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Vikings Fall To 2-4; Will Likely Still Win NFC North

I'll get into the post-mortem tomorrow, but yeah, I just figured I'd put that out there.

Have a good night, folks.

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On the other hand...

Clay Matthews’s stellar performance coming off a hamstring injury confirms the NFL’s need to eliminate all restrictions on the use of amphetamines.

by jimbo55403 on Oct 25, 2010 1:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

hardly stellar

made a few big plays but wasn’t involved in the defense as usual.

I'm still a Minnesotan at heart...

by urluckyday on Oct 25, 2010 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was there..........................

The Packers got all the calls!

WTF!

Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!

Brett Favre will be back in 2010, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLV, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre in 2011 is inevitable!

by REVENGE4FAVRE on Oct 24, 2010 10:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Serious question. Were you in a black Favre jersey, with a black cheesehead?

by packallday555 on Oct 24, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Purple Home Jersey!

Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!

Brett Favre will be back in 2010, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLV, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre in 2011 is inevitable!

by REVENGE4FAVRE on Oct 24, 2010 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh never mind. I thought for sure the guy I saw was you. He also had Favre Forever written across his black cheesehead.

by packallday555 on Oct 24, 2010 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me too!!!

When I saw the black Farve jersey guy I also thought R4F!!

by greenbay packers backer on Oct 24, 2010 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can explain...

…it’s Lambeau, it’s known for pretty blatant home-town reffing. There’s your answer. Nothing new there, really.

by Wytefang on Oct 25, 2010 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah!

Like that pick play on Moss’ TD. Oh. Wait.

by OffBrandWisconsin on Oct 25, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brutal.

Game of inches.

 2 feet down for Percy or that ref doesn’t screw up Big Shank’s TD, that’s a Viking win.

by craig in calgary on Oct 24, 2010 10:50 PM CDT reply actions  

less shoving harvin

pre-catching the ball, then he gets two feet down.

by loldotcom on Oct 24, 2010 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I HATE GREEN BAY!

Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!

Brett Favre will be back in 2010, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLV, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre in 2011 is inevitable!

by REVENGE4FAVRE on Oct 24, 2010 10:52 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Wrecked

All must hate Green Bay. It is the law.

by sabbath999 on Oct 24, 2010 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Harvin’s 1 foot looked just like the Packer’s receiver’s 1 foot on their 1st TD! Not to mention him loosing possession as his a$$ hit out of bounds!

by solafide on Oct 24, 2010 10:53 PM CDT reply actions  

That was a horrid game.

No pass rush, pitiful calls and its time to sit Farve. We cannot give up the ball 3+ times each game because we are afriad of playing without #4 as the QB. There is no point in watching them when we dont play up to our potential week in and week out.

by Vorgrin on Oct 24, 2010 10:54 PM CDT reply actions  

+ 28 +12

For the two best players BY FAR on the team.

by Ace991 on Oct 24, 2010 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually...

..we can’t allow opposing teams to rush or harass our QB while not doing the same to theirs. Place the blame where it belongs, on our O-line who is inconsistent at best and on our non-existent Pass Rush. Not too fearsome these days. \:(

by Wytefang on Oct 25, 2010 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

can't argue

Every time Klink calls up a right-sided run, AD is basically moving a pile while his supposed blockers are standing to the side watching like they just dropped an egg.

by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 25, 2010 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you!!

Good to see that I’m not the only one noticing the crap-ness.

by Wytefang on Oct 25, 2010 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

no, you are not the only one....

i just got tired of stating the obvious while the homers try to state delusions of the “pro bowl o-line” and then try to argue in such a way as to twist my criticism in such a way as to “prove” that i agree with their point of view. the “thought police” syndrom. but since the o-line has been sucking the whole year, the homer-speak about the o-line seems to have ceased.

p.s. nice timely facemask, loadholdt !!!

in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.

by jethrophet on Oct 25, 2010 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Officials are dictating too many W's and L's.

Vikings and Miami have legitamate beefs.
Enough is enough, players have to be accountable for their actions, time for the refs to be.

by craig in calgary on Oct 24, 2010 10:55 PM CDT reply actions  

I can't believe the Miami game.

Replay shows a fumble. They see a Miami player leave the pile with the ball. But since (they claim) the replay doesn’t show that same player came up with the ball, they give it to Pittsburgh at the 1? Huh? based on what rule? The ball wasn’t there when play stopped. It’s either a TD or a Touchback. There’s no way by rule it could stop at the one, because the ball clearly went INTO the endzone.

by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 24, 2010 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Harvin's review

clearly showed pass interference, I’m sure the refs smirked as they were under the hood for the review.

by loldotcom on Oct 24, 2010 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty much

Not only did he bump Harvin before the ball got there, but didn’t what Peprah was doing fall under that whole “face guarding” thing that they, allegedly, frown upon so much? Because Peprah sure as hell wasn’t looking back for the football, I can tell you that much.

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by Christopher Gates on Oct 24, 2010 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think face guarding is on the books anymore.

Could be wrong though, I guess.

BCB free since 8/24/10 and happier for it.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 25, 2010 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

That would have been the softest PI call in the history of football.

by packallday555 on Oct 25, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

And if it had been

Frank Walker “bumping” Donald Driver like that, would it have been called?

You’re God damn right it would have been.

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by Christopher Gates on Oct 25, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about the non call of Walker manhandling Jennings all the way up the sideline with no call on Rodgers 2nd INT?? Man, you guys are pathetic.

by OffBrandWisconsin on Oct 25, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

In the post-game presser

Childress said that tonight’s game was the worst officiated game he’s ever seen.

He’s going to be making a sizable donation to the league’s charities. . .but he’s probably right.

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by Christopher Gates on Oct 24, 2010 10:57 PM CDT reply actions  

The NFL need to review the Packer’s 1st TD and Shiancoe’s TD and change the outcome of this game. If only… I am so pissed off at the Refs, i don’t mind so much the Vikings self destructing, just the Refs changing the game so drastically, it’s total bull sh

by solafide on Oct 24, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

i mind the vikings self-destructing…

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the preceding statement was false" - george carlin

by BranFavrenton on Oct 25, 2010 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sometimes...

It’s worth getting fined to make your point. A coach can only take so much without at least some lubrication to ease the chafing.

by sabbath999 on Oct 24, 2010 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

???

I just watched that and he never said those words (" tonight’s game was the worst officiated game he’s ever seen")? In fact he only commented on the calls of one specific play, never said anythign about officiating on the rest of the game

by puddnhead on Oct 24, 2010 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah. . .and?

Big deal. . .I was wrong once back in the 80s, too. . .it happens.

Would you like to discuss football, or are you going to troll?

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by Christopher Gates on Oct 24, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's ok

I’ll just let you all whine about the refs.

by sshake on Oct 24, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

then please explain the Packer’s 1st TD! yeah you can’t!

by solafide on Oct 24, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about...

the second that wasn’t a TD….the Shiancoe TD that was somehow dissalowed….

by Jepp The Viking on Oct 24, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably a bad call

Still only a tie game if that gets overturned.

by sshake on Oct 24, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Until Longwell makes a figgie at the end of the game.

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by blackjackfishtaco on Oct 24, 2010 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

How many 4th quarter comebacks does Rodgers have?

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by blackjackfishtaco on Oct 24, 2010 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

0!

One of my favorite stats in the world.
Aside from Cutler’s passing stats to DeAngelo Hall today! 4 Completions for 92 yards!

~Lah~ ♪♫

by Seracon on Oct 24, 2010 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

False

He has three fourth quarter comebacks.

This took me precisely 14 seconds to look up.

by Stoa on Oct 27, 2010 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think that was a bad call

The NFL has been saying it for weeks, if the receiver goes to the ground when making a catch and does not have complete control its incomplete. He had two hands on the ball, but the ground caused it to shift. That is not complete control. Its just the way it is.

by Branta on Oct 24, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

??

gonna have to rewatch, because the replay I saw 10 times showed the ball staying completely still.

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The Packers, that’s who.
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by TheViking83 on Oct 24, 2010 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

You would be correct, TheViking83.

It never moved a lick. A patently bad call that anyone could see..

by Wytefang on Oct 25, 2010 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

What replay?

B/c anyone I saw was a TD that dind’t move the ball. Come on man, you might have ’’won’’ the game but that is downright blind.

by Jepp The Viking on Oct 24, 2010 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Non-Biased Lions fan here....

That was a TD. The ball did not move.

8====D my lil' j16941

by j16941 on Oct 24, 2010 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

8====D my lil' j16941

by j16941 on Oct 24, 2010 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

LoL funny J, I thought it did move, plus he had it between his forearms not in his hands, not really "secured"

Honestly that call could have went either way. It is a crappy rule, but a lot of teams have been jobbed by that whole process BS. Had his hands been under the ball I think he would get the TD. But his forearms and wrists had the ball pinched to his chest, and it clearly did shift when he hit the ground, the nose of the football hit the ground making it some weird mix of a trap and process catch. IMO the incomplete while not a clear call, was more right than a TD call.

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by Evilsmurf on Oct 25, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

the ground caused it to shift...??

were you drunk, causing blurred vision?? The ball didn’t move. He had and maintained possession the entire way. Everybody I was watching it with (packer and vikings fans included) including both commentators agreed.

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The Packers, that’s who.
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by TheViking83 on Oct 24, 2010 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

a coach who doesn’t know how to throw the challenge is part of it. Ref was completely blocked.

by sshake on Oct 24, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

so you agree it wasn’t a TD, thank you!

by solafide on Oct 24, 2010 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t a catch but from the position the referee was in he couldn’t see it. Henderson was in the way. Childress should have challenged it.

How about the terrible spot on the Rodgers run, and then the Jennings catch? Both were first downs. Bad calls happen. Don’t blame the loss on the referees.

by packallday555 on Oct 24, 2010 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm gonna go with plays that involve legit/non-legit TD passes

as being much more of an impact than 3rd and short plays.

14 point swing is more than just a bad call.

by loldotcom on Oct 24, 2010 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t disagree but that’s why the challenge rule was implemented. To make up for the referees (who are human like you and me) making mistakes. Childress should have have challenged it.

I don’t really know what to think about Shiancoe’s catch. The ball did hit the ground and jam the ball into his body, which could be considered as helping him make the catch but at the same time it didn’t appear that the ball moved.

That Jennings play could have had a big effect on the game. If we get the first down there, who’s to say we don’t go and score a Td? After all, we moved the ball pretty easily on your defense all night.

by packallday555 on Oct 25, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually on the replay after the commercial break, I thought it showed Rodgers sopt was pretty good. The One you guys got jobbed on was the one that the reciever (forget the moment hwo) was coming back for the ball, you should have had a first from the pointhe had possession, but they called it a fourth

by puddnhead on Oct 25, 2010 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good

We can do that without you.

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by Christopher Gates on Oct 24, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Glazer reporting that

Favre admitted to NFL security that he did leave the voicemails for Sterger but did not send her the lewd pictures. They were all sent from the same phone number. So, either Brett lets other people take pictures of their johnsons and fire them off to sideline reporters, or Favre’s not telling the whole truth.

by Branta on Oct 24, 2010 11:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Yawn

Who cares what some brainless ho-bag is whining about, anyway. Totally nobody without this news story to prop up her dead career. Laugher of a non-news story, really.

by Wytefang on Oct 25, 2010 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ahem…..Troll.

SKOL VIKINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by North Ranger on Oct 25, 2010 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Apparently the Vikes

had to beat the refs AND greenbay tonight. We beat the Pack, just not the zebras. Fuckjob.

by Jepp The Viking on Oct 24, 2010 11:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Chin up folks.

2-4 would be crippling any other year, but not 2010 in the NFC. The Giants and Falcons have 2 losses, but they’re going to win their divisions anyway. That leaves the Seahawks, who appear likely to win their division as well, and the Bucs, who aren’t exactly intimidating.

Effectively, you’re trailing in the wild-card and the division chase by one loss in each case, and the Bears are a fraud. Not gonna lie, I enjoyed the game and I’m glad my Packers won, but this isn’t a crippling loss. I hate the Vikings, but I think most of you folks over here are awesome, and well…. yeah. That’s it, I guess.

Night all.

BCB free since 8/24/10 and happier for it.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 24, 2010 11:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Atlanta might win the south this year

New Orleans has looked horrible so far this year and I’m not drinking the Tampa Bay Kool-Aid just yet,plus i’m from GA

by Curtis2012 on Oct 24, 2010 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Will someone tell me.....

What how Chilly “threw Favre under the bus” at the press conf??
Can find online yet………..

by greenbay packers backer on Oct 24, 2010 11:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Specfically

He wondered aloud why he was throwing across his body when Percy was open.

by Branta on Oct 24, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks!!

Chilly needs to keep his trap shut…………..When Favre works his magic with the same type ALL THE TIME!!

IF I STILL RESPECT FAVRE CHILLY ALSO NEEDS TOO!!

by greenbay packers backer on Oct 24, 2010 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree, actually

Chilly is absolutely correct. You can’t force the ball, and Favre always does that. It working for him at times does not excuse it. Its a poor decision.

Favre stared down a lot of receivers tonight, felt like I was watching a rookie on some plays. The sack in the 2 minute drill comes to mind.

by Branta on Oct 24, 2010 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is who Favre is

I’ve gotten use to the good with bad………he plays the game with passion which is great 100% of time.
It will lead to mistakes but most of time it’s called heart and I still love it.

PS Can’t believe I’m defending Favre by myself on Vikings Blog…..someone back me up here.

by greenbay packers backer on Oct 24, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

When it works, its good

When it doesn’t, its not? That’s pretty dumb. DBs are smarter now than when Brett first joined the league. Its just a fact of life. Training, film study, everything gets better as they have gone on. Brett is still an all time great QB, but he would have been better off in Mississippi this season.

by Branta on Oct 24, 2010 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Say, thanks for your input. Who cares. No purple blood in you. Now take your comments back to the Meadowlands.

SKOL VIKINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by North Ranger on Oct 25, 2010 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hell yea GPB Ill back you up and you are 100% correct!!!

by cali viking on Oct 24, 2010 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

THANK YOU!!

He was playing banged up all season……..someone tell him he is being superhuman for still being out there!!

by greenbay packers backer on Oct 24, 2010 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does he get a Lombardi for being tough?

Come on. The guy deserves respect for a great career but when he plays like crap there’s nothing wrong with criticizing him. This isn’t elementary school where you get a ribbon for participation : )

by CanadianViking on Oct 25, 2010 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

No Favre left behind.

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by blackjackfishtaco on Oct 25, 2010 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

He threw....

What would have been the game winning TD (in the prefect spot for the receiver) with a under a min. to go on ankle he couldn’t even stand on to celebrate. If the receiver would have done his job that foot would have come down in bounds you would be singing his praises RIGHT NOW!!

by greenbay packers backer on Oct 25, 2010 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

You cannot say that Harvin didn’t do his job. From what I understand (though haven’t seen the replays), Harvin was pushed to the back of the end zone and face guarded. He did everything he could to make that catch.

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by blackjackfishtaco on Oct 25, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

not sure why..

…but i just love your screen name

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the preceding statement was false" - george carlin

by BranFavrenton on Oct 25, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

both QB and reciever played well on that play. There is no blame here to assign that it was not a completion. It just happens sometimes. The QB made a great throw & the receiver made a great catch, its just that obviously favre had no idea where the exact dpeth of Harvi in the endzone was when he threw, and Harvin didn’t know exactly where Favre would throw to.

There is no blame here, it was an almost great play, it just didn’t happen, that’s it.

by puddnhead on Oct 25, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

last year i felt confident every time he dropped back..

…this year i find myself cringing a lot more… i almost saying tjoke could do what he is doing for about 19mil less… but wont go there yet…must….keep…hope…alive…

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by BranFavrenton on Oct 25, 2010 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would back you up

but I get tired of the piss brain reasons people come up with to bash Favre. It gets to the point that I am so sick of hearing, “why did he throw it there” or why didn’t he just eat it? Because you don’t get anywhere playing it safe. Sorry, you just don’t. If you did, TJack would be the starter or Moss wouldn’t be here…….I get sick of hearing that he just doesn’t have it in him anymore. I saw that PC last night and I saw a guy who has the weight of the world on him and people still find a way to piss on him. Yes, he presses. Yes he takes chances, but face it, we were still in it with his 3 INT’s, the Shank catch that was overturned, the Quarless bobble, and a 1st and 30 on the last drive. Blame Favre for the picks, but there is STILL more than enough blame to be passed around.

by SeanInEauClaireWi on Oct 25, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Favre made some bad decisions. I think we all have to accept that. I think your point is that there may be extenuating circumstances for those bad decisions. I will accept that too. Both can be true. Question is, where to from here, for him & for the team.

Sorta lost in the fact we lost is the other fact that, this game was — removing Favre’s couple of dumb decisions — actually the best the offense has looked all year. I felt for first time that they were capable of getting it done, and yet they are still getting up to speed, that they could keep getting better.

I don’t know why people who have given up on season, want to bench Favre, fire chilly, etc etc, don’t see that.

by puddnhead on Oct 25, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

and its not even the fact that there are outside issues that could or are

affecting Favre’s mentality. My point is that even with the INT"s, and lets not forget that Rodgers threw 2 interceptions, the game was still in reach. And Favre came back, albeit after throwing the interceptions, with a touchdown drive that is vintage Favre. I saw one interception that he was being tackled at the legs that DID alter the trajectory of the ball. The other 2, yes was pretty much Favre and I won’t excuse that fact. The guy is hurt. His mind is obviously screwed, even if he is the reason for it(Sterger), and he still plays and still puts it all out on the field. Everyone is expecting/wanting him to just quit. If he just quits, he looks like he doesn’t care. If he keeps playing, then he is a diva who is just out for himself. The guy can’t win. As you said Puddnhead, the offense looked alot better. The Vikings secondary got burned on a number of occasions. The last drive consisted of a false start and a Facemask penalty. You now just took possible run attempts away and are now forced to throw the ball. The front four has almost no pressure on Rodgers even though we got an INT from Allen. Face it, their is enough blame to go around and to pin it all on Favre or on the oline or on Chilly/Bevel is a cowards way of going at it. I will make myself clear on this matter, I am not excusing Favre in no shape or form. But what I am stating is THERE IS STILL ENOUGH BLAME TO PASS AROUND. So call for Chillys head. Call for Favre to step down. Just look around and tell me that every other facet of the game was perfect and it was only Favre who screwed up and prove to me that it is all him. I can find enough holes to say why we lost the game and I didn’t even blame the refs yet.

by SeanInEauClaireWi on Oct 25, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

The guy can’t win.

for $20million….i expect him to find a way to win….he is finding ways to lose.

in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.

by jethrophet on Oct 25, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

okay u took that one a step further.

I was not meaning the money. I was meaning the calls for his head, to either step away or just quit.

by SeanInEauClaireWi on Oct 25, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea, i took your words a little out of context...

but he gets paid bank, and treated like royalty. i just expect him to bring the winning edge/attitude wiith him for that kind of cash.

in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.

by jethrophet on Oct 25, 2010 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

so your logic is we should bench him becaue he is making too much money

what, if he is “only” making $5m, then we play him???

Sometimes people here don’t even TRY to think rationally about these things. Please don’t tell me you’d actually think the way if you had the power to enact your opinions. Ugh.

by puddnhead on Oct 25, 2010 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

noooo, now you sound like llv ;)

i just said that he gets paid sooooo much, that i expect him to play like a $20million dollar qb. but he isn’t.

in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.

by jethrophet on Oct 25, 2010 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

for zygi's purposes he is

Or at least he seemed to be at the time. It’s about more than football. A LOT more. Seriously, the payoff if that gamble works is huge for him. So it is worth even some long odds of it panning out. An 100 to 1 payout for 20 to 1 odds (as it seemed at the beginning)

by puddnhead on Oct 25, 2010 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, i am just a fan...

and i would rather root for the guy, but it is getting hard to to take these losses. now that brittney has some broken bones, we might get to see some change up at qb. even if just for a few weeks.

i kind of want to see favre treated like any other player before his time ends here. and right now he has a 68.0 qb rating, pick-six-itis, a broken ankle, alleged tendonitis in his throwing elbow, marital problems, legal hassles and he is acting like he just doesn’t really care too much.

in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.

by jethrophet on Oct 25, 2010 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

he is acting like he just doesn’t really care too much

I am with you actually until that. There is a ton of evidence to the contrary on that one. Granted, I thing he was stupid and short sighted not to come to camp earlier. I’ve been saying that her since about Aug 10 actually — probably one of the (or The?) first DN homers to say it. That is just the way the guy is, unfortuantely. But once he got here, again like the guy alwasy is, I think all evidence points to him caring a lot. Jesus just Sunday the man (smartly or not) refused to let the trainer see his ankle because I bet he knew he wouldn’t be allowed back in if they did. That is symptomatic of a lot of things — determination and grit if you see it positively, hubris and stubborness if you don’t — but it is not a symptom of apathy.

I guess I would also think we coudl have a more rational, serious discussion about it if you stopped mocking him with the wrong name. Am I really one of hte few ones left who still cares more about finding our way out of this mess, than just venting my anger with mocking comments?

by puddnhead on Oct 26, 2010 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

sure he wants to "play" cuz then the focus will be on him

but i don’t think he really cares if this team wins. i would love to see him get pissed and say, “we could have won if…”, maybe call out the o-line for getting his ass kicked, or just saying “if we can pull together, we can win….we need to get ahead if we want to make the playoffs”….stuff like that. he just acts too apathetic about the outcome and i don’t hear anything motivating coming out of his mouth.

he will always want to play and try to pad his legacy, but i think he plays for himself first and foremost.

if you want the focus to be on how to get out of this mess, then why not look at what is wrong. i am a vikings fan…farte is just a rental to me, and he is a big part of the problem right now (again).

in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.

by jethrophet on Oct 26, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

You need to...

put the blame or much of it where it belongs though, on the O-line that was inconsistent at best and awful at key times. Can’t have that much pressure and expect any QB, now matter how experienced or good to not have some INTs or bad plays.

by Wytefang on Oct 25, 2010 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's isn't "throwing under the bus"

That’s “making a legitimate point.” It was a dumbe decison. End of discussion. He dind’t make dumb decisons like tht last year, and things went much better. He needs to stop looking at the standing, take a deep breath, and stop acting so desperate.

by puddnhead on Oct 24, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I were the well beaten up Favre
stop acting so desperate

(after only 6 weeks – thanks, OLine), I would probably feel desperate when I had the ball after 2 seconds as well. He has made some mistakes, but there’s no doubt he can’t move 1/2 as well as he did last year from this abuse. As a result, I think he may be taking additional risks, instead of additional hits. Still, he’s made mistakes – which comes with BF. But so do drives that give you hope. As wel the warrior who never gives up – and throws a great TD after throwing 2 picks. It was Chilly who kept him in after the picks. That was a bright spot in Chilly’s night. The red flag that stayed in his pocket, though, left alot to be desired. Part of that can be attributed to the guys upstairs who didn’t give him timely info so he could do the right thing.

I also think refs need to be seriously fined/suspended for their poor deeds on the field that change game outcomes (not just Vikes games, so withold the ‘homer’ remarks trolls, please).They are w/o recourse at this point. 02

by jshep on Oct 25, 2010 7:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

We didn't fall

We were pushed off the clif by the fricken refs ..
the Nfl worried about helmet to helmet hits .. they need to put
a end to the lousy refs .. and the way the use instant replay ..
I thought the call in Miami was bad until i saw this game ..

by VikinginCalifornia on Oct 24, 2010 11:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Packer loss

Not convinced it’s over for the Vikes but it’s too bad it’s taken this long for the offense to start to gel. We cannot lose more than one game the rest of the way. Defensively, unless they find a way to get to the QB or at least pressure him, opposing QB’s will have a field day picking us apart. Gotta step up in that department. Percy Harvin is now a legit threat and adds another dimension to their offense. It’s quite possible that teams that go 10-6 will still get in, but it’s time for the Vikes to get on a roll and start dominating and playing with fire in their belly. It’s not over………..QUITE YET!

by jjlovesfootball on Oct 24, 2010 11:04 PM CDT reply actions  

agreed..no way we beat new england..

..letting tom bundschen have all day to throw..first to worst in pass rush in a year..wtf???

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the preceding statement was false" - george carlin

by BranFavrenton on Oct 25, 2010 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Win NFC north...

… now we are in wishful thinking land. It could happen, but after next week we might be 2-5.

I’ve not one to say sack Childress yet, but Leslie Frazier would take the job and might make a better coach.

The coach needs to rally the guys around Tavaris Jackson now, and have the guts to bench Brett Favre. He’s making 3-4 turnovers EVERY WEEK, and I just can’t believe Jackson could do much worse.

Frazier to head coach, Favre to clipboard patrol

by HammeroftheGods on Oct 24, 2010 11:05 PM CDT reply actions  

While he's at it, he should probably then...

..bench most of the craptacular O-line who lets Favre get nailed and pressured nearly every game this season, so far. They’re flat out inconsistent and it’s killing our team.

by Wytefang on Oct 25, 2010 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Packers did not win this game!

The Refs gave it to them!
Their 1st TD was crap, 1 foot and bobbly loss of possession as he came down!
Then Shaincoe had it firmly throughout the entirety of the contact with the ground, even the commentators agreed it was good!
You Packer trolls need to thank the Refs for this win! Just be honest!

by solafide on Oct 24, 2010 11:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Someone tell Moss

that he can’t breathe on DB’s deep down the field, there’s another 3-7 points basically taken off the board

"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin

by thewild_viking_twins on Oct 24, 2010 11:06 PM CDT reply actions  

You're not complaining about the Offensive PI call, are you?

He had both hands on the receiver and shoved him away, that’s about as clear cut a PI as you can get.

by Branta on Oct 24, 2010 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

It kept knocked him off balance and kept him from being able to jump. I’m sure you’ve played football before right? If so, you probably know how difficult it can be to suddenly stop or jump when you’re running full speed and get knocked or pushed off balance.

by packallday555 on Oct 24, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

It doesn't matter one bit.

Both the DB and the WR have equal rights to the ball. More often than not WRs get away with little push offs, but that was blatant.

by Branta on Oct 24, 2010 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can’t believe this is really being argued really. Even Collinsworth, who ALWAYS is in favor of the receiver in PI situations said the push off was blatant.

by packallday555 on Oct 24, 2010 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shoved? Seriously, you think it was a shove?

I don’t see it as being that strong of a push to qualify as a full-on shove (which implies a more violent push). It was a pretty crap call, all things considered. But that’s Lambeau field – people talk about “oh what an awesome place for football, blah, blah, blah” but the reality is that it’s a crap place for opposing teams as long as they pay off the same ol’ hometown refs like they always do.

by Wytefang on Oct 25, 2010 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not a shove but a push. But that’s moot. The bottom line is IT effected Collins ability to go up and make a play on the ball. Hell, he wasn’t even able to jump. Go back and watch the replay.

by packallday555 on Oct 25, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Come on. He clearly pushed off of him. Clearly.

by packallday555 on Oct 24, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he pushed off

how come there wasn’t any seperation due to it?

by Jepp The Viking on Oct 24, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Go back and watch it in a highlight. It clearly effected Collins.

by packallday555 on Oct 24, 2010 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

The only thing

“clearly” about it was that he put his hands on him. I don’t have a problem with the call, but this call is not consistent. It just seems that when the Vikes and the Pack play in Lambeau, calls like this happen more often.

"Skol pa fiskande"

by NobleSavage on Oct 25, 2010 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Moss does that nearly every time. He did it on the 4th down throw to him by Favre too. He’s good at doing it and getting away with it. Sometimes the refs see it and sometimes they don’t. That’s the reason it’s not called consistently.

by packallday555 on Oct 25, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Flop

Have you ever seen a punter flop when a defender rushes by and grazes him? The defensive back on that play should get an Academy Award for his acting job on his flop because Moss barely touched him.

The refs in this game were total suck. That pass to Harvin should have been 1st and goal from the 1. The last time I checked, the defender was not allowed to push the receiver before the ball got there.

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by BaldViking on Oct 25, 2010 1:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

He did that alot in 98 too......

but the refs were awestruck then, I guess.

by Mel Allen on Oct 24, 2010 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't blame the refs

The refs were undoubtedly terrible, but you can’t blame them for a loss when Favre throws two INTs, including a pick-6, we don’t challenge a touchdown that would have been called back, we commit 20 yards of crucial penalties in the red zone at the end of the game, and we refuse to throw the ball at the end of the first half to attempt a field goal that would have allowed us to kick a field goal to win instead of having to score a touchdown.

Terrible officiating, but you can’t make that many mistakes, especially on the road, and expect to win the game.

by juliancasablancas on Oct 24, 2010 11:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Refs Suck

Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!

Brett Favre will be back in 2010, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLV, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre in 2011 is inevitable!

by REVENGE4FAVRE on Oct 24, 2010 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

R4F

I have to ask you – did you see any mistakes in BF’s game last night? Did they have any impact on the outcome of the game? I, also, believe BF is great, but I notice you have yet to put all ‘credit’ where it is due in regards to this game. This one is not blemish free where Favre’s impact on the outcome is concerned. Please advise – Shep

by jshep on Oct 25, 2010 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I will sort of speak for R4F.

No, Favre wasn’t perfect. I think we would be insane to say that. But as I have stated on this matter is that there is alot of blame to go around. I saw mistakes in the Vikings secondary where a guy named James Jones of all people can move around the field and get yac. I saw a front four who minus the Allen INT isn’t nearly as dominant in the def passing game as they were last year. I saw a play that should have been challenged. I saw a play where we did get robbed of a TD. I saw a false start penalty and a facemask penalty and a Clay Matthews throwing of the helmet while the play was happening. What I am seeing by your post jshep is that Favre SHOULD be the only one to take blame in this loss. Yes Favre takes alot of blame because if he doesn’t throw the pick 6, we still have a chance to stop them for a field goal. Or if he doesn’t throw any of the picks, we win the game. But who is to say that the Packers score those points anyways and we punt? I mean everyone is acting like its those plays alone that would dictate the game. Other things could have happened to make the Vikings lose, but at least we could blame it on something else right?

by SeanInEauClaireWi on Oct 25, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

What I am seeing by your post jshep is that Favre SHOULD be the only one to take blame in this loss.

i don’t read it that way, sean. i read the comment that he is responding to first, then his comment. it is pretty clear to me that he is responding to revenge’s usual commentary….being that favre is some kind of savior god that can do no wrong. jshep did not say to put all of the blame on our little bratt, but he points out that some of it should go to the dirty old man.

in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.

by jethrophet on Oct 25, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

p.s. revenge was blaming the ref's in his post...but he is an established favre defender.

nothing wrong with revenge’s pov, just that it can be a bit over the top pro-favre.

in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.

by jethrophet on Oct 25, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

noted...

and thats why I said sort of since I was too lazy to scroll and see what R4F may have said before his Refs suck post lol.

by SeanInEauClaireWi on Oct 25, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hi Sean -The bottom line is

that R4F has never shown that he clearly sees all aspects of any game BF is in. R4F’s pov isn’t as over the top as it is ’I’m you biggest fan ever’ contolled. It’s just beyond annoying to see a ‘defense attorney meets david cassidy fan club president’ mentality ALL the time.

Sure, it’s nice to see the gung-ho ‘I-bleed-Brett-Favre (oh sorry, I meant purple)-we’re-gonna-win-it-all- (but only because of BF being here – darn, I did it again!) loyalty-like-Brett’s-pet’ here and there. But never being honest enough w/ the folks at the DN – let alone yourself – that’s gotten more than old.

Sorry if I left you thinking I was blaming only Favre. I definitely saw all the things you pointed out, as we know R4F did too (rage duly noted). I was simply pointing to the fact that R4F never sees Favre as less than perfect, which even a major fan like me readily admits Favre isn’t, and is not gonna be. Thanks for hearing me out – Shep

PS – R4F (aka Santa’s elf) LOL. Add me to your ‘trader’ list (BTW – it’s ‘traitor’) you mention below.

by jshep on Oct 26, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

so it is ok to score 1 footed TD’s, no problem in the NFL? oh and while loosing possession?

by solafide on Oct 24, 2010 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, ask Quarless

"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin

by thewild_viking_twins on Oct 24, 2010 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

The ass counts. The bobbling of ball, does not count. Childress didn’t challenge it and he should have.

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by blackjackfishtaco on Oct 24, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Packer Trolls Get Out

Let us b!tch about the Refs, we have the right because if all the right calls were made on TD’s! The Vikings would have won! That’s what matters!

by solafide on Oct 24, 2010 11:10 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

wait ’til tomorrow, when some of us are thinking a little more clearly

"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin

by thewild_viking_twins on Oct 24, 2010 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I TIVO’d the fourth quarter and went to bed—just watched it now, so for me the game just ended.

Bad offensive line play killed the Vikings on that last drive, not the refs.

That doesn’t take away from the blown Shiancoe call and the phantom GB TD earlier in the game, to say nothing of Favre’s mistakes…but it’s not all on them.

by Midnight Rambler on Oct 25, 2010 5:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hate to be the guy that puts blame on the refs. I often view it as a sad attempt to rationalize a loss.

But tonight…..?

Man, I just can’t get over it.

Pack receiver gets only one foot down, TD… Harvin gets one foot down, no TD.

Quarless loses possession of the ball, TD (dont even get me STARTED on how stupid our coaching staff is for not challenging this) Shiancoe completely maintains possession in the endzone, no TD.

Matthews, on his own accord, removes his helmet in the middle of a CRUCIAL play… no penalty.

It feels good to put it out there, but when it comes down to it, it’s still a loss. Favre played incredibly poorly and the defense looked completely lost at times. I appreciate Gonzo’s enthusiasm about a successful season ahead, but I’m really starting to really question whether 2010 Favre is capable of winning a big game. The officiating was frustrating, but we aren’t going to win games playing like we are. Adjustments need to be made and it needs to start at the coaching level. Conservatildress and his posse of yes men are not going to get the job done with the current gameplanning.

If you can't laugh at yourself... Who can you laugh at?
The Packers, that’s who.
-- The almighty Manimal

by TheViking83 on Oct 24, 2010 11:12 PM CDT reply actions  

thought of one more I stewed over a little bit

Can’t remember which packer it was that went down to the ground after a sack (something that was recently made illegal) but NBC specifically showed the ref simply telling the guy, “hey, stay on your feet” instead of throwing a flag. They threw the flag on Dallas’ Colombo for that same thing after a touchdown a couple weeks ago and all the analysts all week said it was the correct ruling. Not too worked up about that one, just one that nobody has mentioned (therefore, maybe it wasn’t a deal at all)

If you can't laugh at yourself... Who can you laugh at?
The Packers, that’s who.
-- The almighty Manimal

by TheViking83 on Oct 24, 2010 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey!

Saw the same thing, and JJ (the guy I was watching with) was in an uproar. The refs ultimately call these penalties when they want.

"Skol pa fiskande"

by NobleSavage on Oct 25, 2010 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Classic try by Favre on one leg despite the paid off refs

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Oct 24, 2010 11:24 PM CDT reply actions  

We aren't going to win games...

as long as Brett Favre keeps considering 3 turnovers per game from the QB position acceptable.

Col Klink was an idiot for not challenging. But we know Klink’s an idiot and won in spite of him last season. The refs jobbed us, sure.

But Favre’s longest pass play in the game went to the wrong team, again. Flat out, I’d be calling Favre in and say the New England game is your LAST chance this season. Screw up, and you sit down.

by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 24, 2010 11:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Here’s the question though, can Tarvaris make some of those TD throws that Favre makes? Favre is just as good at times as he is bad, and it’s worth the risk.

by solafide on Oct 24, 2010 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

2 QB system!

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by blackjackfishtaco on Oct 24, 2010 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nonsense

No QB is worth 3 turnovers a game. Period.

Favre has LOST us 3 games this season personally. End of story. NO, Miami, and tonight.

If we go to 2-5, the season’s done, end of story. So we might as well see at that point if T-Jack actually HAS grown as a regular season QB, or if we need to let him go.

by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 24, 2010 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Amen...

… brother. Boy howdy it’s about time to sit Favre down. We can always say it’s his ankle or his elbow or both so that he can save face.

If Favre gets healthy, and Tavaris looks like crap, then we can put him back.

But this is getting absurd.

by HammeroftheGods on Oct 24, 2010 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

let's just go with Webb

Tarvaris clearly hasn’t proven himself in the past

by solafide on Oct 24, 2010 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

T-Jack

is up for a contract. We have to know if we can pay him. Webb is a project, and we know it.

by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 24, 2010 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you joking?

I hope so. I don’t think our guys our going to put it on the line for Joe Webb. He’s just not going to be ready, and T-Jack has started and won.

Webb might be promising but man, I don’t see guys going over the middle to catch passes from Joe Webb.

We’d get absolutely killed with Joe Webb in there. We’ d be crushed. I don’t want to waste a year of outstanding AP on that.

by HammeroftheGods on Oct 24, 2010 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah I do...

… think Tavaris could make some of those throws.

Bottom line, I think in virtually any situation, when your QB is missing throws, and making 3-4 turnovers every game, and most importantly losing, you bench him. Not to mention, he has the ankle and the tendonitis.

This isn’t an ordinary situation, but I say they bench him regardless.

Did you notice how many running plays we had in that game? We were moving the ball on the ground, and Favre still couldn’t get us into the end zone, or complete a decent percentage of passes.

He’s a 16 million dollar hand off guy.

It’s getting beyond absurd.

by HammeroftheGods on Oct 24, 2010 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's gonna happen

Let’s get real, we have made the deal with the devil! We have to hope this ride gets better

by solafide on Oct 24, 2010 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are probably right...

… unless the ankle is particularly bad.

Who knows, maybe the league will suspend him. It could happen, although I kind of doubt it.

by HammeroftheGods on Oct 24, 2010 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes maybe jenn sterger..

…will accomplish what chilly lacks the guts to..

"the following statement is true:
the preceding statement was false" - george carlin

by BranFavrenton on Oct 25, 2010 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

When we're in the "hurry up"

at the end of the game and the only plays we can make yardage on are screens and AD running plays, then no, the QB’s play is ‘not’ acceptable, regardless of the name.

You don’t HOPE things will get better. You tell him “Play within yourself, now. Or you can ride the pine the rest of the way. Streak or no streak.”

by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 24, 2010 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

What if Moss had not needlessly pushed off tht play, and that led to us winning? Would you be saying the same thing?

My point is that you are probably b%+C#%ng more about losing than you are about the play.

by puddnhead on Oct 24, 2010 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

It really didn’t look like Moss needed to push off on that play.

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by blackjackfishtaco on Oct 24, 2010 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

James Lofton

on Westwood One said there was no offensive pass interference on that play.

He also said he thought there WAS defensive pass interference on the Harvin overturn.

by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 24, 2010 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

thought?

They showed the replay like 5 times on NBC, and each time you got to see contact on Harvin before the pass was made.

The ref, standing right there, apparently didn’t want to notice it.

by loldotcom on Oct 25, 2010 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Welcome to Lambeau!!!

Oh and did you happen to notice when the Pack played the Dolphins, how every time there was a field goal attempt by Miami, there was ALWAYS a penalty and every kick was a CAREER record attempt (50 yards or more)??? Hmmmmm? That’s Green Bay refs, baby!!! There’s probably (allegedly) a big ol “G” under those stripes!!! Also it has been said that they possibly have “Go Pack Go” tattooed in secret places (allegedly).

SKOL VIKINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by North Ranger on Oct 25, 2010 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

but Lofton was a GREEN BAY legend. And he thought those were bogus calls the Vikes should’ve got.

Just saying.

by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 25, 2010 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Normally I'd agree.

But honestly tell me how
a) A.Rodgs’ 2nd td pass was not out of bounds,
B) Shank’s td was dissalowed.

by Jepp The Viking on Oct 24, 2010 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Give TJack a shot

He can’t possibly be any worse than Favre has played this season. Plus with TJack in the game, the opposing D is going to have to account for him scrambling if he sees an opening.

by chaoswarriorxiii on Oct 25, 2010 12:13 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

And while you're at it...

please make sure to rip the craptacular O-line who let him get harangued and pressured all night, too, because they’re FAR more to blame than just Favre. And while you’re at it, please threaten the D-line with benching since they’re pretty useless these days, too.

by Wytefang on Oct 25, 2010 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

ok the one thing about this site is that people

Complain about refs too much!!!! SHIT almost every game.

"It’s not arrogance, it’s destiny." -RKO

by Vikant on Oct 24, 2010 11:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I think we’re in shock at some of the TD’s allowed and disallowed tonight

by solafide on Oct 24, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Crap! What happened?? Where am I??

I am in a serious daze after another loss. What happened?? How is that every team we have played up to this point has an amazing lineman that can stop Jared Allen? Why is it that Brett Favre has to run for his life after every snap and Rogers has so much time in the pocket that he could take a nap and a hobby during the game? I’m not about to bad mouth Favre but what is up? Why is it that in order for the Vikings to make a touchdown that have to do it three times!!! What happened? Where was our defense? This game should have been an “in-the-bag win.” I’m not about to give up on my Vikings but I have to admit this becoming a bumpy ride. Rough seas ahead!! Favre limping..NOT GOOD!!! And could MacArthy throw the red flag any more, tonight??? He seems to have great confidence that he will win the argument. TOO confident if you know what I mean. Especially after his team got away with a free given TD. Bottom line, too many interceptions and not enough time to throw the ball. Curse the ghost of Lombardi!!! The Pack pulled another one out of their hind quarters!! I should probably keep it down and not be so loud. Sshhhh, our defense is still sleeping. Lullaby, and goodnight, la la la la la la la…. Not a good night in Purple Land. Oh well. There’s not much I can do about it. THIS is my only outlet. Oh..maybe one good scream wouldn’t hurt…..AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CRAP!!!!

SKOL VIKINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by North Ranger on Oct 24, 2010 11:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Jared Allen

Has one move this year. Rush hard to the outside of the tackle to try to get to the QB. Offensive lineman have figured him out. Clifton did a lot of holding on him tonight too. Go back and watch the Rodgers run late in the game where Allen reaches out to grab him, only to have Clifton throw him to the ground. It was pretty blatant yet there was no flag on the play.

The Vikings D-line hasn’t been getting many holding calls their way this year. I’d say it’s Goodell’s vendetta against them for the Williams wall embarrassing his ass the last couple of years due to the Starcaps issue.

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by BaldViking on Oct 25, 2010 2:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Go back and watch the Rodgers run late in the game where Allen reaches out to grab him, only to have Clifton throw him to the ground. It was pretty blatant yet there was no flag on the play.

That was an acting job. Did you also notice him unnecessarily throw his hands in the air and fall to the ground? As soon as he did it Clifton looked down at him as to say, “Are you serious?”

by packallday555 on Oct 25, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

childress is just plain horrible. terrible coach, just plain horrib,e

Seriously i love the vikes (SKOL!!) but this is adding up….every game in game decisions are just soooo bad! No red flag on the back of the end zone td, what?? NOT GOING for 2 in the 2nd half down 5, WHAT?!! letting the clock run out in the 1st half, WHAT?

12 MEN IN THE HUDDLE WHAT THE FREAK?!! Having to call a timeout the other day when he wasnt sure whether to go for 2 in a similiar postion againt the jets, WHAT WHAT WHAT?

Seriously how can anyone defend thsi DOUCH BAG?! He is the WORST coach in the league and he is coaching my beloved VIKES!!

by los vikingos on Oct 24, 2010 11:44 PM CDT reply actions  

SO FAR A VERY DISAPOINTING SEASON.

Last season we had the very good favre

this year we are getting the below average favre.

Way to many stupid penalties
 
Way to many turnovers .

This team is badly underachieving.

by Bako- on Oct 24, 2010 11:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Are we there yet??

Oh…Stop on a WHAMMY!!

SKOL VIKINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by North Ranger on Oct 24, 2010 11:58 PM CDT reply actions  

The DBs and EJ are standing over Quarles as he bobbles the ball......

They see it. Doesn’t EJ, the captain of the D, have audio in his helmet, so that he can scream his head off that coach needs to challenge??? Is it me or does this seem about as obvious as it comes??? Coaches have to rely on their players to tell them to challenge, especially on the road. Replays are not going to be shown if they go against the home team.

by Mel Allen on Oct 25, 2010 12:03 AM CDT reply actions  

You could not be more right.

Childress needs his ass fired. tomorrow.

by los vikingos on Oct 25, 2010 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Taking away the Vikes' TD was ridiculous

Receiver clearly had possession the whole way down. Harvin was out of bounds, good call. But the first take-away was complete BS. He had the freakin ball. It was a catch in the end zone. Result — TD. But no.

Favre did about all he could do. Great effort, but I think Father Time is finally, finally starting to look his way. He’s still a great QB. But, not quite the Magic Man we all know. As much as it pains me to say it, this year needs to be it.

Still trying to figure out how one guy out of our offense (Rice) completely screwed this team sideways. Chester Taylor is gone too, sure, but Rice’s absence has really proven the difference maker. And what the heck is wrong with Jared Allen!? Did cutting the mullet take away the source of his strength? He’s a completely different player out there this year.

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by LORD KAYOSS on Oct 25, 2010 12:04 AM CDT reply actions  

I was saying this about JA after week one.....

that he excels against backups, injured starters, and broken assignments. I see ZERO creativity or growth in his play. I do see that QBs are not letting him get to them, during those rare moments when he beats a lineman. Lots of dumpoffs and screens. I recall it started during the Carolina game last year, when Moore kept rolling out to his right. Ever since, except for the Cowboy playoff game, squadoosh.

by Mel Allen on Oct 25, 2010 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

L Frazier should be this teams new head coach

Childress needs his ass fired. Period. Now. Yesterday. Pleas god. Please.

by los vikingos on Oct 25, 2010 12:05 AM CDT reply actions  

It's time like this I wish we had just an average QB.

Cleveland can win with Colt McCoy basically not really doing anything.

Favre is basically just holding on for his life at this point, he isn’t doing anything game changing. If our QB was just asked to throw a couple short passes, and then give AP the ball, we’d probably be at at least 4 wins?

I wish TJack was at least average.

by loldotcom on Oct 25, 2010 12:08 AM CDT reply actions  

No amount of complaining is going to change the L to a W

So I’ll take this disappointing loss in stride because I know my Vikings are not done yet, we’re clicking on about five cylinders right now and pretty soon we’ll be hitting on all eight, unlike the rest of our counterparts. we still have a lot upside and potential to reach and when we do, none of these fans from other teams are going to be here gloating on our site.
SKOL VIKINGS!

by nmvikesfan on Oct 25, 2010 12:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Our offense has a pulse finally,

But it flat lined a couple times as Favre whipped the ball on the run while getting hit.

It’s hard to keep optimistic when the same stuff is happening every game.

by loldotcom on Oct 25, 2010 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

True.

You shame us, mnvikesfan. Thank you for keeping perspective. It doesn’t help with my depression, though. This is a tough pill to swallow. It’s the Pack. I hate losing to the Pack! I’ll get through this and recover tomorrow but….the PACK!!! I HATE LOSING TO THE PACK!!!!

SKOL VIKINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by North Ranger on Oct 25, 2010 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

i will believe that..

…only if we somehow beat the pats..no pass rush..no chance..

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by BranFavrenton on Oct 25, 2010 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

IDK who to blame.

Favre and Chilly both looked like shit tonight.

Chilly has proved that he can’t win under pressure, and Favre is proving that if you live by the Favre, you die by the Favre…..3INT’s, lucky it wasn’t 4.

by chaosg on Oct 25, 2010 12:16 AM CDT reply actions  

yeah

I think we gotta remember and just put it in perspective that as hard as this loss was, we’re gonna be okay. I’m not trying to be an eternal optimist or anything, but we are clicking and take those two turnovers by favre away, along with a couple calls our way, and this could have been a 14, 17 point WIN. There’s still 10 games left, with New England one of the hardest games we have left. Green Bay still has to play the jets, a desperate dallas, and the patriots as well. ALSO we can get in as a wild card, as unpreferable as that is. Finally with Rice back, I think things will fall into place. Don’t give up on Favre yet, it’s his last season, and he is gonna be all guts, glory, and heart as the season unwinds. We got him, we might as well have faith in him. SKOL baby, SKOL

by killerk968 on Oct 25, 2010 12:20 AM CDT reply actions  

All of our games have been

take away this INT or that fumble… That was fine the first couple weeks, but at this point, it’s just flat out a problem. We need to not even make those mistakes in the first place.

AP is playing his damn heart out every week. He stopped turning the ball over. He’s a legit factor in our games. But when Favre isn’t even playing above average, it ends up not mattering.

by loldotcom on Oct 25, 2010 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

You are right.

You are right, of course. But……I HATE LOSING TO THE CHEESEHEADS!!!!!!!

SKOL VIKINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by North Ranger on Oct 25, 2010 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Along the way...

..please, then, take away our crap O-line that would allow ANY QB, no matter the skill level or experience level to get harassed and pressured all night. Spread the blame, baby, to where it mostly belongs.

by Wytefang on Oct 25, 2010 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

A QB can eat the ball

rather than throw it to the other team.

There’s no excuse for the parade of turnovers from Favre. No, the o-line has not played well—particularly the right side. But Favre’s ankle means no mobility. He’s not helping anything.

by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 25, 2010 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Our offensive line isn't great and they deserve some of the blame.

But Favre is killing us with rookie QB type mistakes. Take a sack or throw the ball away. I’m not saying Favre is the only problem with our team this year but right now he’s the most notable problem. 10 ints in six games plus a couple of fumbles is just inexcusable.

by CanadianViking on Oct 25, 2010 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

To both of you guys...

the thing is, though, is that you have to start with the source of the problem itself. In this case, that would be a porous O-line that’s just not doing their job (parts of the line, anyway). If that’s fixed, you’d see the Favre we had for much of the first 3/4ths of the year, last year. Yeah, I agree, he needs to stop trying to force things, too, but it really has to start with the crappy O-line. Do your damn jobs, O-line players. And you too, D-line.

by Wytefang on Oct 25, 2010 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't disagree

about the o-line not playing like it should. The right side is useless at the moment, IMHO.

That said, Favre’s lack of mobility is only making things worse. He can’t buy time like he did last year. There’s no room for roll-outs or other options to reduce the pressure on him. In short, he’s a stationary target, and thus a lot easier to hit.

by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 25, 2010 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

It is the same players........

two of which, Hutch and Herrera, are supposed to be better after surgeries to correct injuries they suffered from last year. McKinnie, too, is believed to be in better shape than he was. Loadholt has not, to my knowledge, been hurt at all either year. Is Sullivan the key problem then? Or Hicks not being available to spell the others at times? I lean toward this.

by Mel Allen on Oct 25, 2010 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

it's the 'right' side

getting beat predominantly. Herrera and Loadholt. On the final drive it was Shianco+ Loadholt= back to the 40.

by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 25, 2010 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is a Chicken and Egg kinda argument.

What came first? The bad O-line or the bad Favre? The way I see it our O-line was mediocre last year and is basically the same this year. We’re on pace to give up about the same number of sacks and our running game has improved so I’ve got to put most of the blame on Favre’s poor decision making/health by process of elimination. Just my opinion though and I though our pass protection was a little better tonight with Sullivan back so hopefully the line and Favre start improving cause we’re running out of time.

by CanadianViking on Oct 25, 2010 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mostly true

Our O-line play has been mediocre the last couple seasons. Particularly on the right side, though Hutch is honestly beginning to regress.

That said, Favre’s lack of mobility compared to last season does make this worse. Nonetheless, he’s played long enough to know how to eat the ball or throw it away.

by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 25, 2010 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

I can live with some interceptions, but not the ones where he’s out of the pocket and can throw it away or when he just hucks it blindly to avoid a sack. It’s the decision making that’s bothering me the most as he’s playing like a rookie instead of the veteran that he is.

by CanadianViking on Oct 25, 2010 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Three plays that can change a season

1. The Shiancoe TD tonight- clearly a horrible call. Forget the Moss PI, the Harvin non PI call, which is not reviewable.
2. The run stuff of AD in the Miami game. 99 times out of 100, he scores running left.
3. The overthrow of Percy in the Jet game near the end, which would have set up a go ahead score.

Razor thin, hanging by a thread plays, which could have us at 5-1, in spite of everything else we have witnessed.

by Mel Allen on Oct 25, 2010 12:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Agree

on all but maybe the Moss play at the end of the half. He did have his hands on him, but still, it didn’t look like much at all.

That said, there comes a point where keeping games close to justify losses stops being a relevant escape mechanism. Our record is going to make all this team potential irrelevant when we’re just too far behind to catch up with our division.

Chicago and GB gave us a window to get back into the division, and we just let it go.

by loldotcom on Oct 25, 2010 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, I think

we have the mustache moron for 3 more years.

"Skol pa fiskande"

by NobleSavage on Oct 25, 2010 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

and maybe he would have used the TIME OUTS before the first half ended!

"Skol pa fiskande"

by NobleSavage on Oct 25, 2010 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I doubt that

Honestly, with the way ownership has thrown money at this team, I think Klink is feeling real heat. And he should be. The only thing keeping things beneath “high” right now is the same thing protecting Wade Phillips: the threat of a lockout. There’s no point changing coaches if there’s no football in 11.

by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 25, 2010 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

more accurately

the lack of hair on Klink’s head.

by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 25, 2010 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

correct but..on the verge of winning

equals losing.. most those games shouldnt even have been close at the end, we should have won going away, but way too many slow starts on off and def and repeated heartbreaking turnovers.. even beating dallas we looked bad..

the pattern keeps repeating and unless something changes……..nope not saying it… lets beat the pats in ne and restore some confidence in our season plz!

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by BranFavrenton on Oct 25, 2010 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

no argument

I’ve hated Klink since he walked in the door. The only Vikings coach worse than him in their history was Les Steckel. The only current NFL coaches worse than Klink are Wade Phillips and Tom Cable. I don’t count on him to do anything but get in the way.

by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 25, 2010 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I still believe..

We have a chance to make a run deep into the playoffs. The league all around is just total random. Teams that were hyped up to dominate are just not showing their A game this season (Ex. Browns beating Saints).

But something needs to be addressed with Favre’s turnovers this season thus far. All the fumbles and INT’s he has contributed is getting out of hand. Everyone around the league just couldn’t wait to watch AP fumble his mind out but hasn’t put the ball on the turf once.

by Vikings- on Oct 25, 2010 12:32 AM CDT reply actions  

New Orleans is baffling. Sure they might be overrated but who would have expected Brees to play as poorly as he has!?! Losses to the Cardinals and Browns are inexplicable!

by TrevorR on Oct 25, 2010 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

does anybody

know when rice is coming back? I remember ppl saying he was aiming for a halloween return..

by killerk968 on Oct 25, 2010 12:34 AM CDT reply actions  

Not totally sure.

They said he would maybe be able to run by this or next week.

We have until Nov 9th to bring him off PUP I believe? And then until week 13 to activate him, or place him on IR.

Something to that effect. In essence, not for a while, and of course by then, our season could be a total wash anyhow.

by loldotcom on Oct 25, 2010 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

TSSC was right in what he said earlier

Take a look at the NFC right now. . .

Division leaders. . .

Atlanta – 5-2
Giants – 4-2
Seahawks – 4-2
Packers/Bears – 4-3

Everyone else. . .

Bucs – 4-2
Redskins – 4-3
Saints – 4-3
Eagles – 4-3
Cardinals – 3-3
Rams – 3-4
Vikings – 2-4
Dallas – 1-4
Panthers – 1-5
Lions – 1-5
Niners – 1-6

The NFC doesn’t have a dominant team right now. Nobody is going to run away and hide from everyone else this year.

Even in the division. . .seriously, is anyone THAT afraid of the Packers? Is anyone THAT afraid of the Bears? If you are, you shouldn’t be.

We’re not that far behind anybody. And this team is too talented to stay behind most of the teams they’re behind now.

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by Christopher Gates on Oct 25, 2010 12:38 AM CDT reply actions  

I agree...

If Klink can get something close to value from the talent (and he hasn’t so far).

And if Favre stops playing like a walking turnover.

Frankly, at this point, I don’t see the 2nd happening. He’s too distracted and panicked, and his ankle has robbed him of any meaningful mobility.

by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 25, 2010 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

There are lots of EVERYONE ELSEs to

leap over. Our best shot is to win the division, period. A wild card would be a waste of all of our time, sorry to say. But, you do know what the definition of an optimist is, eh? Someone who doesn’t have all the facts.

by Mel Allen on Oct 25, 2010 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

too many permutations are starting to go against us. We need to win the division.

by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 25, 2010 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Possible, but the window is closing.

A win next week (tougher than tonight unfortunately), and a Pack loss (very probable) means we’re only a game behind both GB & CHI.

Then we get Arizona at home, which should be a confidence booster and a win, while the Pack get Dallas (hopefully they show up to play?) and the Bears get a surprisingly resilient Buffalo.

That all leads us into the make or break portion of our season, CHI and GB back to back.

After that benchmark, we should have a better grasp on if our season is a bust, and if we should rush Rice back to play / start TJack.

by loldotcom on Oct 25, 2010 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well said

A good take, even if it’s a bit tricky. I’m far less confident about the Patriots game than this Packers game, though, so I’m not expecting much. Maybe they’ll surprise us, who knows?

Barring a pretty big turnaround, I think we might be in trouble, though. Hard to fix both an O-line AND a D-line this far into the season. :(

by Wytefang on Oct 25, 2010 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Pats are my secondary team.

Or AFC team if you will.

They’ve been skating by just BARELY the last couple games. Brady isn’t exactly lighting it up with his current team of rag tag WRs. And the main reason they were in today’s game was because of SD’s inept play :P

Still, I think they’re better than GB, but with the way we’ve been playing, and improving, I don’t see it out of reach.

by loldotcom on Oct 25, 2010 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is anyone afraid of the Vikings?

by TrevorR on Oct 25, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry but geez…its okay to be behind your team but man when you are 2-4 and still disrespecting so many other teams that have outplayed your team, its pretty lame.

by TrevorR on Oct 25, 2010 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Last season the Packers spent all season behind us

Didn’t stop their fans from disrespecting the Vikings all season and all post-season and all off-season, did it now?

No, of course it didn’t.

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by Christopher Gates on Oct 25, 2010 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

wasn’t me…maybe some did though. When my team got beat, I put my tail between my legs and gave them their earned credit. That said, I don’t think the Packers are going to turn it around and run away with it…I just don’t see the Vikings playing well enough to be a huge factor either. The division could still be the Vikings but they really have to play better than they have been.

by TrevorR on Oct 25, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

if all the right call were made the Packers would have lost, even despite Favre’s horrible INT’s

by solafide on Oct 25, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lol who did this? You say “fans” as if it was our ENTIRE fan base doing this or something. MANY of the Packers fans who come over to this blog admitted multiple times that you guys were just simply the better team.

You seem to generalize things quite a bit. The Saints fans were bad to you guys, which automatically meant the “entire city of New Orleans” was garbage, or a terrible place.

by packallday555 on Oct 25, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who cares?

They may or may not be.

But we know full well that nobody’s scared of the Bears or the Packers.

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by Christopher Gates on Oct 25, 2010 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe they should be…

All I knwo is the packers are 4-3 and with all THREE loses by last minute FGs they could have a much better record right now. AND they just beat your team…

by TrevorR on Oct 25, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good for them

They should. . .after all, they’ve been given a bye to the Super Bowl by everyone in America since about July.

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by Christopher Gates on Oct 25, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Including, apparently

The National Football League officials.

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by Christopher Gates on Oct 25, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

OH waaaaah the refs waaaah. Hey the refs had PLENTY of blown calls going the other way too. Mathews was held repeatedly and lets not forget about the “late hit” on Nick Collins that set up the Shiancoe “TD” that never would have happened if not for the legal hit ON THE FIELD that Collins had on Harvin. Give me a break…the refs. You lost cause your QB threw too many picks. PERIOD.

by TrevorR on Oct 25, 2010 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

And because the officiating sucked balls

Can’t wait for the rematch. . .without that level of home cooking going your way, your team is screwed.

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by Christopher Gates on Oct 25, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Greenbay cheated for a TD! and Minnesota got robbed of a TD! Fact

by solafide on Oct 25, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

And because our offensive line absolutely shut down their defensive line.

by packallday555 on Oct 25, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

and the vikes were also close in all games..

…could be 6-0

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by BranFavrenton on Oct 25, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

But that's different

Because they’re not the Packers, see.

The same close losses that make the Packers awesome just mean that the Vikings suck.

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by Christopher Gates on Oct 25, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

well you lost by 9 to the Jets…so that wasn’t a last minute loss. Actually looking at the games, I don’t see any of them that were lost on FGs with the clock running out or in OT. But yeah, lots of close losses too so I get that…

by TrevorR on Oct 25, 2010 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

they were lost on the final drive, more points because of pick 6’s etc… don’t pretend like you actually know something about the Vikings, go back to ACME!

by solafide on Oct 25, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

amen..

..how many times can a troll post the same thing over and over in the same thread? apparently about 137 and counting..

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by BranFavrenton on Oct 25, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's not worth it

Take the pledge, like I have. No more drinking from that well. Just walk on by.

by puddnhead on Oct 25, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was a 2 point game in the final minutes.

The game may have looked closer on paper if it were 20-22, if the INT would have just been downed instead of brought back for a TD, but in reality, it was just as close.

by loldotcom on Oct 25, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

OK, I' m saying it right now!

Brett Favre needs to be benched RIGHT NOW! I can not stand another game watching him throw a pick and then limp off the field. Our season is almost toast. Might as well give the other guys a chance. This season sucks so bad. Brett does not have it anymore. Doesn’t anyone elese see this? The owners made a mistake, just eat ti and move on.

"Skol pa fiskande"

by NobleSavage on Oct 25, 2010 1:07 AM CDT reply actions  

nope

more than you are saying it.

I’d honestly read Favre the riot act and give him next week to save his job. If he can’t, it’s T-Jack.

by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 25, 2010 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Unlikely QBs with a better rating than Favre:

Ryan Fitzpatrick (2nd in nfl lol?)
Vince Young
Matt Cassel
Seneca Wallace
David Garrard
Jay Cutler
Josh Freeman
Shaun Hill
Matt Hasselbeck
Alex Smith
Jason Campbell
Sam Bradford
Bruce Gradkowski

Favre is just above Derek Anderson, Matt Moore and Jimmy Clausen.

I’m a huge #4 supporter… but c’mon.

by loldotcom on Oct 25, 2010 1:08 AM CDT reply actions  

Those three guys need to go back to his house

And get him to quit.

The Colorado Rockies aren't a team, they're an armada.

by free7694 on Oct 25, 2010 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you made the point about as clearly as possible with that list.

Last year was arguably Favre’s best statistical season and this year is on pace to be his worst statistical season. I think it’s time for a change.

by CanadianViking on Oct 25, 2010 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

and a lot of QB's

on that list are getting hit as much, if not more than, #4.

Cassel gets pounded, amazing for a team with an awesome run-blocking line. Garrard, Cutler (of course), Smith takes a lot of shots too.

by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 25, 2010 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

So which of those better QBs is available?

Just sayin’ :)

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Oct 25, 2010 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Many of those

could probably be traded for, since they’re hardly franchise QBs.

Heck, quite a few of those weren’t even on their current team last year.

I just want a QB who’s headlines for each post-game report isn’t “[player here] lost tonight, and threw for [x] Interceptions”.

by loldotcom on Oct 25, 2010 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can not stand

an ex-Packer QB bring us down. This has got to end NOW!

"Skol pa fiskande"

by NobleSavage on Oct 25, 2010 1:13 AM CDT reply actions  

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!

Brett Favre will be back in 2010, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLV, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre in 2011 is inevitable!

by REVENGE4FAVRE on Oct 25, 2010 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

NobleSavage...............................

Please get a clue!

Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!

Brett Favre will be back in 2010, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLV, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre in 2011 is inevitable!

by REVENGE4FAVRE on Oct 25, 2010 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Brett is done.

Can’t you see it?

"Skol pa fiskande"

by NobleSavage on Oct 25, 2010 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

NO

Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!

Brett Favre will be back in 2010, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLV, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre in 2011 is inevitable!

by REVENGE4FAVRE on Oct 25, 2010 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

he may not be 'done'

But he shouldn’t have come back this season. Not after waiting until training camp to get his ankle operated on and then having no timing.

He believed his own legend. His mistake and we’re paying for it.

by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 25, 2010 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I appreciate all you have done since defecting to the Vikes

but to continue supporting a QB that performed so horribly makes me feel that you are not truly a Viking fan, but only a Favre fan. There needs to be a change RIGHT NOW while we still have hope for a season.

"Skol pa fiskande"

by NobleSavage on Oct 25, 2010 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bullshit!

Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!

Brett Favre will be back in 2010, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLV, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre in 2011 is inevitable!

by REVENGE4FAVRE on Oct 25, 2010 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

OK

Please let me eat my words.

"Skol pa fiskande"

by NobleSavage on Oct 25, 2010 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why don't u blame the appropriate pperson............

Childress!

Play Calling………………………………………..

No Killer Instinct!

Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!

Brett Favre will be back in 2010, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLV, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre in 2011 is inevitable!

by REVENGE4FAVRE on Oct 25, 2010 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

U R A Hater!

Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!

Brett Favre will be back in 2010, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLV, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre in 2011 is inevitable!

by REVENGE4FAVRE on Oct 25, 2010 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just can see when a guy doesn't have it anymore

And Brett Favre doesn’t have it anymore.

The Colorado Rockies aren't a team, they're an armada.

by free7694 on Oct 25, 2010 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

You will eat those words....................

I GUARANTEE IT!

Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!

Brett Favre will be back in 2010, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLV, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre in 2011 is inevitable!

by REVENGE4FAVRE on Oct 25, 2010 1:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll be happy to do so if he proves me wrong

But he’s done

The Colorado Rockies aren't a team, they're an armada.

by free7694 on Oct 25, 2010 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is anyone else

tired of hearing this Favre hype? I have been a Viking fan since their inception and I am very tired of it.

"Skol pa fiskande"

by NobleSavage on Oct 25, 2010 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

No...................

calm down

Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!

Brett Favre will be back in 2010, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLV, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre in 2011 is inevitable!

by REVENGE4FAVRE on Oct 25, 2010 1:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have put a lot of the blame for this loss on our moronic coach.

This needs too change as well, if the Vikes are to be sucessful.

"Skol pa fiskande"

by NobleSavage on Oct 25, 2010 1:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

He’s not done. He’s just not playing out of his mind like he did last season. It’s not like he played that well in every one of his seasons in the NFL or something. He had other great years sure, but he also had other bad years. Too think that he could/would play at that same level again this season just isn’t realistic.

Puddnhead said it multiple times before the season started, and said it much better than I did hear. Didn’t really seem like people listened to him.

by packallday555 on Oct 25, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

He IS done.

As long as he plays hurt, he will continue to hurt the Vikings, just like he did with the Jets and the Packers.

"Skol pa fiskande"

by NobleSavage on Oct 25, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed.

in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.

by jethrophet on Oct 25, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even if we go to 2-5 next week...

…our next opponents are Arizona, Chicago, Green Bay, and Washington, then back-to-back-to-back home games against Buffalo, the Giants, and Chicago again. There’s some serious roll potential there; the team had its moments today, and if they play like that against most teams, minus a turnover/plus better luck with the officiating, and we could easily be looking at 8-6. Hell, 8-8 might win the North this year.

(As for the refs: meh, shit happens. Yeah, they blew the call on Sciancoe’s TD—but for Green Bay’s second TD, it was up to Childress to fix their mistake, and considering he’s thrown the challenge flag under WAY more dubious circumstances I think that one’s on him. The one that got me was the phantom offensive pass interference on Moss. We get the ball deep in Packer territory, maybe go up 24-14 coming into the half…totally different game. Anyway. Roll on New England.)

by NWOntario on Oct 25, 2010 1:16 AM CDT reply actions  

Brett is done. Can’t you see it?

"Skol pa fiskande"

by NobleSavage on Oct 25, 2010 1:16 AM CDT reply actions  

You are on crack

Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!

Brett Favre will be back in 2010, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLV, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre in 2011 is inevitable!

by REVENGE4FAVRE on Oct 25, 2010 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

No you are on KOOL-AID

The guy is AVERAGING 3 turnovers a game. A lot of teams have bad O-Lines (and they don’t have running backs like AD to keep the defense honest), and those teams QBs are not turning it over like Favre is, unless they suck (which Favre does now).

He’s not making many big plays, most of the big passes are awesome catch-and-runs by Harvin or Peterson. The guy is a Hall of Famer, but he’s washed up now for sure.

by Ace991 on Oct 25, 2010 1:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

I will be taking names and documenting all traders!

Ace991…………………….

You must like eating crow, cause u sure will be by season’s end!

Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!

Brett Favre will be back in 2010, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLV, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre in 2011 is inevitable!

by REVENGE4FAVRE on Oct 25, 2010 1:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Put me on the list too R4F…I want to be on the official record.

YOu might want to add the entire morning show on KFAN too.

by TrevorR on Oct 25, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

He’s looked bad. But I actually saw a lot of positive things happening that I hadn’t seen in previous games. Unfortunately, yes, I also saw negative things.

Call me insane, but after game yesterday I actually see more upside to the offense than I have seen all year. What actually bummed me more was that our defensive line continues to underperform what I expect of them both vs. run & in pash rush.

Don’t get me wrong, the defense still looks better than the offense. It’s just that I actually see improvement on offense, fixable things, but I see stagnation on defense.

by puddnhead on Oct 25, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's not done!

Life-long Viking fan here. Yes while Favre threw three bad picks, you’re all forgetting those two passes; one to Shank (that was a TD) and the one to Percy (that clearly wasn’t), but they were perfectly thrown passes in the back of the end-zone. He also made multiple good passes throughout the game, it just happens the bad throws were REALLY bad. I’m not giving up on him as I see him as our only chance to win-out the season. Anybody here that thinks T-Jack can take this team to the promised land is smoking crack!

"Skol Vikings! Let's win this game Skol Vikings!

by DaRange on Oct 25, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Right now Favre can't lead the team across the street.

Three interceptions is not a “oh well, he did ok other than that” issue. And let’s be clear, he’s been making three turnovers a game, EVERY game, all season. It’s unacceptable for a quarterback at any competitive level.

I’m amazed at all the people who wanted to hang AD for his fumbles last season, never mind the Vikes lost no more of them then they did Favre’s INTs, but now they want to act like Favre hasn’t personally lost this team 3 games.

I said it before: If I were the coach, I’d call Favre in today, read him the riot act, and tell him if this happens again, he can kiss his streak and his ego good bye, because he’d be third string as fast as I could write, “Coach’s Decision.”

by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 25, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haha Jesus you can’t be serious. If you’re going to complain about holdings lets talk about all the ones they missed on Matthews and Raji. Give our line the credit they DESERVE. Clifton manhandled Allen. So much so, that every so often Allen wouldn’t even rush the passer. Instead he’d just try and time Rodgers throw and tip it at the line. Edwards did the same thing against Buluga .

by packallday555 on Oct 25, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Disaster...

While fans of the Purple will hold out “hope”, that we can turn it around, in reality we witnessed the end. Favre, physically is falling apart before our eyes, and the off field issues don’t help a bit. Brad Childress is demonstrating that he quite honestly has lost the control and respect of the team, and the fan base. Favre has often shown he is erratic. He is playing for pride…and honestly his decision making in horrible. Another pathetic offensice game plan, and while some commentators are accusing Childress for throwing Favre under the bus….I say…it’s true. Allowing three players to head to Mississippi and bring this drama queen back, will prove the end of his tenure as Head Coach, I for one hope that the ownership makes a strong pitch to bring Cowher, Billick, or Grudem, and make an offer to Michael Vick next year. With the talent this team ha..stop blaming ref’s, this team is in disarray.

by stratman on Oct 25, 2010 2:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Childress and his system, system, system......

he is an enigma wrapped in a paradoxical state of confusion. Let’s grant him the benefit of the doubt that his is a KAO system, where all you need to do is plug in certain individuals that will make it go, which could explain why he has the affinity for TJack that he does. Why then, does he do whatever it takes to get Favre back for this season? It doesn’t add up. Or, does it speak more to the fact that his “system,” while it may look great on paper or the chalkboard, doesn’t translate into success on the playing field? And, in his gut, he knows he needs a player like Favre, with the streetballer mentality to bail him out? But, when he does bail him out, i.e., San Fran, Baltimore, or Detroit last year, he considers benching him for going outside of the system, even though they won the games. And now, with the team losing games, granted by a razor’s edge margin, Childress summons up the cajones to dump on Favre to the press. Can someone tell me when he has actually supported Favre? I only remember the opposite, the most glaring story coming last year after the Carolina game, when Favre dared to go to the press after the game to say that he had a disagreement with Chills about coming out of the game. I recall doors being slammed and closed doors bitch sessions led by Childress. I cannot recall much in terms of public support for him, ever.

by Mel Allen on Oct 25, 2010 3:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Packer fan here

Just wanted to say good game. Well, could have been better. The refs certainly sucked for both teams. Missed calls on both sides. It sucks, but life goes on. We’ll see you guys next month in Minnesota.

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-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Oct 25, 2010 5:27 AM CDT reply actions  

For every terrible call against the Vikings there was one for the Packers. The Shiancoe TD would have never been an option if not for the AWFUL late hit call on the sidelines the play before. Heck that FG probably never would have happened.

by TrevorR on Oct 25, 2010 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

rubbish

BOTH announcers on Westwood said it was a clear late hit…again, that means James Lofton, who would’ve been-if anything-inclined to side WITH the Packers.

by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 25, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Definitely not a late hit

The guy had not set one foot out of bounds yet when they pushed him, the replay clearly showed it. The fact that Harvin fell so far towards the benches was why they called penalty. But it was perfectly clean.

by David G on Oct 25, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

The PACKER

said it was too. Spare me. And as noted, he had the 1st down ‘before’ the penalty.

by Shawn Gillogly on Oct 25, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

actually, i think he is right. it was a ticky-tacky call.

by puddnhead on Oct 25, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

It Was A Gray Area Call

Yes, he hit him while he was still in bounds. The problem was that he continued with the contact when they were well out of bounds, hence the flag.

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by BaldViking on Oct 25, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

No…that isn’t the rule. Contact was made in bounds and their contact carried them both out of bounds but it was 100% legal and what he HAD to do or Harvin would have turned it up field for a TD. If you can’t see that one you need to take off your purple glasses.

by TrevorR on Oct 25, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure Harvin was running out of bounds. It would have taken a sick turn for him to turn upfield

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by blackjackfishtaco on Oct 25, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah it might have been…but its not like he couldn’t have juked back in or something. As long as a player is ON the field you have to make the tackle

Watch this one at 1:20…you could argue that he was heading toward the sideline there too, yet he LEAPED for that TD. You have to make the hit when they are on the field of play.
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010102412/2010/REG7/vikings@packers#tab:watch

by TrevorR on Oct 25, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Listen,

I’m a VT fan and we got jobbed against BSU on a VERY similar play. While watching the game last night, I told my girlfriend it was a bad call and cited the VT-BSU game as precedent. The only reason the refs call it is because they feel the runner is making clear his intent to get out of bounds. Ergo, he doesn’t need to be tackled. I don’t agree with it, but a simple push out would also have done the job.

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by blackjackfishtaco on Oct 25, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who cares what somebody says. How about you actually go and watch the play again. The froze the picture as soon as Collins hands were on Harvin, and at that time he was actually in bounds. That was a BS call.

by packallday555 on Oct 25, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

serious…like Lofton gives a flying crap about a team he played for like 25 years ago anyway. He’s got a pro career as an announcer now…its not like Lofton is some GB rube that is visiting the team all the time or something.

by TrevorR on Oct 25, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

YOu need to actually WATCH the game before you comment man. This makes you sound kinda dumb.

by TrevorR on Oct 25, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

We had a first down regardless of the late hit call.

So it wasn’t like we didn’t have the ball in Packer territory with a first down. It wasn’t a game changing call, like Shanks reversed TD.

by bf4mvp on Oct 25, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah at the 40, out of FG range and WAY out of Shiancoe TD range. It changed that drive. Your whiney Shiancoe call NEVER happens without that BS penalty.

by TrevorR on Oct 25, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Want some more bad officiating going the other way?
- Jennings curl route where he caught it a yard past the first down only to have it marked 1 yard short
- Next play, Kuhn gets the 4th down run and ends up getting over the line but the refs said the play was dead despite no whistles.
- Keep in mind, McCarthy had to use THREE challenges to reverse BAD calls and on top of that there was the Harvin catch taht was a booth review.

Great highlights:
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010102412/2010/REG7/vikings@packers#tab:watch

by TrevorR on Oct 25, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are so wrong it is not even funny.

-Jennings VOLUNTARILY went back to make the catch and move, thus there is no such thing as forward progress. If he had been driven back against his will then you would have had an argument.

- Kuhn has his progress stopped and the refs blew the play dead. Only then did he fall forward. I guess you want to keep NFL plays alive for 10 seconds when the guy is stuffed. Lets see the injuries pile up then..

-Shank’s was a TD so that challenge shouldn’t have been won. Over.

by Jepp The Viking on Oct 25, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

thanks

looking forward to the rematch. We’ll need that one, hopefully home field will make the difference for us, as I think it made for you. Until then!

by puddnhead on Oct 25, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was a good game. Heck either team could have pulled it off…the tension was great. Happy my team took this one but man Favre had me sweating.

by TrevorR on Oct 25, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I said after week 3 that we’re not going to playoffs if Favre keeps averaging 3 turnovers a game.

by skipfreely on Oct 25, 2010 7:14 AM CDT reply actions  

d-line..

..please someone w/ supreme insight explain how our highly talented d-line can be so great last year, and near the bottom this year as far as sacks are concerned?..

and its not just JA, but the whole line..hardly ever any qb pressure except for the occasional blitz that actually works..

i dug up 2009 sack totals thru the first 6 games to compare:

2009 – EJ-1; Leber-1.5; Edwards 1.5; Kennedy 2; KWill-4; JA-7.5; Robi-1.5 = 19 total
2010 – Edwards 1.5; Kennedy 0.5; JA 1.0; Robi 1.0; Mitchell 1.0 KWill 1.0 = 6 total

less than a third of last years sack output thru 6 games.. same lineup..

this bugs me..

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the preceding statement was false" - george carlin

by BranFavrenton on Oct 25, 2010 8:54 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't think anyone can really explain it.

Although, we’ve been in the top 10 for pass defense, and about the same for run defense.

They’ve been keeping us in games collectively as a defense. That’s about all you can ask for.

by loldotcom on Oct 25, 2010 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think the improved secondary and LB's mask the prob

..i see some improvement in our db and lb play.. that is keeping us in games.. also run D is holding its own, though no longer as immovable as in the past..

i think these serve to mask the lack of qb pressure, and thus not getting the scrutiny it deserves..

unless it can be shown that somehow we are actually dropping d-line back into short passing coverage a lot or something like that… but i dont think we are primarily doing that..

next week brady having all day in the pocket just doesn’t bode well, imo

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by BranFavrenton on Oct 25, 2010 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's The Holds

I’ve been saying this all season:

The offensive lineman are getting away with some huge holds on our D-Line. Once again, I think this is a calculated move on the part of the NFL and their officiating crews due to the NFL’s big fail on the Williams and the Starcaps issue. They can’t get them suspended, so they’ll let offensive lineman get by with murder against our D-Line. It’s a travesty and it reeks of the same kind of retaliatory bullshit that is reminiscent of Junior High girls.

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by BaldViking on Oct 25, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

After reading these posts all I can think of is “Cry me a river”

by RedWingGuy on Oct 25, 2010 9:04 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

At some point...

You will have to consider the fact that the Vikings had their chance, and it was last year.

The magic is gone.

Even if Minnesota beats the odds and makes the playoffs, unless Favre’s ankle, elbow, shoulder, whatever gets healed, and more importantly, he gets his head straight, the Vikings aren’t playing football capable of winning in the playoffs.

Their two wins have come against teams with a (as of now) combined total of two wins. They lost to flawed Miami, New Orleans, and Green Bay teams, and a good Jets team. Last year’s Vikings beat three, if not all four of those teams. This is just not the year.

It bears repeating – the magic is gone.

I had forgotten what it felt like to be a Vikings fan. Now I remember. I think a text my dad sent me right after the game pretty much sums it up – “They’ll break your heart every time.”

Skol Vikings!
Woot Woot!

by Manimal on Oct 25, 2010 9:18 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

the magic may still develop, it’s just sucks for the Refs to take such a massive dump on us like they did. I still believe, TJack will take over become the anointed Saviour, lead us to the SB, where Favre will take the last snap and retire!

by solafide on Oct 25, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

i'll take that!

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the preceding statement was false" - george carlin

by BranFavrenton on Oct 25, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

if only it would happen

by solafide on Oct 25, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

TJack had a decent end of 2008 run.

He just tried to do too much, and ended up coughing up the ball when he tried to run. AP also had a bunch of cough-ups as well.

I think with AP running better than last year, and a much better set of WRs than 2008, he could at least pull off an average outting each week, which would be above Favre’s performances.

But we all know he won’t come in :P

by loldotcom on Oct 25, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

This may be true

But let’s still go ahead and play the rest of the games, just in case, ok?

by puddnhead on Oct 25, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

How do they not challenge the Quarless TD?

Your coach should be fired for that play alone. Egregious.

by David G on Oct 25, 2010 10:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Better question

How is it even ruled a TD if the ref didn’t see the play to begin with?

by loldotcom on Oct 25, 2010 10:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Well that guy was only watching for possession on the play

You could see him look only at the ball as Percy caught it. He then missed the part where Peprah pushed him before Harvin caught the ball.

by loldotcom on Oct 25, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's not a better question, though

Refs make mistakes all the time. Childress sees them hurrying to kick the xtra point, at least call a timeout and have a look at it. Their guys upstairs are to blame too, but Childress seems to be lacking in these situations. Instead he wants to throw Favre under the bus in the postgame, when could have saved his team some points by challenging that play.

by David G on Oct 25, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with you

The lack of a challenge on that play or even a timeout to buy us more time to review the tape was a breakdown by Chilly..plain and simple. Other than the kneel down at the end of the first half, I’ll go against the majority here and say Beville and Chilly called a decent game.

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by DaRange on Oct 25, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Chin up fellas

Look, we beat New England next week (no easy task to be sure) – I think we’ll be ok . The Whack goes to the Jets next week where they lose ( sad as I am to see the Jets win.) The Pack also faces the Pats, Dallas, Atlanta, the Giants, and us again at home, where we kick their ass. If our Offensive and Defensive line would eat some damn Flintstones during the week and catch some fire, that would be helpful. The Bears just plain suck so we’ll catch them. New England will be tough but the next five games after that are very winnable. I think next week if, during the coin flip Moss reaches over and musses up Brady’s hair we’ll be in good shape! In all seriousness , this season is FAR from over! SKOL VIKINGS! Never Give up!

by abba7 on Oct 25, 2010 11:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Favre & Childress

Did anyone notice the look of disgust on either of Favre’s or Moss’s face prior to the ending of the 1st half? Gotta side with them on this one vs. Childress. You NEVER show sign of weaknesss when you still have time to score points. On all this other stuff between them, the bottom line is that Childress (like it or not) should have full authority over his team. Frankly, Favre should have been benched 2-3 games ago. He is not performing to the caliber of a first string Quarterback ….on any team!

All I know is that this team is splintered as far as confidence and attitude. THEY ARE NOT ON THE SAME PAGE………..but they better get there quick if they have any hopes of salvaging their season.

by jjlovesfootball on Oct 25, 2010 11:37 AM CDT reply actions  

it was moss. chilly explained his thought process in his postgame presser on this, fyi. It was late & i was tired & a little hard for me to follow, so I refer you to vikings.com to watch for yourself, instead of me trying to regurgitate it.

I think the “disgust” is that we didn’t try to take a shot with time still on the clock, though. I’m not sure what that has to do with chilly having or not having authority. seemed like he had authority there (he said not to run a play, and everyone obeyed, even though some clearly disagreed).

by puddnhead on Oct 25, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

You guys have the right to bitch about the refs

God knows us Lions fans do. I came over to see how the fans are doing, because the Vikings are surprisingly not living up to the billing this year. I have put up some posts, not trolling, just food for thought for you guys.

The Shianco TD IMO was marginal, I explained above. The no call on Clay Matthews was stupid though, that absolutely was a no call there.

I think for a long time you guys must have been fortunate, because the officiating this year seems to have gone stupid. Usually you guys get those calls, the phantom holding on Raiola in the Lions game is an example. The call Suh got for touching the top of Favres helmet.

The problem with a lot of these calls is that they are not consistent across the NFL. I see guys touch Shaun Hills helmet or tackle him below the knees and there is no call, yet if it happens to a Favre, Brady, or Manning its a call. I see Charles Woodson get away with PI almost every week. But he is so hyped up he gets the benefit of the doubt.

On the Lions site some argue that we have to win to earn the calls. IMO that is not a factor though. Much like the NBA I do see the reputation calls or non calls based on a players renown. I also see home teams get an advantage in officiating a lot of times. I think the fact that you were in Lambeau had more to do with it than anything.

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by Evilsmurf on Oct 25, 2010 11:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Kuhn wasn’t down because he was on top of a player. There’s no way for him to go down. His forward progress was stopped. He was not “moving the pile.” In fact, on the next Vikes possession, AP showed Kuhn how to move the pile.

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by blackjackfishtaco on Oct 25, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

He kept moving, he was not down. He moved through the pile.

And yes, Peterson is better than Kuhn. I admit it. Wow, really went out on a limb there, blackjack.

by OffBrandWisconsin on Oct 25, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Moving?

You mean flopping around like a fish when the play was already called dead and the defense stopped moving on the play.

by loldotcom on Oct 25, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Boom.

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by blackjackfishtaco on Oct 25, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like Kuhn. He seems to work his ass off every play…and he’s from Ship. But still, it was plainly obvious his forward progress was stopped. He only moved forward because the whistle had blown and players started getting up.

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by blackjackfishtaco on Oct 25, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also, I was merely stating AP was still moving the pile, which is why his run wasn’t called dead. Kuhn was not. He has the ability to; IIRC, he moved the pile extremely well during one run against the Redskins.

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by blackjackfishtaco on Oct 25, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

You Don't Have A Clue

Why don’t you go celebrate this empty, meaningless victory on a Packers board. The fact is, we lost two potential touchdowns due to shitty calls. The Packers did not.

See you chumps on Nov. 21st.

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by BaldViking on Oct 25, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Meaningless? You guys got worked. Your coach and star QB are feuding, you’re 2-4 when you let yourselves believe that you were destined for glory.

by OffBrandWisconsin on Oct 25, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

So what exactly are you doing over here ?

besides acting like a classless piece of shit ?……..Troll

by chaosg on Oct 25, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

funny

 that’s what the medias been doing to the packers since preseason

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by Vikant on Oct 26, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Very well said actually. There were bad calls that went both ways!

Though I understand the Kuhn play. His forward progress was stopped.

I forgot about the obvious pick play. Woodson even fell down, though it looked look an acting job too me.

by packallday555 on Oct 25, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Riiiiiiiiiight.

DON’T WHINE ABOUT THE REFS! LET ME WHINE ABOUT THEM! Good job on recruiting some pack trolls to reck your post btw. I effing hate everything that has to do with Wisconsin.

by Jepp The Viking on Oct 25, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please

“I think that you have got to be the most insufferable, entitled fans in the league.”

We’re not even the most insufferable, entitled fans involved in this conversation.

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by Christopher Gates on Oct 25, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously

How could people who voluntarily follow a team that’s never won a Super Bowl, and probably never will in their lifetime, and which has imploded in every way imaginable when on rare occasion it’s set up to win the big one, possibly be called “entitled?”

Vikings fans are the third most “entitled” fanbase in the NFC North alone. They’re much better described as “long-suffering.” Or “hopeless.” Or “insane.”

by MCA1 on Oct 25, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude, we're on the same side

Please put the guns down and re-read my post within the proper context. It was written by a fatalistic/pessimistic Vikes fan helping Christopher Gates pile onto the person making the utterly ridiculous assertion that Vikings fans are “the most insufferable, entitled fans in the league.” The end of it was (slightly) tongue-in-cheek.

Perhaps I need to post here more so I have a known identity – sorry if it was unclear I’m a Vikes fan.

by MCA1 on Oct 25, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol, sorry Dude. :)

Them Packer Trolls got me all fired up. :)

by chaosg on Oct 25, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

He meant to post that on the Cowboys site.

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by blackjackfishtaco on Oct 25, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've had a day to think about this...

And while the loss still stings, I’m not nearly as bitter as I was last night. It would be easy to blame the refs considering the Quarless TD (PSU represent) and Shank TD. It’s easy to blame Favre for his 3 picks and general questionable decision making. It’s easy to blame both lines for not generating pressure on defense and not preventing pressure on offense.

But not one of those things by itself contributes entirely to the loss. Yes, Quarless’s TD was questionable (especially since no one understands what a reception is anymore), but Childress didn’t exactly rush to challenge the play. I can’t even comment on Shank’s TD because, again, no one understands what a reception is anymore. Still, he was led a bit too much.

The lines did not do their jobs. At all. Rodgers had plenty of time to write his will before passing. Luckily, he and his receivers do not appear to know each other (how many balls were air mailed or thrown to the wrong location?) or else the score could have been much worse. Jared Allen and Ray Edwards made Clifton and Bulaga look good all night.

The point is, the Vikings had a lot of things go against them last night, whether it be Brett’s decision making (take a sack or throw the ball away, please), Chilly’s inability to grab a red flag, or officiating. But you also have to consider that there were penalties that weren’t called against the Vikes. I won’t go over those because the Packers fans have discussed those ad nauseum. Simply, we need to find a better way to contain Matthews next time, as in not expecting Aircraft Loadholt to block him by himself.

Good teams overcome these problems.

What do we need to see the rest of the season?
1) better communication between Favre and Childress
2) better decision making from Favre
3) the D line either needs to generate pressure or bat more balls down
4) the O line needs to do…a lot better
Most importantly,
5) get the ball to Peterson, Harvin, and Moss. I don’t care how you do it, just do it.

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by blackjackfishtaco on Oct 25, 2010 1:00 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Very true..

Brett doesn’t feel comfortable sitting in the pocket waiting for a play to develop. His throws are generally quick and he still gets rushed & touched.

Keep in mind, a lot of his interceptions happen while he is either getting hit, about to get hit, or just a tipped ball. If we gave Favre all day to throw a ball, LOOK-OUT defenses!!

Yes, we have the weapons to score, but not the time after snap to let a play happen.

Our offense is wakening up more and more with each week that goes by… And hopefully if rice comes back healthy, he comes back to 2009 form.. And we work the kinks out of our offensive line.. We could lead into the 2nd 1/2 of the season unstoppable if that was the case..

by Deek on Oct 25, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, some people need to settle down...

And get a CLUE!!

Chris is right, the current division leaders are not in a lock or looking to lock down a division anytime soon. A lot can likely change.

Look at the Vikings.. Its not like they were Broncos getting blown out by the Raiders.. They have had really close games..

The game is played upon technicalities and luck in these close games. The Vikings surely have the talent.

Saints game – slow start and and a real chance to get the win even in the 4th.

Dolphins – if AP could of made it into the endzone, we win.. If Harvin didn’t juggle the ball to be intercepted, we would of likely won. If Favre didn’t fumble the ball in the endzone, we would of likely won.

Lions – We won, and we won with a good lead.. (That’s not to say the same for the Packers/Bears when they played them).

Jets – close game and always within reach, but not good enough.. The last interception basically clinched it..

Cowboys – We won, it was ugly, but we won.

Packers – Questionable calls, likely both ways.. And we were 1 foot out of bounds of losing that game. Harvin excelled well, AP had over 100 yards rushing.. Even Gerhart did pretty good. Even, and I mean EVEN BERNARD caught a damn ball for some good yards. Randy Moss got a TD pass.

Yes people, our offense is starting to click a little better.
Seems like our defense took a step back.

Oh, and remember people… Learn how the process of the personell goes. Chili could of pulled a red flag on some plays, but, the people who look at the reviews must of assumed it would stand. And, I believe Favre’s interceptions all happened as he was being hit while throwing the ball. Pretty sure your not accurate on a throw when your being hit while passing.

Favre has no pocket time… So he has to make very quick decisions… O-line could use some help and hold them off well. (Last year, it seemed Favre had plenty of time in the pocket vs. Green Bay, I know he never got sacked).

So, this year we started soft, but if we finish strong.. We will be okay. We can hopefully sweep the bears & lions and revenge on GB at home in the dome. We all assumed this year we’d split w/ GB.. And I thinkt his year we beat the Bears twice… Their O-line is horrid, so I expect JA to get a few sacks..

No reason to panic… Middle of the road scenario, we’ll be a WC. Hopefully a division leader.

But if we continue to play poorly, than yes, panic… But, we have the talent.. And our losses have been close..

by Deek on Oct 25, 2010 1:06 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I told you this last night too I think

Stop making sense. The way this board works is that there must be another 24-48 hours of panic and irrationality before anyone is allowed to make sense.

by puddnhead on Oct 25, 2010 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA...

so true…
I had to turn off the game threads… can’t stand the irrational responses EVERY FRIGGIN SECOND…

I BELIEVE...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Oct 26, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

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