Vikings Take 2010 Season, Tie It To A Tree, And Shoot It Multiple Times
by Christopher Gates on Nov 21, 2010 3:00 PM CST
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Hey, remember back when I said the Vikings would get their record to 7-3?
Well. . .I got the numbers right, at least.
Feel free to commiserate here, ladies and gentlemen. There will certainly be much more on this as the week goes along, particularly if there's any justice and we're talking about Head Coach Leslie Frazier here in a couple of days. Not that that's going to make any difference, considering that our defense now sucks every bit as hard as our offense.
Me? I'll be parked here in front of the Red Zone Channel, laughing at internet tough guys that have nothing else in their lives but football, and relaxing. Discuss the aftermath of this one, the late games. . .hell, discuss whatever you want right here.
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LOL ...
You Guys Have Way To Much Faith In Ziggy Wilf … Childress Will Finish The Season …
by VikinginCalifornia on Nov 21, 2010 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
Don't count the Viks out yet!
I think Farve can still comeback and beat green bay!
Well, at least this one wasn’t decided by close calls.
Pirates, Vikings, Hokies. I'm used to heartbreak. At least I have the Penguins....
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-The Great One
by blackjackfishtaco on Nov 21, 2010 3:18 PM CST reply actions
Changes.
At what point do we start making personnel changes? Shift people around, correct mistakes, do something.
D-Line isn’t getting it done. O-line consistent penalties. QB play sketchy from day 1. Secondary getting burned on IDENTICAL mishaps all day.
These are isolated incidents… ALL SEASON LONG. What exactly is our coaching staff waiting for?
Outlook on the remainder of the Viking season
I’m afraid it doesn’t look good Viking fans. I would say we are TOAST!!! Lick our wounds and look to next year. The 50th Anniversary of the Minnesota Vikings was a big fat goose egg!!!
Oh well, that’s the way it goes. Ca sera sera or something like that. CRAP!!!!!!!!
SKOL VIKINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unfortunately
I think that’s the Vikings for the next few years
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin
by thewild_viking_twins on Nov 21, 2010 3:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Watching the Rams-Falcons
here in StL, and I gotta say I wish Sam Bradford were a Viking.
The Daily Norseman
Off Tackle Empire
SB Nation Minnesota
"A parent's only as good as their dumbest kid. If one wins a Nobel Prize but the other gets robbed by a hooker, you failed."
I say try to find one in the draft
By all indications we’ll be rebuilding next season anyway. No point in bringing in a vet to waste their remaining good years on a rebuilding team.
What do the BCS & Brad Childress have in common? Both must go.
TJack can play well, he did so at the end of 2008 when he had a shot.
But right now, we have NO idea where’s he’s at. We need to put him in, and see how he does.
At this rate though, we’ll be shooting for a very high pick in the draft, maybe we can snag a good QB early on.
Well, now that we're out of it
Farve may retire in-season. Then Jackson will get his shot.
What do the BCS & Brad Childress have in common? Both must go.
by Td1984 on Nov 21, 2010 3:26 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He wasn't put in with 0:28 to go.
Why?
Just let him get some snaps, Favre is a dead project at this point.
Or Colt McCoy
He’s doing a decent job against some very tough teams.
Yeah I'm pretty upset about us not picking him up.
Although I would prefer getting a QB after Childress has been removed I’m not sure we can handle him molding another QB for this team…
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
Whats crazy is that Childress came in with the reputation of being a QB coach kinda guy. Yet the only one they really ever had him try to groom was Tjack…I would have thought they would bring in a few more, maybe some that weren’t so raw.
The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010
Sheet!
I am fuming inside about Colt McCoy. We could have nabbed him
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
I wanted colt the whole time.
i was bias being a texas fan, but he showed he is a guy that is a leader and who can get the job done. just as he did at texas.
SKOL VIKINGS 2010!!
He hasn't gotten much playing time, to be honest.
Rodgers has been durable, especially last year, when he was getting pounded week in and week out.
That being said, I think some teams would want a QB like Flynn on their roster.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Possibly hiking up Mount Marcy during the weekend of October 23-24. State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Nov 21, 2010 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
I suggested that back in September. As you can see though, I just couldn’t come up with a scenarios for how it would happen. I think Packers trade him in offseason, and then he gets an extension, before he becomes a free agent.
Unbelileveable
How can a team with so much talent, play so bad.. At least there will be 1 bright spot. Childress will not be head coach next yr. I also think we should clean house. Bring in new head coach and let him bring in all new coaches. Def has gotten worse as year as went along. At least we blitz some in 1st half and had me believing we would win today. As the old saying goes..Turn out the lights, the party is over. And with 6 games left too. Really unbelievable
Childress Post Game Interview
Was a joke. The guy sounds like he doesn’t even care. How can someone who sounds so apathetic about our team and situation still be the head coach?
Any word on the Bevell/You Know Who spat?
Bevell was clearly getting told to bugger off.
Lost draft choice
The 3rd round draft pick that Chilly gave up for Moss is looming large now!
At least we aren't the Bengals
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin
by thewild_viking_twins on Nov 21, 2010 3:28 PM CST reply actions
They were beating up on Buffalo at home
and ended up losing AT HOME!
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin
by thewild_viking_twins on Nov 21, 2010 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
Lions?
Have the Vikings become the Lions? Minnesota may be playing them for sole possession of the cellar in the NFC North on the last Sunday of the season.
by TexasViking on Nov 21, 2010 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
At least the Lions have something called a future
Peterson has four good seasons left in him at this point. Good luck finding a quarterback, no 1 wideout and an offensive line in those four years
The beginning of the end of the misery
Mr. Gates:
If it makes you feel any better: The ‘asian’ girl in McRibs is actually Hawaaiian – Melissa Paulo.
http://www.hawaiiprofiles.com/sub/MPaulo04.htm
The Lions have a lot of good young players
If they can fix the secondary and the offensive line a bit that team could easily contend for a wildcard spot next year
3-13 is within reach....you just gotta BELIEVE.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
We might get a good franchise QB out of it
What do the BCS & Brad Childress have in common? Both must go.
I bought tix for the Bills game..
But sold them on Friday night to a friend.
I bought them to get a chance to go to a game w/ a better view than I had gone before.
I bought them after they signed Randy Moss mid-season
I bought them when they had a legitimate chance for post-season.
They released R. Moss and I was already contemplating selling them, they have been playing poorly and I was still thinking of selling…
I figured, if I sold them, I would likely regret it…
Could I still be right?
I feel that I made a pretty good decision and still came out ahead profit wise.
I know we’re all thinking.. This loss will be a blessing in disguise (Or so we hope) really depends on if Zygi pulls the trigger and releases Childress.
Overall, in my opinion, this whole season for most, if not all teams has been pretty messy. The AFC is the only conference w/ a little bit of consistency…
Temporary separation
Been a Viking fan since 68, but am seriously considering going to the enemy. I was born in Wisconsin so it wouldn’t be totally weird.
What's really wierd
Is I’ve been a Vikings fan since the early 90s (when I first started to pay attention to football & lived in Southern California), but I went to HS with Aaron Rodgers. It’s been a little uncomfortable knowing one of the guys I went to High School with is quarterbacking our arch-rival.
What do the BCS & Brad Childress have in common? Both must go.
What's really weird
Is that I can’t have any animosity for Rodgers. I appreciate everything he did at Cal far too much to be down on him just being in Green Bay.
California Golden Blogs! "Woeojuwejhdjwe!!!"... But what does it MEAN?!
by Maisbikkja on Nov 21, 2010 3:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
That is weird
Why didn’t you like be-friend him and take him to like buffets & and have him eat a lot of candy. Make him really fat and lazy..
Than we wouldn’t have to deal w/ him now :)
Had I known he'd end up in Green Bay
I probably would have lol.
What do the BCS & Brad Childress have in common? Both must go.
Plus, you'll get to blend in with all the Favre fans who drift back to the Packers at the end of the year.
But seriously, stick with your team. Bad times make the good times all that much more fun. I spent the first 18 years of my Packer fan-dom wondering if they’d ever make the playoffs in a non-strike year. Then the 90’s came, and it’s pretty much been a party ever since. There have been some rough times, but the good times make ’em worth it.
BCB free since 8/24/10 and happier for it.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 21, 2010 4:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
hmm
i thought he was going to be the magic fix to the season some 2 months ago…..
by Glenn'sYank13 on Nov 21, 2010 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
ok, i can say the season is over......
but c’mon……..its the end of the future for this team. even if we have to rebuild there are still solid pieces there. this team is nowhere as decimated as the lions were thanks to matt millen. besides…….a bad record = a good draft pick……..and we just go from there.
Good things come to those who keep fighting
Yup
Unless you are the Detroit Lions, or post-1994 Buffalo BIlls…or Houston Texans…Cincinatti Bengals, for that matter…going from a disastrous season to a Super Bowl contender is a matter of a couple seasons and a few good personnel moves.
The Vikings can rebuild quickly—it is the whole point of the draft, free agency, and salary cap.
Teams like the Steelers and Patriots who are at least competitive every year are the real anomalies in this system.
Oh, wait—CBA expiring, possible lockout…crap.
by Midnight Rambler on Nov 21, 2010 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
Don't forget
No new stadium. Viking’s lease expires. Los Angelos, here we come.
God hates us.
A good coach makes his team better, he doesn’t wait for a better team to make him look good.
new england will have a good draft pick
in the 3rd round
by PoohRubio on Nov 21, 2010 3:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
"new england will have a good draft pick in the 3rd round"
Thanks for reminding me of that…
by Midnight Rambler on Nov 21, 2010 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
brett favre press conference is the same lame crap that he always spews...
blah, blah, blah….me, me, me….i really take pride in my play….it’s not the first time darrel and i have…me and darrel are okay. i mean, c’mon it’s like jim mora said…playoffs?
i wanna barf at the apathy in his whole persona.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
So from this point
Do we lose all our remaining games so we can draft a top quarterback?
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Nov 21, 2010 3:41 PM CST reply actions
The whole idea of tanking makes me sick to my stomach
even if it would mean us getting Luck, Mallett or somebody else capable of turning this around.
What do the BCS & Brad Childress have in common? Both must go.
It makes me relieved
It could be the silver lining. Vikes have needed a (young) no. 1 quarterback for a long time. While I am hope to see TJack finish the season, I doubt he is the guy.
put a body on 'em
I garuntee even if we had teh #1 pick childress still wouldn't pick a QB.
He’d wait for the 5th round and pick up another project prodigy.. What a douche.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
i want this packer game to be brett favre's last game of his career....kick him to the bench.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
And jethro did u watch the game? because outside of the pick favre had no time to throw he had 2 secs every play thats a joke no qb will do anything when the pocket breaks down evry fucken play it s THE O LINE THAT IS AT FAULT WATCH THE GAME AGAIN AND U WILL SEE THE O LINE IS A FUCKEN JOKE!!!!!
yep, watched it...and the o-line sux balls. a mobile qb would have a better chance, imo.
but this season is toast. and bratt pisses me off. he held this team hostage. so i have no sympathy for him. if something isn’t working, we should try something else. and brett is a liability for the offense because of his lack of mobility and his inconsistent throwing.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
YEA but the inconsistent throwing is because of the lack of protection you have to admit he would do better with more time I.E not rushing his throws and if you do watch he is pretty damn moble he was only sacked once and that was a joke shouldnt of been a sack and im saying not any of are
we are 3-7 with him at the helm. he has thrown 17 picks so far this year.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
I got cut off WTF anyways none of R QBs would prospare from this fucked up O LINE NOT EVAN TJ BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE READY FOR A MOBILE QB AND HE WOULD BE RUNNING FOR HIS LIFE ANY WAY U LOOK AT IT ITS THE O LINE THATS FUCKING US UP!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cali bud
The whole thing sucks. Despite poor O-line play I say AGAIN times where Favre, even at his age, could have run and slid for a 1st down. Instead he threw garbage. Jax or Webb would have gotten 10-20 yards and kept things moving.
I noted to a friend that I saw the huddle break and it was like " are we done. Can we have lunch now?"
Pathetic attitude which rests on the coaching atmosphere.
Favre could have made choices to to run and gain, but didn’t. I would rather see the guy just hang it up. Save the Vikes $., then let Webb and jax have a regular season evaluation for the future.
Bob Lurtsama noted how good Ryan Perriloux looked in FA tryouts. Bring him in as a 3rd til we draft or sign a replacement. -I KNOW Ain’t gonna happen.
We go after established O-lines in free agency. We give Leslie temporayr reign and see how it turns out. Make the decision based on what mentality he brings to the team. One on the brink..
Lets draft a decent QB.
We have the players. We just need to see which ones will buck it up. We lost our 3rd pick so just dumping guys is not a good option. Fill needs in FA and draft and dump the dead meat from that point
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 6:31 PM CST up reply actions
dead weight
Berrian- FRAIL pu$$ 5.5 M/yr
N.TAHI- What a fn joke, 950k/yr
M.Williams- bad angles whiffer 5.5 Mill/yr
TJak career backup at-best
TY Johnson younger madeiu
R Cook see tj
L Sheppard OLD + 3M/yr
Baskett & Lewis- example of BC’s “vision”, R U serious!
A Allen big? needs to improve FAST
SKOL! Dawgs
by WarriorViking on Nov 21, 2010 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
Come on......
there were at least 6 throws that were completely off target. And, he is still throwing balls down and to the left way too often, especially on out routes.
Amen jeth
Somewhere in the early 3rd it eas time for T-joke. But for the stupid rule-Webb it is time to start the competition in real game situations.
Thanks Brett but do us a favor and save the team $ and retire. If ya want go back to GB for a final farewell
Chilly is an idiot and should have benched you for not only performance but for your health..
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
Favre retiring won't save us $$$
I believe his contract is guaranteed. Just like last season once he took a snap this year, he was going to make every last cent his contract owed him, even if that snap was his only one.
What do the BCS & Brad Childress have in common? Both must go.
sorry Matthews would have blown TJack up. Get off the mobile part. That defense would
have slaughtered TJack the same way they did to Favre.
by SeanInEauClaireWi on Nov 21, 2010 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
favre is a sitting duck...at least bevell could call a designed roll out with t-jack.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
Keep Sucking Favre's Cock you Dumbass
You’re a joke if you think Favre is the best QB on the Vikes.
Hogwash
Favre is our “Only” chance of winning. TJ is not and Webb will be one day but not now. Brett had a bad day, but he didn’t give up all those TDs and long gains….that’s the Defense. And how many times was Favre hit or hurried or sacked today…too many. That Offensive line all needs work and no matter who you start, they’re gonna need a lot more than just some fast feet. Favre’s age is showing, BUT he’s are best chance if we have ANY chance of winning a few more games.
"Skol Vikings! Let's win this game Skol Vikings!
I think what people are saying is this
We are not getting to the play offs. So, winning, losing isn’t as important. It’s more important (in my mind especially) to make sure that we don’t thikn TJ is the permanent answer once Favre leaves. That’s the important thing. So we know what to draft next year.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
Favre did not play well ... but if you think that he was the worst playing viking on the field, you are mistaken
The problems go MUCH deeper than that. Favre was just the tip of the iceberg — i.e the most visible part, but a minority of the total object.
That’s how it’s been the whole season really. The defensive line, in my opinion, is the biggest reason for your struggles so far.
by packallday555 on Nov 21, 2010 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
Sad
Balls are not bouncing our way..
Could this be the players way of saying… Dump Childress?
Ya never know! :P
Last season- Favre had the passion to play......
this season, a few players had the passion for HIM to play. He did not, there is your season.
are you kidding me jethro?
if anything, that just showed the complete opposite of chilly. favre’s the team guy, he said we’re in it together, win or lose. as for darrell, he was just answering the question and he’s being real about our shot (if any) at the playoffs.
and favre has the passion, you gotta be kidding me if you don’t think he wants to play. the dude puts everything he has into every throw, play, and even on the bench when he’s not on the field, reviewing the playbook or going over his last thrown pick. don’t bash him man, at least not for the sake of the whole team. the D blew it today too
He is one of the few guys on this team that has not quit.
The majority of the team has quit on this season. But not Favre.
ray edwards hasn't quit....brett is mailing it in.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
favre is apathetic. he is just talking up there at the podium. telling you what you wanna hear.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
Wrong - Bruschi is never right, especially not about Favre
"Skol Vikings! Let's win this game Skol Vikings!
So
Your going to criticize him for showing the team respect and attempting to be a class act?
I am sure if you really heard what was on his mind, he would be scrutinized.
Let’s say Favre thought this & said it.. “It was the play calling… We couldn’t execute the plays and we need more creativity. The defense needs to step it up and we need some of our offensive players to step up and make plays. Looking back at our season, it would of been helpful to have Rice back for the whole season.. blah blah blah blah blah…” Imagine if his words related to that?
Yes, Favre is going to basically spit his words to show class….. By talking for the team and giving the other team credit for playing good when we ‘lose’.
Atleast he would've been telling us the truth
and not giving us the usually re-runs or garbage of “we need to do better”, “we need to play better”.
It would be nice for someone to flat out say what the hell is going wrong.
I understand why he said what he said and I don’t have a problem with the fact that he was trying to bite his tongue and looked pretty upset. I don’t have a problem with his conference at all but the time for “needing to play better as a team” has come and gone. It’s nice to sit here and say that for 10 weeks over and over but unless you do it, talk is cheap.
i didn't say he didn't show class...i am ctiticizing him for his apathy.
$20 million should buy a guy who wants to win, a guy who hates losing, and a guy who will inspire others….brett talks like his dawg just died and his truck broke down, and ma wife left me fer another woman….
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
wouldn't you get tired of answering the same d@mn questions for the 7th time this season too?`
What’s his alternative? Go up there and say he’s not gonna take those questions anymore, he’s gonna interview himself lol?
losing doesn't seem to bother him, winning doesn't seem to be important to him either.
for $20 million i want a winner. brett is acting like an old, tired apathetic turd.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
remember, brett is a rental. i am a viking fan. brett is not a viking.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
The word 'gigolo' comes to mind.
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is way more than half-full!
Last season........
Favre was having fun, and demonstrated the confidence to lead the offense. Remember the pump fakes, the second and third looks he would make on the field, faking defenses out of their cleats? NONE of that has taken place this season. It is puzzling.
Not saying he has given up.....
he has played this way from the start of the season. He does not have the same commanding presence he had last year. I’m afraid the ass-kicking he received in NFCCG has had a lasting impact.
I think it did, but not in the way you think.
I think that game exposed Favre as a non-mobile QB who, when pressured, loses his accuracy and is liable to throw a pick. So now the rest of the league knows how to play him – and with the O Line playing poorly, any decent defense should be able to beat the Vikes on any given day.
Not really
It is not that puzzling, its pressure. Last season, teams tried to lay back because they feared Farve hitting a deep pass on them or AP breaking a long run. So they played more of a contain defense. This season, they are not playing a contain defense. They are playing a pressure defense. So Farve goes back and he does not have the amount of time to scan the field like he did previously. He has to get the ball out and he doesn’t have anyone to really get the ball to. When the team brought Moss in, there was fear in the defenses again and the team offense started to jell. Moss have a few tds, Harvin and AP were starting to click. The offense would have really jelled by now. However, Childress took this team back to week 3 and this is what you get.
So the blame for this season is really in the hands of Childress and Wilf. How many points did the Vikings put on Green Bay in Green Bay. It wasn’t a coincidence that we had Moss on the field for that game. Today, no Moss, no real deep threat, Packers pressure and offense doesn’t exist any more.
As far as the Viking defense, they did not play that bad. The Packers have a good offense, you know they are going to move the ball, they are going to put some points on the board. Anyway, I do not think it is all Farve’s fault, but Childress needs to go.
by Tnshow_knoxville on Nov 21, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
There's a lot of truth in this.
Rice was back today and there were some plays there to be made, but it didn’t happen. If Rice had been healthy all year this wouldn’t be a 3-7 team.
BCB free since 8/24/10 and happier for it.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 21, 2010 4:32 PM CST up reply actions
I agree
It has just been a comedy of errors for this team this year when you think about it. When it was announced Rice would be out. The Vikes brought in Javon Walker. Who I thought had done pretty well in the preseason and he already had chemistry with Walker. However, Childress cuts him before the season starts.
Then, there was such excitement surrounding the team when Moss came back. The team signs him right when they were heading into their rough stretch. Even, with the team coming out and being 2-5 and I knew the rough stretch was over. There was so many positives that were starting to happen. Childress blows that up.
I have a hard time blaming Farve for everything because he is playing with two broken bones in his foot, elbow problems and shoulder problems. However, I have no problems in blaming Childress for obvious errors.
by Tnshow_knoxville on Nov 21, 2010 5:37 PM CST up reply actions
Hey Ted
I sold about 3 Pack jerseys at the pub today. If you could mention on your site i sell for doing volunteer trips. Pass them my e-mail list on my profile
Thanks
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 6:40 PM CST up reply actions
Remember the pump fakes, the second and third looks he would make on the field, faking defenses out of their cleats? NONE of that has taken place this season. It is puzzling.
Ummm … just exactly how puzzling can it be that he’s not doing second and third looks, when he doesn’t have time to do them?
Really Mel Allen, this isn’t exactly rocket science. Don’t be so obtuse.
of course favre cant just throw it in
he has to get himself to 300.
by Glenn'sYank13 on Nov 21, 2010 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
yes
because the o line blows. have you seen get him any time? loadholt can’t pick up blitzes, his receivers can’t catch the balls. yes favre’s made some HORRIBLE throws, he’s nothing like he was last year, but to put the blame squarely on his shoulders is completely wrong
the o-line totally blows. i'm not putting the blame squately on favre....but he is getting $20 million this year.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
there is plenty of blame to go around...and favre is gonna get his share from me.
like right now…..bratt, you money-grubbing, dick-picting, pix-sixing, apathetic old fart. you shoulda got your ass into camp like any other player on the team and played for the very generous $13 million that you were already under contract for. you salty old fart….you smell like peanuts.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
by jethrophet on Nov 21, 2010 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Re: Loadhold
He is so slow, I’ll bet he gets beat on walk-thru during practice! I hear he complains cuz snails are so fast!
lol
rice has a contract year too, he mailed it in for nine games. blame on his doctor too yes, but cmon he could’ve played last week and given us a shot. aside from harvin, ap, kluwe, and a couple other guys, I don’t see many people playing with the heart from last year. defensive front four is dormant, secondary is atrocious, o-line can’t do anything. if courage is what you show in the face of adversity, most of our players fail big time.
Some of you must have beer goggles on...
Favre was horrible today..You see all the over throws..Throwing into double coverage…He is lucky he didnt have 3-4 picks…Its over for this team…Time to shift gears and like I said on another blog get some reps for the young guys especially tjack and see if we wanna resign him and move forward with him as starting QB….Childress and Bevell still make the worst play calls..I dont know how many times they keep running to the middle and get stuffed..Some of you are so blinded by Favre you dont wanna actually see the game through unbiased eyes..Anyone who says there is still a chance is crazy….Favre was not good today…Abdullah was bad to..Blew lots of coverage..Im in the process of watching the game tape right now..For those hating on OLINE they gave up 1 sack all game to a team who blitzs 75% of the time..You cant expect DBs to hold coverage for 15secs with the opposing QB running around the pocket…You also cannot expect Cook or Allen to cover Jennings 1 on 1..Rodgers is good enough to make those reads everytime..Face it my beloved team is BAD this year…
JONNY THE O LINE IS NOT GIVING HIM ANY TIME TO THROW THATS WHY THE POOR THROWS AND THE BEER TASTES GREAT!!!!
i can't hear you, could you speak up?
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
i can see your mouth moving, but i can't hear the words....try toggling the mute button.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
lol
BCB free since 8/24/10 and happier for it.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 21, 2010 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
Happens to me to Cali
Have todisagree on one thing. Fave was missing throws, throwing into double coverage.
Not just him. Did you see the huddles. No umphh! Came out like they were uninspired by anything. Goes to the Coaching.
For the future and Favres health. Bench him. Gorget this streak. No one cares and there is one guy ahead of him he will not catch. Losing to prolong astreak is retarded
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
well, it's not that "the o-line only gave up one sack"....it's that favre knows to get rid of it fast
because he won’t get protection from those fat windbags up front, and he can’t move around.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
True......
but, sadly, this team has not been in a position all season to pound it relentlessly. I can’t remember a lead being larger than 7 all year.
the good news is that we know longwell can hit it from 51 yards out.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
but that's okay...the points didn't count anyway.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
I say we get a new o line and a new QB and see how that works simple enough!!!! there my button is fixed
Anyone else find it really hard to believe
Chilly wanted to go for a 3 when we were down 21 points with time dwindling?
Season in retrospect from a suffering 29 y/o fan,whose 1st memory is of darren nelson
Might go a little long hereso bear with me.
Lets start with good ole number 4, forget everything we did last year and everything this guy did in the years past, we are talking about a 41 y/o beat up former shell of himself. wh owhile yes he can throw it still with the best of them there is something wrong, dont know what it is but its something major. If it wasnt for his name he wouldve been benched weeks ago,(no i dontblame him for still playing thats a coaches desicion to make).
OL had its moments both good and bad overall its a wash
DL had NO moments whatso ever this whole season( dont bring up the ARZ game- the last 45 sec and Ot dont count in my book-). We play overall a cover2 system which is predicated on getting to the QB with our front 4, blitzing too much doesnt help, cause a decent QB can find the open guy in a blitzing cover2. and yes i blame everyone for this failure from 69-93-94-91(who doesnt deserve a big contract after this year can spend it better then on him) and to fraizer for not realizing this. Im sorry to say but everyone who has jumped on the frazier band wagon is hope misplaced, besides for last year when we harrased the opposing QBS non stop are secondary usually placed midpack or towards the bottom of the league.
thats it for now my fingers are hurting be back later to continue.
p.s. excuse me for spelling/grammer/ punctation errors, very pissed off right now.
by bleed purple and gold on Nov 21, 2010 4:13 PM CST reply actions
Hey!
AP shouldn’t be sat on until there is a lead. He can GET you a lead or help you catch up.
Until a team is down 3 TDs that guy should be the focus of the offense.
He’s arguably the best offensive player in the NFC. It’s insane to me that the Vikes forget about him during games. Absolutely insane.
And it just makes him more unlikely to sign back up with the Vikes
ugh . . . . I hate the play calling.
put a body on 'em
I couldn't be happier
The Favre bandwagon brigade is on the way out the door and Childress is most likely gone before our next game. I never supported the Favre signing and it only led to the most unworthy extension in football history, good riddance.
Tired of crying
speak for yourself moron
I am a Favre homer and I am still here. SKOL VIKINGS
by SeanInEauClaireWi on Nov 21, 2010 4:46 PM CST up reply actions
I have hoped for Favre's failure in every game he has played for us
Don’t try to put that bandwagon badge on me.
Tired of crying
GB fans were nice to me at the pub
They agree that letting Leslie take over now on a trial basis would be the best thing.
You tell him the final decision will be based on performance the rest of the year. If we like what we see-your hired.
Questions and it will be open to interviews.
The GBers were asking me if the over and under on Chilly is 24 hours.
I was hoping for like one hour.
The thing is,
Does firing a coach in midseason lead to a team playing worse or better? Clearly, Dallas is playing better now with Garrett as HC.
Open question: would firing Childress and hiring, say, Frazier, make the Vikings play better, worse, or about the same?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Possibly hiking up Mount Marcy during the weekend of October 23-24. State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Nov 21, 2010 6:28 PM CST up reply actions
You would be evaluating the coach on an interim basis
You see if the problem lies in leadership. You get a jump on what moves need to be made to fix a sinking ship
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 6:45 PM CST up reply actions
to answer your question, we need to fire chilly and give it a try. inquiring minds want to know.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
Depends on who's the Offensive Coordinator
If it’s still Bevell, then I don’t think anything’s going to change re playcalling, and it’s awfully hard to change a Defensive philosophy in mid-season. And with Frazier as coach, I don’t think he’d want to anyway. Bottom Line – maybe they’ll play harder, but the playcalling and D will remain the same.
Favre will probably be happier, word on the street is that Frazier is a players coach who actually listens and takes advice from his players. Something Childress never did (which is why Moss was so pissed and why he and Favre had such a rift between them).
The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010
I was surprised to see him still employed
when I got home from the sports bar where I watched the game. :)
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is way more than half-full!
O line
O line should have been addressed in last yrs draft. farve is running for his life on every play. saying that he still threw some terrible passes. last yr was our chance boys. we shoulda,coulda,woulda. coming out of the time out with 12 men on the field will give me nightmares till the day i die. some of the throws rodgers made today were impossible to cover. can’t blame the db’s for all of them. most of these guys are going through the motions
Youre right deadeye. I said the oline was the key.
It was the key to our running game & it is the key to pass protection. We did nothing to address it.
We are taking on water faster than the Titanic. Well maybe now Zigi will do something.
that's...
stupid. you’re rooting against your team because you don’t like one of the players? especially a player who gives everything he’s got every single freakin game? wow
I refused to support such a desperate move
It didn’t pay off in the end anyways. Minnesota is full of fair-weather groupies and this move exposed to that to light.
Tired of crying
Honestly, this game hurt less than the previous loss to Green Bay
I was pissed at the refs and the NFL for a week or two after the last Packers game. Now I just wonder what next year will look like.
Anyone that "cheers" for their "favorite team"
To lose football games probably isn’t a fan of the team at all.
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by Christopher Gates on Nov 21, 2010 4:25 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Judging by your profile pic
You are a Favre fan, its only natural that you would get mad at me due to my stance on the situation at hand.
Tired of crying
And you're such a fan that you have been here on DN 10 days
Cai is as loyal as any fan on here. This is the 2nd trash talking “rookie” to come on here today.
Better realize we are a group of friends. PT for a guy who has visited her for an astronomical 10 days, stop with your judgements.
Calling out a profile. Yours shows a 10 day membership.
if you are looking for a blog to shit on others, you found the wrong place.
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 6:17 PM CST up reply actions
yah. Profile judgements???
he is a Suns fan and true Minnesotan? I cheer for the wolves no matter how bad they suck. I don’t care for NBA but don’t hold another team over my home team.
PT Lay off on loyalty. I have been around for the whole show. But, I cheer with many non native fans each week.
You haven’t been here long enough to throw stones.
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 6:59 PM CST up reply actions
I'm a Wolves fan as well.
Steve Nash is my favorite player. This type of thing is justified when it comes to Favre on the Vikes but nowhere else? Hmm…
Tired of crying
rookie?
you do understand this is a blog right?
by theamazingape on Nov 21, 2010 9:39 PM CST up reply actions
I dont care who r QB is i just want the vikes to win at any cost and i do like favre but if he sucks put in some one else as long as we win un like u you would want us to loose because of a player thats BS if u r a true fan u would want the vikes to win period I dont give a fuck where your from a fan wants his team to win PERIOD iM DONE WITH YOUR MONKEY ASS BYE!!!!!!!!!
How did he do that?
By having a differing opinion than a guy who has been here for 2 weeks and makes judgements on regulars as if he is the end all on football and has all the credentials to judge personalities of fans who have been here for years?
Quiet down everyone. Stop your posts. PT is here and there is no need to have any opinion cause he has all the answers. All we have to do is watch the “PT show” and we’ll know everything there is to know about the Vikings
Humble yoursel,f son. I learn far more than i contribute
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 7:06 PM CST up reply actions
Getting sick of the whiners and know it alls who have come by
to show us how to think. Trash talk and name calling is NOT going to be tolorated – Unless in response to an unruly troll. (PS not all visitors are trolls) You can spot which ones are here to visit or be trouble
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 7:13 PM CST up reply actions
Hypocritical statement.
I simply expressed how I felt regarding Favre and I get told how to think because I am “not a true fan”. Use your head!
Tired of crying
No you said and I quote every time favre played you wished the vikes would lose .. In a round about way thats how this thing started !!!!!
Your right PT I amTHAT DUMB and your the greatest vikes fan ever and with fans like you we should just give up if we dont like a player on the team and hope for the worst and to lose every game because of that player I guess thats the new thing to do HOPE FOR YOUR TEAM TO LOSE your the man PT good luck on being the best vikes fan of all time great job!!!!
3-7
Nothing else matters. You are a grown man, calm down. You are making up things that I never wrote or even implied.
Tired of crying
There you go again PT
Name calling is not what we do here. You want to go back to the blog where people get off on rudeness? I’ll open the door and show you out.
Your not starting out well here
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
You jumped on me.
I didn’t start this, you could have just let me be but you know everything, right? Ha!
Tired of crying
How the hell do you know who is a bandwagoner here?
You’ve been here 2 weeks and know everyone?
Hypocritical? How bout you dilusional and not going to fit in with, and I quote "You have proved your stupidity " and "Minnesota born and raised, you cant tell me shit " .
I am born and raised MinnesotanI
I can tell you lots of shit. One is I know many non native fans who love this team and in their heart wish they were Minnesotan.
By the way, quoting me as saying you are not a true fan is an out and out lie. That’s the crap i am talking about. My quotes were taken from your posts
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 7:40 PM CST up reply actions
I'm getting sick of whiners trying to tell us how to think.
Applies to this post. You guys are having a mid-life crises over this stuff.
Tired of crying
I was basing my statement on the lack of comprehension and spelling errors that plagued his post.
Whats with these out of state bandwagoners?
Tired of crying
Pt im not a bandwagoner MF ive been a vikes fan my whole life and I for one will never want my team to lose now u pissed me off just cause u live in minni does not mean you are a true fan because like Chris said a true fan will never want his team to lose thats that FU !!!!!!!!!!!!! And just because I dont live in Minne does not mean Im a bandwagoner last I checked you just got here ive been here a while !!! I f your a fan then fine but dont say you want this team to lose it just sounds FKN stupid now say what ever you want im done with you !!! You should of been swallowed!!!!
As I stated before, it really doesn't matter what we think because we don't play the games.
But I refuse to support Favre and/or Childress.
Tired of crying
Nor do I support them
See. We agree. Cali and I disagree. But we have become friends here. we don’t resort to calling people stupid
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
You chose to attack me on his behalf
That was your decision, I never had any ill will towards you and I still could care less about this whole thing.
Tired of crying
IN all reality lets try to keep these post about football not personal attacks.
and then we’ll all be happier. I know plenty of us are pissed off now, but if you need to vent your anger go hit a Packer fan or choke a puppy or something.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
Yep Just POed about the day
But Chilly is now gone
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 22, 2010 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
And I give 2 SHITS about spelling errors moron!!!! Im not here to make sure the spelling police are happy you got that officer PT!!!!
Your keyboard is pressing charges!
He’s abusing caps lock! call 911!
Tired of crying
by PurpleTears on Nov 21, 2010 7:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Here we go again
Just go away. We also don’t have grammer police. If you had been here awhile you may have read one post I made and others stated. We are a blog. We are not grading term papers. I am disabled but have a Masters Degree. My hands and vision effected. We have folks who are not fortunate enough to have had a good education or we have young fans who post and are not the gramatical brain you are.
We don’t have a test here to prove if your grammer skills are at a college level. We are fans
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
PT your pathetic now you are going to make fun of a disabled man talk shit to me all you want but lay off Citrus!!!!!!!!
I can and will
the strength of will led me to walk again. In case you din’t know it takes great amounts of arm and shoulder strength in rehab. Continuous physical reps. I can still bench 275lbs 3 times.
My son who plays HS football will still not get into a should slug match withthe old man.
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
in an old English version of the word. But yes I’ll give you a point on the spelling contest for that one. I missed that one.
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 11:27 PM CST up reply actions
I was sick but sadly had gotten immune to losing
that is what irritates me. I should be on the edge of my seat til seasons end. Today I cheered a FG. Sad but true
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
Mentally disabled?
Sure seems that way. Leave me alone if you don’t like me, I didn’t ask for your feedback.
Tired of crying
You just crossed a line bitch
I realize there’s nothing I can do on-line – but you just went too far – you got a conscience -
You are the lowest life form I have ever seen here
Are you that miserable you make fun or people less fortunate. But I can guarantee I don’t feel sorry for myself . You proboly push old ladies out of the way in the buffet line.
By the way. I volunteer with the mentally disabled and would rather be around them than the likes of you.
You have no home here
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 8:01 PM CST up reply actions
You aren't mentally disabled
And I never made fun of your physical limitations, stop crying over nothing. It’s sad.
Tired of crying
I don't cry over it
To be honest you would be shocked to see me whip your ass if I ever saw you.
You took a statement and made a sick joke of it. You don’t even know what you re saying to people. Read the post you made again you sorry ass punk-
“Mentally disabled? Sure seems that way. Leave me alone if you don’t like me, I didn’t ask for your feedback.”
That was made in response to my comment -
. I am disabled but have a Masters Degree. My hands and vision effected. We have folks who are not fortunate enough to have had a good education or we have young fans who post and are not the gramatical brain you are.
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 9:35 PM CST up reply actions
Disabled man threatening to physically harm me?
I can’t ever take you serious after that one. Masters Degree? Okay, you still can’t spell “grammatical” correctly. : )
Tired of crying
my screen vision is blurred and my hands shake when keyboarding .
You are a pinhead in the 1st degree. You wouldn’t have survived what I did. Not alone do the things I can now.
You wonder why cali jumped on you. You are just a poor excuse for a human being. By the way. I see most the errors but don’t give a shit. Know why. Cause no one else here does. they can figure typos out. I don’t need to waste time reading thu my wrror to please others-especialy you.
Oh my. I missed an “L” call the DN spelling patrol
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 10:01 PM CST up reply actions
I'm getting to you.
Time for you to take a break from the computer.
Tired of crying
by PurpleTears on Nov 21, 2010 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
like I said Citrus fk him hes not worth your time
by cali viking on Nov 21, 2010 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
You guys came at me
Not the other way around. Stop playing the victim role.
Tired of crying
by PurpleTears on Nov 21, 2010 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
emotions are running high here with good reason i know
but i think you need to step back from this one. Publicly.
Well, then, allow me to tell you
As someone that’s been a fan of this team for 27 seasons (counting this one).
Hoping for a team to fail because you don’t like one of their players is juvenile, and makes you a crappy fan.
Did we all hate Brett Favre when he was in Green Bay? Yep, we sure did. . .and I was probably at the head of that line. But hey, you know. . .he’s our team’s quarterback. And you know what I like more than watching the Vikings play football? Watching the Vikings win.
I don’t cheer for Brett Favre or Adrian Peterson or Randy Moss or Jared Allen. . .I cheer for the Minnesota Vikings, and whoever the front office deems to put on the roster to support those efforts. Hell, if Charles Manson can catch a slant pass, sign his ass up and line him up next to Harvin.
But in 27 seasons, I have never once cheered for this team to lose. I’ve cheered for the Packers or the Bears or whoever to lose, but since the Vikings are my favorite team, the thought of hoping that they lose makes me physically ill.
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by Christopher Gates on Nov 21, 2010 4:37 PM CST up reply actions
I've made almost this exact speech....
…. multiple times to a bunch of “Packer fans” who bailed and bought Jets and then Vikings jerseys the last three years.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 21, 2010 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
Yep
We’ve got a faction like that, too. . .I like to think of them as the “Ol’ 98ers”. . .meaning they jumped on in 1998 and haven’t been happy since.
A lot of these same people are still pissed at Randy Moss not being here. . .you know, the guy that has one catch in two games as a member of the Tennessee Titans. (Don’t get me wrong. . .I’m not happy about the Moss thing, either. . .but I’m more pissed at the fact that it cost us a third-round pick to “figure out” that Moss is done than the fact that he’s no longer on the roster.)
Hell, the first season I was a fan of this team was, quite possibly, the worst team in Vikings’ history. . .the Les Steckel disaster of 1984. If I was going to bail on this team, that’s when I would have done it. (-:
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by Christopher Gates on Nov 21, 2010 4:45 PM CST up reply actions
But you survived that year,
So you = true fan.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Possibly hiking up Mount Marcy during the weekend of October 23-24. State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Nov 21, 2010 6:31 PM CST up reply actions
Couple of thoughts
As long as Moss draws double coverage, he is opening up the field for the other players on the team. I do not think he is washed up at all. I believe he had a couple of touchdowns with the Vikings this year before the idiot Head Coach cut him. I, also, believe the offense was just starting to click when we release him as well. However, as the Head Coach said, we do not need him. As far as losing a 3rd round pick, yep, that is about as stupid as it can get.
Now, I have been a fan since the early 70’s so as far as bad seasons, I think this is by far the worst that I have seen. The Steckel year was terrible; however, the expectations that year were not to be in the Super Bowl. Nor did that team have the talent that this team has. So in many ways, this may be the worst season that I have seen this team have.
by Tnshow_knoxville on Nov 21, 2010 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
Randy Moss
In two weeks in Tennessee has a total of one catch.
Sidney Rice had more catches than that today after missing all of training camp and the first nine games of the season.
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by Christopher Gates on Nov 21, 2010 10:14 PM CST up reply actions
Aren't you the guy who ripped me for responding to you...
… after we supposedly agreed not to do that anymore? And now here you are…
I call them like I see them. That was true 25 years ago at the nadir of the franchise, it was true last year when it wasn’t always all that easy to be a Packer fan and it’s true this year too. You don’t agree and that’s your business, but to be quite honest, I don’t really give a damn what your opinion of me is.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 21, 2010 8:51 PM CST up reply actions
after we supposedly agreed not to do that anymore?
puhlease. You forget that I have now gone to Acme and read your bragging there just a week ago, that you are trying to egg me on here. But you continue with this innocent act here. Especially following up this not so thinly disguised slam above about “Packer fans who bailed by buying Vikings jerseys,” which lives up to your claim at Acme that you are still trying to get under my skin:
Oh and Chris Gates, if you have no idea how much TSSC really despises you, and DN ingeneral, you really should read up over there, e.g. this. The dude spits on you behind your back.
well, maybe i deserve it. Maybe fans should die rooting for the teams they were born closest to. maybe we should not choose them, they choose us.
But the ahole acting like he’s not doing this on purpose makes him a bigger prick than whatever I may be.
"Well maybe I deserve it."
Yes.
“Maybe fans should die rooting for the teams they were born closest to. Maybe we should not choose them, they choose us.”
Not at all. I know people who choose to be fans of teams located a long ways from where they live, even when there’s a relatively local team. I’ve got no problem with that.
What I have no respect for, what I regard as pathetic, is a guy who chooses, and then chooses again when his first choice becomes inconvenient. I don’t give you shit because you’re a Viking fan (partly because I don’t think you really are a Viking fan). I give you shit because you’re a turncoat, and because you try to create some of kind of new mythology and ethos that makes the decision to turn coat the noble, ethical and moral choice, instead of the weak-minded one it is.
Hey, it’s just football. I don’t like what I see of you, but in all other, and far more important aspects, you might be a nice guy. But I am sort of glad I’ll never find out based on what I see of you around here.
Later.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 21, 2010 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
I'd pretend to be surprised
But, really. . .there’s no reason to be surprised.
Just your typical Green Bay football fan. Always wanting to have it both ways. When the Vikings win now, it’s all about the past. . .when the Vikings are down now, it’s all about now.
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by Christopher Gates on Nov 21, 2010 9:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
In any case
At the risk of using stronger language than I might like, I’m through giving two shits what fans of any other team think of me personally or of my opinions or of how I run this website.
This frickin’ site isn’t for them, quite frankly. People think they can come over here and do their little victory dances when they beat the Vikings on the field. . .that shit is about to come to a screeching halt.
Do I have strong opinions on things? Yep, sure do. Am I a bit over the top sometimes? Guilty. Would I do anything differently if I could go back and do things over? Not a frickin’ chance. And if these jagoffs were so smart and so wonderful, they’d be running APC and not bitching about the big, mean, not nice guy that’s in charge of DN.
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by Christopher Gates on Nov 21, 2010 10:01 PM CST up reply actions
Bravo Chris got to love that Keep doing what your doing all the DN fans are right there with you SKOL!!!!
by cali viking on Nov 21, 2010 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
It's not like I haven't criticized you here too, sometimes in direct response to your comments in threads.
If you want to ban me, it’s your site. But do it for something I said on your site, not something I said somewhere else.
Also, while you’re ripping Packer fans, don’t forget that you’re doing it in response puddnhead’s egging, and puddn’s spent a great deal more of his life as a Packer fan than he has a Viking fan. What’s more pathetic? A guy who gets hacked off at an article you wrote over here saying the Bears were the best team in the division and vents somewhere else? Or the guy who goes and finds that content and points it out to you in the middle of a conversation where we agree on something? Especially when that guy happens to be the dude who switched fanbases when the heat was on 2 years ago, and who’s likely to do so again next training camp?
Later all. Looks like my time here is done, but that’s up to Chris, not puddnhead.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 21, 2010 11:05 PM CST up reply actions
That's fine
Whatever. Like I said, I’ve basically stopped caring.
If you want to spit on me and would rather do it from a distance, that’s okay. Most people would have the common courtesy to spit in the person’s face, but hey. . .that’s not everybody’s bag, and that’s fine.
It’s always beneficial to see people’s true colors.
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by Christopher Gates on Nov 22, 2010 1:11 AM CST up reply actions
I'd rather not spit on you at all, thanks.
But when you act like a tool, as you and many others do when they get caught up in their own emotional reaction, you shouldn’t be all that shocked when someone points it out. Puddn’s doing it to me right here in this thread by pointing out my bad behavior elsewhere.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 22, 2010 7:42 AM CST up reply actions
WTF would he ban you for? Why the F do you think I want you banned? I never said you (or anyone) should be banned. I swear, you guys are obsessed with being banned here at DN. That thread I linked is full of “ban ban ban ban blah blah ban ban ban.” From what I remember, you guys actually are bragging about how quickly some of you get yourselves banned. It’s almost like a badge of honor for you guys, you almost sound like you regret you haven’t been. How grown up. But, do whatever you want over there, that’s an issue between you and acme folks like cheeseancorn, who I see wrote this:
I’m getting annoyed by the constant fixation on that site in the posts and comments here. I’m totally fine with tweaking a bitter rival, but it’s been getting a little bit ridiculous in the past few weeks, especially since the Vikings are 3-6 and out of serious playoff contention. I guess I like this site better when it’s much more a Packers blog than an anti-Vikings blog.
But that’s his problem, not mine. I have, and will continue to, stay out of your discussions at Acme. And you aren’t a being a troll, here at DN. Just a two faced jerk that, once you find soft spots, likes to repeatedly, subtly, stick a knife in and twist it into one specific individual: me. You can keep doing if it gives you the jollies. Haters gotta hate. I have not called for your ban. All I am saying is, if you want to pretend over here that you aren’t trying to do it, you probably should not be bragging over there how you realize you do it, and how enjoyable it is. Kinda blows your "innocnet " cover over here, mate.
Ah, name calling.
Well, you sure showed me, huh?
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 22, 2010 7:37 AM CST up reply actions
ACtually I read his post twice and didn't see him calling you any names.
Seriously, he basically just stated that you talk a lot of trash about DN at APC. Some of it very derogatory that’s fine it’s what you do on your site, he’s just interested that you can flip faces so fast when you get over here.
Personally I kind of understand it you talk to your audience. Over at APC your audience, currently, is very anti Vikings, over here obviously not so much. Puddn is just calling you on it so that people who don’t see how you act on APC can temper their expectations of your posts.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
You can certainly
Consider my expectations tempered.
Like I said. . .just another normal, average, every day Packer fan.
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by Christopher Gates on Nov 22, 2010 9:41 AM CST up reply actions
Two faced jerk doesn't count then?
:)
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 22, 2010 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
Timing is everything....
… but I’m too lazy to go look at the timing of that particular comment, the multiple times I’ve been complimentary about the DN over at APC, and the exchange I had with Gates and others here relative to that thread at APC. That’s what it would take to defend myself and I’m just not that motivated to do it.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 22, 2010 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
I'll give him this
The jerk part is definitely calling him a name, I’ll confess.
The “two faced” part is just a statement of fact.
OK
I know how you feel, you know how I feel. And we each know the other one doesn’t care.
I’ll let you keep the last word on this. If you don’t consider that the last word because I posted this now, then get in a second last word. Whatever works for you.
Fine. (Last word! Ha!)
(My two-faced jerkiness aside, you know that’s funny.)
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 22, 2010 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
Pointless rant.
We are 3-7 and one step closer to an overhaul. I’m not jumping ship, I just don’t support the moves that the front office has made and I’m not going to compromise my principles simply because other people disagree with them. We have to agree to disagree here.
Tired of crying
Really? " We have to agree to disagree here"
So you resort to trash talking Cali? You have been here 2 weeks and start smack?
guess what -we have followed that policy long B4 you arrived. Teach us something we don’t know
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 7:18 PM CST up reply actions
When it comes to comments like your the gloves are off
We maintain respect and friendships. Two things you are not building here.
Trash talk is relative to the issue. don’t insult the person, discuss the issue and leave it.
You wanted to keep the smack and outdid yourself
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
seriously Citrus relax
let this guy go he’s ticked right now wait tell tomorrow to reply to him.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
PT Let there be peace. I will tell you why I am sensitive to some thinggs another time
YOU and I agree on one big thing and got our wish
CHILLY IS GONE!
Yessssssss!
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 22, 2010 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
Cool Jonny
Born in 57. remember the day I watched my 1st game. hang in there bro. Carry on the tradition for us old farts.
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
I even cheer for Asher Allen and Chris Cook.
I can totally understand why a fan of the Vikes doesn’t like or cheer for Favre. I don’t like him on my team. I didn’t want him on my team. He is the face if the enemy. How many years did you cuss as you watch #4 as he led the Packers to a win over the Vikes or laugh or cheer as he threw a pick and the Vikes secured a victory. Those feelings don’t just go away.
I know it’s a business. I know it is rare when a player stays on one team his whole career. But Favre isn’t just another player. He isn’t Ryan Longwell. He is the face of the Packers. He has a damn street named after him in our rivals home town.
When they signed him I was Pissed, The fact no one has the balls to do what is best for the long term growth of this team has me pissed as well. Whether you are a Farve fan or not, you need to ask your self honestly this question, What will allow my favorite team to win the Super Bowl as soon as possible? Is it leaving Favre starting with the same supporting cast hoping that they can regroup and salvage the 2010 season, (I think we are all in agreement he isn’t coming back next year) or is it figuring out if there is a QB on the roster that can win?
I guessing because I don’t know but at some point during the preseason Childress and Wilf agreed that Favre and not Jackson or Rosenfeld gave the Vikings the best chance to win the Big One. Now that the Super Bowl is out of the question they need to ask, Who is the best QB to lead the team to a win? Is it Farve? or someone else?
So what do I do? I cheer for my team. I cheer for the other 52 players, most of whom are working their butts off.
I will say this though I will look at the silver lining of this loss and hope Childress is released
I don’t think it’s being a poor fan to hope to improve your team by subtraction.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
Let me edit this.
Anyone that “cheers for their favorite team” to lose games isn’t a fan of that team at all.
Fixed.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Nov 21, 2010 6:29 PM CST up reply actions
Re: cheering for loss
Sorry, Chris, but, for once, I have to disagree with You. If it would get rid of that $@!%^* boneheaded excuse of a head coach, it WOULD be worth a loss.
Nah you cheer for them to win and hope if they lose it results in Childress getting tossed on his ass.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
Shit - I have tickets to the Vikes-Skins game
Was a great plan Thanksgiving weekend way back when I thought we’d have a great season…bought them the day we announced Randy was a Viking…remember all the promise and hope that news brought. What happened to the mojo or magic from then and last year. It was fun when we had it at the end of the Arizona game, But it’s been missing most of this season and not sure where to look to find it. I know everyone is calling for Childress’ head but I really think we’re nit-pickin at some systemic problems with this team. Yes it all starts with the coach, then the QB and then the rest of the critical posiitions. I see huge holes on offense and on defense. Special Team is about the brightest spot on this team….what a surprise but at least they seem to show up every game. Not sure what the anwer is but this one stings.
"Skol Vikings! Let's win this game Skol Vikings!
I wanted to fly up for that game
was planning on it but that changed the last 3 weeks :-(
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 10:11 PM CST up reply actions
Special Teams Didn't Show Up Against the Bears
…unless you mean short-bus special. Devin Hester had 150 return yards. Go ahead, kick to him again!
The true fans will come out
Favre (temporary Vikes fans) will be gone. For Pete’s sake stop with all the guarantee crap with BF.
The only guarantee I want is a Childress firing today.
Ya see. I’ll be cheering for Vikings wins despite the situation. Not for Favre record book or a low pick. I want to see this team get their motor going under Frazier and take it into OTA’s and camp,
The alternative is players leaving due to the lack of leadership by the head coach.
It could be worse
It could be next year with Chilli, TJoke and WEB
Viking fan for 40 years and this is the worst. Les Stekel 3-13 one year and a rookie coach.
Call TUNA or DUNGY today FIRE Chilly when one of them are on baord.
If we keep Chilli we will be the new Lions and AP will feel like Deon Sanders
Honestly this is worse than Stekel
At least he had the excuse of not having 9 pro bowlers on his team…
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
i really hope childress is gone
he has never been a good head coach
he ruined or superbowl chances last year
i will never forgive him
i pray he is done
by los vikingos on Nov 21, 2010 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
prayer?
I hope he is gone too, but I reserve prayer for important stuff like family, help, needs and lots of other things. I am a diehard fan, but it is just a game after all and does not merit being part of my prayer. Just like I would not pray to win a monopoly game or pick up game against any one. Nothing personal against Chilli, I just don’t thnik he is a good coach and has made rooting for the VIKES really hard.
I remember when Muhammad Ali.....
at 38 years old, was training for his fight against Larry Holmes. Everyone was saying, “Wow, he is down to 225, he hasn’t looked this good in years!” or “Wow, he has the speed back!” Then, he proceeded to get his ass kicked.
We are witnessing the same phenomenon with Favre. He looks great, gets himself into great shape (they were saying in the offseason that he put on 17 pounds AND his waist is smaller OR he is running the steps at a local stadium.) Unfortunately, none of that matters very much when stacked up against time itself. Vision, reflexes, reaction time do NOT improve, ever, for an athlete. Sorry Barry Bonds, you do not count.
I watched a documentary on ESPN about that last fight. It was very sad. This is kind of beyond the point, but wasn’t he taking diet pills or some other substance that was probably affecting him?
by packallday555 on Nov 21, 2010 4:45 PM CST up reply actions
"diuretics"...you mean he tried scientology?
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
No
He means he had low blood sugar.
Jeez, get a dictionary or something.
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by Christopher Gates on Nov 21, 2010 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
There was supposed to be a smiley there
Don’t know why the comment box ate the smiley. Damn it.
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by Christopher Gates on Nov 21, 2010 4:59 PM CST up reply actions
The 30 for 30
Best thing ESPN has done in a long time.
I don’t think diet pills had anything to do with it, but I’m pretty sure the documentary said that Ali was already in the beginning stages of Parkinson’s disease at that point.
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by Christopher Gates on Nov 21, 2010 4:49 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I loved that documentary. Yeah, I believe they did say something about Parkinson’s, which was why it was so damn sad to see him getting beaten to a pulp. He was so tough though, he just kept taking it and taking it.
by packallday555 on Nov 21, 2010 5:14 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, it's odd
but looking back, you could tell Ali was a little…off, but everyone wanted to believe that he had re-captured the magic from the late 60’s.
Few people remember that Ali fought a couple more times after that Holmes beating, too. It was sad, in a lot of ways, watching that Ali documentary, because not only did Ali get crushed, but larry ZHolmes was wrongly villified, in many ways, for just doing what he was supposed to do—beat an opponent.
And he went out of his way to try and not embarrass Ali, but there was little he could do. Ali was just done.
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No reason to throw in the towel..
Why? So we can get a better first round that could be a bust??
However, I would like to see some younger talent get in and get reps… Last year back-ups were in frequently.. Apparently, this year we haven’t had a chance to do that.
We started off great defensively even with Frazier saying that he thought we had a lot of talent and depth on our D. Than we started to trade some of it away… Same w/ CBs and what not as some of our players were getting hurt and we were finding ourselves short at those positions (I.e., Griffin, Cook, etc).
Team has quit
The firing of Childress has to happen. It will continue to get worst as long as he is the head coach. This team has quit. Need to make a change to Frazier and let him be the interim Head Coach to see if the players react any different than they did today. If not, then, at least, you know Frazier is not the answer. However, standing pat and continuing to make excuses is just unacceptable. Jerry Jones saw the writing on the wall and made the change. Now, the Cowboys have rolled off two wins.
by Tnshow_knoxville on Nov 21, 2010 4:39 PM CST reply actions
Interesting………..
It did look like the team quit a few times out there. Who was anonymous Viking that said the team wouldn’t quit like the Cowboys did, he’s a liar.
You do have a point. In the short and long term, there needs to be a change. The coaching philosophies aren’t working, the players aren’t responding and the team is lost to everyone that doesn’t work for the Viking Organization.
by Marcus.Grayson on Nov 21, 2010 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
agree
They also had someone to promote. WE don’t. Bevell and a Chilli shadow and the offense will stay the same the the defense has gotten worse not better. It will take an outside guy,. DUNGY , TUNA. Just hoping for guys that could evaluate and turn this thing around in a hurry
They have showed signs of packing it in for a few weeks now
I still point to the first Packer game as the sign that they were going to start giving up. It only takes one person and then manifests its way to the whole team.
by SeanInEauClaireWi on Nov 21, 2010 4:47 PM CST up reply actions
Couldn't have said it better myself Knoxville.
Let’s see if the team will respond for Frazier. Got nothing to lose now. Are only real chance was to beat Da Bears & the Pack . That ship has sailed, actually it think it was motorized. Throw Tjack in also, at least he can run. It will be for his life but he can run. We got 6 games to see who is going to make the effort. Cut Chilly’s head off now & we can axe the rest of the ones who don’t want to make an effort at seasons end. Just cut Berrian . No need to wait on that guy.
Tjack can play period yu guys are fools...Oline isnt that bad..Favre holds the ball to long trying to make the big play..we gave up 1 sack...
by Jonny Piff on Nov 21, 2010 4:40 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I don’t know. Jenkins and Raji were having a field day in the middle. The pocket seemed to collapse on Favre nearly every play.
by packallday555 on Nov 21, 2010 4:47 PM CST up reply actions
So we should keep the old slow QB in then, since there's no OL protection????????
by Marcus.Grayson on Nov 21, 2010 4:48 PM CST up reply actions
sure if you want Jackson running for his life on every play. We wont be throwing the ball
we will be running it on every play
by SeanInEauClaireWi on Nov 21, 2010 4:49 PM CST up reply actions
Im not saying i want him running for his life
but the ability to escape pressure and make things happen slows down the passrush AND helps the OLine.
by Marcus.Grayson on Nov 21, 2010 4:50 PM CST up reply actions
So let Tjack run. Favre's a stationary target. He's not going to run.
Let Jenkins & Raji chase Tjack around. I’ll bet after he busts a couple plays they won’t be so eager to just pin there ears back. Favre is done & the season is lost. Give Tarvaris his chance to prove or disprove what he can do.
Look at the Eagles
Not TJack is obviously not Vick, but the Eagles offense sure got better when he replaced Kolb. A mobile QB would seem to be a must with a crappy OLine.
I am going to say this, Capers has that defense playing nearly lights out
and it pains me to say it lmao.
by SeanInEauClaireWi on Nov 21, 2010 4:48 PM CST up reply actions
Really…..
it’s easy to play good D when you KNOW what the offense is going to do
by Marcus.Grayson on Nov 21, 2010 4:49 PM CST up reply actions
hey they have been doing this to other teams as well as of late.
As much as I hate saying it, but the defense is pretty good.
by SeanInEauClaireWi on Nov 21, 2010 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I hate them too much to give them respect.
I’m sticking with my story. They look good against us because Chilly is SO bad they knew what was going to be called
by Marcus.Grayson on Nov 21, 2010 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
I agree but,
10 points allowed in the last 3 games? Just as a fan of the sport i have to admit that is impressive. Begrudgingly.
by theamazingape on Nov 21, 2010 5:05 PM CST up reply actions
Jets, Vikings, and Cowboys
Subtract the Vikes for a moment and look at the amount of points that the Jets and the Cowboys have put up the last couple weeks.
by PackApologist on Nov 21, 2010 7:48 PM CST up reply actions
Hey PA there you are man hey congrats on the win you guys played a hell of a game!!!!! I wish it could of been us but Oh well congrats!!!
It's been a good day to savor
Thanks for the congrats Cali. It was a sweet game. Keep the faith gentlemen and keep you chins up, the team will get fixed….it’s all a matter of time.
by PackApologist on Nov 21, 2010 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
so many chances
We were allover there d until toby caughed it up…So many chances missed by bad throws…
by Jonny Piff on Nov 21, 2010 4:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah don't make Capers a Saint just yet.
Beating Detriot, Dallas, & pulling one out of the fire against the Cardinals being our only wins speaks volumes on just how far we have fallen.
Sorry, late to the party (did homework after my boy threw that pick)
First off, I am one of the biggest Favre apologists that there is. But I will officially go on record and say it is time. Time for Favre to pull the plug. I don’t like Jackson much, but I would rather see Jackson get whooped as he is younger and prove that the oline is a big problem. This team is quiting and it is only going to get uglier. I still will not blame everything on Favre as the whole team showed signs the last few weeks of packing it in. The coaches need to go, the oline needs to get revamped, and we need a qb of the future. Oh yeah, and that damn defense needs some work. But get off this shit that Favre is the true problem because if you say this, then you are about as blind as the BSPN crew. This goes much deeper than the quarterback play.
by SeanInEauClaireWi on Nov 21, 2010 4:43 PM CST reply actions
3 turnovers a game by starting Qb in the NFL is not gonna win games period..childress is bum for takinh Ap out of the game om 3rd down and redzone...
by Jonny Piff on Nov 21, 2010 4:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
and piss poor oline play will play a nice part in it. Your number one receiver not playing will play
a part in it. The coaching or lack thereof will play a part in it. Look, I am not saying Favre isn’t to blame. I am making that point quite clear when I said it is time for him to pull the plug. But it takes all 11 guys on offense to make the offense click. We are just not clicking
by SeanInEauClaireWi on Nov 21, 2010 4:55 PM CST up reply actions
Your'e right is is more than just QB play.
Teams rally around the QB though. Remember the Cardinals game when Bret was on fire. The defense all of a sudden showed up when the offense showed signs of hope. These are NFL players they know how to play. When you have confidence your leader can win you the game it’s amazing how every player on the offense & the defense has a little more spring in their step. The talent on this team didn’t just suddenly disappear. When the coach sucks & Favre throws 3 picks a game it’s not exactly a rallying cry. Some new leadership & QB that isn’t hurt & washed up will go a long way in getting this team turned around.
Jackson may or may not be the answer
But it doesn’t matter, because he’s not under contract after this year, either.
Once the calendar hits 1 March, if nothing changes, the only QB on this roster will be Joe Webb.
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by Christopher Gates on Nov 21, 2010 4:50 PM CST reply actions
On pace to break record for TO
Favre bad turnovers suck the life outta this team…Not to mention the lack of confidence in the coaches gameplan..
by Jonny Piff on Nov 21, 2010 4:53 PM CST via mobile reply actions
What gameplan????
Run right on first down
Throw slant on second down
take out AD and run a draw on third down
by Marcus.Grayson on Nov 21, 2010 4:54 PM CST up reply actions
I think I understand now....
the FULL context of Allen, Hutch and Longwell’s visit to Favre in August. We were told he was coming back for the guys in the locker room. That is the partial story. What they left out of the story was the part of the discussion which included, “We know you don’t like Chilly or want to play for him, but, guess what, neither do we!”
by Mel Allen on Nov 21, 2010 4:56 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Im done
Pointing fingers this team sucks in all phases, total meltdown…I will never not love the Vikes but they are bad right now…
by Jonny Piff on Nov 21, 2010 4:58 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Maybe Favre wants 1 more bad season
So he can come back again next year and play lights out ;)
J/k, I highly doubt that.. He is trying, just the luck factor is not w/ us today.
please fire childress now
leslie frazier deserves to be head coach
NAME one redeeming quality that childress has a head coach
he's one a hell of a chauffeur.
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by jethrophet on Nov 21, 2010 5:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I hope they're both heading south this time.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
A fan to the end
I’ve been a fan since I began watching at the age of 6 or so back in 1980. I went through the Steckel abortion (thank God I was too young to understnad how horrible that was at the time). I’ve cheered for the Vikes and listened to ***holes at work who constantly talk smack about the Vikes. I don’t care, they’re my team and they always will be.
I still stick by Favre as our quarterback. I still feel inept play at the o-line is more indicative of the failure of our offense than Favre is. I still feel Brett has made some mistakes, but I think we’re better with him than anyone else we have at QB. Brett still gives 110% every game, he leaves his heart on the field every game. I get frustrated at his mistakes, too. However, I think he is our best chance to win. I think a different coach with an open play book could do a lot with this (potentially) potent offense. Which brings me to…..
I still think Childress should be fired; when you have a team with the talent that this team has, it is the fault of the coach when they are not playing in sync. I believe that is what the problem is. If it is one player, you blame it on the player. When you have 10 pro bowl caliber players who are not laying it all out on the field, it is a coaching problem. There are very few players who are giving it all. Harvin, Peterson, and Favre lay it all out there every week. There are just too many who don’t seem to give a damn, and I think the head idiot err coach is to blame.
I’ll be in Minnesota for the Giants game on Dec 12, and I hope it is to watch a revived team with a different coach. I’m an Eli Manning fan, but I would love nothing more than to watch my Vikings run all over his team.
by B Rad on Nov 21, 2010 5:11 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
i hope they let frazier
get a crack at head coach. if not in minnesota then somewhere else.
Hm, trouble in Tennesee.
VY probably burned his bridges there…
Moss shipped to TENN,
VY shipped here?
Hm.
This notion about Favre..
I just dont get this notion that Favre gives us the best chance to win..Yeah maybe Favre from 1996..But in 2010..He is honestly one of the worst QBs I have seen start a game..
Seriously you think this gives us the best chance to win?
Team Passing Rushing Fumbles
G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Sck SckY Rate Att Yds Avg TD FUM Lost
9 9 180 289 62.3 2,066 7.1 10 16 18 116 72.2 10 -1 -0.1 0 6 5..
I wish I could find the stats on how many pick 6’s and turnovers directly cost the vikings points..Im sure the number would be staggering..
honestly
we’ve seen every game. at least one, if not more, of the multiple picks he throws, is on the receiver falling or tipping the ball up. I can think of at least 5 interceptions that were harvin’s (2) /peterson’s/lewis’s/berrian’s faults. so that numbers is inflated. not to say he’s been AMAZING this year, but he isn’t directly costing us points every turnover either..
3-13 or 4-12 ?
The only question that matters is will MR.WILF fire childress or does our coach finish out his contract extension.
Until this question is answered nothing else matters. All other talk is a waste of time.
LMFAO..Ok..
Today was the 1st game where his turnover didnt directly cost us points..
Yes it did
The turnover on the slant to Harvin at the end of the first half was turned into a touchdown.
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by Christopher Gates on Nov 21, 2010 5:49 PM CST up reply actions
Jonny
Stop with the name calling. You might call me a Grandpa here nd you have been on DN the better part of a couple weeks.
Calling people "fools’ as they don’t agree with you is not in our code of friendship. I got into it with a fellow fan and felt horrible. We ironed it out and that is the 1st and only time i will let myself get that upset.
I have said it B4. You are going to get tons of arguments ( I tended to agree with you) but you and I are not the end all on football. Stop with calling people fools.
We are all upset and kissing BF’s ass is not what I wanted. There was a point it was time to give T-jax his reps and time to see if we can evaluate a Frazier led team. See what he can do. No miracles but plug the leaks instead of a coach who is bailing water.
Careful how you treat folks. I love the guys here. I have had differences but will not allow my anger to linger with a brother here.
Take it easy. You don’t have all the answers or only opinion.
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 6:09 PM CST up reply actions
wow....
Im not sure how my length of membership here has anything to do with how poorly the team is coached and how bad the qb play has been..Im confused as to how a blanket statement “fools” could offend anyone..my statements should have no impact on anyone emotionally.My dedication to this team is never wavered..Fool is what might come to mind after reading some of these jaded posts.
by Jonny Piff on Nov 21, 2010 7:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Jonny dipshit
Length of membership means that many of us have stood with this team through the best of times and the worst of times – you obviously created this account to rub it in
hahah
This is funny so now my length of membership here is the same amount of time I’ve been a die hard vikings fan…yu sir need a dose of reality..your buddy got mad for me saying fools yu just took it up a notch..I make comments on teams play based knowledge not because some guy is my favorite player..I sure hope your posts here make you feel better..
by Jonny Piff on Nov 21, 2010 7:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Dill weed packers fan
You’ve been here for like a week – you obviously know nothing about my friends – and ya, posting here is a good way to vent so…
abba
So yu joined last nov I guess if anyone was suspect of jumping on the train..team was good then…I joined to talk about my beloved team when they are bad..Im sorry people don’t like the fact. I point out the negatives..
by Jonny Piff on Nov 21, 2010 7:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Lets end all this
Does this look like a packers fan…I understand you guys are upset and dont like new people who have different opinions then you..ITS ALL A GOOD I HOLD NO GRUDGES..
I can also post some with various other players jerseys if you like..
Thank You...
I apologize for being hypersensitive aswell..I got packers,bears,patriots,giants fans all talking in my ear not making life easy after a tough loss like this one today…But tuesday is a new week..
I got a jersey order going tomorrow
Listen Jonny. It may have been from lack of understanding. We have a code of friendship. We have nothing against new guys. Name calling is a no-no. If it was a general statement.taken out of context. it’s all cool.
Unlike PT down there who thinks taking shots at a disabled person is cival and warrents respect.
I visit camp each year and get special access. I’ll share some pics with ya.
Stay cool.
got lots of cool pics with favorite Vikes. last year harvin wanted me to take him fishing. We knew a mutual friend. Unfortunate as I had to fly out B4 camp was over.
Anyway. I sell jerseys to do volunteer work with disabled, kids camps and local charities. Taught my self to walk about some and use my time to give back to those less fortunate.
PT would like to volunteer pushing these kids out of their chair for laughs
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
You look good, who's the dude in the background? ;-)
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Nov 21, 2010 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
These losers attacked me in the same fashion.
What a joke, not every fan has the same point of view.
Tired of crying
I agree dude..
Just chill out though..Im not here to step on anyones feet…Im here to express my opinions and observations just like everyone else..Useless arguing is a waste of time..If you dont agree with my opinions give a respectful argument..I am open to other peoples opinions..But I make my observations on my base of knowledge acquired organized football up to a vary high level..Just relax all is not lost this season just realistic playoff hopes..I will still enjoy every game…
No Jonny
You explained a general statement that was mistaken. This guy went right to direct name calling. When I mentioned a disability he thought it “cute” to make light and make a comment that was so insensitive that most people here would beat the crap out of him. don’t pal up with this guy.
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
You can't spell
I thought you didn’t chastise others for that type of thing around here? The king of contradiction strikes again.
Tired of crying
Seriously people can we keep the discusion off of each other and on the team
or season, or coach, or weather for that matter.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
Give it up PT the only reason any of us got mad was because you said when BF was playing you wanted the vikes to lose thats that not against your point of veiw I dont give a shit if you dont like BF when you sid you wanted the vikes to lose thats when the heat started and now you took it to far making fun of Citrus so FK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks
I felt neglected there for a second PurpleTears – you’re probably a decent person in real life. Why the static here may I ask?
Well......
These guys freaked when I told them that I was happy about today’s loss because it will bring forth a new coaching system and quarterback. I’m not a real fan. That explains why I would be interested in discussing a team that is 3-7.
Tired of crying
Don't get me wrong
I understand the “means to a greater end” thing. . .honestly.
I just can’t bring myself to actively hope that this team loses. If they’re 3-7 now, I want them to finish 9-7. . .if they get to 3-12, I want them to finish 4-12.
I apologize if I was a little harsh with what I said about it earlier.
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by Christopher Gates on Nov 21, 2010 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
I also understand the optimism (or blind faith, if you will)
I just don’t think we have a realistic chance to make the playoffs this season with our current quarterback and coach. 9-7 is still possible but I don’t think the turnover machine will allow us to contend for a wildcard spot as long as he is holding a grudge against Chilly(and his injuries).
Tired of crying
The problem with hoping a team loses
And I’m not saying you are doing that. Is that it creates a loser mentality. It just does, sooner or later you get stuck in a spot that resembles Detroit more than Minnesota and I don’t think anyone wants that where you hope you get lucky and get that first round draft pick, or get a new coach or whatever. Instead you and the team need to beleive that you can shape your own destiny. By that I mean win enough to restore the teams identity. Win enough that players want to play for this ball club. Play hard enough that you still have the respect of other teams, players and fans. Once you stop doing any of that you lose not only games but yourself as well.
This monologe was brought to you by the letter purple.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
I said you weren't a fan? Copy and paste it
I agreed with you on the coaching and we need a new direction made now! I thought it was time to go with Jax (Webb if we could have) in the 3rd qtr.!
i simply told you of our code of conduct and you wouldn’t let it go. But you take a remark about a persons disability and make some insane comment in response.
You kept the argument up and instead of owning up to it you are blaming me in the light of me quoting your comments to people.
There was nothing I bashed you on in your statements on the status of the team and agreed on most of them.
We have a code. one you quoted “agree to disagree” but did not follow it. We also have a rule on not name calling. You don’t own the error and continue attacking Cali. You don’t apologize but belittle a persons disability.
Seriously. do you have a reality problem.
An out and out apology to Cali would have sufficed and then discussed your points. You will notice I disagreed with Cali on an issue we agreed on but did not say he was stupid.
The man is a former QB and i am a former coach. We disagree on things but remain cival and friends in the process. that is how it is with most of us here.
Anyone can look at the history of this thread and see it
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
And Citrus hell I dont know if I would ever disagree with you man you have a football smart mind almost if not all the time I read in to what you are saying and agree 100% so keep up the good fight brother!!!!
Go ahead disagree
I will disagree or add a comment/solution idea. doesn’t mean I know it all.
One thing I hope most of us agree on -Is anyone else watching the sports wires just to see if Chilly has been fired yet.
I can’t take it. We need to change direction
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
Citrus, you seem to be taking this personal.
That’s the difference between us right now, just chill out and everything will be fine.
Tired of crying
You forgot about Favre and The Chillster
Tired of crying
by PurpleTears on Nov 21, 2010 8:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Again???
You are out of reality. I told you how to think? I actually said i agreed on some of your points. I said resorting to name calling because someone had a differing opinion.
I will tell you that and anyone who goes that far. We are not a place to have that type of discussion. Instead of owning it and accepting that as part of our code, you have to defend and escalate your lack of sensitivity.
Want a spelling contest. We can do that. Might be a little hard without your spell check tho.
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 8:50 PM CST up reply actions
Already
Pulling for them to win the division.
Nothing beyond that, though.
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by Christopher Gates on Nov 21, 2010 5:58 PM CST up reply actions
Bears?
I would never root for them. The Packers are better at every position except for Forte, Peppers and Urlacher.
FUCK the bears
I got my tix for Dec 20 on MNF. I’ll be there loud and proud. Fuck the bears!
"Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthend, ambition inspired, and success achieved."
-Helen Keller
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Was hoping we could meet at camp but so happy you get to go. I have a gift for you. Drop a line so I can mail it
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 22, 2010 12:24 AM CST up reply actions
I emailed you today Citrus
"Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthend, ambition inspired, and success achieved."
-Helen Keller
I always root for vikings not matter w/l record..
by Jonny Piff on Nov 21, 2010 7:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
BF salutes previous team
Caught a little of the BF talk after the game. He compiliment the Packer organization, siad they were well coached (something he has never said about Chillli) and a few other tnice things about them. Quick Chilli, put him on waivers quick quick. It could be the last act you do as a coach. - How hard are Randy Moss and the Patriats laughing at us now?
DUNGY DUNGY DUNGY — OR TUNA — OR BOTH
WE need someone of that calaber to come in and challange, change and evaluate this team coaches players and organization during this seasion to make better decision in the off season.
He just wants the Packers to retire his jersey
Not like that’s going to happen with Thompson as GM.
Chilli does not know
Chilli said last week (or 2 weeks ago) he would not know what it means to lose a locker room. Chilli EXHIBIT A YOURS
TICE vs CHIILI
Players sad to see TICE go. I imagine a good number of them.
Players sad to see CHILLI go. - 2 - TJ and Bernard B
Incredible
How do you do screw a championship team up this badly? Seriously. How do you take a team that even the NFL acknowledges should have been in the Big Dance last year, a team with 12 Pro Bowlers, and turn them to absolute crap in less than a year? Unreal.
I begin to think that the Vikings would probably play better with no coach at all, than what they’re doing under Childress. He can’t be let go fast enough for me. Along with Berrian. Start the rebuild NOW, dump the jokers out of the deck and draw some new cards.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
Chilly took lessons from Ray Rhodes
Who singlehandedly destroyed a playoff team in GB after Holmgren moved to Seattle.
It is definitely coaching.
Remember the first quarter? Vikings offense had some good momentum. The Packer O was abysmal. What happened after that?
I believe that the coaching (and players) adjusted.
I believe Toby fumbled...
Team died after that…Just like alot of other games this year..TO and we give up…
by Jonny Piff on Nov 21, 2010 7:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Berrian?
He must have been injured. Hangnail, perhaps?
I hate to say it
The way this team played and how they gave up has shown me that the majority of this team has no honor and is well deserving of being called the VIQUEENS. Until they show me effort, passion, determination, and a mentality to never give up. They are from this day forward the Minnesota VIQUEENS.
how am I lame?
the majority of this team looked like a bunch of quitters and losers. I can only name about 14, maybe 15 players that actually looked like vikings. the rest are a bunch of queens in my opinion.
Nowwe have another member of the "insensitivity club"
Sic’em Jonny. This is where the loyalty people show their stripes.
Where are these people coming from?
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
On the Bright Side...
Some of you weren’t actually inside the Metrodome to witness the carnage in person, and I doubt very much there was anyone else paying $180 for 18th row upper deck seats.
So there’s that…right?
Jonny
How were the fans responding. Were ther chants for Chillys head? I had to watch at a sports pub. Too noisy to hear.
Fill me in
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
Although I dont sit iun the upper deck..
The “Fire Childress” chants were louder then most cheers after touchdowns this year..hahah
9 and 7 here we come!!
So Favre will start the next game, and only play one quarter. TJ comes in and runs the ball mad!
The O Line decides tonight to give up the midnight pizza joint visits, and actually moves their asses.
Berrian never suits up for the vikes again,
AND AP keeps on truckin, like he’s been doing all season.
Viking FOREVER!!
Win or lose VIKES FOREVER!
the fat lady is putting on her dress
It’s over folks! Whenever you see Vikings players laughing on the sidelines despite getting their butts kicked, it’s over. They have not only quit on their coach, the’ve quit on themselves. Clearly, this team is dysfunctional and it starts atthe top with Childress right on down. If I was head coach, I’d tell Bret Fvre to get comfortable and find a seat on the bench cause that’s where you’re going for the rest of the year. Frankly, I would have told Favre that after the Bear game. And now……Favre goes off on his offensive co-ordinator. He really needs to look in the mirror for why they are where they are. The Vikings to a shot at it with “begging” favre to come back and now it’s come back to bite them. Overall, there’s not one part of the offense or defense that anyone can brag about with the exception of Percy Harvin and AP.
Memo to Chilly or whoever might be coach next game: It’s over, give your subs the chance to market themselves by playing them and give the first teamers a breather.
by jjlovesfootball on Nov 21, 2010 9:10 PM CST reply actions
Completely agree
It is time for some of the veterans to take a back seat. When you can not make the playoffs which this team is not going to do, the next best thing to do is to begin to build depth for next year. Look for ways to strengthen the team in areas that it needs to be strengthen in.
by Tnshow_knoxville on Nov 21, 2010 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
Lots of...
Reading some of this I could snap…First of all the Vikes rock! 50 years of history and some dam good entertainment. For those jumpin on Citrus and Cali piss off. Statements
like I hope they lose when ever BF is quarterbacking. The Vikes are what they are this year..and simply a struggling team. But they rock no matter. VIKES FOREVER!!!
@}-----You've been Touched-----{@
There's no reason we can't compete next year
New coach, QB, and a whole bunch more to put it succinctly. We’ll be alright.
Yea I agree abba but im stupid I still have hope for this year its because this team is so damn good but yet we fail I just dont get it!!!!!
Trying to refuel the fire
I’ve actually enjoyed your comments here today for some reason – and 3-7 is better than 0-10 so ha! (not all that funny was it) Take care and quit picking on the older crowd already!
The difference is...
The older crowd is desperate and they need the team to be successful NOW, while I can patiently wait until we put together a championship caliber team with championship caliber DEFENSE. Our secondary is just pitiful./
Tired of crying
by PurpleTears on Nov 21, 2010 10:18 PM CST up reply actions
I'm past my half century mark
I have seen it all. All but the Title. Sure i want it now. I have had 50 years of NOW.
This was the year i thought I would see it
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
This current team wasn't built to last in the first place.
We had our chance last year and Favre literally threw it all away.
Tired of crying
by PurpleTears on Nov 21, 2010 10:24 PM CST up reply actions
It's hard to place all of the blame on him due to all of the missed opportunities by way of numerous fumbles.
But we were in a position to win the game and he crashed and left us with airbags in our faces.
Tired of crying
by PurpleTears on Nov 21, 2010 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
ACtually if you look at the current team you have a couple of key spots that will need to be shored
But nothing that is completely out of hand. You still have the ability to trade a couiple of players out as well, and for gods sake cut a couple that are pure trash. I personally woudl look to trade Allen in the off season. We have a strong DE line up and we could maybe pick up a #1 draft pick for him next year. At least look at teh Eagles and consider trading him for Kolb and a #5. Pat has to go but we have a couple of people behind him that are showing up. Henderson has Brinkly who I believe will be a stellar middle line backer. Leber has Erin who isn’t great but is capable. On offense we need to work on our O line. If we pick up Kolb for Allen I would use the #3 pick on a left tackle our #2 pick on a left guard then work both of them into the line up next year with the idea of replacing McKinney and Hutch in 2012. No I think people who are flipping out over the age of our team are truly just flipping out. Our main concern as always will be our QB position, second biggest concern is our line.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
This is true
So is our offensive line, our defensive line, I rather like our linebackers, but we need to upgrade in almost every area. Favre in a HOF quarterback but he’s done after this year – not sure who to try and draft and don’t know who’s on the market for sure.
How many times have our Safties been torched for long passes this season?
It seems like we give up huge momentum plays at least once per game.
Tired of crying
by PurpleTears on Nov 21, 2010 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
Our Secondary has been pretty weak for years
I remember the days of Paul Krause and Joey Browner – ah the good old days – I’m not that old either. Winfield is the only solid one now I think.
Good old days......
Paul Krause, Bobby Bryant, Nate Wright, Jeff Bryant. They did their jobs day in and day out, without any bs. AND were paid a pittance compared to the spoiled fking, posse needing athletes of today. You know what? I was prouder of the four Viking teams that LOST Super Bowls than I am of this bunch. I know, I know, it starts with Chillz. I rued the day Metropolitan Stadium was replaced by the current incubator for softness known as the Mall of America Metrodome or whatever the hell it is called. Bud Grant didn’t allow warming devices on the bench during games. Today, we have controversies surrounding catered fking lunches during practices. Eh.
Browner? The man could lay you out, nearly as effective as Ronnie Lott. Today? Fking hands of stone DBs who spend more time spinning in circles than tackling, notwithstanding Antoine.
I want more throwback players on the Vikings, not the type of player who spends time looking for a fking diamond that fell out of his earring during the game (Dez Bryant last week.)
Throwbacks- Favre, Peterson, Winfield, Phat Pat, Greenway, EJ, Hutch,
Farwell. Not sure about Jared Allen, he needs to take the game more seriously, in my opinion.
I agree Mel
This team has been catered to the basement – My memories of Browner – besides his elbow pads, he was the real deal. He could smoke you alright, but it seems that he was always at the foot of the play, ready to make the tackle no matter what – he might let one of linebackers or whoever make they play, but it they didn’t (BOOM) there he was. You’re right we need that type of player! I always enjoy your comments.
Thanks abba......
just venting. Been hanging with the Vikings a long time. Damn sure not jumping EVER. I forgot to mention Bill Brown, Wally Hilgenberg, Ron Yary, Ed White…..damn, they were pros.
This player, that player, whatever.....
it is not just about “Pro Bowl caliber” players either. We know where that has gotten this team. Heart, professionalism, courage, sound work ethics, and an understanding of “team” will carry you to the promised land. Recent evidence? Look at the Patriots organization, from top to bottom. THAT is what the Vikings used to be, minus the obvious championships.
We need to draft a good rt guard and a top OT
Used to ber we cried about corners. Now it is safety’s. I still think there are some UFL sleepers to bring to camp. They have more high level O-line players this year. ya gotta try anything to find one guy that can save a pick.
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
Who the fuck siad it was PT dont you have another team to watch one that does not have favre as the QB one that you would want to win the game bye nuff said no more with you !!!!!!!!!!!!!
by cali viking on Nov 21, 2010 10:13 PM CST up reply actions
Vikings are my team.
Favre is going to be gone soon enough, I’m more excited about our future than ever. You can cry on Citrus’ shoulder while I cheer my team on.
Tired of crying
by PurpleTears on Nov 21, 2010 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
No they are not because if THEY WERE WOULD WANT THEM TO WIN AT ANY COST GET IT YOU FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!
by cali viking on Nov 21, 2010 10:17 PM CST up reply actions
Right, and we can't win with Favre and Childress
So I want them gone, get it?
Tired of crying
by PurpleTears on Nov 21, 2010 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
I give up PT all I know is I want this team to win and I dont give a fuck who the QB is I will never say I want them to lose do you get it I hope so because this is fffn dumb!!!!
by cali viking on Nov 21, 2010 10:32 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know Cali
Seems the team rather just gave up this year. I’m not sure if it was because of Childress, a slow start, or what. But it’ll get better. It practically has to – wait and see.
Abba
it ultimately falls on chilly. You have a group of guys coming out of the huddle with one guy making the clap. Uninspired.
Blame Leslie’s D ? They have been seeing their efforts keep us in the game only to see nothing happen on O. They have lost the swagger.. It is a virus hitting every part of the team.
that is why i say try Frazier NOW. We have nothing to lose but gain an idea of whether he can lead and inspire the team. We find out if it is morale of many or few and weed them out.
We wait and make a coaching change error and we are stuck. We can learn right now idf leslie is the guy on an interim basisi. Sign him if a change is seen. Not playoffs but a change in attitude. If we continue to suck, we know we may have to interview more candidates
by CitrusFLViking on Nov 21, 2010 10:29 PM CST reply actions
The moral of this story is...
Don’t wrap your life line around your neck. Brad Childress was in deep shit after it became obvious that Tarvaris Jackson simply wasn’t starter material. Jackson simply doesn’t think on his feet fast enough to do progressions as he moves in the pocket. His arm isn’t accurate enough to hit receivers in-stride.
Desperate to buy time, Childress brought in the old gun slinger, Brett Favre. It worked for one glorious year because everything fell into place. The O-Line was relatively healthy. The receivers were relatively healthy. Favre was only 40. They had Peterson and Chester Taylor. The defense was stopping the run and racking up sacks.
This year, it has all gone to hell. Favre started the year hobbled, and it got worse. Sydney Rice hasn’t played all year, and now that he’s back, he’s playing at about 75 percent. Bernard Berrian effectively retired last year, but he still gets paychecks.
Worst of all, Brad Childress is revealing his extreme limitations as a coach. When you look at the personnel of this team, I am amazed how much talent they have, and how badly they’re wasting it. I am mortified at how predictable the offensive play calling has become, especially in the red zone. I am disgusted at the lack of inventiveness of the defensive schemes, the refusal to simply blitz more, or at least try some more interesting stunts. Spin moves, swim moves, delayed blitzes – I’m not seeing much of any of that. Mostly I’m seeing a straight push, easily blocked. The line coaches simply can’t be this stupid. This stuff has to be coming from the head coach.
You know when you see the real value of an NFL head coach? It’s not when everything is going right, like last year. It’s when things go wrong, like this year. It’s when a coach has to patch together something, anything that works and wins. Brad Childress has the parts to make a winning football team, but he won’t use them. He doesn’t appear capable of adapting his scheme to take advantage of the talent at his disposal. Instead, he continues to try to win with old Brett Favre, trying to repeat what happened last year.
All this makes me wonder about Tarvaris Jackson. Maybe it’s not TJ’s fault that he doesn’t win in Brad Childress’ scheme. Maybe the scheme doesn’t fit Jackson’s natural style, which is run and gun.
Vikings fans aren’t going to see Tarvaris Jackson in a run and gun offense. Childress can’t change things that much. He’s not capable of adapting his scheme to different players. That includes Brett Favre, a great drop back passer who knows how to call his own plays, but isn’t allowed to, because Brad Childress wants to run Adrian Peterson over right tackle on every fucking first down.
Well, the result of Chili’s incompetence is losing. At 3 and 7, his life line, Brett Favre, is wrapped around Brad’s scrawny neck, and his career is being choked out by his own insecurities. If Brad Childress thinks that pursuing Favre’s 300 straight starts (instead of winning games) will please Ziggy Wilf, then he has another thing coming: a pink slip.
Chilly sold his soul to Brett
and he ain’t gettin’ it back.
If he has any self-respect he’ll play TJack the rest of the season for the good of the organization so we can see what we have.
put a body on 'em
The organization and entire city
sold their souls to Brett.It was a grand experiment that has ended in complete failure.
The experiment almost worked last year with Favre having the best year of his career at age 40. The crime was in trying to build upon that by bringing him back this year after he got the snot knocked out of him in the NO game. That should have ended the experiment but hubris on both BF and the Vikes parts overcame what was obvious to less impassioned observers. Chilly may be the scapegoat, but the fate of this season was determined when three players traveled to Louisiana to woo the ageless wonder. That sealed the deal, just not in the way it was intended.
by horace clark on Nov 22, 2010 9:20 AM CST up reply actions
Or is it
Mississippi? Can never remember which backwater he hails from.
Viking fans
After reading your posts on your team for the better part of a month all I can say is,
This is what it sounds like:
When doves cry
When doves cry (Doves cry, doves cry)
When doves cry (Doves cry, doves cry)
Don’t Cry (Don’t Cry)
When doves cry
When doves cry
When doves cry
When Doves cry (Doves cry, doves cry, doves cry
Don’t cry
Darling don’t cry
Don’t cry
Don’t cry
Don’t don’t cry
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