The Minnesota Vikings and NFL Power Rankings
NFL fans, by and large, love to see the new Power Rankings from various sites that come out every week after games are concluded, and I'm no exception to that rule. However, there's a bit of a differential. . .a schism, if you will. . .about where the Minnesota Vikings should be ranked, according to different sources.
For example, the folks at ESPN have declared the Vikings to be the #5 team in the NFL, with writer Jeffri Chadiha simply stating "So far, so good with Brett Favre in charge." SI.com's Peter King has even higher praise, saying that the Vikings are the second-best team in the NFL after two weeks, behind only the Baltimore Ravens.
"We just were ... the best word I can think of is slow,'' Brad Childress said over the phone from Detroit, alluding to the first few Sunday drives by the Vikings. But the Vikes woke up, and Brett Favre played like a 25-year-old. Or 35-year-old. Whatever. Imagine playing on the road, against a team with a fired-up crowd, indoors, and your 39-year-old quarterback has four incompletions all day.
Yes. . .hard to imagine. Or, at least, it would be if we hadn't all seen it with our own eyes on Sunday.
Pete Prisco at CBS Sports has the Beloved Purple at #7 in the league, but he wonders what will happen when the Vikings have to throw to win. I don't know, Pete. . .but I'm guessing the Vikings will be just fine. Also, having Adrian Peterson usually means that the occasions where you "have to throw to win" are relatively few and far between.
However, it wouldn't be an article about the Vikings and the media if there weren't at least a couple of people willing to throw water on the Vikings, would it? Don Banks from SI.com reminds us. . .as though we needed reminding. . .that the Vikings have beaten two teams "that combined to go 4-28 last year." Big deal. Winning road games is huge in the NFL, regardless of who they come against. Contrast that to the Packers. . .who Banks and everybody else in the media was in love with going into the regular season. . .playing two games at home, winning one because the opposing quarterback seemed to really, really like throwing the football to their team more than his own, and losing one to a team that went 4-11-1 in 2008, all while displaying what might be the worst offensive line in the league. (Seriously, I think Antwan Odom just sacked Aaron Rodgers again.) Or the Bears, who were fortunate enough to have Jeff Reed miss two field goals that he'd usually make on a sloppy track at Soldier Field.
Aren't the Vikings better than both their division rivals? Well. . .not if you ask Michael Silver of Yahoo! Sports.
In Silver's "32 Questions" column for this week, which also serves as his Power Rankings, Mr. Silver has given the Vikings a prestigious rank of. . .#16 in the NFL? Really? Behind such teams as. . .
-Dallas, whose quarterback looked absolutely craptastic in what has been the most hyped-up game of the year thus far
-Philadelphia, who just gave up 40+ points to Drew Brees and company at home
-New England, who just finished a game where they didn't score an offensive touchdown
-Green Bay AND Chicago, as noted above
Seriously. Power rankings are pretty subjective and everything, but I don't think there are many folks that are insane enough to propose that there are fifteen teams in the NFL right now that are better than the Minnesota Vikings. Probably because there aren't.
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The only thing dumber than power rankings are college football rankings, because those are supposed to actually mean something.
As a sportswriter that has had to compile rankings before, I find the whole thing dumb and tedious. I’ve seen a lot of outlets rank the Baltimore Ravens No. 1. This is fine and cool but haven’t they given up a lot of points and yards through the air? Point being, no one knows anything ever.
End of rant.
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by mjschaefer on Sep 23, 2009 8:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Power rankings are worthless.
But they do give us something to talk about.
Visit:
http://www.vikingvigil.com
Skol Vikings!
Woot Woot!
by Manimal on Sep 23, 2009 8:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bingo!
I don’t pay attention to any of that crap. The only thing that matters is who makes the playoffs and who doesn’t.
by VikingBillArlingtonVA on Sep 23, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two weeks in, the Vikings are first in point differential and 2nd in DVOA (behind only the Saints, and DVOA attempts a quality-of-competition adjustment).
Lord knows they’re far from a flawless team and I can understand the skepticism about giving them an elite rating; and of course numbers over a two-week span can change in a blink of an eye; but rating them middle-of-the-league seems predicated more on grinding axes and/or pre-season preconceived notions than what’s happened on Sundays thus far.
by jianfu on Sep 23, 2009 8:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They are legitimately
a top 8 team. ESPN had some breakdown where they show the compiled average ranks as well as the range. At the end of the day we are talking about perceived strength…so why go with a single writers perspective when you can get a compilation on ESPN and at least get some differences of opinion to help separate the crap from those who actually attempt to analyze.
by TheEvilProfessor on Sep 23, 2009 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correction
I misspoke: DVOA is not adjusted for opponent yet (which makes sense). Apologies.
Nevertheless, the numbers suggest the Vikings have dominated two likely doormats. That’s what good teams are supposed to do. Like I said, I understand being skeptical about ranking them top 5, but 16th or whatever seems like a stretch, too. I mean, they might end up there, but as of now there’s little evidence of that.
by jianfu on Sep 23, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DVOA vs VOA
The opponent adjustments occur after week 4, and that’s when the rankings are officially DVOA. Until then it’s just VOA.
[Defense-adjusted Value Over Average]
FO has updated playoff odds to include week 2 and things look good for Minnesota at this point. They’ve got the Saints and the Vikings with byes during wild card weekend, with Seattle and New York (Giants) winning their divisions. WCs are likely PHI and CHI. I’d be OK with Minnesota playing any of those teams in the playoffs (even Philly, who’s Jim Johnson-less defense won’t have Tarvaris Jackson to play with this year).
by peterplaysbass on Sep 23, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We are up there
Lets see where we stand about 6 games in. We will have played some good teams and see how we fared. Personally I like flying under the radar but with Bret & AD thats like standing on the corner naked. You are going to get noticed & arrested. The team needs to just stay focused and pile up the wins. It doesn’t matter how we get them. Ranked 2nd or 16th are just opinions. What do you think the ranking of the 87 Twins would have been. There is only one goal. Take care of the little goals one at a time.
Win the division,get home field, play well in the playoffs, win in Miami. Lets enjoy the ride along the way. As Vikings fans what do we have to lose that we haven’t already lost in the past anyway.
by iowaron on Sep 23, 2009 9:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Vikings vs Ravens
Will that be a clash of two 5-0 teams? That would be pretty fun.
by peterplaysbass on Sep 23, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's who I picked for the Super Bowl before the season started...
by ericj69 on Sep 23, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really!
Not a bad pick. I didn’t expect the Ravens to be so good. I thought the defense would age and Flacco would have a sophomore slump kind of season.
Good for Birk. I hope he finds much success in Baltimore, but not at the expense of the Vikings!
by peterplaysbass on Sep 23, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not so sure they are "so good"
They beat two AFC West teams so they better not plan the parade route quite yet.
RIP Bodhi - Not tragic to die doing what you love. You want the ultimate thrill, you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
by craig in calgary on Sep 23, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
The same argument can be made for us though I guess
by loafrat on Sep 23, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Touche.
RIP Bodhi - Not tragic to die doing what you love. You want the ultimate thrill, you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
by craig in calgary on Sep 23, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We didn’t have 20+ points hung up on us in the games though. Once Scott and Ryan left, the defense seemingly lost a bit of its bite. Excluding Lewis’ stop last week. That was pretty awesome.
by Frost on Sep 24, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bills v. Vikings
Not that it could happen… but 1 team wins their first SB, the other goes 0-5
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Sep 23, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair...
we HAVE only played the hapless Browns and Lions, and now bring in those oh so great 49ers who can only beat up on their own sorry division rivals so far. Maybe we’ll start getting the respect after playing better teams? I don’t think beating Shaun Hill or a rookie QB making his second start impresses people that much. Maybe if we can shut down Gore and not let him pull a Kevin Smith in the first half.
Go Nevada Wolf Pack!
by BacksThePack on Sep 23, 2009 10:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Beating SF is essential
Doesn’t matter much who they’ve beaten. They’re 2-0. And Willis and that D shut down AD to the tune of 14 car, 3 yds when they last met. This will be a test. Beating them (regardless of Hill being their QB) will go a long way with media types.
Really though, I’m content to fly under the radar right now. Look at the Broncos. After all their offseason crap, they’re 2-0 and first in a weak division. Meh.
by Yotum on Sep 23, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Vikings will get respect by beating good teams
Not craptastic ones like the Lions and the Browns.
Having said that, you can only play who is on your schedule…
Cleveland is horrible, and Detroit is historically bad… but that’s who there was to play.
The Niners have beaten the defending NFC champs, and Seattle who had blown out the Rams the week before… they are 2-0 against much better teams than the Vikings have played.
The Niners are 7-4 under Singletary.
My point? The Niners are actually a good test to see where the Vikings are at. If the Vikings beat them (as they are “supposed” to) then they have passed the first good test of the season.
If not?
Then at least Vikings fans know where they are at.
by sabbath999 on Sep 25, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love reading Silver, but come on!
At least he moved us up to the top half, if just barely.
I think the only teams you can make a legitimate argument for ranking ahead of the Vikes so far are: BAL, NO, NYG, NYJ, ATL, PIT, and IND. Maybe PHI, considering they’re on QB#2.
by Bismuth on Sep 23, 2009 10:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why?
NYJ? IND?
"We Szekelys have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-Bram Stoker
by NMVike on Sep 23, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They’re both 2-0 against better teams than the Vikes have faced, and each have one very dominant win.
by Bismuth on Sep 23, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I guess
I can see NYJ ahead of us for now since they handled the Texans and beat the Patriots. But I dont think that Patriots victory will be as big 2 months from now because the Pats arent that good, should be 0-2.
But Indy barely beat Jax and Miami. And Miami dominated them the whole game. I would say right now we should look better than Indy to the media guys, but I understand why we dont.
"We Szekelys have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-Bram Stoker
by NMVike on Sep 23, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus, I didn’t say I believed those teams were all better than the Vikes, just that it was arguable.
I must have been smoking something earlier though, when I said IND had a dominant win… for some reason I thought they had beat JAX something like 27-7.
by Bismuth on Sep 23, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even Sprots illlistrated noticed
Great job Gonzo. Even got linked by SI.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/teams/minnesota-vikings/
by Stubby83 on Sep 23, 2009 11:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
FOX has the Vikings down 3 spots to #8
NO WORRIES: They never have to worry about trying to tackle Adrian Peterson. After two weeks, it’s Peterson vs. Drew Brees for league MVP. TIME TO WORRY: Don’t get all hot and bothered over the Vikes yet, not after beating two of the league’s three worst teams so far — and trailing at halftime against both teams.
They had at least put the Purple ahead of the rest of the division with the Packers #15, Bears #17, and Detroit #30.
It may take a village to raise a child, but it takes a Viking to raze a village.
by Luft Krigare on Sep 23, 2009 12:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Try not to get too exercised about them
They will all be on the trash heap in 4 days anyway.
To be fair, wondering (and worrying) what will happen when we have to throw, and/or when we play a team that is not at the bottom of the rankings, is not that outlandish a question. If it is, then there are many regular posters at this site who are guilty of it too.
by puddnhead on Sep 23, 2009 12:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think thats fully true
I believe the Vikings are going to kick some ass this season. Hopefully go all the way. Just because I think they should doesn’t mean they will. I still have yet to see us up against a team that I deem good enough to count as a legitimate match up.
by loafrat on Sep 23, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying they can't do it
I only said that it’s legitimate, understandable, reasonable to wonder if they can. Given that they haven’t actually done it yet.
by puddnhead on Sep 23, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Early prediction
Rankings are fine and all, but when the year is over where do the teams end up? The answer to that question is what matters. My preseason prediction was that the two SB teams would be the Vikings vs. the Ravens (much like one ranking has them 1 and 2). This is not easy for me to say since I am a Packers fan. Some of you probably know that since I declare that every time I post something on here (which probably isn’t necessary anymore).
I find it absurd that rankings occur this early in the season. Yet fans like to see them because they want to know where their teams stack up according to the “experts”. It gives them a reason to smile or complain. Either way, they read them. In the end, that is what the writers want. Gonzo reads the rankings, and I’ll venture a guess that most of you read them too.
Oh, as for my prediction in the SB?
I have the Vikings winning big, by 14 points. So far, Favre’s arm has not had to throw 40 times a game and Peterson hasn’t had to carry 30+ times a game. The Vikings are playing for the long haul. I expect them to play deep into the playoffs. Their only challenger will be the Saints. No AFC teams match up against these two NFC teams right now.
By season’s end, you might see a race for MVP between Brees and Peterson…and surprisingly Favre (who sets career highs for completion percentage and lows for INTs with a high # of TDs). At first I thought he might throw few TDs, but I’ve changed my mind. This team is going to throw it at the goal line. Opponents will not know what to expect. That is why the Vikings will win it all. Favre.
by starmark on Sep 23, 2009 12:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He will get them all
with Harvin slant/dump off passes or Shiancoe (ala Bubba Franks style) TE TD passes (just like last week). That AP shallow dump off out is the perfect decoy. Either they don’t defend it…or they bite and Shiancoe is wide open. You can’t just ask one defender to cover AP.
by TheEvilProfessor on Sep 23, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, if but only this could be what Bevell is thinking too....
TiggerSr
by TiggerSr on Sep 23, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NFL Power Rankings
Of course they’re worthless but It’s another thing to occupy us fans before next week’s game.
by kenbomc on Sep 23, 2009 1:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The futility of comparing this years teams to last years records
Every year it’s the same story, a team starts out the season and the only thing people have to say is “they beat 2 teams with lsoing records last year”. First off you can’t compare last season to this season, it’s over, it’s in the books. Each season is it’s own as well as each team.We made a change at quaterback in Minnesota and now everyone is screaming Super Bowl champs……I’ll wait until it actually happens. The Bears beat the champs from last year, and the Patriots couldn’t score a TD in their loss, that should tell you something right there. Let’s see how people fare against the Browns and Lions come midseason. How good would the “experts” look if one of the division leaders lost to a Detroit, or Cleveland team. I prefer to think that the proof is in this years performance and note last years or the previous 3 years. Sorry I have been on winless teams one season only to have the same team and 95% of the original players come back the next season and win championships. However I sure as hell never ran around after the first 2 games claiming we were the best.
by Sixmark on Sep 23, 2009 1:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Rams 4-12
Anyone remember the greatest show on turf. 4-12 to Superbowl champions. Every year there are surprise teams. Its all about coming together as a team. A few key players via free agency or the draft. This league in my opinion has 3 levels the 4 to 6 teams that when they play well will seldom lose thats the elite. Then about 20 teams in the middle that can beat each other and do every week. Then last half a dozen that will win a few against the 20 when they play well and when they play each other, and 9 times out of 10 its at home. The Vikes are an elite team. When they play well for 60 minutes only a handful of teams have a shot at beating them and they will have to play well to do it. Every team has a just plain bad game.
I’m sure somewhere along the way we will to. I just hope its not in the playoffs.
by iowaron on Sep 23, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Elephant of Surprise
Rankings, smankings. Flying under the radar is goodness.
Heck, when radar was a pup, the Japanese didn’t even have to do that. Those dizzy guys up the hill with their new-fangled electical gadget must be nuts. It’s probably a flock of seagulls. Yeah, they probably picked up our planes returning to base or something. You can’t fly to Hawaii from Japan. Pearl Harbor is safe, because it’s simply too shallow to drop torpedoes in.
Hmm, seems they have new shallow-running torpedoes… Oh crap…
For those who love conspiracy theories, consider this one. Summer, 2009: Favre and Childress can actually read and understand the ranking of the opponents in the early Minnesota schedule. Brett says he can tune up in the opening games. Why risk an injury in training camp? Heck, maybe we can even spot them some points in those early games and come back, making it look like we’re rather shaky. Yeah, that’s the ticket. I mean, why paint a bull’s eye on your chest when you don’t have to?
Perhaps on a Monday in October would be the right time to enveil the fully operational Death Star, eh coach?
Surprises anyone?
Back in Roman times, the Romans never expected some Carthaginian general to bring elephants through the Alps at them, now did they?
by Elgar on Sep 23, 2009 1:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Both
the Japanese and Hannibal lost those wars and had their home lands decimated. ;)
by Jepp The Viking on Sep 23, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention, the fate of the fully operational Death Star is not something we want to repeat either!
Sometimes, Darth, them taking your bait is not good.
by puddnhead on Sep 23, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bulletin board material!
Formerly known as "Andersklasen."
Check out the best Twins' blog on the web: TwinsTarget.com.
by TwinsTarget on Sep 23, 2009 2:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Michael Silver has no comprehension of the NFL. He is way off base and his opinion is worthless. Shame on Yahoo!
by Nordicwarrior on Sep 23, 2009 2:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Vikings rankings
I could accept anything from #2 to #11 right now. Those who make the rankings have several weeks left to get it right while every team proves its worth or doesn’t.
by KC Viking on Sep 23, 2009 3:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Go Vikes
If Favre completes 70% of his passes this year, we win the Super Bowl hands down…..he is doing his job right now by just turning and handing it off to AP and completing the 3rd and mediums…..I hear people say that we beat two crappy teams but yet I see teams like GB who lost to the Bengals at home…..im not worried about the purple people eaters im just getting buckled up for an exciting ride into Febuary
by VikingVelvetHammer on Sep 23, 2009 9:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I disagree. High completions are good, no doubt, but little dump-offs are how he’s getting them. Eventually, it won’t work. Now if he gets 70% completion while throwing for 15+ yard gains, that’s something else, but we’ll have to wait for that until he feels comfortable.
by Frost on Sep 24, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man...
Rooting for Brett Favre to be successful….
It just seems… disgusting…
by sabbath999 on Sep 25, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How odd is it?
Being 27th in total offensive yards and 4th in points scored? Sounds pretty damn productive if you asked me.
by PurpleJesus on Sep 23, 2009 11:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
#1 defense will do that
I think the vikings are #1 in total defense in the NFC. Plus the turnover margin. Plus they seem to either go three and out or score a TD on most drives. They make those few yards count.
by Sand0 on Sep 24, 2009 7:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That just tells me
that once the vikings get rolling they can’t be stopped on that drive. Kind of backs up the Favre needing the rythm and timing between he and tehe WR. Once everyone gets on the same page…they will put up a lot of points and make it look effortless.
by TheEvilProfessor on Sep 24, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It tells me something else
The Browns and the Lions are horrible.
by sabbath999 on Sep 25, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And none of those points are a defensive TD either, which is even more remarkable. This offense is looking pretty potent. I can’t wait until Favre is comfortable enough to take bigger chunks of yards through the air.
by Frost on Sep 24, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre helps a lot in the red zone,
that’s where the quick-release bullets really pay off, moreso than in the deep passing game.
by Migrant lurker on Sep 24, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And, of course...
All of those quick release pick-6’s the guy throws.
by sabbath999 on Sep 25, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ALL?
I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Sep 25, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Certainly
Far different than the old “get to the redzone and fizzle out” that we have all known.
by PurpleJesus on Sep 24, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
to get to #1...
..or better yet, to get deep into postseason…they still need to shore up pass protection and run D… but i think it will get better as season goes.
by BranFavrenton on Sep 24, 2009 2:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What are the redzone
stats for the vikings? I have to think they rank pretty high in efficiency there. Not to many get to the 15 and kick a field goal drives.
by TheEvilProfessor on Sep 24, 2009 2:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just thinking...
Does the team that is #1 in power rankings get some sort of prize at the end of the season?
Does ANYONE remember who the #1 power ranked team was last year at the end of the regular season?
by New Mexico Purple on Sep 24, 2009 4:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
who REALY cares...
like they say “at the end of the day, it doesn’t matter who does what, the bottom line is, who won?”
by horsefly on Sep 24, 2009 7:22 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm a little leery of the Vikings having to throw to win
I’m a little leery of the Vikings having to throw to win. Even with Brett Favre. Did you see the quick slant to Shiancoe inside the 10 yard line, last Sunday? Shiancoe has Childress’s ridiculous “hook-stop-and-catch” so ingrained into him that the pass was almost intercepted because Favre actually led Shiancoe, and Shiancoe had hooked and stopped. In order to have a good passing game, the receivers are going to have to unlearn Childress’s “hook-stop-and-catch” passing philosophy.
by aladdinwa on Sep 24, 2009 7:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't be concerned yet
They haven’t really tried to throw much. Chilly is no dummy despite what people like to think about him. He has a QB who can throw downfield and WR’s that can go get it. When the time comes, it will be executed properly.
by Sand0 on Sep 24, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I remember that play
I remember thinking to myslef “WTF is Shiancoe doing, why did he stop.” Didn’t think about that.
Does make you wonder sometimes, some of the “miscommunications” between Favre and receivers in preseason & first two games. I remember some of the very first throws that Favre made in the preseason, that looked like terrible throws, but if you go back & watch them, knowing what was gonna happen, it looked like favre was throwing to the spot that made mroe sense, not the way teh receivers broke. To me.
by puddnhead on Sep 24, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember the throw to Harvin in the corner of the endzone that was a thing of beauty and the defensive back grabbing his jersey twice. I’m not sure how that can happen.
by Salty on Sep 24, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We, Your Neighbors to the Nord....
Us Canuks rank the vikes a little higher…….. http://tsn.ca/fantasy_news/feature/?ID=824
Your Welcome!
by DAKATT on Sep 25, 2009 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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