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The Prodigal Homey has Returned--but will Winning?

This was the first pass between Favre and Moss. It happened three days ago. They may need just a bit more time before clicking. (Photo by Adam Bettcher/Getty Images)

I am really excited about the return of Randy Moss. Like, Nintendo 64 Kid excited. I think he's going to help the Vikings' sputtering offense in all sorts of ways. He'll open up underneath routes for Brett Favre to find Percy Harvin and Visanthe Shiancoe more often. He'll get some bodies out of the box for Adrian Peterson to run even more wild. Perhaps most importantly, he'll ensure that we don't have to depend on Bernard Berrian for big plays. (Because, you know, it's worked out as well as Lindsay Lohan's rehab through the first three games.)

[Insert obnoxious Stephen A. Smith voice here] HOW-EVAH, I'm not sure if we're going to reap the benefits of the Moss trade right out of the gate. Don't get me wrong--I think bringing Moss back will make an immediate impact. But the Jets, already a very trendy Super Bowl pick, are returning three crucial players of their own:

  • Darrelle Revis. Revis Island is returning to the NFL landscape after going missing from the map for a couple weeks. Although he may not be 100% and Moss has already beaten him deep once this year, it never hurts to return arguably the best CB in the league. Look for Revis and professional procreator Antonio Cromartie to share the Moss duties.
  • Calvin Pace. The Jets defense has already proven to be one of the best in the league--now they get to add a solid veteran linebacker to the mix. Hopefully it will take Pace a game or two to get back up to speed, because he can do some damage.
  • Santonio Holmes. The Vikings aren't the only team adding a wide receiver this week. Holmes gets to return from suspension to add another weapon to a passing attack that has performed surprisingly well through the first quarter of the year. (Take a drink every time the MNF announcers mention the words "Mark Sanchez" and "poise" in the same sentence!)

Star-divide

So while The Freak is a huge addition to the Minnesota weaponry, it's not like the Jets are coming to the fight empty handed. New York also happens to be playing at home on Monday Night Football with the whole world watching. I'm not sure if you've noticed this about the 2010 Jets, but they sort of like attention. Or as Rex Ryan might put it: "We really f***in' welcome the f***in' attention. Bring on all the attention you got motherf***ers. Sh*t, we even got former employees putting d*ck photos out all over the f***in' internet. We f***in' EAT attention. Speaking of EAT, let's go get a goddamn snack."

I think the Moss trade will pay huge dividends throughout the rest of this season, but I'm not sure how much we can expect on Monday. Favre threw his first pass to Moss three days ago in practice. Can we really think that there will be some sort of mystical deep ball connection right out of the gate? We can definitely hope for it, but we can't plan on it after less than a week of working together.

While most of the headlines are going to the offensive side of the ball this week (or was that headlines about offensive pictures of balls?), I see a low-scoring defensive battle taking place in the new Meadowlands tomorrow night. Remember, the Vikes haven't allowed more than 14 points in a game yet and the strength of any Rex Ryan team will always be the defense. I really want to believe that simply adding Moss will cure all that ails our offense right away. Unfortunately, I don't think our offense will do quite enough to get Minnesota's very tough October schedule off to a good start.

Prediction: Jets 20, Vikings 17

Go ahead and ridicule my pick in the comments section accordingly. But before you get too upset with me about not having enough faith in my team, let me tell you about my powerful jinxing powers. My friend Ryan and I are in the same fantasy league, and like most guys we talk about our upcoming matchups every week. Every time I tell him I think his team will win, he inevitably loses. Even when he's up 15 points going into the Monday night game and the other guy only has the kicker left, I'll give him the "you should be fine" kiss of death. Bam, loss. So hopefully the Thompson Curse transfers over to real football this week. I'd love nothing more than to be proven wrong!

And now my Week 5 NFL picks, even though the games are already underway (believe me, you'll realize I stuck with my original picks after most of them are wrong):

Jaguars over BILLS: "No, you win!" "No, YOU win! I don't want to!"

BENGALS over Buccaneers: Because the Bengals already filled their "loss to a crappy team that wears a lot of orange" quota last week.

Falcons over BROWNS: Jake Delhomme is back, and he might even play. Translation: congratulations Atlanta defense!

LIONS over Rams: You think that I'm going to pick the Rams to win their third game in a row? When they're on the road? If that happens, make sure you have plenty of bottled water and canned goods in your pantry, because the Apocalypse is surely upon us.

COLTS over Chiefs: My suicide pool pick of the week--just because I want to say I was ballsy enough to put my suicide pool pick against the last undefeated team in the NFL. (It sounds good, but c'mon--I'm not going out on a limb too much here.)

Packers over REDSKINS: Another rough one for the Pack--playing a mediocre Washington team that blew their wad on the McNabb Bowl last week. (Psst--that was sarcastic.)

PANTHERS over Bears: Todd Collins! Jimmy Clausen! I'd rather watch 48 hours straight of WNBA games!

RAVENS over Broncos: Denver, the team most famous for churning out year after year of 1,000 yard rushers, now has the #1 passing attack in the NFL? Maybe that's our sign of the Apocalypse. Good thing the Ravens' #1 pass defense should bring them back to reality.

Giants over TEXANS: I do NOT trust that Houston defense yet. And for some reason, I still think the G-Men are half-decent. If you can't tell, I'm not incredibly confident about this upset pick.

Saints over CARDINALS: Can Arizona just forfeit the remainder of their away games this year? They obviously don't show up during the games anyway--I think it would probably save the team a ton of money so they can buy a better QB for next year.

Chargers over RAIDERS: Well, September's over--this is the time of year when Norv Turner finally pulls his head out of his ass and San Diego finally starts playing up to their potential.

COWBOYS over Titans: I really hope the 'Boys annihilate Tennessee and the media slurps up their performance all week leading up to the game against the Vikings. Then right in the middle of all the patting on the back, POW! This happens all over again:

49ERS over Eagles: The Niners have looked like a dumpster fire and are 0-4, and I still like them to win the NFC West. Watch for them to finally get on track over the Fightin' Kolbs.

Last week: 10-4
Season so far: 39-23

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Hilarius…mostly because it’s true!

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by dthompson on Oct 10, 2010 1:48 PM CDT reply actions  

or

hilarious

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by dthompson on Oct 10, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is all I wanted.

Regardless of your pick I just wanted people to acknowledge what the Jets are bringing to the table. I think the battle will be one in the trenches and whoever wins that battle has extremely higher chances of winning and each team has talented running backs to get that job done. Who ever wins I think it’ll be by two scores or more. If the Jets can’t stop AP we will have a long night.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 10, 2010 1:53 PM CDT reply actions  

I............Disagree

i think that moss will be immediately effective, and by that i mean his presence will directly benefit Shank and Percy. So many lanes will open up in the slot and up the middle, as long as Moss can take a corner and safety to the outside. I am going to say 24-17 vikes

by muffin man on Oct 10, 2010 2:35 PM CDT reply actions  

The same goes for Holmes returning.

Everything you stated Moss’ presence can for the Vikings Holmes can do for the Jets. It comes down to the running back and the quarterbacks. LT vs. AP, Sanchez vs. Favre. LT is 4th in the league at running back for most productive, AP is 8th, Sanchez is 3rd in the league for at quarter back for most productive, Favre is 28th. The Jets have the edge going off of stats that have been accumulated throughout the first quarter of the season. This is why the are the national favorites in this game.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 10, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are not comparing Randy Moss to santonio holmes?

I realize that Randy is older, but santonio Holmes was not a superstar wide receiver for the steelers. Don’t get me wrong, I really really like the guy, but santonio Holmes isn’t even close

by Vikingsfan17 on Oct 10, 2010 5:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Not stat wise but presence wise as the fella above mentioned.

He said Moss will add a presence that will benefit your TE and Slot. Holmes is going to the same for the Jets. You can’t seriously argue that Holmes wont free up the middle with his presence.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 10, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Randy Moss draws double and triple teams almost every play. You think Holmes can do that? As good as he’s been, I’ve never seen a reason to think he deserves that kind of coverage.

by Cobra312004 on Oct 11, 2010 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Again, Holmes is a quality starter. Don't let my words fool you

But Randy Moss, is a premier wide receiver. Holmes has 1 1000 yard season in his career. Moss has only 2 seasons where he hasn’t had 1000 yards.
The highest touchdown total Holmes has had is 8. Moss averages 12.6 per season.

by Vikingsfan17 on Oct 11, 2010 11:11 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

a couple things

AP is clearly a better back than LT, there are a bunch of prime examples why that is so, but i’m not going to get into that. And as far as sanchez vs favre, remember favre hasn’t had a true number one wr, and now he gets Moss. And lastly, there is no comparison between holmes and moss.

by muffin man on Oct 10, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's your opinion.

As I said before, I would take AP over LT any day of the week, but LT has been more productive, stats don’t lie. Yes there are plenty of reasons why AP is better but as of THIS YEAR LT has been more productive, that’s a simple fact.

Sanchez hasn’t had his number 1 WR either and he still has played leaps and bounds better then Favre. Moss may be better then Holmes but right now, without his number 1 WR Sanchez is way better then Favre without his 1 WR. So they even out and that’s just me being generous.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 10, 2010 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

How are you measuring production?

NFL.com Stats
Last time I checked 392 yards > 341.
130.7 YPG > 85.2 YPG
3 Rushing TDS = 3 Rushing TDS

Average yards per carry? LT has the slight edge, and by slight I mean a 0.5 difference.

Now through in the fact that AP just had a bye therefore played a game less than LT and 392 looks miles better than 341 yards.

Stat’s don’t lie. Where do you get yours?

by lioninacoma on Oct 10, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Excuse me, I recently said AP was 8th, he's actually 9th. Ooops


For explanation on what these columns mean click (here)

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 10, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

As much as you guys love to hate me and love argue with me

More than half of the things I say are proven facts. The truth hurts, what can I say.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 10, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mike thats it you win you guys are so good they are just going to give you guys the trophy tomarrow before the game that isnt going to be played because you guys already won so there you go you are the best ever in fact the NFL just quit they gave up because no one can ever beat you guys great job and good luck with table tennis because thats the only sport left that you guys have not won in YOU ARE THE BEST now theres no need for you to hang around here with us Viking fans that suck so badly now go home MORON!!!!

by cali viking on Oct 10, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Definitely.

Put that can go for your fellow poster above who posted stats of why AP is better than LT as well. I think the battle will be won in the trenches but I’m not saying those stats are the reason why the Jets will win.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 10, 2010 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right!

How could we be so blind? Of course Chris Johnson is the 35th best back in the league! These “stats” are eye opening!

Look, I love that LT is having a surprise great year (so long as he stays healthy) but don’t throw this BS out there. Sabremetrics are debatable in baseball, they are utterly irrelevant in football.

by Cobra312004 on Oct 11, 2010 1:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Explicit proof that there are lies, damned lies...

…and trolls with infuriatingly misleading statistics.

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by Eric J. Thompson on Oct 10, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure you know the Terms and Conditions here.

Can you inform me if I’ve broken any rules? Opinions are welcomed aren’t they? And I don’t go trashing the Vikings for no reason, I just give my honest opinion and people choose to argue with me.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 10, 2010 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like we said you guys are the best ever now theres nothing more for you to say bye!!!

by cali viking on Oct 10, 2010 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've had people say that packer fans come here and you guys greet them with open arms.

I’m assuming they don’t praise the Vikings and instead praise the Packers which leads to a civilized debate. What do I do that’s so different. I’m not here to kiss your asses. The gym is going through renovations, Im out of work until they finish next month and I just so happen to read different teams sport blogs. What do I do that’s so wrong? I admit I’ve said some dickish stuff but look around you, these pictures, these insults, If im provoked I don’t cower and hide, if someone takes a jab at me i’ll take a jab at you. If you disrespect one of my players for having too many kids I’ll put a magnifying glass on favre’s scandal, if you call my QB a dirty mexican I’ll prove to you how much better he has been than Favre this year. I don’t provoke anyone. I’m not playing the victim it’s just the truth. I fight back, I can handle myself, they’re calling for my ban just because my opinion isn’t the same? Because I praise my players? Because statistically, the Jets are a better team and I use that to prove my point? What’s the big deal? Im a fan of another team I’m not gonna be all hugs and kisses. It’s the just the reality of it.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 10, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

BTW what's misleading about those stats?

Not trying to be a dick just wondering.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 10, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mike...

I’m not going to call you an asshat, I’d rather have the debate with you. (I’ll probably get chewed out for having it here, though)

The football heads who make the lines aren’t looking at those stats you provided. They’re using their football brains and lining up real matchups.

There are 3 misleading things about your stats.They stem from the fact that it’s ranked by DYAR, and an inherent fallacy lots of fans fall into.

1) the sample size
2) their relevance in determining “impact”
3) the fact that you’re using stats in your argument in the first place.

1) Sample size – It’s simply insignificant at 3 for AP and 4 for LT (and under 100 carries for both). if you want to have this debate at midseason, maybe, end of season, sure, but as of now the stats are unreliable on both sides.

The running back’s stats are going to be all over the place, and more importantly, calculating the defensive “values” from three/four games is meaningless. If ONE of the teams either team played had a freak week, either allowing more or fewer points than is representative of their defense, the stats go out the window. These are the things that average out in 16 weeks, but are deal breakers in 3/4.

2) DAYR is an interesting stat, and is actually pretty useful in fantasy, but also doesn’t really apply to real football where teams strive for 1st down balance, defenses game plan for incoming teams, commit to stopping elements of an offense, and really only value one statistic – the W/L column.

3) this is FOOTball…. what makes the STATS completely irrelevant is that there aren’t 9 players a side on the field, and our post season isn’t until January.

Football isn’t baseball. Fantasy football has completely distorted the idea of how football, a team sport, is watched by fans. You can’t measure individual performances based on stats,because it doesn’t measure a player’s off carry impact on defenses, it doesn’t evaluate their blocking. it just doesn’t work that way.

Don’t get me wrong. I play fantasy, it’s fun. [I dominate my leagues]. But it’s irrelevant to REAL football.

Reggie Bush is the best example. when he’s healthy, he’s one of the most impactful players on the Saints. Not because of what he produces, but because of the production he enables by dictating coverage.

And just like AP, there’s no 8/9 in the box stat. there’s no defenses have to go “big nickel” stat.

So yeah. I don’t like your assertion that the Jets are favourites because of those stats, or that the tats indicate that player x is better than player y.

And that’s why I think your stats are useless.

Also. I wish you would go have these debates elsewhere so I can get back to mindlessly cheering on my Vikings and enjoying the build up to this game.

by McCoubs on Oct 11, 2010 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

BTW

If your offensive weapons was so great and Favre was so great, missing your number 1 WR shouldn’t lead to your team being 1-2 and it shouldn’t lead to your QB being 2-6. If Shank, Berrian and Harvin was all so great, the Vikings should have been able to bounce back from Rice’s injury. It’s kind of a lame excuse to make up for Favre’s poor play. I’ve heard blame going on the receivers (for balls flying off their hands leading to picks), the o-line (That can’t defend the pass rush and has Favre constantly pressured) but never Favre. Who’s fault is it exactly that your offense is under performing? For the people that blame the receiving corps for Favre’s INT’s that’s just making your team look worst. Moss isn’t going to change the fact that your receivers aren’t catching balls and instead it’s hitting their hands leading to picks. Moss can’t change that.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 10, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can you ever reply with civilized conversation?

Seems like all you ever have to say is insults in all caps with plenty of exclamation points.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 10, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

No you guys only hate me because you can't stand to be wrong.

When I give facts that the Jets are better then the Vikings as a team you can’t handle it.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 10, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

No you guys only hate me because you can't stand to be wrong.

When I give facts that the Jets are better then the Vikings as a team you can’t handle it.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 10, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you know how fast you were going. Do you know how fast you were going. Meow!!!

by cali viking on Oct 10, 2010 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

We hate you

because you try to hijack every single post on here with a bunch of hot garbage how the Jet’s players are so much better than anything we could ever hope to field and the Jets are so good that they’ll defeat Obama in 2012 to enter the White House. This. Is. A. Vikings. Blog. We don’t care how awesome you think the Jets are and we certainly don’t want you posting it on every damn post you can find. Don’t you have a life? Dear God! Your cohort Crackback has already been banned here for doing exactly what you are. He just happened to lack any subtlety.

by Jepp The Viking on Oct 10, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can read the guidelines here

http://www.dailynorseman.com/pages/daily-norseman-community-g Inform me when I have ever broken one of these rules.
1) I have not been racist
2) I don’t talk about politics
3) I do unto other as they do to me. They pick fights with me and I pick fights back.
4) I have yet to get personal with anyone. Maybe on occasion when insults are directed to me first. I’ve never casted the first stone.
I don’t know what rules crackback broke that got him banned but If I was such a troll I would have been banned as well. I’m sure Chris knows about me, ask him why I’m not banned. When I joined here I read the guidelines and I follow them as best as I can.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 10, 2010 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do I have a life? Yes

Do you? Maybe you should stop being so concerned about me and realize the ones that try to argue with me are ruining every thread I comment on. No one says you have to reply to me, you guys post these pictures and pray fro my banning and call me names and all of this other crap. You are ruining this place not me.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 10, 2010 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please inform me what I am doing that is so wrong.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 10, 2010 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

No one else has a problem with me but the posters here.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 10, 2010 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

it goes something like this

in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.

by jethrophet on Oct 10, 2010 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

just gotta see that again...

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it goes something like this <<<<< click here

in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.

by jethrophet on Oct 10, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Boom!

knocked that m@#$-f@#$ right out.

I BELIEVE...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Oct 10, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

jethro that was the shit DAMN POP!!!!

by cali viking on Oct 10, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never said I was unbeatable.

You said if I acted like “this” in public someone would hand me my ass and I have to disagree. I’m bigger and more experienced in the fighting craft than the average joe is. I would be the favorite in the fight kind of like how the Jets are the favorites in tomorrow’s game. What do you want me to say? you’re probably right I’d get my ass kicked? What relevancy does this have anyway? None next subject please.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 10, 2010 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Point proven

thank you very much now move along Nancy

by Sixmark on Oct 10, 2010 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are we kidding ourselves?

We now are talking about our fighting skills?…..and to think this blog site used to be free of this shat.

by Jepp The Viking on Oct 10, 2010 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

He said I would get my ass kicked. Not my fault.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 10, 2010 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

He can see

very clearly what I said, and if I walked into a dive in New York and said the things you have regarding NY teams, I would expect the same thing, there is confidence and there is stupidity. You resemble the latter.

by Sixmark on Oct 10, 2010 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll reluctantly give you that one.

For both our sakes, I can’t wait until the game is over. It’s clear the two of us are water and vinegar and the DN is suffering for it. SKOL vikes.

by Jepp The Viking on Oct 10, 2010 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Honestly

I’m not the poison. I think DN is suffering because of the over the top comments. This was a completely relevant and well thought out thread but it’s now filled with pictures and comments that have nothing to do with this post. I’m sorry I said something that ticked people off. Me and some guy was having a debate about stats a ton of people just jumped in out of nowhere. I didn’t ask for the attention. He asked where I get my stats from, I gave him a pic and link, then… This apocalypse.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 10, 2010 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im a personal trainer to and train with MMA guys every week for fun and for cardio im not trying to be a dick but I have to have a bad attitude and a chip for what I do Im not evan going to get in to this with you it would be pointless but I would take you no prob thats just the way I am I have to think that way and getting hit thats just the fun part if you dont get hit its not fun! but any ways your time is up please go away!!!!

by cali viking on Oct 10, 2010 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ever been to American Top Team in FL?

That’s where I started out at.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 10, 2010 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Machado or Gracie?

And who did you do your Thai test with?

by Bjorno on Oct 11, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

You post one of these pictures in nearly every thread I comment in.

If anyone is “feeding the troll” it’s you.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 10, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sigh...

you remind me of the Saints fans. You come on here, tell us how we have no chance and how player X is SO vastly superior to player Y, and act butthurt when people don’t respond well to you. Are you seriously confused as to why other DNers are upset with you? You know exactly what you are doing. You intentionally post inflammatory material and play the victim when people call you out on it. (admittedly some more eloquently than others)

by Jepp The Viking on Oct 10, 2010 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not confused.

I can understand that you guys don’t agree with my opinions but what I bring to the table are usually documented facts. Nothing inflammatory. You can disagree with me, but just because I have a different opinion does not make me a troll. If everyone agree’s in a forum it makes the place boring and lame. I don’t always want to agree with jets fans. I want to see what other fans have to think. I read around the week’s competition and ask questions and conversate. You guys have taken it the worst. You don’t have to agree with me, but you dont have to insult me just because I say Sanchez is better than Favre. Seriously? I may praise Jets players a lot but I give you guys credit as well. It’s not my fault everyone replies with such negativity or that anyone replies at all. You dont have to reply to the things I say. I wish Favre a happy birthday and it turns into a troll alert? C’mon, I don’t ask to be replied to.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 10, 2010 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Be careful what you wish for?

I sincerely hope the Jets deeply enjoy the lavish attention of being annihilated on national TV in their own backyard.

by Elgar on Oct 10, 2010 3:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Does it count

if they say something like “that was a lack of poise by Mark Sanchez.”?

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by thewild_viking_twins on Oct 10, 2010 4:56 PM CDT reply actions  

That's a double shot

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by Ted Glover on Oct 10, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

39-23 NIce!

Although I got you there, 40-22. Not sure how you have me by so much in points but I will catch up!

by PurpleJesus on Oct 10, 2010 7:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Think I'm up 10 on you

If you mean the DN Pickem league.

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by Eric J. Thompson on Oct 10, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm only 7-5 this week so far

So you’ll probably be able to make up some ground.

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by Eric J. Thompson on Oct 10, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

No me too

I have you by 3 points so far this week. I checked.

by PurpleJesus on Oct 10, 2010 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

On a side note just read the report on rodger the comish he did an interveiw at the half of the oakland game, Just said they are looking at everything to see if any adds up and will make a call on it when its complete. But the article did say jenns manager said and repeated twice she didnt send the voicemail or pics to deadspin and doesnt know where or what they were from ,and then the deadspin writer said he’s not sure they are brett or some one else Hmmmmm someone’s starting to back track?

by cali viking on Oct 10, 2010 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

The guy at deadspin admitted falsely pressuring her

No doubt some of it is made up. That’s what they do. They take anything they find and don’t verify it’s validity and run with it.

by PurpleJesus on Oct 10, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Moss' Impact

I don’t think Favre will be able to resist the temptation of airing it out to Moss. I really don’t. The only question is, will they have developed enough chemistry in the past few days to be able to connect? Personally, I think they will on deep routes because Randy will make the adjustments on the fly to ensure it happens. Favre just needs to get the ball into the neighborhood.

And if Favre can hit Randy in full stride, it’s going to be a thing of staggering beauty.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Oct 10, 2010 8:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Staggering Beauty

DC, would that be us staggering from halftime drinks, or staggering from the effectiveness of beautiful play, just needed to clarify if we had to be sober to appreciate it.

by Sixmark on Oct 10, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

It will happen. Whether they connect or not will mean the difference between a big win and just a win.

by PurpleJesus on Oct 10, 2010 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

this game has all the makings of the GB game...

the home GB game where Randy simply took over…

PLUS

last year’s 2 games against GB for Brett.

I just see that level of ‘Im pissed and your gonna pay’ play.

I BELIEVE...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Oct 10, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's called pitch and catch

Can we really think that there will be some sort of mystical deep ball connection right out of the gate? We can definitely hope for it, but we can’t plan on it after less than a week of working together.

Logically, no. But these are both players that have defied logic since the moment they entered the league. The way I see it, if Brett throws it as far as he can, Randy can get under it and make the catch. The “chemistry” likely won’t be there just yet, but they can definitely do that much.

by Cobra312004 on Oct 11, 2010 1:46 AM CDT reply actions  

there will be major booing

someone might want to tell jets fans what happened the last time Favre got booed when he took the field

by lorenzo4 on Oct 11, 2010 1:00 PM CDT reply actions  

I think we should be able to vote people off the blog

I think a certain troll who shall remain nameless would be annoying even if he were a Vikings fan.

10 asshats and you’re done

by lorenzo4 on Oct 11, 2010 1:05 PM CDT reply actions  

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