NFL Week Six Early Games Discussion Thread
by Christopher Gates on Oct 17, 2010 11:44 AM CDT
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PrintSince the Vikings don't play until 3:15 Central, yours truly is going to be locked in on the Red Zone Channel until kickoff. Our game thread for the Vikings/Cowboys game should be up at around 1:00 PM Central time.
Among the early games today are the match-ups of all three of our NFC North rivals. The Bears will be playing host to a Seattle Seahawks team that has been atrocious on the road thus far this season, the Packers will be hosting the Miami Dolphins. . .and, hey, if the Dolphins are good enough to beat Minnesota, they're certainly good enough to beat Green Bay. . .and the Lions will be traveling to Jersey to take on the New York Giants.
The rest of the early slate looks like this:
San Diego Chargers at St. Louis Rams
Baltimore Ravens at New England Patriots
Cleveland Browns at Pittsburgh Steelers
Kansas City Chiefs at Houston Texans
Atlanta Falcons at Philadelphia Eagles
New Orleans Saints at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Enjoy, folks. . .and, as I said, look for our Game Thread right around the time most of these games are going into the locker room for halftime.
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Yay! At my brother’s so I get to watch the RZC today! Perfect for all the early games today!
Fact from Seahawks/Bears
The Seahawks haven’t beaten a “would-be playoff team” on the road since 2004. . .
. . .when they beat Minnesota in the “inexplicable Randy Moss reverse pass at the goal line” game.
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 17, 2010 12:18 PM CDT reply actions
Touchdown, Dolphins!
They’ve got a 6-3 lead on the Packers, extra point pending.
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 17, 2010 12:18 PM CDT reply actions
Great pass by Henne
What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your entire rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Oct 17, 2010 12:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Great pass by Henne
What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your entire rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Oct 17, 2010 12:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
And, for you Gopher fans out there
Tim Brewster is officially out as head coach. Presser at 1 PM.
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 17, 2010 12:28 PM CDT reply actions
Argh
Stupid Henne
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 17, 2010 12:35 PM CDT reply actions
Packers take the lead back
Oh, well. . .their defense really hasn’t stopped the Dolphins yet. I have no doubt that Miami wins this game, probably quite easily.
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 17, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow, nice catch and run
by Rogers and Jennings.
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Gads...
Living in Misery, I get the Falcons-Eagles (YAAWWWN) and the Texans/Chefs.
facepalms And I have to work this afternoon too. Oh well, maybe the Panic Bowl will be on the radio.
by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 17, 2010 12:40 PM CDT reply actions
In SW Misery, the Vikings game is on Fox.
Might be a good day for you to quit your job.
Kansas City looking good. Todd Haley is taking chances and they’re paying off.
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by JethroBoViking on Oct 17, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
St. Louis beating San Diego
A town that was founded in 1804 by German missionaries and means whale’s vagina.
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Wow third and goal draw from the 10
for Seattle that went for a TD. That never works, except when it does, like this time. 14-7 Seattle.
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Oh, that great
Bears’ run defense never lets things like that happen. snickers
by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 17, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
C'mon hawks
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by PurpleValhalla on Oct 17, 2010 12:49 PM CDT reply actions
Brandon Marshall is really good.
That is all.
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I like him too
he never beat Ohio State. Hee hee
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By the looks of the early games,
The NFC is ripe for the taking. Falcons are struggling, to say the least, against the Eagles. The other 4-1 team is struggling against the seahawks. So, if the Vikings can get it going, they can still do this thing.
Sam Bradford
Is going to be really, really good. Hell, he might already be in that category.
Almost makes a guy wish his team could go 1-15 to get a shot at having someone that good to lead your team for a decade or so.
Almost.
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 17, 2010 1:10 PM CDT reply actions
Ryan Mallet
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A few intriguing guys in the first/second round
Ryan Mallett, Arkansas
Christian Ponder, Florida State
Pat Devlin, Delaware
I won’t even bother with Jake Locker and Andrew Luck, since I’m hoping we’re not in a position to take either one of them. They might go 1-2 overall.
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 17, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Ponder and Mallett
both like to find guys in the wrong colored jersey though…
by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 17, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Nike Williams
4 catches for 60 yards for the Seahawks. Wow…and Chad Henne just scrambles for a first down.
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*Mike
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A negative time a positive is a negative
FAIL. Because they’re too stupid to realize they could’ve gone the escort route and avoided the whole robbed by a hooker scenario.
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It's always about Marshall!
Marshall, Marshall, Marshall!
But it’s not a touchdown. . .only got one foot down. Damn, Henne, throw a better pass.
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 17, 2010 1:15 PM CDT reply actions
Hey, now
TBS showed re-runs of the Brady Bunch forever. . .I don’t remember its original run or anything. (-:
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 17, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Playing against Marshall in FFB.
I guess I’m lucky he’s only at 100 yards.
Big pass from Cutler to Knox
Bears in scoring position. Hold ’em to a FG, because I got Gould on my fantasy team.
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Is there a more over-hyped...
QB than Matt Ryan. I’m sorry, every time I see the guy, he’s the epitome of average.
Yeah, Jake Locker
Mallet plays the best competition in the country and has great stats and plays in a pro-style offense. 6’4’’ too. How can he be overhyped. Likely the best pro-prospect in this draft. If anyone is overhyped it is Locker based on last year.
Chip Scoggins via Twitter
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Leslie Frazier is interested in the Gophers head coaching job, according to league sources.
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 17, 2010 1:22 PM CDT reply actions
Why?
He’d be my choice for the Vikes job here in a few weeks.
by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 17, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I grew up near Duluth
so I never cared for the Gophers anyway. Rooted against them in College Hockey, actually. The Bulldogs under Sertie always used to thump them when I was a kid. :P
by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 17, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm kind of the same
I remember watching Fighting Sioux games on Prairie Public TV, when Coach Gasparini’s boys used to slap a lot of folks around. . .Ciccarelli, Tony Hrkac, and company.
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 17, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Brett Hull
Joe Sprenger, Rickie Koski, DiPietro, Tommy Kurvers, and Jim Johnson.
Oh well, those were the days.
by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 17, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Scoggins also points out
That had Tony Dungy taken the job as Seattle Seahawks president/GM, he’s on record as saying he would have hired Frazier as his head coach.
Dungy is expected to have quite a bit of input in the Gophers’ coaching search, although he’s rumored to have already turned the job down himself.
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 17, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
His team is less talented
He is the only reason they are in most of those games. That’s the kind of QB you want. Someone who carries a team, unlike Jimmy Claussen who everyone seemed to want.
I think he made some critical errors
in the Alabama game. And Arkansas played almost as well without him yesterday as with him. I’m not saying I wouldn’t take a look at him. But I’m not high on him.
I don’t buy the typical scouting assessments of QBs. I think they’re clueless on quarterbacks, which is why Tom Brady could go in the 6th round, Drew Brees could be overlooked, and Ryan Leaf and the succession of Raider’s busts could be loved.
They get all wrapped up in height and arm strength. Neither of those matter nearly as much as they think they do. They don’t spend any time on Football IQ, accuracy, and the ability to win—all of which matter much more to a starting QB.
by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 17, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Alabama is as tough a defense as you will face
He still had good stats in that game but the better team won, as they should.
I have watched a lot of him. The mistakes he makes can be coached. I am higher on him than anyone even Andrew Luck.
Hey
Maybe they will say their whole team is on the block too! Although AJ Smith is a prick to try and trade with! Probably would want 3 first round picks.
Brandon Marshall
Numbers against Minnesota – 4 catches, 71 yards (46 of which came on one play)
Numbers against Green Bay – 8 catches, 110 yards (and it would be more if Henne hadn’t overthrown him on a TD pass he was wide open on)
Oh, and there’s still 10 minutes left in the third quarter for Marshall’s numbers to get better.
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 17, 2010 1:42 PM CDT reply actions
But wait...
we were told (again) that Green Bay would have this amazing, unbeatable, ironclad 3-4 defense by all the talking heads.
Just like we were told last year…and the year before.
by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 17, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
The Packers don't care whether they win or lose
They have been told they will win the SB so why care??
colors of green and gold
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by PurpleValhalla on Oct 17, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Vikes inactives: QB J. Webb (3rd QB), WR H. Baskett, S Tyrell Johnson, RB Gerhart, FB N. Tahi, G C. DeGeare, DT J. Kennedy, DE E. Griffen.
Aaron Rodgers
What a f***ing baby. Shut your stupid, overrated trap and play football, you worthless slug.
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 17, 2010 1:58 PM CDT reply actions
Some more Dolphins/Vikings/Packers stats
Chad Henne for four quarters against Minnesota – 9 completions, 114 yards, 1 TD
Henne to Brandon Marshall alone today – 9 completions, 123 yards
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 17, 2010 2:01 PM CDT reply actions
Nice to see
That the officiating crew from the Arkansas/Auburn game yesterday somehow made their way to Green Bay.
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 17, 2010 2:09 PM CDT reply actions
bears loss
and pack’s humiliation…..would be good
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by PurpleValhalla on Oct 17, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I Say Bears, because they are farther ahead of us, and the Pack, with all their injuries are going
to fade as the season goes on.
Finley wasn't even really that big of a deal last year.
Not sure why everyone is making it out to be the end of their season.
Well...
… that’s fair, sort of. Except it’s Finley, Lee, Matthews, Barnett, Pickett, Harris, Burnett, Bigby and Tauscher that are out this week, not to mention the primary backups behind Matthews (Chillar, Poppinga) and Pickett (Neal). Basically, GB’s in survival mode right now, just like you guys are or were before Moss arrived.
Be nice if the Bears would lose occasionally while the Packers and Vikings try to find their legs.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, and Grant.
Matthews absence today is having the same effect on GB’s defense as Rice’s absence had on your offense until the 4th quarter last week. Offensively, well, I’m not sure what’s going on, but they just aren’t playing very well. Rodgers certainly is having a worse year than he did last year, but there’s a lot of that going around.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Touchdown, Seattle
By Marshawn “thank you, Ralph Wilson, for not trading me to that s***hole in Green Bay” Lynch.
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 17, 2010 2:24 PM CDT reply actions
Daniel Manning KR touchdown for the Bears
Or, it would have been, if not for the holding penalty that negated it.
Ha ha ha ha awesome.
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 17, 2010 2:27 PM CDT reply actions
Judd Vikings Zulgad tweet
inactives were wrong. CB Chris Cook (knee) is inactive and RB Toby Gerhart is up.
Have a claim in for Roethlisberger on my fantasy team
And dropping Kolb. But wondering if Kolb will start next week? I have Brees as my starter so it is not a world ending decision.
I know!
That’s why it is a tough decision…. Does Vick start again next week? If so, I must drop him and claim Big Ben. Claims don’t get processed til Wednesday so maybe I will hear by then.
Apparently....
…. standing up 2 yards off the line is now “lining up over center”. In a league where a catch isn’t a catch all the time, I guess I’m not surprised.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
It's new.
I’ve never seen it called when the guy isn’t actually on the line before.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought that was payback for the non-call on Jones being shoved out of bounds on Allen's pick, but maybe you're right.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
The 2010 Green Bay Packers
The most undisciplined allegedly “great” team in the history of the league.
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 17, 2010 2:35 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah, our 8th LB really is undisciplined, isn't he?
I don’t really disagree with your conclusion, but the even that triggered the statement isn’t really a good example.
But GB’s defense just doesn’t have anything left right now.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Touchdown, Dolphins!
Nobody near Fasano the entire way.
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 17, 2010 2:38 PM CDT reply actions
Perfect call by Miami on the blitz from the same side.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Nope
Dolphins and Seahawks both win in regulation.
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 17, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
You know, the occasional expression of doubt isn't a character flaw.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I think what Chris has, while it involves his unfaltering belief in his team, is waaaaay to angry to be called optimism.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Then why aren't we all that way?
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
You do realize that a confident expression of one's opinion
Doesn’t necessarily equate to “anger,” right?
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 17, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure.
But I’m not relying on that comment only for the the “angry” part of my conclusion.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Good question.
Down to 1 TO now, but I’m not sure GB can make that matter.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, another penalty on the Packers
I know. . .I’m as surprised as you are.
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 17, 2010 2:46 PM CDT reply actions
i like seeing cutler on the turf
it makes me smile.
I piss people off on a fairly regular basis. I cherish my right to speak my mind, whether I sound like an uneducated savage or not. I've never been accused of keeping what I think a secret, nor will I ever. Don't like it? I don't care.
it was fun watching wiscy beat tOSU last night too!
what a fantastic weekend this is turning out to be!!
I piss people off on a fairly regular basis. I cherish my right to speak my mind, whether I sound like an uneducated savage or not. I've never been accused of keeping what I think a secret, nor will I ever. Don't like it? I don't care.
I went to high school with Bret Beilema
He was a freshman when I was a senior. Talk about a nice family – farmers really. All the Beily boys were ox strong! He’s a hard guy not to root for in my book!
God, McCarthy's an idiot.
It’s 4th and 7, he’s got 3 time outs. If they fail on 4th down, he could use the TO’s and the 2 minute warning to have a last shot at gettting the ball back.
Instead, he lets the last 15 seconds tick off to get to the 2 minute warning without calling the 4th down play.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 2:49 PM CDT reply actions
Well, they got the 1st down, so it might work out for him.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Concussion
I read and article this week that military researchers have developed a simple blood test that can can tell if a person has had a concussion. I really recommend the Bear’s stock up on these!
Because they knew McCarthy would call it for him?
Not sure why McCarthy let 30 seconds run off before he used the TO, but whatever.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah but if you stop him you don;t need the TO
And if they score you still get the ball with about 30+ secs left. Assuming they score on the first play
Here's where they really miss Finley.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to mention some semblance of a running game.
Oy. This is ugly.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I say they miss Grant more
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Well, yeah, probably.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
It was the same thing in the goal line stand against with Washington last week.
McCarthy just isn’t a very good coach, in my opinion.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty sure that wasn't the play call.
But Miami left a huge hole over center.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I really think Dan Fouts
would fellate Aaron Rodgers on camera.
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He's like that with almost any QB though, isn't he?
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
They didn't...
.. so Woodson mugged him.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds about right.
All coverage penalties seem to fall on #21
Most of them are deserved.
I love Woodson, but he’s handsy.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Strange stuff.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you still have to throw downfield to try and win
Not take a knee… What if there is a penalty on the play? You can kick a FG
I agree. Especially on the road.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Dolphins won the toss.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 3:03 PM CDT reply actions
Packers probably too...
… Dolphins just took possession on their own 48. The only need about 17yds for a FG.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
THANK YOU SEATTLE
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Houston Texans.
Giving TDs to Johnson and Foster. Thank goodness.
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