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Holy and crap.  For 55 minutes I watched some of the most putrid football I have seen in my 40+ years as a Vikings fan.  At some point, I'm not sure when, I felt like I was magically transported back to the abortion that was the lowpoint of the VIkings organization--the magical mystery tour of 1984, lead by Les "By God We're Gonna Take That Hill" Steckel.  Yeah, it was that bad.  But the silver lining was knowing that Brad Childress was going to be fired, and I would have so much material to write about I could moonlight for Letterman. 

Then, for a little over four minutes, I saw the 2009 Vikings, with a little bit of mid 1990's Brett Favre thrown in for good measure.  The offense played with a crisp urgency and precision, the defensive line played with fury, and defenders...wait for it...tackled people.  It was a great win that saved a job, but not necessarily a season (the Vikes need to string together some wins to do that). 

But now I find myself in a quandry.  How do I rate the game from a stock market report perspective? Do I focus on the first 55 minutes, or the last 5?  You can argue that the 55 minutes should be the bulk of the grading, because it was 95% of the game.  But they won, in very dramatic fashion, and in the end, that's all that matters, isn't it?  So I've decided to play this like the regular stock market on a really volatile day--a huge selloff to start the day where we see the market drop 900 points by lunch, but then a furious rally that actually gives them a net gain, like 25 points, by the end of the day.  Ho hum, another day at the office.

It was a day of highs and lows, and a day where Brett Favre and the defense was forever young.

 

Whatever road you choose, I'm right behind you, win or lose.

SMR, after the jump.

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Blue Chip Stocks:

Brett Favre, QB.  Sunday was Favre at his very worst, and his very best.  He had a terrible interception on the goal line, but there are maybe four people on the planet that can make that TD pass to Visanthe Shiancoe.  None of them, other than Favre, are currently on the Vikings roster, so let's just put the 'let's bench Favre' to rest.  I'm starting to think Favre is a cyborg, indestructible and incapable of being knocked out.  Two fractures in the ankle?  Cut it off and tape it up.  10 stitches in the chin?  Rub some dirt on it and give me the ball.  Leave 14 points on the field due to a bad pick and an incomplete pass on the goal line?  Just give me the ball and two minutes, Sparky.  And get the hell out of my way.  3-5 is still quite a hole to dig out of, but I'd rather that Favre have the shovel than anyone else.  I'm just not sure if we'll dig out or bury ourselves, but I do know this--it will be a thrill a minute to watch.

Adrian Peterson, RB.  Like the rest of the team, Peterson was fairly quiet for most of the afternoon.  But when he went in from 5 yards out to get the Vikings within 7, you could see that a switch flipped in him.  My Dad looked at me and said 'Adrian's fired up and pissed off.  God help the Cardinals if the Vikings get the ball back.'  They did, and he got the screen pass on the great Bevell call and ran like he had diahrrea with no toilet within sight.  When he got up from that play, he slammed the football down to the turf, started nodding his head, and it...was...ON, bitches.  Then in overtime, he went off tackle for 30 yards on the first play, and when the Cardinals brought a safety down in the box to stop him on the next play, Favre hit Bernard Berrian on a slant that essentially clinched the game.  He is the best that there is, hands down.

Chris 'Warcraft' Kluwe, P.  I got hammered by omitting Kluwe last time, so this time, I didn't forget.  If the VIkings had lost yesterday, it wouldn't have been Kluwe's fault.  As a matter of fact, for most of the game, the only consistent weapons the VIkings had were Kluwe and Greg Camarillo as a punt returner.  Kluwe punted 4 times Sunday, and every one was downed inside the 20, including a dandy play that stuck the Cardinals inside their one.

Percy Harvin, Überman:  If you saw the video of Harvin trying to practice on Friday, you probably thought to yourself there was no way he was playing.  That's what I thought, and my fantasy team paid the price.  But Harvin did play, and Arizona paid the price.  Harvin is about one more game away from becoming my favorite player next to AP.  I haven't seen a guy with that much heart and determination and will to play since...Favre?  He gutted out a painful ankle injury, and was spectacular.  You could tell his burst was slow on kickoff returns, but he was freakish as a receiver. 

Sound Investments:

Bernard Berrian, WR/PR:  Bernard Berrian has taken his fair share of warranted criticism, so when he steps up and has a good game it needs to be rewarded.  Berrian was good on the outside and in the slot, setting up the winning FG in overtime.  To his credit, he hasn't quit on his team when he could have, he just kept running into the wind, and it paid off yesterday.  It looks like Favre and Berrian are finally on the same page, and that's a good thing for the VIkings going forward. 

Visanthe Shiancoe, TE.  Shank, as in 'to Shank', as in 'stab in the heart'.  Shiancoe, like the defensive line, was quiet for most of the day, and then blew up in the last two drives, culminating with the game tying TD catch.  Shiancoe proved again why he's such a deadly red zone threat--he's big, he has good hands (and if you told me after the 2007 season I would EVER write that, I would have shivved you) and he can get open when he has to.  You could argue if he was open on that TD pass, but he was open enough.  Awesome throw, awesome catch.

Defensive Line.  Tough call on this one, because for about 55 minutes they had absolutely zero pressure.  None.  On one particular play, second quarter I think, Derek Anderson...Derek...Anderson...dropped back, went through his progressions, pulled out his iphone, waited to get a signal beause cell phone reception in the Metrodome sucks ass, downloaded the 'find an open receiver app', and when he finally did, about 32 seconds later, hit a wide open receiver for a first down.  Unreal.  But then, when the game on the line, the defensive line, and particularly Jared Allen, absolutely dominated and inferior Arizona offensive line, and they harassed and harried Derek Anderson, making him look every bit the journeyman quarterback that he is.  If it's not too much to ask, could we have that for the rest of the season please?  Thanks.  

Junk Bonds:

Toby Gerhart, RB.  Look, TG's gotten incrementally better each week, but yesterday, he threw a screen pass to Gerhart.  He caught the ball on about the 6 or 7, had a blocker in front of him, and it looked every bit like Gerhart was going to score his first NFL TD.  Then, he tripped.  And fell.  And didn't score.  What did he trip on?  Nothing.  He...just...tripped.  It was funny, and my Dad and I laughed, and then the Vikes failed to punch it in and had to settle for a field goal.  Then we weren't laughing anymore.  His running has been uninspiring, but that's probably not fair when the comparison is Adrian Peterson.  Just don't trip on a pocket of oxygen and we won't have to put you here, okay Toby?

Ben Leber, LB.  Did Ben Leber's name get called at all yesterday?  About the most I've seen him lately was the guy defending Chilly's decision to release Randy Moss.  Just for the record, that's not the reason he's on this list.  It's just that I didn't see him at all yesterday, which is surprising, because he's usually good for one or two big plays a game.

Buy and Sell:

Buy:  Greg Camarillo's effort.  So yeah, Favre throws the first pick, and it looks like it's going in.  My Dad drops the obligatory 'goddamnit' while I scream the obligatory 'somebody freakin' tackle him' plea.  'Cept I didn't say 'freakin'.  Then, out of nowhere, comes Greg Camarillo and BAM! 1st and 10 Vikings.  That was one hell of an effort, and it saved the game for the Vikes.  If Kerry Rhodes takes that in, I don't think the Vikes can make that comeback. 

Sell:  The Minnesota VIkings effort for 55 minutes.  So there's five minutes left, and the Vikings look dead in the water.  My dad, (who was in rare form yesterday) looks at me and says 'at least that idiot Childress will get fired and we can get a good coach in here', and I agreed.  The offense was struggling, Adrian Peterson only had 8 carries at that point--really?  The best running back in football, and he only has 8 touches.  The defense was giving up one third down conversion after the other, the line was getting no pressure at all, and the only guy that was making sure tackles was Antoine Winfield.

Buy:  The Minnesota Vikings effort for the last five minutes and overtime.  I don't know what happened, and I don't care, but those last two drives and overtime was some of the most exciting football since last season's Green Bay game in Lambeau.  It was a glimpse of what this team could, and should be, as we head into the last half of the schedule.  The offense was hitting on all cylindwers, the play calling was excellent, and the defense was fired up, recording more sacks in two series than they had all season, at least it seemed that way.  Awesome turn around.

Buy:  Bernard Berrian's shoes.  Berrian's new name is Bananian, in honor of those banana colored shoes.  Bud Grant would have had those shoes removed with a blowtorch if necessary, but I thought they were pretty cool.  And Berrian had his best regualr season game in over a year.  Coincidence?  I think not...

Buy:  Brett ' Two Minute Tommy' Favre.  For you younger fans that never had the privilege (or curse?) to watch Tommy Kramer, what you saw in Favre yesterday was vintage Tommy.  Throw for an assload of yards, toss a couple of ugly, ugly picks, but find the will to get downfield late in the game and manage to win the game.  In an unrelated note, Tommy Kramer is the reason my Dad and many in my dad's generation became alcoholics relatively late in life.

Sell:  Bad Brett Favre.  As enjoyable as that comeback win was, it really shouldn't have been that close.  And that's what you get with Favre.  Last season, he had a career year, and I think we were all naive (at least I was) to think those incredible numbers could be repeated.  He has to take better care of the ball and limit those mistakes, though.  Let's face it, if this had been one of the better teams in the NFL, the VIkings probably wouldn't have come back to win the game.

Sell:  Deciding that the 'we won't cover Larry Fitzgerald right before halftime and hope Arizona doesn't pick up on that' defense was a good idea.  Um, didn't work out so well, Leslie.  Let's shelve that defense, and never, ever, bring it out again when the VIkings face larry Fitzgerald.

So there you go, Vikings fans.  Halfway through their schedule the Vikings find themselves a 3-5, which is not where I thought they would be, but it's better than it could've been.  They have Green Bay and Chicago coming up in the next two weeks, and if they want to make the playoffs, they absolutely must win those two games.

It's not an optimal situation to be in, but hey, at least we're not Dallas!!

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Percy and Warcraft are just crazy,

with that said, should BB get his PR return duties back. I love cammy, but he really doesn’t have any speed, none. And with the field position we were getting yesterday, i felt we could have gotten a lot more.

by muffin man on Nov 8, 2010 6:19 PM CST reply actions  

Nooooooo...........

Don’t forget, BB started as the PR. There’s a reason Camarillo took that job from him- ‘cuz BB dropped it nearly every damn time. I agree, Camarillo doesn’t have much speed and we’re not going to see too many PR TD’s outta him, but it’s a helluva lot better than dropping the thing.

by KJSegall on Nov 8, 2010 7:17 PM CST up reply actions  

You kinda picked a pour time to bring up special teams

Though Greg won’t blow anyone away, we did just finish a game that seemed to provide us with an average starting field position around the 50 all game. That is in no small part due to Greg’s ability to consistently get (only) 10 yards each punt.

by Jayrome007 on Nov 9, 2010 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Great Post!!!

Would add selling the play calling the first 3 quarters aka Childress.

Honestly thought we were done and Chilly was too, was really cool to see a successful comeback once in a while. Gonna be real interesting these next two weeks for us. Do or die.

by FSUViking on Nov 8, 2010 6:24 PM CST reply actions  

Playcalling?

Giving the ball to the best runningback in the league only 11 times in the game [first 60 minutes] was insane! He should carry the rock at least 25 times in 60 minutes. The plays only got better when Brett started to go into the no huddle and calling his own plays.

My personal buy: the purple pants. I hope the Vikes wear them now until they lose a game. I hope that will take us through to preseason 2011.

It may take a village to raise a child, but it takes a Viking to raze a village.

by Luft Krigare on Nov 8, 2010 6:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree

Sorry – I posted below the same without seeing your comment first

"Skol Vikings! Let's win this game Skol Vikings!

by DaRange on Nov 8, 2010 7:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Kinda hard to run the ball 25 times when youre down 2 scores the entire second half.

"We have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-from Bram Stoker's Dracula

by NMVike on Nov 8, 2010 11:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes. but sometimes it gets to be AD overkill

and your back to getting stuffed by running him 20-25 carries every game.

by CitrusFLViking on Nov 9, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Sell

Special teams for letting the Cardinals take one to the house.

Junk Bond – Percy Havin for fumbling the ball on the kick-off and…

Sell/Junk Bond – The Special teams receiving corps for running off the field before the wistle blew and did not stop the Cardnials from scoring another special teams TD.

by Tuba on Nov 8, 2010 7:35 PM CST reply actions  

Buy - Those Purple Pants

Ted … you forgot to mention to those purple pants. Read somewhere the last time the Vikes wore those was against the Bears a few years back and we won.

BTW – Your buy/sells above were so damn funny I had tears in my eyes…great stuff!

"Skol Vikings! Let's win this game Skol Vikings!

by DaRange on Nov 8, 2010 7:45 PM CST reply actions  

...won and

…AP ran for a record 4,765,993 yards!!

by Soybomb on Nov 8, 2010 7:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Sell:

(if not Childress himself) Childress’s challenges. double-u tee eff?

Good post tho… would never have compared AP’s running too… the runs… but it works!

Skol!

by Thor.in.your.side on Nov 8, 2010 8:09 PM CST reply actions  

His challenge was a good one yesterday

It looked as if Percy was down and its a bang bang play that changes that outcome of the game. It also shows that Childress trusts Percy and his judgement and they’re not feudiing

What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your entire rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Nov 8, 2010 8:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I actually went over to my old mans house and watched a vikings game with him

for the first time since the 98 NFCCG, and i must say that i think i will be going over two weeks from now with a bottle of southern host and a twelve pack of diet coke and taking in another game. it was actually fun to watch it with him, hanging out with another hard-hearted, cynical a-hole of a vikings fan. BTW Ted- only two weeks left until i get wo watch the buckeyes lose to the hawks from 6 rows up on the 50, baby!!!

I piss people off on a fairly regular basis. I cherish my right to speak my mind, whether I sound like an uneducated savage or not. I've never been accused of keeping what I think a secret, nor will I ever. Don't like it? I don't care.

by IABerserker1 on Nov 8, 2010 8:14 PM CST reply actions  

Priceless...
Buy: Brett ’ Two Minute Tommy’ Favre. For you younger fans that never had the privilege (or curse?) to watch Tommy Kramer, what you saw in Favre yesterday was vintage Tommy. Throw for an assload of yards, toss a couple of ugly, ugly picks, but find the will to get downfield late in the game and manage to win the game. In an unrelated note, Tommy Kramer is the reason my Dad and many in my dad’s generation became alcoholics relatively late in life.

oh the memories…“WHY? WHY?!?!?! WHAT THE — NO!!! NO!!! NO!!! oh..crap…YEEEEEESSSSSS!!!” (At least that’s how I remember cheering for the Vikes when Tommy was slingin’)

by shem on Nov 8, 2010 8:17 PM CST reply actions  

It was definitely not boring.

I was at the Cleveland game that he threw to Rashad to win the game. Didn’t have a voice for about 3 days.

by bf4mvp on Nov 8, 2010 9:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree

He’s so good we all take it for granted sometimes…I know I do.

"Skol Vikings! Let's win this game Skol Vikings!

by DaRange on Nov 8, 2010 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Damn, sometimes a guy just can't win

But you’re right. :)

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by Ted Glover on Nov 9, 2010 7:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Your right.

I sometimes get frustrated by his short kickoff. but then I think back to all the games he has won for us, and I smile that he is on our team, because if the game is on the line, there is no kicker I would rather have.

Will the Real Thor Please Stand Up ... ?

by the Real Thor on Nov 9, 2010 7:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Flashback

Ted, I gave this piece a rec just for the “Two Minute Tommy” reference :D For those of us who remember the Tommy Kramer days, it really was like yesterday’s game was like. Kramer was better with the two-minute drill than he was with an entire game. Yesterday it was like the Vikings woke up at the end of the game and suddenly remembered they were/are a talented team and didn’t like losing.

Nice pick on Bernard Berrien’s shoes. I kind of worried that those bright shoes would be extra noticeable along the sideline, but not to worry—the banana shoes must be good luck.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Nov 8, 2010 8:35 PM CST reply actions  

It was never boring with TK, was it?

I loved the guy, although he could drive you nuts, just like yesterday with Favre. Then he’d get interviewed in the locker room after the game, and he’d have a dip the size of the Green Giant’s thumb in his mouth, spit into a paper cup and deadpan

‘well, we just took what the defense gave us.’

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by Ted Glover on Nov 8, 2010 11:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I've always said the reasons are so in love with Favre are a flipside of the same coin that makes you pull your hair out at his mistakes.

We all love to watch the guy who with everything on line will put everything on the come come hell or highwater. Although Manning is a wunderkind quarterback there just isn’t that level of what the hell is going to happen next that there is with old Brett. Two minutes left and all those points down are made for the guys who can just say “Screw it! Let’s get it done!” Thank you mr. Favre.

by GSANTINO on Nov 9, 2010 7:38 PM CST up reply actions  

It’s absurdly early, but raise your hand if you wish the Vikings had Colt McCoy instead of Toby Gerhardt right now.

Agreed on Berrian. If he plays close to that level the rest of the way, maybe he’ll stick around after all. He’s not Sidney Rice, but he can crush your dreams if you don’t keep an eye on him.

by jianfu on Nov 8, 2010 8:53 PM CST reply actions  

I would have shivved you - lol funny

Don’t agree with Sell Favre due to INTs. We know gunslinger can throw horrible picks but the one’s in this game were more on the O-line.

by izziefans on Nov 8, 2010 9:03 PM CST reply actions  

I don't know if I would sell the EFFORT of the first 55 minutes

After all Camarillo’s play came in the first 55, AP ran hard all game, and the Vikes were actually dominating the stat sheet.

I would sell the miscues in the first 55 however.

"We have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-from Bram Stoker's Dracula

by NMVike on Nov 8, 2010 9:56 PM CST reply actions  

Great point

Favre wouldn’t of been able to throw for 460 some yards if you were to say that the first 55 minutes were flat….

by Deek on Nov 8, 2010 10:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Okay, fair enough

How about we come to an agreement with the word ‘results’?

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by Ted Glover on Nov 8, 2010 11:15 PM CST up reply actions  

That'll work

I mean the results didn’t work in the first 55…ah you know what I mean.

"We have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-from Bram Stoker's Dracula

by NMVike on Nov 8, 2010 11:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Junk Bonds

Toby just doesn’t look comfortable back there does he? I know that I am in the minority with this opinion, but I’ve been glad that they are attempting to use him more. We traded up to get him, so we need to get his feet wet and find out what he has to offer. So far his play has left much to desire, but I am hoping experience will get him rolling.

Leber: Hank Baskett, Bryant McKinnie and the 5 yard line (Toby play) had more tackles than Leber did on Sunday. Maybe Greenway and EJ just played that well?

"We have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-from Bram Stoker's Dracula

by NMVike on Nov 8, 2010 11:23 PM CST reply actions  

I'm with you on getting him on the field

I think his improvement over the course of the season is tangible, but he still doesn’t seem comfortable back there, like you said. I think it’s just a matter of time before he settles in, and I will say he’s becoming a pretty good blocker, where AP whiffed on three blocks that I can think of off of the top of my head, one of which Joey Porter flattened Favre.

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by Ted Glover on Nov 8, 2010 11:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Anthony Herrera had some similar comments in his interview with Eric today

"We have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-from Bram Stoker's Dracula

by NMVike on Nov 9, 2010 10:26 PM CST up reply actions  

This is a reply to Ted BTW

"We have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-from Bram Stoker's Dracula

by NMVike on Nov 9, 2010 10:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Didn't watch the game.

Of course they win in comeback fashion when I don’t watch.
Glad they won, still think childress shoulda been fired. Watched my recording and there was horrible play calling all game. We moved the ball (Favre had what, 100some plus yards in 2 minutes?) when we went into the 2 min offense.
Considering we played the no defense, No offense having Cardinals, we shoulda done much better. But a win is a win..
Skol Vikes! Time for a 12 game win streak!!!
(Counting the Playoffs and Superbowl of course!)

Fire that ToolBag Childress, Like Yesterday! And Promote Lezlie to HC!
SKOL VIKES.
$traight Ca$h Homie.

by marsexxxy23 on Nov 8, 2010 11:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

AP + 3 wins vs 3 teams with 3 victories --- yeh kind of

Yeh I saw AP suddenly get madder than heck. Yeh.
If a loss would have meant the immediate firing of Chilli I am kind of sad we won, but since we do not know that that would of happened then I guess I am glad we won, but an effort like that will not cut it against a good team.

I hope we win out and go all the way and win our Superbowl. But before we announce the “we are coming song..” step back and realize that we have 3 win over 3 teams with a total of 3 victories. If we beat Chicago & Green Bay then you can start the “we are coming” song and we might have a shot. As for right now the man getting ready to put the nail in the coffin had to sneeze. He did so and has the hammer back again. 2-0 and we maybe have a chance. 0-2 and we are done. THEN LET THE FIRE BRAD CHILDRESS AND HIRE TONY DUNGY CHANTS NEVER STOP

by ZygiZag on Nov 8, 2010 11:55 PM CST reply actions  

Oh

Don’t forget that all of our games have been close..
Close enough where basically the game could of easily been won if a ball bounces this way or that way

by Deek on Nov 9, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Sell:

The new turf in the Metrodome. I’ve noticed a lot of guys on both teams during many games tripping like Toby did. AP slipped once, Percy slipped at least once (I know bad ankle). It just seems like the footing on that field has guys unsure of the right footing choice.

I feel bad for Toby because he is playing behind the best back in football and his mistakes big or small are being magnified by fans thinking AP should have been in the game. We have a coach and Offensive Coordinator who have shown a weakness in play calling and time management. He’s not AP and he’s won’t go into the game and bounce off a tackle and run for 30 yards on the other side. He goes in and does what he is told as a situational back. Give the kid some time…he is making progress.

Bears vs. Vikings Tickets - $150
Beer and food for 24 tailgate bus trip - More than $150
Watching Jared Allen destroy Jay Cutler LIVE - Priceless!!!!

SKOL Vikings!!!!

by boomy44 on Nov 9, 2010 12:01 AM CST reply actions  

Great take on the game...

I find myself in agreement with your opinions 95 percent of the time. Keep up the good work!

I would add Chad Greenway to the ‘buy’ segment- always in the right spot lately!

Also I am looking forward to reviewing the game tape to see how many times we sent more than the front four to get pressure in the last 5 minutes. I think that we need to do this more so average QBs don’t have time to make the reads… you can only cover for so long!

We needed this spark, lets hope it becomes a purple blaze through the second half of the season !

Someday...Vikings win a superbowl!

by MadisonViking on Nov 9, 2010 12:06 AM CST reply actions  

Excellent article and comments!

My dad was for many years was a Cardinals and Bears fan. But after hanging out here for a few games, seeing my passion, I have converted him into a Viking/Cubs guy. He, being a garage sale freak, well I now possess the largest array of Vikings clothing and gear of anyone in the nation! I shit you not. But it’s great to be able to watch the games with him. I think the Vikes beat the Bears and Jay “concussion” Cutler. And convincingly would be nice. The weather is projected to be about 45-50 degrees, and Vikes 31 – Bears 10. (what the heck) AD 173 yards rushing.

by abba7 on Nov 9, 2010 2:05 AM CST reply actions  

Rod Freakin Stewart?!?

by abba7 on Nov 9, 2010 2:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, Rod Freakin' Stewart

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by Ted Glover on Nov 9, 2010 8:33 AM CST up reply actions  

one with an ABBA in their screen name, prob shouldn’t complain about rod stewart ;-)

"the following statement is true:
the preceding statement was false" - george carlin

by BranFavrenton on Nov 9, 2010 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

boy oh boy.....rod stewart or abba.....well, that's a tough one.....you make the call :

.
rod freakin’ stewart <<<< click here >>>> abba dabba doo

( or for an alternative comparison of music of that era )…

six of one <<<< click here >>>> half a dozen of the other

in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.

by jethrophet on Nov 9, 2010 5:08 PM CST up reply actions  

i think i would have paid good money..

..to see an abba and sex pistols share a stage in concert!

"the following statement is true:
the preceding statement was false" - george carlin

by BranFavrenton on Nov 11, 2010 9:02 AM CST up reply actions  

B-A-N-A-N-A-S... dammit.

God I love the stock report. So true on everything, although, I do hope the nascar driver (Toby) gets his act together. I was very excited about him when we picked him up

This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

by theSwarley on Nov 9, 2010 7:24 AM CST reply actions  

Bananas.......dammit

TG is the type of runner that needs alot of carries becasue he gets better with the more touches he has. Unfortunately for him, backing up the best RB in the NFL is going to limit this. IMO…..he’s not being used enough to realize his potential. It’s just the way it is given AP’s success. If the Vikes keep him, if they could design an offense where they are both in, now that would be exciting to watch. Throw in a decent passing game and the Vikes just might be unstoppable offensively at least. But Gerhart is and can become a great RB in this league….provided he touches the ball more than 4-5 times a game. Personally, I think he needs to be somewhere else where this has a chance of happening. Right now, his talent is being wasted.

by jjlovesfootball on Nov 9, 2010 8:26 AM CST up reply actions  

I’m starting to think Favre is a cyborg, indestructible and incapable of being knocked out. Two fractures in the ankle? Cut it off and tape it up. 10 stitches in the chin? Rub some dirt on it and give me the ball. Leave 14 points on the field due to a bad pick and an incomplete pass on the goal line? Just give me the ball and two minutes, Sparky. And get the hell out of my way. 3-5 is still quite a hole to dig out of, but I’d rather that Favre have the shovel than anyone else. I’m just not sure if we’ll dig out or bury ourselves, but I do know this—it will be a thrill a minute to watch.

Well it took you a while Ted, but I see you have finally relented & chugged the Favre koolaid wholeheartedly :)

I think we were all naive (at least I was) to think those incredible numbers could be repeated

lol, actually I spent all summer trying to tell you guys you were setting yourself up for disappointment just assuming he would match or top his best career year. You just saying “we were all” kinda confirms what I’ve suspected (and outright posted suspicion of a couple times over this year), you regular contrbutor guys usually don’t even read what I write :(

by puddnhead on Nov 9, 2010 10:29 AM CST reply actions  

For what it's worth.

I read most of your and Grimes comments on “Revenge of the Birds”, and you did an outstanding job of representing Vikingdom. Very insightful stuff. I doubt that many have held the illusion that Favre would match his last year numbers (if you exclude RFF) , but it’s most certainly his last year (it is isn’t it), he’s by far the best we have (no offense to T-Jack), and I think people at this point are hoping for a Bon Jovi type “Blaze of Glory” ending.

by abba7 on Nov 9, 2010 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Favre's 2nd INT

Wasn’t Favre’s fault. It was a short drop and he still got hammered as he was throwing the ball. How many of Favre’s INT’s come because he’s being hit just as he’s releasing the ball? 3, maybe 4? Plus the fumble that Miami recovered in the endzone. The offensive line needs to be shored up, but how does that happen halfway through the season? Our offensive line needs to step it up, as well as our defensive line.

I AM VIKING, HEAR ME ROAR!!!

by BaldViking on Nov 9, 2010 10:33 AM CST reply actions  

Berrian

I don’t know who was wearing the yellow shoes yesterday but it couldn’t have been “banana fingers” Berrian. When’s the last time that guy showed up like he did in a game? If nothing else it appears Moss’ departure has lit a fire under the receivers.

I think besides Baskett (was he even in the game?) everyone had at least one catch.

….And Chilly watch continues. I don’t think Wilf has called off the firing squad yet.

by StuffIT on Nov 9, 2010 10:38 AM CST reply actions  

as much flack as he’s recieved, I really enjoyed watching him yesterday. I hope he can keep it up. and he better not take off those damn shoes either!

Goonga Galoonga

by theSwarley on Nov 9, 2010 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

It was the ....

… Cardinals we beat. Don’t forget that. Well coached. But without a QB, and missing key defensive players from the past few years, they are at best an average team. They probably are a below average team. We should beat a team like that easily if we are above average even.

We aren’t elite yet. But it did give one hope.

by HammeroftheGods on Nov 9, 2010 12:05 PM CST reply actions  

Excellent point

It was the Cardinals. They are a lousy road team that had given up 107 points in 3 games on the road while scoring 27 points. It took a career passing day from Farve to have the Vikings barely win a home game. You can be happy for the team pulling it out; however, this is fools gold to me.

When I think back to the latter years of the Bud Grant era, you knew the team from a talent perspective was not good enough to win; however, with Grant’s coaching ability you knew the team always had a chance. The team always seemed to find a way to maximize its talent and give its self a chance to win. The team could be outmatched and still pull out the victory.

Now, we have the reverse situation. Few teams can match the talent the Vikings have. However, due to the poor coaching that the team has, it can never maximize its true potential. Its just a sad situation to be in and to be so close just adds to the disappointment.

by Tnshow_knoxville on Nov 9, 2010 3:03 PM CST reply actions  

But didn’t the Saints, Packers, Jets, and Patriots — each six win division leaders on lots of superbowl favorite lists right now — didn’t each of them go down to wire against us in home games for them?

If

1) we suck because we went down to the wire against a lousy road team named the Arizona Cardinals
2) we have perhaps the lousiest road record in the NFL right now, going back one year to find a win

then

3) we are a lousy team

Does that sum up your arguement? But then, by the same logic,

4) because the Jets, Pats, Pack, and Saints all went down to the wire against a lousy road team named the Minnesota Vikings, all four of those teams are “fools gold” as well?

lol

by puddnhead on Nov 9, 2010 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

was it just me

or did the O (ugh)… the O (bleh)… the O li (cough).. the O…. line… step it up a tad at the end there too. I felt as though Favre had diaper loads of time back there for about 75% of the end of the game. Maybe it was me. I think a lot could be solved if those boys had an inkling of what to do….

Skol!

by Thor.in.your.side on Nov 9, 2010 3:36 PM CST reply actions  

I am sure the defense was being...

Ahem Conservate Ahem meaning, prevent the big play… Mostly due to the idea that the team had to just prevent a TD.

For OT, scenario is prevent them from reaching the RedZone, because a FG will win it.

Vikings would have likely done the same scenario, however, the Vikings D-line brought enough pressure to prevent any conversions.

by Deek on Nov 9, 2010 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Camarillo

It’s been mentioned here and probably on other threads, but I had to dedicate another comment to this guy’s effort.

In my high school locker room was the quote: “Hustle makes a poor player fair, a fair player good, and a good player excellent.”

You can’t control how much talent you have, but you can control how much effort you put into playing the game, and that play may very well have saved our season. I forget who the announcers were, but one of them mentioned how if Randy Moss was lined up where Camarillo was (the side away from the INT), that play doesn’t get made.

I’ll buy that effort any day!

As usual, great post Ted. I love these!

by JasonAve6413 on Nov 9, 2010 6:06 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

I rec'd that Jason

"We have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-from Bram Stoker's Dracula

by NMVike on Nov 9, 2010 10:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Another Quote

The quote that my dad used as a high school soccer coach was: “Hard work beats talent when talent doesn’t work hard.”

WR, CB, K & P of the Minnesota Machine

by dthompson on Nov 10, 2010 8:41 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

this post should have been labeled "NSFW"

I was laughing so hard at times, that I was getting looks here in the office! I think they know that I am not gathering the excel sheet data…

Sometimes it can be difficult to convey ones’ humor into words, but this one was certainly nailed!

Thanks!

by c_j_s on Nov 11, 2010 10:00 AM CST reply actions  

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