Ahhhhhh, the Green, Green Turf of Home
by Christopher Gates on Jan 11, 2010 5:59 PM CST
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So, to listen to the NFL experts since Saturday evening, one would think that it's a fait accompli that the Dallas Cowboys are going to make up half of the NFC Championship game next weekend against whoever wins the shootout between the Saints and Cardinals on Saturday. After all, the Dallas defense is on a roll, having given up a total of 14 points in their last three games, looking invincible on defense, Tony Romo and company destroying anything that moves offensively, and all that good stuff.
That's all well and good. Honestly, Dallas might. . .might. . .be playing the best football in the NFL right now. But contrary to popular belief, the Minnesota Vikings didn't go 12-4 by accident. Minnesota was second in the NFL in scoring this season, nearly a full touchdown better than the Cowboys in that department (29.4 points/game for Minnesota, 22.6 points/game for Dallas). They led the NFL in sacks. They had everyone wondering what was "wrong" with their star running back despite the fact that said back rushed for nearly 1,400 yards and led the NFL in rushing touchdowns with 18.
This Sunday's matchup should be a good one, fought by two very good and complete teams. But there's one thing that should give Viking fans a great deal of confidence in the Beloved Purple this weekend.
The turf.
Yes, this game being played on the artificial surface of the Metrodome is what sways this game Minnesota's way, in my opinion. Want some proof? Our good friend Pacifist Viking put these little numbers together.
The Vikings have played 10 games on the turf this year. . .their eight home games, as well as games at Detroit and St. Louis.
Minnesota's record in those 10 games? 10-0.
Average points scored in those 10 games? 32.7
Average points allowed in those 10 games? 14.7
Contrast that to the six games they've played on the natural surface. In those games, they have two wins against four losses, are scoring 23.8 points/game (which is still pretty darn good), but they're allowing 27.5 points/game (which certainly is not). But on turf, the Vikings have beaten good teams (Baltimore, Green Bay, Cincinnati), bad teams, and in-between teams. There's a reason that they were the only team in the NFC to finish the year with an unblemished mark at home.
There's no reason for Viking fans not to keep the faith, ladies and gentlemen. Win this one, and there will be at least one more game on the fast track this year. . .whether it's making a trip to the Big Easy to take on the Saints, or playing at Thunderdome against a Cardinals team that the Vikings will be looking for revenge on.
Man. . .is it Sunday yet?
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Great Article. Totally agree. Lets also not forget that these “awesome” cowboys whooped on the same divisional opponent twice, preceeded by another divisional opponent who sucked and a Saints team that had been riding nothing but luck for 2 weeks.
Before that in december against other teams….oh yeah, they lost.
Its called home field advantage for a reason. As long as we come out fired up to all hell and our big boys in the trenches execute – we can win.
We are the vikings.......resistance is futile.
Great Post Gonzo!
And I agree – Is it Sunday yet?! This week is going to drag, but at least we have this awesome blog site to keep us occupied eh? Our guys our stoked, no doubt about it! Ugh, I can’t wait to see our purple play and kick some Dallas butt! SKOOOOLLL!!!
New to the cut and paste stuff
http://www.wdio.com/article/stories/S1357424.shtml?cat=10335
It seems packer fans are wife-beating mad that they lost last night.
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have"
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by RileysCannibalJct on Jan 11, 2010 6:19 PM CST reply actions
Wow it worked.... : )
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have"
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by RileysCannibalJct on Jan 11, 2010 6:20 PM CST up reply actions
yea really
I am sure that alcohol was NOT a factor…
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have"
Thomas Jefferson
by RileysCannibalJct on Jan 11, 2010 6:27 PM CST up reply actions
He was quoted as saying,
“And then Rodgers dropped back to pass, and then he went JUST LIKE THIS!!”
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by Christopher Gates on Jan 11, 2010 6:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
ha ha ha
exactly…..
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have"
Thomas Jefferson
by RileysCannibalJct on Jan 11, 2010 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
I have heard that
there is a very real correlation between domestic abuse/disturbances and packers losses. will see if there is an article…
nope
it occurs with all nfl teams, my bad
http://pochp.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/nfl-losses-triggers-domestic-violence/
From a Cowboys fan....
Really looking forward to Sunday.
Two storied, old time rivals mixing it up in that insane asylum you call a dome. It’s gonna be nuts.
That said (and I only speak for myself)…. the media is only going to jump on our bandwagon because they are out of hate-lines for us.
Cowboys can’t win in December; Haven’t won a final game of the season in 10 years; The Eagles own the Cowboys; Romo can’t win a big game; Cowboys can’t win in the playoffs.
We caught them so off guard…. what else can they say? They might have been wrong about us this year or just jump on our bandwagon? Oh no, the mediots are never wrong.. are they? LOL
Well, for me, I wish they’d stay off, and leave it to these two great teams to decide who’ll play in the NFC Championship game. It’s gonna be a good one.
well said...
I wish it were Sunday. Gonna be fun
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have"
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by RileysCannibalJct on Jan 11, 2010 6:29 PM CST up reply actions
I won't go as far as Greg Jennings did in the Arizona pregame interview and say:
“I’m not worried about the Arizona Cardinals” – Greg Jennings
But I will say that a lot of us were hoping the Cowboys would win for a reason. We wanted to play them. They should be scared.
If you're scared
get a dog. Btw…what do you think the Cowboys play on? What do you think they beat the Saints on? It was turf, gentlemen. Is Bryant McKinnie gonna be able to get out of his stance before DeMarcus Ware hits your boy, Favre?
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by DatNguyenNguyenScenario on Jan 11, 2010 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know
Is the Cowboys’ defense going to be as effective against an offense that can actually show some sort of balance as they were against a Washington team that actively sucks and a Philly team that everyone knows can’t run the football and can’t stop the run?
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by Christopher Gates on Jan 11, 2010 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
Vikes were the number two scoring offense.
Dallas has already shut down the 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 5th.
You keep your turf, and give me Ware, Spencer, and Ratliff, and I won’t mind at all.
"I hope they become a 'Doomsday'. I hope they consider this bunch better than any of the other ones. I want them to do well. I want people to say they're better than the group I played with. That would make me very happy." -Randy White
by Big D Bam Bam on Jan 11, 2010 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
It's not just the turf
I have respect for your D. The problem you face is noise. Romo has played well but he has cracked under pressure & he is going to get pressure. Do you honestly believe that our D can’t put as much pressure on your QB as you put on ours. Yeah you can rattle our cage, just remember we are going to rattle yours right back. I’m betting on our QB to make less mistakes than yours. Who would you rather have Favre or Romo. I rest my case. Our QB has 33 TD’s 7int’s whats yours got.
I think you are working off incorrect assumptions.
Romo has played well but he has cracked under pressure
Not really true when discussing him as a qb. As a holder though, different story.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 11, 2010 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
You mean the one that went straight through RWs hands before it popped off of Asante's face?
I’d hardly count that one against him. There was the one he floated early, and that’s on him, but that kind of play happens all the time.
"I hope they become a 'Doomsday'. I hope they consider this bunch better than any of the other ones. I want them to do well. I want people to say they're better than the group I played with. That would make me very happy." -Randy White
by Big D Bam Bam on Jan 12, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
He tried to get away with one, and he did.
Nothing Favre hasn’t done a million times.
"I hope they become a 'Doomsday'. I hope they consider this bunch better than any of the other ones. I want them to do well. I want people to say they're better than the group I played with. That would make me very happy." -Randy White
by Big D Bam Bam on Jan 12, 2010 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
Flozell has problem with noise
There’s our biggest problem – he is partly deaf in his right ear (the ear facing the center/qb), which is why he often has false-start penalties in road games.
Forget about winning and losing; forget about pride and pain. Let your opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let him smash into your flesh and you fracture his bones; let him fracture your bones and you take his life. Do not be concerned with escaping safely - lay your life before him. - Bruce Lee
You might as well chalk up a false start or two now.
He’s opposite Jared Allen at home. He’s gonna jump
Marine by trade, Cowboys fan by birth.
Speak not with your mouth, but through your actions.
I do have my questions about your pass rush rattling Romo.
In recent games, they’ve had trouble getting to Cutler, trouble getting to Moore, and both carved them up. Even in the course of beating Green Bay twice, Aaron Rodgers had two games with QB ratings well over a hundred, with 5 TDs and one pick.
The rush was never able to get to Warner, and he ate them alive.
Romo, in my opinion, is better than all of those guys. In his last seven games, he’s thrown 13 touchdowns with two picks, both on deflections. In every game but one, he’s had a rating over 104.
In the first eight games of the season, Minn had 31 sacks. In the last eight, they’ve had 17, four against a half dead NY team. I’m respectfully aware of their ability, but these aren’t numbers that keep me up at night. Neither is the minus-one turnover differential they posted over that span.
As for Favre, I’m a fan. Even growing up in Dallas, he was my favorite QB, and the first player who’s jersey I ever bought. He’s had a phenomenal, MVP-caliber year. But he’s 2-9 against the Cowboys for his career, and the last time he saw a Wade Phillips defense in the postseason, he became the first Green Bay QB to lose a playoff game at home. The last time he saw this defense in particular (2007), he got knocked out of the game before the first half was over.
Different years and different teams maybe, but this thread is all about history and trends, and I think that that trend is just as valid as any other.
"I hope they become a 'Doomsday'. I hope they consider this bunch better than any of the other ones. I want them to do well. I want people to say they're better than the group I played with. That would make me very happy." -Randy White
by Big D Bam Bam on Jan 12, 2010 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
You think Romo is better than Warner
HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!
The man had more TD’s than missed passes…. Sorry man I know your on Romo’s junk but he’s not there yet.
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by cryhavoc on Jan 12, 2010 3:02 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Amusing, but frankly, it smacks of way too much effort. You could have just hit reply, called him delusional and saved the 45 minutes of your life it took putting this together…
by Boundforbeach on Jan 12, 2010 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
that's not how we roll on Daily Norseman...
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by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 12, 2010 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
too funny… Then I applaud the over the top effort!
by Boundforbeach on Jan 12, 2010 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
likewise.
it has depth.
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by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 12, 2010 9:45 PM CST up reply actions
Vikes are favored
The Vikes are favored and playing at home. Dallas has a solid squad but I still like our chances. The Vikes have a little better chance of winning but analysts get so over biased over how well a team was playing coming into the post season that they always go too far one way. Last week every single ESPN analyst picked Green Bay and they lost after a miracle comeback to even go to OT. This week they are all over Dallas.
Vikes are 10-0 on turf with an average margin of victory of 18. This would be higher if not for Chilly’s propensity (excluding the Giants game) towards not running up scores in blowouts. That is sick. Dallas is also quite impressive with a 7-2 record with 10 point margin of victory.
Vikings had a week long bye and most likely focused on preparing for Dallas given the fact that they were our most likely opponent. If the Vikings defense can show up this should be a winnable game. Vikings can put up 30 on Dallas. Best believe that.
Key matchups. Vikings ability to handle the Dallas pass ruch. Much of this hinges on our abilty to establish the run and force Dallas to respect it with their line sets and front seven schemes. Defensively the Vikings must eliminate big plays and establish enough edge rush and run stopping action with the line to stop some drives.
Dallas defense was average in terms of yardage. They give up yards. But they are excellent in the red zone. However, the Vikings are uber bomb in the red zone especially at home. Curious how that plays out. Also Dallas is great at racking up yardage but in terms of points they are just ayight. Vikes must keep their red zone struggles going. Bend but don’t break.
Vikings can put up 30 on Dallas. Best believe that.
I wouldn’t. No team except the Giants has gone over 21 against the Cowboys, and they have given up 14 points in their last 12 quarters of football. If the Vikings win, I would think the score is much more likely to be something like 17-14.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 12, 2010 5:55 PM CST up reply actions
i believe.
I piss people off on a fairly regular basis. I cherish my right to speak my mind, whether I sound like an uneducated savage or not. I've never been accused of keeping what I think a secret, nor will I ever. Don't like it? I don't care.
by IABerserker1 on Jan 12, 2010 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
They held both NO and SD
to their lowest point totals of the year in the preceeding weeks. Dallas has a very strong D, and despite Philly’s imbalance, they still came into the week 17 game with teh 5th best offense in football, and on a 6 game winning streak.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 11, 2010 9:28 PM CST up reply actions
Dallas is hot! So what?
When was the last time they won in the playoffs? 1996. When was the last time they won in the Metrodome? idk, but i’d bet not recently.
The Cowboys will have to actually face an Elite running back, if they focus on shutting #28 down like they should, well Favre may throw 4 TDs. It’ll be a good game, but Dallas is completely full of themselves right now (which they have right to be), I just wouldn’t put it past the Vikes (who are 8-0 at home) to beat them – but BSPN won’t tell you that because America’s team is so hot right now no one can touch them, lol!
The Cowboys should win based on their " hotness," but you Cowboy fans are so cocky right now it’s entertaining. Cheers
I think you are misinterpreting my post
I am not saying the Cowboys will definately win because of their “hotness”, just pointing out that the D is playing very well, and the game will not be a Vikings blowout as some on this blog are proclaiming.
Favre may throw 4 TDs
He might, but it isn’t likely. I think it will be a very close game.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 11, 2010 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
It will be a close game
but I dont’ think it will be a defensive game.
I think we match well, and I think we have some better players on offense, however, I KNOW we have a much crapier coach. So it evens out.. :p
Also, I’ve not seen any blog that even states the Vikes are favored. Vegas is 2.5 odds and everyone knows they tag 3 points on for homefield.
One more point
The last time the Cowboy’s won in the playoffs was actually 3 days ago. The 1996 statistic is irrelevant, as only one player on the current team has been around or the entirety of that streak.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 11, 2010 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
1996 would be relevant had they lost though… of course we wouldn’t be having this discussion either.
Any given Sunday.
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by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 11, 2010 10:11 PM CST up reply actions
Their fans are bizzarely cocky
It reminded me of Yankees fans. I checked one guy’s profile and sure as shit – a Yankees/Cowboys fan.
Well
There’s also a yanqui/Viking fan on DN. Goes together like ketchup and chocolate cake to me.
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by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jan 12, 2010 10:38 PM CST up reply actions
My point was in reference to strong Defensive play
And we lost that game due to an inability to convert short yardage goal-kline situations (something that seems to have been fixed) and poor FG kicking (by a player no longer on the team.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 11, 2010 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
The Saints
had a higher rushing average than the Vikings this year. Saints couldn’t run the ball at all against the Cowboys. The last team that ran the ball effectively against the Cowboys was Ryan Grant with 79 yards. That’s it.
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by DatNguyenNguyenScenario on Jan 12, 2010 7:55 AM CST up reply actions
It was 79 yards
not 179. The Cowboys have been pretty consistent stopping the run, OTOH, since you guys have lost EJ Henderson, people have been able to run the ball against you a little bit.
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by DatNguyenNguyenScenario on Jan 12, 2010 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
So much for the leave no child behind program.
If you’re scared get a dog? Try reading what dsludo wrote before you respond. He did not say he was scared, he said the Cowboys should be.
Btw…is that what you did, buy a dog?
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"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
Sad
It is really sad when fans who supposedly support Dallas resort to lame outbursts on a blog for another team. Is the blogosphere in Texas so lame that you have to log onto a Viking blog? Typical Texan, boastful to the end due to an inferiority complex!
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http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2010/1/7/1238099/cowboys-vs-eagles-preview-part-i
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2010/1/8/1240317/cowboys-vs-eagles-preview-part-ii
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I would be more worried if you had EJ Henderson in there on Sunday
your MLB. But you don’t. Your recent play hasn’t been very good, true? You had trouble dealing with the running games of both Carolina and Chicago. That’s right, Chicago. Probably due to not having EJ Henderson in there. You beat a Giants team that had already given up and been eliminated from the playoffs. I’m not trying to talk trash, you obviously have a very good team, otherwise you wouldn’t have a first-round bye. But maybe due to the schism create by Childress and Favre being at odds, your team isn’t playing as well as they did earlier this year. Isn’t there some controversy up there about the team getting last week off? Trust me, the heat coming from the press will create a team under pressure. And I haven’t even gotten into the matchups of the Cowboys defense against your offense. Our defensive line has been bringing a lot of heat on QBs recently, you guys haven’t been running the ball consistently and that is the Cowboys’ priority above all other things, stopping the run. The goal will be to get you in 3rd and 6 or longer so they can really bring the heat on Favre. It doesn’t help that McKinnie and Loadholt have not held up well against good pass rushers which the Cowboys have on the outside. That’s not even beginning to mention Jay Ratliff, our Pro Bowl NT, who led all 3-4 nose tackles with 6 sacks, an amazing number for a NT. I think the Cowboys will have problems moving the ball though, a little bit. If the OTs for the ‘Boys can keep Allen and Edwards off Romo, he’ll find the openings because you guys will admit your safeties are poor. We just played a team with poor safeties and you saw the results. We do have some weaknesses at safety at times but because of our pressure it hasn’t been an issue. When teams can block us up like the Chargers and the Giants have, then those safeties get exposed a bit. Do you have faith your offensive line can block it up with 5 or 6?
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by DatNguyenNguyenScenario on Jan 12, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
Win-win.... I like it.
We were also missing phat pat during the Chicago game. That had a little more to do with their success than EJs absence. But it was certainly a double-whammy.
by Bjorno on Jan 12, 2010 7:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Im a big cowboys fan but vikings fan get props for attitude
just for you vikings fans i just got to say u have much more class than eagles fans. im used to the cowgirls comments as u guys probably are to the Viqueens comments. just saying its nice to have some actual football banter instead of “cowgirls suck, jerry jones suck and tony homo comment”. u guys just got class. both teams are playing good and the matchup problems discussed make me excited to blog. BTW TEs for both teams pose huge problems and i would have to say turf doesnt matter but i believe Dline play will b the difference.
+1
But somebody has to lose and I hope it’s the Cowgirls…lol Kidding
Why Do People Question The Vikings' Status?
by UnBannedVikingholic on Jan 12, 2010 7:12 AM CST up reply actions
Yea, I can’t wait to see Phony Homo get eaten up by the Rhinestone Cowboy.
We are classy, to a point.
That point is about three pints.
by Bjorno on Jan 12, 2010 7:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
;)
Forgot to include the necessary emoticons to convey that I was making a joke.
by Bjorno on Jan 12, 2010 7:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I figured that out quickly
i too like the pints. mite of even emptied some when i was writing blogs. i just have to watch my spelling cuz im from Montana and dont want to appear to inbred or redneck. Giants fans are idiots and the eagles fans jerks. I was just trying to give the gray bush viqueens fans some credit. although some are insanely arrogant i gather that about some other cowboys fans. And for the record i despise the yankees. None of my teams have won a championship since 1995 so no frontrunning here.
Harvin should go off in this game. AP and Sidney will have too much of their attention.
As long as (Jim)Saucer moves over to help on whatever side Ware is coming from Favre should have time. I don’t think Jenkins, Newman or anybody else the Cowboys have can cover Rice. With enough help from the safeties Austin could be held in check, but that guy is tought to tackle. No arm tackling Austin.
Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!
Dbl teaming D-Ware is key
The Vikes will need to dbl team D-Ware with Kleinsasser. They can’t leave it up to Mckinnie or Loadholt to do it themselves. AP may need to pick-up on some key-blocks as well.
You know allen will get chipped a lot if not Olined double teamed
I do believe Peppers kinda got a run cuz the coaches didnt adjust to his side. im praying the cowboys 2 effective rushers cause problems but allen scares me. im from MT and i saw Allen play against my college in the Big Sky. pretty big steal in the 4th round?
Yea the Chiefs sent him
LJ, And Tony Gonz away! Idk what they were thinking!
Why Do People Question The Vikings' Status?
by UnBannedVikingholic on Jan 12, 2010 7:17 AM CST up reply actions
Should be a good game
but the Cowboys certainly are not easy-beats as many of you are seeming to suggest. In the past 5 weeks, we held the #4 best scoring team in the league in SD to their lowest point total of the year, kept the #1 offensive unit in the NFL to their lowest point total of the year, shut out Washington and Philly, then held Philadelphia (the #5 offense to less than half thier average point/ game).
This D unit is playing very well, and while the VIkings do score on average seven points more than the Cowboys, during the 4 game win streak, we are only giving up 7.8 points per game.
Believe
I totally agree Aussie
I think the big thing is that it’s aggravating as a Vikings’ fan that the media has basically taken a huge dump on our team, as if they are not worthy of being in the playoffs, and it is ludicrous for them to even show up to the Dome to face the “unstoppable” Cowboys.
Ware and Spencer scare the h*ll out of me, based on our OTs, but I think it will be a lot closer game than media is showing. I think it will be a close game.
Fair comments
I think these are two really good teams, maybe the two best in the NFC right now. I have no doubts about the Vikes. They are a solid team, top to bottom.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Brett Brett Brett
all we heard all freaking offseason leading right up to the start of the season was all about Brett Brett Brett – and we still hear all about Brett – his little sideline tantrum, will he retire? will he not? can he win another playoff game? does he look good in wranglers? on and on, Brett Brett Brett. So to say the media is only focused on the Cowboys I think is wrong. In fact I think the Brett Favre storyline and the Cowboys storyline makes for great drama – the media is going to exploit it to death.
Of course the Vikings are worthy of being in the playoffs – they had a great regular season, earned the #2 seed, and will stout come Sunday. I agree it will be a close, hard fought, exciting game.
Forget about winning and losing; forget about pride and pain. Let your opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let him smash into your flesh and you fracture his bones; let him fracture your bones and you take his life. Do not be concerned with escaping safely - lay your life before him. - Bruce Lee
will BE stout come Sunday
Forget about winning and losing; forget about pride and pain. Let your opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let him smash into your flesh and you fracture his bones; let him fracture your bones and you take his life. Do not be concerned with escaping safely - lay your life before him. - Bruce Lee
You must be reading some sort of gossip rag
if you describe it as a “tantrum.”
I think the world is pretty sick of hearing about the Cowboys, their stadium, their freaky owner, Romo et cetera. Are you sure you’re not upset that its just the interruption to the non-stop coverage of the Texas version of the Yankees that is bothering you?
Farve's press coverage > all of the Cowboys coverage combined
BTW Brett is having a great year and looking better than ever.
Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK
U have Favre
dont u think the world is just a little tired of hearing about him. hes so enamored with himself and the media blew up the chilly and favre fight for a week. and all during camps. the media is always gona cover the most marketable team salty. just saying deal with it
How is he enamored with himself?
As to the media beating stories to death, do you really think who Tony is shagging is all that important? If you don’t like watching their drivel, it isn’t Clockwork Orange. Change the bloomin channel.
You should read Greg Easterbrook’s column(TMQ) from last week. He had some good stuff in there about Favre.
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a s#!t about the rules?!?
you should provide a link when you tease like that.
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by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 12, 2010 10:54 PM CST up reply actions
Here. But I doubt many of you will like it. Also, it was two weeks ago. Sorry.
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a s#!t about the rules?!?
oh. that drivel.
yeah, read that when it came out… went ‘meh’.
much to do about nothing.
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by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 12, 2010 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
Cuz he likes the media attention.
or he wouldnt do the same thing every year before the season. U can quote me when i say hes gona do something again during training camp next year just so he doesnt like camp. Just saying if he didnt like the attention hed take a new approach. like one of those “nagging” injuries that prevent him from OTAs
IF #4 comes back next year and plays for the Vikings...
we expect he won’t do OTAs or early camp. Hell, we won’t even expect a decision before August.
and as far as the media attention goes… that’s the tail wagging the dog.
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by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 12, 2010 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
He likes media attention because he avoids it?
He usually attends training camps. Considering he wasn’t signed and was recovering from arm surgery, its unreasonable – no, stupid – to think that he would just show up.
A torn biceps tendon is what you consider a nagging injury? Other than that, in his long career, can you name another time?
It was because of brett brett brett that they had a great season. The way the media is talking the viks should reserve a tee time instead of showing up for the game.
Vikes by 10
Running
JK, I am wondering if the Vikings fans think that the argument that the Chargers beat the Cowboys is enough in a comparison that the Vikes could do the same using the same blueprint with a better HB than LT in AD.
I don't think our coach is that smart
In reality Childress is an idiot and I truly hope to win in spite of him.
I concur
especially since in tight games, if there are not other crucial factors, such as important turnovers, coaching can make an important difference. We shall see.
We all know that art is not the truth, art is a lie that makes us realize the truth.--Picasso
Your right Spoolinup
The media is treating the Vikes like Rodney Dangerfield. The Cowboys do have a good team but we haven’t lost at home all year. So now when the game really counts for something we are just going lie down and lose. Favre came here for a reason, we aren’t going down without a fight. Actually the eight so called experts at ESPN couldn’t pick their nose. They picked 4 playoff games and only one guy picked 3 out of 4 games right. The others were .500 or worse.
No wonder they are picking Dallas they have to keep their streak alive.
Memories are short. In the Vikes had played last week and destroyed their opponent, you would see alot more love from the mediots, IMO. But I’m not really buying the whole ‘the Vikings are being disrespected’ schtick. They are favored in Vegas and there are going to be plenty of so-called “analysts” picking them to win. And there is going to be enough homage to Brett Favre and related storylines to nauseate even the most die hard Vikes fan.
by Boundforbeach on Jan 12, 2010 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
You underestimate...
a die-hard Vikings fan’s ability to fight off nausea.
Ours is a gut-wrenching past.
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by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 12, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
Lets get this straight
Cowboys didn’t even show up at Lambeau and got trounced by the Pack – Vikes blew the pack away twice including a pasteing at Lambeau – Cowboys lost twice to Giants – Vikes scored like a college game and embaressed them in a complete blowout – So I’m at a loss on why everyone is jumping on the bandwagon but that actually that is a good thing – Let all the media say the Cowboys are going to the super bowl – nothing better than hitting a bees nest with a baseball bat
by favresonfire on Jan 11, 2010 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
Well
I think if that is your argument, then you seriously underestimate the importance of match-ups in NFL games. We just do not match up well with the Giants, hence the two losses. But you played them after their season was over and they had all but given up. Just the week previous they were trounced by the Panthers (who beat you but lost to us, so this pointless argument works both ways).
In reference to the Packers, I dont see how that is really relevant, you played them early and beat them twice. We beat them during the period in which the team struggled. Since then the D and Romo have played lights out. Different team, and to argue that because of those two results the Vikings should automatically win in preposterous. You guys are favourites because of home-field, but the game should be very close.
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 11, 2010 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
So if your team can be "DIFFERENT"
why everyone can’t accept that Brett Favre is a different qb despite his 0-3 playoff record against the Cowboys?
Why Do People Question The Vikings' Status?
by UnBannedVikingholic on Jan 12, 2010 7:21 AM CST up reply actions
Because he played for the Pack then...
Also all three loses were in Dallas. I think this game has the potential to be a GREAT game. I will also say who ever wins this game (I believe it will be the Vikings) will be the team representing the NFC in the Super Bowl.
Where did I mention Brett Farve's playoff record?
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 12, 2010 8:04 AM CST up reply actions
You didn't he's coming in off of a different argument.
Sorry Aussie this is a bit tender now, people aren’t handling the dump off of the Vikes from the media well especially after we were their darlings for so long this season. (We don’t really get a lot of media coverage during most years)
The main point is that I think everyone will agree on is that it will be a good game and if we can contain your two outside LB’s I think we’ll win. If we can’t then well, we’ll probably lose. I really think that’s what this game will come down to. I think we can score more than the Cowboys if we have time, the question is will we be able to manufacture time. If Childress is doing the play calls then I would say nope. If Favre is audibling out there then I start to feel better about the out come.
If I were Dallas fans I would start sending Childress boxes of flowers and candy making sure to write in each of them ‘Dude your the head coach don’t let Favre tell you what to do!!!’
Yeah
We just cant seem to cover Steve Smith or pressure Manning. Their offence gives our D major problems.
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 12, 2010 5:58 PM CST up reply actions
Poor explaination
I was rushed. If you want something in depth, see the two posts I linked to above.
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 12, 2010 11:18 PM CST up reply actions
Carolina was actually 8-8
"Thanks Ed, good hairpiece" - Tony Romo
by robolundgren on Jan 11, 2010 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
But the point is that
we beat them and they beat you. Which goes to show that the fact you beat the Packers and they beat us is a pretty meaningless stat.
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 11, 2010 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
The Vikings aren't good on real grass...
…yet on the artificial stuff, where Dallas will be playing Sunday they’re 10-0, that’s a stat that does matter
Panthers QBs
They used Delhomme early in the season against the Cowboys. At that point, Delhomme was terrible. Against the Vikings, the Panthers used Matt Moore, who surprisingly appears to be a young, rising star.
by medicineball on Jan 11, 2010 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
as another Cowboys fan
I don’t think you can use the pre-New Orleans version of the Cowboys team in comparison to anything. Dallas is a brand-new team.
However, I don’t see a Minnesota win against a quality opponent since the first half of the season. Meanwhile, they lost to Arizona, late-season Carolina, and Chicago. If the Vikings can turn it back on, it should be a great, close game, but I’m not sure if they can.
This is pure trash. What the #$% is a “quality” opponent. If a #3 team in a conference doesn’t qualify as “quality”, then I don’t know what does. The Vikings beat AFC #3 Bengals 30-10 in Week 14. If the Bengals, who were 9-3 coming in, aren’t “quality” I don’t know what is.
These are the play-offs
Everything starts off with a clean slate which is best exemplified by the last two NFC champions who became different teams in the play-offs.
no
First of all, the Bengals were the #4 seed, not the #3. Second, the wheels started to fall off of that team around Week 12. Their offense became dysfunctional, barely squeaking by Cleveland and Detroit before getting beaten by Minnesota. They followed that with losing to San Diego, barely squeaking by Kansas City (a game I watched – it was painful), and then not showing up against the Jets, then getting beaten by the Jets.
Just like late-season Carolina is a quality opponent, late-season Cincinnatti is anything but a quality opponent.
likewise...
the late-season Saints and the late-season Eagles.
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by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 12, 2010 9:57 PM CST up reply actions
Then how do you see it/
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"
Well I would argue that
Points against (the most important defensive statistic IMO) in recent games is quite relevant in the projections for this game, whereas the " we beat them and they beat you therefore we win" circular argument is rather meaningless.
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 12, 2010 6:09 PM CST up reply actions
except you played some pretty shitty teams.....
the eagles, IMO, are kind of a shitty team. not the same since JJ died. anyway, shuttin out the redskins is like winning a gold medal in the special olympics… even though you win, your still retarded….
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by IABerserker1 on Jan 12, 2010 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
Eagles are not bad
and nobody really considered them to be until we dismantled them two weeks in a row. Before that we held the Saints and Chargers to their lowest point totals of the year.
But I agree on the Redskins, they are hopeless.
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 12, 2010 9:25 PM CST up reply actions
There are hundreds of factors to consider
Unless you really want to delve in to them, your sample size is ridiculously small. Vikes have scored about 75 points in the last 5 quarters setting aside the one plus quarter that was garbaage time.
6 game sample size isn't really small.
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 12, 2010 11:19 PM CST up reply actions
how bout we take a sample size of 16 games?
cherry picking games and stats makes us all look like we just stopped trying…..
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by IABerserker1 on Jan 12, 2010 11:57 PM CST up reply actions
Teams change over the course of a year
6 game sample size is plenty.
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 13, 2010 5:19 AM CST up reply actions
6 is all you need to prove your point.....
gotcha
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by IABerserker1 on Jan 13, 2010 7:24 AM CST up reply actions
No if he goes past 6 his point makes no sense
So he’ll hold onto that magic (yet arbitrary) number like the holy cross and wield it in front of him to dispell his doubts.
Why not pick 7 games? 4? heck why not 2? In which case Minnesota does pretty decent again. The only thing that changed for the Cowboys this year was finding Mike Austin. Which was a huge deal. Everything else is just the same team playing different teams.
Pick 7 or 4 It doesn't matter
But to think that teams do not change and evolve over the course of a 16 game season seems ignorant.
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 13, 2010 8:00 AM CST up reply actions
caveat to that
is that basically discounting that your team was pretty bad just before theses last few games is a little shortsighted as well… a team that got taken to OT by the chiefs? and they are, according to you guys, the best team in football…. that whole attitude is just dumb. last year, when we almost lost to the lions, i knew we weren’t going anywhere. all this blustering and posturing by you guys is very telling, let’s just put it that way.
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by IABerserker1 on Jan 13, 2010 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
So we had a bad game against the Chiefs in week 5
so we cannot beat the Vikings? Can you please explain why the Giants are not going to meet the Broncos in the SB if the beginning of the season is so important.
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 13, 2010 10:51 PM CST up reply actions
Well thats a fair enough point
I am just making the point that the Cowboys are not the easy-beats some on this blog seem to think that they are.
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 14, 2010 12:17 AM CST up reply actions
and likewise the Vikings.
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by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 14, 2010 9:21 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think anyone on this blog has said that
I know I havn’t. We may be defending ourselves a bit more zealously now than we did previously but that’s because we’ve been attacked on our own turf, I’m starting to feel like the Indians did.
Lottery?
Wrong sport, I believe you’re thinking of the one with the little round hoops with nets.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
3 of those games were at home. and you lost one of them.
The only road win in those 4 games was the Skins. The Vikings are undefeated at home.
So were the Pats.
I keep hearing “we were undefeated at home”, right after we all watched another high-scoring, home-unbeaten team with a Hall of Fame, championship-pedigreed QB (who had never lost a home playoff game in his entire career) get demolished by a hot team playing good defense.
"I hope they become a 'Doomsday'. I hope they consider this bunch better than any of the other ones. I want them to do well. I want people to say they're better than the group I played with. That would make me very happy." -Randy White
by Big D Bam Bam on Jan 11, 2010 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
who were also missing their #1 offensive weapon… but don’t bring that up.
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by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 11, 2010 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
The guy they stuck in for him had six catches and two TDs.
It’s not like they had their hands tied behind their backs, and that misses the point.
Give me a high-quality defense playing at an insane level, and we can play the game on the moon for all I care.
"I hope they become a 'Doomsday'. I hope they consider this bunch better than any of the other ones. I want them to do well. I want people to say they're better than the group I played with. That would make me very happy." -Randy White
by Big D Bam Bam on Jan 11, 2010 9:45 PM CST up reply actions
that game was over before NE scored their first of 2 TDs… and it was Ravens defensive TDs that put it out of reach… but my argument is that losing your #1 offensive player changes the entire matchup.
Brady’s options were limited and he played like crap, too – which makes the Ravens Defense look ‘insane’
The Patriots were pretty much written off the moment Welker went down. They are NOT the same team without him.
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by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 11, 2010 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
Welker simply isn't a three touchdown difference in that game.
The Ravens pounded them from the word go, and did it with nasty, physical defense, the way you’re supposed to in the playoffs.
"I hope they become a 'Doomsday'. I hope they consider this bunch better than any of the other ones. I want them to do well. I want people to say they're better than the group I played with. That would make me very happy." -Randy White
by Big D Bam Bam on Jan 12, 2010 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
Brady?
He was playing Sunday IIRC. Playing terribly, but he was there.
Edelman was filling in nicely for Welker. The Pats just got smoked by a hungrier team and a superior gameplan. Baltimore wasn’t impressed by their 8-0 home record, just like the Cowboys weren’t impressed by the Saints’ 13-0 overall record.
I'll agree on hungrier
I think that will make a difference in most games in the post season. Personally I hope AD doesn’t eat for the entire week before the game : )
Saints victory was on the Road
against a team who was also undefeated at home, in one of the hardest stadiums to play in.
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 11, 2010 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
against a team who...
…should have lost to the Redskins. Saints peaked against the Pats & have been dropping since then
That accusation could just as easily be made about the Vikes after the second GB win.
"I hope they become a 'Doomsday'. I hope they consider this bunch better than any of the other ones. I want them to do well. I want people to say they're better than the group I played with. That would make me very happy." -Randy White
by Big D Bam Bam on Jan 12, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
I meant the part about peaking and dropping off.
I was saying that the Vikes were the best team in the NFC, even when NO was rolling over everyone, because they played a more balanced game. But there has been some drop off over the second half of the season.
Still a very, very good team, but that’s not something that can be dismissed out of hand.
"I hope they become a 'Doomsday'. I hope they consider this bunch better than any of the other ones. I want them to do well. I want people to say they're better than the group I played with. That would make me very happy." -Randy White
by Big D Bam Bam on Jan 12, 2010 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
I think after the first couple games
they’ve been pretty much the same team. The blip is more Chilly wanting to run the power run game and they don’t have the blocking for it. Whether that is players or coaching, I don’t know. The same team played both halves away, in the cold, on grass against the Bears. One half, the Chilly plan, the second the Favre/Chilly plan.
Your right we have started to slide
And I think it has something to do with EJ being out and our run game not being as dominant as it used to be. Also, our left side of the O Line has been banged up pretty bad this year and was not getting any push.
Lastly and this is where I think you have the best chance of beating us, or coach is an compltely unaldulterated idiot.
An idiot that shows improvement every year.
I’ll take that idiot. No team has drafted as well the past four years and very few coaches have their team get better every year!
Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!
How
How do your defense do against teams with a combination of a great quarterback, great receiving corps including the tight end, and a great running back?
by medicineball on Jan 11, 2010 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
Remember
Jeremy Shockey did not play in your game against the Saints.
by medicineball on Jan 11, 2010 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
All I will say is this
apart from the Giants (who match up very well against us) no team has scored moer than 21 points. So take from that what you will.
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 11, 2010 11:16 PM CST up reply actions
Why do the Giants match up with you so well?
I’m just curious about it, obviously I don’t know as much about the cowboys as you do.
I'm not buying the 'Giants match up well' argument.
First game, Cowboys had 4 turnovers, they had 0 and needed a last second field goal to win by 2.
The second game (in NY) was their make or break game. They had just been embarrassed in Denver. Cowboys took a quick 10-0 lead before the defense gets extremely sloppy (can’t tackle), Barber had a costly fumble and they gave up a punt return for a score.
I will say, Steve Smith lit us up like no other receiver has done this season.
by Road Warrior on Jan 12, 2010 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
Basically we cant cover Steve Smith
(or Manningham in the first game) and Manning this year at least has had more success than most against our D. It is hard to be more specific than that, but when viewing the games, it seems that the Giants style this year has caused problems for the Cowboys.
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 12, 2010 6:02 PM CST up reply actions
It's hard to be more specific than that?
When you’re talking about matchups? BS meter is about to break.
If its an issue of you guys getting schooled by Smith or Manningham, I wouldn’t call that a matchup problem.
If you want better analysis
from one more knowledgable than I, check these posts out:
Cowboys v Giants 1
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by aussie_cowboy on Jan 12, 2010 6:12 PM CST up reply actions
Well, it's really tough to say... this team has evolved in different directions...
but gun to the head (and I know you’ll laugh) the team I feel we had the toughest matchup against was the Packers.
We could do nothing against them. I mean, nothing. Their corners (Woodson was insane) blanketed every receiver. Then, we couldn’t run worth a crap.
I just remember being stunned watching it. I couldn’t take notes… I was just stunned.
And then to see your boys dismantle them like they were last weeks newspaper… yeah, that’s kinda disturbing.
The only other game that I felt we were totally outplayed was against Denver. Once again, they were able to shut down both our run and pass.
by Road Warrior on Jan 12, 2010 7:08 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds like you might have a problem with good QB/Receiver tandems
So it will be interesting to see if Favre can work his magic agaisnt your secondary.
If
We beat the Cowboys and the Cardinals beat the Saints, wouldn’t the Vikings play the Cardinals at the Dome?
based our seeding, you are correct.
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by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 11, 2010 7:41 PM CST up reply actions
As I have said
in my emotional tirade against Dallas in my fanpost. This is the netwerks pre-empting the oncoming takeover of major market teams.
The Viking mean nothing to them. Yet, if they were to search the neutral fans soul i would bet most of them would tune in just as much to see Buffalo (if they got good again( or Minnsota break their curse.
I have to agree as one guy pointed out in my post that there is argument for New Orleans being a candidate for America’s team. Shame is if Jerry Jones, NY, LA (stealing a team.) They will eventually push for no revenue sharing. That is why Jerry is pushing for Minnesota to get a new stadium. So they can survive to be a doormat like the T-wolves and other NBA teams that spent millions building beautiful arenas only to have no fans. Same with the Twins and other major league teams. Yes. we needed a baseball stadium and twins fans will be loyal. Rest aasured the Twins will draw over 2 million the next couple years and despite the revenue, it will not be enough for us to sign free agents to win.
My point. The media wants a Dallas win. A Vikes win will help in the push for a new stadium but if the Jones plan goes through it will mean nothing. The revenue generated will not be enough to help the Vikings compete on an open free agent market. A New Orleans/Vikings, or any small market win will give incentive to show owners and NFL brass that it is worth it to keep the parity when considering a new agreement..
The other point. A Vikings trip to the Super Bowl will prove that the fans will still flock to the Super Bowl and ratings will be high. Maybe enough to make the new collective bargaining agrement fair for all the mid America markets.
We need to offer the Vikings a deal they can count on. Give them the dome, parking concessions, The fans will have to agree to accept a higher ticket price and an added state tax on tickets, souveniers. parking food to soak up losses.
Vikes will have to pay for maintenence, utilities, etc but give the state 3 years to come up with a stadium plan.
It boils down to, we need to win this game for more than the sake of winning, or a Super Bowl will mean as much as a Mpls Lakers title to our children.
The stakes are higher than what we think is just a game. It may save the Vikings for a period long enough to come up with a comprimise for a stadium plan. It will show the NFL that keeping the financial playing field alive is a better product to offer the fans.
Sorry to go on with a long comment. I want to see us win so bad. I had tears welling up thinking about how great it would be for me to see the Vikings win a Super Bowl. How sad it would be to see them bolt 2 years later.
We need this for more than we think..
For what it's worth, the Cowboys are also undefeated on turf this year
Though it was only one game :-p
I’m so excited for this Sunday, gonna be a blast
"Thanks Ed, good hairpiece" - Tony Romo
how is that possible
when they were 6-2 at home?
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by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 11, 2010 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
Giants play on turf, no?
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by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 11, 2010 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
Cowboys Stadium has turf
The Cowboys lost at home to the Giants and Chargers.
by medicineball on Jan 11, 2010 10:56 PM CST up reply actions
My mistake, I had been under the impression it was grass
Shows what I know
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by robolundgren on Jan 11, 2010 11:56 PM CST up reply actions
Love It!
A LOT of Cowboy fans are popping up up LA, the city of front runners (I love the city, not so much the people in it). Excited for this game.
Skol Vikings!!
What is the field at The Super Bowl Site?
is it Field Turf?, or natural grass? I personally think that it should be a rule that all fields that host a NFL, or NCAA game, the ground should be Field Turf. it is the safest ground made. it has built in flexibility. yields when needed.. what do you all think. will Goodell make it happen? part of the new collective bargaining agreement?
by the way,,,
Vikings 34, Cowboys 19
Yes
technically, it’s called “Prescription Athletic Turf (Natural Grass)”
http://www.dolphinstadium.com/content/fastfacts.aspx
Forget about winning and losing; forget about pride and pain. Let your opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let him smash into your flesh and you fracture his bones; let him fracture your bones and you take his life. Do not be concerned with escaping safely - lay your life before him. - Bruce Lee
Can someone please explain to me
the advantage turf brings over a natural surface? I dont really understand the difference (we dont have dome stadiums in Australis).
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Turf is supposed to be faster...
it’s certainly more predictable than a grass surface.
Turf enhances directional changes at speed, but it’s probably harder on the body.
There is a natural grass/turf blend that is catching on… which is supposed to bring the benefits of both.
Either way, it’s safe to say the benefit comes from familiarity with the surface.
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by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 11, 2010 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
turf is also an outdoor surface, not just relegated to domed stadiums.
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by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 11, 2010 9:50 PM CST up reply actions
It can also cause more injuries which is why some teams don't like it.
It grips a bit to tight at times and can cause high ankel sprains or worse. Also the rug burn it gives sucks the long one.
Tori Hunter when asked about the Domes old said...
that after a diving catch in center field, he smelled burnt plastic, looked down and realized one of his buttons had melted.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
Torii Hunter was probably running so fast
It burnt up from the friction with air molecules before he even hit the turf.
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by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jan 12, 2010 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
If we beat the Cowboys and
Cardinals beat Saints, does that mean the cards have to come to our house to play?
Couldn't have said it better
The media makes me sick. Not just because of the hardon of the cowboys, but not a single sportswriter in America picked the defending NFC Champion Cardinals at HOME to win. The sickness comes from knowing these writers make more money than I do.
If you were an alien to the NFL, you’d think the coyboys already won the superbowl. Well guess what, there’s a team in this town that’s got a chip on it’s shoulder, and just loves bringin it to overrated teams on gameday (see packers). Dallas has had a few good games lately, where they just happened to beat the Saints during one of them. Hats off to them for that, but the Vikings are no push over. We’ve got talent in all areas of the game, and an x-facter who is 40 years old and proving every one of his old statistics and tendencies WRONG….except for one: winning football games
I say good luck to Dallas, they’re going to need it
How many of you think that the media is purposefully building the Cowboys up like this so as to make a great collapse story? I mean… what better team than one with an enormous fan base and one that has had chronic playoff struggles. I mean.. I have to think some of these mediamen and analysts are smarter than to write the Vikings off in a blow out.. especially given how evenly they match up with the Cowboys and how well they play at home.
dallas
is a very good team, if we bring our Carolina game we will lose, looking back at how each teams played probably will not matter. Except that the loser will have to hear about the how it was the same. Fact is the team that makes the fewest mistakes and executes is probably going to with this game. Playing at home should give us that edge to execute and win.
Skol Vikings
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by montana vikes fan on Jan 12, 2010 1:59 AM CST reply actions
im a MT cowboys fan
where from in MT? im not big on the media cuz the way the take every subplot and blow it up like every streak and every craze. i dont know what the turf craze is and im pretty sure its more the 12th man deal than everything. Cowboys are playing well no matter what teams they played, i believe its matchups and playing the game than how they played against common opponents
north of billings
In the bull mts about an hour from billings
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by montana vikes fan on Jan 12, 2010 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
oh not too familiar with that. been to shepard and
drank at the rusty bucket but im actually from helena and went to school in bozeman
I prefer the red roster
I used to live in shepard for a while. I travel all over the state for a while so I know Helena and Bozeman well (the beermuda triangle). Good luck even though I really hope we win!
it is better to be thought of as dumb then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
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by montana vikes fan on Jan 14, 2010 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
……whether it’s making a trip to the Big Easy to take on the Saints, or playing at Thunderdome against a Cardinals team that the Vikings will be looking for revenge on.
Why, if Arizona Cardinals (10-4) happen to beat the New Orleans Saints (13-3) this coming Saturday in New Orleans, and the the Minnesota Vikings (12-4) beat the Dallas Cowboys (11-5), would the Championship game be played int Phoenix? Minnesota Vikings are seeded at #2, while the Arizona Cardinals are seeded #4 in the NFC Playoffs.
Minnesota would host the Championship Game, not Arizona! Minnesota is (9-3) in the NFC while Arizona is (8-4) in the NFC. Both teams wong their Divisions. Minnesota was (5-1) in the NFC North, while Arizona was (4-2) in the NFC West.
This does not make sense. and please do not say, it is because the Arizona Cardinals were the NFC Champions last year……that is just wrong!
Parnelli
Everyone we meet in life give us happiness, some by their arrival, others by their departure!
Who is saying this?
If we manage to get past Dallas and if Arizona beats New Orleans, then yes, the NFC Championship would be in MN. I don’t see where the confusion is coming from on this.
Three Points
1.) Don’t let Joe Namath’s ancient bravado fool anyone. No guarantees exist in the outcomes of football games. As the well worn words of Alexander Pope and Robert Burns have made note, to err is human, and the best laid schemes o’ mice and men… well, it surely seems that Murphy’s Law is indeed alive and kicking. All happenstance aside, though, whoever wins this contest will have accomplished something.
2.) The Vikings play well on their home turf by design, not by mere coincidence. The Viking’s Triangle of Authority (or whatever awful name their critics would like to give them) have signed up a fine group of players who are well-suited to play on the home field, and those players have melded into highly competitive units for this environment.
3.) The Metrodome twelfth man is a factor which is clearly not neutral in this coming contest. A supermajority of the 64,000 in attendance will be screaming like they’ve been waiting all their lives to see the Purple go all the way, because in fact they have, and because they know they personally can play a real part in making their dreams come true.
NFC Championship Game.
This coming weekend
If the Saints beat the Cardinals, and the Vikings beat the Cowboys, the Viking will play the Saints at New Orleans for the NFC Championship Game.
If the Cardinals beat the Saints, and the Vikings beat the Cowboys, the Cardinals will play the Vikings at Minneapolis for the NFC Championship Game.
If the Cardinals bet the Saints, and the Cowboy bet the Vikings, the Cardinals will play the Cowboys at Dallas for the NFC Championship Game.
Everyone we meet in life give us happiness, some by their arrival, others by their departure!
CORRECTION ON "NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME.
This coming weekend
If the Saints beat the Cardinals, and the Vikings beat the Cowboys, the Viking will play the Saints at New Orleans for the NFC Championship Game.
If the Sanis beat the Cardinals, and the Cowboys beat the Vikings, the Cowboys will plat the Saints at New Orleans for the Championship Game.
If the Cardinals beat the Saints, and the Vikings beat the Cowboys, the Cardinals will play the Vikings at Minneapolis for the NFC Championship Game.
If the Cardinals bet the Saints, and the Cowboy bet the Vikings, the Cardinals will play the Cowboys at Dallas for the NFC Championship Game.
Sorry about that Chief, would you beleive that I missed it by that much?
Everyone we meet in life give us happiness, some by their arrival, others by their departure!
Basically
If the Saints win, they play at home. If they lose the winner of Dallas/ Minny host Arizona.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 12, 2010 3:25 AM CST up reply actions
yes
and home field makes a lot of deference in this out come dont you think?
i do bleed purple, just can not get enough even with a sb win go vikes
by new york viking on Jan 12, 2010 6:10 AM CST reply actions
Good Blog
Hey Dallas and Minny fans! Sooo great to read a football blog and not just hear your team sucks…no, your team sucks. As a Minny fan, of course I’m pulling for my team, but I have the utmost respect for how balanced, explosive, and well Dallas is playing. They are scary good as are the Vikings. I don’t take much stock in stats, I think for the most part they are useless. The only stat I take comfort in is how well the Vikings have played at home…at least there’s a good chance the real Vikes will show up to play, and they will need too, for sure. My fear is that the Vikes O line doesn’t open lanes for AP or give Favre time to throw. Favre is a sitting duck in the face of a good rush. for me that’s the key to the game. When AP can run a bit and Favre has time to throw, we win, period. I’m also hoping that the Vikes will have fresher legs come the 4th quarter due to the week off. We will see. Kudos to all the Dallas and Minny fans who are above all FOOTBALL fans for their great and respectful posts. Enjoy the game whoever you are rooting for, and remember… only one team and it’s fans end the season happy, and the deeper into the season you go, short of winning the superbowl, the greater the disappointment once it’s over. That’s why you have to love football, and not just your team. Sunday, IT"S ON!!!!!
I think the game also has more suspense because
these teams haven’t met. No one really knows what to expect when they are on the field together. Here’s to a great game.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
by dunkman on Jan 12, 2010 7:23 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Look at common opponents
You guys have destroyed two teams that beat us 3 times.
Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK
Okay, Okay,
After reading all of this, Viking fans you’re overusing the fact that we are 10-0 at home! Don’t forget the Pats were to, just a thought, so use other examples than that one, it’s overused as it is!
Why Do People Question The Vikings' Status?
by UnBannedVikingholic on Jan 12, 2010 7:24 AM CST reply actions
I mean 10-0 on turf, my mistake
Well Now i see the difference!
And the pats were 8-0 at home!
Why Do People Question The Vikings' Status?
by UnBannedVikingholic on Jan 12, 2010 7:27 AM CST up reply actions
Note to Sid Rice
if you get the chance to catch a game winning TD just push off, the ref owe us one vs. the cowboys..
You want another reason?
We want to talk about playing hot recently, in our past 7 quarters we’ve put up 72 points. Our defense has the best unit to stop your running game (in my opinion the key to getting the cowboys off the field) and key players like pat, bryant, Loadholt, winfield, peterson all got a week to rest some much needed injuries. now…what scares me
(1)Childress
(2)a bad start
(3)special teams
(4)special teams
yes, this game will be close…and those special teams are being over-looked in this match-up. Percy has been great as a return man, but its our kick coverage that has lost us most of our games. With 2 solid defenses, this game will really come down to field position, and i’m praying for no let downs on our kick coverage.
I don’t hate the cowboys, i’ve actually had to root them on recently, so I hope neither team lets us down and give us a great game to watch, not like that ugly game people thought was great in Arizona. Did anyone else feel sick to watch those 2 defenses?..i mean come on?? you call 2 teams with no defense a great game?? bla!
SKOL
SKOL
I can't wait for Sunday
I just hope that both our lines show up to play. Mckinney/Loadholt holding up the pocket for Brett and opening running lanes for AP and most importantly that Williams, Williams, Allen and Edwards put Romo on his back. I’m also a bit worried by Dallas success with screens against the Eagles, our secondaries tackling was a little lackluster in December.
R the vikes much of a blitzing team or
are they like the cowboys and just let ur front 4 do most the work. those smoke screens work cuz the cowboys knew most of the eagles blitz packages so well. also i believe felix’s 73 yard run was on an eagles blitz and thats y it was ran outside and not in the A gaps. If the vikes CBs play up on the line and dont blitz as much they should b fine.
I'd say mostly let the front 4 do it
I kept watching those bubble screens work against the Iggles about as well as they do for anyone and not liking it. What the hell happened to Asante Samuel?
Not sure. not a fan.
takes chances and tackles worse than Jenkins. Samuels a big deal cuz he gets lots of picks from taking those chances. thought cowboys mite get him with some double moves like jackson was trying. Winfield is small but hes pretty smart from what I see. Hope he doesnt teach Austin something new sunday
Jenkins get a bad rap for that one play against the Giants his rookie year, but he is actually a very sure tackler and has even blown up a few guys this year.
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a s#!t about the rules?!?
thats true
but he wasnt very good earlier this year. hes improved a lot and i actually think Tnew is a better tackler than years past even. almost like he wants to hit people now instead of the Deion slide.
ESPN "EXPERTS"
I have officially stopped watching ESPN for the week. I can stand that all of the so called experts have all but guaranteed a Dallas victory. Sunday can’t get here early enough!! SKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!
Let them talk up the cowboys.
Just my opinion but it seems like the vikes play better/harder when they aren’t the favorite.
We are the vikings.......resistance is futile.
The Vikes are favored.
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a s#!t about the rules?!?
I keep hearing
the Cowboys are playing the best football right now and similar remarks. Vikes can’t run, the D-line is sputtering and similar. If by favored, you mean the Vikes have better uniforms, maybe.
Subjective, subjective, subjective. Speaking about subjective, it’s Vegas who has the Vikings listed as favorites. Pretty sure Vegas isn’t in the business of losing money. Pretty sure Vegas, unlike these “analysts” isn’t looking to build up another fad team like the Eagles and Packers just to tear them down for a few more stories.
Do I think Dallas is bad? No. They’re a good team. But I think it’s more than just a little suspicious that the media is so quick to write off an unbeaten home team that matches up so evenly with their opponent. Looks like déjà vu to me.
I was obviously referring to the media and specifically the so called experts and their constant yacking about how the boys are red-hot and damn near invicible right now. If that doesnt give the implication that they view them as the favorites I dont know what does.
I have no clue where you get that i’m referring to vegas betting lines which are about making money.
We are the vikings.......resistance is futile.
That Worries Me
As a Cowboys fan, all the TV experts wrote us off all year including Tony Dungy saying we “have no chance at making the playoffs.”
They are ALWAYS wrong. So if they’re picking us to win — oh boy, we’re in trouble. :-x
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 12, 2010 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
yes, but
The Cowboys have already beaten the Saints on their home turf, holding them to 17 points.
Playing on turf is an advantage for speedy teams (think back to the Rams of 10-12 years ago) because it accentuates their advantage. Minnesota has a speedy offense, but Dallas has a speedy defense, so that neutralizes the turf factor.
I don’t think the Cowboys are pitching any more shutouts the rest of the way, but I’d be surprised if Minnesota managed more points on their turf than New Orleans did.
prepare to be surprised.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 12, 2010 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
I agree somewhat. The only difference is the Vikings actually have a defense (ranked #6 overall, as opposed to the Saints’ lowly #26 ranked overall defense). The Vikings have a better defense than the Saints in all facets: sacks, secondary, rush defense, and scoring. If the Vikings score what the Saints scored, the Vikings will sail to an easy victory.
that's true
The Vikings defense is better than any defense my Cowboys have faced during their winning streak. We faced the Packers’ #2 ranked defense earlier in the year and only managed 7 points – but then, that was a different team. You can’t underestimate how much the Saints’ win changed the Cowboys, but this will be a new test for the new Cowboys, so who knows what will happen.
I think the Vikings are somewhat vulnerable to the deep ball, and they’re good at rush defense but not great. So the Cowboys have some hope, but it’s going to be a tough slog. This is going to be a close, low scoring game IMO. If I were a betting man, I’d take the Cowboys and the points, and then take the under.
Grasping for Straws
You can’t make an argument for why you’ll win based on matchups or tactics? It’s the turf?
Hrm, maybe the Vikings get a magical advantage on turf like Popeye eating spinich or maybe it’s something else… hrm, who are the opponents?
St.Louis
Detroit
Detroit
Seattle
Chicago
and a Week 17 Giants team that had completely given up
So 6 of those 10 wins were against complete patsies.
So let’s look at the 4 good teams.
Cinci – good soild win
Green Bay – close game
San Francisco – very close game
Baltimore – very close game
Killing 6 dogs of the league and winning 3 very close games doesn’t point to any kind of significant advantage.
If you think the Vikes are going to beat us you should be focusing more on the play of your defensive line, your mercenary QB, and your all-star runner. Not some hocus pokus effect of a platic playing surface.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 12, 2010 11:14 AM CST reply actions
You obviously didn’t watch those games. The Vikings controlled 90% of the game in both the Green Bay game and the Baltimore game… the SF game was closer. Look at the box scores.
Based on what I imagine your definition of a “good” team, it’s virtually impossible to play more than 30-40% of your games against them, so your argument is bogus. 67% of teams in the NFL are not playoff teams. The Vikes have to play Detroit, just like Dallas has to play Washington. That doesn’t disqualify them from having a home advantage. The fact is, the Vikings have beat every “good” team that has walked into the Dome, and SF and Baltimore were the only teams that came even remotely close to winning.
The point...
What is my definition of a bad team?
1-15
2-14
5-11
Those are bad teams.
Cinci, Green Bay, San Fran, and Baltimore were good teams.
Against San Fran it was a touchdown with 2 seconds left on the clock. Against Baltimore it came down to a 44-yard missed field goal by Hauschka. The Vikes beat but didn’t blow out Green Bay.
So, look, the Vikes got good wins. When you win by 2 points of 20 points a win is a win. But, look, there isn’t some magical voodoo that happens on plastic grass.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 12, 2010 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
Didn't the Packers paste you?
The games we played weren’t close. Maybe you’re confusing garbage time points as relevant.
And hey, SanFran beat the Cards twice. Baltimore just crushed the Pats.
I said...
I said Baltimore and San Fran were good teams, you understand that, right? That’s the whole premise of the argument. Of course your going to look better “on turf” than otherwise, because 6 of the 10 games were against some of the absolute worst teams in the league. So the stats are going to be inflated.
You can argue how good the Cowboys are, but they’re no Detroit Lions or St.Louis Rams. When you look at the “good” teams the Viks have played (again, Baltimore, San Fran, Cinci, and GB) the scores are very normal.
Therefore there’s no magical special grass effect – sorry. You will just have to win with skill, matchups, and tactics. There isn’t any magical pixie dust on plastic grass that is helping the Vikes play any better.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 12, 2010 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
I can’t believe we’re even having a debate as to whether the Metrodome is a home field advantage for the Vikings. That dump is universally regarded by opposing teams as one of the most inhospitable venues to play in, based on its noise. The configuration of the stadium seating alone maximizes the decibel level perceived on the field.
Cowboys have shown they can win on the road.. they beat New Orleans. But OBVIOUSLY the homefield advantage helps the Vikings. The team feeds off the electric energy inside the Dome. You’ll see…
I might also add that if you’re going to talk about how the Vikings are slumping and then turn around and say homefield means nothing, you should see that the Vikings have had two of their three largest margins of victory (against playoff teams, at that) during said slump. Why? Because they were playing at home.
The article doesn’t talk about homefield advantage. It talks about the magical pixie dust effect of playing on turf.
Of course there’s a homefield advantage, that’s why Vegas always gives the home team 3 points. Homefield advantage means something in the NFL.
But plastic turf doesn’t. Sorry, it doesn’t.
And no stadium accounts for the 18-point difference the article claims the turf has.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 12, 2010 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
10-0
on pixie dust turf, home or abroad…
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 12, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
I don’t think the left side is going to be the telling side. McKinnie is the Viks version of our Flo. Allen is good Ware is better but not by a mile or anything. I don’t know if the interior of the Viks line is ready to stop Ratliff’s physical presence while also being heads-up for the interior blitzes. Most teams this year have fallen to one or the other. Either they’re thinking too much about Ratliff and blitzers get through the A gaps or they’re thinking too much and letting Ratliff collapse the pocket. I think Spencer comming off the right edge is a mismatch.
On the flip side I think the stout physical presence of the Viks front-4 is going to be felt most in the run game. Dallas needs to run the ball to open up the passing game. Dallas must establish the run and make the opponent respect the run in order to get the passes that show up on SportsCenter. However, the Dallas O-line has been criticised for fading in past seasons and they have not met many defenses with that can match then physically the way the Viks can.
So, in answer to your question, I think the game will hinge on the matchup between the Vik’s D-line and the Cowboys O-line.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 12, 2010 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
Paste us?
How come people keep saying we got pasted by Green Bay? The score was 17-7. You call that pasted?
Considering the fact that you barely got
more than fifty rushing yards and the score was 17-0 until the final two and a half minutes of the game, when it was too late for a comeback…. Yea, I’d say you got pasted.
But there should be no shame in that, the Packers were a good team this year. You are still playing, they are not.
by Bjorno on Jan 12, 2010 7:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
lol
Some fanboy of the Cowboys of all teams is complaining about a guy who played 16 years with one team as “mercenary.” You can still see highlights of the GB games at NFL.com.
Did I miss something?
Is Favre still with the Packers?
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a s#!t about the rules?!?
You must be missing something
Mercenaries are for hire. Favre was thrown away and chose the Vikings. And if he was so mercenary, he would never have stuck with the Slackers. He could have easily gotten more money. Hell, he offered to take a cut in pay to help sign Randy Moss. They didn’t want to give up a 4th round pick which they ended up using on Allen Barbre.
Well Salty,
I guess we get to learn something new today from some of our new Cowboy friends. If a player changes teams by his own choice at some point during their career, they are called mercenaries.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
well,
he only did it so he could beat the packers (twice), all 32 teams (at least once), break more records (look them up yourself), and put together the best season of his career. All while guiding a team to the post-season and positively impacting several young player’s careers. But it was all about the money.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 12, 2010 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
I know AFV,
he’s a mercenary. That’s why he turned down the 25 million the Pack offered him to stay home, because it’s all about the money.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
Sort of the sidebar to that was that he doesn’t do advertising or at least as much while he is playing and his agent said he gave up some big number which I forget to play with the Jets. So he basically gave up money to go play with Mangini and throw to Cotchery and Coles.
He was traded to the Jets.
That’s about the only place they would send him.
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a s#!t about the rules?!?
he turned down a $25M PR job...
was told he was being traded to the TB Bucs and then got shipped to NY.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 12, 2010 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
Right
but he is 163 in QB years. He could have retired, taken 20 something from the Pack and made that much or more doing ads. I’ve worked on ads. They take a day. There is probably some prep time, some planning time and some travel time. Dude likes to go hunting, play football and mess around on the property.
And I just might add you’re forgetting New York Giants…. we beat them, too. I hope you qualify them as a good team seeing as they beat the Cowboys twice. And before you get on that “the Giants weren’t playing for anything” garbage, you can explain to me why the Cowboys didn’t run up more than a couple TDs against the Redskins.. they haven’t had anything to play for all year.
If you think the Week 17 version of the Giants were anything like the Week 2 version of the Giants you don’t watch the NFL.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 12, 2010 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
kai35 Blog Entry:
1/24/2010 – Sat and thought about how awesome the Giants win was as I watched the Cowboys play in the NFC championship game.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 12, 2010 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
I’m just going to come out and say that as impressive a defensive effort the Cowboys have put out these past few games, I’ve ALWAYS thought Philly was hardly a mediocre team. The Eagles didn’t win a single game all year against a team that finished above .500. They’re just a great example that if you beat up on all the bad teams you play, you’ll make the playoffs and you might even dupe people into thinking you’re a contender.
It sure helps your so-called momentum when you get to play two games in a row against the most then-overhyped team in football.
the eagles beat the Falcons who finished 9-7
they won 11 of their scheduled games.
you beat 3 teams with a winning record and I would argue you had an easier schedule, especially division schedule.
Health is the most important factor in this game. We are likely without Barber. You are missing Henderson and Winfield hasn’t been himself.
Bottom line, we don’t discount you for your weak schedule and I don’t think our playoff victory should be discounted either.
Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK
I was impressed
I still don’t get how that team got pushed around by the Slackers. Maybe the coaching staff didn’t have a good gameplan or something.
We beat Green Bay twice. That counts as two games.. they’re in our division, so we have to play them twice. So we beat four teams that finished over .500. And I don’t discount the playoff victory, a home game against a hyped team you just played. However, for the sake of statistically fair comparison, I have to look at regular season only.
When your offense
consists of “Hey Desuan Jackson, run as far as you can and I’ll just chuck it as hard as I can and lets see what happens”….you are either feast or famine. Famine was the word for Philly against decent teams. Lets see how that Cowboy’s D fares against Harvin, Berrian, Rice, Shiancoe, AD, and Chester. Oh yeah, I forgot, Favre is ok this year as well.
by Jepp The Viking on Jan 12, 2010 12:05 PM CST reply actions
I Would Take Brett Favre Over Tony Romo.....
Brett Favre is not only a Great QB, he is a mentor to the players, and a inspiration to the team. The Minnesota Viking Players voted Brett Farve MVP Offensive Player on the Vikings.
If Dallas wants to blitz Brett, they can alway put Klinesasser in the backfield, he was at one time a used as a half-back and a full-back on the Minnesota Vikings.
Vikings need to do Play Action, so the Cowboys Defense, never have a clue, if it is going to be a Run, or a Pass Play.
Keep the Cowboys Guessing.
No Indoor Arena in the NFL is as LOUD AS THE HUBERT H. HUMPHREY METRODOME. I remember the two World Series that the Minnesota Twins won,. The noise inside the Metrodome was exceeding 130 decibles, enough to cause a person permanent damage to a person’s hearing! I should know I have hearing problems from spending 27 years in the U.S. Army, hanging around Heavy Artillery , EOD Detonations, and Incoming Fire.
The Metrodome will rock this Sunday, and the Cowboys will be penalize for lots of False Starts and Off Sides, because they will not be able to hear anything……
Everyone we meet in life give us happiness, some by their arrival, others by their departure!
I ventured over to their blog
I think I’ll pass on joining. A lot of them think the game won’t even be close because they’re so much better. The Vikes team is “on the skids.” Romo is not only better, but much better. Our D-line is good but not great.
I'm only going by what I read
I’d go over there and bring back the quotes but its not really worth the effort.
Seriously, if you're going to judge BTB
then Judge it by the guys who actually run it and post. Don’t just base your opinion on what a few commenters might say. We have intelligent posters, as well as idiots, fatalists, people drinking the Kool Aid and every other personality type, just like any blog. If you see something you don’t agree with, then reply and call them on it. But don’t sit back and whine that the whole site is useless because you think a few comments are over the top. It’s cowardly.
by Boundforbeach on Jan 12, 2010 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
perch and twirl
I didn’t whine and its not a few posters. Its one big kool-aid swillfest. I went over there tonight again. It just doesn’t do much good when most of the time all you could do is point out that people don’t have their facts correct. It really seems as if most of them haven’t seen more than a game the Vikes have played this year. They sound like they’re watching an endless loop of Cowboys highlights.
Deciding not to wade into that is called intelligence.
Well Salty is a bit harsh
But there are a couple of posts in tehre that are pretty blatantly brutal. Personally i don’t care. What I did care about is when the kool aid drinkers came here and started in on Romo is better than Favre, our D rocks your etc.. When you argued with them with stats they would reply that stats don’t mean anything and that if you just take these couple of games and throw away the rest the cowboys really are teh greatest team to ever play the game.
That kind of homerism can’t be argued with or even discussed, it can only be pitied.
Fact is either team could win this game and while we may chit chat about the process in the end the teams are very evenly matched.
Beerman in Dallas and the ? about Miami grass
Beerman- You have confirmed many of my posts about Eagles fans. Everywhere I go I have found them to be the loudest and most obnoxious. This from visiting many ares and going to many establishments to watch my Vikings .
Grass- I had looked this up and posted it last week I think. (Jeez my body clock is soff I am going to bed at 3 and getting up at noon) So I looked it up and it is a grass that was designed to withstand conditions in So. Florida. It is set over a specially designed drainage and waterig system. I commented I have never seen a better looking field considering they play basebal, college and Dolphins games on it. It was a hybred grass developed ou tof Purdue Univ. I have not heard the NFL asking them to resod like they did in Tampa. It is a field that should be OK for the Vikes should we go. It is not mushy in wet weather because of the drainage. So the grass never seems to tear off in chunks like in Carolina (what a mess there).
There should be no disadvantage for the Vikings as it is a short cut and firm enough base.
Here’s a one for our VIKES come this
Sunday gainst the overrated cowgirls.:
f you think you are beaten, you are,
If you think you dare not, you don’t.
If you like to win, but you think you can’t,
It is almost certain you won’t.
If you think you’ll lose, you’ve lost,
For out in the NFL world we find,
Success begins with a team’s will.
It’s all in the state of mind.
For many a game is lost
before even a step is run
And many a coward fails
Before his work is begun.
If you think you are outclassed, you are,
You’ve got to think high to rise,
You’ve got to be sure of yourself before
You can ever win a prize.
Think big and your deeds will grow,
Think small and you’ll fall behind.
You play like a champion you win
You play like a “cowgirls” you surely loose
Think that you can, and you WILL;
It’s all in the state of mind.
NFL battles don’t always go
To the stronger or faster team .
But soon or later the team whose wins,
Is the team whose thinks…
“They can”.
Ha Ha...Was your inspiration...
Thomas the Tank Engine or Dr. Seuss?
by Boundforbeach on Jan 12, 2010 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
Coaching
This will be a good test for Chilly. If two teams play well, don’t turn it over, and execute well, coaching will loom large in the contest. I’m still not sold at all on Chilly being anything above mediocre as a coach able to make effective adjustments during a game. But he does/did talk to Andy Reid on a weekly basis. So perhaps Reid will be willing to share some wisdom with his former assistant, especially after facing Dallas consecutively the past two games.
Looking forward to a good game. Go Vikes.
We all know that art is not the truth, art is a lie that makes us realize the truth.--Picasso
to be fair, wade phillips isn't exactly a rhodes scholar
and i’m sure most cowboy fans won’t argue that point. if they do, i want what they’re smoking!
I piss people off on a fairly regular basis. I cherish my right to speak my mind, whether I sound like an uneducated savage or not. I've never been accused of keeping what I think a secret, nor will I ever. Don't like it? I don't care.
by IABerserker1 on Jan 12, 2010 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
Oh no doubt.... but.....
this might be the first game in 30 years of coaching that Wade has a slight advantage. :)
by Road Warrior on Jan 12, 2010 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
Wade went to University of Houston and Chilly went to Eastern Illinois U according to Wiki
So, academically it’s probably a wash
"Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far." Theodore Roosevelt
Fair enough.... lol
Let’s call it a draw.
by Road Warrior on Jan 12, 2010 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
Less worried about him
than Jason Garret and Childress. Good point, though.
We all know that art is not the truth, art is a lie that makes us realize the truth.--Picasso
really?
we want Reid’s angle on how to beat the Cowboys? hmmm…
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 12, 2010 4:47 PM CST up reply actions
Different personnel
entirely. Reid would still have better ideas about how to beat them than Childress owing to familiarity first of all. That would be most helpful, I believe.
We all know that art is not the truth, art is a lie that makes us realize the truth.--Picasso
Was just watching NFL Live on ESPN
Their analysis of the game:
TEH COWBOYS IZ UNDEFEATABLE!
The Colorado Rockies aren't a team, they're an armada.
What was an interesting thread has just gone bad
That dude can go to the penalty box for unsportsmanlike conduct
"Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far." Theodore Roosevelt
Sick and Tired of the cowboys
and thier arrogance. And all of the media just falling in love with the team like its the 2007 Patriots all over again. I mean first it Packers then it was the Eagles Now the damn Cowboys, it makes me puke. Look the the vikings are not facing the nfl equivlent of the russians, and dont get me wrong the cowboys are a really good football team but guess what so are the Vikes. Anyone who thinks this will be a cake walk for either team will be sadly mistaken. It shall be a great game very and it will be exciting. I cant wait go
Vikes
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"
This Cowboy fan doesn't think the Vikes will be easy, you got a bye for a reason--you're damn good
And our team isn’t arrogant, just confident. Be honest, the media thought the Cowboys were dead men walking one month ago and Wade was out.
We played our way into the NFC East champion and won a playoff game with the healthiest team in the league. If there is any sort of air to us fans, it might be because our team is FINALLY playing like we thought they could. It’s been 13 years so you can imagine how pumped we are to go play a great team and have a chance to win.
Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK
that just shows that the media is fickle
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"
after this game
the media will be slobbering over whoever wins.
Write it down.
Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK
most likely
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"
the media loves to jump on the hottest team and you are right
which ever team wins the media will line up to kiss ass and shower them with praise
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"
Don't think for a second... should the Vikings win....
it will be a Favre frenzy. You can take that to the bank. They are leeches… except, leeches actually do good things, so I shouldn’t insult those poor little critters.
by Road Warrior on Jan 12, 2010 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
Kind of depends on how the game goes
I keep thinking Peterson is going to go off, but its getting late.
Don't even get me started.......
I think I posted somewhere on here that we threw BSPN for a loop. In 4 weeks we took away all of their famous lines (they’ve used for 13 years of treating us like doormats).
And since they can’t come up with an original thought in their head, they say ‘Cowboys must be good’…. Ugh.
by Road Warrior on Jan 12, 2010 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
All that matters
is that the players and coaches don’t think it will be easy – considering how good these 2 teams are, i doubt that will be a problem.
Also, I don’t the THE COWBOYS are acting arrogant – you’re confusing the team with the media/fans. Have a peek at some of the things the players/coaches have said the past 2 days:
Regarding AP:
“You need to commit to the running game with that guy,” Wade Phillips said. “He’s such a tremendous talent. He’s done everything already and still doing more.”
“You have to gang tackle and have to have great pursuit,” Phillips said. “Speed on defense is really a key because if you’re a little bit slow and he gets through there, he’s gone.”
Regarding Favre:
“He’s a heck of a football player,” linebacker Keith Brooking said. “We’re not looking at him as being 40 years old and not being able to move in the pocket. That dude can still sling it. He can spin that ball. He’s still making the throws he made back in the day. No doubt about that.”
“We have to get pressure on him,” outside linebacker DeMarcus Ware said. “We can’t let him sit back there because he’ll pick us apart. He’s a really smart quarterback. Everyone says he can’t run, but he can still move back there.”
Misc:
“Favre’s a great quarterback,” nose tackle Jay Ratliff said. “He can definitely beat you with his arm, but they also have weapons with Adrian Peterson. Their offensive line is definitely a big, physical line, so we need to be ready to step up and face up to that challenge.”
“I think we’re playing as good as anybody right now,” Phillips said. “I mean, I thought we were [in] the last three games there. We know Minnesota is undefeated at home and they have a lot of weapons, and they’re a good football team.”
I don’t hear any arrogance in those statements. The CLOSET you could argue would be “I think we’re playing as good as anybody right now,” Phillips said, but I would consider that confidence, or better yet, fact.
Forget about winning and losing; forget about pride and pain. Let your opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let him smash into your flesh and you fracture his bones; let him fracture your bones and you take his life. Do not be concerned with escaping safely - lay your life before him. - Bruce Lee
I am not going to argue a closet, but...
Pretty sure the fans posting on this blog are referring to thee Cowboy fans posting here as well as the sports media in general.
LOL
Was supposed to be “CLOSEST”, whoops
Forget about winning and losing; forget about pride and pain. Let your opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let him smash into your flesh and you fracture his bones; let him fracture your bones and you take his life. Do not be concerned with escaping safely - lay your life before him. - Bruce Lee
SVEN & OLE
Sven and Ole have a snowmobiling accident, drunker than skunks, both
die, and go to Hell.
The Devil observes that they are really enjoying themselves.
He says to them ’Doesn’t the heat and smoke bother you?’
Ole replies, ‘Vell, ya know, ve’re from nordern Minnesooota, da land of
snow an ice, an ve’re yust happy fer a chance ta varm up a little bit, ya
know.’
;
The devil decides that these two aren’t miserable enough and turns up
the heat even more. When he returns to the room of the two from
Minnesota, the devil finds them in light jackets and hats, grilling
Walleye and drinking beer. The devil is astonished and exclaims,
‘Everyone down here is in misery, and you two seem to be enjoying
yourselves?’
Sven replies, ‘Vell, ya know, ve don’t git too much varm veather up
dere at da Falls, so ve’ve yust got ta haff a fish fry vhen da veather’s
dis nice.’
The devil is absolutely furious. He can hardly see straight. Finally he
comes up with the answer. The two guys love the heat because they have
been cold all their lives. The devil decides to turn all the heat off.
The next morning, the temperature is 60 below zero, icicles are hanging
everywhere, and people are shivering so bad that they are unable to wail,
moan or gnash their teeth. The devil smiles and heads for the room with
Ole and Sven. He gets there and finds them back in their parkas, bomber
hats, and mittens. They are jumping up and down, cheering,
yelling and screaming like mad men.
The devil is dumbfounded, ‘I don’t understand, when I turn up the
heat you’re happy. Now its freezing cold and you’re still happy. What is
wrong with you two?’
They both look at the devil in surprise and say, ‘Vell, don’t ya
know, if hell iss froze over, dat must mean da Vikings von da Super
Bowl.’
Everyone we meet in life give us happiness, some by their arrival, others by their departure!
Hell cooled...
44 degrees last week.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 12, 2010 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
Speaking of insufferables....
From the start of the year, I was probably one of the most insufferable Vikings fans imaginable. From my “Fuck Chicago” rant to about ten dozen others messages, not so much on this board but across the interwebz, I have talked mad smack all season long. Straight talk…it’s been awhile since I’ve able to put the verbal smack down on my NFC brethren, and I took the streak and ran with it.
But I’m not retarded. I’m not going to call out the Dallas Cowboys as a team, the team actually plays pretty good and it should be full of intriguing matchups and a classic NFL playoff game with nothing guaranteed until the clock hits zeros.
The fans though…. I’ll call out the loudmouth Cowboys FANS all day long. While there have a choice few scattered among our blog with the ability to talk ’ball in a rational sense, if you look over at their SBNation, or any story on Y! covering the game, or even the Pioneer Press message boards…there has been an influx of loud, overbearing, overconfident rednecks just straight talking shit about this game and how we should bow our horned-heads in acceptance of the greatness that is “Americas Team.”
Well I’ll tell you what. The Cowboys aren’t Americas Team. They aren’t even Texas’ Team, as Houston fans will readily admit. So the ESPN experts predict a ‘Boys win? Big deal. Those loudmouths will all be kissing Favre’s feet the minute the clock ticks down and the Favre Love Fest continues.
It’s a game. It will be a great one. I hope we win. We might lose. Either way, I’ll stand by my team. I think we match up better than people expect. The Dome is a tough play to play, in any sport.
So Bring it, Dallas.
Afterwards, I hope each and every one of you fans with the 8 mile mouth come back and taste the crow you deserve. But I know that will never happen.
Skol Vikes. Time to step it up.
Nice post Toke
I agree with your assessment of the Cowboy fans. Going into week 15 the Boyz were 8-5 after coming off two losses. They narrowly avoided being 7-6 by eeking out a win against the Chiefs in OT. The Cowboys were a very average team at that point and literally in danger of not making the playoffs. Dallas fans were calling for Phillips head on a platter, and were ready to run Romo out of town on a rail. Then the Cowboys got hot, and their fans became insufferable. The media has fueled it without question. I expect the Vikings to win Sunday, but they might lose. Either way I will continue to support them.
uff da!!!!
get some brother!! preach it from the rooftop!!!
I piss people off on a fairly regular basis. I cherish my right to speak my mind, whether I sound like an uneducated savage or not. I've never been accused of keeping what I think a secret, nor will I ever. Don't like it? I don't care.
by IABerserker1 on Jan 12, 2010 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
If you havent seen it
Deadspin sports website has a wonderful clip of a packer fan…..lets say hes not taking the loss to AZ well
http://deadspin.com/5445785/this-little-packer-fan-cried-all-the-way-home
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have"
Thomas Jefferson
by RileysCannibalJct on Jan 12, 2010 6:23 PM CST reply actions
radio has been going on and on and on and on and on
about how they got jobbed on the facemask call. At the same time they keep talking about how fantastic Rodgers is. It remind me of Cards baseball fans – they worry more about whethere Pujols wins awards than the team winning.
I like how the dude next to him in the train bailed
There was no way he was keeping his seat close to that guy.
I hope Vikant et al see that
Assuming it’s not faked, but that’s how some of their comments come off to me.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jan 12, 2010 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
Excuse me?
Please. its not even worth making fun of you because you just don’t get it
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"
No.
I do not get crybabies, you’re right.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jan 14, 2010 8:35 AM CST up reply actions
CryBaby? I dont think so
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"
Hey both of you! common enemy, remember?
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
He started it
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"
I don't care who started it,
We have bigger cows to grill.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
Mmm...
Grilled cows…
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jan 14, 2010 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
OK
time to cry
by Vikant on Dec 6, 2009 8:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
now can i cry
by Vikant on Dec 6, 2009 10:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Glad to hear it.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jan 14, 2010 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
Come on now.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
hmm jokes
but it seems you took them seriously I dont know why ?
because you an ASS yes?
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"
OK the first was a joke
the second was after the EJ henderson injury a very emotional situation
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"
Oh! They're "Jokes" now!
Well here it is. Show us where the humor is, I see cryhavoc making fun of you below, but “time to cry” is all by itself; Just your comment on the game.
Here’s the set up to your joke, the comment you made previous to that one. 1st QTR
WTF
well we lost this game
by Vikant on Dec 6, 2009 8:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Game over. I win!
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jan 15, 2010 1:49 AM CST up reply actions
Did we not lose the game?
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"
It's putting your "time to cry" quote in context
Not much of a set up for a “Joke.” And you claim we’ve “Lost” in the 1st half every time we’re behind anyway.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jan 15, 2010 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
That is over a month ago
and you dont WIN you can never WIN
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"
I've already won! :D
You claimed you’re not a crybaby—>I showed a couple of many quotes in which you said you were going to cry.
You claimed that you were just “Joking”—>I put your quotes in context to prove you weren’t joking at all.
Have a nice day!
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jan 15, 2010 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
Hmmmmmm
Still Nothing….
please take a 57 magnum put it to your head a pull the trigger OK
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"
Loser
No such thing as a “57 Magnum” LOL
It was nice handing your @ss to you in this thread, but it’s over.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jan 16, 2010 1:12 AM CST up reply actions
Handing my ass to me? Please like i care what you think
oh I meant 357
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"
I admit it...
I got chills. but hide that chit. we don’t want the kids to read it.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 12, 2010 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
wow just wow
i love it
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"
dang...
the kid read it.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 13, 2010 9:59 PM CST up reply actions
I like it!
They gotta win just one SB in my lifetime…that’s all I ask.
"Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far." Theodore Roosevelt
What does the media know?
Well said Gonzo!
This is exactly the situation I think the Vikings need to be in, underdog, psychologically.
As it’s only going to fire up the players and bring the game to another level.
Vikings 31, Cowboys 24
agreed.
I don’t think Wade will be fired.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 12, 2010 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
I'm enjoying the banter, guys.
I really think everyone here is underestimating the Dallas defense, though. They get pressure with their front four(or five). They blitz less than any team in the league. That enables them to put six or seven guys in coverage.
I think Rice is the biggest match-up problem. They’ve shown they can handle speed guys, but taller receivers have given them trouble. Vincent Jackson comes to mind.
Phillips may come off as goofy, but he calls one hell of a defense. You may dismiss the Dallas defense, but I guarantee that your coaches won’t.
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a s#!t about the rules?!?
Oh I don't dismiss your D at all
I think that’s probably one of our best aspects as a team. Ware and Spencer are monsters and are everything OLB in a 3-4 should be. Your nose tackle is a man child. Your D actually plays very much like ours. Strong line weak back. Not saying your secondary is terrible but like ours it’s the weak link in your defense. Just like us your OLine is a bunch of run blocking hogs, that have had problems with speed rushers in the past, your three headed running back is good with Jones there to hit the occasional home run. Romo is a mobile QB and Mile Austin is a certifiable TD threat on every play, and you have whitten to help create new downs.
This sounds exactly like the Vikes. We have a strong D line, weak secondary, Great QB, genuine threats at receiver for TD’s, good RB’s and a strong TE. Although we’ll end up going to the slot on most 3rd and long.. (Harvin is damn good)
The question is who can out execute the other, AND how the coaching will go. I think Garret is a smart guy, Phillips is as well. Frasier has done an admirable job for us however he seems to react slowly in games. While Childress is like a child playing with colored string.
HOnestly I hope Childress gets hit by a bus and Bevell and Favre call the game :D
Cowboys = Overrated
They beat a one dimensional Eagles team back to back and beat a no dimensional Redskins team. The Cowboys are built to play with a lead. Play a close game or a game where they have to come from behind and we will see how that “defense” of theirs stacks up.
I hope the Cowboys buy into the hype because I know the Vikings won’t.
aussie_cowboy
Why do I get a feeling that aussie_cowboy lives in Daily Norseman? Or is it just me and my imagination that this Cowboy’s fan is lurking and stalking Minnesota Vikings fans?
So after the Vikings win (at least I think they will) maybe aussie_cowboy could change his id and join in our quest for Super Bowl. And the good news is we always welcome change-of-heart new fans….;))
Well It is a good blog
and it isn’t as if I have been saying anything derogatory about the Vikings or their fans.
Believe
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 14, 2010 12:18 AM CST up reply actions
I feel you I'm spending some serious time on BTB as well
Need to get these play offs done or I’m gonna get canned :D
Well, I suppose that we could let him, but...
first he would have to pledge his loyalty and he would be on probation.
aussie_cowboy, raise your right hand and repeat after me, I state your name…
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
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