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Vikings No Longer Hangin' With Mr. Cooper; Also Announce Practice Squad

Well, Jon Cooper's time as the Vikings' #2 center was, apparently, short-lived, as the Beloved Purple have signed offensive lineman Kory Lichtensteiger to a contract and released the former Sooner.

Lichtensteiger was a fourth-round pick of the Denver Broncos in the 2008 draft, having played his college ball at Bowling Green.  According to Vikings.com, Lichtensteiger played both guard and center for the Falcons, and was named to the All-MAC and Academic All-MAC teams as a senior.  He was also a finalist for the Rimington Trophy, which is given to the best center in college football, and a semi-finalist for the Draddy Trophy, which is considered by many to be the "Academic Heisman."

In addition, as Anthony has already pointed out, the Vikings named their eight-man practice squad.  Ian Johnson surprisingly made it through waivers, as did John David Booty.  Here's the entire group.

S Colt Anderson
QB John David Booty
OT Chris Clark
RB Ian Johnson
DT Tremaine Johnson
TE Garrett Mills
WR Nick Moore
OL Drew Radovich

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Do you know what happened with Vinnie Perreta?

by TommyAck on Sep 6, 2009 7:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

To my knowledge, he hasn’t been signed by any other team.

by Anthony21 on Sep 6, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That practice squad setup seems like the best we could have hoped for, with the three guys (Booty, Johnson, and Mills) I actually gave half a damn about making it through.

by JasonW on Sep 6, 2009 8:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Glad we got Ian back

"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk"

by VikesFaninNM on Sep 6, 2009 9:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

also glad

we got Radovich back and what do we know about this guy from Denver?

by kdog69 on Sep 6, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know the practice squad acts as sort of a scout team, but how does it work? I mean, with only 6 O guys and 2 D guys, do they just mix in with the regular players? Do you try to have certain positions on the practice squad, or would they slip in a Corner instead of a Safety, or some Linebackers, or 5 D guys and 3 O guys….?

Curious!

by JasonAve6413 on Sep 6, 2009 10:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How it works...

in practice is often not revealed in detail and varies by team and by each weekly situation, but essentially, the practice squad players, along with other players from the 53-man roster will play their normal positions and try to simulate what is known from film of the playbook of the next opposing team for that game. Perhaps J. D. Booty is given certain plays expected from the Browns and gets to do his impression of Brady Quinn. If the third string QB were one of the eight 53 regular roster players picked not to dress this particular Sunday, he might get to play the part of Derek Anderson. Or Booty could play both QB parts. If the Vikings played a team with a dominant defensive end, the part could even be played at times by Jared Allen for added realism. Usually, a player plays his normal position. What actually happens is whatever the head coach feels best prepares his team as a whole for the next opponent.

The practice squad players can be called up to the active roster of any NFL team without compensation to their signed team, so they have a kind of quasi-free-agent status, but since they learn their team’s playbook and were chosen by that team’s coaches, it is more likely they get called up by their own team should a regular player be lost due to injury. For that reason, teams try to have potential backups on the practice team to cover a variety of positions, as well as to form a complete scout team to practice against.

So, even though Ian Johnson or Booty are on the Vikings practice squad, they could still get called up by the Packers or any other NFL team if placed on that teams regular roster and the Vikings are on their own to replace them with someone else. This may seem a little weird or even unfair, but it prevents teams from stockpiling ringers on their practice squad to perpetuate a dynasty, and it gives the practice squad player (who makes considerably less money) more movitation to play well and get a shot to move up to the big stage.

by Elgar on Sep 7, 2009 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!

That clears it up quite nicely.

by JasonAve6413 on Sep 7, 2009 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is a shame in some respects

With no minor league system to work out of, I feel that is a team is playing a player which was about 65 grand (a couple years back) and that player signs that contract, then he should belong to that team.
I am sure you have better info than I do, Elgar but are you sure that they can be taken by a team that easy?
My God son was in that position with the Bucs and was released one day into his tenure on practice squad.
I’m not saying you are wrong. I just don’t recall him saying he could be plucked by any other team at that point.
Reason I ask is that there is that waiver period after cuts. Seems to me that is where a team takes the risk on losing players they cut. I am wondering if the reserve contract holds some 1st rights to a player? Say someone comes in and wants to pluck Johnson. Can they just do it before the Vikings could say “no” we will move him up to protect us from that happening?
If you could find the answer let me know.
On the flip side, it is great that we can keep Johnson and Booty. Especially Johnson.
I still think there is potential in Booty. With all the time we invested in Tjax maybe some time will help Booty. We realy didn’t invest much training time in for him and thought he looked better this year. He may be destined to be a carrer backup but if we get an offer for Jax or Copter during the season that is too good to pass up, at least we have a #3 that knows the playbook and in my opinion is a hard working kid.

by CitrusFLViking on Sep 7, 2009 9:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I still think Sage makes too many mistakes for a guy that doesn’t make a lot of big plays downfield. He is going into his eighth season and has not ever been named a starter for a reason.
Booty has been said to have a weak arm but when I watch the tape on him he seems to have zip on the ball and can get it downfield. I’m not sure about him though.

I know you don’t like T.Jack but he knows the offense better than Sage and made a lot less mistakes in the preseason. Like I have stated before enter Sage as our starter last year and we still don’t get the win against Philly. But to each his own. Neither would probably lead us to the Superbowl. I do see potential in T.Jack, but admittedly could be blinded by his athletisism rather than lack of decision making.

I agree Ian Johnson is good but how did he clear waivers?

Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!

by VikesPma on Sep 7, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Either...

the mystic triangle of authority is getting really smart or really lucky. Everyone will have their own take on that issue, and who really can tell???

But guys like Warwick Dunn and other household names are still on the street with all of their NFL credentials, so how great is the need for another running back these days? To sign Ian, you have to think that your own rostered RB is a putz, and showing that to fans might raise embarassing questions, not to mention what the fans will be saying if Ian tears up a knee after you signed him. It’s ticket sales we’re talking here.

Sometimes the devil you know seems like your best friend.

by Elgar on Sep 7, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

“I still think Sage makes too many mistakes for a guy that doesn’t make a lot of big plays downfield. He is going into his eighth season and has not ever been named a starter for a reason.”

Didn’t we know that before we signed him for $3m/yr though?

by puddnhead on Sep 8, 2009 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

absolutely. that’s why we gave him veteran qb backup money.

by iseepurplepeople on Sep 8, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

According to NFL rules:

“…a player under contract to a club as a Practice Squad player is completely free to sign a contract with another NFL club during the season in order to be on the second club’s Active/Inactive list. A practice squad player may not sign an NFL Player Contract with his Club’s next opponent later than 4:00 P.M., New York time, on the sixth day preceding the game (except in bye weeks, when the prohibition commences on the tenth day preceding the game). If another club signs a Practice Squad player to its 53-man roster, it does not have to provide any sort of compensation to the player’s former club, but it generally must keep the player on the 53-man roster for at least 3 weeks, thereby mandating that he earns the minimum first year salary for said 3-week period…”

“…a team can add and release players from the practice squad as often as it desires and the eight (8) man limit does not have to be maintained. A player may be on the practice squad for two seasons; three weeks on the practice squad count as a season. An otherwise eligible player may be a practice squad player for a third season only if the Club by which he is employed that season has at least 53 players on its Active/Inactive List during the entire period of his employment. "

As far as I know, a practice player made an offer by another team could go to his home club and ask for a better deal. The catch is, that would mean someone else would need to be cut from the 53-man roster of his home club. The man cut would have to clear waivers to reach the practice squad, and no doubt would be rather peaved. Even though this stuff is in the NFL rules. that doesn’t mean some scenario similar to what happened with acquiring Hutch from the Seahawks wouldn’t play out, somewhat like Hatfields and McCoys. The NFL may be strictly business, but no one ever said its owners do not get emotional.

by Elgar on Sep 7, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Elgar

Great reearch and clarification. Appreciated.

by CitrusFLViking on Sep 7, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the lack of a minor league system

is probably what the UFL is counting on to make their venture fly. Probably they are wrong, since there’s a recession going on. Heck, in the Bay Area, people are not flocking to see the Niners or the Raiders. Who thinks they will wander over to see Denny Green and a team of rejects in green shirts called the Redwoods? The UFL must be very confused. Denny is not Paul Brown coaching a team called the Browns.

by Elgar on Sep 7, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even if 2 or 3 teams could combine

to form a twelve team developmental league it might still work. Man, the NFL invested millions into the European failure, but even small markets that pack their college venues would make them some money more so than the overseas idea. Think of a list of cities that would take some pride in sponsoring their own NFL minor league team. Knowing that the players are owned by teams that may be future big leaguers. Like Elgar says, stay ou tof markets where people identify heavily with a franchise. The Orlando thing is stupid too. Those folks support the Bucs.
If DNer’s ran the idea, what cities would you start with in a 12 team minor system? I’ll lead off a few and you add/or delete and add how we would set it up.
The 1st few I would hit are: Salt Lake, Portland, Okla. City, Birmingham, Louisville, Columbia, SC (although a littleattached to the Panters but their minor outlet), Omaha (maybe if combined with an Iowa connection), Little Rock, San Antonio (minor for the Boys and Texans), Memphis (folks felt snubbed when they built in Nashville but an Indy/Titans farm club. Columbus (picks up Cincy and Clev), Hartford, West VA (Pitt , Philly and Wash. affiliate), possibly a Montana or Idaho team-big football fans) . Madison, WS (for Pack and Bears), Western Mich area ??? Vikes and Lions, bu tthe Neb/Iowa franchise would be a better outlet for the Vikes.
It would certainly be an interesting plan and if done right a $ maker for the NFL and local economies.
These player won’t make much bu tmore than in the regular job marlet and they are the property of the team that pays them as injury insurance. A few of the player would be contracted by the minor team itself . If they develop a player and a NFL team wants or needs them they get paid.
I could use a job. Call Rodger and see if he’’l hire a few of us to put this together. :)
Just seems a regional plan might work

by CitrusFLViking on Sep 7, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ian a welcome surprise

I’m almost amazed he didn’t get picked up by teams such as the Bengals, Jaguars, or even St.Louis. Teams that either have first time starters or injury plagued RBs should have given this kid a look. Anyway I’m glad they didn’t and now the Vikes are so deep at running back its scary.

Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!

by VikesPma on Sep 7, 2009 9:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Great if we loose CT next year

Given A Young’s performance and the ability to bring Johnson up from the PS, I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t resign Chester Taylor. It would be a very small downgrade and free up cap space. I certainly don’t want Chester to leave, but this seems like one of those places where finances will come into play.

by ChemErik on Sep 7, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chester

Would be the best option. If we could pay him what he is making now , or less, it would be a bargain. That is why Ian and Albert are good to have around. In 2 years these guys would have enough to fill a lot of teams backfield needs.
Problem with Chester is going to be, how much will he be worth on the open market. His age may make it lower, but the fact he is durable and has not taken a beating as a full time starter (save one year) will be his agents selling point. I know it would be mine if I were his agent.
Vikes need to look at it in perspective and maybe act sooner rather than later. A 2 -3 year extension with a high guarentee might be the answer.
If Ian does not get picked up, we sign him to a contract for next year if it looks like Chester is gonna shop himself.

by CitrusFLViking on Sep 8, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chester deserves it!

He deserves to be a free agent and choose a team that fits him best. He has earned it with accepting a downgraded role when AP came in, still making plays and being the ultimate professional. Young, Johnson and oh we should still have that Harvin fellow so depth behind AP will not be an issue without Chester.

Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!

by VikesPma on Sep 8, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ian

I’m amazed that he would want to stay with Minnesota. We obv have the best RB in the league and the best backup in the league. He won’t get a shot this year because of ineffectiveness. The same can’t be said for a bunch of other NFL teams. I can’t believe that MN is the only team that offered him a practice squad spot…

by ajmargarine on Sep 7, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ian Johnson wants to be a Viking

If I’m not mistaken, he came to the Vikings, wanting to play for them and them alone. Hopefully, the Vikings give him a shot either this year or next. I’d hate to see him stuck on the practice squad and then leave for another team once his eligibility is up.

by Eric The Viking on Sep 8, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Players Links

Clicked on Colt Anderson’s link hoping to get more info, and it loops back to a headline about “practice squad”. Can we work on this? Maybe there could be a Bio page for all the players? Sure glad Colt made it onto the practice squad. He was a beast at Montana.

by BigSkyViking on Sep 7, 2009 1:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Update

Actually Cooper is now back, on practice squad, and Radovich is gone to make room for him.

by puddnhead on Sep 8, 2009 8:32 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Poor Radovich

I still like that guy, it’s a shame to see him cut. Again.

by Eric The Viking on Sep 8, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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