Sunday in the NFC North
by Ted Glover on Oct 10, 2010 9:36 PM CDT
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Hey, I have an idea. I'm sick of talking about Favregate and how the Moss trade was such a bad deal for the VIkings. But really, if it was such a terrible thing, why would so many people go out of their way...almost to the point of obsessive hysterics...to pan the trade? But I digress. Let's talk football. You know, the game. On the field.
Back for a return engagement: The Superfreak, in Super Bowl, Homeboy.
There were a lot of interesting developments in the NFC North on Sunday, and if the VIkings can get a win on the road against the New Jersey York Jets tomorrow, they'll be right back in the thick of the NFC North. Let's take a spin around the block and see what happened in our neck of the woods, shall we?
Washington 16, Green Bay 13 (OT): The 2011 starting quarterback for the Minnesota VIkings, aka Donovan McNabb, did something that Aaron Rodgers has never done. He lead the Redskins on a game winning drive in the last two minutes or overtime to give his team a victory. That's right, Aaron Rodgers has yet to do that as a Packers QB. Rodgers, for all his hype, puts up great numbers, but when it's crunch time, he doesn't get it done. Call me a homer, call me misguided, call me a guy that can bring anorexia nervosa to it's knees, whatever. But until he can put a team on his shoulders and will them to a win, he...isn't...elite. Period. Matthew Stafford has more game winning drives than Rodgers does. Green Bay also suffered several more key injuries, and they are starting to take on the feel of the 1st Minnesota Regiment after the Wheatfield at Gettysburg (look it up, learn something). Rodgers (concussion), Clay Matthews (overworked athlete syndrome hamstring), Ryan Pickett (ankle), and Jermichael Finley (knee) all showed up on the post game injury report.
I don't know why, but I love this picture.
Detroit 44, St. Louis 6: Wow, Detroit looked good. I'm telling you, this is a sleeping giant that is about to awaken. They were jobbed by the refs in week 1 or they could be 2-3, and right in the thick of it. They absolutely whipped a much improved Rams squad in every facet of the game, and coasted to an easy win. I still think they're a year off, but Minnesota is going to have their hands full in Detroit at the end of the year.
Yeah, I think he's going to be good. Very good.
Chicago 23, Carolina 6: As I was watching this game, I honest to God thought that Carolina is maybe the 5th or 6th best team in professional football. Granted, I'm talking about the UFL, but they'd be pretty damn competitive in that league. How bad is Carolina? Well, Todd Collins was 6/16 for 32 yards, no TD's, 4 picks, and a QB rating of 6.2, which equates to the average IQ of most Bears fans (I kid, I kid).
Todd Collins was the starting quarterback for the Bears. And they won by a comfortable margin.
Worst. Quarterback. Ever. Next to Jimmy Clausen, of course.
Holy Jeebus is Jimmy Clausen terrible trrbl, just trrbl. And if I was a sports psychologist, I'd be making a freaking fortune off of Matt Moore right now. I mean, after watching Clausen swim around in a Olympic sized swimming pool of suck for three hours, realizing that he can't beat out Jimmy Clausen for a starting gig, his psyche must be to the point where he's ready to open a vein. Of course, the first thing I'd do to build him back up is throw in last year's game against the VIkings, but yeah, uh, I'd still make a lot of money.
What did Sunday show us? Well, it showed us that the alleged Emperor that is Green Bay has no clothes, or healthy players. They're an eminently beatable team, especially with all the injuries they're dealing with. If Jay Cutler is out for any length of time, the Bears are in deep trouble. Unless they play a UFL team every week. ANd let's face it, as soon as Jay Cutler comes back, Mike Martz will start throwing 65 times a game, and the Bears will come back down to earth.
Minnesota has to take care of their own business, which begins tomorrow. But hands down, they have the most talent in this division, and if they can play up to their capability, which should no longer be a problem with Randy Moss back on the VIkings, Minnesota is a thoroughly dangerous team.
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yes, talking seriously for a moment, going there is something every american should try to do — but only after they learn about the battle first. Everything is so much smaller in scale than I imagined, the field across which Pickett’s “charge” was made was so tiny, it’s difficult to fathom how 2000 bodies could have even fit in that space. If I recall right, that is the amount of Confederates that supposedly fell within a space of ten minutes in that section of the battlefield.
Very Humbling
My GG Grandfather was in Pickett’s Charge and was captured at the “High Water Mark”. I walked the rout of the charge and it’s actually one mile across from the Confederate lines to the Union side. It’s hard to imagine the valor on both sides for those three days of hell. As far as the Wheatfield, it was said that a person could walk across the entire site after that bloody struggle and not touch the ground once for the bodies.
The Packers really started to lose it toward the end of the game. It seems that whenever they face any kind of adversity, they inevitably commit penalties…and stupid penalties at that. Their offensive line started to wear down (I remember Bulaga being called for 3 penalties by himself). Crosby missed two field goals. AND Rodgers threw an INT in OT.
Plain and simple, they had plenty of opportunities to put the Redskins away today, but didn’t take advantage. People can harp about “points left on the field” all they want, but those don’t count on the scoreboard, which is all that matters.
Still, I’m more concerned at this point about the Bears. Why? Not because they’re any good, but they currently have a great record and the Vikes are in a hole. Now, I’m worried that the hole is too deep.
Pirates, Vikings, Hokies. I'm used to heartbreak. At least I have the Penguins....
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-The Great One
by blackjackfishtaco on Oct 10, 2010 9:53 PM CDT reply actions
We’re 1 game off of .500 and we haven’t played the Bears once yet. To call 1-2 a hole is an overstatement. Let’s see how the next couple weeks go before we start worrying about a Bears team that is destined for failure by it’s own system.
I’m concerned because of the upcoming schedule: Dallas, @GB, @NE. Those are three big games.
When we play the Bears, I am confident we will beat them both times. Cutler has shown he hasn’t learned anything new and Forte will not be able to run on us like he did against Carolina.
Pirates, Vikings, Hokies. I'm used to heartbreak. At least I have the Penguins....
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-The Great One
by blackjackfishtaco on Oct 11, 2010 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Rodgers may have been concussed when he threw the INT.
In any case, though, having watched some of the second half, the Redskins just physically pounded the Packers. Rodgers is always taking a beating. If he were on my team, I’d be screaming about the offensive line and the running game not showing up.
by medicineball on Oct 11, 2010 6:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I honestly didn’t expect the loss of Grant to hurt GB this much. He’s a good running back, sure, but the Packers have done little since he went out.
Pirates, Vikings, Hokies. I'm used to heartbreak. At least I have the Penguins....
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-The Great One
by blackjackfishtaco on Oct 11, 2010 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I would be surprised if it was that play. I watched most of the game, and I remember seeing in the replay of that play, on the camera angle they had behind Rodgers, that Rodgers seemed very alert, he immediately sat up, looked around for the ref, and pointed like he expected some kind of penalty (what I don’t know, the Redskin player did not hit late, and seemed to be very careful to get off him ASAP). Seemed very alert to what was happening. Doesn’t seem like how a guy would behave if he’d just suffered a concussion.
OK, now i read the article where McCarthy says this was the play. Huh. Like I said, it didn’t look like he was hit int he head or was not alert after the play at all. Huh. Maybe my memory is faulty, or I just don’t know enough about concussions to not be surprised at this.
OK, now I found the replay on youtube (the camera angle I was talking about was right at the end). I do see know that there was an incidental helmet to helmet hit after Rodgers threw the ball, as Landry came down on him. Also maybe a little bit of knock to the head and Landry’s body bounced off him on the ground. Missed that yesterday. Still, like I said, Rodgers looks really alert immediately after, he immediately looked towards the ref and held his hand out like he wanted a call.
The pack did look poor in the second half
but they did loose Matthews. He was an animal for the first half, I sat there scared to death watching Matthews totally destroy Washington’s OL. That guy is a game changer and without him on the field the Pac is a different team.
There is no excuse for totally imploding like the Pac has done twice now but without Matthews there must be huge adjustments to be made by the defense.
That guy is just like Jared Allen but a little younger. Scary good!
"If you've got them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow."
John Wayne
by just another viking on Oct 11, 2010 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions
packers injuries
would be the same as if Favre, Moss and Allen all went down in the same game. makes me sick just thinking about it…as many Packers fans are tonite no doubt.
“I’m sick of talking about Favregate and how the Moss trade was such a bad deal for the VIkings.”
Yea, seriously. As if the Vikes were in much better shape without Moss. Without seeing him on the field for one play yet I can laugh at that notion. First three games we struggled to drive the field and score. Adding a player like Moss isn’t gonna make things any worse unless egos flare and excessive T.O.-like media-whoring stir.
Moss wanted out of New England for a reason. It wasn’t so he could be unhappy at Minnesota. The man wants to play. If he and Favre are getting on the same page out there — look out.
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Who said that?
Not that I doubt it but I haven’t heard anyone say that the Moss deal was a bad one for the Vikings. I’ve heard people question whether it will fix the problems on offense, or doubt Randy’s ability to be a positive influence in the locker room, but not that it was a bad deal.
I just don’t see how anyone can say a starting WR for a 3rd round pick is ever a bad deal, much less one that brings the talent level of Randy Moss. That’s not even mentioning the way a trade like this can boost morale on a flagging team. But they will just have to wait and see tomorrow I guess (or especially next week in Randy’s return to the dome).
Agree....
I have a feeling……
The Jets (and their fans) are doing a LOT of talking and in my mind are rather overconfident….Homefield advantage, MNF, stirring up as much Vike controversy as they can (whether with Farve-gate, Moss-gate, or just "we are the best-est, brave-st, most-est blah bah blah)…all seems to be stacked in their favor….
but….
The Vikes have to know that this is a game they need to show for, and play on all cylinders for (includes ST, O, D, and balanced run/pass attack, etc.)…Let’s see how not only Favre answers the call/challenge, but the rest of our team/pro-bowlers….No need to talk the talk, rather they walk the walk….and they can…they can…
therefore…
I think it will come down to who wants it more, and I think we have something to show to the world as to who we are and what we can be….So bottom line we want that W more! The writers who had their darlings (Packers, Dallas, NO, etc.) are already having to eat crow as each of these teams that they thought soooo much better than the Vikes…..let’s feed them a bit more tonight!
in conclusion…
SKOL VIKES!!!
I would rather be IN the Arena than watching from the stands...That is my life!
* Read Teddy Roosevelt's "Man in the Arena" if you need further explanation...
by vikingfanfrom afar on Oct 11, 2010 7:22 AM CDT up reply actions
one word omitted....
The writers who had their darlings (Packers, Dallas, NO, etc.) are already having to eat crow as each of these teams FALL that they thought soooo much better than the Vikes…
I would rather be IN the Arena than watching from the stands...That is my life!
* Read Teddy Roosevelt's "Man in the Arena" if you need further explanation...
by vikingfanfrom afar on Oct 11, 2010 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Knocking heads with the Jets fans hey puddnhead.
I like being the underdog. The Vikes need a statement game. Hey kicking the Jets ass on MNF would be a good start. I just hope the Jets let us win though cause as you already know we have no chance. Well if we do lose are guys could hit on a few Jets cheerleaders to brighten things up.
mathews
i dont know where u get ur facts but cushing said he had overworked athlete syndrome not mathews its not like he got caught with steroids like the williams
They both went to USC at the same time
Just making a completely unwarranted inference with basis of facts to back me up
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