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Brad Childress Fired, The Day After

Well, ladies and gentlemen, it's been another fine 24 hours in Viking land, as we've already gotten our requisite drama for the week out of the way. The firing of Brad Childress, regardless of what you think of the timing, is basically the final cherry on what will certainly go down as one of the most spectacularly failed seasons in the 50-year history of the Minnesota Vikings franchise.

Many of us, myself included, believed that 2010 could be an amazing season for this Minnesota Viking team. Basically, we were getting the band back together, the talent was in place, and the Minnesota Vikings were going to capitalize on the success of 2009. Instead, what we got was a combination of drama, disarray, decline, and desperation the likes of which I don't believe any NFL team has ever had to overcome simultaneously.

From Sidney Rice not getting his injured hip taken care of in January when he got hurt to the precipitous decline of Brett Favre to the entire Randy Moss debacle and getting pummeled in embarrassing fashion by your two biggest rivals in consecutive weeks, I find it hard to believe that any 3-7 team in the history of the National Football League has managed to hold on to the headlines the way the 2010 Minnesota Vikings have. A season that started with a ton of promise and potential has now been reduced to a team playing for an interim head coach and gunning for draft position rather than making a push at the post-season.

Since Zygi Wilf couldn't fire all the players or anything like that, the axe came down on the one guy that could most easily stick his neck on the chopping block, and that was head coach Brad Childress. Now, let me make one thing perfectly clear. . .neither I, nor anybody else, would wish ill on Childress the person or anything like that. He might even be an interesting guy to sit down and have a beer with and just yak about football for a while, and the guy has a son over in Afghanistan with the Marine Corps, which garners a ton of respect from me. He's also a pretty decent evaluator of talent. . .the cupboard here in Minnesota isn't exactly bare or anything as far as talent is concerned. But, in the end, there were a few different things that brought about the fall of the house of Chilly.

Star-divide

When Brad Childress first took the job with the Minnesota Vikings after the 2005 season ended with the firing of Mike Tice, he talked about a "culture of accountability." This was a team coming off of a few years of incidents like the Whizzinator, the Love Boat, and E.J. Henderson (along with two other people) getting in a fight outside of a club in Minneapolis. At first, it seemed like a really good idea, too. . .in Childress' first pre-season with the Vikings, WR Koren Robinson, a multiple DUI offender and a player that had gone to the Pro Bowl as a kick returner not six months previous, got caught drunkenly whipping down Minnesota highways at nearly 100 miles an hour in an effort to get back to the Vikings' facilities before curfew. Childress had said that the players were going to be held accountable, and sure enough Robinson was out of a job within a week. It was, even in retrospect, a good move by Brad Childress, and it sent a message to the players that off-field garbage wouldn't be tolerated. For the most part, there really haven't been any serious off the field issues since Brad Childress took over, and that's something he deserves to be complimented on.

But that same level of accountability obviously did not extend onto the field, as we've seen. The contrast in this can be seen in the Vikings' two most prominent offensive players, quarterback Brett Favre and running back Adrian Peterson. We've seen, in the past, where Adrian Peterson has fumbled and been replaced for long stretches of time by Chester Taylor as a sort of discipline. However, the "culture of accountability" was never extended to Brett Favre, whether it was showing up for training camp or being held accountable for interceptions and turning the ball over. Yes, Favre is a legend and everything and gave us a truly memorable, magical season in 2009 that none of us will be forgetting any time soon. But, ultimately, Brad Childress fell victim to the same thing as coaches like Mike Sherman and Eric Mangini fell victim to prior to him. . .an unwillingness to hold Brett Favre to the same standards for production as the rest of the players on his roster. Honestly, how many times this year should #4, realistically, have been pulled from ball games?

Here's another question. . .if I would have told you going into the season that, after 10 games, Adrian Peterson would have 242 total touches, nearly 1300 yards, eight touchdowns and zero fumbles, you probably would have believed that, right? Now, what if I had told you that through ten games, Peterson would have zero fumbles. . .and the Minnesota Vikings would still lead the NFL in turnovers and have the worst turnover differential in the NFL? Yeah, you would have slapped me upside the head and said I was crazy. . .but, yet, that's where we are right now. Of Minnesota's 25 turnovers, Favre has been credited with 22, Toby Gerhart somehow has two (despite only touching the football 37 times), and Percy Harvin has one.

Could this season have gone differently. . .and by "differently," I mean "better". . .if the Vikings hadn't sent the three wise guys to Mississippi to pull Favre off of the porch and bring him back here? Would starting Tarvaris Jackson at quarterback in 2010 have allowed this team to fulfill some of the promise they started the season with? Well, before you jump on the "no way, Tarvaris Jackson sucks and has always sucked and will always suck" bandwagon that so many seem to occupy, ponder this for a moment.

This season, in 327 pass attempts, Brett Favre has thrown the ball to the other team 17 times. That's one interception every 19.2 pass attempts. Tarvaris Jackson, in 551 career pass attempts, has thrown 18 interceptions, which averages to one pick thrown every 30.6 attempts. Even if you take out the "garbage time" numbers that he may have racked up in 2009 and the one appearance he made in 2010, you still get 18 interceptions in 524 pass attempts, which is one for every 29.1 throws.

Is Tarvaris Jackson ever going to be Peyton Manning or Tom Brady? Probably not. But Jackson, for the most part, seems to realize this, and seems to know his limitations. Brett Favre's biggest problem this season is that he thinks he's Brett Favre.

Do I think this team is 3-7 with Tarvaris Jackson at quarterback this season? Probably not. But even if we play Jackson at this point, it really won't matter, to be honest. Why? Because he's not under contract for next season, either. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, if nothing changes between now and 1 March, the only quarterback on the Minnesota Vikings' roster will be young Joe Webb. He was our sixth-round pick out of Alabama-Birmingham in this past year's draft, and was originally thought of so highly as a quarterback by the Vikings that, on draft day, it was immediately declared that the team was moving him to wide receiver. When Brad Childress said that the Vikings were going "all in" on the 2010 season, he meant it. . .and the incredible lack of foresight in roster planning is going to, in all likelihood, make the next couple of seasons pretty tough ones for us in Minnesota.

Ultimately, Brad Childress' stubbornness, inflexibility, and unwillingness to adjust his scheme to his team's talent, along with his various standards for one particular player and his amazing short-sightedness in assembling the Vikings' roster, led to his downfall in Minnesota. He got one incredible season out of Brett Favre with those standards, and thought that he could get away with a second, but he could not.

I, personally, wish Coach Childress the best of luck in his career after the Minnesota Vikings, regardless of what path that career takes. Lord knows that, thanks to the extension he signed last year, he's getting a decent amount of change from Zygi Wilf to chill out and do nothing, if he so chooses. But his time in Minnesota had run its course, and the Vikings had to take a new direction.

Brad Childress has been the only coach in Minnesota since this website came online back in July of 2006. Heck, the first two weeks of the site or so were devoted to talking about the aforementioned incident with Koren Robinson. While this season has been a disappointment, I'm also excited to see what direction this franchise takes from here. We're more than likely going to be drafting us one of those hot-shot, young, "franchise quarterbacks" that all the kids are raving on about today, and teaming him up with the best running back in football in Adrian Peterson, one of the most dynamic players in the game in Percy Harvin, and hopefully a reasonably-priced Sidney Rice will be along for the ride as well.

No fair jumping off of the bandwagon now, folks. . .we're not going into a ditch or anything, we're just pulling over at the nearest 7-11 for cherry Slurpees and Slim Jims. Here's hoping that all of you stay along for the ride.

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Nice recap

The ‘all in’ move worked in 2009, and it didn’t in 2010.

Live and learn…and hope we have a serviceable QB in 2011. If there is a 2011…

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by Ted Glover on Nov 23, 2010 1:24 PM CST reply actions  

I can tell you I’m just about excited for this weeks game as if it was week 1. We may not make the playoffs, but I’m much calmer with Chilly gone.

by skipfreely on Nov 23, 2010 1:25 PM CST reply actions  

+1

That’s the the way to think!!!!!

by NCviking on Nov 23, 2010 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Elgar has a point

And the flying monkeys would be our lame blocking system for the oline, Poor schemes that don’t support the Oline with TE’s or Fullbacks and poor play calling that doesn’t stop the opponents defense from playing whack a mole on the QB all day with no risk of a Draw or a screen.

Or a defense that has been held back from blitzing because Childress didn’t think it was a safe enough gamble.

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Nov 24, 2010 8:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Nice article...

but Jackson is not our answer long term…. (or short term)
and the reason his INT stats look good is that he rarely throws the ball near a receivers or defenders hands.
knees or lower where only god knows who can catch it.

There’s still a lot of football to watch and who knows… an 8-8 team could still make a long shot for the playoffs this year.

I truly hope that Chilly was the problem on the sidelines, in the locker room, and in the hearts/minds of the team.
May his departure open up the playbook… may we become a risk-taking, go for the throat, take no prisoners…
Beserker-like team!! and if not that… well, let’s see some decent football played.

GO VIKES!!

I BELIEVE...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Nov 23, 2010 1:32 PM CST reply actions  

…at least Jackson came in this year, went through training camp, and when the bell rang, he actually came onto the field, ran those plays given to him, scored with his two of his first throws, had no picks…

…Favre probably mistook him for Aaron Rodgers or Rick Sanchez and decided to rack up some more injuries so the regularly scheduled drama could continue…

…if there’s anything in the playbook that requires lousy blocking, makes an asset out of fumbling the football, or calls for receiving legends to play only on plays when they want to play so it won’t cut into their other careers, like team food critic, I guess I’m quite glad Childress was fired…

by Elgar on Nov 23, 2010 6:33 PM CST up reply actions  

At least your not bitter.

:)

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Nov 24, 2010 8:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Great article CG

I’m onboard for the ride, especially for the Slurpees. I think the hardest part for any of us fans will be that dreaded “R” word. We will be “Rebuilding” for the next few years and we might as well start now.
Let Beville have fun with the offence and let TJax start. Lets go play the spoiler role and enjoy what we can from the rest of this season.
No place left to go but up!

by midnightwonder on Nov 23, 2010 1:33 PM CST reply actions  

Are we going into rebuilding mode?

If we go grab a veteran QB (McNabb), I would say we are right back into playoff contention.

If we choose to draft and build around a rookie QB, then it might be tough to be a contender. We have to draft at O-line, probably a RG. Even if we re-sign Greenway (a MUST!) we should probably draft at linebacker. And, depending on how Abdullah progresses, drafting a tackling safety would be a good idea as well.

by StuckInCA on Nov 23, 2010 1:42 PM CST reply actions  

McNabb signed an extension with the 'skins

So unless you mean trade for one… I think I’d rather draft one. McElroy will be available in the 2nd round. We need to improve the trenches in the 1st round. This year the Dline prospects are deep, not so much on the offensive side of the ball.

Now if Andrew Luck drops to us when we pick at number 15 (we’re finishing at 8-8) then we have to take him. Otherwise lets wait for McElroy.

"Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthend, ambition inspired, and success achieved."
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by NMVike on Nov 23, 2010 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Or Just grab Ryan Mallet

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by UnBannedVikingholic on Nov 23, 2010 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

an extension

that doesn’t mean he’s locked there if they want to throw him away when they realize he isn’t worth all that money :P

by loldotcom on Nov 23, 2010 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Redskins can cut McNabb cheap

I think if they cut him this year then they only pay him 7.5 mil.
i would not be surprised to see him go as he has not really done well there. I haven’t watched too many Redskins games this year, but I’m assuming he’d do better with Percy, Sid, and Randy (if he signs here, a longshot, but I’ve seen crazier things coming from this team this year).

I agree, draft o-line in the first if he’s bpa or close to it.

by StuckInCA on Nov 23, 2010 5:23 PM CST up reply actions  

McElroy will also be there in the 4th. And probably even after than that. Another John David Booty.

by Josh_D on Nov 23, 2010 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

McElroy will be much better than Booty

"Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthend, ambition inspired, and success achieved."
-Helen Keller

by NMVike on Nov 24, 2010 8:57 AM CST up reply actions  

We shall see, but I doubt he’ll ever be more than a decent back-up option. In high school, he was on a team that was equivalent to a college team at the high school level. In college, he is on a NFL team at the college level. When he gets to the NFL where everyone is on the same playing field talent wise he won’t be the winning the game with his arm (i.e. like the top 1/4 of the currently in the NFL QB class might). Chase Daniels might be a better example since they both went to the same high school, played on great college teams, but aren’t that great individually.

by Josh_D on Nov 24, 2010 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

South Lake Carroll is not even the best high school team in Texas

I understand you were overstating things to make your point.

But I’ll say this, I’ll take a kid like McElroy who might not have all the physical tools in the world but is someone who knows how to win over a guy like Jay Cutler or Jake Locker that are just the opposite.

"Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthend, ambition inspired, and success achieved."
-Helen Keller

by NMVike on Nov 24, 2010 4:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Never claimed that SLC was “the best team in Texas”, but they are a football factory that continuously sends players to the D-1 level. Few high schools have that kind of talent year in and year out, even in Texas and that goes a long way in helping McElroy being able to claim that he’s never lost a high school game as though he were somehow doing it on his own.
How exactly does he “know how to win”? If he had gone to say Washington (since you brought up Locker) do you honestly believe he would still have lost only two games in his career? Would they still be calling him a winner if he were playing for Vanderbilt? No, because he isn’t a QB who can take games into his own hands and win. He is a game manager at best. McElroy is a product of a good system and the great talent around him. Winning in college does not translate to winning in the NFL and a prospects win/lose record is no way to base projections to the next level.
And just so its clear, I am not shitting on him just to shit on him. The Vikings are desperate for a great talent at the quarterback position. Waiting for the right QB to develop from later rounds is not something that should be acceptable and most likely wont with a new coaching staff most likely coming in at the end of the season. They have tried the slow, develop a QB approach for a while now (See Jackson, Booty, Webb, and every other QB drafted since taking Culpepper all those years ago) and its hasn’t panned out. Now with only one QB guaranteed to be on the team next year (and that QB may just end up at a different position once the new staff is in place) there is no time to wait for a guy because “he won in college”. The Vikings needs to identify who they think is the best QB in this draft and swing whatever it takes to get him. I don’t care if they don’t end up with any other picks if it guarantees them the top QB prospect.

by Josh_D on Nov 24, 2010 8:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Have you watched him play at all at Alabama?

The guy can play some football. And yes I do believe he would have won games at Washington or Vandy. But all of that is irrelavant because he was recruited by the University of Alabama. Obviously he did some things right in high school to get noticed by one of the best college programs in the land. On the contrary, guys like Locker and Cutler who have all the physical tools in the world, ended up with doormat programs. That says a lot about how all three of them were rated coming out of high school.

McElroy is a winner who plays in a pro style system and is coached by a former pro coach. He will not need to be “developed slowly” as you think. There have been numerous QB’s drafted outside of the 1st round go on to make the teams who passed them up pay. From Montana, to Favre, to Brees, to Brady, and now McCoy; who were all told that they were too small, or too slow, or didn’t have a pro arm, they all have proved the nay sayers wrong.
Hey there’s nothing wrong with having a different opinion. In my opinion McElroy will be a fine pro quarterback.

"Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthend, ambition inspired, and success achieved."
-Helen Keller

by NMVike on Nov 25, 2010 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Very nice article

The phrase “metric assload” in the caption busted me up! I’m already curious about what next week’s new drama is going to be. Cause you know there’s gonna be something! It’s just like that this year.

by abba7 on Nov 23, 2010 2:02 PM CST reply actions  

The real questoin..

Will Webb even be a 3rd string QB next year? I am curious if the Vikings organization decides on maybe converting him to WR where he was initially thought..

maybe now that Childress is gone, the Vikings become explosive..

Anyways, we can always beg Favre to return if we can’t find suitable QBs for the 2011 season. :)

by Deek on Nov 23, 2010 2:12 PM CST reply actions  

…explosives are haxardous, but if you’re looking for Favre to add to his historical league pick record, don’t say I didn’t warn you…

by Elgar on Nov 23, 2010 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

I think Kolb has the goods, and Philly will have a hard time keeping him on their bench behind Vick. Since he is still unproven we should be able to get him for our 2nd round pick, which lets us use the 1 rounder on O-line.

by Jshore on Nov 23, 2010 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Philly was looking for more

Heard mentions of something like a 1st and 3rd, a 3rd that we don’t have, and wouldn’t give up anyway.

by loldotcom on Nov 23, 2010 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

YES

Best available player. He is only 26. Big up side.

by NCviking on Nov 23, 2010 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

List of FA after 2010

P. Manning
M. Vick

Not sure who else will be FA
But these are people who may be available.

P. Manning will be costly, and could likely finish his career as a Colt, depending upon if their organization decides to find a new franchise QB.

Vick may test the market.. See what he is worth… If he sealed his fate as an Eagle, they would likely be talking contract extensions/new contracts by now.

I am sure there are more FAs to be available after the 2010 season, but those are two that come to mind. We assume Manning would resign w/ the Colts, and we fear that Vick a viable option would re-sign w/ the Eagles.

But, we won’t know until the time comes.

by Deek on Nov 23, 2010 2:22 PM CST reply actions  

True

Vick is taking a lot of hits and they will take a toll. If his play falters before the end of the season Philly may not want to pay him the big bucks, in which case we may want to pursue him. If they do sign him to a big contract you have to believe they would be willing to deal Kolb.

by Jshore on Nov 23, 2010 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Could you imagine

What P. Manning would do with Percy, AD, Shank, Rice and crew?

by Jepp The Viking on Nov 23, 2010 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Could you imagine

Having another great experienced QB who is a field general.
P. Manning may wish to pursue a ring via another team. I think most players have EGOs and to get a ring on two seperate teams means that it wasn’t that particular team that did it for you.

I am sure P. Manning sees the talent and would love to QB the Vikings, however, would the Vikings cough up the big $dollars$ for it..

by Deek on Nov 23, 2010 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Manning doesn't have anything to prove.

Look what he’s done with that team, that typically is just a ragtag bunch of no names.

He posts 4,000 yard seasons nearly every year for the last 12 years. But the Colts are as likely to let him go, as we are likely to let AP go.

by loldotcom on Nov 23, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Well

I think P. Manning would be a great contributor to the team.
If he was available, he would realize that Minnesota is probably the biggest ‘in-need’ of a QB..
Surrounded by Talent, he would likely understand that he has a good fit here talent-wise.
Learning the offense, and having a nice run-game to back everything up.. We could see some exciting games.

by Deek on Nov 23, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Make it a double please

Manning and Dungy! I think not but I can dream…right?

"Skol Vikings! Let's win this game Skol Vikings!

by DaRange on Nov 23, 2010 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

We have already seen this episode before.

We don’t need a stellar QB, we need stellar defense.

Tired of crying

by PurpleTears on Nov 23, 2010 5:16 PM CST up reply actions  

There is no list here

Neither of those will be leaving their current teams. It’s not worth the time to even think about.

With Chilly gone, the McNabb talk may even be over. So who does that leave us that is better than TJ?

by Arsist on Nov 23, 2010 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

O-line

with our o-line we need a mobile QB.

by NCviking on Nov 23, 2010 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

We Broncos

and Vikings have had comparable seasons from hell. In the craw of my gut, I felt this could happen if Brett Favre was allowed to dictate on his own terms again. I don’t hate the Vikings but I think Favre was given too much control.

Brad James

by the new Bradfather on Nov 23, 2010 4:08 PM CST reply actions  

We Packers are grateful for the W's

But deep down you want your rivals to be competitive. I hope things work out in Minnesota, but only so much. Ted Thompson is turning out to be more of a sage than the AntiChrist for letting Favre walk. Chilli just drank the cool aid, and couldn’t see clearly. BTW don’t have access to local media, did Brett return the favor and drive him to the airport?

by Farveuless Pack on Nov 24, 2010 8:32 AM CST up reply actions  

if we shore up tho o-line thru 1st rd pick and/or trade..

…then even a ‘serviceable’ qb can succeed here..there should be a few available..

w/o o-line help.. likely even manning couldn’t bring home the prize..

need some hogs..

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the preceding statement was false" - george carlin

by BranFavrenton on Nov 23, 2010 4:11 PM CST reply actions  

You speak the truth!

Having a dominant line will help anchor the entire offense. Imagine what AD could do if he wasn’t getting hit at the line of scrimmage all day.

by kenmtb on Nov 24, 2010 3:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Not all his fault

This season can not be attributed only to one man. The team as a whole has been subpar. I am not upset that the Wilf’s fired Chilly. I personnally, was against him being hired in the first place. You need a coach who as a O coordinator actually ran an O. Reid in Philly ran the O. And as for the notion (indicated in this article) about him bringing accountability, lets not forget to speeding tickets by our franchise RB, the two incidents involving our starting left tackle, and need I not remind everyone we have two starting DL pending a court decision on taking a masking agent.. Maybe not all those are as news worthy as a “love boat” scandal but not all is rosey on Childress’s record.
That being said, I was happy to see the constant improvement we had under his leadership. Two wins each season for 4 seasons is not easy, ask the Bills or Lions or Rams. He had some hits and some misses. I still didn’t like the release of Matt Birk and Darren Sharper for personal reasons not performance. For every Percy Harvin, we got, we alos got a Tyrell Johnson.
Maybe time to clean house alittle and hire a coach and GM separately!! I wonder if Dungy would like to be a GM?!? :P

Go Vikings!!!!

Sportz70

by Sportz70 on Nov 23, 2010 4:42 PM CST reply actions  

vikes need defensive backs

A couple of comments; first Manning will remain a colt and be the highest paid player according to the owner, second, I believe the Williams are out of the woods. If I read right the US Supreme Court ruled against the NFL. Now on to the show. I am happy Chilly is gone, never wanted him in the first place but at the time he was a step up from Tice. I question Frazier’s ability due to the fact the defense blows harder than the wind coming down from Canada. The DBs are terrible, I am not sure they(Winfield excluded)could cover my grandmother, may she rest in peace. The Vikes tend to take cast offs for the secondary and not get any worthwhile production from them; example, L. Sheppard and the safety M. Williams. I was high on the rookie Cook until this past game, thats why I question if Frazier is the right guy. He runs the D and I am not seeing any production out of them at all nor does it seem that he is bringing along young talent such as Asher and Cook. We arent going to the playoffs but we still have a chance to kick some ass this year.
Go Vikings!

by CAvikesfan on Nov 23, 2010 6:27 PM CST reply actions  

THE DAY AFTER

Finally the vikings hire a defensive mind to be the HEAD COACH i have wanted this every since BUD GRANT retired.

I hope LESLIE FRAZIER coaches here for the next 10-15 yrs and wins multiple SUPER BOWLS.

Time to look forward GO VIKINGS !

Sorry CA vikesfan but frazier hasn’t missed any tackles or blown any coverages this year that i have seen and he hasn’t been in charge of the draft either.

by Bako- on Nov 23, 2010 6:33 PM CST reply actions  

…yeah, Bud had at least as many Super Bowl victories as Childress, so I would bet Frazier will win at least as many of them as both men combined…

…of course, I saw the Browns fire some defensive minded idiot called Belichick, and the local papers said it was an overdue move, since he’ would never make it as a head coach in this league…

…then Modell fired Cleveland itself, hired an ex-offensive coordinator from Minny, and won a Lombardi…

…of course, coaches don’t have to pump up Ray Lewis with a tire pump before every game, so I guess Brian Billick could do the other parts of his job and not worry about people pouting, since Ray would beat the crap out of them…

by Elgar on Nov 23, 2010 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't forget

…Dungy went to Tampa Bay and set up the superbowl team for Chucky, then went on the win it all at Indy.

…Brad Johnson and Rich Gannon both played in the same superbowl, one was good the other not so good.

by sx2700 on Nov 23, 2010 7:26 PM CST up reply actions  

re: the day after

BAko,
I get it, I hope Frazier does well. Would like nothing better than to have a great coach in place that players want to play for. That being said, Leslie does coach the D and they have not looked good at all. If they aren’t playing up to their ability because they didnt like Chilly then they need to go. Bottom line, they are professionals and they need to play as such. Although, I dont know if I would be waterboy for Chilly. I will say that the Vikes have been my team for 40yrs. and I wont stop pulling for them. but my wife and children want me to stop screaming at the television during the games. And Christ, losing to the Packers. C’mon, I have to lock the guns up when that shit happens or I would take out the TV screen. You would think they would play hard against the pack but they mailed that game in. Watching that game is still better than the local 49ers and Raiders.
Bleeding Purple Profusely
Go Vikings!!

by CAvikesfan on Nov 23, 2010 6:50 PM CST reply actions  

excellent assessment

The “all in” approach burned this team in 2010 and wasted so much talent, yet was amazing in 2009 – a dangerous servant and a fearful master. How many times throughout football history has this method truly worked? Not that many I suspect. Draft well, develop, retain. Greenway, Rice, Harvin, Peterson, K Williams, EJ, Ray Edwards, Also helps to have a great coach and front office.

The odds of getting to the Super Bowl and winning it are by no means astronomical, but aren’t very likely for the average team to GO even once in 20 years, I would imagine. It’s tough when you put the stadium part into the equation and the fear of losing another beloved team to LA. That’s why it’s called all-in, It’s boom or bust and they mortgaged this teams future out. I get why they did it, but if we could get that burden lifted and just focus on player development and only worry about being competitive, I think a lot of issues would be solved. Look at the Wolves, got rid of the diva types and idiots, still lose but are losing competitively and are fun to watch. Who’s with me when I say I just want to have a FUN TIME watching my team.

That being said, Why not snatch up a rather young QOTF with experience (Kolb) draft a hot-shot CB (Patrick Peterson in a perfect world or Prince Amakumara) start to shore up the O and D lines through FA and future drafts, and just relax and spend a decade having fun, getting to the playoffs or not, and use the draft to improve every year. I mean man, look at the Lions they’ve had a rough go of it but have drafted well and are in position to be competitive for the next several years. Our team hasn’t won the big one in 50 seasons, Please Wilf family, spend your loveboatloads of cash on legendary coaching and smart front office. It’s probably going to be a painful next seven to ten years but if there’s a Super Bowl at the end of it, it’s all worth it, right?

/rant

skol

I think it’s more like we’ve got a bald front left tire, need to throw on the donut and wobble at 55 mph into that 7-11, chill out drinking Dew whilst googling the nearest firestone on one of our smartphones. Might take an extra 35 minutes but we’ll get there.

skol

by the magic skol bus on Nov 23, 2010 8:35 PM CST reply actions  

Excellent Perspective

Well done, Chris. I agree with you on most of the points you made, with only a single, meaningless caveat in regard to Favre’s INT numbers; I don’t think the apportion of blame is very fair there. Quite a few of his INTs came off the hands or chest or shoulders of receiver who couldn’t hold onto the ball. The way the rules read, until the receiver has possession, it’s Favre’s fault for the INT. I realize it requires a judgement call to tell the difference rather than just simply blaming the QB, but after watching Favre get so many INTs because someone else didn’t do their job, I’m more conscious of it. Meaningless in light of the end-result, I know, I just hate to pile on the man when I don’t think it’s entirely fair.

The QB Carousel is already cranking up, it should be a very interesting pony ride. IMO, for the rest of the year, the Vikings should give T-Jack every opportunity to step up, and get Webb some face-time in the real NFL.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Nov 23, 2010 9:55 PM CST reply actions  

great post

I and alot of other people didn’t forsee this coming..Thought Childress was here till the end of the year..Nice to see some of guys with a chip on their shoulder..Should be a fun remainder of the season
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by Jonny Piff on Nov 23, 2010 11:02 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Retread Qbs dont work out.

Look at Tampa, Baltimore and Atlanta. They developed a Qb and built the team around him. The Vikes have the skill players to do it. Kurt Warner had 2 All Pro Wrs in AZ . I am sure someone will bring him up. What did he do with the Giants?? A more conservative system shackled him. The main reason John Gruden was run out of Tampa, because he never developed a QB.

by Sterling Sharpe on Nov 24, 2010 10:30 PM CST reply actions  

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