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Five Questions With The Acme Packing Company

Ahh, but the strawberries that's... that's where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with... geometric logic... that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox DID exist, and I'd have produced that key if they hadn't of pulled the Caine out of action. I, I, I know now they were only trying to protect some fellow officers... 
(sound of stress balls clicking)

Hey, does anyone even know it's Packer week?  Me either.  With all the turmoil that's gone on this year, and with the 3-6 record, it's tough to get motivated to get my level of hate up to the required level.  Let me try...nope, ain't happening.  

BUT IT'S TIME TO BRING THE HAAAAAAAAATE!!!!  AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nope, that didn't do it either.  Sigh...I hate the 2010 season.  I almost want to blind myself with a stick so I don't have to watch the last half of the season, but then I could never watch German niche porn again.  So I endure, for you, the fine people of DN. 

Well, we still have 7 games to talk about, and this is our most bitter rival, and it is, more than likely, Brett Favre's last appearance against his old team.  So with that in mind, here's five questions with the Acme Packing Company.  One of the writers over there, texwestern, was gracious enough to exchange a Q and A and not to be too smug about it.  My answers to his questions will be posted over there. 

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DN:  The Packers have dealt with one injury after another, yet they are are 6-3 and in the thick of the NFC North race.  How have they done it, and who has stepped up and filled in for an injured starter that's made you take notice?


The key has been the defense, and on defense, the biggest factor in my mind is the scheme. Dom Capers has designed his defense around Clay Matthews and Charles Woodson, who mercifully have missed only one game between them (Matthews was out for the loss against the Dolphins). If the players around them play solidly within their roles and let those two do their job and make impact plays, the D will be effective. When players like new starters ILB Desmond Bishop and SS Charlie Peprah make big plays as well, it's icing on the cake. Those two have impressed immensely since taking over for injured starters, and they're a big reason for the defense's recent success.
 
DN:  How do you see the second half of the season playing out for Green Bay?  The schedule seems tougher, and injuries are still hurting your team (Mark Tauscher, for example).  Can they hang in until the end, or will a tougher schedule and lack of roster depth catch up to them in the second half?


The schedule certainly gets more difficult, with the games at Atlanta and New England and at home against the Giants being the toughest tests. The defense will need to continue forcing turnovers at big points in the game for this team to win those games against well-coached teams with talented defenses. The offense can function even without the key players it has lost, but it needs some help in the field-position game from the D and the special teams. I still feel that this is the best team in the division, and I expect the Packers to make the playoffs despite the tough schedule the rest of the way. Their success to this point speaks to the depth the team had at the start of the year...I just don't want to see that depth tested any further.


DN:  Ted Thompson has been really brutalized by Green Bay fans because of his dogmatic philosophy to build the roster through the draft and not sign big free agents or make a trade for a position of need.  With Green Bay's success in the post-Favre era, has he been vindicated, or can his philosophy only get the Packers so far?


There's only one way for Thompson to convince all Packers fans of his philosophy, and that's obviously for the Packers to win a Super Bowl under his watch. In general, I tend to support Thompson's overall philosophy, though I seem one of few Packers fans who feel that way. What really frustrates me is his unwillingness to tweak his tendencies when the situation dictates it--especially his lack of effort in trading for a running back once Ryan Grant went down. Overall though, he's made a number of great draft picks--Rodgers, Matthews, Jennings, and Raji, who's really been impressive this year--but draft picks take time to develop. The problem is that this team seems ready to make the big jump to being a Super Bowl-caliber team, and Ted needs to acknowledge that and look to improve the team in the short-term as well as the long-term.


DN:  Clay Matthews has been the headliner on defense this year, wreaking havoc over most every team he has faced.  What can the Vikings do to neutralize his impact on the game?


Sneak into his hotel room and give him some sleeping pills? Because he's been a beast against all kinds of offenses so far. Frankly, the Vikings seemed to do a reasonable job of containing him last game--he put pressure on Favre, but couldn't quite get to the QB quickly enough and ended up with one tackle and no sacks. The problem is that now when you double-team him, the defense is finally starting to get pressure from other players. One thought is to get him off his rhythm by using the running backs or tight ends to chip him at the line of scrimmage. That's easier said than done though, and it's no guarantee that he'll be ineffective.


DN:  Aaron Rodgers has put up some impressive numbers as a starting QB.  However, there's one number that baffles me, and that's zero (maybe one).  And that refers to the number of fourth quarter come from behind wins he has engineered with the game on the line.  Is that a big deal, (and possibly over-magnified considering his predecessor's knack for it), or is this something that you think is a legitimate problem?  


I only found one, as he connected on a 50-yard catch and run to Jennings with a minute or so left in the first Bears game last year. (I don't count the second Bears game in 09, when he threw a TD to take a 21-14 lead with 12+ minutes to go).  In 2008, his first year as a starter, I thought that Rodgers played very well late in games; the Packers' defense just couldn't hold it down for him. The Pittsburgh game last year was another instance where his defense couldn't hold up after he led a marvelous fourth quarter. The Pack trailed 24-14 entering the fourth and took a 36-30 lead with two minutes to go before Ben Roethlisberger's ridiculous touchdown to Mike Wallace stole the game. So in general, it hasn't been Rodgers that has failed late in close games so far in his career, it's been his defense. I believe that he has been good, and that I have no doubt that he'll rack up his share of comeback wins in the years to come.

Thanks to tex and ACP.  We hate them, but maybe we can tap into it next year.  I've just been beat down this year, and we're barely halfway through.   

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Couple thoughts on the questions:
Rodgers – That stat is really misleading. Rodgers has lead the team to take the lead on numerous occassions with the game on the line but almost everytime the D has a HUGE letdown and the other team will push right down the field to steal it from the team in like 1 min. While he’s clearly not one of the best in the league, that stat is deceptive.

Thompson – I’ve always been a big supporter of him and his style. I think he’s a jackass but honestly he’s a shrewd evaluator of talent and usually can tell when a guy is done and isn’t afraid to move on. He trusts his guys and they seem to step up when given chances. He has a tough task of managing a strict budget for a team that doesn’t have owners pockets to dig into.

Schedule – It does get tougher…no denying that. I don’t see any of those teams as unbeatable though. I don’t see the Packers winning them all but I don’t think we’ll lose them all either.

One other thought, the biggest difference the Vikings will notice this week is with the D line. In the first game, the Packers had THREE Dlinemen active for the game. Only one was a starter (Raji) which is why there was a lot of odd formation (1 and 2 man D lines with extra corners). The line is much healthier now with Jenkins back and Pickett likely to be back. I don’t see AP putting up 130 this week like he did last time.

by TrevorR on Nov 18, 2010 9:13 AM CST reply actions  

what after the

50 yard performance last week you don’t think he will put up 130 this week? I think he will run hard at home and get a least a 100 but that really depends upon the score, if we get behind early the chance of that goes down a lot.

it is better to be thought of as dumb then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Ben Franklin

by montana vikes fan on Nov 18, 2010 9:20 AM CST reply actions  

Can’t speak for Trevor but I’m sure it has something to do with Jenkins and Pickett being back for this game. Like he said, last time we played you both were out. Jenkins got injured in warmups and Pickett re-aggravated an injury 7 snaps in. So we ended up only having 3 DL for the game, which obviously isn’t ideal, especially since one was a rookie who was a 7th rounder and the other was a guy who is like 5th or 6th on the depth chart.

Peterson will still get his, I just hope/think it’ll be more around 80 instead of 130!

by packallday555 on Nov 18, 2010 9:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Don't forget the addition of Green

Now instead of relying on offensive linemen to come out in short yardage situation we actually have a D-line rotation. That always helps a lot.

by PackApologist on Nov 18, 2010 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

True, true. He’s been a pretty solid run stopper.

by packallday555 on Nov 18, 2010 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Stupid Jets. :)

TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is way more than half-full!

by NorthStarr on Nov 19, 2010 11:32 PM CST up reply actions  

This team couldn't even get motivated

to put any effort towards an extremely beatable and overrated bears team who are also division rivals. It could easily be a repeat of the GB/Cowboys game.

by sx2700 on Nov 18, 2010 9:53 AM CST reply actions  

No way.

I don’t think the Vikings quit in the Bears game, but even if they did, there is no way they aren’t motivated for this one. They know it’s possibly Favre’s last shot. If they’re going to get up for any game the rest of the year, this is it.

BCB free since 8/24/10 and happier for it.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 18, 2010 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope you're right

I guess for a lot of us Vikings fans, this is the last hurrah for the season. Being the spoiler isn’t really all that fun.

by sx2700 on Nov 18, 2010 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I get the impression most of the Vikings players love Favre....

… they’ll want to win it for him pretty badly, I expect.

BCB free since 8/24/10 and happier for it.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 18, 2010 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Sweet, someone picked up on it!

Thanks!

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by Ted Glover on Nov 18, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Okay, then,

if Chilly is Captain Queeg, then who is Lt. Tom Keefer?

TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is way more than half-full!

by NorthStarr on Nov 19, 2010 11:47 PM CST up reply actions  

+2 Caine Mutiny, Brillant. Great movie.

Now we need the Favre mutiny. Farve’s hurt & he is a trooper so he won’t quit. He’s just going to force the ball & throw another 3 interceptions. We have to cut the cord for him because he won’t do it. Get Tavaris out there. We have to know if he has learned & improved & if not we sure don’t want to wait until next year to find out. Hey lets just screw up one season at a time please.

by iowaron on Nov 18, 2010 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Not this week..

This week isnt the week you throw Tjack out there…Knowing Brett he will do what he thinks it takes to win the game…..Outcome yet to be determined

by Jonny Piff on Nov 18, 2010 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Great Q&A Ted

I’m having a hard time trying to rile up the hate this week as well…but with all the Clay Matthews talk, I was reminded of his stupid hair and how he mysteriously gained 50 pounds of muscle in college at USC. Hate successfully restored!

Proud contributor to Daily Norseman and SB Nation Minnesota

by Eric J. Thompson on Nov 18, 2010 10:30 AM CST reply actions  

And on the same team as Brian Cushing...

No, but really Matthews is a beast. And he comes from a bloodline of football players, so it’s possible he just needed a proper training and weightlifting.

BUT you should hate him because he used to be a Trojan and is a Packer. That’s all you need…

Pirates, Vikings, Hokies. I'm used to heartbreak. At least I have the Penguins....

"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-The Great One

by blackjackfishtaco on Nov 18, 2010 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Here is what Bruce Matthews, his HOF uncle looked like:
http://www.profootballhof.com/assets/default/Matthews_Bruce_250-175.jpg

Here is what Clay Jr (his dad) looked like (next to his uncle Bruce):
http://www.profootballhof.com/assets/default/Matthews_Bruce_250-175.jpg

Gonna say his bloodline and genes dictated that…

The hair IS crazy though!!

by TrevorR on Nov 19, 2010 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Super!

But “HATE” isnt gonna win football games…

by Jonny Piff on Nov 18, 2010 11:24 AM CST reply actions  

FALLACY!!

True Viking fans can conjure hate for anything Green and Gold (Vomit and Urine) in a moment’s notice!! (lol.)

Just win baby.

by Jepp The Viking on Nov 18, 2010 12:43 PM CST reply actions  

(Vomit and Urine)

Glad to see i am not the only one who sees the connection. :)

Darko is my bodyguard.

by Premier Cherdenko on Nov 18, 2010 9:11 PM CST up reply actions  

It is STILL the Packers!

The season’s win-loss record, who is playing for each team, the weather; none of it matters. It is still a Vikings-Packer game and fans on both sides will be fired up and ready. It is good to see Packer fans following The Daily Norseman and offering differing points of view without the emotional hyperbole.

I will be cheering for the Vikings and for the 100th time in this match-up, I will want to see a Viking victory at the end of the game. If fans can’t get up for this game, they’re either in a coma or they aren’t really fans.

by TexasViking on Nov 18, 2010 1:47 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Vikings fans
It is good to see Packer fans following The Daily Norseman and offering differing points of view without the emotional hyperbole.

are always welcome to do the same over at APC. :)

TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is way more than half-full!

by NorthStarr on Nov 20, 2010 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

I will be in the Mall of America Field this Sunday...........

and I will witness the Greatest QB in NFL History throwing and handing off to his full collection of offensive powerhose.

That means a total dismantling of the Green Bay Packers D!

Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!

Brett Favre will be back in 2010, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLV, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre in 2011 is inevitable!

by REVENGE4FAVRE on Nov 18, 2010 2:06 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is way more than half-full!

by NorthStarr on Nov 20, 2010 12:02 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not predicting anything...

… but if the Packers win and pick Favre off, I’ll enjoy it all the more knowing you dropped the money to see it in person.

BCB free since 8/24/10 and happier for it.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 18, 2010 5:48 PM CST up reply actions  

My Vote Goes To You

For the Ultimate Optimist award.

However, I cannot come close to matching your optimism. Green Bay wins this by 17+.

I AM VIKING, HEAR ME ROAR!!!

by BaldViking on Nov 18, 2010 6:32 PM CST up reply actions  

is it just me?

..or is chilly getting harder and harder to look at..

"the following statement is true:
the preceding statement was false" - george carlin

by BranFavrenton on Nov 18, 2010 4:03 PM CST reply actions  

Honestly...

I feel sorry for the guy..He is that guy who thinks he is super funny but no one laughs…

by Jonny Piff on Nov 18, 2010 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Rather than giving Matthews sleeping pills, I suggest cutting his hair. It seemed to spoil Jared Allen’s game.

by Bodysuit Man on Nov 18, 2010 4:48 PM CST reply actions  

I don’t think it was the hair cut, just getting married in general.

Pirates, Vikings, Hokies. I'm used to heartbreak. At least I have the Penguins....

"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-The Great One

by blackjackfishtaco on Nov 18, 2010 5:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Jared wouldn't look as bad if just one of the Williams had shown up this year.

Maybe someone should tell them they’re allowed on the other side of the line of scrimmage..

by Jshore on Nov 18, 2010 8:37 PM CST up reply actions  

DAMN I THOUGHT I WAS ON THE DN I FEEL LIKE IM IN PACK LAND JUST KIDDING PACK FANS GOOD LUCK ON SUNDAY!!!!!!!

by cali viking on Nov 18, 2010 7:16 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

PLEASE KEEP CHILD-RESS

I can hear the chants bellowing from packer fans throughout the hollow rafters of that god-foresaken stadium. A beautiful sound.

by TrevorR on Nov 19, 2010 11:41 AM CST reply actions  

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