Saints fans heckled Favre while injured
by medicineball on Jan 31, 2010 5:16 PM CST
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Saints fans showed up in a big way for the NFC championship game. They really showed something after Brett Favre needed help to leave the field. Trainers examined his ankle.
One of the first people on the sidelines to check up on Favre was long snapper Cullen Loeffler. He went over [to] the training table where Favre was laid out and heard some of the things the fans were saying. He said he’s heard some awful things in the past – it comes with the territory in the NFL – but he was shocked with what he heard.
"It was incredible," Loeffler said. "They were cheering and saying they hoped his leg was broken and he’d never walk again. I know fans are out to cheer for their team, but I couldn’t believe some of the garbage I was hearing. I could have expected something like that from Philadelphia fans because they kind of pride themselves on being jerks and being hard on everybody. They were the guys that threw snowballs at Santa Claus. I get it. But everything we had heard about Saints fans was that they were going to be loud. They were. But some of things they said to Brett was way out of line and really pathetic." . . .
"That was just sick. I know those fans have been through a lot and they love the Saints, but there was no call for that. I’m just glad Brett was OK because he could hear what they were saying just as easily as I could. I would hate to think that his last memory of playing in the NFL would be hearing the stuff he heard. That would have been pathetic."
That is utterly sickening behavior by Saints fans.
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Just another reason I want the Colts to kick their butts.
by PurpleJesus on Jan 31, 2010 5:39 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Hello PJ
SAINTS will win their first super bowl on February 7, 2010.
Vikings will win theirs some day.
You have it tough
I don’t think the refs are going to get away with what they did last week. Too many eyes on the situation now, after the fact.
Won't matter if they don't get away it
They only have to late hit Manning once to take him out.
Would you exchange a 15 yard penalty for taking out the QB?
Heck, would you exchange your 2nd string D-lineman getting ejected from the game for taking out the QB?
Refs can be looking all they want, but dropping the flag after the late hit helps no one.
Fines
Aren’t large enough. There is no doubt you have a good point. Perhaps they should suspend players for a game or two as well in cases like this?
They used to do that for cheap shots...
… but that was long ago. I doubt the union would stand for that now.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Feb 1, 2010 6:49 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
You are right about that. Then the fines need to be made painful. As painful as the hits they make…
Classy!
I’d like to think it was the gravity of the moment and perhaps the crowd mentality. I’ve been to New Orleans numerous times on business and was always treated very well. I found the people there were charming and really hospitable. This is a shame to hear about.
I could have expected something like that from Philadelphia fans because they kind of pride themselves on being jerks and being hard on everybody. They were the guys that threw snowballs at Santa Claus. I get it.
Cullen Loeffler is officially a dickbag.
Of course they did
You expected differently?
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by Christopher Gates on Jan 31, 2010 6:25 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
That 's is why the Saints need to win Super Bowl XLIV........
and the Vikings led by Brett Favre need to get their REVENGE on Sept. 9th, 2010!
Nothing better than beating the current Super Bowl Champions at their home.
Eagle's Stadium
Has it’s own JAIL in the stadium… Need we say more??
Watching The Game
Any of us that were watching the game on TV could hear the heckling, and the cheering as they walked Favre off of the field. You couldn’t hear what was being said, but you could tell the intent.
I can’t believe that the Eagles fan was even trying to argue their point on here. It’s pretty common knowledge that Eagles fans are among the worst, if not the worst, fans in the NFL. You can find plenty of that on YouTube.
I’m sure there are a few rotten eggs at the Minnesota home games but they’re much fewer and farther between.
The Minnesota Vikings - Undefeated in the Playoffs at Lambeau Field!
Yeah, i saw this Sunday morning, and after contemplating a while, decided not to post it myself. But since it’s here anyway now …
Although it’s very easy to get on the Saints specifically here, I’m gonna try to stay with the theme I tried to build in another fanpost: the Saints are not unique in what they are doing, they are merely more single-minded about it. Every team (& fanbase) is developing an increasing fixation on wishing to see their opponent’s star players maimed. When Brady had his leg grotesquely twisted in week #1 of last year, there was a video I saw of a Jets bar in NY where almost everyone stood up and cheered and high-fived each other when the game report (with the gruesome replay) came on the first time during the Jets game. Later on there actually was a fairly high selling "NY Jets Brandon Pollard Fan Club" tshirt (Pollard ws the guy that rolled his knee).
I would like to see the Saints (and Eagles) fans be viewed as more the “canary in the coalmine” here — the fanbases we first see these sad attitudes first manifested in, due to their circumstances … than the only two fanbases guilty of it, while everyone else’s are pristine.
This is hardly the first case of extreme obnoxious fan behavior I’ve seen in the last few years. And this reaction to this very play was not exactly limited to saints fans. Let me be direct, we also had this immediate reaction over at Acme to that play:
Mr. Favre, meet Karma.
She’s a bitch.
I wonder if he’s faking the injury this time too… still hoping for a flag to bail his ass out.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jan 24, 2010 5:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, well...
… I’m not proud of it. And I do know better. When I was (much) younger I once had to be pulled off an opposing player on a football field when I heard the guy taunt my injured friend as he lay on the ground in pain. Believe me, I get it.
The truth is that when I typed that I was reacting not to the hit on Favre’s legs (which quite frankly I didn’t see until the reverse angle replay after he was helped off the field), but to the interception, which I’ll admit I was hoping for pretty badly as a Packer fan who harbors some resentment towards Favre. I would point out that I didn’t say I hoped he was hurt, and I do think there’s a difference between watching a guy get hit hard and throw a pick, reveling in it on a blog and wondering if he’s dramatizing his apparent injury and shouting at him that you hope his leg is broken as he lays on a table getting examined just 50ft away.
But that all sounds like excuse making, doesn’t it? If you don’t believe the explanation about the pick, I don’t really blame you, even though I know it to be the truth. And if you don’t think there’s a difference between what I said and what the Saints fans said, I’ll accept that, and I accept Puddn’s criticism and his point. Like I said, I’m not proud of it.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Feb 1, 2010 7:12 PM CST up reply actions
Accepted....
Have to say this is unexpected, but one reason I like Mid-West people….best in the globe! We all say crap at times we wish we could take back….the ’net is unforgiving, hence more reason to wait a sec or two prior to hittinh “post”….been there done that, and like TSSC, live and own up to it! SKOL!
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by vikingfanfrom afar on Feb 2, 2010 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
I do feel the need to point out that Puddn combined two of my comments into one in his post above.
Probably doesn’t matter, but I’m not sure what legitimate reason there was for trying to make the above quote (which I acknowledge that I wrote) look like it was posted all in one comment.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Feb 1, 2010 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
I was just condensing out your sig and crap, I didn’t remove a single character you typed from two posts. I’m not sure what difference it made either, but … here you go. Full cuts and pastes of the entire posts
Mr. Favre, meet Karma.
She’s a bitch.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jan 24, 2010 5:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if he’s faking the injury this time too…
… still hoping for a flag to bail his ass out.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jan 24, 2010 5:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Not sure I buy it.
Favre has been a bit of a drama queen this year. Lots of hobbling around, telling folks he might not be able to play in the Packer game, and then tada! There he is. Good as new. I’m sure that hit hurt, but I don’t think it was as bad as he made it look when he was being helped off the field. Just like he was rolling around on the ground until he drew the flag a few plays earlier and then grinning ear to ear a minute later.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jan 24, 2010 6:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I give you cred for owning up to it here. And I agree, it’s not as bad as what Loeffler heard. And it definitely was not as bad as what I heard in advance of the Nov 1 game on your site (not sure who from, probably not you) where people were saying they wanted to see Favre’s “career end on the Lambeau turf.”
Fair enough.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Feb 2, 2010 8:01 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe someday you can admit you were wrong about other things you said about Favre
Not holding my breath though.
Only when I conclude that I am wrong.
Until then, it’s unlikely. I’m sure you’d answer the question the same way if I put it to you.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Feb 3, 2010 1:55 PM CST up reply actions
Have you all seen the pics of his ankle and hammy?
Holy crap his ankle was nasty, large bruising and swelling the size of a tennis ball. I have no idea how he was still out there playing that game. Hell, I hope he doesn’t remember this when fall comes around next year…
yeah saw them
was the one who posted them here. didn’t see them til after I posted what you replied to though.
It is an interesting dilemma. most people work for the money (in large part), and most people work at jobs that don’t put them at physical risk. Here’s a guy that should never need another dime, and his job — if it wasn’t evident before this game, it is now — is to be the primary focus of 11 physical behemoths/freaks to inflict as much punishment as possible on him, to get him so battered that he can no longer even hobble, or even better (for them) see if they can do even worse to him than what we saw in those pictures, to be the first ones in 20 years to get him to say “No mas!”
You have to love the game a whole d@mn lot to come back and sign up for another thousand plays of that, for no other reason than to try to have fun between the bruises, and get a new piece of jewelry.
But, Brett Favre might just be stubborn and obsessed (and foolish?) enough to keep doing it. I hope so.
Yeah sorry about that didn't see your post tell later.
Glad you posted them for all to see was pretty brutal.
GB fans are turning into this more and more. Once the hate for Favre infested the state, most fans(imo) have become classless a-holes.
Well,
I disagree, but that’s not surprising. The best summary of the Favre effect on GB fans I’ve seen was written by puddnhead when he said, early in the season, that the only schism that existed related to Favre was in the Packer fan base. That pretty much nailed it. I didn’t care for the way Favre handled his departure from GB and I still don’t, and for that and other reasons that are beside the point, I harbor some resentment towards Favre.
Complicating matters for myself and other Packer fans is that many of our friends and family had the opposite reaction. Virtually my entire extended family (with a couple of exceptions) essentially became Viking fans this year because that’s where Favre landed, and as a result, I not only got to watch a guy I didn’t respect torch my favorite (and his former) team twice, but I spent much of the Packer season watching games by myself or with just a few others instead of a house full of the people I’d been watching games with since I was a kid. That made the resentment build a bit more and I suspect similar situations resulted in some fairly boorish behavior by Packer fans over the course of the season, though I still think the “classless a-hole” contingent (and every fanbase has one) is a fairly small component of Packer-Nation, as it is for most fanbases.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Feb 1, 2010 7:20 PM CST up reply actions
I’m going to try to comment less on the state of packers fans, and packers in general, going forward.
I think the only thing I will say at this point is, I was more hopeful / expectant that this “schism” would be shorter lived. I’m becoming less sure of that now. Things have gotten more polarized, not less, in my observation. Even if Favre finally retires for good, it may continue for some.
It will end when Favre leaves football...
… or maybe just the Vikings, though it seems unlikely that he could end up playing anywhere other than Minnesota before he’s through at this point. The 2007 offseason caused a lot of arguments between the Favre camp and the Rodgers camp, but once the season started it was pretty easy for the two groups to get beyond it, since everyone still wanted GB to win and everyone could root for the Jets (either because they loved Favre or they wanted the draft pick we got for him to improve). It was the move to Minnesota that tore the scab off the wound and made it fester.
I for one will be very surprised if he elects to retire in the end. I’m sure he’s leaning towards retirement right now, but once his body stops hurting and we move on towards summer, he’ll realize that the virtually the same team that came a couple of plays from the Superbowl is still waiting for him in Minnesota. I doubt he’ll be able to resist that.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Feb 3, 2010 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
Agree with you.
Vikings have a lot of talent. They had many people invited to the Pro-Bowl. Childress is good with the draft. We have some people who had to step-up and could potentially become better for the next season. AP may have fixed his fumbling issues. We’re still a very good team. I think, if we do good in the draft for our O-line and there is competition for who starts on the O-line, we may see Favre itching to come back. Why not? If he has AP to hand off to get first downs with ease, and receivers to throw to and not worry about late hits, it may be easy for him to want to come back. You know he loves the game, and had a great time in MN. You know he didn’t want it to end.. I think all the pain he was going thru is what made it sound like he was leaning towards retirement. But the Vikings are still 1 great QB away from a Superbowl. He did sign a 2 year contract. — And fans, teammates, and even the coaching staff want him to return.
And it’ll be more than just winning game, it’ll be for filling seats as well.
i wouldn’t mind seeing him come back for 1 more year, and than taking a coaching position amongst the Vikings (Like a QB coach)
I doubt he would do that.
For as much as he was shoved under the Bus in GB, I doubt he would retire as a Viking.
Only way I could see that happenin, is if he played for 1 more year as a Viking, won the Superbowl, and continued with a coaching position for the Vikings.
Than, just than it could be possible.. If he did it regardless, he will get criticized from everyone.
Meh...
… he wouldn’t be the first professional athlete to have his number retired in more than one city.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Feb 3, 2010 5:24 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think that's accurate.
Pretty sure Michael Jordan has his jersey retired in more than one city.
Oh I know.
Maybe I’m misphrased my post. Hank Aaron’s got his number retired in two cities two (at least). I meant to say he wouldn’t be the first to have his number retired in two cities…
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Feb 4, 2010 12:14 AM CST up reply actions
Favre will never be a coach
at least not at a professional level — maybe high school coach though (even then probably just assistant).
He loves to play. He’s fine “coaching” as a player (colleague), but not as a pure coach. Won’t ever happen.
Hey puddnhead
Where do you get your take on this ? There is no precedent. As much as he can’t seem to live w/o the game, don’t you think coaching might be a good way to get though the football DT’s?!? I do think he’d be great as he’s so pesonable and incredibly football smart.
It's just what I think I know about him
I could very well be wrong. I think of him as an addict. He is only addicted to playing, though. Not coaching. Or, by the way, being in a broadcast booth.
It’s nothing more than a hunch I suppose, but somehow I have a strong feeling about it. Hard to explain, and I’m more than willing to concede I could be wrong.
I don’t think Favre would be a good coach. He’s not a prototype QB, must of what he does is instinct. His form isn’t the kind of form that coaches teach, part of what made him great. I just can’t see someone bringing in a QB who routinely throws off his back foot or takes high risk throws as often as he does. NOt a knock on him, I always said that. I can’t see him WANTING to coach either…just not his personality.
Thanks
for replying. Imay be looking at it more from how much of a motivator/inspirational kind of leader he’s been. Yeah, unorthodox form to the point of coaches cringing – until he pulls it off. He seems like the 12 step retirement candidate – coaching being a step…
As much as I'd like him to retire...
… if coming back increases the likelihood that the Vikes will get a new stadium, then I hope he comes back. I don’t want the Vikings anywhere but Minnesota…
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Feb 3, 2010 5:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hate the ones you know...
Would suck to move to Oklahoma or LA. Probably change the name as well… Blech makes me sick just thinking about it.
TSSC
Its been what 2 seasons since Favre has left G.B. isnt it time to lay this one down.He was the face of the Packers for many years and what he did for them will always be in the books.No one truly knows what happened except Favre and front office.
Favre moved on to do what he wanted to do which was miss O.T.As and training camp and then play football.Cant blame the guy,maybe he retires for real this year,but I wouldnt bet on a quick answer.Favre loves the attention,prolly has a book shelf full of press clippings.
Whatever he does and regardless of the parting of ways,Favre still amazes with his game play and do or die antics.Everyone says Favre lost that NFC game, but truth is from the H.C. down to the water boy lost that game.The Coffin was shut on the game long before that last inter and that wasnt even the last nail.
I hope Favre comes back and if he wants to wait till 3rd preseason game so be it,cant hurt to have Sage and T.J. take most the snaps for the Summer.
EVERY fan base has classless fans and yea I believe your explanation.Say 10 our Favras and 10 Hail Harvins and your forgiven.
Heckling - No Fanbase is Innocent
C’Mon – every team has fans that heckle opposing players, including our very own. To expect other teams not to heckle, however rude and unsportsmanlike, is being naive. I don’t participate in that and I don’t condone it, but you’ll never remove heckling from any sport. However, when it turns physical (i.e. throwing beer bottles, etc) that’s where you need to draw the line.
As far as dealing with gross personal foul type penalties, the league could adopt a 5,10-minute, or game misconduct, or even play a man-short for the most severe penalties. That would make for an interesting game and perhaps would make the other teams think twice before taking a run at an opposing player.
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"heckle" <> "hey fellow human being, i hope you are so hurt you never walk again!"
Shall we discuss next whether spanking not being “so bad” means it’s not a big deal to chain your child in the basement?
It's bad to chain your child up in the basement?
How about if he’s been bad like forgets to brush his teeth it’s ok then right?
As I said, I don't condone heckling
I think it was despicable what the fans said about my #4! Personally, I’d like to see a lot less of it, but I don’t think it’s going away anytime soon and I think most players who’ve been in the league this long know how to tune it out. And puddnhead – how do you make the leap from heckling to spanking or chaining a child to a bed? I said, when heckling turns “physical” is where it crosses the line.
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