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An Open Letter to the Vikings Defense

To whom it may concern,


Something happened today that has never happened in 50 years that there has been Vikings football. For the first time ever, the Vikings failed to record a sack in 3 consecutive games. That's right. In 50 years this has never happened. But that was just the embarrassing cherry on top of a humiliating performance by the supposedly vaunted Vikings defense, especially their front seven.

Star-divide

The players aren't privy to the broadcast but just know that Fox posted this statistic during the Patriots last drive. There were perhaps some (like me) who thought it was an illusion, some kind of Halloween prank. But no, sadly it is true. No player on your team has recorded a sack since Ray Edwards sacked Mark Sanchez in the first 10 seconds of the 3rd quarter against the Jets. That is actually very, very nearly three and a half games without sacking an opposing quarterback.

Now, if someone were to ask me, or even any casual football fan what the Vikings defense is best known for, they'd probably say one of these three things in order.

1. Stopping the run

2. Rushing the passer

3. Having a bad secondary

For the better part of the last 4 seasons, the positives have been obvious though. Stop the run (since 2006 the Vikings have ranked no lower than 2nd in run defense and are often regarded as one of the best run defenses in NFL history). Rush the passer (the Vikings have been in the top 10 in sacks each of the last 3 years). But that is a lie because you can't do either this year. In 7 games, you have 6 sacks. Just let that figure sink in for a second because it is a little shocking at first. That is beyond humiliating for almost any team, but especially for a team that led the league in sacks just one year ago. It's tied for last in the league. There are over a dozen individual players with at least that many sacks this year by themselves.

It doesn't stop there though because you can't seem to consistently stop the run anymore either (but never more so than when the game is on the line). You were absolutely gashed by BenJarvus Green-Ellis today for 6.6 yards per carry to total 112 yards (a career best), but 62 of those yards came on the final/decisive Patriots possession of the game in which he carried 7 times and capped the five and a half minute long drive with his second TD, putting the game out of reach. In a similar "must stop" situation against the Jets, you allowed 40 yards on 4 carries as Shonn Greene capped the drive with a TD.

You have returned 10 starters this year and you can't blame your problems on the 1 you don't have. Cedric Griffin's injury is tragic, but not an excuse because Antoine Winfield missed significant time 2 of the last 3 seasons and you've handled it just fine. And, with all due respect to Griffin, Antoine is a better player. Injuries aren't really an excuse anyways because the Patriots have hobbled together better defenses from converted WR's and journeyman free agents in the past. They've even won Super Bowls that way.

So what is going on? Is it the coaching? Are you guys not eating your Wheaties? Is Jared Allen's lost mullet really having this profound of an effect on everyone?

The offense's struggles have been well publicized, and rightfully so. But tonight, the game was in your grasp and you were the ones that let it slip (or run) away. You owe it to the fans that support you, to the ownership that pays you and to the great men who wore that uniform before you to pick yourselves up out of the mud, figure out what is wrong and fix it. Time is ticking away and may have already run out, but pride is still there to be salvaged. Let's right this ship!

Sincerely,

-Concerned Fanbase

This FanPost was created by a registered user of The Daily Norseman, and does not necessarily reflect the views of the staff of the site. However, since this is a community, that view is no less important.

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Good post. Deserves a rec.

I have to agree with everything you said. Defense let us down today and it’s past strengths have turned into weaknesses. Run defense and pass rush have got to improve. Man, it felt weird typing that last sentence.

by CanadianViking on Oct 31, 2010 8:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Testify, brother.

tell itfrom the mountaintops. Rec’d

I piss people off on a fairly regular basis. I cherish my right to speak my mind, whether I sound like an uneducated savage or not. I've never been accused of keeping what I think a secret, nor will I ever. Don't like it? I don't care.

by IABerserker1 on Oct 31, 2010 8:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Bench them all

This whole season has been pathetic. To think that Leslie Frazier and Karl Dunbar are supposed to be rising stars.

Put in the younger guys.

by medicineball on Oct 31, 2010 8:29 PM CDT reply actions  

play everson griffen..

…and dont waste money resigning edwards next year,,

"the following statement is true:
the preceding statement was false" - george carlin

by BranFavrenton on Oct 31, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Amen, brother

Not just coming up short when we need them to shine, but failing miserably. Unacceptable. This much talent on the team and we can’t pull it together to stop one drive?

by cyberuck on Oct 31, 2010 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

START ROBISON

Sit Edwards and start Robison, he has a non-stop motor and gives it his all every down.
I think fat pat has to sit as well, past his prime. Time to shake things up and see what the younger guys can do.
On the bright side it looks like were going to get a decent pick this year and god knows we need a top flight quarterback for the next decade of viking football. Anyone know who will be the top quarterbacks available in the draft? Would like to keep my eye on who our available options are?

by NJThor on Oct 31, 2010 9:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Agree but...

…I think I’d actually sit Jared before Edwards. Childress was a fool to trade Jayme Mitchell to Cleveland for basically nothing.

by kcskol on Oct 31, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

We have been sitting Pat and letting the younger guys come in...

Did you see the play where Fred Evans ran from LDE all the way across the field to takle BJGE behind the line?

by Bjorno on Nov 1, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

yea

I saw that. That was a great play.

by Cobra312004 on Nov 1, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Andrew Luck

He’s the one we’d want if we’re going to draft a QB.

by princelyfrank on Nov 1, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Something has to change.

I think we started seeing the rush defense falter last year. Now that we don’t have that, we are just not that great. Our secondary has always been a problem. Without any pass rush it is just a matter of time before offenses exploit it.

by bf4mvp on Oct 31, 2010 9:28 PM CDT reply actions  

i was never that comfortable with that whold bend-not-break praise..

.. how fast that illusion of a good defense has faded.. now we can officially see that except for stopping the run, stopping the pass, or rushing the passer, our d is just dandy..

"the following statement is true:
the preceding statement was false" - george carlin

by BranFavrenton on Oct 31, 2010 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Could Madieu Williams have played a worse game???

He was horrible today. The almost-interception that went through his arms in the 1st quarter snatched defeat from the jaws of victory but was just the beginning. He ran bad angles all day long and looked terrible in every aspect of the game — as bad as Tyrell Johnson was all last season.

The D-line and secondary are looking weak. At least the linebackers are playing well.

by kcskol on Oct 31, 2010 9:41 PM CDT reply actions  

True

The linebackers haven’t been very good really but a lot of that is on the line. The linebackers are not running free because our line is not doing their job consistently. When RB’s get past the line of scrimmage, there is no one there because the LB’s are getting blocked or caught up in trash.

by Cobra312004 on Nov 1, 2010 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

as bad as Tyrell Johnson was all last season.

Whoa, whoa, whoa… Those are some strong words.

Tyrell was not nearly as bad last year as Madieu was in this game.

by Bjorno on Nov 1, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

coaching

As I’ve said in previous posts; it seems the longer a player is under this coaching staff, the worse his play is! This seems to apply to both offense and defense.

by kagey on Oct 31, 2010 10:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Rec ....totally agree with this post!

There definitely needs to be changes made, MB was on to something in another thread. I think Pat needs to just be a situational player at this stage of his career, in short yardage and goal line defense, and Guion needs to start in his place, he is better against the run than Kennedy and have Kennedy rotate in for KWill. Griffen needs to be brought in as a situational pass rusher for Edwards so he can get his feet wet and get experience. Robison needs to start to help light a fire underneath JA.
I don’t even want to talk about our safety play…the CB’s are doing okay considering that they are being asked to cover WR’s for 15 seconds each play it seems like. I knew the Cedric Griffen injury was going to impact this team but I think Chris Cook will only get better as he gets healthier and more acquainted with the defense.
I agree if it weren’t for the solid play of the LB’s we would really be in trouble.

by nmvikesfan on Oct 31, 2010 11:37 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd like to see that

Start the backups next week, give them a series, then let the starters back in and see if they can prove they deserve to be out there.

by Cobra312004 on Nov 1, 2010 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

the defensive line needs new blood......

But they are not the ones that left three points on the field before the first half ended. It was once again our challanged coach. You know, the same one who went for it on fourth down in the opening drive of the Miami game and left three important points on the field then, too!!! This turned out to be pivitol when we, with our k.o.a., were blown up at the l.o.s. on a fourth and goal by a good, but not great miami defense. This coach, who may be a good talent evaluator, has no game time instinct. Maybe he would be better in the front office, i don’t know, but he is constantly second guessing himself on the field. If you dont believe me, you need not go any farther than looking at his challange of the patriot’s reception in the second half. now i am not, nor even claim to be, a head coach in the nfl, but i could plainly see that the play did not warrant a challange. His decisions always seem to be too reactionary. i think he challanged that beacause he was afraid of being chastised for not challanging a close call, as was the case last week against green bay. His decision making is supposed to put this team in a position to win the game, but it is apparent that it his his decision making is puttiing the team in positions where we are constantly playing from behind, and in turn, losing the games. It is time for new blood. it is time for an outside source to start making decsions for this franchise!! the only question is who will it be??

by norsemenxpress on Nov 1, 2010 7:11 AM CDT reply actions  

The heart says go for 6, the mind says go for 3.

I was on the game thread at the time and most everybody was saying go for the TD. The way Peterson was playing, you would have thought he could have powered it in.

I was amazed that we got the 2 from TJ to Harvin. Who would have predicted that?

Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted. - John Lennon

by JethroBoViking on Nov 1, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I still think going for it was the right move, but running it was not. I wanted a play action pass, and especially wanted it after I saw how hard they sold out on the run. But you’re playing the Patriots, you have to be aggressive if you’re going to beat them. Of course, Childress is getting praised for the decision if we score a TD there so that’s the way things break sometimes.

I’m more upset by the lack of jump balls to Moss we saw in the redzone, especially considering that’s why we brought him in.

by Cobra312004 on Nov 1, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

4th and 1

If you’re 4th and 1, and on the goal line, the game is tied, it’s the last play of the half.

You have Pro-Bowlers McKinnie and Hutchinson on the left side, you have Kleinsasser as your truck to anchor the left, and you have a brutal monster called Adrian Peterson to hammer the ball in.

1 yard.
 
What do you do?

If you don’t try to run that ball up the left side, one grueling inch at a time, you don’t have a single ball to your name. Not one.

What if, inexplicably, you try to run the ball someplace?

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Nov 1, 2010 8:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Exactly What I Said!

I was all in favor of going for the TD at the end of the half but why in God’s name run to the right? Did Childress not learn his lesson in the Miami game?

We have 650+ lbs. of Pro-Bowl linemen on the left side. Throw Kleinsasser in there and you’re looking at over 900 lbs of ass whoop blocking for Peterson. For God’s sake, at least they could hold the defense long enough to let Peterson get his momentum going forward!

Childress is a complete moron and has no business coaching at the Jr. High level, let alone in the NFL. I hope he’s fired immediately, if not sooner.

The Minnesota Vikings - Undefeated in the Playoffs at Lambeau Field!

by BaldViking on Nov 1, 2010 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

adrian cant run

when he has two or three guys in front of him before he gets to the line of scrimmage

by norsemenxpress on Nov 1, 2010 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, that is just a load of nonsense.

AP has made his career out of running through two or three guys at the line. Half the long runs he has are from him hitting a hole that has already closed up, bouncing it to the outside and bowling through arm-tackles.

by Bjorno on Nov 1, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

thats true

but not on the goal line when there is 11 in the box instead of 7,8 or 9!

by norsemenxpress on Nov 1, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

But you said...

two or three guys, not eleven. Splitting hairs, I know.

But really, AP is probably one of the better goal-line guys in the league, we just have to stop outsmarting ourselves by trying to fool the opposing defense.

by Bjorno on Nov 1, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only problem with that

Is that the left side got blasted backwards too. We needed to run a play action to one of the TE’s, that was our only chance. They knew we would run it and were not letting Adrian anywhere to go between the tackles on that play.

by Cobra312004 on Nov 1, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

they sold run hard. AD is the best running back in football. But when you get hit 2 yards behind the line of scrimmage, the chances of success are pretty small. Left, right, that didn’t matter. The O-line was blown up completely.

by Shawn Gillogly on Nov 1, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was the gaffe that chafed the most...

Not only did he opt to run to the weak side (because he’s so clever they’ll never expect it!) but he motioned Shank AWAY from the play to really sell his genius bluff.

*sniff

by CaP'M on Nov 1, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

and where was cook as our fullback??

by iseepurplepeople on Nov 1, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

i agree but,

i think the play originated on the right side? Loadholdt, and i stress the load part, was pathetically blown back a yard into the backfield and Adrian tried to switch direction. Adrian was stopped from the penetration. loadholt’s side is not as strong , so why are we going to that side in that situation? Why did we not try the left side. the coach!!! he does not recognize the teams weakness. that being said, he is the weakness!!!!

by norsemenxpress on Nov 1, 2010 9:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Exactly

The Viking defense let this game get away. No pass rush, pathetic tackling and lack of intensity and effort as a defensive team. The entire team was mediocre but the inability to make defensive stops lost this game. I wonder how this team would have done if Wilf had kept Mike Tomlin and let Childress go somewhere else? Fantasy, but……….

by TexasViking on Nov 1, 2010 10:00 AM CDT reply actions  

question

There was all this talk of mid-season firing of Childress and promoting Frazier to HC. Now that the defense is in disarray….does that still seem like a good idea?

by lorenzo4 on Nov 1, 2010 1:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes.

The defensive issues are not so much scheme-related, as they are player-related.

Pat Williams is no longer the beast he was in the past, pushing 38 years of age. Add to that the lack of any tackling or catching ability by Madieu Williams and a large part of our rush defense is having issues.

That and Belicheck is pretty clever, and knows Childress’s tendencies.

by Bjorno on Nov 1, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly Bjorno

if a mid season move it is better done if there is a respected in-house coach. There is

by CitrusFLViking on Nov 2, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'll gladly sign this letter

i’m a bit more upset about this aspect of the game because i spent last week somewhat defending the defense. i was okay with their play up until this game even without the the sacks and picks but this defense is so much better than the one i saw yesterday allowing benjarvus green-ellis (who???) run roughshod them in the waning minutes when a stop gives us a chance to win.

this is the first game this season that we lost because of the defense.

by iseepurplepeople on Nov 1, 2010 1:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Ths Defense is a case of the player, not the D coach

Leslie had this D built 2 years ago. Right now they are following the heartbeat of the coach. A beat that is starting to flatline.
Frazier as one reporter put it is the shining hope in the coaching staff and all the players revere him.
If you make a middle of the season change it is better done with a familiar and respected face

by CitrusFLViking on Nov 2, 2010 4:20 PM CDT reply actions  

What NFL Network had to say about it

The guys at “Playbook” took a closer look at the final Patriots drive that lost the game for us.

by Cobra312004 on Nov 3, 2010 5:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Thanks for posting that. I love those segments that they do! Anyways, it’s interesting to see Pat Williams struggle as much as he did in those clips. I don’t think he’s anywhere near the player he once was. Allen has really struggled too. The play where Gronkowski blocked him 1 on 1 is just unacceptable.

by packallday555 on Nov 3, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

OPEN LETTER TO THE DEFENSE

Nice job Cobra312004

I have noticed since wk.1 that the run defense has gotten worse people are not maintaining their gap responsibilities

2.Without a dominant pass rush our less than average secondary is exposed.

3.And with GRIFFINS injury we only have one D.B. that is a good tackler # 26.

4.If the choice is Chilli or Frazier then get rid of Chilli.

by Bako- on Nov 4, 2010 3:33 AM CDT reply actions  

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