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Moss Trade Winners and Losers

Football is a game of winners and losers…unless you tie.  But never mind that, stick with my premise here.  With the trade of Randy Moss to the Vikings, there were a slew of winners and losers.  Some are obvious, some not so much.  Let’s break down who came out ahead and who got their head kicked in.  After the jump.

Oh, and welcome home Randy!  Again!!    

Star-divide

Winners:

Vikes fans that didn’t want Moss traded—Well, Moss is home, and you should be overjoyed.  I am.  I missed the big play ability and the on the field thrills he gave us for seven years, culminated by the Bitch Slap at Lambeau in 2004.  Every time a Vikings QB dropped back to pass and threw to Moss, there was an anticipation that he could take a 6 yard out 80 yards for a score.  I didn’t think that about another Vikings receiver until Percy Harvin joined the team last year, and the Vikings have struggled to replace Moss’ big play ability since he left.  Now, Moss and Harvin are on the same team…with Sidney Rice when he returns.  Oh.  My.  God. 

All other Vikes fans—There was a vocal contingent of Viking fans that wanted Moss gone, and I get that.  He spent a night (or two) in jail, played when he wanted to play, liked him some whacky weed (allegedly) and was generally a moody pain in the ass.  But those of you that were happy to see Moss go should be happy to see him return, because he creates the type of press and buzz that keeps the Vikings moving forward towards a new stadium and remaining in Minnesota.  I find it somewhat ironic that the two biggest villains in the minds of many Viking fans will be the primary catalyst towards the Vikes getting a new stadium and staying in Minnesota. 

Wilf—Zygi Wilf will do anything to put a winner on the field and secure funding for a new stadium, and I love him for it.  No, really, as in I’d have his children kind of love.  It’s cool having football’s version of George Steinbrenner running the Vikings and sparing no expense in trying to secure a Super Bowl win.  This was a great trade to realize both visions, and is the latest in a long line of fantastic front office moves since Zygi WIlf became owner.

FavreBrett Favre was so pissed off that Green Bay didn’t trade for Moss in 2007 that he took Ted Thompson off of his Christmas Card list and quit sending him Wrangler jeans.  Then he retired.  Then he got traded.  Why?  Because Favre understands that if you could match up arguably the best quarterback and best wide receiver in the league on one team, you go a long way towards winning a Super Bowl.  Oh, you need a great defense, and a running game that can pound an opponent into dust, too.  What?  The Vikings have that?  Yeah, yeah they do, and Favre now has the best receiver in the game to throw to, which just made his job a lot easier.

Moss—Most fans will let bygones be bygones, and remember the good times.  Moss will be loved here like he wouldn’t be loved anywhere else, will be re-energized and motivated to play for Favre and his first pro hometown, and will probably get the contract extension that New England wouldn’t give him.  He returns to a Minnesota team that is just as talented as the team he left, so he is still in the Super Bowl hunt, and he now gets to play with a guy he has admired for a long time in Brett Favre.  He also gets to play New England in a few weeks, and I for one can’t wait.

Patriots—The good Randy is the most fearsome receiver in the NFL.  The bad Randy is a pissed off malcontent that can really drag a team down.  It didn’t seem like he was at that point with the Patriots, but could I have seen it happening?  In a word, yes.  If the Pats weren’t going to give him an extension, it made sense to move him now and get a third round pick (they gave up a 4 for him when they got him from the Raiders, so win there) and get rid of him before he became a distraction.  The Patriots now have two picks each in the first, second, and third rounds of next year’s draft.  Damn…just damn.

Adrian Peterson—Whoever thinks that Chris Johnson will still put up better numbers than Adrian Peterson, please go check yourself into rehab.  The Vikings offense now has mismatches on mismatches, and there is no way to defend them all at once.  You can’t bring 8 in the box on a regular basis anymore, not if you want to have a job as a defensive coordinator, and that benefits AP.  Oh, and you can’t drop back into a deep zone and double Moss and Harvin anymore either.  Well, you can, but that’s stupid, too.  Moss opens up the running game like Sidney Rice and Percy Harvin, as good as they are, do not.  Peterson is going to run wild, and when defenses start to focus on him, Favre to Moss over the top.  Dear, Sweet, Jesus, I can hardly wait.

Darrell Bevell—Okay, at this point I think I could run this offense.  I mean dear God, you have an offensive line that’s back to being pretty good.  You have an All-Pro caliber player at TE, WR, WR, WR again (when he comes back from injury), RB, and QB.  Seriously, I would just walk into the meeting room and laugh, every day, knowing that I was going to kick the hell out of every defense I was going up against.  Then I would go masturbate at the thought of the offensive weapons at my disposal.  If this offense can’t score at will, then Darrell Bevell needs to be demoted to high school JV special teams coach.  Are these unrealistic expectations?  Of course they are.  I don’t care.

Favre's Ankle--Just spitballing here, but I bet it doesn't hurt nearly as much as it did this time yesterday.  Just sayin'...

Losers:

AJ Smith, Chargers GM—You are a dumbass.  The Vikes had a contract in place with Jackson, but you held out for more compensation and the Vikings wisely passed.  Now, you have no draft picks, a receiver that’s suspended for another two games AND who is still pissed off and just waiting to be a locker room cancer, but you showed him, didn’t you?

Vincent Jackson—You’re a dumbass, too.  You decided to be a diva and sit out, thinking the Chargers would trade you, even though you were suspended for 6 games.  When the Vikings came calling, you were going to get paid, but you didn’t factor in what a penis AJ Smith could be.  Oops.

Tom Brady—This is minimal, at best.  He still goes home at night and bangs one of the five hottest women in the world, is still one of the best QB’s to ever play, will still have a great season, and still plays on a great team that’s on the Super Bowl short list.  But losing one of the best WR’s to throw to on a weekly basis can’t be considered a win, unless you get another one to replace him, which he didn’t.  Oh, and get a haircut Tom.  I mean seriously? 

The Rest of the NFC North—Dear Green Bay, Chicago, and Detroit:  Suck.  Our.  Purple.  Balls.  Talk yourself into thinking this isn’t a seismic power shift, that Moss will be a whiny bitch, and how in the long run this doesn’t help the Vikings.  Ease yourself into thinking that this is a $100 million trainwreck waiting to happen.  Deep down, you’re terrified of what just went down, because you know that your early season confidence that the Vikes were done has just been flushed down the toilet.  You know it.  We know it.  And you know that we know it. 

Bernard Berrian and Greg Camarillo—You know, I haven’t been as hard on Berrian as most fans have.  I like the guy, and I think he’s been a good player for the Vikes.  For whatever reason, he’s struggled mightily this year, and when Sidney Rice comes back, I see his playing time severely limited, maybe even to the point of being deactivated a few times.  At best, he’ll be a slot guy and number four on the depth chart.  He’s an outside speed guy who no longer has a role.  As for Camarillo, I thought it was just a matter of time before he really started contributing as a wide receiver, but now Harvin will be the primary slot guy, and Camarillo will only be on the field during 4 wide sets.  At least I would think so.  But hey, at least he’s developed as a good punt returner.

Sidney Rice’s wallet, maybe—If Moss gets a contract extension, what does the financial future for Rice hold?  Will the Vikings be able to afford both?  If they do, will Rice get as much money as he would have if Moss wasn’t on the Vikings?  Rice will surely flourish on the field, because it’s just nuts thinking about Moss, Rice, Harvin, AP, and Shiancoe on the same team.  It’s just mind boggling, but it might have hurt Rice’s pocketbook in the long run.

Feel free to add any winners and losers as you see fit, because I’m sure I’m missing something.

Except Randy Moss, who’s a Viking again!

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The Randy Moss trade was...
A Masterstroke by the Vikings.
2395 votes
A dumb move that will bite the Vikings in the butt
244 votes
Something I'm not sure about. I need to think about it.
193 votes
A good trade for both teams.
722 votes

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Agree with everything

except Brady’s hair. Keep it Brady.
Apparently Giselle is behind his hair and who wouldn’t do anything to get behind that woman’s behind?

by izziefans on Oct 6, 2010 11:18 AM CDT reply actions  

Masterstroke

I didn’t even have to, once the trade was confirmed I was already finished.

Favre: It's rare to ever see a QB be so indecisive, waffle...
It's also unlikely to have one start 19 consecutive seasons.

by VikesPma on Oct 6, 2010 11:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Echoes of Housh

Housh passes on us, we get Harvin. We don’t get V-Jax, we get Moss.

And I can’t imagine there isn’t a team in the league who wouldn’t have done 3rd round for the Freak. Amazing deal. Well done, front office.

by Purpledork on Oct 6, 2010 11:24 AM CDT reply actions  

true..

…i can’t believe that not a single other team would say “wait! we’ll give you a 2nd round pick!”

"the following statement is true:
the preceding statement was false" - george carlin

by BranFavrenton on Oct 6, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is so Awesome!!!

I’ve been in bed the last two days delerious with a fever and I come down to the computer and find out Randy Moss is back!!! Now I’m delerious with happiness. This is so unbelievable. We gave him away for nothing, and now get him back for nothing. Can you imagine when Rice gets back, woo hoo!!!

by sle71r on Oct 6, 2010 11:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Can't argue with any of the winners or losers there

Great post Ted! I can’t wait to head to Wells Fargo and yell out STRAIGHT CASH HOMEY when I bring in a check today!

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by Eric J. Thompson on Oct 6, 2010 11:50 AM CDT reply actions  

Masterstroke for MN.

Big win for NE.

Epic for Vikings fans. Football fans and everyone else you mentioned.

Great post.

Great trade.

Awesome day.

SKOL!

P.S. I want Mick Vick next year!!

by Casey H on Oct 6, 2010 11:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Lolz,

Mike Vick even.

Mick must be his little brother. Or was that Marcus? ;)

by Casey H on Oct 6, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Darrell Bevell—Okay, at this point I think I could run this offense. "

Precedes the single best paragraph I’ve laid eyes on in quite some time. I’m still giggling.

Out loud, creepily giggling like a 13 y/o girl at her first sleepover.

Who else is excite?

by Casey H on Oct 6, 2010 12:00 PM CDT reply actions  

SKOL Brothers!!

I agree completely!!! Great write up Ted!

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by Admiral BigGun on Oct 7, 2010 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't get too excited yet

Favre and Pat Williams are gone after ths year, AP wants an extension of his contract along with Moss, Tice is in on that game as well. There will be alot of players on the roster this season that will be gone next year, although it may not matter with the impending lockout. Rice may not be coming back this year depending on how his recovery goes, Harvin is always a game day decision. I’m not trying to crap all over this deal but I’m at least trying to be realistic. Even if we sign Moss and Rice, who do we have at QB for next year……Jackson…..pardon me if I don’t bet my house on him coming through for us.

by Sixmark on Oct 6, 2010 12:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't be a "Debbie Downer"...

Seriously. Let people be excited AND for the record who cares about next year. Right now we’re worried about THIS year, broseph. Now get with the excitement and such. ;)

by Wytefang on Oct 6, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was excited and still am, but I still think we need someone to step up and be a solid #2 WR if there is a chance of this wotking this year……….another thing to look at is……Childress has been given loads of talent to get the job done, and if he can’t, even with his new contract extension I think he will be put on the hot seat. There is nothing I would like to see more than Moss coming back and looking like his old self here in MN.

by Sixmark on Oct 6, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m split on this – talent wise he still makes catches that other players couldn’t do if they were controlling him on Madden, but can he co-exist with Childress? I’ve not got much faith in Chilli’s man management, and if he blows up at Randy, I can’t see him signing an extension.

Funny thing is that we might win the SuperBowl with a marginalised coach – I could see Favre holding the attention of the team if he starts querying the play-calling again, and in that case, Chilli’s authority would be gone.

Could be an amazing trade or a coach-killer (didn’t TO do some damage to Childress when they were together in Philly?)

by ViolentSilence on Oct 6, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speed of a #2, Hands of Granite

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Oct 6, 2010 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL!

Internet HIGH FIVE, bro!

just keep the optimism… all season long.

I BELIEVE...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Oct 6, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed..

i don’t know about the rest of the TORTURED LIFELONG VIKINGS FAITHFUL, but i , personally, would take 0-16 next two years for the Lombardi trophy, finally , hoisted above our heads this year!

"the following statement is true:
the preceding statement was false" - george carlin

by BranFavrenton on Oct 6, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

sorry meant Rice , not Tice….lol there’s a freudian slip for ya

by Sixmark on Oct 6, 2010 12:23 PM CDT reply actions  

What about the Jets...

how do Vikings fans see this shaking out for the Monday nighter at the Meadowlands? Will Moss be able to impact that game?

"Focus; Finish. Work on winning each play."
-- NY Jets 2010 philosophy --

by rick34125 on Oct 6, 2010 12:27 PM CDT reply actions  

yes it doesnt take much for favre to say go deep.

That game just got crazy with holmes coming back and revis on moss again. I love it

Really?! Really?!

by thebigham on Oct 6, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

also

We might get a preview of the Superbowl then. The Jets had a scary D. Now their O is clicking and Holmes is back. WOW. Sanchez still hasnt thrown an INT.

Vikings you HAVE to put 8 in the box against them. Then you have Moss, and if Harvin and Rice get healthy.. look out. Not to mention a great D.

Ugh

Really?! Really?!

by thebigham on Oct 6, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha...

I just checked the live odds for the game and the line has already moved from -4 to -3. I guess that answers my question. :)

"Focus; Finish. Work on winning each play."
-- NY Jets 2010 philosophy --

by rick34125 on Oct 6, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

The only thing I wonder will Moss want a contract extension from the vikes?

Who will throw him the ball next year? The thought of mike vick makes the Vikings one bad ass scary get out of their way team.

Moss is a cowboy killer, changes the whole outlook on that entire game. If rice comes back healthy and in 80% of last years form the vikings are now the best team in the NFC.

Side note to put this in perspective a little more. Moss was had for a 3rd, Marshall a 2nd, Roy Williams 1,3,7. Jokes on Jerry I guess.

Really?! Really?!

by thebigham on Oct 6, 2010 12:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, yeah they do, and Favre now has the best receiver in the game to throw to

It’s 2010, not 2000…I don’t think Randy Moss is the best receiver in the game anymore.

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Oct 6, 2010 12:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Andre Johnson, Brandon Marshall, or Calvin Johnson maybe

and although it’s only 4 weeks in, Reggie Wayne is leading in catches and yards…

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Oct 6, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

you probably meant to reply to the above post

because that has nothing to do with talking about top WR. Anybody can see Austin is on track to remain among the Elite WRs in the NFL

Really?! Really?!

by thebigham on Oct 6, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Allow me a little homerism here

It’s a great day here, filled with nostalgia and hyperbole, as seen by the Cowboys poster who put up the Super Bowl trophies that are a combined 642 years old, they happened so long ago.

We’ll return to reality tomorrow, but let’s not ruin it right now.

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by Ted Glover on Oct 6, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha ok deal

In reality you know the Cowboy fans are terrified in their little cowboy boots that they have to face Moss aka Cowboy Killer.

Really?! Really?!

by thebigham on Oct 6, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Losers...

The collective secondaries of GB Chicago and Detroit, which, as has been well documented, are still soiling themselves. :)

by Runt of the Litter on Oct 6, 2010 12:55 PM CDT reply actions  

uummmm no

This isn’t the Favre to Moss hook up of the past……..it’s a 41 year qb passing to a quickly aging wide out who is on track to have a monster 569 total yards this year. Wow!! way to get a killer wide out six hundred yards!! I’m shakin over here in Green Bay!! LOL!!

by greenbay packers backer on Oct 7, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

sure...

just keep telling yourself that…

I BELIEVE...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Oct 7, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

stats don't lie

GP REC YDS AVG TD
4 9 139 15.44 3

Those ARE Randy Moss’s stats this year…….so 4 games played is a quarter of the season…. 139 yds times 4 is………….on pace for 556 yds this year.

Sorry I did lie I told you he was on pace for 569 yds.

Face it while both Favre and Moss are still better than avg. they are not anything like they use to be.

by greenbay packers backer on Oct 7, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

we know this rocks your world...

cling to those stats from the first 4 games…

and by all means… tell Capers not to worry… he’s over the hill, afterall.

I BELIEVE...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Oct 7, 2010 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

GBP I like you man but come on you wouldnt be over here spittin gas if you werent scared all your doing is showing your true side its ok to be scared just dont talk shit to cover it up :)!!!

by cali viking on Oct 7, 2010 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

He will be great.....

No doubt.
However something still feels fishy about this deal to me……….I’m not gonna rewrite a my post for you that’s over that APC but check it out to see what I mean.

Four downs on Moss deal.

by greenbay packers backer on Oct 7, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

BTW..

Nice tag line Ted, that’s funny as hell..

by Runt of the Litter on Oct 6, 2010 12:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Good from the Pats POV

Had to go for the bottom option in the poll – solves a short term problem of ours, and helps the Pats in the long term (it maybe a backward step for the short term, but I have a feeling that they’ll pick up Vincent Jackson in the post-season and maybe with the threatened cheap first year to deprive the Chargers of appropriate compensation). Just a shame that we couldn’t have packaged Jayme Mitchell and a 4th or 5th instead of using a 3rd as there seems to be good 3rd round pick-ups most years. Can see us using the 4th we got for Mitchell to trade back up in to the third.

by ViolentSilence on Oct 6, 2010 1:03 PM CDT reply actions  

It is

We Viking fans know a disgruntled Randy can be a major distractor, and it takes a lot of guts to move a top talent for a draft pick. But that’s always been Belichick’s MO, and it has served him well. And I really don’t see the Pats going after VJ. They won’t give up a 2 and a 3 for a guy that isn’t as good as Moss, when all they got is a three for Moss, and they want this guy to replace Moss. Bad PR, and it would smack of acknowledging they shouldn’t have traded Randy. No, they’ll develop a guy from within, and he’ll be money.

For Minnesota, it’s addition by addition, and for New England, it’s addition by subtraction. A true win-win, if you ask me.

But juuuuuuuuuust a little bit more win for the Vikes. :)

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by Ted Glover on Oct 6, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not to mention;

When it boils right down to it, Belicheck invested a 4th rounder to Oakland to “borrow” a guy who helped lead his team to the best offensive showing in football, plus two solid, distraction-free years despite circumstances… and then get a 3rd round pick for an older, more-used version of himself 3 years later.

Sure it wasn’t a Masterstroke on both parts?

by Casey H on Oct 6, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Love the move either way;

And it’s a purple #84 I have on now though. ;)

SKOL!

by Casey H on Oct 6, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have a purple #84

Hoping to get a white #84 :)

by Deek on Oct 6, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is a rumour...

… That VJ will look to take a contract with a low valued first year which’ll affect what is given up for him, so he might only net the chargers a 5th rounder or worse. If that’s true, I can definitely see the Pats bringing him in to take the pressure off a young developing guy. You’re right, in that if the Chargers can force them to pay the same offer we made them or better he won’t be going, but I think there are a few more twists to come as both sides seem intent on ruining the other in SD. Could be an interesting mess out west come February…

by ViolentSilence on Oct 6, 2010 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pats fan prospective:

After three years in New England, our division has made steps to stop Randy Moss. Brady’s got a variety of new targets to the tune that Randy was only targeted ONE time on Monday night – for an incompletion. I love Randy Moss and the guy is still a beast, but the Pats offense has to evolve and has evolved to become more diverse.

You’ve probably all read stories about how disgruntled Randy was in New England. It’s absolute BS. He was a good soldier even when he had Matt Cassel throwing to him. If anything, he was worried about how to stay competitive when teams were constantly trying to take him out of the game. He’s not the same Randy Moss that left Minnesota. He’s a little less of an athletic freak, and a whole lot smarter player. Overall, it’s a good trade off.

If Randy left in free agency (which he likely would), the Pat’s would get a max of a fifth round compensatory pick in 2012. The got him for a fourth rounder, let him catch 50 TD’s in three years, and now get a third rounder in 2011. Randy’s worth more than that, but it’s still a good value. It also might be a gift to Randy BECAUSE he’s been such a good soldier. He gets to go back home.

I hope he does great for you except, of course, when you play the Pats. Take care.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 6, 2010 1:39 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

well said..

And I bet you’ll be a Vikings fan when we plays the Jets on MNF, right??

by Deek on Oct 6, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hate the Jets, so of course on Monday night I'm wearing purple.

I also hope that Jared Allen and Mark Sanchez become good acquaintances.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 6, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

hahah

Than we can see what kind of new Sack Dance Jared Allen Performs.. :)

by Deek on Oct 6, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

I was saying the same thing. The division drafted and evolved to stop the powerhouse Pats. They got players in to stop Moss and shut down Brady. Well guess what BB is three steps ahead and just did a 180 on those suckers. Haha

Really?! Really?!

by thebigham on Oct 6, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

We've played all three division foes once this season.

The next time they see us, the Pats will be a different team. For better or for worse.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 6, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

good point...

and the Vikes have played their weakest division foe and we’ll be different team when we face the rest too.

I BELIEVE...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Oct 6, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Another Pats fan here, I agree with SlotMachinePlayer entirely. As our foes became more & more adept at stopping Moss, his production has gone down and has forced the team to shift in another direction.

I also firmly believe (with SlotMachinePlayer) that there is true, authentic respect between Belichick and Moss. I am pretty sure that if the Pats contacted the other 30 teams in the league, someone out there would have offered more than just a 3rd. So why did the Pats “settle” for a 3rd from Minn? I honestly think because Belichick felt that Randy had earned it…that as long as the Vikings were willing to offer something that could reasonably be construed as “fair,” they would send Randy where he wanted to go rather than merely dangle him to the highest bidder.

by JohnPaul on Oct 6, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seemed like Brady really liked him as well

I’m glad he’s back and I’m reasonably glad he’s not leaving any ill feelings behind. Oh and it’s nice to think Bellicheck has a soul. Not that he has one, but it’s nice to think he does.

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Oct 6, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's got one.

He may have taken it from someone else, but he’s got one.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 6, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Belichick has a locked chest full of souls right beside his war-chest of draft picks: )

His deal with the devil means that he has to at all times keep more draft picks than souls or he goes straight to hell and can’t bring his hoodie with him : )

by CanadianViking on Oct 6, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

+84

+81 out of respect for well-spoken NE fans though. Gotta give them credit for being class acts.

by Casey H on Oct 6, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree

Thank you Pats for taking good care of our #84.

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by Admiral BigGun on Oct 7, 2010 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the inside look :)

I figured Randy learned his lessons a while back, I saw the look on his face sitting on the bench in Oakland and I figured Belichik did too, before taking a chance on him. We had to let him go but we’re damned happy to have our Prodigal Son back :)

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Oct 6, 2010 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

And who the hell would vote it was a dumb move some people must be that scared of the 4 to 84 connection I can hear PA screaming TD TD RANDY MOSS ALREADY this is a great day to be a viking fan SKOL!!!!

by cali viking on Oct 6, 2010 2:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Still believe it

I honestly believe that when Randy is motivated, he is the best WR in the league. Better than Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson and Miles Austin. Yes even better than Larry Fitzgerald.

Of course, motivation has always been Randy’s Achilles heel but I don’t think he’ll need much help getting fired up after this. Prove the Pats wrong, revitalize his MN fanbase, play with Brett, BEAT the Pats on Halloween, win a Super Bowl. The list goes on.

by Cobra312004 on Oct 6, 2010 2:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Loser

Minnesota’s defense… They’ll be on the field a lot longer than they have been once Randy starts the TD show. Even if he’s half the player he was in 98 he’s got twice the QB throwing him the ball.

God how cool would it be for Moss to win a SB with the Vikings?

Yes I know the kool aid is great today tomorrow we’ll talk about facts…

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Oct 6, 2010 2:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Love your last line...

Tomorrow, we’ll discuss facts…

HAHAHA!!!

by Deek on Oct 6, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey Grime dont knock Randal C he had a hell of a year in 98!!!

by cali viking on Oct 6, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Losers: future Vikings teams. I would have hoped that we could have given up something less than a third round pick for a contract that runs out in 3-4 months. But, desperate times call for desperate measures, I guess.

If there was any doubt remaining that Zygi was not all-in on going the distance this season … they are out the window now.

Winners: Packers’ fans’ psyches. There may have still been a few out there that were straddling the fence on the Vikings, still pulling for them as their #2 team or whatever out of deference to Favre. I know a few of them, and it is a difficult position to be in (I wouldn’t be able to manage it). But now, with Moss da Mooner back on the team … I think the cognitive dissonance is gone. They will hate the Vikings, and sleep better on Saturday nights for it.

by puddnhead on Oct 6, 2010 3:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah I saw that now. And I’ve also rethought the loser part. I think a 3rd rounder is probably a good price to pay. I guess I was just getting a little worried that there are so many players becoming FA or retiring next year … there are gonna be lots of holes to fill.

On the 3rd rounder aspect: I was amazed to learn that NE could have gotten a 3rd round pick merely as compensation if they’d just kept Moss & he then signed elsewhere after contract ran out this winter. I did not know that. Yow, in that context 3rd rounder seems almost like too little for NE to have asked for …

by puddnhead on Oct 6, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually no

There were rumors floating around yesterday that the Pats would get a 3rd compensatory, but that is incorrect. Based on the number of seasons accrued, actually the most the Pats would get would be a 5th round compensatory. And that of course would be in 2012.

So basically, the gave up 12 games with Moss this season in order to get a 3rd rounder in 2011 rather than a 5th rounder in 2012.

by JohnPaul on Oct 6, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

message to Mr. Childress...

thank you (if you even had a small role in adding the dimension to the Vikings’ offense that they were surely lacking – and the best deep threat in the game today in Randy)…I admit that I’ve been hard on you in the past…but, please do me two favors…you now have the pieces for a very successful team, but please don’t let that limit the ability of this team to be a little more creative in the play calling…and also, please put your ego to the side and allow Brett to lead this very talented team to the promised land…and a big thank you to Ziggy for being Steinbrenner like, as I previously requested, in not only saying you were all in this year, but actually doing something about it!!!

by Pro-American on Oct 6, 2010 3:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Why not sell your soul for rock & roll though? You gotta give Ziggy (and/or) Chilly credit for at least having the eggs espanol to pull the trigger on something.

A couple picks in the first round of a another strong draft and why not move on Vick in the offseason. Philly won’t be too desperate to keep him and he’s got a great couple years left. If not, it’s a good draft for QBs and the Vikings have a couple solid years of picking “hits” behind them.

Talk about THE Prototypical X,Y,Z, TE, RB, QB offense. Assuming you can resign both Randy & Sid for 2 – 3 and 3 – 5 more respective years. Hell, Favre wants to be the first Modern-Era backup player/positional QB coach? I’m down. Peyton pretty much does that duty as a full time player up in Indy already.

Our O-line needs a little re-tooling but… we’ve got young depth most other areas. Could be good few seasons for the Purple.

All I’m sayin’ is, God Bless the Gunslingers, Every One of ‘em’.

by Casey H on Oct 6, 2010 3:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Sidney

What is all the talk about him losing and/or not getting paid? The Vikes would be stupid to resign Moss and then let the much younger talent in Rice walk. He doesn’t have the speed like Randy used to, but then again neither does Randy. While I am excited to see him in a Vikings uniform Rice is the future not him.

by Galkuris on Oct 6, 2010 4:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Get em both

Moss still has tread left on his tires…

He just may eventually fall to a solid #2 receiver versus #1…

In my theory, both #1s & #2s need to be able to have speed and jump vertically for a ball…
Especially as d-backs close gaps once they seen a ball thrown to the receiver.

by Deek on Oct 6, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

We can sign both if Favre stays retired after this year.

Pat Williams and Ben Leber will probably be let go/retired as well and this is the last year of guaranteed money for Berrian so we should have about 25-30 million in salary coming off the books at the end of the year. Randy wants 9-10 for probably 2-3 years and Sidney will probably get about 6-7 million with incentives because of his injury. That should leave us enough money to resign Greenway and have 5-6 million left over to extend either Shiancoe or Edwards.

by CanadianViking on Oct 6, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he can stay healthy

and make intelligent decisions. A player who has out of the last three years only played out one because of injuries is not my idea of a solid player.

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Oct 7, 2010 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

One huge loser you missed

Kendra Baskett. His raison d’etre for being here just got squashed by a huge rolling boulder gathering Moss.

Which brings up a good point. Someone has to be cut to make room for Randy, right? Who is it, is it known yet? My pick is Baskett.

by puddnhead on Oct 6, 2010 5:02 PM CDT reply actions  

we made room for Randy with Mitchell to Cleveland...

who needs to go when Rice comes back will be the question.

I BELIEVE...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Oct 6, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let Baskett and Berrian compete :)

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by DCPurple on Oct 6, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

a fight til the death?

a little dramatic, don’t you think?

by Deek on Oct 6, 2010 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

All I know is I see Tina Turner in the back ground

and Chilly playing the sax.

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Oct 7, 2010 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I personally don't care if you guys beat the shit out of Detroit.

Well, I do, because then I’m sad that we lost again, but you guys are the only team to beat us by a larger margin than five points. Hell, you had two whole touchdowns on us, even Green Bay can’t claim that.

Rambling aside, beat the shit out of Chicago. I don’t care about Green Bay, just destroy Chicago. I’m still mad about that (no-)catch.

Also

Dear Green Bay, Chicago, and Detroit: Suck. Our. Purple. Balls.

Isn’t that a bit unhealthy?

by Doc Scratch on Oct 6, 2010 9:21 PM CDT reply actions  

I was even able to pick up Favre off the waiver wire on several fantasy teams today.

Moss adds a lot to his value.

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Oct 6, 2010 9:22 PM CDT reply actions  

It's Christmas in October !!!

WCG gave their view on the subject . By banning me for being polite ….. This is a clear sign that WCG’s heads hurt more than Cutler’s concussion could ever cause . And the Pack sites other than SBN’s are comparing our 3rd round steal to their 3rd round blunder in allowing Lynch/Buf to get away . Siting their difference in management philosophy . As the Pack has nothing to do but wait to see which of their THREE PUP guys can come back in week 7 . As they are devastated with injuries in many areas and on both sides of the ball . As the easiest part of their schedule has come to a close . Wait until week 8 , 9 , and 10 as we salivate at Sidney Rice’s return to the Offense ! Know we need to get information on the Rehab of Shank and Percy ? Come on fellas get cracking !

by gothicpurple on Oct 6, 2010 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Is Baskett worth trading ? Or Greg Lewis ?

I see Berrian in the fourth WR role after Sidney’s return . A matchup with opposing nickels on deep routes will be magical . Since double coverage from top CB’s has him outmatched . And I pray that Brad can continue to increase Camarillo’s catches .

by gothicpurple on Oct 6, 2010 9:29 PM CDT reply actions  

I would like to see Berrian traded away

I think we’re done with his garunteed money so I’m hoping if we can keep Moss and Rice he goes away to make some room.

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Oct 7, 2010 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dear Green Bay, Chicago, and Detroit: Suck. Our. Purple. Balls

Wow……shocked to hear such garbage from a Ted Glover post….WTF is going on here??

by greenbay packers backer on Oct 7, 2010 9:46 AM CDT reply actions  

I killed a guy with a trident

Think I’ll lay low for awhile, maybe find a safe house

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by Ted Glover on Oct 7, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

you killed a guy with a piece of gum? that's soooo mcgyver.

in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.

by jethrophet on Oct 7, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

it didn't even..........

make a ping on my radar until I saw it was written by Ted Glover. Your normally so unbiased that it shocked the hell out me. The world is super doopper purple and happy for you right now isn’t it??

by greenbay packers backer on Oct 7, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's all purple duckies and bunnies, GBPB

I understood the Moss trade from Minnesota, but didn’t like it. He had done worse than the mooning incident, and when taken in context with Green Bay fans doing it to the opposing team’s bus, I thought it was hysterical. At the time, I thought it was a straw breaking the camel’s back incident, so I could swallow it. But it really wasn’t that at all, looking back.

What it really was was Red McCombs wanting to break it off in our ass as he walked out the door because he didn’t get a new stadium, and Culpepper wanted to be the undisputed star of the team.

Tice didn’t stand up and say no hard enough, if he did at all. And Wilf wasn’t the owner yet, so he couldn’t stop it.

So yeah, I’m so rolling around in super duper purple I can’t see straight, because this is not only a great deal for the Vikings, regardless of whether or not Moss signs an extension, this is a wrong being made right.

My whole life as minnesota sports fan has seen our superstars go elsewhere to win a championship, with the exception of Kirby Puckett. It’s nice to have the superstars from other teams (Hutch, Allen, Favre, now Moss) coming here to try and win one.

It’s a great feeling. One that Ted Thompson has no clue about.

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by Ted Glover on Oct 8, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

YOU STAY CLASSY GREEN BAY!!!!

by cali viking on Oct 7, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

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