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As the Horns Turn: Enter Leslie Frazier, Head Coach

In a season where drama and not winning has reigned supreme, it has been another exciting week.

On Sunday the Minnesota Vikings' crumbling balance devolved into a full collapse against divisional rivals the Green Bay Packers. Lethargic and struggling on their home turf, the Vikings failed to dominate in any aspect of the game and a once championship-caliber team was reduced to arguing on the sidelines while fans shouted for their coach to be fired.

Something had to be done.

So, for the disgruntled Vikings fans who've been calling for team owner, Zygi Wilf, to fire coach Brad Childress, Thanksgiving came early. On Monday, after the Minnesota Vikings worst home loss in close to a decade dropped the struggling team to a disappointing 3-7 record, Zygi and Mark Wilf dropped the hammer and fired Childress. Defensive coordinator, Leslie Frazier is now the Vikings' interim head coach, and that brings us all up to date on "As the Horns Turn."

The media, still chafing about being lied to regarding Brett Favre's return to Minnesota in August and Randy Moss being released from the team earlier in the month, shouldn't have cause to complain this time around. This latest installment of drama was handled promptly on Monday. Childress was fired in the morning, an announcement was made to the players during a team meeting at 1pm, and by 3pm there was a press conference with both Zygi Wilf and Leslie Frazier to formally inform the world that Childress was out, Frazier was in, and the Vikings would attempt to focus on preparing to play the Washington Redskins next Sunday. And, it would seem that the media is in a benevolent mood because just about every report I've read said that Frazier said all the right things and looked very sharp in his gray suit.

Maybe it's just my lingering affection for the Super Bowl Shuffle*, but I like Leslie Frazier. And that's why I have mixed feelings about him getting his first NFL head-coaching job this way. With only six games left in the season he has to show that he can help the underachieving Vikings to pull together and play like the team they should be. It smacks of being a Mission Impossible that might simply be setting Frazier up for failure and allowing the Vikings organization to be compliant with the Rooney Rule before they hire another white dude to coach and overhaul the team next season.

If Frazier is going to retain the Vikings' head coaching job beyond the remaining six games of this season, he's going to have to pull off a kind of miracle. With the way this season has gone, it may be a stretch to think this Vikings team is capable of miracles.

  • First, Frazier's going to have to find a way to use his zen-like presence to unite the Vikings locker room. That could be a challenge because, even though there were plenty of players unhappy with Childress, he did have some supporters who probably weren't happy that he was fired. Not only that, but as the losses have piled up, players have started to publicly criticize one another. Job one has to be uniting the team so that they fight opponents during games and not each other.
  • Secondly, the Vikings are going to have to start winning. To have any kind of chance to get into the playoffs, the Vikings have to win every last game they have and get lucky. Considering the way they have played up to this point, I'm not sure the Vikings will be able to do that. But, for Frazier to keep the head coaching job they need to start winning and show improvement.
  • Finally, the fans need to approve Frazier. The Wilf's may think they own the Vikings, but teams are more the property of their fans. Fans drive the revenues that make NFL teams the multi-million dollar entities they are. So, if Frazier is going to win the Vikings' head coaching job next season, he's going to have to win over the fans as well as the locker room and the Wilfs. Winning will probably go a long way toward making that happen.

This evening, enjoy time with your families, your Thanksgiving leftovers, and the holiday specials. Rest up, we have six games coming up and a new coach in charge-things will be interesting.

*As a kid in the 1980s, even in Vikings Land, you couldn't get away from da Bears and their annoyingly catchy "Super Bowl Shuffle".

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Nice Sentiments and All....

But frankly, the ONLY thing that would make me think that Frazier should be the permanent HC of the Vikings is if they go to the Super Bowl, THIS YEAR, and bring back the Lombardi. Nothing less. Winning every remaining game, and getting to the NFC CG, wouldn’t be enough.

Why? Because we’ve been there, done that.

The last two coaches were new to being Head Coach, and really really really, it’s not the same thing as being a Defensive Coordinator, or an Offensive Line coach, or even an Offensive Coordinator. I’m as big a believer in OJT as the next guy, but let’s not do that this time around.

This time around, let’s bring in a proven Head Coach. My preference would be Tony Dungy and I hope like hell that Zygi is already in talks with the man, but who knows what the money-man has in mind. No more newbie Head Coaches, no more ‘winging it’, no more ‘rompin stompin dynamite’. Give me someone solid, someone who inspires confidence to a team that’s literally falling apart in every phase of the game except the booters.

With all due respect to Coach Frazier…. I think that the Minnesota Vikings, and the fans, deserve a proven contender this time, not a roll of the dice.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Nov 25, 2010 6:18 PM CST reply actions  

You have a point...

But there are plenty of good coordinators that have made the transition to head coach look easy. Like Mike Tomlin. Either way, it should be interesting to see what happens for the last six games of the season.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Nov 25, 2010 6:33 PM CST up reply actions  

C'mon

we all know that’s not going to happen, stop kidding yourself
and with the potential for a lockout next season, there’s no way Zygi is going to go out and spend big bucks on a guy like Gruden or Cowher. Besides, both of those guys would probably want to blow the whole thing up and start from scratch.
With Leslie, the players know the system, like him, and are willing to play for him. Leslie is going to be the guy.

Oh, and everybody needs to get the Dungy idea out of their heads, he is not…coming…back. Period.

"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin

by thewild_viking_twins on Nov 25, 2010 7:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

To expect Leslie to be able to carry the Vikes to a Super Bowl THIS YEAR – that’s just asking a little too much. If we can even so much as win one road game I’ll be impressed.

by abba7 on Nov 26, 2010 7:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, if you are going to demand a Super Bowl appearance,

Then give the guy more than 6 games to make it happen.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Nov 26, 2010 8:23 PM CST up reply actions  

3 wins

If Frazier can coach this team to 3 or more wins in the remaining 6 games, then I think that he will have a great chance at keeping the HC position for at least another year.

This Yahoo article outlines a few of the changes that he will make such as simplifying the offense and letting Favre call plays on the field.

Really, Favre is the one ingredient who has played much worse than last year, so letting him figure out things rather than a clueless coordinator dictating to him could make a huge difference.

As for Dungy, let’s not forget that Joe Biden sat in a chair on Meet the Press and said that he really would not be interested in serving as vice president if Obama offered it to him. Sometimes it’s not good to tip one’s hand. Tony Dungy is absolutely thinking about this potential job opportunity, even if he is less than a hundred percent about it.

by KC Viking on Nov 25, 2010 8:01 PM CST reply actions  

Thanks for linking to that Yahoo article :)

How much freedom do you think Frazier will give Favre?

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Nov 25, 2010 8:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Zero

Time to sit Favre and see what we have in the youngsters. We need to find out the future and wash our hands of this season.

by Arsist on Nov 25, 2010 8:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Might as well let the old man play

if he wants to, the QBotF is not on this roster

"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin

by thewild_viking_twins on Nov 25, 2010 9:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Why

If the next QB isn’t on the roster, isn’t it best to see what we have? In the very least, give them some reps. Never a fan of tossing a rookie in their first year, which is basically what will happen if we draft one next year and TJ isn’t here anymore. I don’t like the sound of that!

by Arsist on Nov 25, 2010 9:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Lots

Since Frazier is a defensive coach and may or may not believe in Bevell, I think that Favre will have a very long leash. That could change after 2 ugly losses, but I don’t think that will happen.

by KC Viking on Nov 25, 2010 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm with you.

Considering that keeping Favre on a tight leash hasn’t helped the offense to be effective. Sitting at 3-7, I don’t see what the harm is in letting him have the freedom to try something else.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Nov 26, 2010 8:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey Skol Girl -- I know you have a soft spot for Favre as do I...

I’ve accepted the fact that he’s finished and he probably should be for his own health. He’ll more than likely be walking up to the podium at the Hall of Fame with two canes as it is. I’m left though at the end of the day feeling that the majority of football fans are stupid. Brett has no doubt brought much of the rain on himself with his surprisingly deceptive ego, but you know what, most people who watched him play this year are unwilling to recognize that his receiving corps were dead and at least half of his picks were either the result of a pop up or young receivers either being in the wrong place or slipping. Sadly, Brett always gets the blame and it makes me so livid that people don’t watch the screen or the game and see these things. It’s simply stupid and unfair and it befuddles me when I hear how badly he’s played. So many QBs in the league this year are throwing tons of picks. The Vikings will see when things get straightened out how it wasn’t always Brett. This year the worse thing about this team was clearly DEFENSE. Anyone who doesn’t see that simply doesn’t know football. I’m talking to everyone on this post! The intelligent people I speak to do not barbeque Favre because they have a bit more sense. Is he the QB he was last year? I believe he could have been… I really do. His arm was accurate this year and he’s thrown bullets. Anyway, I’m just saddened at the lack of sight in so called football fans. What if Brett rocks in the last six games under a new coach? Then what will people say, huh? It would be a bit of a conundrum there, wouldn’t it!

by GSANTINO on Nov 28, 2010 2:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep, still the coach next year.

Even though I don’t believe he is the right man for the job. The main reason will be because of the lockout looming. Unless something gets done, I think he will stay in place. Of course, if he somehow alienates the players and owner he’ll be out.

The list of Head coaches are pretty easy to narrow down. Cowher, Gruden and Dungy will not be coaching in Minnesota. Yes, I am that confident.

Now Billick or Shottenheimer……very possible.

by Arsist on Nov 25, 2010 8:39 PM CST reply actions  

Yes, might want to forget about Dungy

Seeing Tony Dungy with the Vikings organization again seems pretty unlikely according to a story that was in the paper today. Seems Mrs. Dungy isn’t thrilled about the idea of him being a coach again and he took his television gig only because he can spend most of the week with Florida with his family.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Nov 26, 2010 8:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm still not sure...

how I even feel about the idea. Just today, sitting around eating turkey and talking with the brother and the old man I flip flopped. I originally seconded the thoughts of my pundits, that with the uncertain labor agreement there’s no way Wilf goes out and pays Parcells 60 million to come in and hire a staff and build this thing. Simply put, Frazier knows the team and can be paid like a first year coach.

But look at how the Ziggster throws money around….say what you want about the Vikings front office structure and it’s Triangle of Authority nonsense under Childress, but Ownership has proven again and again it will spend and spend big, to bring in talent. From the big trade that brought Allen, to the entire Favre saga, to Berrians ridiculously large contract, AllDay’s future monster paycheck…Zygi opens the wallet.

So I voted that no, I don’t think Frazier will be the coach…because I think Zygi Wilf actually wants to put a winning product on the field and will go to any….any lengths to achieve it. He strikes me as a competitive guy. He also wants a stadium. And it would be a huge jolt to the fanbase if he blew it up, and started with a bigtime General Manager to oversee all football operations, and a splashy head coach that will demand a large contract.

I hate the thought of the next Dungy, or Tomlin leaving again…..and Frazier’s press conferences have been a breath of fresh air after Chilly’s monotone factoids. I think he is going to be a good head coach in this league. I just don’t think the situation will ease the outcry for a Cowher, Gruden type to coach this team. The fans want a big name coach. Everyday followers of the team might see the logic in hiring Frazier for the long term. But these Vikings love to create drama and keep themselves firmly planted in the spotlight. It’s both a blessing and a curse to the fan.

by JMigz on Nov 25, 2010 9:57 PM CST reply actions  

tough question

i dont know if frazer would be the best guy for the perm head coach position…….but the options out there that wouldnt blow up the team to get players that play their scheme are very few……as in one……..and i dont know how interested gruden would be in coaching again. parcells and cowher would want a team overhaul and dungy already said he doesnt want the job (or any other coaching job for that matter).

aside from that who else is even available, big name wise? schottenheimer? jeff fisher? (if things really go sour in tennessee) marriucci? (would he even want to stop being an analyst?)

Good things come to those who keep fighting

by lonewolfcee on Nov 26, 2010 12:36 AM CST reply actions  

Just wrote a couple DNers and time for me to say what I did about Dungy

Dungy isn’t and never was even going to interview! Get over it!

Now, you same people calling for Dungy may want to listen to him. I am a religious man and by no means perfect. What it does bring is my deep regard for those religious people who follow their values and live them with dignity. Nor flamboyantly
Dungy is one of these men. If you have read and heard him speak you will find a man, who is not perfest and had struggles. Living the life of a coach, being a strong family oriented men and yet dealing with the death of a loved son, he stood strong and kept his faith in tradgedy. He also had a faith in the way he was going to coach. Totally different from the norm of how I started coaching. Til I heard Dungy’s philosophies on how to guide a team and work with people thru books and video seminars. One person actively involved, one Leslie Frazier!
This approach, tho based on his values, became more than that -a different way to approach coaching and motivating leaders to change the way they do things. Success? Look at his football resume, the popularity of his books and seminars, the way people see a guy who really has something beyond football.
Why the dialogue on this subject? Dungy has touched many lives in and out of football. In his ventures he was the one called on to counsel Michael Vick. So far I see a lot of promise in Vicks way of dealing with his troubles and changing his life, which I really didn’t expect.

He has inspired many young pro coaches to reevaluate the way they think about being a coach. An approach that is one of quiet discipline and showing respect for the players under him. His biggesr followers. Raheem Morris, the same guy that rallyed a sinking/young Bucs team and did.n’t critisize his team in public but, gave his players a leader who stood up in the face of laughter saying he thought he had the best team in the NFC. True or not, it would sure make me feel like this is the type of coach who has faith in me and I’m not going to let him down. Another follower of this new trend in successful coahing, our own NEW LEADER – Coach Frazier! Yah! That gives me hope.
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People n DN calling for Frazier to be coach. Others saying he is soft. Not a take charge guy. Too soft spoken but, they want Dungy. Same guy who on the 1st day with his players addresses the team and states his expectations with quiet authority. Then says :“This is the loadest you will ever hear me speak,” The rules were set, expected and enforced.

Who did Dungy give 100 % support for? One, Leslie Frazier! A man who personally worked with Dungy in leadership groups and learned how and why the man did things the wayhe did. Why don’t you see Lwslie dancing the sideline ranting and raving? Cause he learned from the man directly who changed the stereotypical face of coachong -Dungy!

The Defense this year? One year of his leadership after buolding them into a force is still treated on these principles and no one player pointed a finger saying our defensive schemes were weak unlike offensive players who came out with some vad comments. ( and I can bet that Ray Edwards had a sit down with Leslie regarding his display to young defenders) Warrented or not, it was not Edwaeds place to disrupt the sideline, You will not hear avout it cause that is how Dungy would so nor would Leslie.This D knowa rhey failed themselves. They let the frustration of an offense that was playing 2nd half football and relying on them to hold the score down while being on the field way to long. They became tired and frustrated yet kept us alive in many games where the offense wasn’t prodiucing.Favre himself has stated that the play calling did not revolve arounf plays they had extensive rep work in or plays that statisticly showed consistant success. That is film evaluation that rested on the head coach who continued to run plays that got stuffed. The Favre approach and one I think Bevell and Frazier will use is to use those plays that have a high ratio of success tossed in with some extra things that will be worked on to the point the players know how ro run the play. The tweek was that so many play books have thick chapters but there is no way you can practice them all in depth. It seemed that from what I am hearing is that too many plays were called that had not been practiced enough to have a high hope of success. Favre said we had many plays that worked rime and rime again. We should have kept hitting the opponent with them. Makes perfect sense.

These are the things Leslie Frazier brings and I hope fixes. I believe he can and will.
A 6-0 miracle finish? I don’t know but if an over rated Dallas team can win 2 big ones and then almost shock the Saints with a coach that instills confidence – who knows? Maybe there is a miracle in Minnesota waiting.
This was meant to be a fan post but tried it out here 1st.

by CitrusFLViking on Nov 26, 2010 2:12 AM CST reply actions  

Time Will Tell

Leslie has six games to right the ship and bring the Vikings back to respectability. The odds are long but give the man the benefit of the doubt. We’ll know soon enough if he’s truly the coach of the future for this team.

by purplegrey on Nov 26, 2010 12:04 PM CST reply actions  

Frazier deserves a chance

Leslie Frazier should be our coach next year,no matter what happens the remainder of this year. I also feel Tjack should be allowed to start next year;however,a veteran dependable backup should be signed this offseason.Next year will be a transition season anyhow,but there are many fine pieces in place to field a great team. No,Bill Cowher,The Big Tuna,Tony Dungy or Chuckie arent coming back. I feel we will see some great improvement in the next 6 games due to Fraziers prescence at the helm.He is a class individual and has risen above alot of adversity the last few years and will thrive as a H.C. Remember Dungy and Tomlin? They were unproven when they stepped up to the H.C.Both have had very admiral careers! Lets sit back and see what this man has to offer.The players seem to respect him and he seems like a no-nonsense type guy.Its just a damn shame Wylf waitedto make this move.We all knew Chili was done.Im looking forward to the changes he will enforce in this team!!!

by viking88 on Nov 27, 2010 4:13 PM CST reply actions  

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