There Is No Such Thing as "Running Up the Score" in the NFL
by Christopher Gates on Jan 18, 2010 6:01 AM CST
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PrintTo hear the national media talk in the week leading up to Sunday's Vikings/Cowboys divisional playoff game, you would have thought that the Vikings didn't even need to bother showing up. After all, the Cowboys had won their last four games leading into the contest, a streak that included two wins over the one-dimensional Philadelphia Eagles, a shutout win over the horrible Washington Redskins, and a victory over the New Orleans Saints in New Orleans. The win over the Saints was, apparently, especially impressive, as only one other team managed to defeat the Saints at home all season (that being the 3-13 Tampa Bay Buccaneers). Granted, the game against the Saints occurred on 19 December, nearly a month ago, but by God. . .it still counted for something, right?
But all of the questions this week were about how Minnesota would handle this or that or the other thing. How would the Vikings handle DeMarcus Ware and Anthony Spencer? How would the Vikings slow down Jason Witten? What could the Vikings do to stop Tony Romo? Would the Vikings lose a close game, or would it be a Dallas blowout?
And, all the while, the Vikings just sort of sat back and listened to it all. Sure, some folks tried to make it sound like Brett Favre and Jared Allen had made guarantees simply by having the gall to think that their team had a shot to not only keep it close, but to win the game outright. Boy, some nerve those guys have, huh?
After all, the Cowboys were coming off of their first playoff victory since the mid-point of the Clinton Administration. Wade Phillips was a coaching genius, Romo was some other-worldly combination of Roger Staubach and Troy Aikman, and the Cowboy defense was more impenetrable than Alcatraz and Superman's Fortress of Solitude. Combined, even!
So, naturally, when the completely and utterly superior Cowboys found themselves on the wrong end of a 34-3 curb stomping by a Vikings team that was, apparently, just supposed to be happy to be there, some folks got bent out of shape about it.
The main culprit in this matter is Cowboys linebacker Keith Brooking. When the Vikings went for it on a fourth and three play that resulted in an 11-yard touchdown pass to Visanthe Shiancoe. . .Brett Favre's fourth touchdown pass of the day. . .Brooking thought it would be a lovely idea to go over to the Minnesota sideline and run his yap in the general direction of the coaching staff. And he continued to flap his gums after the game was over.
Cowboys coach Wade Phillips said the Vikings ran up the score, and Brooking agreed.
"I thought it was classless," Brooking said. "I thought it was B.S. Granted, we get paid to stop them, but we had zero timeouts left. I didn't think there was any call for that."
Well, gee, Keith. . .let's review why you didn't have any time outs, shall we?
After Brett Favre connected with Sidney Rice for his third touchdown catch of the day, the Vikings led by a score of 27-3. The Cowboys turned the ball over on downs, and the Vikings took over from the Dallas 33 with 6:24 left in the game. On first down, Minnesota handed the ball to Adrian Peterson for no gain.
And the Cowboys called a time out.
On second down, the Vikings handed the ball to Peterson again, this time for three yards.
And the Cowboys used their second time out.
On third down, Peterson again got the call, again for no gain.
And the Cowboys used their third time out.
The Vikings went for it on fourth down, failed to convert, and gave the ball back to the Cowboys after moving the ball three yards and burning only twelve seconds of game time off the clock.
Here's the problem I have with the combination of this sequence and Brooking's subsequent post-game whinefest. If I'm down 27-3 in a game of Madden '10. . .which never happens, because I rule at Madden, but I digress. . .and there's six minutes left in the game, I don't start burning time outs. Why? Because I'm beaten. It's over. It's done with. If I've only scored three points in the first 54 minutes of action, I'm not going to delude myself into thinking that I'm somehow going to rack up 24 in the next six. Especially if Shaun Suisham is my kicker.
Yet the Cowboys, apparently, had exactly that delusion. Why else would they have been burning time outs in that situation? Of course, the Cowboys turned it over on downs again, and Minnesota put the final touchdown on the board on the subsequent possession.
As a Viking fan, I've seen my team wind up on the wrong end of some pretty nasty thumpings. Two of the more recent examples that come to mind are the 41-0 loss to the Giants the last time the Vikings made an NFC Championship Game and the 34-0 debacle at Lambeau Field a couple of years back. In both of those cases, I don't recall any members of the Vikings whining after the fact that our opponents ran up the score on us. I remember them acknowledging that they got their butts kicked. . .because, really, how can you not acknowledge that. . .but there was no whining about how the score was run up or anything else. And do you know why that is?
Because there is no such thing as "running up the score" in the National Football League. There never has been, and there never will be.
This isn't college football, where the big boys go out and schedule games against Whatsamatta U to run up big victories and improve their BCS position. Everybody out on that field is a professional, and every single one of them is paid to do their job. Brooking and his defensive teammates decided that because they weren't good enough to do their jobs, the Vikings' offense should stop doing their jobs, too. That's not how it works.
There's not one person on that Dallas defense that should bother coming in to collect their paycheck next week. Not Brooking. . .not DeMarcus Ware (who sacked Favre on the Vikings' third play of the game and spent the rest of the afternoon getting his butt kicked by Bryant McKinnie and Phil Loadholt). . .not Gerald Sensabaugh, who I still don't think is aware that Sidney Rice caught the pass that resulted in his first touchdown. Not a one. After spending a week reading their own press clippings, it appeared that the Dallas defense was already looking forward to another trip to New Orleans and couldn't be bothered to take the Vikings seriously.
If New Orleans goes out next week and beats the Vikings 56-0 in the NFC Championship Game, it won't have anything to do with the Saints "running up the score" on us. It's up to the Minnesota defense to not allow the Saints to put seven or eight touchdowns on the board. Conversely, if the Vikings go out and pound the Saints 56-0, it won't be because we "ran up the score" on New Orleans, either. It's up to Darren Sharper and Jonathan Vilma and company to keep the Vikings out of the end zone.
Keith Brooking, rather than putting the blame for the Cowboys' pathetic performance where it belongs. . .that being on the Dallas Cowboys. . .chose to try to paint the Vikings as a bunch of big, mean bullies instead. And that's a big, steaming load of garbage.
Oh, well. . .he's got an extra week to think about how dumb he sounded on this matter. He certainly doesn't have any plans for next week, that's for sure.
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Like I said in another thread
Next time a Cowboys fan comes and complains
Send them to the packers board to get some cheese to go with their whine
by mississippisaintsfan on Jan 18, 2010 6:22 AM CST reply actions
Packers fans
are literally still complaining about the officiating that stole a game from them. They’ve stopped having whole segments of call in shows dedicated to it, but it is a constant refrain.
+1
"You are freaking out. Man."
By the power of Allen's Mullet!
Cowgirls Fans Do Nothing But Whine
Boo freaking hoo go to the zoo Cowgirls tools.
Brad James
by the new Bradfather on Jan 19, 2010 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
I like this a lot.
Part of me thinks that some of Dallas’ frustration over that last score had more to do with their delusions of coming into this game and walking all over us…and when it didn’t happen they found a way to take it out on the play call rather than their own inability to do anything other than stop the run.
This was an amazingly satisfying victory, as anyone who sees my facebook status will attest.
When I first started up Twinkie Town I wrote something about sportsmanship and “running up the score”. I think I’ll re-run that later today.
Running Up the Score
Had we opted for a 2-point conversion after the touchdown (because we couldn’t go for three!) that would have been running up the score.
The fans in the stadium payed for 60 minutes of football. Just because the Cowboys wanted to stop after 50 minutes is no reason for the Vikings to quit.
Don’t you mean wanted to stop after 15?
by Iceland-Viking on Jan 19, 2010 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
Excellent Post
Even though this goes without saying unless you are a Cowboys fan, thanks for clearing it up for all those guys when they undoubtedly come over here to see what we’re saying. I expect the trolling to commence soon.
All but one game was a blowout
What I don’t understand is why the Cowboys would feel that there situation is different than any other team. Except for the San Diego game each was a blowout. No winning team gave any consideration to anything except winning. No other team complained.
If there was some other way to safely win the game and spare your opponent some pain and suffering I’m sure the Vikes would have done it. But if the Boys had scored a couple of lightning quick TDs I’m sure the Vikings owner would have had Chilly’s head for not continuing to push the score.
Winning is not everything but it sure feels like it sometimes
oh brother
you know if it happened to your team you would TOTALLY be pissing and moaning all about how disrespectful it was. Personally I don’t really care but it bothers me to hear all the Viking fans suddenly not caring.
Its the first time EVER that a team up by more than 20 with 2 min or less on the clock THREW a TD. Its not like you guys ran the ball up the middle and AP couldn’t get tackled. Anyway I guess I’ll just rile you up and leave cause I don’t care enough to debate….I’d just like to see one of you Viking fans admit that you’d be a little pissed if the ’boys did that to your team.
haha I suppose a little but not really…just wanted to get peoples thoughts on the purple side but I guess you guys have to make it about the Packers rather than just freakin having a discussion about it.
By the way, I actually was NOT cheering against your guys this week. I didn’t exactly cheer FOR them either but it was like watching the high school bully attacking the kid that no one likes…
rethink that last line...
You mean more like the kid that no one likes, laying the smack down on the high school bully! You got your roles confused here! I’d pay to see that anyday! They make movies about great stuff like that! And always remember what happens at the end…the big bully gets up all bloodied and either goes home crying to his mommy or gets up and tries to act all tough despite being kicked in the teeth by the weakling. Keith Brooking is the big bully that got kicked in the teeth and tried to make himself look all tough before running & crying all the way back home. Grow up!
I'd be pissed at OUR defense for allowing it.
Not at the opposing offense for doing it. You….play….to…..win…..the….game.
I've been a vikings fan for 20+ years,
When the Vikings are getting beat by 20, I’ve never cared one bit if a team continues scoring in the fourth quarter. If we’re getting beat that bad in the first place, we deserve it, and I really doubt many vikings fans would care. The vikings fan base is quick to turn on their team, and would probably sarcastically cheer on whatever team that was killing us.
Honestly it would have been running up the score if we kicked the chip shot field goal.At least we gave your weak ass defense a chance to stop the points and like the rest of the game they did nothing.And if you didn’t notice it took an incredible catch to make it a TD. Should the starters still have been in, no. Was it running up the score no. Note to the cowboys don’t your press clippings till after the game
Agreed
And consider also that the Vikings were on the Cowboys 30 yard line earlier when it was 27-3 and got stopped on a fourth and seven. If they decided to kick the field goal in that situation and kick a field goal instead of going for the touchdown later, the game would have been 33-3 instead of 34-3. Kicking field goals in those situations is more disrespectful in my opinion than going for touchdowns and giving the defense a chance to stop you. All I know, though, is that we better not be worried about running up the score against the Saints next week because that offense is too powerful to ever have a comfortable lead.
LMFAO
Are you kidding me? Check out the play… Dallas was all out blitzing. if they could have killed Favre they would have and would have been happy to do it…. But oh, wait, Favre is not supposed to try even though they are trying to bury him into the ground. Great point TrevoR. Next time watch the game and don’t make it a Green vs Purple thing…
I agree on that.
I woudl have pulled Favre.
by Grime on Jan 18, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
maybe
I am not so concerned about Favre, as the game plan should have been to hand off the ball at that stage of the game. My problem is that if you are handing the ball of down the stretch, why was Adrien still in there. Chester is a much better up the gut power runner. You could see all day long that they got pumped up when they stopped A.P. so i’m sure they would have been more than happy to bust him in the knee cap one time. Besides the fact that Chester does not seem to get stripped of the ball as easily. That’s just my opinion ;)
Not exactly stupid
Point is, this is the playoffs and you will NOT see Favre on the bench again. It is not happening and that is why we got him.
As for your original comment, my take is once the defense gives up and puts their backups in then we should. Otherwise play hard from start to finish. There is a lot of momentum to be had…
by PurpleJesus on Jan 18, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
For all the talk of how little momentum matters…I am surprised that now it does? When the Cowboys and Packers had “momentum” it was meaningless but now it matters? I guess I agree to some point but I think you had PLENTY of momentum before that touchdown! haha The game was nonstop momentum!
It might be said better...
That the at this point teams need to stay consistent in order to stay in rhythm. Momentum is something larger, and clearly at this point every team alive has momentum.
well put…probably makes sense. I agree that they all have momentum…just remember EVERYONE at this point thinks their team is going to the Super Bowl so when the Saints come marching in here this week to talk trash realize that they are going to be confident just like you guys are…
nope, wrong again
i’ve been a vikings fan all my 21 years, and i know better than to look past the next game. do i feel confident about playing the saints? heck, sure. their defense looks like swiss cheese, and if we can consistently stuff reggie bush and get the pressure on brees, i think we have a decent shot. BUT i do still remember that the saints have possibly the most dangerous offense in the NFL, so i know it’ll be a very close game. BUT does that mean i’m expecting us to go to the big game? fat chance.
P.S.
we’re not being confident. it’s like kevin williams said after roy williams complained. if you’re goin around running your mouth, we’re gonna staple it shut. do you seriously think we would have reacted this way if everyone hadn’t jumped on the dallas bandwagon and pretty much said we shouldn’t show up? after a bunch of dallas fans trolled OUR boards about how bad we were gonna lose? again, fat chance.
"You are freaking out. Man."
By the power of Allen's Mullet!
did you see the last time we tried to pull Favre?
you try telling the guy to sit down when he’s havin fun :)
Adrian Peterson, enough said.
by 4 AP Jerseys on Jan 19, 2010 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
TrevorR
You asked me to stop coming to Acme and posting stuff MUCH less directly confrontational than this (stuff commenting on a specific play and call, and merely sharing directly (quoting) an official clarification from the head of NFL officieating — not general indictments about the fanbase). I did, I stopped posting over there that same day, now I just lurk.
Please, stop being a hypocrite and follow your own rules of conduct that you demand of other people. I know you can be reasonable if you want. And I understand you (anyone) can be combative in an emotional moment of loss. But this post here is neither reasonable, nor excused by emotiongs of the moment.
okay first…you posted your point and then you kept doing it over and over and over. I posted one point. Second, its not about YOUR fanbase…ANY fan would be upset to see their team have the score unneccessarily run up. The game was over. The stupid cowboys were down by like 24 points and it was fourth down. Just do a run and end it. That was my point…you can try to make it about green vs purple but it wasn’t that at all. It wasn’t trying to go after our fans (like you were last week) it was about fandom in general. I know TONS of Viking fans that were PISSED when Belichek ran up the score a couple years ago in that game.
if the game was over why were the cowboys still trying to score after it was 34 7 at the end of the game. obviously the game wasnt over so we had every right to score again
by vikesfan4lyf on Jan 18, 2010 10:34 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
History
When you’re a Viking fan, you’ve seen entirely too many games where the Mighty Purple was sitting on a pretty lead, then somehow collapsed in the 4th quarter and the opposition roars back with a zillion points in 5 minutes to win the game. Too many times, we’ve snatched defeat from the gaping jaws of victory, to take a 14 point lead for granted as being enough to win a game.
21 points… maybe. Barely. When we were up by 24 points, that’s when I started to relax and feel comfortable with the outcome. That’s the kind of defeat-trauma I deal with in every Viking game because it’s happened entirely too many times in critical games. Especially when the Cowboys, our true arch-nemesis (for all your cheesy aspirations, TrevorR, in my book the Packers are a sideshow to be swept aside before getting to real battles), has pulled more than one infamous last-second victory out of their starry-tails.
As Gonzo noted, when those time-outs started coming, do you really think we, or the Vikings, were stupid enough to not realize that the Cowboys still had some fight left in them?
The last touchdown shouldn’t have happened. On the final two Viking possessions, they deliberately ran the clock and pulled pie-in-the-sky plays on fourth down to push the game to conclusion. Do you honestly think they thought they were going to score on those fourth downs? If they really were concerned about that, they’d have taken a pair of field goals, but they didn’t.
It only happened because the Cowboys finally let down and gave up, and the Vikings were still playing every play, honestly. If you want to blame them for scoring, you go right ahead. But if you do so, don’t be a hypocrite, and remember to whine about every other game where one team gets blown out. I’ll be listening for it.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
Irony alert
you posted your point and then you kept doing it over and over and over. I posted one point.
…and then you kept doing it over and over. I’m pretty sure you have the most posts in this thread so quit acting like you are not trolling.
have you read them? ARe they saying the same thing over an over? NO…I even went out of my way to complement your team a few times. Can’t a guy make a few posts without it being about packers and vikings? Shit. Get over it. I am a football fan, I enjoy watching the game. I watch dozens of games that don’t involve my team including EVERY SINGLE Viking game. I live in MN, I listen to your boys on KFAN daily. Geez…
heh
I’m not the one that sounds worked up about it.
Sure thing Trevor, I can understand your first point.
That’s why you’re at 30 posts and counting on this thread alone. Nothing in this thread has anything to do with your beloved Packers, as their season is over. Strange, looks like hypocrisy to me.
I’ll agree that your complaints are not about our fan base. Your complaints are about the fact just can’t get over that Brett Favre and the Vikings have advanced further in the Playoffs then the Packers. You can deny it, but we all know it’s true. If the Vikings were to lose next week, you’ll be over here to gloat. If the Vikings win next week, you’ll find some else to cry about. You’re are unhappy because you can’t let go of your anger.
Prove me wrong and go away until next season.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
okay first…you posted your point and then you kept doing it over and over and over. I posted one point.
I have only two posts in this entire thread, and this is the only one directed to you. If I have made another post on any other thread over here in the last week that addressed you, please point it out to me.
You, on the other hand, have posted to this thread (making the same point) dozens of times. And then went over at Acme and started posting about how mean everyone is to you over here (which, note, I did not take the bait for), all you want to do is talk Xs and Os you say, you are never trying to incite anything, but EVERYONE here attacks your perfectly reasonable posts. Puhlease. do Ctl+F on this web page on TrevorR, see all ghis "Xs and Os posts, and see all the big bad dailynorsemen bullying poor littel innoncent trevorR so badly.
Does Not Compute. So stop the act, OK?
Never
I live in Texas and have listened to the “America’s Team” boast every day. I have followed the Vikings since the first game in 1961 and have had to suffer some pretty depressing blowouts. Never once have I heard the Viking players or fans cry about any team running up the score. When the New York Giants beat the hell out of the Vikings 41-0 several years ago, I never heard the national media cry foul regarding the Giants running up the score. The Viking players and and fans realized the team had gotten its rear end thumped.
If Dallas and its fans what to wear the self-imposed mantle of “America’s Team” then act the part, have some dignity in the loss and shut-up!
its the situation that brought it up, not the score. I do recall hearing fans of the Vikings complaining about the score but I guess if it happens again I’ll know what to tell them! haha
I said it elsewhere on here though…it couldn’t have happened to a better team (the Cowboys) if anyone needed a dose of shut up it was that team and their damn fans.
Trevor
you’re just pissed that Karen RodgHERs couldn’t hold onto the ball and at the most important moment in the game, not only fumbled the ball (and looking like a goofball in the process) but he also kicked the ball after it was stripped. And when he kicked the ball that just happened to give the Cardinals the ball and the game was over.
ooh that was SUCH a good one…what a burn. YOu are a genius dsludo. Oh man I am so sad I am going to cry in the corner.
I thought you were leaving?
In all seriousness though that choke by rodgers is the best non-vikings related highlight I’ve seen all season. Unfortunately for you, this is just the beginning of the Rodgers playoffs chokes in the coming years.
riiiight…enjoy your long future of crap QBs after you are done renting our hall of famer. Its nice to know that we’ll have TWO in a row and you haven’t had one in decades!
easy now...
…kind of hard to criticize the organization that has won two NFC North championships in a row and has used their last (3) 1st round picks to select Adrian Peterson (Rookie of Year), Jared Allen via trade and Percy Harvin (Rookie of Year). What’s to say we don’t have a QB plan for the future. Based on this organization’s progress I have faith they will find a quality replacement even if Brett leaves. In fact, it may even be via a trade since QB daft picks are such a risk. Either way, your comments seem a bit cocky for a fan of a team who has a QB that hasn’t won a big game yet and has a history of losing all of them (both Viking games this year and the playoff game).
I had no intention of going there but when you get jag comments like the one from dsludo that is the kind of response you get. I am usually a pretty rational Packer fan, my friends know me as the guy who knows more about their team than they do (meaning the Vikings). I think the Vikings are frickin amazing right now but taking pot shots on Rodgers is pretty stupid…especially when your team is in the NFC Championship.
Rodgers is young…Favre didn’t always win his big games early on in his career either. He lost quite a few of them in the playoffs too before he found his groove. Its easy to kick a team while they were down but the classy thing would be NOT make this about the team that is out and stick to your own team. For shits sake I’ve been complementing your team all over the place in here yet you all want to try to make it sound like I am going after your team.
well...
I understand getting fueled up but probably not the best idea doing that at DN. Difuse the situation and move on.
I too think you have a promising QB and sooner or later he will win a big game. I just didn’t think it was wise to get in the QB criticism talk, especially here.
Did you see the Brooking video?
On the play prior to the TD? Check it out and tell me who is classless now. Maybe he asked for the beatdown.
link?
I piss people off on a fairly regular basis. I cherish my right to speak my mind, whether I sound like an uneducated savage or not. I've never been accused of keeping what I think a secret, nor will I ever. Don't like it? I don't care.
by IABerserker1 on Jan 18, 2010 5:59 PM CST up reply actions
thanks, guy!!
i’m just too lazy to go find it!
I piss people off on a fairly regular basis. I cherish my right to speak my mind, whether I sound like an uneducated savage or not. I've never been accused of keeping what I think a secret, nor will I ever. Don't like it? I don't care.
by IABerserker1 on Jan 19, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
I think we’ve held our own in going 15-1, 10-6 (after 2-4 start) and 11-5 between ‘98 and 2000, and going to the NFC championship 2 of those 3 years – with a different starter all 3 years. Not to mention beating the Pack most of those years and matchups. Not to mention beating the Pack in our only playoff matchup in ’04. Not to mention canning the Pack twice this year with their former QB, sticking them in the wild card. Not to mention winning the division last year while using ’crap’ QBs like Tarvaris Jackson and Gus Frerotte. I’m sure we will find someone to throw the ball, though we can still see if Favre plays out his contract and brings us consecutive Super Bowls before retiring. We know Rodgers won’t be doing that this year, at the least.
something to remember
the packers got favre from the falcons, you dolt. players get traded and signed to different teams, it’s how the league works.
"You are freaking out. Man."
By the power of Allen's Mullet!
Oh I know. Like I said, I only went there because of the ridiculous comment from the guy above who routinely makes the rest of you look bad in the APC forum.
Re: Favre wasn’t more than a hope and a dream when we got him though. The fanbase was about 50-50 on him after his first few games. He eventually won us all over though obviously.
the first time EVER that a team up by more than 20 with 2 min or less on the clock THREW a TD.
ADD IT TO THE RECORD BOOKS BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!
by vikesfan4lyf on Jan 18, 2010 10:30 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
i sense a little bit of sarcasm but im not so sure yet.
by vikesfan4lyf on Jan 18, 2010 10:35 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
+51 to remember what Douche-bagel was complaining about it
Adrian Peterson, enough said.
by 4 AP Jerseys on Jan 19, 2010 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
34-0
Score of the packers destroying the vikes, after that game i was pissed that the defense sucked so much and the offense couldnt do anything, why would i care that the packers didnt send the jv team in after 24 to 0
Adrian Peterson...Beast Mode
by Grape Drank on Jan 18, 2010 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
Really? That was your argument? haha
Well the Packers scored once in the fourth quarter in that one with like 11 min left in the game. Not really the same situation as 4th down up by 24. But again, I don’t care that you did it, I was just hoping a viking fan or two would admit that they would be flaming pissed to see that happen to their team but I guess you all are fine with it…
I'd be calling for the coaches head,
not whining about running up the freaking score.
Go Nevada Wolf Pack!
by BacksThePack on Jan 19, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
Let's see
It’s 4th down, trying to get a first to keep the ball out of the other teams hand, QB drops back, looking for someone open to get 1st down and wow, one happens to be open in the endzone. So, what your saying to me is in that instance, if it had been the Packers, you would have been happy and dandy if Rodgers, with an open guy, would have said “Naw” and taken a knee down and given the ball to the Cowboys? Really? Please tell me that because I dare you too. No, you would have been whining, pissing and moaning about how Rodgers DIDNT take a shot in the endzone instead of kneeling just like the Cowboys would have been. Get over yourself and your holier then thou attitude. Stop being a hypocrite and trying to prove your point over and over again in here.
"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk."
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by VikesFaninNM on Jan 18, 2010 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
Actually I would hope they would have pulled Rodgers at that point…that is the kind of situation where guys get hurt and it could have been avoided.
I could come back with the same hypocrite crap after seeing dozens of Viking fans coming in to tell the Packer fans to not complain about penalties after they were doing it. STOP MAKING IT ABOUT THE PACKERS AND THE VIKINGS. Its not about that. Get a life.
Um
Then why come in here then?
"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk."
"You men are only risking your lives, while I am risking an almost-certain Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor!"
"We have clearance Clarence. Roger Rodger, what's our vector Victor?"
by VikesFaninNM on Jan 18, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
Hey Trevor,
Its the first time EVER that a team up by more than 20 with 2 min or less on the clock THREW a TD.
did you ever stop to think that maybe, that’s because all the other teams in history knew that the other team could throw the ball? Do you think that they might have used that knowledge and actually covered that guy going out for a pass?
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
Well Trevor, then kindly explain to me, who posted this?
you know if it happened to your team you would TOTALLY be pissing and moaning all about how disrespectful it was. Personally I don’t really care but it bothers me to hear all the Viking fans suddenly not caring.
Its the first time EVER that a team up by more than 20 with 2 min or less on the clock THREW a TD. Its not like you guys ran the ball up the middle and AP couldn’t get tackled. Anyway I guess I’ll just rile you up and leave cause I don’t care enough to debate….I’d just like to see one of you Viking fans admit that you’d be a little pissed if the ’boys did that to your team.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
No, you are wrong on several accounts
The Rams and Giants have run up scores on the Vikes in playoff games in recent memory and the big discussion afterwards wasn’t how “classless” it was of them to keep scoring. It was how disappointed we were in our own suckitude.
Some food for thought:
The Cowboys continued to go for it on 4th down rather than punt. They used their timeouts to extend the game with absolutely no chance of coming back. You guys were BEGGING us to score more.
The Cowboys and media talked real big about our chances all week. Our fans and players wanted blood. Chilly allowed them to have it.
Several years ago the Cowboys kicked a field goal in a preseason game to tie it for overtime. This annoyed us. YOU DON’T ANNOY US!!!
What the Vikings did was borderline much. We should have had second teamers in there calling runs only. I do agree with that. But it was not “classless”. That is waaaaayyyy to strong of a word and blows the whole thing out of proportion. Keith Brookings going to our sideline and screaming at our coaching staff was classless. Your head coach and Brookings, tail tucked firmly between their legs calling us classless after the game, that is classless. The Vikings calling a pass on 4th and 3 after the Cowboys gave us the ball on like the 30…that is just playing a game called football.
You guys all sound incredibly girly when you whine about how badly we stung that ass.
The first time ever my ass
Was this the first or second NFL game that you have watched, because this wasn’t the first time it has happened. If Dallas does it then it’s perfectly ok (hmmmm think vs. Eagles). Hell anything Dallas does is supposed to be well received no matter what. Face the facts here Trevor, Dallas as well as it’s fans and even “professional” sports analysts did nothing but talk smack about the Vikings. The Vikings were “supposedly” outclassed, outgunned, and outcoached going into the game, what happened in the last 6 minutes oif the game was totally justified no matter how you look at it, they had it coming and now they can think about it during the offseason while they sit holding hands singing “nobody knows the troubles I’ve seen”. So no Trevor we have no reason to admit that we would be pissed if the “boys” did that to us, we would be pissed if the Vikings didn’t stop it from happening. Place the blame with whom it belongs, or better yet why don’t you go hold hands with the “boys” and whine alongside them.
its the playoffs
cant take any chances, lose, and you go home.
my theory has always been
GO BIG OR GO HOME!
no one is complaining about the other teams running up the score, so shut the f* up already
I WOULD BE PISSED
I am a Vikings fan and I have to admit I would be pissed if that happened to us. I would be pissed that I put my heart and soul into another season of football to have my team completely lay an egg in the post season. Be upset at the right people the Cowboys D!
I guess next time the NFL should take a time out approach both coaches with 6 minutes to go and say do you guys want to kneel this one out?
If the Vikings dont convert do the Cowboys take a knee?? Doubt it!
THANK YOU
My wife was able to admit it too…
Trust me, I get the “if you don’t like it, stop us” mentality. I would also feel some sympathy for the other side…it sucks to have that happen. It sucks enough when your team is completely outplayed in all aspects like the cowboys were (nice work Vikes) but on top of that the score was just like pouring acid into a huge wound.
Well i will say this
In the beginning of the year Chilly was to quick to call it a win and almost got us a couple lossed because of it 14 points at half is not time to call prevent…
Game over 7 min into 1st qrt
The ending was told by the look of fear and confusion in Tony Romos eyes in the 1st 6 min of the game. He was lost and knew it. And as for running up the score Brookings is an idiot. The Vikings were running him and the rest of the cowgirls out of town.
- Forever
#4 Superior
Gonzo-Well Done!
I agree with you 110% and really enjoyed the humor and sarcasm. There’s no such thing as running up the score. The Cowboys got their butts kicked fair and square and don’t have the balls to admit they were just plain beaten by the better team. What’s funny is that “some” of their fans on BTB have been bigger men in defeat than the players and coaching staff. R.I.P Cowboys until next year.
"Skol Vikings! Let's win this game Skol Vikings!
I don't see that we have a lot to complain about.
It’s really irrelevant whether that last TD was questionable or not. With the 4th down, the Vikings needed to convvert, and there was not a lot of field left. You can question it if you like, I guess, but from a Cowboys perspective it’s really the least of our worries. i will say that I don’t mind Brooking’s taking it amiss: I like competitors who really, deeply care like that, even if in reality he does not have a lot to complain about.
it ill becomes fans of a franchise like the Cowboys to complain about this kind of thing. It makes us sound like Detroit.
Thats the part I don’t get…people complain about Brookings saying HE was being classless…he was just being a competitor. IT was probably stupid of him to do but he was pissed…it happens. why am I defending someone from the Cowboys…ugh…what a terrible day that is!
wait
youre not a cowboys fan?
by vikesfan4lyf on Jan 18, 2010 10:37 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
nope...
I loathe the cowboys…almost as much as I loathe your Vikings! (that should tell ya who my team is)
That said, your team freakin dominated them. I loved watching Jerry Jones’ face in the box as his team was getting decimated. Nice work.
No, he's just an anti-Vikings guy
This just happens to be the excuse-du-jour to try to cap on the Vikings for something which, for all the years that the NFL has existed that he’s been alive, he’s never complained about. But today he’s feeling his oats and wants to rain on our parade.
Well, most of us aren’t buying into it the whine, so he’ll eventually go away until he thinks of something else he can try to bring us down with, and then he’ll be back to try again. More than a little bit malicious and pathetic, we should be more careful when it comes to feeding trolls.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
Keep proving me correct. Trevor.
riiiight…enjoy your long future of crap QBs after you are done renting our hall of famer. Its nice to know that we’ll have TWO in a row and you haven’t had one in decades!
by TrevorR on Jan 18, 2010 10:46 AM CST
BTW, As you can now tell,I didn’t say what I said to make myself “feel better”. I really don’t need to, as my Vikings are still playing and your Packers are not.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
I know I'm late in this thread but the stupidity of this comment just begs for clarification.
He was classless because you play the game on the field. Since he was getting his ass handed to him on the field and had been totally shut down he decided to resort to the only thing he had left… his mouth, as if anything he had to say would somehow lessen the pain of his ass-kicking. If you don’t see how this epitomizes the word “crybaby” then you’re considerably dumber than your general language skills seem to indicate.
Your behavior TrevoR is somewhat analagous… since you no longer have a dog in the show you’ve decided to troll us and instigate with your shit-for-brains logic and purple-hating “objectivity”. Go away and cry in your cheese…
Brooking..
had his ass handed to him on the field? Huh? the Cowboys’ run defense was one of the few areas that went ok. how can you possibly justify that remark?
Trevor, Trevor, Trevor.
he was just being a competitor.
All professional football players are competitors. Are you suggesting that when a team gets embarrassed and pissed off, they should all run over to the opposing bench and start talking smack?
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
it doesn’t need to ,but it does. Its no different than a guy jawing to a guy who hit him…its competitveness. It comes with the game I guess.
It is different...
He went from crying on the field to crying to the media. He even acknowledged that “ultimately it’s their jobs” to stop their opponents while complaining that there is no place (in the league) for late game, fourth down touchdown passes in the playoffs when leading.
The guy jawing after being hit rarely takes his beef to the media.
Brookings was being classless, obviously
You don’t go to the opponent’s sideline and scream at their coach. That isn’t being competitive. That is being a big blubbery baby. How often do you see it? Not very often because it is a terrible thing to do. It is called being a sore loser. They were so hurt by the ass stinging that they wanted to somehow make us look bad as “revenge”. It was BS.
one play
that’s all the vikes could do after the 2 minute warning—it was fourth down, one play. does it matter if it’s a run or a pass? what’s the difference? it’s not like they threw an incompletion on first down to stop the clock before scoring.
favre is all about himself
he’s still trying to show the Packers fans “I told you so.” He never threw for 4 touchdown passes in the playoffs, so this was all about him. He’s one of the biggest egomaniacs in recent NFL history. After the NFL his best chance of being on t.v. is Celebrity Rehab.
A Jets troll already?!?
No, I don’t think so. Look at the guys’ profile. The account was just registerd a couple minutes before thei post, this is his only post on SB.
A bitter Packer fan trying to manufacture the appearance of wider bitterness towards Favre, is my guess.
Please, let it go. This stuff is all been hashed and rehashed to death. It’s almost tow YEARS now.
The Jets will be destroyed/exposed by the Colts!
Revis can take away Wayne and Manning will still rip them.
Vikings 38, Cowboys 17.
You couldn't dipsute anything I wrote
You probably agree with what I wrote, but don’t want too admit it. He was an icon in GB ruined his legacy with his selfishness. He wants so bad to be included with the all-time greats, Bradshaw, Young, Aikman, but he doesn’t have the one thing that those guys do (besides class), a second Super Bowl. Those guys all retired after playing long careers with the same team and retired with class and appreciation for the fans that supported them. This guy could care less about the fans and only care about squeezing his massice ego into his helmet and trying to become pad his stats. I dont expect you to admit it on this board, but we both know you agree.
He has far more accomplishments than those guys. Half the guys you mentioned just got lucky to join up with a great team and a great coach. I can’t believe THOSE are the ones you mentioned in the “all time great” category! hahaha
couldn't agree with this statement more
I can’t believe THOSE are the ones you mentioned in the "all time great" category! hahaha
my feelings exactly
I piss people off on a fairly regular basis. I cherish my right to speak my mind, whether I sound like an uneducated savage or not. I've never been accused of keeping what I think a secret, nor will I ever. Don't like it? I don't care.
by IABerserker1 on Jan 18, 2010 4:32 PM CST up reply actions
You still couldn't dispute what I wrote
You’re probably too young to rememer those guys, but it seems like Favre has played twice as long as them, but I guess that’s why he has “far more accomplishments” as you say. Would you rather have 3 Super Bowl rings and a SB MVP (he has neither) or great individual stats? He’s trying so hard to get there. I guess it’s just too easy to get a great team and coach together and put together a SB championship as you say those guys did. Why doesn’t everyone do it? Mayve I’ll try myself next season.
I’d take Favre over Bradshaw, Young, and Aikman…in a heartbeat. Aikman was surrounded by the best offensive line ever assembled. He had a pro bowl WR, the top rushing running back in the history of the league and a pretty dang good defense. I think Byron Leftwich could have won a title or two with that team. Bradshaw? Seriously? ALL he accomplished was super bowls…he was NOT a top 10 QB at all. Not even in the discussion. His biggest addition to the game has been in the booth! haha Young was is the best of the bunch but I’d take Favre over him in a heartbeat. You are giving a LOT of credit to something that it takes a team to win. How did Young do as a Buccaneer? Not great in his one year as starter…he didn’t have the team around him. He had two seasons over 4000 yds (*heck Rodgers has that already), 2 seasons with 30+ TDs and he had the best receiver to EVER play the game there the entire time.
Your comparison is ridiculous.
Sanchez sucks
and you lose next week. The most lucky team in NFL history so far is the 2009-2010 NY Jets.
you've done well to include that little tidbit, sir!
I piss people off on a fairly regular basis. I cherish my right to speak my mind, whether I sound like an uneducated savage or not. I've never been accused of keeping what I think a secret, nor will I ever. Don't like it? I don't care.
by IABerserker1 on Jan 18, 2010 10:00 AM CST up reply actions
I concur, IABerserker1
Very thoughtful of you to point that out, sir.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
What on earth does 'running up the score' mean?
There’s no concept of ‘running up the score’ in any sport in the UK (or anywhere else in the world as far as I know). Sport’s supposed to be competitive. Honestly, I think if a team took their foot off the gas in order to make the opposition team feel better it would be interpreted as being patronising.
by chrisdymond on Jan 18, 2010 9:04 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
'running up the score'
applies to sports when we are kids. Such as the time our own city set up our 12 year old basketball tournament and seeded our B team (the team I was on) against one of the best of the A teams. We ended up losing by 60, but it could have been worse had they kept full court pressure and fast breaks going all game.
Solid post
As a fan of the NFL who has no vested interest in either of these teams, I’ll say this – first, Dallas certainly still had a shred of hope they could win this game, otherwise they wouldn’t have been calling timeouts. As long as that’s the case, the Vikings should continue to go 100%
Second, I noticed in the second half (once the outcome of the game started to become clear), the Cowboys defense was still doing a lot of chest thumping and smack talking when they made a play, scoreboard be damned.
As to the game in general, I was surprised with all the Cowboys love that was happening prior to this game. Five weeks ago, the Cowboys were an inconsistent, uninspired football team facing a difficult schedule. They played well down the stretch, sure, but making them the favorites to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl was ignoring a good portion of the season.
The Vikings were the better, more consistent team all season. That stadium is a tremendous home field advantage. So while the result was a bit more one-sided than I expected, I wasn’t surprised that the Vikings won the game.
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
I noticed also...
there was at least one play where the Vikes ran for a six-yard gain on first or 2nd down, and the Dallas tackler jumped up pumping their chest like it was a six yard loss. Isn’t ending a six yard gain typically not worthy of jubilation?
There are, however, injuries
And that’s why I was infuriated that our starters were still in the game. So Brad Childress wants to pull Favre when your team is up 7-6 in the third, but not when they’re up 27-3 in the late fourth? Idiot.
by JasonW on Jan 18, 2010 9:16 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Come on Jason
I think we all know there will never be a threat to pull Brett again this year. There is NO way he is coming out of any more games this year. 27-3 or not….
Not at the end of his career
That is not happening the rest of this year. I truly believe this is his last year and he will play all game, every game, every play from here on out.
Favre wanted to stay out there and keep a good rhythm going for next week.
I can’t believe after everything Chilly has done and the success he has had this season that anyone would be calling him an idiot.
When Dallas used all their timeouts late when no, there wasent a chance for them to come back Chilly said fine wanna play that game we will crush you! By not letting off the pedal they should be ready to go full steam next week, knowing that mercy won’t be shown to them when facing the Saints.
Vikings 38, Cowboys 17.
Ditto...
He has the rest of his life to rest…. These are perhaps the last plays of his NFL career. Not happening…
by PurpleJesus on Jan 18, 2010 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
Meh, seems like a vaporish issue to me. Honestly I don’t necessarily blame Brooking for reacting like he did—frustration causes everyone to act out. And I don’t necessarily blame the Vikings for making that play. That stuff just happens sometimes in these situations.
Honestly, I’m most annoyed with Buck. I found his tone went way out of line (which as Vikings fans we know he is wont to do). Telling us about Brooking v. the Vikings bench basically summed up the situation; letting the judgement rain seems like it’s going beyond his call of duty. I’m always a “let the players handle it” guy on these issues.
But again, meh. I’m sure some players and maybe some fans will refuse to digest it, but the whole thing will blow over. USC vs. UCLA was a somewhat similar yet MUCH more volatile example of what happened, and people seemed to have moved on from that one. If UCLA gets revenge some day, more power to them. Just like the Cowboys.
To be clear, I don’t really agree with what the Vikings did. Having TJack hand off to Albert Young 4 times would’ve probably been what I would’ve done. I just don’t think Childress or Favre or whomever is Satan’s Spawn for doing it, either. There’s always way too much judgement in these situations, IMO.
And honestly, it’s probably even debatable whether bringing in the subs to run out the clock is any more “salt in the wound” than what happened. As per usual, it’s all distracting from the rest of the game that led up to that point.
Joe Buck
You mean, the guy who it took 10 minutes of game time to finally figure out that the Vikings could neither accept nor decline a running into the kicker penalty AGAINST THEMSELVES!
Surprisingly, I found Buck more annoying than Aikman yesterday. Once Dallas got down, Troy sounded (and looked) pretty much comatose.
by Adam Peterson on Jan 18, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
And that's saying something
Considering all the idiotic things I have heard Aikman say this season, such as “I would be worried if I were Brad Childress about Brett Favre throwing so few interceptions this season because you know he’s due for a bad game here pretty soon.” That’s my favorite. He said it during the first Bears-Vikings game. He’s also the same guy who said last week during Cards-Pack that a Cardinals defender had good coverage on a Packers’ receiver even though he acknowledged that the defender had committed pass interference. Huh? Unfortunately, we get to sit through Buck-Aikman next week too. How are those two guys (particularly Aikman) Fox’s #1 commentator team?
Dallas isn’t exactly coming across as a team that deserved a chance. They went for it on 4th. They still rushed Favre. What did they want us to do?
Anyway, I thought this was pretty funny:
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/polls?pCat=46&sCat=962
80% of people out there agree that it was just part of the game. Only thing I’m slightly worried about is reporters distracting players all week with this stupid non-drama.
You are right
The media “experts” love a circus so they’ll run with this story. They’ll also use it to divert attention from their own very poor insight last week as to how these two teams stacked up. As long as everyone is talking about this, no one will talk about how the experts didn’t have a clue about a Vikings Cowboys matchup. The media is also duplicitous. Remember they called Randy Moss out for quitting early, or not playing on every down? But suddenly now it’s okay to not play on every down. Let the fiasco play out Vikes. You played until the end of the game. That’s what your fans wanted.
Media-Created Controversy
I think part of why they do this is to try to make enough noise that people will forget how wrong they were in their ‘in-depth, professional, insightful analysis of the game’. A problem they’d never have if they didn’t start taking sides in the games and playing ‘advocacy journalism’.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
Way to go Vikes!!
Congrats on the win. I enjoyed watching you guys take apart the Cowboys and Romo the Homo.(sorry just had to) See you guys in the Super Dome. Looking forward to a great game.
Agreed Gonzo,
If your blown out with no chance of coming back don’t burn all three timeouts to stop the clock late in the game.
Vikings 38, Cowboys 17.
Disagree
Both teams should have played until the end of the game. Wade Phillips wasn’t waving a white flag. The Cowboys did what they should have, and the Vikings responded. Brooking is the only one who seemed to think the game should have stopped after 58 minutes.
Well if your gonna call 3 timeouts with only a few minuted left, facing an insurmountable lead...
Than you shouldn’t be upset when the other team keeps pushing.
So quit with the sour face Philips, Brooking.
Vikings 38, Cowboys 17.
That's where I am
As long as Dallas is still throwing the football, calling timeouts, going for it on 4th down, you keep your foot on the gas. If they started running out the clock, that’s when I start kneeling.
by Adam Peterson on Jan 18, 2010 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
Agreed
The Cowboys felt there was still a shred of opportunity to win the game, thus the timeouts being called. If they feel they still have a chance for victory, albeit small, then the Vikings have every right to step on their throats until they admit defeat.
"When you look at him, you say: 'Holy God.'" - Pete Carril on Tyreke Evans
Doing what they're paid for
Fans paid hundreds of dollars to attend the game. Sponsors paid thousands of dollars for their ads to be aired on the telecast. Professional athletes are paid millions of dollars to play until the end of the game. Yesterday the Vikings did just that. It was classless for Brooking to suggest anything else than playing for 60 minutes was appropriate. I remember being absolutely embarrassed for the Vikings franchise when Randy Moss walked off the field before the end of the 2001 NFC Championship game in New York. He was forever after that a quitter in my book. I agree with most of what you said Gonzo. Where we disagree is that I think it was the right thing for the Cowboys to use their timeouts at the end of the game. They shouldn’t have quit, and neither should the Vikings. This is the NFL, not Pop Warner football where hurt feelings are coddled. Mike Ditka said it best this morning on ESPN radio: “If I am already getting my butt kicked, then I have earned the right to get my butt REALLY kicked… the other team can do anything they want to me. It doesn’t matter”. Cowboy up Brooking. You sound like a poor loser. And since you are referred to as the “vocal leader” of the Cowboys it is reflecting poorly on your own team.
I think Gonzo meant if your going to use all your timeouts, that late, than no mercy will be shown.
Vikings 38, Cowboys 17.
I'm not as mad at Brooking
as at the media, etc after the game. For Brooking, I chalk this up to frustration at having my ass handed to me, and that given a few more days he’ll be more upset at the massive egg his team laid than at the Vikings.
by Adam Peterson on Jan 18, 2010 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
McKinnie's ankle looked good yesterday.
I cannot believe I chirped Jared Allen earlier in the season. He had a few game stretch late in the season where he was getting doubled and slowed down. Due to the fact he said he isn’t a big weightroom guy I told him to hit the gym. I think he knows what he is doing and has had the most sacks in the league over the past 4 years. He is never down for long and I should have realized it. Go Jared!
Ray Edwards looked like superman yesterday! Rice too, Favre…
Vikings 38, Cowboys 17.
Rest helped Allen
but so did Flozell Adams going down and the return of Pat Williams. When the Williams brothers are collapsing the inside, it frees up Allen and Edwards to get to the QB. Edwards in particular played like a man possessed.
by Adam Peterson on Jan 18, 2010 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
Great post Gonzo
If the shoe was on the other foot I am quite sure the Cowboys would have done the same thing. Mr. Brooking…where were you for the first 54 minutes of the game??? You were suppose to have Favre on the jog (he never runs) all day because our O-line was perceived to be so porous that we could not stop you.
Dallas came in believing the hype that the NY based media always throw on the NFC East teams. They are the “dominant division” and the division champ is for some reason know only to God, is always anointed as a Super Bowl bound team from the NFC.
The Cowboys beat Philly 2 weeks in a row because the Eagles appeared to have already checked out for the season. They didn’t show up in anyway shape or form…much like our NFC East opponent in week 17. Our win was touted as a blow out over a team that knew their season was over, while the media stroked the collective ego of the Cowboys for dominating Phiily.
Well this is what happens when you run into a team that the media gives no chance, oh and they have the game to back it up. I would like to continue but Gonzo would have to life the swearing ban or I would be banished from this forum so will stop here.
SKOL VIKINGS!!!!!!
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Beer and food for 24 tailgate bus trip - More than $150
Watching Jared Allen destroy Jay Cutler LIVE - Priceless!!!!
SKOL Vikings!!!!
The sports world owe the Vikings an apology
“OH MY!, the vikings ran the score on us.” This just proves that the Cowboys, the fans, and the sports writers have something else to cry about since they was proven wrong and felt that we was a easy win. Keep in mind Cowboy fans we are not the Raiders, Tampa Bay, or Eagles. You finally played a REAL team. The Eagles did not cried when you blew them out as well as Washington. I will admit this was not Romo fault but the Cowboys offensive line have never played a vicious defense as our front four and the different blitz and stunts packages. Keep in mind all the players step up their game. I was also excited that our secondary stepped up as well by containing their receivers especially Miles Austin.
On another note maybe I should be a surprise commentator on the shows like NFL Network or Sports Center. Majority of the sports writers, analysts, and fans was in agreement of being DEAD WRONG. You can tell at the half time show how Michael and Terry’s mood change as well as the others commentators. No one gave us a chance at all. This article is exactly how all VIKING fans felt and thought. GO VIKES!
Mike & Mike
The “National Media” was at its best this morning with Mike & Mike on BSPN. In his usual Greenberg way of making everything that he wants to be bad- worse, Greenbergs rant about the Vikings running up the score was right up there. It almost looked like Golic wanted to really disagree with him and say its part of the game, he backed off too.
As is usual with their programming if it doesn’t start with NEW (England,Jets etc) it isn’t a part of modern America.
And Buck wasn’t much better, it sounded like he wanted to say more than he was, and finally got to the point at the end of the game where he where his tone said “can I go home now”.
The last time I looked the NFL didn’t have a mercy rule and playing to the end was part of the game. I agree that if the Vikes had put in the “second team” it would have been much the same as the TD.
Cowboy fan here
Hey I agree there is no such thing as ‘running up the score’, I wouldn’t care how much we lost by, we still lost. If we lose by any amount, it proves that we were not the better team.
But seriously, don’t go after Keith Brooking. He has been such an emotional leader and without him, the Cowboy Defense would be the same as last year. He is a respected player with a passion for the game, no need to be personal and call a great player “dumb”.
+1
Very well said. My fault is with the media, not Brooking.
by Adam Peterson on Jan 18, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
leadership?
expecting your opponent to take a knee at the end of the game and then trash talking the opponents coaches. Are these things the Cowboys are expecting from a team leader?
Keith Brooking has a short memory
Guys, Brooking doesn’t mind a team throwing in that situation… He just minds that it was against his team.
by JasonB on Jan 18, 2010 10:35 AM CST reply actions 6 recs
was a good write up
makes brookings seem like a total ass wipe
Adrian Peterson...Beast Mode
by Grape Drank on Jan 18, 2010 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
Out F'ing Standing, Jason
I had no idea that that had occurred. Awesome.
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by Christopher Gates on Jan 18, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
Excellent point!
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jan 18, 2010 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks Jason,
Now the next time they start spouting of about Karma, I guess we’ll have an answer for them
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
I hate Romo
and if they want to cry about us scoring that TD, just take it as payback for making me watch this idiot noodlehead Romo every week. I’m the one who’s disrespected in the fact that I have to watch this stupid cocky QB.
But in this case, I do appreciate the fact that I got a chance all game to watch my favorite team do exactly what I wish everyone would do to Romo.
One more thing
If Brooking and the Cowboys don’t want a TD scored in that situation, they should petition the league to allow for a giant pink flag that the coach can throw on the field – not a new challenge flag, but a mercy flag that immediately ends the game if they don’t want to continue competing.
Make it a pink towel.
It would be so humiliating to even think about throwing that towel, it would never happen. But it would put to bed any more talk bout running up the score, because the losing team would actually have the ability to “stop them” with it. That and it would make such a great talking point. Late in every rout the announcers would start asking “should they throw in the towel?”
Then the former player/color commentator would gruffly comment how absurd that is and immediately start saying how these guys are professionals and you never give up, etc. further putting the idea to bed.
They could even put one on each sideline in a glass case with a dainty little hammer hanging next to it. The camera could zoom in on it as the game gets out of hand while the sideline reported stands next to it.
A good coach makes his team better, he doesn’t wait for a better team to make him look good.
Seriously, the broadcasters could eat it with a spoon, they would love it. A solid ten minutes of suspense at the end of those blowout games. “And that makes the score 45-10! Will the Rams throw in the towel??”
“I’m telling you, Cris, you cannot even THINK about throwing in the towel at this stage! Your team has battled the entire game – no, the ENTIRE game – and when you throw in that towel, even consider it, you run the risk of losing your QB’s focus going forward, and valuable season ticket holders.”
“Well, we can tell you the last time the towel was thrown in by this team was back in Week 16 in 2014 in that ugly defeat 70-12 by the 45 year old Favre and the Vikings, a modern era points record by a team.”
pink would be best
to make it promote breast cancer awareness as well
Because we made a suggestion that classy, people would mistake us for Packers fans.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Jan 18, 2010 5:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Ummm...
Well you’d have to find someone to bleed on it before each game. And since it’s a bodily fluid I think biohazardous materials rules would apply so that would make things more complicated as well.
But if you prefer bloody tampons to towels no one is stopping you from using them in your own home. Have at it my friend, I’m not here to judge.
A good coach makes his team better, he doesn’t wait for a better team to make him look good.
Fabulous Idea!
But dollars to doughnuts the Competition Committee doesn’t even pretend to consider it. Because, you know they are all about competing.
The Cowboys and their fans should be upset about the late score; no more than the prior three, but they have a right to be upset. They don’t have the right to stalk their opponents sideline taunting them for being successful. They don’t have the right to take their arguments to the media. Their fans don’t have the right to complain on websites. Take your lumps and get even when you have the opportunity.
As a man, how does Brookings justify his comments. He only spoke of what the Vikings shouldn’t do. What he is basically asking is for his opponent not to try. Where is the pride in that?
Sorry, But I Have To Disagree
Hey, you guys were the vastly superior team yesterday, and I tip my hat to the Vikings players. The Cowboys were simply dominated.
I’m not holding anything against the Vikes for that last touchdown, and it’s something that happens in the NFL, but I’ve got to call it what it is, and it was an unnecessary touchdown late in the game to run up the score. Keith Brooking was right in showing the emotion he did. The offense did nothing to help the defense and they played their hearts out. The Vikes were simply the better team. No whining, just my observation.
Good luck to you guys against the Saints. It should be a great game.
Greetings from the Humungus, the Ruler of the Wasteland, the Ayatollah of Rock and Roll-A. I laugh at your puny plans.
good luck against the saints?
They call one of our most respected players and the leader of our defense “crying like a little girl” and “dumb”, while New Orleans deserves so much more than the vikings.
I hope the Saints win, and while I am holding off on calling Jared Allen or Brett Favre nasty names, the blog here seems to endorse childish name calling.
It's funny..
How we have heard constantly about how the Vikings were getting disrespect from the national media, etc before the game. And it was true, as it turns out. But now everyone is so upset over the Brooking complaint? How is that not just another media-driven event? Why should Vikings fans care what an opposing player says about the last score? it’s not like he tried to injure sombody, or took a dive on the field a la Mcnabb or Brandon Jacobs.
He did pin Berrian down
with an elbow to the neck because he was frustrated. Not exactly a classy act by Brooking. He’s a sore loser.
double post award!
yes it was!!
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 18, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
Has anyone considered. . .
I think the reason Keith Brooking was upset was not because the Vikings continued to score points late in the game, its because they decided to go for it on 4th and 3 from the 11 yard line. How many situations in football can you think of where a team goes for it on fourth and 3 from the eleven yard line when winning the game. This might be the first time I have ever seen that happen. Lets stop and consider for a moment the possible reasons why a coach might decide to go for it.
A. He is a poor sport and thinks its fun to humiliate an opponent
B. He is tired of hearing how much better Dallas is from all the talking head and wants to put some additional punctuation on a good win
C. The call actually makes sense from a game management standpoint
I am going with answer C. At this point in the game, Dallas is clearly still playing to come back and win. The Vikings are ahead by 24 points. The clock stops on change of posession. Running the ball doesn’t make much sense. The Vikes were having a hard time running the ball and if you dont get the first down, the clock stops anyway. From a clock managment standpoint, you need to run whatever play is going to get you a first down. That is the only way you can continue to eat up the clock. Now that that is settled, lets take a closer look at the score and how that affects the situation. The only way the Cowboys can beat you at this point is to score 4 straight touchdowns for a total of 28 points. Up by 24, kicking a field goal doesn’t change anything. It puts you up by 27 and the Cowboys are faced with the same exact situation. Going for it gives you the opportunity to take more time off the clock and if you score, it makes Dallas have to score 4 touchdowns and a field goal. In addition, you completely take the fight out of the other team. I dont see why you would elect to kick the field goal here. It offers very little benefit. Going for and not getting the first down doesn’t hurt you much and if you score you completely end the game. Easy choice in my opinion. The most respect you can show an opponent is to treat them like they might come back and beat you at any moment. Treating an opponent like they are already beaten is disrespectful. Finishing them off is not.
by Nublove on Jan 18, 2010 12:16 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
The game was an embarrassment way before that last score, yet the Cowboys with six minutes to play were strictly passing, running sideline routes, calling timeouts and playing four downs. If you want to lose by seven less points, why can’t your opponent to beat you by seven more.
I’ve heard the motivation questioned. Childress’ “Tazmanian Devils” comment would indicate it was a shot at the media who showed little respect for his team all week. Regardless, there are many ways to look at. The bottom line is the Cowboys needed to play better football (worrying about this should have been like 10-12 on the list).
Nublove, is it or is it not true what JasonB's link above suggests?
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
I can understand why Brooking reacted the way he did in that moment. At face value it looks like Childress was just trying to add insult to injury. (After the way everybody dogged the Vikings all week I would necessarily blame him.) In the end though, I think the Vikings were just trying to get another first down and take more time off the clock. Shiancoe gets open, Favre throws him the ball, Vikings score. That throw was the safest on the field and Favre threw it where it had no chance to get picked off. Shiancoe had to make a hell of a play. Kicking the field goal doesn’t help them much in terms of points or clock managment and they didn’t stand to loose much if they dont convert on 4th down. In fact kicking the field goal just gives the Cowboys the ball back with better field position and they still need the same number of scores to win. I just wish someone would consider that this might have been nothing more than a good game management decision by Childress without some hidden meaning and agenda.
I agree 100%, very well put.
For some odd reason, I just asked the question to the wrong person.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
Thoughts from a Steelers fan
Good win Vikes. I hope you and Brett Farve make it all the way to the Super Bowl!
Regarding Keith Brookings comments, it reminds me of a great line from Unforgiven…
“You just shot an unarmed man” to which Clint Eastwood replies “Well, he should have armed himself”
Cowgirls need to stop crying from the butt whooping you guys put on them.
Congrats again.
Dallas = Crybabies
So let’s see now, 18, 51 and other cowboy players act like complete disresepectful punk azz betches at the start of the game — in the Vikings’ house — and then 51 (and some Dallas fans) are whining and sniveling that the Vikings played the game for the full 60 minutes … but that’s somehow disrespectful from the Vikings? 51 gets away with a total cheap shot hit on Favre and then later, goes around sobbing and moaning like a little girl because Favre threw a touchdown pass to close out the game? Grow up y’all. This is the NFL not grade school. What goes around comes around. SKOL VIKINGS!
smehan55
Who..
is crying about what here? Why are your panties in a bunch about Brooking anyway? Surely the Viking nation has more important things to worry about at this point.
You're right, we do
We’re just responding to a lame, whiney accusation which is an attempt by Brookings and picked up by media analysts who were proven wrong, to make it look as if the Vikings were ‘unsportsman-like’ or mean-spirited.
Anyone who tries to thump on our team through us is going to get push-back, same as anyone who tried to thump on your team through you Dallas fans. To expect otherwise is pretty unrealistic.
In this case, the whole “issue” is farcical, and hopefully the Vikings have already set it aside and are focusing on New Orleans.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
Wave the flag
It is strange to me to hear that the Vikings ran up the score. Here are a couple of things that I would expect if you want the Vikings or any team to stop playing. It is ok that the Cowboys used their timeouts because they were going to need all that time to get back in the game. It does however indicate that they still felt they had a chance to win.
1. You want the other team to stop then you have to wave the white flag.
a. That means you are not still trying to stop the clock. Run out of bounds, side line passes, ….
b. You are not going for it on 4th down
c. Most important put your second team in the game. That says it like nothing else.
The Cowboys did none of that on Sunday but yet we are reading silliness about running up the score. Sorry but in the pros the only time I would tolerate seeing my team quit playing is if the coach on the other side waves the white flag and that did not happen so Wade Phillips had no place making the comment that he did. Brooking’s was upset and wrong to make the comment but it was really up to the cowboys coach to make the first move. I never saw that happen and most of the Cowboy’s fans that I have spoken with say that if the Cowboys did not want the Vikings to score then they should have stopped them. I can certainly respect that attitude but what they certainly need to do if they want the other professional team to stop is wave the flag.
Running up the Score
Hey Vi-Queen fans!
You guys sound pretty cocky today.
Enjoy your victory against Americas Team!
Let’s see you feel next Sunday when you go to the Superdome in the Big Easy and Drew Brees and the Saints hand you your ass!
Fun fact:
Dallas Superbowl wins: 5
Vi-Queen Superbowl wins: 0
I’m not trying to be rude, or “run up the score” on you guys, just stating some facts.
It’s called reality, now suck on it!
Tex
Enjoy fishing next week.
Take the money you saved on those Dallas NFC Championship game tickets that don’t exist, and buy an extra-size boat so you can sulk in the middle of the lake.
dude…give up the America’s team thing…I know the fans didn’t create it but it makes you sound stupid and ridiculous when you keep using it.
Reality is your team lost and got their asses handed to them…and I’m not even a Viking fan. What a stupid post to make after your team got completely handled in all respects of the game.
Right...
because those previous 5 Superbowl wins really mattered after getting your asses handed to you yesterday. If Dallas is America’s Team, then we just went all Al Qaeda on your ass. (too far?)
by Jepp The Viking on Jan 18, 2010 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
+1
"You are freaking out. Man."
By the power of Allen's Mullet!
Passes you a fresh tampon
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
I think it's great that you hold on
To the whole “America’s Team” thing.
I’ve been to a lot of places around America, and I can count the number of people that I’ve met outside of Texas that don’t despise the Cowboys on one hand. And have fingers left over.
Face it. . .you, like many of your fellow Cowboy fans, thought that the Cowboys didn’t have to do anything yesterday other than show up and toss their helmets on the field. After that, the Vikings would be just so scared and so impressed that they’d curl up into the fetal position and let Dallas win. We heard it from your fellow crybaby, arrogant punk fans all week long.
Enjoy your off-season. I hope you’re looking forward to another year of Wade “Let’s have a tight end block Jared Allen and single cover Sidney Rice all day long” Phillips as your head coach. To borrow a phrase from Rick Pitino, Tom Landry ain’t comin’ through that door. . .Jimmy Johnson ain’t comin’ through that door. . .hell, Barry Switzer ain’t even comin’ through that door.
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by Christopher Gates on Jan 18, 2010 4:52 PM CST up reply actions
I will...
Enjoy the off season! Thanks.
The Cowboys have a great nucleus and we should be able to fill in the missing gaps during the off season.
I hope you enjoy the off season too after your defense gets dismantled by Drew Brees and the New Orleans offense. Not to mention that Favre will morph into his self-destructing playoff form and throw at least 3 picks.
I’d rather have another year of Wade than another year of wondering whether or not my douche-bag quarterback is going to leave me in a lurch while we scramble around trying to find another starting QB.
I’m just sayin’….
by Tex-2010 on Jan 18, 2010 5:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Your "just sayin"
is incredibly douchy. Your whole team is filled with unlikable jerks. I’m probably in a minority in that I like Romo, but he may be the turnover machine next year that he is this year.
Oh Tex!
After witnessing the accuracy of the predictions from all your “cud chewin” brethren this last week. You make me feel pretty damn confident about our chances in New Orleans on Sunday.
Thanks
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
RE: Fishing next week
I think I’ll skip the fishing and watch Superbowl XXVII again.
You remember that one, right? It was the beginning of the Cowboys 90’s dynasty where they plastered the Bills 52-14.
But then again, I might watch something else. I have 5 to choose from.
When you guys lose next Sunday might I suggest you drown your sorrows by watching one of your old NFL championship games..oh wait, there aren’t any.
Oh well, you could always watch that Cowboy-Viking playoff game from 1975 where Staubach threw the Hail Mary and just pretend that never happened too.
Yeah, we’re sore losers! so what? >:-)
Tex
Actually Tex-2010...
there is an ‘NFL Championship’ trophy in the Vikings case.
You are an ill-informed, homer… and you give ‘regular’ Cowboys fans a bad rap.
Sorry that you are still stinging from your team’s loss yesterday.
We are going to enjoy our game against the Saints next week.
Both teams have been working toward this point all year… #1 and #2 in the NFC.
The teams will play next week and the better team will win, therefore representing the best the NFC has to offer in the Superbowl. Obviously, I hope it will be the Vikings – it will be nice to add another NFC Championship trophy to our case.
If the Saints win, well, then they earned their berth.
Take Care, Tex-2010.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 18, 2010 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
NFL Championship
Dude,
There is no “NFL Championship” trophy in the Vikings trophy case, unless they stole one from the Cowboys.
You have 4 NFC Chamionship trophies. It’s not the same thing.
Consider yourself informed ;-)
BUZZZZZZ! Wrong Answer.
try this link – it will require reading, though… but try.
look for the year of our Lord, 1969.
Maybe YOU will become informed. You’re welcome!
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 18, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
+1,000,000, AVF.
I love the way you held back the merger, until after he put his foot in his mouth.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
you're from texas....
you’ll find that when dealing with people from other states, you’ll be wrong quite often.
oh, and by the way?
-the ‘75 game was won due to flagrant pass interference by pearson.
-the “90s dynasty” wouldn’t have existed if it wasn’t for a rat bastard that i won’t mention by name who wanted to screw us over before jumping ship.
"You are freaking out. Man."
By the power of Allen's Mullet!
Haywood..
Don’t be a “Hail Mary” hater!
That was a legal play. You’ll just have to live with it like we have to live with that stupid “Catch” by Dwight (what else did I do in my career) Clark.
Tex....
how stupid are you? i mean, really? the THROW was legal, but pearson shoving the defender down is definitely NOT legal. do you even know what pass interference is? do you even know what a legal play is? from your statements i’d say apparently not…
"You are freaking out. Man."
By the power of Allen's Mullet!
Well..
As eluded to a few times on this blog, since I’m from Texas I obviously AM stupid.
I’m also stupid enough to know that the Vikings allowed the Cowboys to convert 2 long 4th down passes right before the Hail Mary throw.
What are the refs supposed to do? Throw a flag every time they got burned by a Cowboy receiver?
well....
first off it’s “alluded.”
second, pre-hail mary has nothing to do it, contact past 5 yds from the line of scrimmage is pass interference, and that includes pushing the defender down
"You are freaking out. Man."
By the power of Allen's Mullet!
On top of that...
we should point out to Tex, that the refs don’t need to worry about being burned by any receiver. But they should call pass a pass interference penalty, when the infraction is committed right in front of their noses.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
i like this
therefore, rec’d
I piss people off on a fairly regular basis. I cherish my right to speak my mind, whether I sound like an uneducated savage or not. I've never been accused of keeping what I think a secret, nor will I ever. Don't like it? I don't care.
by IABerserker1 on Jan 18, 2010 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I know, 1995/96…but it still gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.
Know what I mean?
No, I guess you don’t. Never mind.
Sad..
keep living in 95 . We’re still playing in 2010.
by Jepp The Viking on Jan 18, 2010 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
It's not Sad...
…no need to feel sorry for me. I’m good.
What’s sad is this;
You guys have a douche-bag coach and quarterback.
Furthermore, Favre’s not even a Viking. The only reason he’s still playing is to get back at the Packers. So you’re going to the NFC Championship game, congratulations! With Farve! lol
Be honest, it makes you a little sick to your stomach, doesn’t it?
Believe me, he could care less about your team or your city.
Ask him if he even knows who Bud Grant is….
Tex
Right...
I guess that jersey on his back doesn’t say Vikings on it does it? I guess he’s not really a part of the team when the FREAKING PLAYERS voted him captain huh? Dude just deal with your loss and leave. You are so annoying.
by Jepp The Viking on Jan 18, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
As a Cowboy Fan...
I can’t wait until that idiot Wade Phillips is gone, and he can take that knuckle-head Jason Garrett with him. Good riddance!
Now I find out he’s coming back next year!! :-(
Well Tex,
You should be thankful that Favre didn’t care about playing against the Cowboys. Just imagine the beat down they would have suffered if he actually cared about that game at all.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
Tex,
You originally stated that the all Favre cares about is beating the Packers. Now you state that all Favre cares about is beating the Cowboys and the Packers. Do you see the problem here?
This is what is called a contradiction. It means that your statements oppose each other. If one of them is true, the other cannot be. I would ask you which statement is false. But as you have already demonstrated, there would be no way to know if that that statement would be true or false,
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
lol
Tony and Wade give two shits about Dallas? Most people in Dallas don’t give two shits about Dallas. The second either of them isn’t under contract, they’ll move. Why would anyone stay there?
What a comeback
and for what its worth, I lived in Dallas. People live there for jobs. There is absolutely no reason outside of that to have a city there.
Good point!.
So living in Minneapolis is beats living in Dallas??
Let’s see, 2 months of summer and 10 months of freezing your balls off.
Have you guys up there ever seen a hot chick in a bikini?
(The Internet doesn’t count)