Sidney Rice On The Verge Of Ticking Off Every Viking Fan In America
by Christopher Gates on Nov 16, 2010 8:18 PM CST
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PrintWe went over this a few weeks ago when Sidney Rice was first eligible to come off of the Physically Unable to Perform list. The Vikings had three weeks to move Rice to the active roster, or else he would go on injured reserve and miss the rest of the season.
Well, this Saturday is the deadline for such a thing to occur. So, he's going to be out on the field against the Packers this Sunday, right? Yeah, about that. . .not so fast, according to Chip Scoggins and Judd Zulgad of the Star-Tribune.
The synopsis, via the good folks at RotoWorld:
Rice made the decision not to play in Week 10. The beat writers believe that Rice and agent Drew Rosenhaus won't risk another injury in what is becoming a lost season. Rosenhaus may opt instead to "shop" Rice's 2009 stats in free agency. Per Scoggins, "it would not go over well" if the Vikings responded by using the franchise tag (assuming the option is still available) on Rice in 2011.
Hey, Mr. Rosenhaus, you know what else "doesn't go over well?" Having a client that knew he was injured in late January that neglected to have surgery to fix his problem until the first week of training camp. . .IN EARLY SEPTEMBER. Yeah, you go ahead and try to "shop his 2009 stats" in free agency. That's not going to make teams forget that the guy delayed hip surgery for six or seven months and had a history of injuries prior to this.
And "using the franchise tag" on Sidney Rice? Why in the heck would the Vikings do that? Teams use the franchise tag for one of two reasons. . .either they're going to get something of significant value in trade for the player, or they're willing to pay the price that the franchise tender entails.
To the first point. . .who the heck is going to give up anything of significance for a guy that's had one good year, has an injury history, and hosed his team over by not getting things taken care of sooner? To the second point. . .the franchise price for a wide receiver this past season was $9.521 million. Are you going to pony up that much for Sidney Rice, given the circumstances? Particularly in light of taking care of guys like Adrian Peterson and Chad Greenway. . .you know, guys that actually showed up to play in 2010.
For the first two years he was in the league, few people out there pimped Sidney Rice or believed in his physical abilities more than I did, despite his injuries and his inconsistencies. In his third year, he was rewarded as part of the Vikings' magical 2009 offense.
Now? I hate to say this. . .damn near pains me, actually. . .but the guy isn't, and shouldn't be, this team's top priority. He and Drew Rosenhaus should think of that if they can take a moment to stop thinking about themselves. Of course, if they were capable of doing that, we wouldn't be having this discussion in the first place, would we?
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Rosenhaus screws a client. People know what Rice can do based off last season, but they don’t know if he lost anything from the surgery. He’s probably going to take a paycut unless he comes back to prove he is still the same player.
Pirates, Vikings, Hokies. I'm used to heartbreak. At least I have the Penguins....
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-The Great One
by blackjackfishtaco on Nov 16, 2010 8:41 PM CST reply actions
Yeah, man
Why would somebody pay big bucks for a guy who might never play again? He better play the end of this season to prove he’s good again or he’s not gonna get jack on the open market. Unless the Raiders want him, then he could probably get 40 million guaranteed.
by princelyfrank on Nov 17, 2010 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
Not quite sure how this works...
But was waiting until September for surgery maybe an attempt to pick up an additional year of accrued free agency?
if so… I swear to god, Rosenhaus… you are the slimiest dink in the world.
"You are the slimiest dink in the world"
He already is, right?
NEXT QUESTION.
I'm still a Minnesotan at heart...
Good post
But in fairness to Sidney, it is the Vikings who are the parties to blame in my opinion.
The Vikings are using the 30% rule as an excuse to not give Rice & Greenway decent raises for the next two years IMO. Once a new CBA is agreed upon (and it will be) they can work out a longer contract if they choose.
Here are some facts.
The Vikings gave Jimmy Kennedy a new 2 year deal fro about 6 mil deal on March 13th.
They gave Benny Sapp a 2 year deal for 4.2 mil on March 9th.
They gave Favre an extra 3 to 7 mil. They wasted a draft pick and 1.5 mil on Moss.
They gave Cedric Griffen a 28.5 mil deal in March BEFORE his 4th year.
They have chosen NOT to give Edwards a new deal.
IMO this is not going over too well with the players and is a main reason why there is uninspired play this year. These dudes play for the money most of all.
I do not what they are doing. They definitely could have offered Sidney a 2 year 10 to 12 mil deal. Because of the 30% rule they would have had to guarantee all but about 1.2 mil of it but it would have probably been worth it.
Should he have had the surgery. Definitely yes. At the same time they could have insisted he have the surgery once they gave him a moderate increase. I mean Philly gave Kolb a 2 year deal when they thought he would be the starting QB.
I think this could and should have been done and I think it would have allowed the Vikings a chance to see if Sidney could repeat what he did in year 3. There really was no reason NOT to believe that he could provided he was healthy.
Greenway is making 1.3 mil thus year which is another crime when you consider that Kennedy, Sapp, Evans, and Farwell are all making more than him.
Just because the team has the upper hand on some guys does not mean they should use it. If the CBA was not expiring then you know that both Sidney and Chad would have new deals by now.
But because it is expiring and the 30% rule is in effect they do not want to guarantee too much money right now. But these are prime time players. It is a tough situation but they should have given them modest two year deals IMO especially when you consider how they have wasted some money already.
So why not make Sidney and Chad happy for a couple of years thereby allowing the team to buy some time on a larger deal to see if the players are really worth it?
IMO the Vikings front office is directly responsible for this situation this year.
Bad planning.
by MarkSP18 on Nov 16, 2010 8:45 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
They do have reason to believe he can't stay healthy though.
What good is a player who can’t stay on the field?
Okay...
I agree with you about money. Yes, guys play for money and the Vikes could have paid him and we wouldn’t be in this predicament. But at the same time, this is their job. Their job involves them preparing AHEAD of time by lifting, running, etc., studying their playbooks and then performing on Sunday. Rice chose to not have surgery until September. Surgeons told him that it would probably heal, depending on how he rehabbed, but surgery would ultimately fix everything (as it does most of the time). He chose to forgo surgery and then decided to HAVE surgery. Now, after getting ready to play, he’s possibly not going to because he thinks this year is lost? C’mon man! Do your job! Get on the field (along with BB as well) and DO YOUR JOB. If any of us, normal human beings would pull half the crap that some professional athletes do (ask for more money, demand not to play, etc.) we’d be canned right then and there. This is a team game and so far Rice has let his team down and he’ll be letting them down even more if he decides that he’s not “ready” to play because he doesn’t want to get hurt. Pull up the panties Rice and help Minny to a victory over the damn Packers!
Player's have to play to get their money.
Greeway will get his extension because he’s playing well in his contract year. This was Sidney’s year to prove that last year wasn’t an anomaly, he isn’t injury prone, and that he’s worth 10 million a year. To this point he’s avoided surgery and is now considering throwing in the towel because he doesn’t want to risk further injury impacting his salary. Guess what, the longer he stays off the field the more his contract value goes down. This isn’t the Vikings fault, this is Sidney’s fault for listening to Rosenhaus and scheming for his money rather than earning it.
by CanadianViking on Nov 16, 2010 9:07 PM CST up reply actions
There is no justification for Kennedy, Sapp, Evans, & Farwell making more than Chad
It just is not right. CBA & 30% rule be damned.
Sidney is an All Pro WR who earned it last year and he made Fave just as good as Favre made him look good. I cannot remember how many passes he went up and got on his own.
The Vikings easily could have given both Chad & Sidney one year 5 mil deals just to show good faith.
But they chose not to because they were RFAs. The others were UFAs and they had to do it.
I understand the feelings of fans who want to see the Vikings win. But when the team is throwing money around like it does not matter to Favre & Moss you have to believe these guys are saying what about me.
I’ll give Chad credit in that he is going out and playing no matter what. Maybe that is his upbringing?
Rice did what he felt is best for him and right now if he is not 100% he should not come back.
Unfortunately the ship is sinking. I seriously doubt they can win another road game and they have 3 left. I think the best they can do is 7 – 9 unless they can win on the road. And they have to play 3 probable playoff teams at home and one on the road.
I wish that they could pull it out. But I put this all on the front office. Plenty of teams have given their key players new deals this tear despite the 30% rule.
Look at KC. They just gave Derrick Johnson a new deal and most of the bonus money is going to be paid this year. That way it does not count against any future cap. This was one of my main points in my pre-draft scenarios. Pay Rice & Greenway this year and take care of AP next year.
I don’t know. But when Rice is only going to get 600K is ain’t right.
Nice post
I agree. Players typically get spit on by fans in contract situations, but in most cases I don’t see why. Teams want it both ways where the player always has their back but the team doesn’t always have the player’s.
And something like this isn’t that surprising. The Rice v. Vikings situation has looked likely to come to an awkward head for months now. I agree the Vikings FO/coaches behavior vis a vis their own young players hasn’t been the most principled, particularly considering, as you mention, their willingness to toss cash around at quick fix attempts.
I agree with you completely on Greenway but I disagree on Sidney because of his injury history.
The reason I view them differently is that Sidney has had only one productive year and every other season he’s had injury problems. In his specific case he still has to prove that he can perform post-injury. It may not necessarily be fair but a team has to know that he’s not damaged goods before they give him a big money deal. Sidney could have avoided this situation entirely by having the offseason surgery earlier but he was scared of how that would impact his contract status and now he appears to be scared of returning because of that same issue.
Players have to take care of themselves but they also have to show that they are capable of playing for their team. Sidney’s reluctance to get surgery earlier and his possible reluctance to play out this season is only going to hurt his market value. The NFL isn’t always about what’s fair as it’s a business. Sidney’s decisions have taken him from being a sure-fire investment to a questionable one and although it seems unfair the Vikings are handling him like most injured players are treated. It’s a what have you done for me lately league and Sidney unfortunately has to prove himself again. Sidney’s best chance of making the most money is to suit up this year and perform whether it’s fair or not.
by CanadianViking on Nov 16, 2010 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
I think this makes sense but it still is not right IMO
Sidney played in 13 games in both his first two years. So he did get banged up and miss some games in those two years. And he went off in year 3.
So he decided NOT to get the surgery because the team decided not to pay him any money.
Once you see the team giving Sapp & Kennedy new deals in March before the draft then you have to be thinking what about me.
Sidney is going to get paid by some team. His injury is not a huge injury (i.e. not the knees) and there will be a team that will pay him TOP dollar.
IMO you give him a modest deal for two years and insist he have the surgery. I think he probably would have done it.
Chad’s situation just brings it all to the light. What the Hell are they doing NOT giving Greenway a new deal already when the money would count against this year which is uncapped?
Anyone who does not see a front office that is making some very questionable decisions needs to look again. I mean they give Favre 3 to 7 mil more and Moss 1.5 mil for 4 games yet Chad & Rice cannot even get a decent one year good faith deal.
It is time that fans started to question the front office’s capabilities to make sound decisions.
Maybe it's all a matter of focus
This is all speculation mind you….
Maybe one or all three parts of the triangle looked at the roster and decided….this is our last, best shot for a SB. Let’s just string it all together this year contract wise and then take our chances after this year. Resign who we can, but we will have to take some lumps too. So guys like Greenway and Rice get put to the backburner and hope they can string out one more good year out of them. Lower priority guys (with lower contracts) get pushed through.
Another way of thinking it is that they played too conservative with the unknown financial future. They know that they can get Kennedy and Sapp locked up without hurting some cap space, but Greenway, Rice, and AP probably not….especially if there isn’t football (or income) in 2011 and they are left holding the bag on three pricey contracts. The Moss and Favre thing is acceptable because they are one and done contracts for this year and don’t extend contractual liability past this year.
by PackApologist on Nov 17, 2010 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
Could be true
But Greenway & Rice are important pieces to the team and could be for at least the next 4 to 5 years.
If the team does NOT want to be competitive then I guess they can let these players walk after the season. But if they were thinking along those lines then they may have been better suited to trade them while they could prior to the draft.
They still want fans to attend the games and if you are not going to have a decent team then you will not have sell outs.
Greenway & Rice are both young and too important to the success of the team to treat them like they do not matter while giving others more money.
If there is a lockout or walkout in 2011, I am sure there are provisions written into contracts.
I still maintain that they could have given both Rice & Greenway two year deals of about 10 to 12 mil each that would have been in good faith and less then max money. It would have allowed the team additional time to see them perform before deciding to give them max deals prior to 2012.
But since it is water under the bridge I think they should at least give Greenway a new deal NOW like KC did for Johnson.
It will help the cap next year or the year after.
He has had two knee injuries (not sure about knee surgeries) and only had one productive injury free year.
I think he’s very close to being labeled injury prone.
I agree on Greenway.
He deserves a deal ASAP and I hope he gets one before the season ends. I can understand the FO dragging their feet on Sidney because of the strangeness of the offseason injury and possible complications of dealing with Rosenhaus. There is good news though, Sidney said the report about him not playing this year is bogus so hopefully he gets on the field and plays well enough to get a good deal.
I’m okay with most of the front office deals over the last few years but I do think Greenway deserved to get his contract earlier and I think Favre’s raise is probably why he didn’t get it. From the few comments I’ve heard from Greenway he seems surprisingly unconcerned about the situation so either he’s just an extremely stand up guy or there’s a wink-nod deal in place.
by CanadianViking on Nov 17, 2010 6:56 PM CST up reply actions
Paying Rice 600k this year is not right?
He hasn’t played a snap! Apparently he isn’t going to. Isn’t six hundred thousand dollars to NOT DO ANYTHING AT ALL actually somewhat excessive?
by princelyfrank on Nov 17, 2010 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
I do nothing but sit and make 1300 a month
After serving kids for 25 years and devoting hours into coaching for a suppliment that amounts to about 1.00 an hour in total time spent.
Think I feel sorry for a guy who get more than I;ll make in my lifetime sitting the bench for a year.
And they cry cause their carrers are short. Idea? Buy a simple house in an area you love. By NFL salary standards simple being like a nice lake home for 350.000 cash. Take part of an eventual 2 million (that’s small and sid will get beyond) and put half .of that in a lifetime fixed interest annuity. Live like the rest of us or better with a paid for home and 50 grand a year to spend from that annuity and your et for life!
I should be so lucky!
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 17, 2010 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
Without Favre, how good is Sydney Rice?
That’s the question that haunts Rice and his agent. A pro football player’s career is short, so he needs to maximize his income over a few productive years. Without Brett Favre throwing him precision bullets, Rice might just revert to what he was before Favre, which was a very mediocre, undistinguished receiver. Who was quarterback during Rice’s mediocre years? Tarvaris Jackson, a guy that nobody describes as a precision passer.
If Sydney Rice bolts from the Vikings, it’s as much a vote of no confidence in TJack as it is a move to make money. Given TJ’s lousy performance in pre-season, I don’t blame Rice for being reluctant to get back to that combination. Remember how TJ takes the snap, drops back seven steps, then stares down his primary receiver? Cornerbacks love that, because it gives them a chance to either intercept the pass or plant their helmet in the receiver’s back. Whichever does the most damage.
Rice leaving would also signal a lack of confidence in Brad Childress, who has shown an inability to adapt his offensive scheme to take advantage of Jackson’s athletic ability. TJack is naturally a roll-out, mobile quarterback, not a pocket passer. In the right scheme (Miami?) he might be really fun to watch, but in Childress’ world, he’s an embarrassing “programmatic mismatch.”
Idea: Kolb for T-Jack!
Just thought of the perfect trade, Kevin Kolb for Tarvaris Jackson. TJ would give the Eagles a perfect backup/understudy for Dog Torturer, and Kolb would give the Vikings a legit pocket passer that is far better than TJ or rookie Joe Webb in that role.
Why would the Eagles trade a starter..Kolb for Tjack.. a backup?
by Mike Riley322 on Nov 17, 2010 7:19 AM CST up reply actions
For the same reasons other teams do not keep 2 starters.
Your starters would like to start at some point so if Kolb is not starting for Eagles, he would like to go to some place he would.
Kolb is overrated
Let him have the receivers and coaches that T jack had. For fools that don’t remember that was Bobby wade and Troy Williamson. He would put up worse numbers than T- Jack
Kolb is better than McNabb in Andy Reid's view and Andy Reid knows his QBs.
If TJ is better than Kolb, then by analogy TJ is better than McNabb.
I pity the fool who thinks T-Jack is better than McNabb or that he/she knows more about QBs than Andy Reid.
For receivers argument: Please compare Rice numbers with and without T-Jack.
I agree with the first part of your statement...
But you can’t blame Tjack for Sidney’s lack of production in his rookie year.
Well, not completely. Sidney didn’t play in 5 games his rookie season, and in ‘08 when Frerrotte was in Sidney didn’t do any better. As a matter of fact, his best statistical game in ’08 was the first game when Tjack connected with him twice for 31 yards and a TD.
That, and rookies in general tend to struggle, particularly those who entered the draft as sophomores, as Rice did.
IOW, while I’m no TJack apologist, I’ve seen the argument that TJack had Rice before, and I don’t think it holds water. I think people tend to forget there’s a development curve for the vast majority of players. And WR in particular often has a notorious 2- to 3-year waiting period. Not everyone’s AP and hits the league running.
Agreed.
Some wideouts have the physical ability to just flat out dominate out of the gates.
Others need to work on the finer aspects of the game in order to be successful. Rice falls into this category because he does not have elite speed and strength.
What he does have is a good work ethic, great hands and hops. It took him a little while to come into his own, and the Carter/Fitzgerald camp helped a whole hell of a lot.
Let the dog stuff go man
This is America where we are supposed to give people 2nd chances. Unless you must think this only applies to certain people.
Not if we are being professional.
If you had a stake in the team and money to lose with T-Jack at helm, you would not think about America and 2nd chances. You would focus on winning and whatever is necessary to win.
And by far Vick would give us a better chance to win than TJ do you agree izzie!!!
by cali viking on Nov 17, 2010 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
Cali:
I hate Vick. I even started a thread and fought with half the members of DN over him. But after his performance against Skins, I have to eat my words. He is playing at an amazing level. I still think he will come down once coaches start to realize what his shortcomings are but as of now, Vick is MVP of the league. Eagles are not going to let him go. My guess is that Kolb will lose patience and ask to be released (if his contract is not up already).
My previous comment here was more directed towards taking the sentiment out of the game. Hire Vick because of his level of play not because he “deserves” a second chance.
Hey chuck I agree and im a Vick fan I would love to see him play for the Vikes!!! That might not go over well with others but O well Im a fan of the way he plays thats it not for what he does off the field, and i agree every one deserves a 2nd chance..Trust me im a huge Hokie fan and followed him from VT I was very dissapointed with what he had done but agree everyone deserves a 2nd chance and I think he has taken big strides to better him self on and off the field . If we had any chance to land him next year I say do it!!! Like I said im a fan of his playing not what he did off the field I do not like that at all and hopefully he has moved on from that part of his life!!!And yes im a dog owner I have 3 awsome labs so did not liked what happened!!!
by cali viking on Nov 17, 2010 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
Forgive, but do not forget
No big deal, right? Dog Torturer tortured dogs, but hey, only the ones that lost. He battered injured dogs against a curb, dashing their brains out and watching them bleed to death. It was fun! He also hung them, shot them, and other fun stuff.
But hey, he was just a kid, doing it for fun, right? Oh, wait, it was a business, and he was making big money at it. He even went to prison for it. But now he’s all better, and he has promised not to do that anymore. I’m cool with that.
So sure, let’s forgive Dog Torturer, but let’s not forget what a twisted shit he was. In the spirit of fun, let’s nickname him Dog Torturer. We can even shorten it to DT, or D-Tor, because we’re all into cute abbreviations.
I think D-Tor looks fantastic, possibly MVP material. Incredible agility, speed, and now he’s even added precision passing to his cannon arm. I hope he does well. But there is no reason to forget or discuss his past, which included torturing and slaughtering dogs. I like dogs, how about you?
They love them in certain parts of Asia
Just like the people of India think about how Americans treat cows.
Damn jimbo ease up little fella I love dogs and if you read what I said I hate what he did I only like his play on the field not what he did off the field now if you dont mind im going to lunch were having hot dogs!!!!
Sorry, but I can't be a Vick fan under any circumstances
In fact, he’s the only player in the League whom I’ve EVER wanted to see injured – a career-ending injury involving as much pain as possible and with the possibility of permanently disabling him. IMO, he should’ve been banned for life. Forgiveness is over-rated.
So why aren't the Gophers interviewing Leach
Oh, he grabbed a kid. didn’t carry a gun into a nighclub, get accused of date rape. have a dog fighting business in his backyard or get a 2nd chance to QB ateam after being convicted of burglery. Yet in all opinions on what the Gophers need for a coach is that he is proven in taking bad teams and recruiting good players into winners.
Just saying…
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 17, 2010 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
If Moss was still here
If Moss was still here I’d bet he play because he knows how much fun that would be and productive. Moss, Percy and Rice + AP + BF. Just ignore the plays Chilli sends in and go. It would be OK with Chilli if you won big because it would make him look good. But NOOO!
I think your right he knows BF is not back next year (HE IS DONE IN FACT HE WISHES HE WAS DONE NOW but BF is not a quitter, he is not much of a starter either, but he is not a quitter.)
THIS is the primary question that needs to be answered
Favre has a long history of making players (and coaches) better.
Examples of players that left the Packers to go to other teams and accomplish exactly nothing include: Antonio Freeman, Robert Brooks, Javon Walker, and David Martin. Feel free to chime in with others.
Examples of coaches that were once around Favre that went on to bigger and better things: Holmgren to Seattle and now Cleveland. Gruden to Oakland and then Tampa. Andy Reid to Philly. Marty Morhinweg to Detroit then back to Philly. McCarthy came long way around back to the head job in GB. I’m sure there are many others as well.
The guy has had an incredible career. What had Rice accomplished before Favre? not much. Was it a breakout year for him? Or, was it merely another example in the long line of players that Favre made better than they were? Certainly some team will throw a boatload of cash his way and find out.
by gern blanston on Nov 17, 2010 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah poor Sidney & Chad
Are you kidding me. These guys have already made more money in their careers than you will make in your life. Aren’t you sick of paying $20-$30 dollars just to park your car then another $100 for a ticket. Then another $30 bucks for few beers & a brat. PLEASE!!!! Then you get guys like Moss & Haynesworth dogging it while making millions. F-Sidney & his agent. God you make it sound like poor Sidney & Chad are going to starve to death. Yeah we had better pay them, don’t want to have the Escalade repo’d I glad we are going into a CBA. I love the NFL as much as the next guy but it’s getting out of hand.
No arguing the pay scale is out of whack but that is not the point
If lesser players are getting more then it is not fair no matter how much they were getting.
But some fans just cannot see that because of their overall feelings on the whole pay system.
It is at this point that there is no use debating because some refuse to get past their bias.
Good post (got rec'd)
Most of which is very accurrate. The club had all the leverage and used it——-rather unwisely. That CBA 30% rule screwed up a lot a lot of locker rooms around the NFL. Increasiningly, players are playing for the name on the back of the shirt (theirs) and not the name on the front or decal on the side of the helment. Again not all players take this position.
The fact of the matter is that the great money grab has taken place this season in the NFL. Owners have pocketed millions to the detriment of the most of players (Favre is an exception). Not only is the previous floor of 120 million not being met by your average NFL club but there is no floor currently. Some teams are at around 80 million in payroll for 2010 season. This, without a doubt affects the players in the various locker rooms around the NFL when things go south on the field and Minnesata is no exception.
Are u Kidding me!!!
This is the time when Rice value can skyrocket. Yes, we are suffering without him, but what if he comes back and just gets this team turned around. His stock would skyrocket out of control. Sitting back like a lil girl, rosenhaus style, wouldn’t make anything better. He has the chance to change the course of the vikings and he sits back. Let him go and start Web already. U seen what Vick did last nite. This guy has all the talents that vick has. Give him the reps and we will be rewarded in the long run. And YES, without RICE, cause at our pace.. we will get a really talented receiver this year. TOODLES RICE!!!!
by Clearly Mossome on Nov 16, 2010 8:58 PM CST reply actions
I'm taking this with a grain of salt for now
If I decided to sit on my butt and refuse to do my job for a month, how many employers would line up to have me come work for them?
I love sports, but I’m really beginning to hate athletes.
by HectorVillanueva on Nov 16, 2010 9:06 PM CST reply actions
If I decided to sit on my butt and refuse to do my job for a month, how many employers would line up to have me come work for them?
It’s not their fault that you are replaceable and they aren’t.
Sidney Rice for example. You are maybe talking about 60-90 people in the world (being generous), who could do just a good a job as him, and there are 32 employers. Do the math.
Yeah but they are not on the Vikings now and Sidney is.
How much do you think it would take to sign one of these other players?
And why don’t you name a few that are free agents to be next year or draftees that you believe are just as good as Sidney and can be signed for the Vikings?
I wont even bother asking how much you think these other players would want.
Hmmm...
Sidney seems to be embracing the Childress mindset. By that I mean, it was Favre, beginning with the 49er game, who propelled the team forward. The illusion was created that it was Chill’s headcoaching abilities that warranted his long term extension. Likewise, if Sidney/Drew think that they will be able to convince other teams that his 2009 numbers were exclusively due to his sudden elevation in his skill set, they are kidding themselves. There are not that many QBs, who can duplicate the type of season Favre had last year. His passing accuracy, completion percentage, etc. was worthy of winning the MVP.
I guess Rosenhaus thinks everyone will overlook this.
Who givess a shittt, vincent jackson will be a free agent
atleast we got harvin whos a tough sob, Vincent jackson is atleast consistent and would be worth the money, plus no injury issues.
Harvin, AD, Greenway we gotta lock up. We need to get a pass rushing olb though. and athletic and a fuid athlete to replace e.j.
It may be speculation
But if it walks like a duck. . .and it talks like a duck. . .
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by Christopher Gates on Nov 16, 2010 10:51 PM CST up reply actions
It’s a packer fan?
Darko is my bodyguard.
by Premier Cherdenko on Nov 17, 2010 12:13 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I find it is best practice
to not obsess about hypotheticals until they become actuals.
by Jepp The Viking on Nov 16, 2010 10:28 PM CST reply actions
For the vikes sake I hope your right Jeep!!!
by cali viking on Nov 16, 2010 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
With a great passer, Rice is a star
Sydney Rice can be a star WR on a team with a great passer, like New England. He’s not good enough to make a so-so passer look good, but if Rice gets the ball in stride, look out.
That makes him less valuable to the post-Favre Vikings than a guy that makes fantastic adjustments to scattered balls, like the ones thrown by T-Jack. For TJ to be successful, he needs a run and gun offense with little sandlot receivers leaping and diving everywhere. On this team, only Harvin fits that mold. Everybody else will be, “Dang, I can’t catch that.”
Couldn’t disagree more with you on Rice. I think he’s legit. (And Favre was not hitting him in stride last year; Favre figured out Rice has maybe the largest catch radius in the game last year, with great hands to boot, and realized he had himself a friend.)
I think he’s a franchise wideout….when healthy. Keeping healthy might be the big bugaboo with him.
Exactly
And watch how many teams that will line up to sign him if the Vikings do not make him the offer that he wants.
That will be the answer to this whole discussion about his abilities.
In the end, it is all about the ability to get paid.
Meh...
There is a whole list of FA who get paid but don’t have the skills. Exhibit A: Javon Walker. Walker and his ilk do enough to get attention, but not sustainable enough production to warrant truly receiving that money. That said, there is always a coach, GM, owner, who think that this time it’s different and they line up to chase good money after bad.
by PackApologist on Nov 17, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
I’d imagine if the two sides are fated to seperate, the Vikings would do a tag-and-trade before Rice ever hits UFA.
I get the sense Rice’s relationship with the team has always been a little “chilly.” (Sorry, couldn’t help myself). Remember he had a hamstring issue that limited him in 2008 and team mouthpieces like PA kept taking pot shots at Rice’s rehab and attitude. Thankfully TJ Houshmanzadah saved them from themselves and Rice was able to show them something before he was buried on the depth chart by another veteran.
If Deion Branch can become someone cares about, Rice will have his payday.
Very disheartening if this whole thing is true. Maybe I should just read about Harvin and AD and feel better about life.
Didn't the players opt put of an extension to the players agreement?
And is this why most teams are keeping the raises in check…… it is all about the bargaining table…. such is life…… The Vikings,, just like each and every other NFL team….
Is doing the same thing…… when things get hashed out, then the owners can know how much they can spend, etc.
The triangle will keep most of our current players…..
SKOL
No, the OWNERS opted out
I’m so sick of people not knowing the difference between a strike and a LOCKOUT.
2011 is 100% owner driven. And 99% of it is stuff the Players can’t even change realistically. Revenue sharing is something the Owners are going to have to hash out, and the small market teams won’t give it up until they’d actually lose money altogether. Which means they’d be perfectly willing to sit out ALL of 2011 to keep the TV money, with or without football.
I think the odds of football in 2011 to be slim, because the Owners, though agreed on what they want to do, don’t agree at all on how they want to do it.
by Shawn Gillogly on Nov 17, 2010 12:29 AM CST up reply actions
Here's an Idea
If what Chris is reporting could possibly be true, then why not just let Rice go. For as much as I loved him last year, he has only one very good season, not even a great season, and Randy Moss is also set to be a free agent after the season. I know I may draw some ire for mentioning his name but so be it. Moss has underperformed tremedously this season no matter where he’s been. I say let Rice leave if he so chooses, and sign Moss to a one year deal for a minimum amount of money and make the contract heavily incentive laiden, a la T.O this year. If anyone here hasn’t been paying attention, TO is well on his way to the best season of his career in Cincy this year. Maybe a contract like that would motivate Moss to produce, seeing as his money directly correlates to his production. We should also move to restructure BB’s contract or release him if he won’t cooperate with such a thing. Another thing to keep in mind is TO, Vincent Jackson, Braylon Edwards, Santonio Holmes, Malcolom Floyd, and Mike Sims-Walker are all scheduled to become UFA at the end of the season, the wide receiver market will be flooded with talent this year, should we decide we need to pick up an extra body for our corp. Another interesting tid-bit I’ve heard around the interweb, is if the Bengals fire their coach Carson Palmer may be given the boot as the new regime would want their own guy.
I agree this far...
the WR market is going to be glutted in 2011, or whenever the next season is.
by Shawn Gillogly on Nov 17, 2010 1:54 AM CST up reply actions
To be fair...
Hey, Mr. Rosenhaus, you know what else “doesn’t go over well?” Having a client that knew he was injured in late January that neglected to have surgery to fix his problem until the first week of training camp. . .IN EARLY SEPTEMBER.
We should clarify that surgery for Rice was presented as an option rather than a suggestion by 2 out of the three specialists he saw. All the specialists, along with team doctors said that surgery was not necessary.
Then, once it was determined that the injury had gotten worse rather than better, they decided on surgery.
Hard to believe
I find it hard to believe that there was not some indication that the injury was not healing sometime between January and August. I didn’t believe Rice’s explanation in August and I don’t believe it now.
I understand that the average career in the NFL is very short but I am tired of players who have one good season and then ask to be consider one of the elite players at their position. Chris Carter should have helped Rice to realistically view his talents and abilities.
You know what is hard to believe...
Is that a player would risk his future earnings potential on something that he was not sure of.
Sidney needed this year to prove that he could stay healthy in order to earn that big money contract. Nobody is going to give him the big bucks if he is constantly injured, which is what he was for the first two years of his career.
So for you to think that this is a ploy, that there was some nefarious scheme hatched by Rice and Rosenhaus to not have surgery for what could potentially be a career-ending injury because they just didn’t want to, is silly. Both Sid and his agent knew they have to do what is best for Sidney, and waiting until august to get the surgery done doesn’t help either of them.
They both know if Sidney couldn’t play this year it would SEVERELY damage his market value.
Yep
He definitely needs to prove he can stay healthy to maximize his earnings. Probably why he wants to wait as long as possible to get back on the field and make sure he is 100% first.
by PurpleJesus on Nov 17, 2010 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
I can understand him not wanting to play if we are out of the playoff scenario.
Give him a chance to get to 100%.
But I don’t see it as a contract move. If he doesn’t play, it hurts him more than us.
This is true
He needs to play this year. Just not so sure he wants to do it at 80% against the Packers. No matter what anyone says, Rosnhaus is in his ear…
by PurpleJesus on Nov 17, 2010 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
Classic Rosenhaus
I didn’t know he was a client of Drew’s…I would have predicted this a LOT sooner. He and Bus cook are two of the slimiest agents out there, you don’t seem to hear as much about Rosenhaus lately but this is a classic move for him!
Great Post
There will be some teams willing to bet on Rice’s future productivity but his history of injuries and his bonehead decision not to have surgery soon after the loss in the NFC championship game show his lack of loyalty to his team mates and his selfishness. If he made the decisions based upon the advice of Rosenhaus, I question his decision making ability in total. Make him an offer and if he is not interested, move on.
what i think is going on is....
rosenhouse is just trying to milk this and trying to convince Sid to try and make more money instead of playing for the team he said he was. His agent just needs to Fuck Off.
Without Rice Playing .....
Our chances of saving this season are slim to none but then again….I get sick and tired of hearing all this crap about contracts and playing only for the money. Maybe I’m a little idealistic, but I believe there are still some players out there that play for the love of the game and the thrill of victory….yes a healthy contract is nice, but C’mon man. It seems like there are only a handful of players that actually show up every game and play like they give a crap, despite all the contract and funding issues. If I had a team of Bretts, Adrians, Percys, Chads, Antoines, EJs, you know the ones who play through injury and adversity and never give up….that’s who I want on the field, win or lose. Syd – if you don’t play this weekend …. good riddance and best of luck….NOT!
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Do you love your job? Would you do it for free?
Remember, this is their career and for them this is work. It’s awesome work that I’m most love to do on some level, but really it’s work. It’s like that for Brett, Adrian, Percy, Chad, Antoine, etc. They are capable and will do smaller protests just like Rice did here.
The other thing is that in the NFL most of these contracts are not guaranteed. The players really don’t have much to stand on once they are injured and done. It’s a harsh business, and sometimes that calls for harsh tactics on the part of the team and the player to get what they need and what they want.
I don’t necessarily agree with Rice, and it sucks that he is taking your team hostage, but at least I can understand his motive.
by PackApologist on Nov 17, 2010 9:29 AM CST up reply actions
You know it's easier at arms length
I still would get it though. The best example I can think of was the situation with Nick Collins last year. Fortunately that worked out well, with the Packers paying him. The other close situation would be the one with Williams.
I can’t say that I’m completely unbias, but at the same time I’ve always had a soft spot for players in this sort of debate. I know it’s tough to side with guys who make millions for playing a game, but it is a business where they have little safeguards as well as being chewed up and spit out.
by PackApologist on Nov 17, 2010 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
I suspected
It was at least a little bit of (sub?)conscious “I hope the Vikes let their pro bowl receiver go” :)
by Jepp The Viking on Nov 17, 2010 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
Deja Vu
The exact same thing happened with the Packers and Javon Walker. Walker had a career year and then tore his ACL the following year. He felt that he deserved a huge payday regardless and the Packers brass let him go. It’s not surprising that Walker and Rice share the same agent (or shared the same agent).
Same thing happened with Ryan Grant. He had a phenomenal 2/3 of a year in 2007 and expected a huge payday after that. What players need to realize is that from a front office POV, you need to prove your worth to the organization for several years, not just one. Grant came back and proved to be a reliable back and eventually got the money that he deserved. But, like Rice, he expected too much after only one year. I understand you want to get paid as soon as possible to avoid an injury ruining your career and leaving you with a lower amount of money. But from an organizational standpoint, you can’t just throw money at every flash in the pan you see. It’s not like GB or MN are the Yankees.
by Matt Capelle on Nov 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
Walker is a great example
I don’t know how many people were tickled to see Walker leave. He never really was able to to put it together after that. Receivers are a tricky bunch to break down because there are so many factors into whether they are a true threat to a defense or not. Really there are only a handful that warrant a discussion of being a threat outside of their QB.
by PackApologist on Nov 17, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
Nah
That’s really not it because I just don’t see Rice as a huge threat alone. I would need to see a year where is he putting together Pro Bowl numbers without an elite QB throwing him the ball.
So for example right now I would fear Dez Bryant more than Sydney Rice.
by PackApologist on Nov 17, 2010 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know..
Last year a lot of those throws Favre is having INTs on were Rice catches due to his enormous (read: freakish) radius of catch. I simply can’t tell you how many times SR out-jumped 2 players for a long completion. This year, those were INTs early on which has forced our offense into dink and dunk.
by Jepp The Viking on Nov 17, 2010 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
Still
Takes a good QB to put the ball in a place where a WR can go get it. T-Jack doesn’t make those throws. T-Jack likes hitting his WR’s in the feet.
I don’t deny that Rice is a good WR. But only in extremely rare circumstances would a WR make a QB better. 9.9 times out of 10 it is the QB who brings out the best in the WR. If this weren’t true, Rice would have already blossomed before Favre was even in the picture.
by Matt Capelle on Nov 17, 2010 6:53 PM CST up reply actions
With Respect...
I’m Canadian, and I’ll be ticked off too.
The contrast between some players is amazing
One one end of the spectrum you have guys like Harvin, Favre, EJ Henderson, and Chad Greenway, busting their ass, putting it on the line to get healthy and play with their teammates, or in Greenway’s case, not worrying about a contract and playing, and letting his work on the field do his talking.
And then you get guys like Rice, who let their agents chirp in their ears and tell them how great they are, when what they’ve accomplished is very little. Yes, he had a great 2009 season, and it was a hoot to watch and see him develop with Favre, and he was electrifying, but you have to produce more than one year, and you have to be on the field producing, to get big money. Greenway understands that, Percy and EJ understand that, yet guys like Rice ruin their reputations and their standing with a lot of fans.
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I think you are jumping to conclusions Ted.
Do you really think that Drew and Sidney believe that sitting out half the year with ANOTHER injury is the best way to increase his value on the Free agent market?
In some weird way, yes
Kind of weird theory, but hear me out. Rice sits out all of this year, and he enters free agency based on his 2009 All-Pro season, claiming he’s 100% healthy and ready to tear it up.
Or, he could play on a team that has a season quickly swirling down the drain, playing for a QB who is statistically one of the three worst in the NFL this year. He’ll probably put up pedestrian numbers, and he runs the risk of getting hurt again, further damaging his free agency stock.
I can’t stand Drew Rosenhaus because I think what he represents is a lot of the worst that there is in sports today. But I respect him as a guy trying to get the most for his client, and at the end of the day, that’s what his job is and where his loyalty lies, not to the VIkings or the fans.
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Right. Drew is slime.
But don’t you think that most teams would look at his track record, see that he has missed 28 out of the potential 64 regular season games he has had the opportunity to play in.
If I am only going to get about half a season’s production out of a player, I am not going to pay him what he would be worth if he had only missed 12 games out of 64.
I think this season hurts Sidney far more than it helps, and Drew is a smart man. He would not have gotten as far as he has if he were dumb.
Yeah, but Rosenhaus is playing the
‘all it takes is one’ theory. All it takes is one team to take a chance, just like what happened with T.O.
And there will be one team, don’t know who it is, that’ll be willing to take a chance that he’s healthy and they’ll get the 2009 Sid.
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I don't see it as a matter of being able to find another team, or even a team that is willing to pay him well...
I just think it severely deflates his value, and jeopardizes him going to a team that has no chance at a SB.
The teams that have a good chance are going to be less likely to jump on Rice at the asking price because of the risk of him not playing a full year.
So by doing this, he potentially earns less money and could end up on the Bills.
Oh, it's definitely a gamble
and he’s gambling that potential suitors will look at his 2009 numbers and assume he’s healthy, and if he doesn’t play, he won’t get hurt, which would really devalue him.
And Owens ended up on the Bills after he had pretty much burned all his NFL bridges. Rice hasn’t burned any—yet.
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I just think it is too early to rush to this kind of conclusion about the guy.
Sidney seems like a stand-up dude. Until he proves otherwise I am going to take him for his word.
This just in
read here
"Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthend, ambition inspired, and success achieved."
-Helen Keller
And you could include guys like Cook, and Griff to that list.
"Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthend, ambition inspired, and success achieved."
-Helen Keller
Get on the field Mr. Rice............................................
This is your time to grab the money!
Favre + Rice = total domination of the Pack!
Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!
Brett Favre will be back in 2010, Guaranteed!
Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLV, Guaranteed!
Brett Favre in 2011 is inevitable!
Sydney Rice=
just another DIVA wide reciever. What is it with these guys that play this position?
"the beat writers believe"
That quote pretty much sums up the story, it’s probably BS. These beat “writers” have way too much time to fill. It’s kinda like CNN, 24 hours to fill, so they create news. I’ll start worrying when I hear something of more substance. I have a tough time believing something like this of Rice. He doesn’t seem like that type of person; but we’ll see sometime this week.
Actually the beat writers are the ones to listen to
We’re not talking Floirio or Scheffter who hang around with the guys’ agents and get their scopes that way. We’re talking about the guys who hang around Winter Park all day, talk to the players, coaches, and anyone they can find.
Granted, we need to take this with a grain of salt to be sure. But, I will trust a reporter that is close to players, King, Glazer, a local beat writer with a good reputation, than some of the current talking heads out there.
by PackApologist on Nov 17, 2010 10:00 AM CST up reply actions
Why is it then
That these ‘beat writers’ never break a meaningful story when they are constantly ‘tuned in’ to this team. It’s always Glazer or Schefter that seems to out-scoop them. Judd and Chip have to be some of the worst beat writers I’ve ever seen. Everything they write is speculation, instead of, you know, ACTUALLY ASKING RICE WHAT THE DEAL WAS!!!!!!
There are terrible human beings, and then there are beat writers.
by Jepp The Viking on Nov 17, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
hmmm....don't know
I mostly go by the Packer guys at the Press Gazette and Journal Sentinel. They typically have a good vibe for the team. One guy out here that I know is good is Tom Pelisarro at ESPN 1500.
The reason why Schefter and Glazer get all the scopes is because of the contacts they have. Schefter is in with the agents who want to get info out as soon as possible. Glazer is in with the players. He works out with them and has a very good ear on the inside. Typically I’ll let them get the scopes, but listen to the beat writers to get the vibe from the locker room.
by PackApologist on Nov 17, 2010 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
lets be real........
even in the weak nfc, thanks to bad play from either the offense or defense, or sometimes both in the same game, this season is in the toilet. i’m not for rice just calling it quits……however i do understand somewhat. if his agent wasnt rosenhaus (sp?) it probably wouldnt go over so bad.
hopefully he does start playing.
Good things come to those who keep fighting
Geeze
The atmosphere on here is getting so damn depressing. So what, we are 3-6? I know we are done but for JESUS CHRIST’S SAKE!!! Man up nancy boys and cheer the Vikes to victory over the Pack!!!
by Jepp The Viking on Nov 17, 2010 11:30 AM CST reply actions
If we can't go to the playoffs
I hope this team takes the Pukers with them.
by Jepp The Viking on Nov 17, 2010 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
O yea that would be the next best thing!!! nice Jeep
by cali viking on Nov 17, 2010 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
Never give up, never surrender!
As a tribute to whoever posted something similar in the game thread (I think it was on this site, anyway)
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Per Adam Schefter (for what it's worth)
Rosenhaus: “I’m hopeful he will be healthy enough to play this week. We’ve never given any consideration to him not playing this season.”
So no more tears.
by Jepp The Viking on Nov 17, 2010 12:03 PM CST reply actions
Last time I checked
bosses generally gave raises to those who gutted out a tough situation and produced instead of those who cried on the sideline.
by Jepp The Viking on Nov 17, 2010 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
Time to man up Sydney
Get your %$#&@#$ out on that field and help us kick the %$#&@#$ out of the Packers. We need you – tell Rosenblouse to f off until AFTER the season which this pretty much is if we lose this game!! BE A VIKING!
sidney can go screw himself
Hes already ticked me off. He is a me player, not a team player.
With that said.
Why would many teams wish to sign him?
Look at Moss.. He “was” proven talent, and actually had a desire to win..
I have no prob with Sid.
And I don’t think many others REALLY do. The problem is we are placing our anger on a failbomb of a season solely on a few players, like Sid.
by Jepp The Viking on Nov 17, 2010 2:47 PM CST reply actions
To me it sounds like he's not gonna go
Not trying to judge him but it sounds like excuses, posturing – I know he did come of a very serious injury but – I guess I just don’t know.
Just saw that -save some folks time. Rosenhaus coaching Rice and making him look stupid
"Someone out here wrote a column today saying that I wasn’t going to come back and talked about how it related to my contract situation. But you can ask any of the news people around here, not once have I spoken about a contract or wanted money. My objective is to get out on the field and play when I’m healthy and it has nothing to do with my contract.
“If you know anything about the CBA, if the contract doesn’t get done I still have to be here two more years anyway, so what’s going on now is definitely not about my contract. That’s a bunch of bull. I wouldn’t dare do the fans or my teammates like that.”
That’s somewhat confusing given that Rice signed a four-year contract in 2007 and right now there is no collective bargaining agreement in place for 2011 and beyond. Rice seems to be operating under the impression that the CBA will be the same as it was this past March, when players needed six years of service to become unrestricted free agents, but that isn’t going to happen.
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 17, 2010 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
I think Rice has a point
Look no further than Matthew Stafford. There’s a guy that was obviously rushed back before he was healthy. Now his career is in jeopardy. He didn’t have a history of injuries in college. Yet he’s not made it through either of his 2 NFL seasons. This is what happens when players listen to their coaches and not their doctors – the unbiased ones, anyway.
by gern blanston on Nov 17, 2010 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
except that he's listening to his agent and not his doctors
"Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthend, ambition inspired, and success achieved."
-Helen Keller
I love me some Sid.
Bottom line is not one of us is qualified to judge his injury or recovery path. I promise you, each and every one of us would do what is best when it comes to our financial security for the rest of your life. Obviously his injury was way more serious than any of us (including him) knew about. We love ya Sid, get out and kick some ass when your healthy.
by Jepp The Viking on Nov 17, 2010 3:03 PM CST reply actions
Rice is saying he wants to play
He is not sure about this Sunday but he will not sit out the season. At least that is what he is saying (for now).
Let's not let the rumors spin wild here...
Until Sid has proven himself to not be someone we can trust or have faith in, we should not lose trust or faith in him.
It's a job people
And one with a short shelf-life, and ZERO protection if it gets cut short for whatever reason. Anyone know how Onterrio Smith is doing these days? It’s not like most of the players will leave the game and earn a fortune elsewhere. The sports chews them up, and spits them out, and if they’re lucky, they get to earn a fortune while they’re here.
Just be grateful for the ones who go above and beyond, and accept that for most people, they have to take care of themselves as the degree of benevolence from league owners can be seen by the push for the 18 game season!
Et Tu, Bruti?
How quickly you guys forget how hard Sid worked in the offseason between ’08 and ’09 with Cris Carter and Larry Fitzgerald.
The dude has heart and a good work ethic, and instead of just listening to the newsies (I actually like Chip and Judd), listen to Sid’s own words from his blog.
From 8/25/2010:
I injured my hip during the Saints game and it was pretty bad afterwards. I got an MRI right after the game and the doctors said at that point that I had time and it could heal on its own. So I just tried to take it easy from there. No one wants to have surgery if it can be avoided, especially if the injury has a chance to heal on its own.
He didn’t wait to have surgery just for the hell of it, folks. Getting cut open, getting parts of your insides moved around, stapled, sewn up, and getting sewn/stapled back together, in your HIP, for a receiver who has to make quick, hard cuts at full speed…. c’mon, man.
The Vikes are looking for a few more good men who can make excuses
are you applying for the job?
The injury occured in January
It shouldn’t have taken til September to realize that it wasn’t healing on its own.
"Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthend, ambition inspired, and success achieved."
-Helen Keller
So should we call him Sydney Haynesworth, or Albert Rice
He is going to be just another slacker on a team full of them, I really hate to say this people, but is this team underchieving or did they overachieve last year. Let’s look at a few players for starters………
Berrian, Rice…..can’t depend on either one of them to suck it up and play…….maybe table tennis is in their future, oh wait, they might break a friggin nail. Both of them could really learn something from Favre and Harvin, but then again, having guts isn’t something you can learn.
Jared Allen……. Dude either grow out the mullet again, or file for divorce from the new wife because something definately changed since you found one and lost the other.
Chris Cook…….is he aspiring to be the Berrian of the defense or what?
Lito Sheppard…… lights on, nobody home.
Now for the management and staff
Zygi Wilf………..California dreamin, but snowbound in Minnesota, honestly what did we expect from a guy named after a cartoon
Childress………. proves that even a person with brain damage can have a milion dollar a year job
Team Trainers/Doctors…………are you guys really signing off on these injuries for people like Rice, please stop they don’t need anymore excuses!!!!!
I don't blame him at all
Football careers are short so they have to do what they have to do to get all the money they can. Most of them won’t have careers in anything athletic once they get out so they have to make the most of it. You start out playing football for the love of the game and if you play a long time its because of it. I hate Rousenhaus but he does whats best for the players so he does his job and he does it well. I wish the best to Rice cause I’m sure he isn’t coming back here next year. No hard feelings here, I don’t think anything could save this offense anymore.
There really has to be more to life than making money.
Does life get dull after college?
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