Daily Norseman: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Sports blogs for fans, by fans.
New Blog: The Boxing Bulletin for Boxing Fans!

Week 3 Post Mortem

Holy.  Crap.

24 hours later, and I am still trying to digest what I saw.  After a day of improbable plays, the Vikings won on the most improbable of all—a 32 yard frozen rope to Cris Carter Greg Lewis, who replaced the unceremoniously dumped Bobby Wade on the eve of the regular season.  It was Lewis’ 4th play of the game.  Not catch.  Play.  It was also his 4th play of the season.

Star-divide

Really?It was the anti-Nate Poole, anti-snatch-defeat-from-the-jaws-of-victory, anti-Tarvaris Jackson/Sage Rosenfels probable finish all rolled into one.  I originally wrote it was the anti-Hail Mary game, but until Favre and Lewis do that in the playoffs, I can’t go to that level.  It was a game that had everything and nothing, all rolled into one.  Typical Adrian Peterson 35 yard burst in the first quarter, then virtually nothing.  Solid Vikings defense, except for the, you know, fourth quarter drive that put the 49ers in the lead.  The special teams gave up and took a touchdown.  And the game also exposed the biggest flaw and the greatest strength of this 2009 Vikings team, both from the same person:  Brett Favre.  He can’t throw the ball almost 50 times every week if the Vikings are going to win consistently, but when you absolutely, positively, need one guy to make one throw, you have Favre do it.

I’ve been a Vikings fan for almost 40 years, and this was one of the five best game endings in Vikings history.  Hell, other than the Kramer to Rashad Hail Mary to beat Cleveland in 1980 that clinched the Central Division, I can’t think of a better ending.

 

On to the grades.

 Run Offense:  C.  The Vikings were effective early, and used the threat of Adrian Peterson to open up the vertical passing game.  But after Peterson’s 35 yard first quarter burst to the right, he was held in check…All Day (get it, all day?).  To their credit, the Vikings stuck with the running game well into the third quarter, but eventually abandoned it and put their fate in the hands of Favre, which they can’t do every week.  Chester Taylor has been virtually invisible through the first three games, and that’s troubling.  Taylor is a substantial run threat, and provides a great change of pace alternative to Peterson, but has been missing in action from a rushing standpoint so far.

Pass Offense:  A, but with an asterisk.  Any throw and catch of that magnitude merits an A, but it was like needing to pull a 100 on the final to get to an A.  There were issues with the passing game, but it was the first 300 yard passing game by a Vikings quarterback in 4 years.  Favre missed a couple of wide open receivers, and said receivers dropped at least 6 balls by my count (I might be off on that, but not by much).  Pass protection was again spotty.  They only gave up two sacks, but Favre was pressured all day long.  He also tried to force a couple throws into double coverage, causing an interception, and had a horrid fourth down throw to Harvin with just over two minutes left in the game that should have been a pick 6 for Dre Bly.  But Oh….MY, how the ending made up for some of that.

Besides the TD to Lewis, there was one other pass that stood out where I thought ‘no way Jackson or Rosenfels makes that throw’.  Late third quarter, Vikes are pinned deep in their territory and its third down and 15, I believe.  Fail to make this conversion and Kluwe is punting from his end zone.  I looked at my Dad and we both said at the same time ‘screen pass to Taylor’.  Instead,  Favre drops back, and throws the ball to a well covered Bernard Berrian (who had a forgettable game otherwise) with an opening about the size of a postage stamp.  Berrian catches the ball near the first down marker and runs to the 41.  First down, Vikings.  Maybe 10 guys in the world can make that throw, and no way Rosenfels or Jackson even try.

Run Defense:  A.  Coming into this game, if you had told me that the Vikings would hold San Francisco to 58 yards rushing, Favre would throw for 300 yards and 2 TD’s, San Francisco would go 0-11 on third down conversions, and Percy Harvin would score a TD on a kickoff return, I would have assumed that the Vikings win the game by three scores.  This was the vaunted Williams Wall we’ve been waiting for, and the Vikings did a much better job of gap discipline this week.  The defensive line was more disruptive, and when the Niners tried to run to the perimeter, the defense did a very good job of stringing out the play.  Glenn Coffee made a couple of nice runs in the third quarter, but overall Minnesota did a very good job of making San Francisco one dimensional.

Pass Defense:  B-.  If you take out the monster game and clutch catches Vernon Davis had, this was a very solid performance.  But you  can’t, so it wasn’t.  The Vikings smothered the 49ers in the first half, but Shaun Hill found Isaac Bruce and Vernon Davis almost at will in the second half.  The Vikings were as porous in the second half as they were impregnable in the first.  The pass rush started out very strong, with a Jared Allen sack on the first play, but that was it.  Pressure on the QB was intermittent at best for the rest of the game, and Hill had ample time to find open receivers on San Francisco’s second half scoring drives.  But when Minnesota’s defense had to make a stop at the end of the game, they did.

Special Teams:  D, with an asterisk.  Percy Harvin’s kick return was like pulling a 100 on the semester final to avoid abject failure.  I think if the Vikings go in the locker room up 16-7 as opposed to down 14-13, I think the second half is completely different and the last second heroics probably aren’t necessary.  Harvin’s kick return was huge and provided a much needed momentum shift, but the reason the Vikings needed that was because of the blocked FG that the Niners returned for a score at the end of the first half.  If the special teams units continue to give up big plays like that on a regular basis, the Vikings will lose a critical game that might cost them a division title or playoff berth.  It’s tough to look at the positives, but Harvin was a big one.  His speed is incredible, and he has a legitimate chance to go the distance on every kickoff return.  Darius Reynaud is as an exciting punt returner as Harvin is kick returner, and a significant injury to him will adversely affect the punt return team.  But they cannot yield another special teams score this year and continue to win football games, they just can’t.

Coaching:  B.  I like the game plan the Vikes had going into the game—run Adrian Peterson, even if he doesn’t get big chunks of yards, take the lead so the 49ers have to play catch up (putting the game in Shaun Hill's hands), and go downfield when the opportunity presents itself.  For the first 29:59, it was working almost perfectly.  Peterson was okay but not dominant, Favre threw a 30 yard TD dart to Sidney Rice, and the Vikes dominated almost the entire first half.  They were poised to take a 16-7 lead against a very good team, and everything fell apart.  Minnesota still tried to run the ball in the third quarter, but the Vikings abandoned the run at about the right time and looked to Favre to get them the win.  And he did.  Statistically, both offense and defense played well, but there were some critical breakdowns in the second half, and the game was on the verge of getting away from the good guys.  I give them an overall B because finally, FINALLY, there was a two minute drive from the Vikings that was crisp, effective, and showed a sense of urgency.  And yeah, I panned cutting Bobby Wade for Greg Lewis a few weeks back, but maybe Brad Childress knows what the hell he’s doing.  A win is a win, and the Vikings are 3-0.  I’ll take that any day of the week.

Bring on the Packers

This FanPost was created by a registered user of The Daily Norseman, and does not necessarily reflect the views of the staff of the site. However, since this is a community, that view is no less important.

0 recs  |  Comment 18 comments

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

The hidden cancer

I’ve said this before. But I’m sorry, I just don’t think it can be said enough. That and it seems no one agrees with me for some reason.

The ONLY reason we have been even remotely decent at running the ball this year is AD’s uncanny ability to break it to the outside when there is nothing to work with on the inside. And there has been very little (almost nothing) to work with in the middle all season. There is something seriously wrong with the way the line is playing. They can not move anyone in the running game and can’t stop anyone in the pass rush. The reason Chester looks like he has been underperforming is simply because AD is OVERperforming. No knock on him, but Chester just lacks ADs ability to make something huge out of nothing by sprinting sideways. When Chester sees the lack of holes to run through he has less physical options than does Peterson. So he takes what he can and it has proven to be much.

by Jayrome007 on Sep 28, 2009 6:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree to a point

To say there’s been nothing to work with all season isn’t completely accurate, I don’t think. Although AD’s 4th quarter Cleveland run was epic, I recall that they were gashing them pretty well in the second half between the tackles. Same for Detroit, at least in the second half.

San Francisco was a different animal—-fast defense that pursues very well, and a 3-4 scheme is a different look. And you’re right, there wasn’t anything there, and pass protection has been poor overall.

Good point about Chester Taylor. Can make things happen if there’s running lanes, but he doesn’t have the physical skills of Peterson. But then, who does?

Seriously wrong? Not seriously wrong, but there are problems that need to be corrected, and the competition is only going to get tougher.

So I write a blog, like everyone else on the Internet: www.purplebuckeye.blogspot.com

by MilCardFan on Sep 28, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get my vote

I’ve said we should have resigned Burk. Pro bowl center vs.average center,it does make a differance. Our O’line is good but not great. A few blocks per game doesn’t seem like much but with A.P. running the rock that is HUGE. Its something that we are going to have to deal with. Favre is smarter with the ball than Tjack or Sage would be but the old man sure is taking a beating. I’ve made the comment about Tjack coming in for a few plays per game in the wildcat. If we can’t protect Favre we can at least try to save him a hit or too. We have to do something. Its a long season. We need Favre for the playoffs. He will never make it at this pace.

by iowaron on Sep 28, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

85 Yards

When you have Adrian Peterson carrying the ball, you don’t expect him to be limited to 85 yards against the SF 49’ers. They’re a great team and all, but they’re not the Steelers, and they’re not the Ravens. AP IS the greatest RB in pro football today, he’s done miracles against consistently rough odds, but at some point along the way you have to start asking… why isn’t the O-line as good as their reputation suggests they should be? Yes, they did great on that play against Cleveland, but when AP is averaging stupid-low yardage, I have to consider one of three things; Either AP is slacking off, or the D is top of the NFL solid, OR… he’s not getting the running lanes he should be able to expect the O-line to produce. Seeing how many sacks our O-line gives up, I don’t think this is AP’s fault.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Sep 29, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Enjoy this one 4 now

I’m with you on the 16-7 vs. 14-13. That play for the 49ers changed the whole game.
They went in at half winning after losing the 1st half. They must be thinking that they got a horseshoe up their assterik. Our special teams has to get better. That block was a ten point swing plus 7 from the other game. Thats 17 points in three games. Way Way to much in this league. We were lucky to overcome it. I was impressed with Hill’s passing on their final T.D. drive. He was spot on the money. I’ve always said that you can’t defend the perfect pass and he put them right in there with plenty of purple around. I’m just glad we had our own perfect pass at the end.

by iowaron on Sep 28, 2009 6:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, 16-7 and it's a different ballgame

And Hill was impressive. Hell, the whole 49ers team was impressive.

So I write a blog, like everyone else on the Internet: www.purplebuckeye.blogspot.com

by MilCardFan on Sep 28, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Impressive, yes

But they aren’t the Steelers, and they aren’t the Ravens, and we have to get by BOTH of those guys before we get to the playoffs. Between now and then, we need to get better at the O-line, both rush-blocking and pass-blocking.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Sep 29, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well... it's no secret...

this team is going to run the ball, run it again, and just when you think we might not run… we will.
defenses are getting paid well to plug the gaps and attack the line of scrimmage with blitzes… it’s how you counter a ‘run first and then run again’ offense.
I agree with you that it is AP’s extraordinary gift that has him leading the league in rushing yards…
but that is what he is paid to do. This O-Line is a work in progress and continues to get better.
Even when they are fully gelled and starting to look strong a very good defense will disrupt the gaps and we will continue to rely on AP to do his thing.
final thought… aren’t 3-4s designed to be run stoppers?

I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Sep 28, 2009 6:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice post MilCardFan!

I like your writing style and wish I had the same ability. keep it up!

I believe the 'push off' cost us 'our' SuperBowl...
I believe you 'go for the win'... instead of 'taking a knee'...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Sep 28, 2009 7:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!

So I write a blog, like everyone else on the Internet: www.purplebuckeye.blogspot.com

by MilCardFan on Sep 28, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tough game to give out grades

What do you give the passing game with a finish like that? Too many drops. The pass into double coverage doesn’t bother me. It hit the receiver in the hands. There were some nice 3rd and long passes. I don’t think Favre looked really sharp at times. I thought he might be rattled there for a while. And he did miss some open receivers including on the critical series before the finale.

The pass defense was a bit scary if you ask me. They are limited in their weapons and still managed a bunch of critical throws. There weren’t any wide open guys, just nice throws and big old Vernon the TE. The flip side are the 3rd down passes defensed. Zero for 11 3rd downs is crazy good.

Special teams were great and awful.

Coaching I’d like to see more early play action and mix a reverse in there somewhere with Harvin. Maybe use some different blocking techniques for sweeps. Running off tackle when they know you’re going to do it can be great if you’re winning the battle, but better to do it more later at least IMO. I think all the passing was the nature of the game. Get behind and Bevel starts dialing up the plays and its deja vu.

I guess I’d go lower for pass defense and coaching. Maybe higher for special teams. Tough game to grade though.

by Salty on Sep 28, 2009 8:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Grading games like this one is pointless in my opinion because you are constantly talking in extremes. There are games like that. Its the mark of a game played by two really teams both playing really well at different moments.

We won, we dominated the first half and our pass offense stepped up when they needed to. Special teams gave up 1 play but they got one back. Its a wash.

Lets focus on the packers now.

We are the vikings.......resistance is futile.

by Hoss-Drone on Sep 28, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

*Really good teams playing really well

We are the vikings.......resistance is futile.

by Hoss-Drone on Sep 28, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If There's a Game, You Can Grade It!

Great post!

One play that I haven’t seen mentioned anywhere was Cedric’s INT. That was a pretty darn good catch twisting around like that and keeping his feet in bounds, too.

Bring it on, Pack!

by JasonAve6413 on Sep 28, 2009 10:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WOW

I looked at my Dad and we both said at the same time ‘screen pass to Taylor’.

i said the exact same thing to my dad while we were watchign the game

incredible

by YanksVikes on Sep 28, 2009 10:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's funny

I bet we aren’t the only father-son Viking diehards that did that. My guess would number in the thousands, lol.

So I write a blog, like everyone else on the Internet: www.purplebuckeye.blogspot.com

by MilCardFan on Sep 29, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Defensive Line

Against the Pack in week four, my single biggest worry is getting pressure on Aaron Rodgers. Fox didn’t show the game, so all I’ve seen is Sportscenter highlights. =(

It sounds like we didn’t do very well against S.F.s front 5 and that is troubling. A group composed of Allen, Williams, Williams and Edwards should be causing serious trouble for the offense on 50+% of plays. I wonder if the fact that J.A.s personal coach Bob Karmelowicz is now working for Detroit has anything to do with this.

Can anyone who watched the game fill in a bit more information?

by zebano on Sep 30, 2009 10:06 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

DN strives to be the best blog about the Minnesota Vikings on the internet, doing so with a unique blend of insight and analysis, as well as (hopefully) wit and humor. We hope you enjoy the site, and make it your home for Minnesota Vikings info!
Start posting about the Vikings »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Dodge_front_small
Comparing '98 to '09, Defense
Vikings_logo_small
FOX wants to nickname the Vikings defensive line
Dodge_front_small
Good-Bye, Bad-Bye

Recent FanPosts

Vyke_small
IF...
Throwdpeterson_small
Brett Favre, The 40-Year-Old Version: 'It's amazing,' says sack king Michael Strahan
Viking_flag_small
The Beginning of the End
Vikings_small
Place Your Bets...Cutler
Vikings_small
Place Your Bets...Rodgers
Throwdpeterson_small
Quick Fun: Vote: Best Favre Photo!
Percy-harvin_small
Greatest Picks Part 2 (56-09)
Small
We have built it, they will come
Throwdpeterson_small
Update: More Videos! ENJOY!
Small
Iraqi Militants Are Favre Fans???

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

Latest NFL Headlines from SB Nation

Big Blue View
New York Giants News & Notes: Pierce Contract Situation & More
Bolts From The Blue
Week 11 Injury Report: SD @ DEN
Mobile Live
Eagles shuffle linebackers again

Head Coach

Dailynorseman_small Gonzo

Coordinators

Me_at_the_vikings_game_small ericj69

Childress_small Anthony21