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The Illusions And The Delusions Of Randy Moss Haters

You know, I've gotten a little more active on Twitter recently, and over the course of the past couple of days, I've been reminded of a couple of things. First off. . .man, there are some idiots out there. But more importantly than that, I am reminded of something that I haven't had to think a whole lot about since Randy Moss was traded away from Minnesota in 2005.

There's only one group of fans in professional football that are more passionate than Randy Moss fans. . .and they are Randy Moss haters.

Verily, as soon as it was announced that Randy Moss was coming back to where he started, all of the crap from the past started being flung around by opposing fans. And, you know, I can't say I blame them. . .after all, if I had spent the last few days watching my team fall apart because of injuries (hello, Green Bay) or because of deficiencies in our coaching staff's scheme (hello, Chicago) and saw that one of my team's rivals had brought in the greatest receiver of this generation, I'm sure I'd dredge up as much crap as humanly possible, too. Really, what else would I do in that scenario?

But so much of what the Moss haters have to say about the man is garbage. Pure, simple, unadulterated garbage. So, for the uninitiated or the uninformed, allow me to educate you. You probably won't listen, but I'll lay it out here for you anyway. We'll go through the myths one at a time.

Star-divide

Randy Moss was traded from Minnesota because of his behavioral transgressions.

Not true. Not remotely close to true. Randy Moss was traded from Minnesota because Red McCombs was a bitter, jaded old jackass that wanted to kick the sports fans of Minnesota in the teeth on his way out the door because he didn't get the sparkling new stadium he wanted. He threatened to move the team and everything else, and the people of Minnesota, and the state's leadership, couldn't get together on a stadium deal. Knowing that Minnesota was never going to build him a stadium, he set about selling the team to Reggie Fowler (Fowler was later bumped in favor of Wilf in the consortium that collaborated to purchase the team).

Upon getting wind of the rumors of a potential Randy Moss trade, Fowler, and then Wilf, asked McCombs not to do it. But ol' Red had his mind made up. He was going to get rid of Moss, purely and simply out of spite. . .and despite the fact that the sale had been basically agreed to and the new ownership had asked him not to do so, Red knew that there wasn't a damn thing Wilf could do about it. So, on the first day of the free agency period in 2005, Moss was shipped to the Oakland Raiders for the seventh overall pick in the 2005 draft, a seventh-round pick in that same draft, and linebacker Napoleon Harris.

If the Vikings were going to get rid of Randy Moss solely on the basis of his behavior, they would have done so long before they actually did. But they weren't going to get rid of him for that reason. There was never an inkling of sending Randy Moss out of Minnesota until it came time for ol' Red McCombs to sell the team and get the heck out of Dodge. Depending on who you believe, Moss may or may not have called McCombs a "cheap bastard," providing McCombs with the impetus to trade him, but that could also be an embellishment.

Randy Moss is a really, really, bad, terribly, awful, mean, nasty, rotten person.

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm. . .no. See, the great thing about Moss haters is that they get to latch on to all the crap they hear, and manage to forget. . .or straight-up ignore. . .anything else. But, when you're under the impression that your team is comprised of nothing but Boy Scouts that spend their Saturday afternoons helping out at soup kitchens and helping little old ladies cross the street, you'll do those sorts of things. Has Randy Moss been an angel off the field? Nope, he sure hasn't. And guess what? The only people that care. . .are the haters.

Seriously, have you ever seen the list of charitable work that Randy Moss has done? It's pretty damn impressive. Whether it's a charity golf event, a celebrity fishing tournament (which took place in Minnesota after he was traded to Oakland), forming the Links for Learning Foundation (with fellow West Virginian and NBA player Jason Williams) or numerous other works that weren't publicized for various reasons, Randy Moss has brought smiles, levity, and relief to more people that you can possibly count or imagine.

But, as I said, many people will ignore this and simply tell us that Randy Moss is a jerk. Then again, many of these people are fans of a team that currently has a player awaiting trial to see whether or not he'll be spending 20 years in a federal, pound me in the ass prison on drug charges, so maybe they don't have any real standing to be critical of the guy. In fact, they should probably feel free to sit the hell down, shut the hell up, and find themselves a freaking clue. Amazing that, if it wasn't for double standards, some people would have no standards at all.

Randy Moss only plays when he wants to play.

I think this is my favorite Moss myth. Why? Because this is usually the card that Moss haters pull when they don't have anything else left. This declaration is stupid, and it makes the people who say it sound stupid. . .which is usually no big deal, because anybody that would make this declaration is, indeed, stupid.

People want to cite occasions when he jogs off the line or misses blocks or things like that, and that's fine. I understand, haters gotta hate and all that sort of thing. But to suggest Randy Moss doesn't bust his tail on the football field is the pinnacle of ignorance. Disagree? Well, then, let the education continue. . .

Let's start with a list of all of the wide receivers in the history of the National Football League that have caught 150 or more touchdown passes.

-Jerry Rice
-Randy Moss

And. . .yeah, that's the entire list right there. Not Cris Carter, not Tim Brown, not Terrell Owens, not Marvin Harrison, not Isaac Bruce, not Torry Holt. . .Rice, Moss, done. Pretty hard to imagine that a guy could reel in 151 career touchdown passes without really trying, isn't it? Of course it is. But that doesn't stop your average Randy Moss hater.

Nor does the fact that, in addition to being second all-time in touchdown receptions (and fourth all-time in total touchdowns behind Rice, Emmitt Smith, and LaDanian Tomlinson), Moss is also fifth all-time in receiving yards and tenth all-time in receptions. The top five all-time in receiving yardage looks like this:

-Rice - 22,895 yards (303 career games)
-Owens - 15,325 yards (209 career games)
-Bruce - 15,208 yards (223 career games)
-Brown - 14,934 yards (255 career games)
-Moss - 14,604 yards (189 career games)

Wow. . .for a guy that really doesn't try, he sure does have a lot of receiving yards in not very many games.

Oh, and one other little "gee whiz" sort of thing that might interest some folks. The 2007 New England Patriots scored more points in a season than any team in NFL history, putting 589 points up on the board. The offense they unseated for the title of highest-scoring offense ever was the 1998 Minnesota Vikings, a team that put 556 points on the scoreboard. There's only one player that was a part of both of those offenses.

Go ahead. . .take a second and see if you can guess who it might be. I'll wait.

Ah, never mind, I'll just tell you. . .it's Randy Moss. Shocking, huh? I mean, for a guy that really doesn't try, he sure does have a weird tendency to make the offenses he's a part of better, doesn't he? It's almost as though people have to account for him when he's on the field or something. Man, could you imagine if he actually put an effort forward?

I have to applaud the Moss haters on their passion and their tenacity and all that. But your average Moss hater easily ranks among the most ignorant, uneducated, and misinformed fans in the NFL pantheon. Sure, they're passionate about what they hate, but the overwhelming majority are absolutely, positively clueless as to why.

Oh, well. . .I believe that the Latin phrase that applies here is oderint dum metutant. Loosely translated?

"Let them hate us, so long as they fear us."

And if people aren't scared now. . .rest assured, they're going to be.

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This is fun.

Great work again Chris. I really like it when you get pissed off at fans of other teams—it inspires you to churn out some of your best work!

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by Eric J. Thompson on Oct 9, 2010 9:00 PM CDT reply actions  

This is true

Moss haters are so stupid and so ignorant, it makes for an easy write. Hell, this thing practically wrote itself.

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by Christopher Gates on Oct 9, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

One to add...

’Randy’s Kids’ Is that the name of it??
Randy had been providing seats to the game for ‘needy’ kids while he was here…
and then paid for them out of his pocket while in Oakland and New England.

So… kids got to see Vikings football courtesy of Randy Moss for 5 years.

I BELIEVE...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Oct 9, 2010 9:01 PM CDT reply actions  

+84

It’s good to have him back with us. This time for good, I hope.

by medicineball on Oct 9, 2010 9:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Great post Chris +84 hell yes they will be scared very scared!!!

by cali viking on Oct 9, 2010 9:08 PM CDT reply actions  

I still can't believe it

Moss is a Viking again? We spent less than a 3rd round pick on him? What? Can’t wait till MNF. What are Moss’ stats in prime time? They’ve gotta be good!

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by dthompson on Oct 9, 2010 9:10 PM CDT reply actions  

F**k Me...

Talk about inspiring me. Great stuff here, and this should lay the hating to rest, if the reader has a clue.

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Uff-da!

by Shazbot996 on Oct 9, 2010 9:19 PM CDT reply actions  

But that's the thing

Most don’t.

Hell, I had one airhead on Twitter tell me that Moss was hated, and that was the reason that the Vikings traded him away. Which totally makes sense, especially when you look at the way that pretty much the entire damn fan base was hoping and praying for him to come back to Minnesota from the first time he held a press conference as a Raider.

There should be some form of physical pain involved with being as stupid as your average Moss hater is.

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by Christopher Gates on Oct 9, 2010 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

You guys may think I'm a Randy Moss hater but I'm not.

I still think you guys got the better part of the deal, Moss is a nice upgrade. The only thing I said you need to worry about is your O-line and Favre’s play because if they aren’t playing well neither will Moss. That’s just the simple truth.

As for Moss only playing when he wants to… I know his stats, I know his achievements but with so many people criticizing him for a lack of effort I can’t argue with them. I know you guys want to bash Revis and Cromartie since you play them Monday night but they aren’t the first nor will they be the last to say Moss put his foot on the brake. Even Bill Belichick said Moss doesn’t put forth 100% of effort all the time. People who face Moss that actually play against him, his own teammates, his own coach all say the same thing and I won’t argue with them because they are all more familiar with Moss’ effort than we are.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 9, 2010 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing!

I LOVE the fact that Moss is back however I am also scared what will happen a few years down the road when the warm fuzzy romance feeling wears off.

Call me a hater if you will but I am not convinced that he is not a total team player i think he is quite selfish and that can be very dangerous.

"If you've got them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow."

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by just another viking on Oct 9, 2010 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am not convinced he is a total team player

sorry must be too late

"If you've got them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow."

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by just another viking on Oct 9, 2010 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

...and...

2003 – Moss became the first wide receiver in history to average over 100 yards and one touchdown per contest over the course of a season spanning more than 12 games. Moss played in 16 games, setting career highs in receiving yards (1,632) and receptions (111), and matched his rookie mark of 17 TD catches. He also joined Jerry Rice, Marvin Harrison, Herman Moore, and Rod Smith as the only receivers to record back-to-back 100-catch seasons.

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by Thor.in.your.side on Oct 9, 2010 9:49 PM CDT reply actions  

I can understand your argument.

He is no doubt a hall of famer, one of the best ever but the guy is getting older and I can’t argue with players, teammates and coaches accusing him of lacking effort. They know and see much more than we do. The statistical story doesn’t always tell the tale. Especially when a player gets older, they all lose a step. Just sayin.

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by MikeTheIntern on Oct 9, 2010 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

So what if he has lost a step...

he even admitted this fact in his first press conference since his return. But there are very few WRs that ever have that “step” that he might have lost. So I’ve got the feeling that he’s…still a damn good WR.

by Norse Force on Oct 10, 2010 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

>More than Terrell Owens

Hey buddy, he’s two off, and he’ll catch ’em in stripes. >:v

But yeh, I hear you, the whole “bad person” vibes are known commodity. TO and Ocho both earned the reputation as a headcase, but most people who follow Chad know this isn’t the case and while T.O. has a reputation for throwing his QB under the bus, that doesn’t mean he’s out there doing drugs or causing fights. He does good things as well. People just gotta hate.

by Doc Scratch on Oct 9, 2010 10:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Exactly

It’s not like T.O. or Ocho or Moss ran a dogfighting ring or something. (Hello, Michael Vick.)

It’s not as though they go around banging anything with a pulse and all the right parts simply because they feel they’re entitled to do so. (Hello, Big Ben.)

It’s not as though they’re getting drunk and driving down the streets of New York at 5 am. (Hello, Braylon Edwards.)

It’s not as though they’re punching their teammates during practice. (Hello, Steve Smith.)

No, they’re different. . .and for all the crap about people not liking conformity, they sure as hell don’t seem to like it when people are different, either.

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by Christopher Gates on Oct 9, 2010 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

But...

He kind of doesn’t try when he isn’t in love with his situation.
First off, I love Randy, always have, always will. And I know that most Viking fans do. He would have been applauded on the 31st no matter which jersey he was wearing. Now I’m only 20, but I remember some of his last games in Minnesota and his games in Oakland (since I live out there), and it looked like he wasn’t “trying”.
Either way, I’m not scared about him not putting it all on the field. He is happy to be back in MN.

On a side note, when he said it was good to be home, my heart filled up in a way my girlfriend could never do

by StuckInCA on Oct 9, 2010 10:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Whats hillarious is that even if Moss wasn't a quitter...

Favre’s head is all screwed up and his elbow is so messed up that he can’t practice. Personally, i think the whole elbow thing is just a convenient excuse for Granpa to avoid making the trip to NY.

Here’s to the New York sweep.

by Crackback on Oct 9, 2010 11:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Go troll somewhere else!

"If you've got them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow."

John Wayne

by just another viking on Oct 9, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

He has to

He can’t troll here any more.

I apologize for it taking me as long as it did.

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by Christopher Gates on Oct 9, 2010 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right on

"If you've got them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow."

John Wayne

by just another viking on Oct 9, 2010 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not the first time, either

Apparently Charger fans, Colt fans, and Patriot fans have gotten tired to listening to his drivel at various points, too. Can’t imagine why.

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by Christopher Gates on Oct 9, 2010 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

what about the other guy?

in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.

by jethrophet on Oct 9, 2010 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you Chris but allow him back for one hour on monday after the game when we smash the jets so we can have at him :) but hell yes thank you for getting him gone it was getting old!!!

by cali viking on Oct 10, 2010 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

You can also add Dolphins and Bills fans to your short list of guys that can't stand him.

AssCrack there is the pride of New York for sure. That’s the best name for him because he spews so much shit. They love him on GGN, though.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 11, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

good man.

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by rmc235 on Oct 9, 2010 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you sir.

You saved me a lot of time.

And great article. Appreciate the hard work on your part.

by izziefans on Oct 10, 2010 2:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good article but...

If you want to lose the haters then be less inflammatory. The facts all speak for themselves. Same goes for the Twitter feed (hastags likes #packerssuck is hardly gonna help). Return to journalism and lose the bear baiting, it’s boring and doesn’t solve the problem that you suppose it does.

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by Curvespace on Oct 10, 2010 4:41 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Wow.

I learned alot from reading this. I never hated him before, but I love him now. :D

Melkman is my homie. :D

by Cup Noodles on Oct 10, 2010 9:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Randy is an alltime great when the ship is sailing fast.

If Vikes can get the ship sailing right quickly – This will be a season saving move.
If Vikes & Favre continue to struggle – This will be a painfully hilarious disaster.
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by DNelsonAndersonFarvetookmySB on Oct 10, 2010 9:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Don't be a Moss-Denier!
Randy Moss was traded from Minnesota because of his behavioral transgressions.
Not true. Not remotely close to true. Randy Moss was traded from Minnesota because Red McCombs was a bitter, jaded old jackass that wanted to kick the sports fans of Minnesota in the teeth on his way out the door because he didn’t get the sparkling new stadium he wanted. He threatened to move the team and everything else, and the people of Minnesota, and the state’s leadership, couldn’t get together on a stadium deal.

I saw MB suggest the same thing, although not as outright as you are. I remember what happened, real well. I remember Moss’s antics and the hugely bad PR the Vikings were getting because of it. I remember how the fanbase was totally fed up with it, and I don’t remember ANYONE singing the praises of Randy Moss back then. He was the heart of the Viking’s cancer and doing his best to turn the Vikings into the laughing stock of the NFL. And you say that his behavioral issues had nothing to do with the Vikings dumping the finest WR in the NFL off to the worst team in the NFL for a draft pick and a so-so LB named Napoleon? I don’t often disagree with you, Chris, but this time I’m seriously skeptical.

You think that McCombs did it out of spite. That’s a motivational statement, what do you have to back that up? Did he say, “I hate those Purple Bastids and I’m gonna screw ‘em now that I’m leaving!” ? Did he say anything to indicate that was his motivation? Do you have something, some reference to stand on for this?

McCombs is a businessman, and even Randy Moss today readily acknowledges that the NFL is a business, and that it might be better if the fans realized that. I think he’s wrong, because the day the fans realize, gut deep, that the NFL is a business, is the day the NFL dies. Fans don’t jump and scream their passion for a business. They don’t spend mega-bucks they can’t afford on grossly overpriced tickets and jerseys, for a business. Best for the NFL if we fans live in denial of the business side of the game, and focus on the competition.

I don’t know what McComb’s motivation was for dumping Moss, except that maybe he was listening to the Commish, the pundits on ESPN and elsewhere, and the fans, who all wanted something done about the national embarassment that the Minnesota Vikings had become. It’s even possible that he felt it was the best thing for the team, and for Moss. I don’t know what his motivation was, but if you do, show me some substantiation on it. I really want to know the truth about it.

I do know, in hindsight, what was the impact of letting Randy go. I think it was a really good thing. The Vikings started their 12-Step Program to recovery, Randy Moss got a wake-up call that probably saved his career if not his life, the Raiders got some great PR, the Patriots got a shot in the arm for a few years, and the NFL’s image got cleaned up a little.

If you want to get all conspiratorial about it, what if the entire dance was decided on and orchestrated by the NFL owners? Maybe they sat around in a backroom full of smoke and sleazy eye-candy, and decided that Moss was too valuable to the NFL to waste but too damaging to let continue, so they decided to send him to Oakland for rehab, and if he straightened out, a disciplinarian HC like Belichick could have him for a few years to make sure it sticks, but then he goes back to the Minnesota. Maybe his return to Minnesota was decided before he even left.

Of course, I have no substantiation for that… :)

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by DCPurple on Oct 10, 2010 9:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Problem with theories and assumptions

is that they are notoriously hard to prove. Why Moss was traded has never been stated with real clarity by the FO. What we do know is that Red was unhappy and Zygi was the proposed new owner. we also know Zygi intended to change the culture of the Vikings. It is just as plausible that Red and Zygi worked together to trade Moss and make the new owner not look like the bad guy. Red looked like a bad sport but he has millions and why should he care what Viking fans think of him?
It sure looks like Moss has learned alot and grew up. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and let time prove whether he is a real team guy or not.

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John Wayne

by just another viking on Oct 10, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reposting from another thread

I made this comment from my other Moss post about a wrong being made right. This might help:

1. McCombs was selling the team. Whether Moss stayed or was traded, he was no longer going to McCombs’ problem. Even so, he said overall Moss wasn’t a problem. So why trade him then?

2. Fowler (then Wilf) asked him not to trade Moss multiple times. If he’s not a problem and the new owner doesn’t want him traded…why?

3. McCombs had repeatedly said the only reason he was selling the team was because he couldn’t get a new stadium, and he couldn’t get out of the lease and move the franchise, and he was angry about that. Back during all of this I wrote for another Vikes site that is now defunct, and I was able to develop a decent source in the organization. Off the record this person told me that McCombs was within days or weeks of planning a relocation, but the league office told him not to do it, and they wouldn’t support him. And he was PISSED, primarily at Gov Ventura and the MN Legislature that he couldn’t. That’s when he decided to really go on the cheap and sell the franchise. This was late 2003 or early 2004, if I remember correctly. For McCombs it was all about the money.

4. He was despised by Vikings fans, because he was a cheapskate and wouldn’t spend money on free agents and on facilities. I remember Tice paying money out of pocket to fix the air conditioning at Winter Park. McCombs was pissed that Tice fixed it and that it made the papers. I actually went to the 2005 Draft Party at Winter Park, and I’ve never heard anyone booed as mercilessly as I heard McCombs get booed. Honestly, Brack Obama would get a better reception at a Tea Party meeting than McCombs got. You could tell he was furious.

By the end, McCombs was pissed off at Minnesota, both the fans and the politicians, and this was a way to ensure that he got the last laugh.

Yes, Moss had done some embarassing things, but the bigger deal was the walking off the field incident at Washington. In The Moon Over Lambeau incident, there were many national pundits coming to Moss’ defense, most notably Chris Collinsworth and I want to say Howie Long (could be wrong on the last one). But the furor had pretty much died down after the Vikes lost to Philly in the playoffs…until Daunte Culpepper started running his mouth at the Pro Bowl and re-ignited everything, remember?

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by Ted Glover on Oct 10, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep I do remember

I read your thread and do not disagree with you. But what you are referring to is the published version of events. IMO the FO has never given a clear reason for the trade other than the speculation of Red giving us all the finger. I think it is possible that Zygi was ok with the trade. If he really wanted to stop the trade he could have argued that the price of the team had changed due to the loss of a star player, but I have never heard that argument was ever made. I have no idea what happened other than what was reported.

I have put several large business deals together and every time it is required that the business maintain its value (product, sales, services or persons). I have never bought something equivalent to the value of the vikings but the principals hold true no matter the size.
That is why I think it is possible that the trade was engineered in the deal with Zygi.

"If you've got them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow."

John Wayne

by just another viking on Oct 10, 2010 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Product value

That’s a good point. Arguably, the value of the Vikings takes a nose-dive with the loss of Moss, for an owner to trash his product and expect to still be able to sell it at full price is unrealistic. I just don’t know. I’m not saying that McCombs was a great guy who just wanted what was best for Randy Moss, either. But the league had a serious stake in seeing that one of it’s highest-profile players was rehab’ed, and it’s one thing to be pissed off, but quite another to let your anger cost you millions of dollars.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Oct 10, 2010 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Randy the Nice Guy

Watch when he scores touchdowns in the dome, he usually finds a kid in a wheelchair to give the ball to. Not sure if he did the same in New England, but I imagine he probably did.

I always got a kick out his “antics” and never saw it as the problem the media did. The only thing that was a bummer was when he walked out on the Washington game. The guy quietly does tons for charity, is a solid business man, and an amazing football player, no matter the jersey on his back. He was never a “serious” troublemaker, in the mold of gangsters with guns.

Marvin Harrison was a quiet, well-liked guy….until he choked the shit out of a ballboy and was linked to murders at his car wash. Moss never had any of that baggage. He smoked a little kush “every blue moon”, sprayed a ref with a little water, and fake-mooned a fanbase that routinely real-moons their team bus.

Randy is friggin’ great.

by JMigz on Oct 10, 2010 9:52 AM CDT reply actions  

He did indeed.

There’s a video of Moss interacting on the big screen with 12 year old fan Josiah Shumaker, of New Haven, CT – a young kid who just happened to be wearing a Randy Moss mask at Gillette Stadium. A wise choice, it turned out.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 13, 2010 5:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think we need to stop being so defensive and obsessive about what other people are saying about this team. If you look at the fornt page of this site right now, that’s what 4 of the 5 articles are about. This is exactly the problem that these kind of issues cause, people lose sight of the football.

I guess its OK if the fans get all wrapped up in this stuff, as long at the players can avoid the distraction, but still … please, let’s cut it short after tomorrows game maybe?

by puddnhead on Oct 10, 2010 10:07 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Great comment puddnhead.

By being so defensive we’re on the verge of becoming the whiners that other teams like to accuse us of being. We should ignore the visiting idiots more instead of egging them on by responding to them. I know it’s hard not to reply to ignorance and I can’t do it all the time but we’ve gotta stop feeding the trolls : )

by CanadianViking on Oct 10, 2010 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

latest story smh

Did anyone hear about the latest BS story on the Moss trade- so that idiot Charlie Casserly was on CBS claiming there was an altercation between Moss and Brady over- of all things- hair….Brady suppoooooosedly told Moss that he needed to cut his hair and Moss supposedly replied that Brady needed to cut his Justin Bieber hair b/c it made him look like a girl- I think I’m starting to learn that as long as you put the work Report followed by a colon, you can make just about any claim in the press and get away with it-…

by ysoserious on Oct 11, 2010 12:03 AM CDT reply actions  

Great Post

You hit the nail on the head. Haters gotta hate. The only thing you forgot was the myth about him running over a female cop. (which was really a out of uniform/jurisdiction meeter maid was yelling at him &pounding on his car hood for parking in the wrong spot)

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by Admiral BigGun on Oct 11, 2010 9:54 AM CDT reply actions  

We've been defending Randy for years on Pats Pulpit. It's nice to see the Vikings fan perspective.

I front paged a link to this post on the Pulpit. Nice work.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 11, 2010 5:11 PM CDT reply actions  

recd

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by NinjaZX6R on Oct 11, 2010 6:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Terrific post

You get it. Some just plain don’t want to, but they’re sure missing out on something great.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 12, 2010 8:16 PM CDT reply actions  

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