better than that for the last 3 years. He has never been reliable as Wade and he is a year older. Never would have believed this would happen after that pay cut too.
Lwis is a slight upgrade so that doesn't say alot about Wade other than he got catches b/c our recieving corps hasent been that healthy the past two seasons.
Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!
well then...
when/if Berrian and Rice get hurt, I fully expect 53 catches from Greg Lewis.
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so...
why make this decision then?!?!?
Can’t be a big pay difference, Wade was loved in the locker room, he led the team in receptions for 2 years (regardless of his ability or inability), and knows the system.
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There is no pressure to get Lewis the ball
There was a bit from Wade and guys like Harvin, Renaud and J.Johnson need opportunities and Wade would only cut into their receptions and time on the field. Wade lacks the speed and athletic ability of all three I mention. Not to mention I don’t know what scouts were talking about Wade having good hands. I have seen him drop way too many balls the past two years and doesn’t have great hands. He only had the ability to stay healthy, but with no upside or better than average ability/talent who cares?
Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!
while all that you say here might be true, what exactly have you seen from greg lewis that would lead you to feel he is an upgrade?
by iseepurplepeople on Sep 10, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Wade? Who's Bobby Wade?
Do I know that guy?
< / Brad Childress impression>
That…. sucks.
There doesn’t seem to be a viable bridge between loyalty and business anymore…
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supprisingly...
the 4th reciever doesn’t matter… we dont use 4 wideouts lol
...add #4 to the mix and see what you get... Championship.
by Macdaddy4508 on Sep 10, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
4th WR
The Vikings don’t use 4 WRs the way the Oilers and June Jones Falcons did in the nineties, but Chilly and Bevell like to sub in lower WRs for certain packages…which isn’t a great strategy in my opinion, but whatever. I’m also anti-copycat since it can’t surprise anyone this year (and few QBs make good WRs, and almost as few WRs and RBs throw well, and why is the team with AP trying to run MORE often in a game?).
+10 "No Loyalty"
I was going to say the same thing. Cutting B.Wade 3-days before kickoff is a real shady move by the Vikings.
I know Wade had his share of drops, but he still led the team in receptions for 2 consecutive years. He’s a solid run-blocker, he can take a hit, and was willing to take a pay-cut to stay on the team.
I think he deserves better treatment than that!
Wade is 5'10,185 lbs, with average strength and is an average run blocker at best.
Terrel Owens and Hines Ward! Those are good blocking WRs not Wade!
Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!
I think if you went back and watched the last 32 games
you’d notice that Bobby Wade was a very good blocker and a real asset to Peterson’s running game.
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Like I said people have been talking about Wade being a great run blocker
Owens, Ward… Those are great run blockers! No way Wade is in the upper class of blocking WRs. Saying Wade is very good is saying just that and overrating a guy that is average at best. He might be descent/good as I did watch all 32 of the Vikings last regular season games. He will get in the way of players and use his body but does not have the strength to deal with bigger corners or safeties.
I said over two weeks ago they should release Wade b/c there is no reason to hold guys back with more ability than him just because Wade is a nice guy and works hard. Get the best talent in and win!
Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!
Owens and Ward and........
You only named 2 WR’s that are better than Wade, and the 2 you mentioned are HOF-worthy.
“Nobody” said Wade was the best, We’re only saying he’s solid, and knows our system real well. He’s carried the WR-Core on his back for the last 2yrs, and deserves a little more respect than what Childress and the Vikings are showing.
being from the "3-lower counties" of pennsylvania
I have never been all that impressed by Greg Lewis. I would rather have the sure hands and “move-the-chains” hands of Wade than the risky Lewis.
However, there’s merit to the point of bringing him in as Berrian’s back-up. This would allow Harvin to play more downs in the slot and potentially get the ball in his hands more frequently.
That said, if later in the yeat we start hearing that “Minny lacks a solid and reliable 3rd down receiver” (doubtful) than we’ll know where to point the finger.
by DelawareBerserker on Sep 10, 2009 11:37 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
This just in
Detroit releases Calvin Johnson to make room for Bobby Wade, the latest vikings casualty!
Who is Greg Lewis?
According to NFL.com…
Height: 6-0 Weight: 185 Age: 29
Born: 2/12/1980 Chicago , IL
College: Illinois
Experience: 7th season
Doesn’t really sound like a “tall” receiver… and they have him listed with the NE Patriots, so he must’ve bombed out there already. Does he have the speed to replace Berrian as a ‘just in case’? I hope so.
Looking at his stats, the guy’s all over the place. He’s played WR, RB, and on the D in the secondary. Another ‘versatile’ player.
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this is ridiculously stupid
at it really pisses me off.
But these kind of things are what I have come to expect from Bad Calldress.
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Marcus Robinson anyone?
This story combines my favorite things about our coach. His propensity to stab his players in the back (look for the sentence that says Christmas Eve halfway down the page).
And his need to sign Philadelphia has beens, with nothing left in the tank (or lookup Kelly Holcomb if you prefer).
You know I was almost starting to forget about our worthless head coach, with all the hype around this season. I can’t wait to see the fireworks between him and Favre when Childress tries to take credit for developing Favre the same way he developed McNabb. And he starts telling Favre how to run his “Kick Ass Offense™”
We would have been contenders last year with a real coach. With the money the Wilfs are spending on players and with the luck of Peterson falling to us in the draft, we’re an underachieving team with this coach.
Anyway here’s a classy quote from Wade at the bottom of the Tribune article about how he was looking forward to the season:
“That’s the nice part about it,” Wade said of the Vikings’ depth at wide receiver. “Especially with the addition of Percy. It was that one element that we were missing. Guys can do it, but not at the level he can do it. It’s the same thing with [Bernard] Bernard. We can put guys in that position, but guys aren’t going to be able to excel [like he did]. Same thing with Sidney [Rice] in the red zone. Me, a lot of stuff finding zones, every down blocking. Those type of things. We have a lot of guys that are playing a role in this offense. Everybody has a role and the better we understand that the better we’ll play together.”
Sorry Bobby, if you think leading this team in receptions is enough to keep your roster spot go talk to Marcus Robinson.
Fire Childress!
I thought this also about Chilli
I was trying to believe that he was attempting to improve our team, but come on gutting it for has beens from your former team is a real low.
This just further proves that this is a business and not a family, so next year when Peterson or Harvin decides to holdout for more money lets not get upset.
Damn Chilli!! wuuuuussssaaaaaa wuuuusssaaaa i need to calm down…
by midnightwonder on Sep 10, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
good post dwarg
I really wish I could take some sort of secret poll in the locker room to find out just how many people really respect Childress. I just wonder if it’s as low as I assume or not.
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Not only that...
but many of those moves were trades, not FA signings: Artis Hicks and Holcomb were for low picks, McMullen for Hank Baskett III, Bollinger was from WI and knew Bevell…for CJ Mosely and a pick…and he was only 1-for-4 on those by my estimations (assuming that nothing can be subtracted for the instances in which the trade helped the other team significantly more).
Interesting overreactions. Never knew Bobby Wade had any fans.
Percy and Reynaud must have really proven that they can handle the slot.
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That's what I was thinking.
Lewis is a cheaper, somewhat experienced, deep threat backup for Berrian. Rice is the tall, possession guy (in theory), and we have a couple young’uns to bring along the way.
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i don't really think its an overreaction
the guy led the team in receptions 2 years in a row and is a good downfield blocker. Not to mention he is a guy that the other players liked having in the locker room. I didn’t think the world of Wade, nor did I ever think he would be a huge part of the offense, but replacing him with a lame, no-namer AFTER he agreed to take a paycut and a reduced role just rubs me the wrong way.
But, to each their own. I have come to realize over the past 3 months that my opinions on Vikings matters seem to differ from many other’s. I just don’t see how this is a smart, football decision. That’s all.
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Receptions leader
And not a number one or two receiver by any means. I like Wade, but his reception totals are more a product of shoddy QB play and poor development from Rice than anything else.
Here’s my question—how many games is not having Bobby Wade going to cost us this year?
Exactly. Business is business.
"Come on Eddie, let's get serious."
Hard to say?
With the shoddy play-calling, most of Wades receptions come on 3rd and long. That means most of Wades receptions move the chains……We just released a solid workhorse!
Exactly
Wade was a go-to guy on clutch 3rd downs. He kept many drives alive. I too will miss his all-for-the-team play.
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And NFL players shouldn't have guaranteed contracts?
Of all the professional sports, football should have guaranteed contracts. I am not a big Bobby Wade fan, but a guy takes a pay cut to stay on the team and they still drop him. Remember this when you start complaining that a player is holding out for more money when they have a career year. Just my two cents worth….
Exactly!
Usually when a player leads the team in receptions,(2 consecutive years) they hold-out for a raise.
What about Leadership?
Sounds like the same type of guy except he might be a step or two faster, but will he be able to teach our young guns. He was the underrated leader of our WR core. BB isnt even if he was the fastest. I can only hope we didn’t make a big mistake with this move.
by midnightwonder on Sep 10, 2009 12:17 PM CDT reply actions
Why Wade and not Reynaud or Jaymar Johnson
With Berrian injured, picking up a guy that could be a deep threat is a good idea, but why are they keeping Reynaud and Johnson? If Harvin goes down, who plays the slot? It seems odd that they would go after depth at one position just to cut another one short.
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Why Wade and not Reynaud or Jaymar Johnson
I think they know someone will pick up Reynaud or Johnson.
They want to keep them for the future, but I to am at a loss for this decision.
by midnightwonder on Sep 10, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think we're getting the whole story, yet...
Something is up, that’s for sure.
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Sep 10, 2009 12:25 PM CDT reply actions
I hope so
It just doesn’t make a lot of sense to me strictly from an “on the field” point of view.
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So whats the new line up?
Who moves to where???
by midnightwonder on Sep 10, 2009 12:33 PM CDT reply actions
Will mostly be the same.
Berrian and Rice on the outside, Harvin in the slot, and Shianco either split out or at the TE position. I don’t think the Vikings will run many four wide sets because the Shankmeister has turned into such a possession threat.
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well
let’s hope that Berrian doesn’t get hampered with a foot injury… or a toe… or a hammy… and that Harvin doesn’t get dehydrated, or contract the swine flu. I liked having Wade last year because he had a knack for finding the first down line. I liked having Wade this year because of the depth he provided at the position. Let’s hope Reyanud and Johnson are ready to step up to the plate if needed!
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I am shocked as well.
But assuming everyone stays healthy (big assumption), he wasn’t going to see a lot of the field anyway. Of course, it’s guaranteed that now one of the Vikings’ receivers will go down with a season ending injury in week one. Because they cut wade. Damn Murphy’s Law.
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There has GOT to be more to this story.
You don’t restructure a guy’s contract and then kick him to the curb.
by Jepp The Viking on Sep 10, 2009 12:43 PM CDT reply actions
The last sentence of the Access Vikings "Wade Reactions" article.
Wade’s agent, Jerome Stanley, sent a one-sentence text about the Vikings decision that read: “I believe your behavior defines who you are.”
Ouch.
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Makes me sick! Bobby was no super star but when you needed a 1st down in a clutch and kikk the clock, he was the guy.
Whatever that agents statement meant, Bobby’s behavior and character were second to none. His efforts in the community were heartfelt and not out of seeking glory for himself.
If it were someone big we picked up OK, but from what i see this guy should be washing Bobby’s jock, not replacing him.
I am disappointed in the Vikings at this point. They better hope Harvin is a first year marvel cause Bobyy ain’t there to cover up if he blows it.
that was kill the clock-sorry
Good luck Bobby. Hope a contender picks you up and thanks for being a Viking who had class.
If it isn't one of these then I don't know what the heck
1. The other receivers (harvin, reynaud, johnson) are way farther along than we thought
2. Berrian is hurt worse than we thought (although aren’t johnson and reynaud both pretty good burners?)
3. Bobby talks too much with Urlacher and gives him our deepest darkest secrets
4. Greg Lewis has naked pictures of Chilldress
If it's #4
I never want to see them.
by Eric J. Thompson on Sep 10, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
don't lie Eric
You’ve always wanted a glimpse of the ChillyDog, haha
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I'll -1 myself too
haha
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I hate this move.
Boby Wade was well liked in our locker room. This isn’t bringning in a future HOF QB to provide a general on the field…this is gutting a loyal, productive player for a complete unknown. Wade even cut his salary in half for God’s sake. If Favre didn’t make locker room schims…this just might.
by Jepp The Viking on Sep 10, 2009 1:21 PM CDT reply actions
If Favre didn’t make locker room schims…this just might.
I read a facebook post from Kevin Seifert today that said the Vikings locker room was extremely down and quiet today and Berrian was wearing Wade’s #19.
I understand that its a business, but it can still be sad. I hope none of the players take it too hard, and everyone can keep their head up just fine. Nobody likes to see a friend cut so unexpectedly like that.
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Loyalty my
effin’ @$$.
After this fiasco if we don’t make it to the championship game at least, the Wilf’s need to fire Chilli.
then I can say to him “you want my sympathy? look in the dictionary between sh!! and syphilis, that’s where you’ll find my sympathy.”
by midnightwonder on Sep 10, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
hahaha
+1 for that quote.
If you can't laugh at yourself... Who can you laugh at?
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I looked for Bobby Wade to be our senior receiver this year, for the younger guys…we do have berrian for that though i suppose…but greg lewis? WTF does he bring to the table that Wade didn’t, and he won’t even have any chemistry with the team…just some joe blow to take up a roster spot because he won’t get catches on this team and if he does Childress is an even bigger retard than ever stated before! Chilly you better not screw this season up, i’m really not that upset over Wade being cut…bad day at work…and i have flashbacks of horrible games plans after the first drive…Favre better throw in some audibles haha!
Special Teams
Sounds like Wade didn’t have much to offer on special teams, and with the addition Harvin through the draft he won’t be used much as a WR. So we bring in a back up WR that can play special teams. Sounds smart to me.
SKOL
hadn't thought about that yet
thanks for brining it up! Good point.
Anyone know anything about Lewis’ special team abilities? Could this have really been a ST-oriented decision with so many other supposed, “special team aces” kept on the 53 man roster? I think our special teams unit looks FAR improved even without taking Wade or Lewis into consideration. Hmmmm…
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Maybe
but i dont remember him returning anything for Philly or New England.
by midnightwonder on Sep 10, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
perhaps he provided valuable help
on coverage??
If it turns out that Lewis is a great kickoff coverage guy, then I might be cooler with it. However, if it is strictly a WR-oriented decision, I still do not get it.
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Same here
How do you get rid of that locker room presence and leadership just like that.
by midnightwonder on Sep 10, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Versatile player
Yeah, Lewis plays special teams… if you look at his stats on NFL.com, about the only positions he doesn’t play is as a lineman (offense or defense), and kicker/punter, lol. He has stats listed as a WR, RB, QB (1 passing attempt), and on the defense, and as a KR and PR.
Maybe that sounds like a good thing to Chilly… to me, it sounds like this guy doesn’t fit in anywhere, and lacks the skills to be a real stand-out in any position.
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Roll the Acronym...
Yes, the NFL means Not For Long. It doesn’t matter if you made a clutch catch required for winning the Super Bowl in the past. When somebody who fits the team scheme better becomes available, you lose your locker. The line for getting cut is a very fine one. The better the team, the finer the line. They can’t keep half of anybody. It’s either him or you.
What does Greg Lewis have that Bobby doesn’t? He has experience at and ability to play all of the wide receiver positions. Injuries are part of the game, and putting someone on the field as close in skill to the starter you lost as you can is part of the coach’s job responsibility.
Both men are good receivers. The both have seven years of playing time in the NFL. Greg is only two inches taller, but as the old saying goes, it’s a game of inches. The bottom line is that utility in various situations is what keeps many a player on a roster at the fringe.
NFL, it’s in the game.
Thanks Elgar
I didn’t know he was that versitile. I thought it was an even swap. It still bugs me though…you ask a guy to take a pay cut then axe him 2 weeks later. Karma is going to Effe somebody up in vikings management.
by midnightwonder on Sep 10, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
NFL applies to managers too. Having to decide who stays and who goes is not just a power trip, it comes with the territory. It’s not just a whim. Childress knows his job continuance depends on making the best choices. If he gets get fired, he will want to be able to look back and feel he did everything he felt he could have done to win, even if it is unpopular. If you can’t stand blood, you can’t be a surgeon. If you can’t stand to fire people, you can’t be a head coach.
this may be true but other than some guesses about versatility and possible special teams contributions (which even if true don’t overcome a lack of receiving skills), how is greg lewis and improvement over bobby wade?
by iseepurplepeople on Sep 10, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I said on this site that they should release Wade.
Because he is average at best with no upside. All the other WRs have shown more ability and play making skills so Wade is out. He is an overrated blocker at 5’10, 185lbs and by no means is he strong for his size.
Good job. Wade will play 3rd or 4th WR for another team that lacks depth.
Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!
Yeah, I get that
And I am glad we kept Reynaud and Johnson, but do you think that Greg Lewis has more upside and playmaking skills than Wade?
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sorry
I see now that you just recently answered this question further up top.
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-- The almighty Manimal
Wasn't Wade our backup punt returner?
He may not break one but he’s sure handed and will get us 3 yards everytime! Could be that Mr. Lewis is just better at that aspect also….guess we’ll see.
Good points Elgar.
we've thrown close to 100 comments out there
regarding this topic, but we’ve missed Eric’s most pressing question…
Or are you only focused on how many hundreds of yards AP will rack up on Sunday?
I say at least 400.
“All Day versus a hurricane?? ALLLLL Day.”
If you can't laugh at yourself... Who can you laugh at?
The Packers, that’s who.
-- The almighty Manimal
But what if
“The hurricane’s name was Hurricane All Day?
Ahh…All Day turdy-seven, hurricane tree."
by Eric J. Thompson on Sep 10, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Farewell, Bobby
You gave a lot to this team and to its fans which will be remembered.
Best of luck to you wherever you go from here.
no sir, i don't like it.
i don’t like it at all. i know wade is no franchise player. he’s marginal at best. but he’s one of those guys that can be an example of work ethic in the locker room and he produces on the field.
this move really bothers me. we now have berrian who has never had a 1000 yard season (i know there are reason for this) and who is also hurt. we also have rice who is one bad year from becoming a bust in my opinion. i hope this is his year but he has yet to show it. we have harvin who has yet to play a single down in the nfl. we have johnson and reynaud neither of which has caught a single pass in the nfl.
let’s suppose that none of these new guys (harvin, johnson, reynaud) pan out like we hope this year and rice continues his anemic play from the previous 2 seasons. that leaves us with a gimpy berrian and greg lewis. 2 years ago, bobby wade was far and away our best receiver. could greg lewis fill that role if necessary? i don’t think so.
i remember watching lewis play in philly (i’m an SU fan) and he’s one of the crap receivers that philly has employed over the years (freddie michell? todd pinkston? greg lewis?)
i gaurantee you that 2 out of the 4 young guys won’t do much this season and we’re going to have to rely on greg lewis at some point. he may have some versatility in the offense but i’d rather have wade. wade has proven he can move the chains.
by iseepurplepeople on Sep 10, 2009 3:03 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
+19
yup
If you can't laugh at yourself... Who can you laugh at?
The Packers, that’s who.
-- The almighty Manimal
Didn't like it at first, but . . .
This is a good sign. This means that Harvin has shown enough to those in charge to have the confidence to let go of Wade. They obviously want Harvin on the field as much as possible, and had Wade remained with the team and ended up just hanging out on the sideline most of the game… well… then, because of Wade, his mouth, and popularity, it could have caused . . . A Schism.
And nobody wants a schism.
But seriously, I think this shows confidence in all of our young receivers. And I like that…As long as it works out.
Minnesota fans are dumb
Why does everyone hate Childress?!?!
Everyone acts like we would have done so much better in the past if we had a better coach. Well, all I remember from the Denny Green and Tice eras were mediocre teams (besides one) that could get ahead, and would ALWAYS blow it!
Childress has built the most solid foundation of a football franchise in three years that we have seen in a long time in Minnesota. Signing Hutch, trading for J. Allen, drafting A.P. (that was easy though), signing Favre, resigning Winfield, letting go of an overpaid-all-about-myself-go-for-INTs-instead-of-playing-my-position Darren Sharper, building and maintaining one of the best defenses in the league (which is much more important than a good offense), I do not understand why he is so hated.
All you fools will love him and the decisions he made when we win.
Bandwagons and homers, that’s all most Minnesota sports fans are…
Credit where it's due?
Why are you going so far out of your way to give Childress credit for everything positive on this team?
Signing Hutch, well lets see, would you like to sign the best left guard in football to your team? Let me think, umm… yes. It’s up to ownership, money managers and lawyers to put the money on the table and write the poison pills to get it done. Sign Jared Allen. Again would you like the best pass rushing D-End in the NFL? These weren’t brilliant moves by Chili. All he had to do was say yes and let the suits do the work.
If cutting Sharper because he can’t play his position was such a brilliant move why didn’t he do it two years ago? Maybe because anyone could see that he had lost a step last year?
Then you want to give him credit for putting together our defense? He has nothing to do with our defense. Tomlinson and Frazier have handled that without much input from Chili and all the marquee players (Williams Wall, EJ, Winfield, and even Sharper) were in place when he got here.
I didn’t know if Tice had the pedigree to be a head coach in the NFL, and he made some mistakes, but the fact is he took a team with A LOT less talent than the Vikings had last year, and ZERO support from ownership, to a 9-7 record. When the best Chili has done is 10-6 after adding the NFLs best running back, D-end, L-guard to the mix—not to mention a much better ownership situation. And if you ask me Adrian Peterson by himself is worth more than a single win.
The only thing I can give Childress credit for is his ability to hire D-coordinators, and script the first 10 plays of a game, beyond that I haven’t seen anything above mediocrity from him and a whole lot of ego and arrogance.
Fire Childress!
Something 'off-field' and unsaid as of yet.
I think Bobby did something in the locker room, said something to a ‘presser’, or got himself in trouble ‘off’ the field.
maybe a tangle with the drug testers?
He’s pushed his luck with previous statements about other players/teams.
The rest of the story will come out.
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Sep 10, 2009 4:58 PM CDT reply actions
Just hope
That the Packers or another rival dont pick him up and pump him for info on the Harvin wildcat options or just the whole offense in general. I think he got hosed but you never know what can happen when you are an average player in the league.
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have"
Thomas Jefferson
by RileysCannibalJct on Sep 10, 2009 5:56 PM CDT reply actions
It wouldn't have been a big deal...
Except he took a pay cut to stay on the team. Most guys would not do that. He let the Vikings cut his salary in half, and then a few days later, “Oh yeah, by the way, we’re cutting you. Thanks for taking the pay cut and all, but you’re no longer needed here, even though you showed a huge amount of loyalty by staying with the team for one more year despite losing your job to a rookie.”
Visit:
http://www.vikingvigil.com
Skol Vikings!
Woot Woot!
Exactly
When a guy gives up over a million bucks to stay in the Purple, because that’s what management needed him to do, and then they do this a few days later, it rubs the wrong way.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
tells me...
something was up. failed a drug test? off field trouble?
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Sep 11, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
The Price for 6 WRs?
Maybe that’s what this is really about… keeping the extra bodies in the WRs might mean that they need someone to cover more positions, and this is the price that had to be paid… just guessing, but that seemed possible.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
Good luck Bobby
I get the feeling that there is not much love for bald chelpless. ( the C is silent) I hope he knows what he’s doing. Anything less than the NFC championship game is a failure for this team. We got plenty of talent but we are stuck with this coach. We can’t get rid of the jerk unless he fails miserably and no team can afford to waste a season. Remember 15-1 You never know what the next year brings. Now is the time for us. The window opens and closes fast in this league. Know one knows that more than a Vikings fan. BALD is driving the bus so get on it or get off. I just hope he doesn’t drive it into the lake.
Past examples indicate this is a great move
As I look back at all of the other players that used to play for the Eagles, only to end up getting signed by the Vikings in the past four seasons, I see nothing but incredible success for Greg Lewis. Consider the following names:
Mike McMahon
Koy Detmer
Kelly Holcomb
Todd Pinkston
Hank Baskett
Thomas Tapeh
Artis Hicks
Greg Lewis, put it on the board. Championship!
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And of course, I forget a name
Add Billy McMullen to the list of greatness.
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