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A Belated Lambeau Lament

 

Watching our beloved Minnesota Vikings lose just plain sucks. Adding in the fact that they lost on a big, national stage to divisional rivals the Green Bay Packers makes it that much worse. Oh, and our embattled, veteran quarterback Brett Favre capped off a performance that involved three interceptions with fractures in the ankle and heel of his left foot. But, for me, the final straw is that I foolishly engaged in a "friendly wager" with a friend who happens to be a Packers fan-the memory of this loss is going to stay front-and-center because the time has come to pay up.

So, I don't know if it was the dropping barometric pressure on Monday and Tuesday or the memory of Sunday night's game, but every time I tried to read the gloomy recaps and analysis of the game, my head started throbbing as if it was being stomped on by Clay Matthews.

It puts me in a mood. Take a wild guess what kind of mood that would be.

Star-divide

Part of what makes me so cranky and headachy when I think about the Vikings loss to the Packers on Sunday night is that there were so many good things going for the Vikings performance but it just sounds so placating and Pollyanna-ish to talk about the positives for a losing game. And yet, it seems incomplete and misleading to mention only the horrible stuff that had every purple-blooded Vikings fan out there wincing and cringing.

Clearly, the bad stuff stands out the most after a loss and needs to be addressed and we might as well start there.

For me, one of the worst mistake of the game didn't happen on the field, it happened in the Vikings review booth. I don't know who should have been whispering sweet nothings in Childress' ear during the game and telling him whether or not to throw the challenge flag, but whoever it was screwed up. In replay it did not appear that Packers tight end Andrew Quarless had the touchdown he was credited with at the beginning of the second quarter, but Childress didn't throw the challenge flag, the Packers quickly got the next play off and kicked the extra point, and the Vikings opportunity to challenge the play was gone. This one stings even more because Mike McCarthy on the other side of the field was flinging the challenge flag left and right, and winning the challenges.

In a game that was going to be close and hard fought, every point mattered. Considering the apparent pro-Packer bias in the officiating, it's quite possible the Vikings would have lost the challenge, but it was a chance worth taking. At least, it would have been a chance worth taking had the Vikings actually taken it.

For a team that has been so beat up, the Packers managed to put good pressure on Brett Favre and it paid off in plenty of errant throws. I will credit the Vikings offensive line with improved play because, despite holding onto the ball to try to keep several passing plays alive, Favre was sacked only once-pressured plenty, but sacked only once. Favre might have done better to take the sack or just throw the ball away a few times, but instead he threw three interceptions. And, now he has both a stress fracture and an avulsion fracture in his left ankle.

Winning puts a rosy glow on everything and losing...well, losing makes everything look like a consolation prize. But for the love of Zeus, the Vikings offense finally scored early and often! I think it deserves to be noted that the Vikings offense showed encouraging signs of rhythm and balance, rushing for 196 yards and passing for 206 yards. Favre spread the ball around, passing to seven different members of the offense. For the first time this season, the receiving corps looked, more often than not, that they had actually practiced with Favre and were reading from the same playbook. They might not be the scoring machine they were last season, but they showed they could score in the first half.

Aaron Rodgers stayed upright much too much, but even when the Vikings front four weren't putting him on the ground they were still making their presence felt. I loved that look of surprise on everyone's face, when Jared Allen intercepted Rodgers-even Jared looked surprised. But there weren't enough of those moments and it has me wondering if the defensive strategy of "bend but don't break" hasn't got a tad too limber.

I find myself hoping that the Vikings offense rediscovers how to drop the freaking hammer on opponents through the rest of this week, that the review booth and/or Childress learn to take a chance and throw the challenge flag, and that the defense returns to the simple joy of hitting quarterbacks. As for me, I'll be reminding myself that gambling does not pay-at least it doesn't pay for me.

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I feel your pain Skol Girl

I never win a bet involving my Vikes. I always tell myself i’m never doing it again. I’ll bet in confidence in my vikes and they lose. I’m not a huge gambler so its a rare occasion for me, but this year i’m glad because I can never bet against the vikes, and well, i’d be down a considerable amount.
The defensive pressure issue has been annoying. Its even more annoying when its clearly not working to only rush 4 and we don’t bring any more backers to help get the quarterback down. A sack is so devastating to a drive. It also helps out the field position. I think Frazier needs to focus less on the bend but don’t break and more on stopping a teams momentum by getting more pressure and sacks.
I can’t get to angry at the defense though because they’ve kept us in every ball game and had their worst performance this past Sunday. It just so happens (aside from turnovers) our offense had their best performance. We need to get these 2 units performing at the same time. Of course keep up the special teams great coverage so far. They’ve done great on kick-off considering longwell is kicking it to only the 10 at times.

I also agree with you skol girl that the O-line hasn’t played terrible. I think they give him his 3 and 5 step drops and give him time to make a decision then, but because he isn’t mobile enough the guys are eventually going to get to him. maybe i’m totally wrong here but Jackson should give our recievers a little extra time to wiggle free. With Jackson, though, we will see more zone coverage so it will be more of him seeing the open gaps and knowing where the defenders will be going. He will likely get blitzed frequently so he needs to use those legs.
yes folks, i’m one to believe this is where Favre’s injury keeps him out. He looked like my grandpa walking off that stage after the game and he is still wearing a boot. He can try, but I don’t see how it benefits our team now or in the long run by him risking the bone from just chipping right off.

by PurpleJesuZ on Oct 27, 2010 9:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Here's a solution:

You bet on the other team winning the game.
If Vikings win, you lose some money but you are happy because your team won.
If Vikings lose, at least you win some money!

by izziefans on Oct 27, 2010 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not a bad solution

But the bet wasn’t about money. It was more along the lines of what the MN and WI governors do when the Vikings and Packers play.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Oct 28, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds like you have some political pull..

how bout the losing Gov of the next Viking Packer game pays for our new stadium?

by BigSkyViking on Oct 28, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL I wish. Stadium debate? What stadium debate? Get it built.

No, I meant this wager was like how the governors exchange beer as a wager on the Vikings/Packers game.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Oct 29, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did this last year

It was called ‘Favre Insurance’, needless to say, I had lots of bills to wipe my tears away with.

by chewie on Oct 28, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

It is just sad...

How well that must be working for you this season.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Oct 29, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

You bring up many good points

What you say is true. Despite the loss, the Vikings’ offense really had one of its best performances of the season. It was the interceptions that really killed us. Well, and the refs. Imagine if Favre hadn’t thrown the interception that was immediately run in for a Green Bay touchdown and the refs hadn’t taken away Shiancoe’s touchdown. Heartbreaking to know that if that interception hadn’t happened or that touchdown hadn’t been taken away the Vikings might have won.

The defense, despite the lack of sacks, has done a surprisingly good job of keeping the Vikings in games this season. It is intriguing how they have accomplished that without sacking opposing quarterbacks or having more interceptions and fumble recoveries. I don’t know how they manage it, but they do. If they can start getting to quarterbacks, well, things will get more fun.

You bring up a good point I had forgotten in my post-game stupor. Once again the special teams unit did a good, solid job with directional kicking and solid tackling. And Harvin had some good returns that gave the Vikings good field position.

As for my wager, I’m a lousy gambler. I need to do like my friend Jesse—he cheers with his heart but bets with his head.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Oct 27, 2010 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Skol Girl

I just read your Aaron Rodgers crush article on your blog. I disapprove _

by StuckInCA on Oct 27, 2010 10:06 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I understand. And, I promise, it does make me feel a little dirty.

But, my crush on Rodgers is based solely on his pretty face. For all I know, he could be a total douchebag—considering he wears green and gold, the signs point in that direction.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Oct 27, 2010 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty Face???

For what it’s worth, I believe he is dating this girl:

by izziefans on Oct 28, 2010 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

When he rocks the mustache

He looks like a 70s porn star

haha

by Deek on Oct 28, 2010 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I Was Watching The Game With My Sister...

…who is NOT a football fan. (She asked me how many points a “goal” is worth in football)

Anyway, she says to me: “I didn’t know that Ryan from the Office was a football player.”

Yes, she was serious.

by Soybomb on Oct 28, 2010 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Classic!

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Oct 28, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

So.

You like pretty guys…

by KC612 on Oct 28, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like variety.

It’s really a mixed bag. Some of the guys I get my benign celebrity crushes on are pretty, but I don’t think Vin Diesel and Jason Statham really fall into that category.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Oct 28, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's okay ;-)

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Oct 28, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

i heard vin diesel

..plays for the other team…so to speak

"the following statement is true:
the preceding statement was false" - george carlin

by BranFavrenton on Oct 28, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

Puts a whole new spin on the tension with Paul Walker in the Fast and the Furious.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Oct 29, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

The porn-stache is terrible! I don’t get why guys think facial hair is so great. There is almost no face that is improved by some poorly groomed facial hair that looks like a dead animal hanging out on your upper lip.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Oct 28, 2010 12:49 AM CDT reply actions  

I think

if you look at Jared Allen with out his mullet you may find your answer. I have both a mullet and a large dead animal on my face and all my power!

it is better to be thought of as dumb then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Ben Franklin

by montana vikes fan on Oct 28, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

So it is a Sampson thing?

I just figured it was because no one had taken a tranquilizer dart and clippers to them.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Oct 28, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think its a

guy thing, you know getting in touch with your harry man. I would grow a bread too, except for the fact that I grow a great plains bread…….lots of wide open spaces! Besides my wife hates breads, but I had the stach before we met so it stays.

it is better to be thought of as dumb then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Ben Franklin

by montana vikes fan on Oct 29, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Staying true to your roots?

I suppose that makes sense.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Oct 29, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

"you take that back, you hear?!"

"the following statement is true:
the preceding statement was false" - george carlin

by BranFavrenton on Oct 28, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uhm, no.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Oct 29, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I doubt your wager is anything worse than the multiple ones I lost. I’m surrounded by Pack fans here. I think the worst may be one at work where the loser (me) agreed to volunteer for a particularly unpleasant project (we knew one of us would be assigned if there were no volunteers).

This is a bet I may still be paying for 6-12 months from now :(

by puddnhead on Oct 28, 2010 6:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Man, that sucks.

Makes my bet so much more wimpy. Of course, my Packers fan friend has now seen this post and feels guilty about making me pay up.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Oct 28, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

My wife is a Steelers fan and I root for the Patriots. That is the only game we bet on.

Loser has to be on top. Winning is sweet, but losing ain’t so bad either. ;-)

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 28, 2010 11:08 AM CDT reply actions  

Loser is on top? Hmmmm …

by puddnhead on Oct 28, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don’t really have to do any work on the bottom, plus a beer hat and you’ve got a nice evening…

by CaP'M on Oct 28, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Keeps your hands free, too.

For what it’s worth….

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 28, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

and if its a tie???

….doggie?

"the following statement is true:
the preceding statement was false" - george carlin

by BranFavrenton on Oct 28, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Games can't end in ties.

Just ask Donovan McNabb….

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 28, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 28, 2010 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sick of talking about losing to the Packers.

Can we talk about losing to the Pats instead?

Then again, it IS usually this type of game the Vikes smash the shit out of the opponent and you wonder just where the hell that came from…..

by Jepp The Viking on Oct 28, 2010 12:40 PM CDT reply actions  

I hope you're onto something.

For the first time this year I’m saying the Vikings will lose. (Reverse psychology on the powers that be).

Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted. - John Lennon

by JethroBoViking on Oct 28, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Vikings, Childress, & Favre

I think Tiki Barber nailed it when he said the Vikings really need to get the focus “OFF” of Bret Favre and simply give AP the ball because he’s one of the best backs in the NFL. As good as AP is, he’s not getting near enough touches. For me anyway, I would love to see a (2) back offense with him and TG in the backfield. I think it would pose alot of problems for opposing defenses. They would slam it down their throats with this kind of running game. Along with Tiki’s comments, he said it also might be a change for the owner to bench both Favre and Childress and put the emphasis back on the team rather than those two. it seems Leslie Frazier is highly respected amongst the players and has a more even keel tempermant than Childress. And, by benching Favre (regardless of health) and putting TJ in the line-up gives them another dimension and clearly takes the focus on this team off of Bret and allows TJ to ease into the QB role by simply revolving the offense around AP, rather than Bret Favre.

I think Tiki Barber’s comments have tremendous merit and it just may be the right time for the owner to make some wholesale changes on this team. IMO…………Childress has lost the respect of his players (particularly on offense).

by jjlovesfootball on Oct 28, 2010 12:50 PM CDT reply actions  

nice try..

…its kinda like investing your hard-earned 20mil or so in a hot-stock… it does well for a while, but then slowly starts tanking.. you cant bail out.. that would be a realized-loss.. stick with paper loss and ride it out.. hoping for a bull-run around the corner..

favre stays,starts.. (chilly not so sure)

"the following statement is true:
the preceding statement was false" - george carlin

by BranFavrenton on Oct 28, 2010 3:29 PM CDT reply actions  

oops again..that was supposed to be a reply to jjlovesfootball comment..

…when will someone redesign this web-site to account for my post-new-comment-when-i-mean-to -repply-itis already?

"the following statement is true:
the preceding statement was false" - george carlin

by BranFavrenton on Oct 28, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

My wife thinks Rodgers has a pretty face too. Pretty enough to bet on.

We always bet dinner on the Viking – Packer match ups. Last year was sweet for me, but this year could hurt, depending on which restaurant she picks. I should have told her I’d take her to McDonalds and she can order anything she wants. :)

I also lost a dinner bet to my daughter, who attended LSU, on that first Saints game. She told me to start saving my money because It’s going to be really expensive.

Do I dare bet on that next Viking – Packer match up?
HELL YES!

Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted. - John Lennon

by JethroBoViking on Oct 28, 2010 5:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Fun wager :)

So, where does your wife want to go for dinner?

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Oct 29, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

All you gamblers:

Quit teasing the rest of us and reveal what you won or lost.

by izziefans on Oct 29, 2010 6:08 AM CDT reply actions  

Fine.

I’m just so hardcore I bet baked goods.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Oct 29, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

C'mon, c'mon, shaped like what?

There’s always more to the story….

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 29, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Again, not nearly as exciting as the build-up would suggest.

I was thinking about something Halloween themed—cut-out cookies with skeleton decorations. But I haven’t completely decided.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Oct 29, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

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