Thanks Brett
by lifelongvike on Jan 25, 2010 6:44 AM CST
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I have said before how I did not want a 40 year old QB leading my team. I was so wrong and have said so many times this year. I have been a Viking fan since the time Buffalo roamed the plains of Minnesota ( or was it Bison). Many ups and many downs.
Now I just want to say Thank You Brett.
Thanks for teaching the young receivers how to run routes and believe in their QB.
Thanks for reminding this fan what its like to be a fan of a top team
Thanks for helping form talented players into a team
Thanks for a great season.
You know Bret I had heard how tough a player you were but really I didn't expect you to put your health on the line after your leg got hurt. It would have been understandable you sitting on the bench.
Thanks for being Brett. I had a great season.
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I Just wanted to say
When Brett was hit and was picked up and helped off the field and then came back on again I saw a true hero, who gave his all for the team and for the Viking fans. I’ve got so much respect for that guy and for what he did, especially after watching him get absolutely annihilated like he did, get picked up like he was a rag doll and then come back on and try and win it all again.
I don’t care what anyone will say about who caused the loss and why we lost, that guy is a true hero in my eyes and I hope I will never forget watching a man rise to show such nobility and courage in the face of adversity and pain. I really hope that somehow he gets these messages and understands how he’s really shown at least some of us Viking fans what a true viking is like.
Thank you Brett for everythign you have done.
Thank you Brett for throwing that INT that cost us the game.
by multi-lakes on Jan 25, 2010 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Are you just forgetting all the fumbles then?
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -Earl Weaver
12 man huddle
And 5 turnovers
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jan 25, 2010 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
multi-lakes
guess you dont know that being a MAN and getting back in the game means more then winning. I think every Viking learned that last night. sure a loss hurts but its not whether you win or lose but if you can win or lose like a man
by VikesFan4Life on Jan 25, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
awww is dsludo having a bad day?
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Jan 25, 2010 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
fuck you, verno. assface
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by IABerserker1 on Jan 25, 2010 8:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You are one dumb SOB
Ok tell me. Who would you have quarterback’n for the Vikes this year. Be real. Who was available that you would have got’n. NO Frig’n body that could have taken the Vikes even in to the playoffs. What a frig’n girly boy! You wouldn’t know a class act if you fell in it face first! Pathetic. Geaux Vikes Geaux Brett
by saints-fan-in-miss on Jan 27, 2010 7:15 AM CST up reply actions
Reply fail?
I think he was replying to multilakes
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jan 27, 2010 7:06 PM CST up reply actions
It was to Multilakes
Remark “thanks for throwing that interception”
by saints-fan-in-miss on Jan 28, 2010 9:03 AM CST up reply actions
You can't just ignore
that he threw the INT. It makes you look like a Packers fan. They were really good at that for years, and now y’all do it too!
You can be mad at Brett for the INT while still acknowledging the fumbles and the penalty. Just because somebody puts some blame on Brent, that doesn’t mean they are ignoring the other problems in the game. It was a serious mistake, I don’t see how anybody can deny that. Why does everybody apologize for him? He makes so many horrible plays. We would have made the playoffs without him. It wouldn’t have been as pretty, but he is incapable of reeling it in when he has to. There is proof, and there has been for years. I say we go for Bulger, or at least look into it.
And what does being a MAN have to do with it? I thought we signed Favre for the purpose of WINNING? We didn’t sign him to teach NFL players how to be men, at least not directly. Sure he stayed in the game, but he also fell away from the rest of his throws, many of which came up short (thank you Berrian for bailing brett out a couple times…but not for fumbling). He also refused to run when he could have gotten HUGE yards and set up the field goal. For one minute, can you guys remember that despite all the other problems, Brett Favre, you savior and MAN of all men, had the game in his hands? Or least the chance to turn the game over the Longwell? seriously. just try it.
If your point is that Brett Favre made a mistake in this game, just like AD, Bernard, Percy, ben Leber. Asher Allen, Pat Williams, Brad Childress/other coaches … probably the large majority of the team, if you look closely enough at the film, then I think I can speak on behalf of the vast majority of those who have been here the entire season with this one word answer: duh
What is a revelation to me, is this concept that there has ever been any QB on any team in recent memory that does not throw any interceptions. If throwing one INT (or throwing 9 INTs in a > 4,700 yard, 18 game season) disqualifies a player from being a viable QB in the NFL, then … I think they need to just fold up this league, no team will be able to find anyone to play the marque position.
I say we go for Bulger, or at least look into it.
Wow. I literally cannot find the words to reply to that!
by puddnhead on Jan 28, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow
He is viable. Just not in nfc championships. Did I say that he wasn’t? I dont think I said that.
That was an unfathomable mistake! It’s not just that it was an INT, it was the situation, the decision. Sure, an INT is an INT…except when it is in a situation where the only throw should be absolutely safe. Instead he made a throw that would be stupid at any time in any game. Yes, he throws across his body sometimes…but go back and watch the times he did it in this year. the receivers were wiiiiide open. This time Rice was covered on all sides. Plus, we didn’t need 10 yards. Why does everybody forgive him for these horrendous mistakes? (Not to mention, if favres stats make that INT ok, then Peterson’s stats make his fumbles OK. Berrian had an amazing game, so I guess his fumble was OK, too.)
As for bulger… Well, I maintain that the Vikings don’t need an exceptional QB, they just need a competent QB. So while is was great to have an excellent year with Favre, they could easily get by with something less flashy and less pretty if they have to. Bulger has been a solid QB when surrounded by talent and when protected. I think it is a safe to say our skill position guys are very good, and overall our offensive line protects well enough (though you might not know it from watching last week). Bulger would likely come cheap, a lot cheaper than McNabb, who has the same post season issues as favre anyway. Plus, Brett will be 41. It is beyond unrealistic to expect another season like this, and if it is jsut going to end with an INT anyway, what is the point? so that people can jerk off to the wonderful ‘story’ that is brett favre? very lame. My larger point is that no player in american professional sports has been forgiven for more bone-headed, unforgivable plays that brett favre.
except when it is in a situation where the only throw should be absolutely safe
You do realize that if Favre just has an incompletion instead of an INT, it’s 4th and long and we are turning to Longwell to ask him to make the longest successful field goal conversion of his 13 year NFL career? Look up his career stats at NFL.com, I’m not making this up.
You make it sound like it really wasn’t a big deal whether we picked up yards on that play or not. But the situation called for more risk than you imply. In fact, it was that very “prevent offense” strategy that call for which got us into the predicament that led to the INT … Favre orchestrated a 50 yard drive in about one minute of clock to get just to the edge of FG range, and then we called two “safe” no-gain running plays to be extra careful, and we let the clock run down, we clearly let up on the gas. but the margin of error was so slight that, once we got the 5 yard penalty, it was gone, and we were forced into “do or die” to get that at least that 5 yards back in one play. And then … we died.
by puddnhead on Jan 28, 2010 1:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
As for bulger… Well, I maintain that the Vikings don’t need an exceptional QB, they just need a competent QB
It sounds like you advocate the “Jon Gruden” roster strategy for QB. Fill the roster with a gaggle of “mid tier” QBs (TJ, Sage, Bulger), and then try kissing each one & hope one turns into a prince? Or perhaps a Ravens/Rex Ryan approach: just hope your running game and D can get it done, without expecting too much of the QB.
It worked once in superbowl history (Trent Dilfer), but I’m not sure I’d want to count on lightening striking twice. I simply don’t think our D is that good, among other things.
what an idiot!
No one man lost this game for us.
If you saw the game then you’d know what a pounding Brett took and even after that terrible hit that was low and the non call he came back in to try to win the game.
It was one of the most exciting years I’ve ever had as a Vikes fan and it was in large part due to Brett and what he brought to the team.
He helped out Rice and Harvin greatly too.
Shank had a great year because of Brett. We may not get Brett back ,but his legacy will stay with us….thanks Brett.
you know what,
you need to GO AWAY. the only time you are ever here is when the vikes lose. go to hell, you ignorant prick piece of human waste.
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by IABerserker1 on Jan 25, 2010 7:58 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
bitter, pseudo Vikes fan...
that’s YOU, multi-lakes. cause anyone with half a brain recognizes that Brett helped this team be better, that the players learned from Brett (receivers, center), and that it takes a TEAM to win AND lose. i was a Packer fan for 43 years and followed Brett to the Jets and then to MN. i will remain a Vikes fan whether Brett comes back or retires.
you’re a moron, plain and simple.
Blame the Coaching staff
I would rather have a gutsy QB like Brett Favre any time any where. It was the coaching staff with the knuckle-headed 12 men in the huddle that put the offense in that position. Brett Favre made this season for every Viking fan and I pray that he has the physical moxie and mental attitude to come back for one more year. If not, it was a great season thanks to Brett.
Next year I am hoping the Viking ball carriers can stop fumbling.
No!
That was the great AD who doesn’t look to where his QB is on a simple one yard run hand off. He didn’t just fumble. he had no idea where he was. THAT cost us a 14 point swing.
AD should be benched if he thinks he can ignore his RB coach and do whatever he dang well pleases.
Gimme a break! AD’s fumbles cost more than the
td’s he got
by CitrusFLViking on Jan 28, 2010 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
YES
I totally agree. I am sure someone will get these messages to him. I loved this entire season and hope to see Brett come back next season and go all the way.
by Bruce Centerwall on Jan 25, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
Brett showed what QBs today do not do. That is play through the pain as a QB that is why he is the NFL Iron Man in any sport. I would like to see Cal Ripken Jr deal with that kind of punishment that NFL defense brings you.He kept up in game even after AD fumbles and mistakes. I was skeptical when he signed with the Vikes. At the end, I was so happy to see him in purple and gold. If Brett is not back next season, it was a wonderful year.
I was concerned as well--tough to see him get hit that much
I thought after he got his ankle rolled, he was done. That guy is one tough cookie for coming back.
"Skol Vikings! Let's win this game Skol Vikings!
So was mine...
Which of course, meant I was up even later.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
+1000
what a joy it was to watch favre lead us this season. yes, we fell one game short of where we wanted to be, but so did 29 other teams. i had always respected favre as a player even when he was a hated packer. the passion he puts into the game is unequalled. you could really see it in him this year with our beloved vikes. i pray that he comes back for one more year, and completes his HOF carreer with a superbowl victory.
GO VIKES!!!
by indianavikesfan on Jan 25, 2010 8:36 AM CST reply actions
Im going to Hell
Because I laughed out loud when I read that comment.
Ace Deuce- Tell me that is not the coolest nickname ever....... Okayyy maybe "Purple Moses" beats it. :)
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 25, 2010 5:22 PM CST up reply actions
go play in traffic. in muscatine iowa.
i’d gladly try and hit you. you are an abortion.
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by IABerserker1 on Jan 25, 2010 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
really?
defend the douche all you want; he deserves all the bashing he gets.
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by IABerserker1 on Jan 26, 2010 2:23 PM CST up reply actions
DITTO
He brought so much enjoyment and hope to me throughout this season, I could never thank him enough. He carried this team on his 40-year old shoulders all season and last nights performance was the guttiest performance I’ve ever seen and anybody who blames him for the loss last night is a complete short-sided idiot. If he doesn’t come back I wish him the best for all he did for this team and the fans. If he comes back, look out NFL!
"Skol Vikings! Let's win this game Skol Vikings!
Dallas Cowboy`s fan here with my comments
First of all I would like to say Wow what a great game but the better team won as they scored more points. Turnovers were a big part but they are part of the game, it`s too bad for Cowboy fans that we did n`t get the same sloppy Viking version that the Saints got but credit must be given to the Saints for causing those plays.
On to Brett Favre, I`ve always considered him over rated even when he was in his prime and for all the fan fare that he got he only won one Super Bowl with that great franchise the Green Bay Packers so when the Vikings went out and got a 40 yr old to bring them something they never got before I was doubtful but I got to give credit to Favre for trying because boy did he ever try. He took a beating against the Cowboys and that I`m sure did n`t help but the pounding the Saints put on him was unreal and Brett kept firing. Was he good enough? no but at 40 he gave it a good shot, for Viking fans I hope Tavaris has learned what it takes to play QB because Jackson has much more ability than Favre but has n`t learned how to tap into it. Maybe the acquisition of Favre indirectly gets the Vikings a SuperBowl victory someday so Viking fans hold your head up high and be proud of your Vikings effort as they did the best they could and someday it might pay off.
WTF???
Tavaris has more ability than Brett? Are you insane? Didn’t think it was possible, but I hate the Cowboys (and their fans) just a little bit more.
by WINTWINS2009 on Jan 25, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
I think he meant he is younger and has a strong arm. I didn't think he meant anything offensive by his comment.
Winning is not everything but it sure feels like it sometimes
by lifelongvike on Jan 25, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
We appreciate the message.
Even if your football opinions are a little, shall we say, unusual.
by Jepp The Viking on Jan 25, 2010 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
Not all!
He probably thinks Favre pulled out a last second victory last night. There’s no room for anything else what passes for ‘reality’ in his mind.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
that comment made me laugh. I guess I figured you guys all embraced Mr. Revenge in here…maybe not so much??
CAN"T HIT A QB LOW!!!!!!!!!!
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
Devasted and Confused
I love Brett Favre as an athlete for than any in history. He has it all: huge faults, amazing ability and unmatched toughness. He took the shots and kept going. My goodness. He is a freak nature. But why, why the hell do you throw cross field in that situation? Also, why is the sky blue.
because that`s who he is
gun slinger mentality he`ll make some throws that he gets away with and some that he won`t…it`s the ones that won`t that bites you, also the reason he`s only won 1 Super Bowl Or is it 2? at any rate the older he gets the less chance there is that he can deliver, he played great for a 40 yr old QB but not great for a QB.
I have no idea what your talking about
I believe his stats show that he played great as a QB. This guy brought us back with a chance to win with 2 minutes to go. Overcame many fumbles. Kept the team together.
Not Farve’s fault that 12 men were in a huddle.
He played great.
Winning is not everything but it sure feels like it sometimes
by lifelongvike on Jan 25, 2010 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
Favre did an excellent job for this team. Period.
I would rather be IN the Arena than watching from the stands...That is my life!
* Read Teddy Roosevelt's "Man in the Arena" if you need further explanation...
by vikingfanfrom afar on Jan 25, 2010 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
again
mr. illiterate football fan – his stats are top 2 to 5 in the league across the board. Why do you bother to post you nonsense?
you guys are all delusional
You want stats? how about all the playoff games in which brett favre has choked. It cuts both ways, those stats, and the results of those games. Whether the loss was his fault or not his fault (it wasn’t his fault) that play was yet another great all time choke. He is not the greatest QB of all time. There are too many other super bowl winners and guys with great stats that did not have these kind of massive screw ups.
Here's my take...
Brett wanted to get 10,15,20 yards on that play and hand it over to his buddy, Ryan Longwell, to be the hero.
He could have run it and got the 5 yards back from that penalty, maybe 10…
I think he saw Rice in the middle and thought it was meant to be… the ball came out without it’s usual zing.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 25, 2010 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
Bingo
I watched it more than once, he was focused on hitting Rice but the arm couldn’t do it.
He had just taken that nasty hit, landing on his arm and thought he could return and throw alright. And he did, with normal arm-motion throws.
I think the ‘conventional wisdom’ about the cross-body was right, but for the wrong reason. Favre’s been slinging it for too many years to not know that it’s a tough throw AND to know that, under normal conditions, he could do it. I think the arm was hurt and it didn’t have the strength he thought it did, at that angle. He was probably just fine with a normal throw which is why he figured he could come back in, but on the cross-body throw, the stress is different. I think he found the pain point and the ball didn’t come out the way he wanted it to.
Sure, he could have run.. should have run. And probably would have, if he had realized where the hurt was going to limit him. It came down to a judgement call and he made the wrong choice. No point in crucifying him over it, he doesn’t make wrong choices very often. Stuff happens, and he was phenomenal at protecting the ball all year long, AND even in this game. I don’t blame Favre.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
My take on the pick
Brett was running to his right saw Rice who looked open. Porter was farther to the left out of Favre’s vision and closing. The rest is history. Classic no-no. This is a mistake made by every QB who ever threw a football. Consider that Favre had been get’n his brains beat out all night with out let up. He was literaly beat from head to toe. What hit 16 times. Damn! We aint talking shoved to the ground we are talking man slammed. He was doing the best he could and should never been in that situation to begin with. Not once did he lose his cool. Sling his helmet, yell at his line nothing but pick his azz up and keep going. In my book he is the man! Hope you Vikes are lucky enough to get him back. Good luck Vikes and Good luck Brett.
by saints-fan-in-miss on Jan 27, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
Well......
Let me see…..it’s all atmospheric conditions.
by Bruce Centerwall on Jan 25, 2010 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
Wow, how many new names did you create for this troll run?
I count two so far.
Nice to see that we mean that much to you :).
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
Exhaustion
Haven’t you ever been completely exhausted? When that happens you are too tired to think and you let instinct take over. That’s what Favre has always done….until 2009….when he played an entire season thinking first. Unfortunately due to poor pass blocking, poor coaching (at the end) and Peterson fumbling we got ourselves in a position where our exhausted QB had to make a play. It sucks, but we didn’t lose because of Brett.
by WINTWINS2009 on Jan 25, 2010 11:24 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
BOOM ! Exactly!
Damn he had his brains beat out all night and still was throwing bullets! Turn overs and terrible coaching [ not keeping anyone in to help protect Brett ] lost that game. He did all and more anyone could have asked! If he doesn’t come back lets see what all the Brett bashers have to say about the replacement. Geaux Vikes
by saints-fan-in-miss on Jan 27, 2010 7:26 AM CST up reply actions
Not a Viking fan here....
….I’m a Lion fan, so as bad as you guys feel today, believe me, it can be worse,
Sorry, but I find Favre a waffling, self-centered, diva. No doubt he belongs in the hall of fame, but I couldn’t have enjoyed the way the game ended any more, unless that interception was taken for a pick six.
You Viking fans are true, dedicated, and loyal, but a lot of the country feels like I do and they are rejoicing in Favres misery this morning. His legacy will be many things, but that last pass will alwys be at the forefront.
by Wayne Comer on Jan 25, 2010 11:47 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Life long Saints fan here. I'll take the win
But Anyone who wants to bash Favre has no frig’n clue what a great QB looks like.
by saints-fan-in-miss on Jan 27, 2010 7:30 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
+1
When Favre throws interceptions, he is a gunslinger. No one ever called the greatest QB in hisotory a gunslinger. Montana was just a great QB, but not one to throw miserable ints. No one ever called the 2nd greatest QB in NFL history, Peyton Manning, a gunslinger. Maybe in 2 weeks they will , I hope.
"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking
Favre has a history of throwing back breaking INT’s in the playoffs. This guy just keeps doing it over and over. You won’t see Manning doing that.
Let the Saints beat the snot out of Manning
If the Saints do to Manning what they did to Brett he will be screaming at his line, slamming his helmet on the side lines. When pressured Manning looked very human. Farve took a terrible beat’n and just picked his azz up and kept on throwing bullets. Now toss in all the turn overs and lets see if Manning handles it like Favre did. I bet not ! Will this happen in the SB. Probably not as the Colts coaches would never feed their QB to the wolves the way I believe Childress and company did. They will do what ever they have to do to protect him.
by saints-fan-in-miss on Jan 28, 2010 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
FAVRE UNDER PRESSURE
IN GREEN BAY, WE HAD A GUY NAMED BART STARR WHO NEVER MADE MISTAKES IN THE BIG GAMES, AND IF HE HAD BEEN THE GUY IN THE 90’S INSTEAD OF FAVRE, MORE THAT ONE LOMBARDI TROPHY GETS WON BY THAT TEAM. CHECK OUT FAVRE’S PLAYOFF HISTORY FOR ONLY ABOUT THE LAST 12 YEARS AND YOU WILL FIND A HUGE NUMBER OF INTERCEPTS, AND NONE WORSE THAT IN OT…HE IS NOTHING WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE IN THE PLAYOFFS, AND THERE SURELY SHOULD HAVE BEEN NO OT IN THE GAME LAST NIGHT
Turn off the caps lock
Idiot
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jan 25, 2010 12:28 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
hey want to come over and watch a sweet video?
I’ve got this awesome video of Aaron Rodgers kicking a ball right to a guy in a red jersey, and it goes for a touchdown in overtime! Seriously, it’s sweet!
I`m sorry
but I have a hard time figuring how Viking fan`s can embrace a ex Packer QB past his best who only managed 1 SuperBowl win at his best, that being said he played 10 times better than I could have imagined but even playing that good he was still not good enough to get the job done but I agree he had lot`s of help in fumbling the game away.
Because....
Because he has a lot of class, and never fails to talk to his opposite number after the game, to offer congratulations if they won or encouragement if they lost. :)
Because he threw a pass 20 yards down field, then hustled in to throw a block for said same WR. :)
Because he wasn’t the sole cause of the loss to the Saints :)
Because he stated that the Vikings are the best team he’s ever been on :)
Because he brings fun back into the game with his attitude :)
Because 2009, as a Minnesota Viking, was his best, highest rated season in his career :)
Because he walked away from the Packers :)
Because you Packers fans hate him :)
But perhaps, most of all… because now, he’s OURS. And by definition, that means… NOT YOURS. :)
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Jan 25, 2010 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Im not a Packer fan
Proud Cowboy`s fan here and if my team would sign yuck McNabb I would switch teams in a hurry…LIONS BROWNS any team. Just can`t understand why there was n`t a revolt when they started talking Favre?
why not like him?
Because he`s not a class act, ask the Packers who know him much better than the Vikes.
Because he`s a cry baby
Because his actions can hurt the team, yesterday he was hobbled could n`t run to get them in field goal range and could n`t get enough zip with his injured leg and throws a pick…maybe Tavaris runs for that first down or gets them in range mayb the Vikes would be heading back to the SuperBowl.
brings fun? I had fun watching the game can`t argue with you there.
Vikings best team he`s been on well put that on your mantle.
your right there were plenty of culprits in the loss.
Both Barrels
I’m used to the Packers fans coming in to troll and whine here, I should have check to verify that you were a Cow fan. That makes all the difference in the world….
As for pride… did you switch teams when T.O. came to town?
Did you switch teams when former Cow Michael Irvin was indicted for cocaine possession? How about when it came out that he was caught by the cops snorting cocaine off a strippers breast?
Did you switch teams when former Cow Eugene Lockhart was indicted for a fraud scheme?
Did you switch teams when former Cow Ryan Leaf was indicted for drugs?
Did you switch teams when former Cow, Plaxico Burress, was indicted for a felony gun possession?
Did you switch teams when the Cows picked up Pacman Jones?
Did you switch teams when former Cow, Hollywood Henderson, admitted to sexually assaulting a minor paraplegic in a wheelchair while he was high on cocaine? How about when he was arrested for smoking crack with two underage girls?
Did you switch teams when former Cow, Rafael Septien, was indicted on having sex with a 10 year old girl?
Did you switch teams when former Cow, Dwayne Goodrich was indicted for manslaughter after slamming his BMW into innocent bystanders at 110mph?
Did you switch teams when former Cow, Larry Bethea, was convicted of stealing $64,000 from his own mother?
Did you switch teams when former Cow, Dexter Clinkscale, was arrested for molesting an 18 year old boy?
Did you switch teams when former Cow, Harvey Martin, was arrested for serial woman beating and cocaine use?
Did you switch teams when former Cow, Bob Hayes, was convicted for being a crack dealer?
Did you switch teams when former Cow, Lance Rentzel was arrested for exposing himself to a 10 year old girl?
America’s Team? Sure….
Hmm, seems none of those things offends your sensibilities nearly as much as the thought of having McNabb as your QB; you’re still a ‘proud Cow fan’. Interesting set of sensibilities you got there.
Now I’m not claiming that the Vikings have been a bunch of angels, but then, I’m not suggesting pride would motivate me to switch teams if someone who offended my sensibilities came to town, either. Unlike most Cow fans, I stick with my team instead of hopping on and off the bandwagon depending on how the team does each year.
Of course, the Vikings aren’t ‘Americas Team’…. But, Oh! Neither are the Cows anymore! Last night, I heard Jerry Jones pass that title on to the New Orleans Saints.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
by DCPurple on Jan 25, 2010 1:51 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
answer no
hated the pacman pickup and liked the TO pick up though I still like TO I`m glad he`s gone but if McNabb ever signs with the Boys I`m out of there. I would have thought Favre joining the Vikings from the Packers would be along the same lines but I must be wrong.
Not to pick nits, but....
Plaxico Burress was never a Cowboy.
Other than that, carry on.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jan 25, 2010 11:16 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not one to defend a Cowboys fan, but...
Ryan Leaf was a Cowboy for like 4 games…I don’t think he really would impact someone’s likelihood of cheering for a team.
Because the game is about a team, not just one person.
Just because that one person was brought to a team that was a division rival and played some good games for them does not mean there is something wrong with him.
I mean, it’s not like he was a former Al Qaeda leader that we kidnapped and made our leader. It’s football, not war.
by Bjorno on Jan 25, 2010 12:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Ziggy
Do you really think any QB past or pressent could have over come all the screw ups in that game and even made it to OT ? Me. I think not. Vikes got more than their moneys worth.
by saints-fan-in-miss on Jan 27, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
I welcome Brett back next year.
Look, we all knew going into this that Favre was a guy who would force things at times. We embraced that notion, knowing full well that it could bite us in the ass at some point.
That is who he is, that is what makes him good.
It is the COACHES job to make sure that he is put in a position where he does not have to force a throw like he did in that game. Yea he should have just run and picked up the 5-7 yards, but that is not Brett.
He NEVER should have been put in that position in the first place.
Why, after marching down the field on the Saints using all of the plays in our disposal, did we all of a sudden go back to playing “Chillyball” on the most crucial 4 downs of the game? Run, run then pass? 12 men in the huddle? These are all coaching blunders.
Longwell is money from 50 yards, I’ll take that kick for a chance to win ANYDAY.
On third down we should have lined up for the field goal so we had another shot if there was a bad snap, NOT call a pass play!
I am so glad we agreed to another three years of Brad Childress.
Brett next yr?
I`d be surprised if he comes back he took a beating, of course there will be about a half dozen press conferences to say he has n`t made up his mind.
Won't bug me
The man is an icon, we have no one coming behind him. Doesn’t matter to me, hell I hope he has a great time in ol mis.
You are completely correct Bjorno
Or we could have ran a screen . Something with solid chance of getting 5 yards and VERY little chance of providing a turn over (unless your playing pit) But I think the worst thing is Farve didn’t need to get that yardage. I would have had longwell try the kick long before I woud have thought that throw was a good idea.
I find it ironic
that out of all the turnover’s everyone is pointing to the late INT. That INT didn’t lose the game, that caused OT. All those turnover’s hurt equally. What killed us was 12 man in the huddle. That was unacceptable. But Longwell could have missed that 50+ yarder and we would have been in OT anyway. This was a team fail. Top to bottom.
by dsludo on Jan 25, 2010 1:03 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
+1
Winning is not everything but it sure feels like it sometimes
by lifelongvike on Jan 25, 2010 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
well
you guys overcame all of the previous mistakes and had the chance to go for the win with a simple 5-10 yard pickup to set up Longwell, Favre had that opportunity and blew it. All of the other TO’s were huge, no doubt, but none of those TO’s took away a chance to win the game. Luckily for you you have a bunch of TO’s to pick which one was the one that cost you the game. So you’ve got that going for you.
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
Let's see.
A broken down Favre that probably can’t walk under his own power today. Gets basically knocked out of the game 3 times, and still doesn’t miss a single play.
Or a douche bag goof ball of a qb named Aaron Rodgers that once he fumbled the ball, conveniently kicked the ball high enough so that an Arizona defender could just jog into the end zone to win the game.
Choke award goes to Aaron Rodgers hands down.
Let's see indeed
Never said anything about the guys toughness. And he played incredible for a majority of the game. That pass to Rice earlier on that last drive was flat out unreal. But if he was unable to run 5 yards because his ankle hurt then why was he out there?
And you’re right about Rodgers (I know, probably something you’ve never heard before in your life, so I’ll repeat it, “you’re right”), he clearly intentionally kicked the ball into the air so that the defender could end the game easier. That makes perfect sense.
The difference here is that the Packers didn’t take an aging superstar QB to lead them to a Super Bowl win at the sacrifice of their future. The Vikings did. They bet everything they had on Lord Favre leading them to their first ever Super Bowl win…and he came up short. The Packers had enough of the “let’s win one for Brett” thing and focused on ensuring that their future was intact. The Vikings were desperate and now have to live with the results.
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
Tell me verno
Exactly who could the Vikes have gotten last year that could have possibly done what Favre did this year? There is a bit of a timeline/deadline on this team, as Favre isn’t the only one starting to get up in career years. Two years could be too long to get a qb clicking like Favre did from day one.
Jeff Garcia
Coupled with Childress not abandoning AP for most of the season
Alright
I’ll take your reply though I asked someone else: Garcia…
In 7 seasons – only started 116 games? Only 3 of 7 years did he start all 16 games. How often was he not the starter, or was he injured? Neither are good answers. Garcia had 2 seasons of 10 wins or more – ‘01-’02. 8-5 was his best since. Could he even possibly do what Favre did this year? Not on your life.
Next up – AP abandoned? He ran for less per carry than his norm almost all year. Line did a better job pass blocking than run blocking – not his fault, still got 1300+, very respectable – abandonded, hardly. Nonetheless, he didn’t produce what would leave Favre in game manager mode. Once Favre was needed to move the ball (see game 3 vs. SF) he did it. He was so much more consistent than AP all year long, only a fool would go to back getting 3 yards a carry when your qb is top 2-4 in rating all year long and #1 in TD/INT ratio.
So, honestly danwood, I can’t see where you’re coming from at all.
Favre didn’t run 5 yards all year, and it didn’t stop us from being one game from the Super Bowl… if you are counting on your QB scrambling for 5 yards to get to the Super Bowl, it’s going to be a long time coming.
Haha typical. Rodgers led us to 35 2nd half points, and almost got us a win in a game where our defense stopped the Cardinals offense 2 out of their 7+ possessions.
by packallday555 on Jan 26, 2010 12:10 AM CST up reply actions
almost? but he choked.
All you younger generation packers fans are so unbelievably obsessed with Aaron Rodgers like he’s your savior from the heavens. It’s such a joke. The guy hasn’t proved a single thing other than choking in the playoffs when it counts the most.
About the same as your team will in two weeks
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
We lost. But in all fairness, we didn’t expect our team to do much in the playoffs. We weren’t built to make a deep playoff run, you guys were.
by packallday555 on Jan 26, 2010 12:32 AM CST up reply actions
haha what bull shit slackallday555
you were in here spewing your trollself before your playoff game talking about how the packers were the best thing since sliced bread. All the media hype got to your head. And now all of a sudden you weren’t expecting to do much.
I even asked you…if you seriously saw yourself as a credible threat in the playoffs, and you know what you said.
Yeah, I told you that I, like many other Packers fans thought we had a good chance of beating the Cardinals, and didn’t say anything more past that.
It wasn’t ever the media getting to our hands, it was just the simple fact that our we had the offense to keep up with any team in the league. Our defense was really up and down this year, look alright against some good offenses and then horrendous at other times.
by packallday555 on Jan 26, 2010 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
packallday
please, i think you’re better than these other guys. don’t start posting things out of a vindictive desire to try to make others feel worse, when you really don’t believe what you’re saying..
You work to be a top ten troll
but you’re still a mile off.
you guys overcame all of the previous mistakes
How’s that? By not scoring twice in the redzone because of fumbles?
none of those TO’s took away a chance to win the game
You’re rediculous – again, not scoring points that put you ahead in the game is a chance to win!!
And if you took any notice, it was Favre by and large, bringing the team back from it’s mistakes. You never give him any credit for what he’s done all season long, only credit for a mistake. And that mistake never happens with points from the two redzone turnovers, troll
You know what he is saying. Of course TOs inside the 10 yard line kill a team but despite not converting on those opportunities the Vikings still had a shot at a 55 yard FG to win the game. Is that a sure thing for Longwell? Of course not, but you can’t tell me you didn’t at least want to see Longwell attempt that FG.
And it’s probably inevitable that you guys are going to bring it up, so let’s just get it over with. We went through the same situation against the Cardinals. Despite, our defense putting up one of the worst defensive performances I’ve ever seen, we still had a chance to win it and Rodgers fumbled the ball, which resulted in a loss. The play was pretty fluky :) but regardless it still happened.
I don’t think the loss was Favre’s fault just like I don’t think our loss was Rodger’s fault. But some of you seem to be trying to justify the mistake he made, and seem to be trying to make it seem like it wasn’t all that big of a deal, when really, it was. I want to repeat, I don’t think the loss was on Favre but I do think he made a crucial mistake.
by packallday555 on Jan 26, 2010 12:45 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
of course it was a crucial mistake
just like the other million fumbles and the 12 man in the huddle. We sure as shit don’t need some packer douche to come in here and tell us what we already know.
"not a sure thing"
this qualifies as understatement of the year. If Longwell hits that 55 yarder, it would be the longest of his entire 13 year career (and as you know, he’s kicked a LOT of field goals, being Packer’s all time leading scorer & all).
The situation we were put in by the stupid penalty was that Favre knew he needed to get at least a few yards, he could not just throw it away. If that really was within FG distance already, they would have just run it — like the previous two plays.
The decision to throw to Rice sucked. But you are blowing WAY out of proportion the impact of it. If it’s incomplete instead of intercepted, it is fairly high probability that nothing changes — game goes into OT after Longwell (probably) misses a 55.5 yard FG. The final INT was actually fairly far down the list of things that killed us. Take one of those higher things off & Favre isn’t even throwing passes in that final minute.
The final INT was actually fairly far down the list of things that killed us. Take one of those higher things off & Favre isn’t even throwing passes in that final minute.
And with this I agree. I pointed out many times in my post above that I don’t think the loss is on Favre. Hell, if you guys didn’t have the 12 men in the huddle penalty, Favre probably never attempts a pass, and Longwell probably makes a 50 yard FG for the win. Personally, I think what really did you in was the Harvin fumble. The Saints didn’t do squat on your defense the whole second half aside from their first possession, and they barely even managed to score from the 8 yard line.
I just see too many people trying to make it seem like Favre’s INT wasn’t really that big of a deal, which just isn’t the case.
by packallday555 on Jan 27, 2010 12:50 AM CST up reply actions
We were out of field goal range on 3rd down. Favres options on that play:
1) take a sack and go further out of FG range
2) run for some yards on a scramble – with a nearly broken ankle at age 40 while being 6 yards behind the line… meaning a 10 yard run to gain 4 yards, risking another cheap shot from the Saints
3) throw the ball away and gain nothing, but it would be 4th down and need to convert a 1st down to try a FG, but possibly not enough game time for 2 plays anyway
4) try to make a pass play to gain yards
Favre didn’t lose the game. Kicking one FG from the 5 yard line instead of fumbling either of those times would have won the game for us… so it seems much more damaging that we gave the ball away when we had guaranteed points on 2 drives.
C’mon man. By no means were the Vikings out of FG range. The FG would have been a 55 yarder (that’s what I heard Buck and Aikman say). Longwell’s career long is 55. Longwell is also a perfect 8 of 8 on his last 8 50+ yard FG attempts. I can understand trying to attempt a pass to get some more yards. Childress really should have called a run play out of a 3 WR set though. You guys were by far most successful on offense when operating out of the spread formation this year, and the chances of AP getting at least 2-4 yards are pretty darn good.
But Childress called a passing play, and despite having Berrian wide open for a 3-4 yard gain Favre tried to force a throw acrossed his body, which is the cardinal sin for a Qb. Favre made a poor decision, and costed you guys at least an attempt from Longwell to win the game.
by packallday555 on Jan 26, 2010 12:26 AM CST up reply actions
yeah I have to agree with this
the Vikes quickly moved the ball in position for a 51 yarder with plenty of time to remain calm, on first down run for no gain, 2nd down run for no gain 3rd down penalty now 56 yd fg range and panic sets in when there was no need to have panic, on first down Shiancoe down the middle was money all day. why Chill was gonna try to win the game on the last play with a 50yd plus is beyond me when they could have maneuvered for a more makeable 30-35 yd range.
by ziggy19 on Jan 26, 2010 9:50 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
its ridiculous
if Favre doesnt throw the INT and the Vikings try a FG there, it would be like a 58 yard FG. If it’s blocked (which is a huge possibility), we give up a TD and we don’t even get to overtime. Yet everyone blames Favre. People just do not understand football, I think.
What!? I don’t know for sure and am not going to research it, but FG’s probably get blocked less 15% of the time in the NFL. If you honestly think there was a “huge chance” of the FG getting blocked I don’t think you understand football.
by packallday555 on Jan 26, 2010 12:29 AM CST up reply actions
you should go back and research the success of FGs that are 55 yards or longer. the success rate is not 85%. my point was about how far away they were.
Now your changing up what you originally said. You said in your original post that a 55 yard FG has a “huge possibilty” of getting blocked. I guess you should tell me what your definition of “huge possibilty” is. You also say if it’s blocked, we give up a TD, which is absolutely not a sure thing like you seem to be implying. I bet the rate of FGs getting blocked from a distance 55 yards or longer is no more then 30%. Of course I don’t know for sure, but seeing as how there are probably only 10-30 FG’s that get blocked every year out of around 900 attempts I just have a hard time seeing it be a “huge possibility”.
by packallday555 on Jan 26, 2010 12:55 AM CST up reply actions
well, i said 58… if they tried a FG from where the ball was spotted before the interception, it was at the 38. So it would have actually been a 55 yard attempt. I think Longwell could have made it, and I think there is enough of a difference between 55 and 58 that you are correct somewhat, but my point was that 55 is a pretty damn tough field goal, and Favre was trying to give it a better shot. I am making these numbers up as a guess, but a 55 yard field goal probably has a 20% chance of getting blocked and a 20% chance of him just missing it. So you have at best a 60% chance of making it. Obviously you want to try it, and of course I regret that we didn’t take a shot at a FG instead of going to overtime, but I can’t blame Favre for trying to make a play to give us a more legit chance at the field goal. Most guys only have to hit a 55 yard or further maybe once in their career. It’s not the ideal spot to put your kicker in. It was just a difficult spot to put a lot of risk in when you still know you can play for overtime.
You say there are 10-30 to be blocked out of every 900 or so, but there are probably the same amount that are 55 or longer.. they rarely happen. It is true that FGs are rarely blocked but my point was based on the fact that the further the kick is, the lower the kicker has to drive the ball to give it the distance, so the trajectory is more likely to go through the area of the line’s hands in the air.
But, like I said, wish there had been an attempt even if it was 55 or longer.
How about this then…lets NOT make proposterous statements like that and then say the OTHER people don’t know much about football. The facts are that FGs are RARELY block…regardless of distance. The likelihood of Longwell making a 58 yarder is small…LOTS of pressure and adrenaline going on might make him more likely to kill the ball but even more likely to shank it. The decision to pass was likely the coaches and its likely the result of the 12 man in the huddle penalty. You coach was clearly ready to run it up the gut again and kick a 50 yarder. a 55 or 58 yarder is a VERY high risk kick…that is why they threw. BUT it was still a TERRIBLE, REGRETABLE throw. Favre deserves some of the blame…all of it? no…but most certainly some of it…it was a TERRIBLE throw.
sure, he shouldn’t have thrown an interception. nobody ever should…
i dont understand all this enmity for saying a extrordinarily long field goal has a high chance of being blocked… it is a well known fact, the ball has to travel a lower trajectory in order to have the distance. i don’t know why anyone is grousing about me saying a longer field goal is harder. is a longer field goal easier than a shorter one? give me a break.
i don’t know why anyone is grousing about me saying a longer field goal is harder.
This isn’t what you said though…Regardless, your response above TrevorR’s to me was a good one, and I understand where your coming from.
by packallday555 on Jan 26, 2010 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, but...
When you look at it like that, then the whole Brett Favre will sink the Vikings chances meme doesn’t get play. And you know Packer fans would trade 100 years of success to see Favre throw just one more interception when it counts.
Longwell could have missed that FG but he had been 8-8 on his last 50+ yard FG attempts. Sure, there were a million other TOs in the game but despite all of those you still had a chance to win the game. Without a doubt all the other TOs had a large effect on the game but you can’t honestly tell me that you didn’t want to see the best FG kicker in the league at least attempt to kick a game winner.
by packallday555 on Jan 26, 2010 12:05 AM CST up reply actions
What I just posted is trolling? What about that is trolling?
by packallday555 on Jan 26, 2010 12:30 AM CST up reply actions
Not that particular post, but all the other jabs and not just you...
all these other haters coming on here with their smart remarks. This was a post thanking Brett for the great season he gave us, and low and behold, we have all these trolls chiming in like if they have something to say but the only thing spewing out of their mouths is their ignorance.
You can thank zerkalo
if he didn’t make his ridiculous statement about how a FG getting blocked is a huge possibility, none of that happens. NONE of those comments were trolling…you need to look up what trolling is.
Well I didn’t come over here to make smart remarks or to try and “troll”.
As for one of your threads turning into a “spew of ignorance” this is something we experienced ALL year over at APC. After every loss, some Vikings fans felt the need to come over and tell us “if we still had Favre we would have won that game”. Every single one of our threads turned into a big debate session with Vikings fans who felt like they needed to tell us that we weren’t “true Packer fans” or this or that dealing with Favre.
I get what your saying and understand where your coming from. You come on these blogs to talk about topics regarding your team, and when they get flooded with guys who feel the need to be dicks it isn’t cool. Normally I would say I feel bad for you guys but with how some of the members of this blog acted on our blog, you guys had it coming. A prime example is dsludo. He exemplifies what a douchebag is. So many times he came over to talk shit on our blog after losses, and actually came on our game thread after our loss to the Cardinals to make fun of his. He also told the people in that game thread that they can come over to DN if the Vikings lose to talk shit. It’s because of people like him that some Packer’s fans are over here making smart remarks to you guys.
Not that, that justifies other teams fans coming over here talking shit. Just thought I’d fill you in on why it might be happening.
by packallday555 on Jan 26, 2010 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Gosh. You might be worse then R4F. Logically arguing back must be beyond you? Seems like anytime someone challenges you, you turn to some form of trying to insult them.
by packallday555 on Jan 26, 2010 9:00 PM CST up reply actions
packallday
I usually defend your right to post here, but I’m having a hard time continuing to.
Now it’s now gotten to the point that, in this post, you’re reduced to saying “maybe I’m doing wrong, but two wrongs make a right!” I thought you were better than that. Did I think wrong?
I recognize that’s essentially what I’m doing, and I hint at that in my post above. It’s just hard to have sympathy for one of your threads being turned into a chest beating fest simply because that’s what so many of ours turned into on APC because of a few Vikings fans coming over there to stir the pot. You were over there a fair amount, and I hope you understand what I’m saying because many times you took part in the Favre arguments (not in a trollish or negative way).
A few of the Vikings fans dished it out to us over on APC, and in return they should be able to take it from some Packers fans as well. I know this last sentence is a prime example of two wrongs don’t make a right like you said but the reality is many people don’t carry that out. Packers fans coming over here and making smart remarks isn’t fair to the majority of the people on this site, as there was only a select few who felt the need to do the same to us at APC. And in that same respect, the majority of us didn’t deserve that over at APC.
by packallday555 on Jan 27, 2010 12:58 AM CST up reply actions
I don’t think he’s saying two wrongs make a right. ITs probably not right but either was ruining ones experience for MONTHS in the beginning. Now some are coming back for a week and you are whining already. When it gets to a month give me a call.
I am trying hard to NOT do that but I’ll chime in from time to time. If you want to see how bad it was, go back and look at some of the threads from back at the beginning of the season. Literally EVERY single article was hijacked and turned into a Favre thread. I am sure a lot of people stopped coming to the site because they were sick of it.
This is exactly what I’m trying to point out. It got to the point where our threads usually didn’t even consist of conversations regarding our current Packers team. Are we at fault for that to a degree too? Yes, we definitely are but I have a feeling that many of those threads wouldn’t have turned into a big debate had we not been provoked.
by packallday555 on Jan 27, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
12th man in the huddle was the nail.
I have yet to hear Childress address that. No, he is good with just let’n Brett take the heat . I promise you Sean Payton would never do that to Brees.
by saints-fan-in-miss on Jan 27, 2010 7:48 AM CST up reply actions
He accepted the blame for it
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Jan 27, 2010 8:20 AM CST up reply actions
Rec
Brett Favre single handedly made me a Vikings fan this year. I follow the Chiefs and I always gravitated towards watching the Vikings games because of my unnatural Jared Allen manlove. I watched all 18 games you played this year and you have such a special team and I just pray Favre heals up and comes back next year for another run. With a good draft, there is no reason why this team won’t dominate the NFC North again and go on another playoff run. I’d hire Tiki Barber to be your RB coach (I’m only partially kidding), deal with the fumbles because I firmly believe the best team did not win yesterday.
I don’t understand Favre haters. I can understand being tired of the media love fest he gets (even I roll my eyes sometimes) but to watch the way he played this year, and still hate him, I just don’t understand.
Ohhh Brett...One more year! One more year! One more year!
Superbowl Prediction - Colts 41 Saints 23
by craig in calgary on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Yeah neither do I Craig
he’s good at something that gets national attention the media are whores. Yes it sucks hearing about him non stop but if you want to blame someone blame the sheep who watch ESPN, or read SI just hoping they see a bit of Favre man love..
welcome aboard not trying to steal another teams fan but your always welcome here. R4F is on the right he’ll be your tour guide :D
I think you have a great point
I never liked Tiki Barber but I’ve been thinking about that all season. AP is having a similar experience, and Tiki totally rejuvenated his career by fixing his fumble issues. I remember Madden back in like 2000 showing how Tiki fixed it by holding the ball up and altering how his arm cradles the ball. AP talked about how he needs to hold the ball up in his comments since the game yesterday. I think he should learn from whatever helped Tiki, it obviously worked for him and AP’s situation is the same.
Ahman Green had the same problem. I don’t remember what the packers did, they brought someone in to work with him, but it worked. AP seems to be a little too proud for that so far (from the interviews I saw earlier this year) but maybe this game will make him realize how serious an issue it is. He needs technique though, he runs with the ball all over the place. The ball should be tucked tight up by his chest…we’ll see what happens now but if the Vikes don’t address this they could ruin what could be an amazing career for this kid.
Hey Craig...
… why won’t you Canadian jerks let American olympic athletes have the same amount of practice time on your venues that the Americans gave Canadians in Salt Lake?
Tool.
(This comment was tongue in cheek, brought on by the bile spewed in this thread. I love Canada.)
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jan 25, 2010 11:20 PM CST up reply actions
It's Come To This: I Hope Favre Comes Back
Two years ago, I sat in a hotel bar in Lansing, MI, laughing my butt off as Brett Favre finished what we thought was the last game of his career by killing his team with a huge INT in the NFC title game. Life was good.
Last summer, I was one of the Viking fans who opposed bringing Favre on board in Minnesota. I will now say what I never came out and admitted on the DN during the season: I was wrong…even if I did say a bit about Favre’s tendency to throw dumb INTs at the worst possible time. (Sorry, but I had to get that in there.)
Last night, seeing Brett Favre finish what might be the last game of his career by killing his team with a huge INT in the NFC title game wasn’t nearly as funny as it was two years ago. Cruel fate, how you mock me.
After the game, in a haze of Grain Belt and anger, I lashed out at Favre (and Childress, and AD).
Now, with twenty-four hours to think about it, I hope Favre comes back next fall. This Vikings squad may have one more year to make a push for the Super Bowl, and in spite of last night’s INT Favre represents the best available option at QB to get the Vikings there. Favre had a great season, and awed me, a skeptic, with his toughness last night.
by Midnight Rambler on Jan 25, 2010 4:36 PM CST reply actions
AGREED
I used to hate Favre more than anything, but the guy is one of my favorite players now.
Favre threw 2 INTs, but he was trying to make plays. They were bad decisions but they weren’t horrible, he was trying to make something happen. It just didn’t work out. If he gets sacked or takes a loss or gets no yards on that play, we can’t kick a field goal anyway on that final play. His ankle was too mutilated for him to have a good chance to run far for any yards. He would have had to run ten yards just to gain four. If he doesn’t force the ball in there somewhere, we can’t kick a field goal anyway. Favre didn’t lose the game for us with that final INT.
Favre played pretty well yesterday and played with heart and soul. He played like a champion QB. My whole life I have hated all the news that talked about how great Favre is and wouldn’t shut up about him. But this season, and yesterday, he earned all of it. The guy is a total gamer.
Thanks Favre, it was a great season.
Really? Did they just go there?
I haven’t read this whole thing, but skimming it, it appears it started out as a note of appreciation from Vikings fans to their quarterback for what he did this season. The best statistical season of a Hall of Fame career, the best quarterback season this team had seen for a number of years. Nothing about other teams, other seasons (although, even if there had been, let’s be honest here: those other seasons are the reason it is a forgone conclusion he is a first ballot Hall of Famer, so they’re not exactly dogmeat either).
But it appears, unprovoked by any prior reference whatsoever to other topics, it has now been overrun with a small but hardcore cadre of trolls from his former team who, having rejected and disrespected the man themselves, simply cannot stand the thought that anyone should would ever respect and appreciate anything he does ever again. They are compelled by some amorphous bitterness to cyberstalk here and tell Minnesota Vikings fans that their own personal opinions about what the man did this year are invalid.
So … just where do you guys stop?
Do you, will you, ever stop?
by puddnhead on Jan 26, 2010 8:40 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
puddn…you have a BAD definition of troll.
Here is some help:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29
The comments you are referring to are not inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic. Just because you don’t like what someone says doesn’t make it trollish. Most of the fans in here can have a discussion with someone and not go there. We were talking about this with Grime in here…the problem is that anytime someone says something that is remotely perceived as contrary…they are either called a troll or they get a barrage of “Packers suck,” where are the Packers right now, ect. I might argue that dsludo is the biggest troll in here…go look at his comments everything was civilian until he showed up.
That said, I haven’t been too involved in this one…I’ve had some pretty interesting talks with guys in here…someone having a differing opinion though shouldn’t be automatically called a troll.
By the way, lets not pretend that you don’t cyberstalk! haha
I have no disrespect for Favre…he’s amazing. He had a great year…I think its interesting to see Viking fans defend Favre the same way we have all his career…saying he can do no wrong and when he screws up that its really not on him. He has this way of wining his fanbase over with his play and his charismatic style. He’s truly one of the all time greats.
the TROLLS WILL NEVER STOP!
i boycotted the Pack and followed Brett to NY and then to MN. i just moved back to WI. you CANNOT argue with the anti-Favre contingent. these are the same folk that blame the NFC Championship in 2007 solely on Brett’s INT AND YET DO NOT solely blame Rodgers for the Packer loss against the Cardinals a couple weeks ago. let me be clear – i wouldn’t blame just Rodgers myself – nor am i blaming Favre solely for Sunday’s loss. but anti-Favre fans are bitter hypocrites. don’t argue with me. i live around them, some are in my family. some are friends. it’s a fact. according to the anti-Favre fans, Favre is an egotistical, selfish Diva and there’s no I in TEAM. yet they continue to blame him for the 2007 NY Giant loss – and NOT blame Rodgers solely for the AZ loss.
hypocrites. you CANNOT argue with them. waste of time. bitter fans.
Couple things…bitter fans? Have you read your own posts in here?? haha that is pretty laughable.
I don’t hate Favre…sure I have some bitterness toward him. He’s playing (and playing quite well) for the enemy, I should. What you expect me to cheer for him? ARe you going to tell me that if Moss had come to the Packers instead of the Patriots (which almost happened) that you would cheer for him and be happy if he made us successful? That is BS and you know it. Get over it. Stop telling people how they should feel about something.
The play that ended the 07 championship and the play that ended our season this year were very different plays. If you can’t see that you are blind. Rodgers deserves his share of the blame for not getting rid of the ball earlier, but really it came down to it being a great blitz call and they caught the team off guard and there was a fumble. That is very different from a player rolling out and making a judgement call to make a throw. They both ended the game with a turnover so I see the comparison but calling them the same shows either ignorance to prove a point or just lack of actually watching the plays and the games…which one is it?
We went through this same thing over at APC like I told you above in this thread. Any and every thread written over at APC from about week 4 to week 8 or 9, always seemed to turn into Favre/our organization problems/our fandom thread, despite be provoked by an prior reference to these topics. Hell, most of the time they started off as Brandon either previewing or reviewing our games from week to week.
I don’t know that’d I call it cyberstalking. Obviously fans are going to come over here after an NFC Championship loss, and even more so Packers fans who also watched Favre Qb their team for 17 years. Trying to invalidate what he did this year is silly. Despite how much it pains me inside to say it, Favre played the best season of his career. Some fans may try to invalidate the things he did this year but I’m sure even they know deep down inside that he was great this year.
by packallday555 on Jan 27, 2010 1:11 AM CST up reply actions
You keep making this "two wrongs make a right" arguement over and over in this thread
You obviously did not like it others did it to you, as you are still talking about three months later, but now here you are doing the same thing. And are any of those who did it three months ago even posting in this thread here?
I don’t get it. If everyone lived by that creed — one person one time doing something wrong, gives carte blanche for anyone else to do it for the rest of time — the world would be a really sucky place to live.
I’m simply giving you a reason as to why you probably see some of the members over at APC on this thread making comments. I don’t think I’m doing anything wrong by any means though. Sure, it was a thread to thank Favre for the things he did for you guys, and rightfully so. He was great this year and deserves to be recognized for it. But at the same time, not everyone is going to agree with certain peoples perspective on Favre, and in particular his performance in the NFC Championship game. I can’t tell you how many times we were told over at APC that we were “close minded” or this or that because we responded in a somewhat hostile way to those who felt the need to provoke us.
I just kind of think it’s ironic to see you saying things like, “But it appears, unprovoked by any prior reference whatsoever to other topics, it has now been overrun with a small but hardcore cadre of trolls from his former team who”. All you have to do is substitute “current team” for “former team”, and you have a perfect statement for what happened on our blog for so much of the season.
So … just where do you guys stop?
Do you, will you, ever stop?
More questions that could be substituted for Packers fans over at APC.
I like you puddn and have many great conversations with you throughout the year. I understand your perspectives on a lot of things, and I think you understand mine as well. I’m not coming over here trying to cause a problem. Rather just pointing out that what has happened to this thread happened many times before at APC, and many times when we tried to call the people out on it we were told we don’t consider anyone elses opinions or that we were homers, which really wasn’t the case.
by packallday555 on Jan 27, 2010 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
My problem with Favre is that
he didn’t just switch teams- he tried to shove up the wazoo of his former team that embraced him and put him on a pedestal for almost 2 decades as an icon. He was probably the most loved guy in Packers history and he got vindictive against fans that paid his paycheck and supported him, idolized him, and they didn’t deserve that. They have a very special thing up there in that small town of Green Bay and they deserved better. So, what does he retire as ? A Viking? I think the definition of a true Viking should involve more than 1 season. As a Packer? they don’t want him anymore. If you think he should retire as a Viking, I guess he could wear a Jets hat and a Vikings Jersey- but that wouldn’t make sense either.
"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking
Brett wanted to stick it to the Pack
that`s why he wanted to play for the Vikes and the Vikes wanted to stick it to the Pack as well. By falling short of the SuperBowl their plan failed.
Him beating us twice certainly was “sticking it too us” but I think anything short of the SB for the Vikings this year has to be looked at as a disappointment (Based off of expectations after they signed Favre.)
by packallday555 on Jan 26, 2010 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
"my problem with favre is..."
YOUR PROBLEM. you whiney, bitchy Packer fans (i live in WI and i used to be a GB fan myself) need to just shut up about the “sticking it to us”. do you realize what you sound like. you sound just like the people you’re screaming at who like Favre. SHUT UP!
I think you may be a little bit too worked up over an Internet blog. Try taking a few deep breaths. You may feel it’s ridiculous that many have turned their back to Favre, and in that same regard many of us feel it’s ridiculous that some people didn’t. Not everyone is going to share your opinion, and when you do encounter someone who doesn’t, screaming at them on the internet, calling them “whiny and bitchy” certainly won’t make them want to hear your opinion on the situation.
With that being said, do you not think Favre had any intentions of revenge? I mean I can probably assume what your answer is going to be judging from your anger filled reply to me above but it’s not like one couldn’t make a legitimate argument that he did have intentions of revenge.
by packallday555 on Jan 27, 2010 1:18 AM CST up reply actions
bottom line
the Vikings went out and wanted and got Brett Favre and for that effort they deserve all the good things he brought to the organization and the season but for all the good things he brought he also brought som things not so good. You guys can all decide for yourselves if it was worth it, as Viking fan`s you have to live with it. Myself I`m a Cowboy`s fan but I feel for you guys nonetheless. I think your chances are better next yr with Tav Jackson and a more focus on the run game but sheeesh AD needs to hang on to the ball and Chester needs more touches. With teams stacking the box to stop the run Jackson will get some favorable matchups heck with your arsenal Rice / Harvin / Shiancoe / Berrian even if he puts it up only 20 times a game. Draft some corner and safety help, add some linebacker depth, get a big body to replace DT Williams if he`s reteired but do not bring back Brett Favre and put the game on his arm.
they will have zero chance with T Jackson. He's a lower tier QB. Maybe Mc Nabb
but Mc Nabb chokes in the big game also.
"I think we agree, the past is over" - George W Bush
"The greatest enemy of knowlege is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge" Stephen Hawking
I'm not even a Vikes fan (though I do live in Minneapolis)
…and I gotta say that I have thoroughly enjoyed the show. Fellow Bears fans will call me a traitor, but Favre really is one of the greats, and he is damned fun to watch. I will miss him when he’s gone.
That said, the NFC North will be a safer place when he retires, so I hope he enjoys it as soon as possible!
May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.
Never in my Wildest dreams did I think that other teams
would come on to this post and say the Positive things that have been written about Brett Farve. The negative things were expected. Since I was not a previous fan of Bretts I have to concur. This guy makes watching a football game as much fun as when Fran, Joe, Tommy, Wade, Rich, Randall, or Duante was here. If you don’t know first nanes then you are probably a troll and don’t have to worry about it.
Thanks for all of your great feedback and the recs for this post.
Winning is not everything but it sure feels like it sometimes
Best Viking blog site on the 'net....
Is why they come lifelongvike, and posts like yours help make it so…There is not a place I have found with more salient, drill-down, and intelligent commentators when it comes to our Vikes….believe me I have looked…
Regarding Favre, he did more to develop this team/members in the year than 3-4 years of drafts/free agent additions, etc…..this was a magic season we will all remember in large part due to his effort and what he brought out in others surrounding him…
I and every one of us fans are right in thanking him for what he has done. I just hope that after some rest and recuoeration, and with time for reflection, he has it in him to come back one….more….year…..
SKOL VIKES and THANK YOU BRETT!!!!
NOTE: This year reminded me so much of the 70s….in many ways….next year will be even better, especially (and hopefully) when Brett comes back…
I would rather be IN the Arena than watching from the stands...That is my life!
* Read Teddy Roosevelt's "Man in the Arena" if you need further explanation...
by vikingfanfrom afar on Jan 27, 2010 4:24 AM CST reply actions
+10
Winning is not everything but it sure feels like it sometimes
by lifelongvike on Jan 27, 2010 5:37 AM CST up reply actions
The Favre Flop
In case you haven’t noticed Favre has a tendency to flop around every time he gets hit. It’s sickening to watch this guy lay on the ground for camera time then get up and “shake it off.” He is the dramatic 4th grader who dives for passes thrown directly to him.
Dude
I think its time you got over your grudge against Favre.
Favre played his heart out for the Vikings this year. His teammates and coaches loved him. He gave the entire Vikings organization a much needed moral boost and brought in a winning attitude that had been missing.
If his teammates respect him, why can’t you?
Oh, thats right… you are one of the few people that think Favre is only out there for himself. That his only reason for coming back is what? To break more records? And because he brings his emotions to the table and lays them out for all to see, that means he is a diva, right?
God forbid that Favre show a little emotion else he be forever labeled as a “diva”.
And furthermore he must have all his teammates fooled. Nobody likes a teammate that only is out there for themselves… so the fact that his teammates like him must mean that Favre must have done a spectacular job in fooling everyone that he wasn’t just doing this for himself.
I understand why quite a few Vikings fans didn’t like the Favre signing at the beginning of the season. What I don’t understand is how after Favre gave his heart to this team, had the best season of his career, that there are still Vikings fans out there who hate him.
by EasternVike on Jan 27, 2010 4:16 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Have not posted since late summer
have to say..the team did better than I thought they would even with Favre
and I have to amend what I wrote..
this team did become worthy of “98” consideration…
but the game has changed alot since that year…so…it’s still apples to oranges to some degree
Anywhoo-Favre played very well-no need to go into NFC Game…we all saw…
I was very pleased overall-we took our shot….maybe we get another one…
I have read alot..ALOT of posts since last late summer…
and I am not “KING HOMER” when it comes to any team I follow….
having said that….I enjoy varied opinions…
and and I have always been impressed with packallday-as far as his knowledge of the game…his civility without much hyperbole…
so I am happy to have Packer fans here…..of course I prefer intelligent discourse…not “your team sucks” crap…
we are joined .both sets of fans..now more than ever…you cannot have the Vikings without the Packers..and vice versa…much like Vikings/Bears (thank you Mr. Halas)
my point.? not sure-lol-except I think there are certain posters from other teams that add to this page…
"he's more machine now than man, twisted & evil"
yeah thanks Brett
join us in 1 more season ok !!!! you know if the game was not rigged we would be there this year…they tried their best to hurt you and you are tough tough tough !!!!!#1
Kendrik (still a fan , Idaho)
by Kendrik on Jan 29, 2010 5:00 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
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