5 Good Questions With Windy City Gridiron
Kev H. is one of the bloggers over at Windy City Gridiron, the Bears SB site, and he sent over some questions earlier this week for me to answ--what? You know the drill? You want me to shut up and get to it?
Well, what if I want to drone on and on, and throw a few kudos out to WCG, which is a good site that covers a team we love to hate? You don't care, and you just want me to get to the Q and A after the jump? And you already know that my answers to his questions can be found over there?
Jeez, okay. Q and A, after the jump.
DN: The Bears are 9-4, and have the inside track to win the division. It's an impressive turnaround for a team that a lot of 'experts' thought were the third best team in the NFC North entering the season. What has been the biggest reeason for the turnaround, and are the Bears a legitimate Super Bowl contender?
WCG: The biggest turnaround is that the defense is back to being a legitimate contender, and the offense has settled itself down a bit. To be honest, it doesn't hurt that the universe seems to be against the Minnesota Vikings this year, and that the Packers have seen more injuries than a walk-in clinic on the Fourth of July.
But I think the defense really is the key. They're playing at an extremely high level, for the most part, and that's allowed the offense to settle down. Even after the debacle that was the Patriots game, the Bears are giving up an average of 17.5 points per game, good for 3rd in the league. If you can hold opponents that low, you should hopefully be able to score enough points to win. That's exactly what the offense is doing now, especially since they've found a running game again.. Though the offensive line seems to have regressed a bit in the past week and a half or so, they were starting to be a lot more consistent. I'm intrigued to see what happens if they can get some good linemen next year.
DN: As you know, the Metrodome roof collapsed, forcing the game to TCF Bank Stadium, the University of Minnesota open air stadium. Are you excited to see the Bears and Vikings playing outside in Minnesota, in December, or is this just another December game for the Bears?
WCG: To be honest, I'm actually a little concerned. This game against the Patriots showed a Bears team who was troubled by the slippery, sloppier conditions that were occurring. We've had a lot of discussion at WCG this week about the ever-prevalent myth of "Bear Weather", but it's not something that applies to this team. The Chicago Bears are built for speed and timing, both on offense and defense, and slippery conditions do not help that out. I don't think cold will matter, but I don't want to see slips and slides. Peanut Tillman falls down enough on his own--he doesn't need help. I told people earlier in the season that we were actually better off having the Vikings away game late in the season, so we could get in the dome in December. (Sorry if I jinxed that.)That said, I think it will definitely be an interesting game to watch, since the circumstances are so weird. I'm really surprised that the NFL is being so accommodating, as it seems that it would definitely be easier to just push the game to the Lions. I think having the 50th anniversary plans is helping to focus all efforts on getting it in Minnesota, and I hope it's a memorable game (that the Bears win.)
DN: Jay Cutler looks, in many ways, like a different quarterback this season. He has reduced his turnovers, and seems to be doing well in the Mike Martz offense. Is it the offensive system in general, a better familiarity with receivers, or better decision makingthat has lead to this?
WCG: Yes, yes, and yes. The offensive system is designed to make a team move the ball around, and take better advantage of what they see from a defense. Since the bye week, the system seems to have been adjusted to better suit Cutler's strengths, to get the ball out of his hands faster (because the line sucks), and to get it to receivers who are more open.Over the past 6 weeks, things have really started to click for them. Jay has also been able to move around a lot more, which has always been one of his strengths. Before the bye week, he was averaging 13.5 rushing yards per game. Over the past 6 games, he's averaging 23.5 yards. While you don't necessarily want your quarterback rushing that much, it's nice to know he can, and that ability is extending plays that never would've happened in the first half of the season.
DN: The Brett Favre era has ended, as rookie Joe Webb will probably get the start at QB for the Vikings. Would you just reflect what it was like as a Bear fan having to face Favre with the Vikings?
WCG: I naturally can't speak for the entirety of Chicago Bears fandom, but I can definitely share what I know I and a lot of others felt. I kind of always thought it was an inevitability that he would end up in Minnesota when he left Green Bay, and he just had to suffer through the season with the Jets. You could tell he wanted the shot back at those who'd ousted him in GB, and he finally got that chance.I wasn't what I would call scared about facing him, even after the terrible, terrible domination he had against the Bears while he was with the Packers. Part of that could be because he only won one game against the Bears while he was with the Vikes, and part of it was because I didn't think he was quite as threatening as he used to be. It was incredibly frustrating to see him succeeding against all odds in 2009 while "Favre Lite" came into Chicago and seemed bound and determined to throw an inteception to every defensive back he faced.
I think for Bears fans, and most football fans in general, they're just burned out on Favre. If he takes a year or two off, people will start to look back and see the dominant quarterback again, and not just the guy who seems to crave attention with every pore of his body.(Side note: The $500 footballs? Really? *shakes head* Unbelievable.)
DN: What are the keys to victory for Minnesota Monday night, and how do you see the game playing out?
WCG: As is the common theme, getting pressure on Cutler early and often will help significantly. The o-line for Chicago can get very flimsy, especially if they're attacked early. The tight ends continue to be average blockers, at best, when pressed into it. If the Vikings can throw Jay off early, it will help out. He's shown more of a knack at converting 3rd downs since the bye week, and if he can do that all night, I think the Vikings defense will pack it in.
With regards to the defense, the secondary can still be attacked. It'll be interesting to see if Webb does play, because I think he will get flustered if Peppers and Idonije get in his face. (Lord knows I would be.) If the line can keep the front four's pressure off, the Bears Cover 2 will allow him to move around a bit and hit the underneath stuff.
I think this game will ultimately end up being a 10+ point victory for the Bears, especially if the Packers lose to the Pats on Sunday. They'll just have more to gain from playing their best, while the Vikings may just want to get out of the cold.
Final Score: 21-10.
I assume Kev meant to say 21-10 Vikings, heh heh. Thanks again to Kev from Windy City Gridiron for taking time out to answer the questions that needed to be answered.
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(Side note: The $500 footballs? Really? shakes head Unbelievable.)
Yeah what a loser. when Joe Dimaggio charged $3997 for those bats commemorating the end of his career, now THAT was class!
Somehow it is conveniently ignored by critics of the man that part of the proceeds will be given to charity, and that so far this year Favre has already given $1.2 million to chairites in WI, MN, and MS this year, most recently $600,000 to various MN recipients a month ago (for those keeping score at home, that’s 1,200 $500 footballs).
But do, by all means, continue to insinuate the man as a greedy SOB.
by puddnhead on Dec 17, 2010 6:42 AM CST reply actions 5 recs
I think a lot of Brett's charity giving gets overlooked
Great comment btw! I have to ask….. do you think the Vikings organization might ask Brett to stick around longer….. In a coach position etc …… How would Vikings fans feel about that? Me personally, I would like to see that….
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by meno on Dec 17, 2010 7:55 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I would
I think he brings somethign to the team….
High morale!
And football knowledge
I just don't see Favre coaching for anyone
But that’s just me.
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That all depends...
If Favre really is as selfish as everyone believes him to be, we will never see him as a coach because he simply does not need the money.
But, if the itch is still there and everyone was wrong about him, then we will see him in a few years.
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by Ted Glover on Dec 17, 2010 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
If Favre really is as selfish as everyone believes him to be, we will never see him as a coach because he simply does not need the money.
By that reasoning, he would have just taken the $20m the Packers offered him if he would stay retired back in 2007. I know he made more in the end by playing, but if he hadn’t come back this year, it would not have been much more, “only” about $5 million.
But I do agree, he is not gonna be a coach … except at possibly the high school level. I think he genuinely enjoys that. If he does I can see his POV, its all about the game and the team, and not at all about the money (what NFL is increasingly focused on).
p.s. not everyone believes he is selfish. Just an inordinate number of those people who like to hear themselves talk.
How is that a good point?
He turned down 20 million over 10 years to make twice that in two. That argument has never made any sense at all, no matter how many times it’s repeated. There are plenty of ways to defend him, but this isn’t one of them.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 26, 2010 12:00 AM CST up reply actions
Favre is about Favre...
He was even about to be bother helping Rodgers while at Green bay. He’s your damn teeam mate, not the competition!
by Farveuless Pack on Dec 18, 2010 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
Looks like the 3rd qb since 1992 is about to start for your team
Too bad favre didn’t show him how to be tough.
At no point do I have anything against Favre's donations to charity.
Nor did I indicate that I did. Additionally, I never insinuated that I thought Dimaggio’s bats were anything more than a money grab, and I’m not entirely sure why they came up. That is, indeed, also very uncouth.
My problems with the footballs is as follows:
1. $500 is a lot of money for a piece of sports memorabilia, regardless. Especially when the items are brand new footballs that were not part of the streak in any way. I don’t think there is a single player, even Walter Payton, that I would spend $500 for a football on.
2. We have yet to be told what “a portion” is. I would love to hear that everything past costs is going to the foundation, and would definitely do nothing but applaud the man. However, if we were to find out that say, only 10-15% was going to the foundation, that would be very sad.
I guess I can take this chance to make it abundantly clear—it’s not that I hate Brett Favre. Yes, he ruined plenty of Sunday afternoons for me over the past couple of decades. He really does seem, though, like the kind of guy that I’d meet, and enjoy having 5-7 beers with. As I said before, those who aren’t benefitting from the high level of play Brett Favre brings are just suffering what I’ll call “Favreout”
I realize that, as a Bears fan, I’m not likely to garner the same goodwill automatically granted to your fellow Vikings fans, especially since our communities don’t necessarily have the greatest history of “playing nice.” But that’s the great thing about these “behind enemy lines”-type features, and SBNation as a whole. We’ve both got awesome sets of dedicated fans who know their football.
Plus there’s one fact we’ll always agree about: The Packers suck. :)
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by Kev H on Dec 17, 2010 9:07 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
liar
If you got a one of Paytons game balls with actual blood on it. I’m thinking you’d toss $500 for it. Hell I would, he’s still my favorite back. Um, I mean second favorite back after AD…
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
Actually, sadly not a liar.
A large part of it comes from my complete lack of ability to keep things in nice shape.
It’s ok to say that Payton is your favorite back. We’ve had tons of people who have absolutely no allegiance to the Bears whatsoever say that they still really liked him.
I like AP, too. It’s hard not to like him, he’s got just about everything you could want (or envy) in a running back.
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Nice
He really does seem, though, like the kind of guy that I’d meet, and enjoy having 5-7 beers with.
Why limit yourself to just 5-7 beers? If you get to the 8-10 range, you might get some inappropriate type of Favre memorabilia.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
Ahh. Then I presume you find equally “uncouth” this, or this, or this, or, yes, this, or … shall I go on?
My point is that people seem to expect Favre to meet some higher standards that they don’t hold any other player to. Because he is portrayed to play for the love of the game, everyone expects him to not care about everything else, such as money. None of those players I linked above get your approbation? Even though each of those items are clearly memorabilia that were produced by them and those they contracted with with just as motivated for personal gain. Maybe more, I am not aware that many NFL players have made as many charitable donations over the years as Favre. I doubt even 10-15% of any the original proceeds of the above linked items went to charity.
In short, I’m saying that, if one appies your reasoning to other players besides Favre, pretty much ALL star NFL players are money grubbing a-holes (with the possible exception of Barry Sanders and the Vikings own Robert Smith). Yes, including all the most famous ones on your most famous team.
by puddnhead on Dec 17, 2010 4:25 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
p.s.
Anyway, sorry, I did not mean to hijack the football discussion with that. I just get tired of seeing Favre, uniquely, yet again being accused of being selfish every time he is not completely selflesss.
Additionally
I’m pretty sure I never labeled him as selfish. That was the construct you invented out of my answers to form the basis of your argument.
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by Kev H on Dec 18, 2010 8:52 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Awesome comment!
That was a masterpiece with the links there. And I agree with Barry and Robert being unique in that respect.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, and please go on.
You seem intent on painting me into this corner where I think everything Bears is holier than anything else.
My problem stems from the fact that the sports memorabilia market is, in my opinion, sort of ridiculous. Yeah, I mean it’s neat that some guy signed an item, but…the unnatural rarity caused in that market isn’t enough to make me go, “damn, I need to get one of those.” I understand that many people are, and if you have the money, then go for it. I have a friend who’s got an autographed Don Shula ball. It’s neat, and it looks nice in it’s case on the mantle. It’s just not what I’d do for myself.
Now, you can go around pulling evidence of the Chicago Bears memorabilia market, and that’s fine. But I’ll even be the first to argue that the Favre ball is better than this guy right here(for those who don’t want to click, it’s a $389 AP football, marked down from $489), because Favre has set records and won a championship and part of the proceeds are indeed going to a charity.
I get it dude, you don’t like me. But we come from the same place it seems. Would we like all our players to play for the love of the game? Sure. Are the vast majority of the superstars kinda douchey? It would seem so. Does it inhibit what they do on the field? Not in the slightest.
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by Kev H on Dec 18, 2010 8:52 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
You seem intent on painting me into this corner where I think everything Bears is holier than anything else.
Actually I could give a rats arse about the Bears. The only reason I picked on them is because you happen to be a Bears fan so it was most to the point. You seem to be seeing my words backwards. The corner I’m “painting you in” is not one where everything Bears is holy. It’s the one where everything Favre is unholy. Again I only invoke the Bears because it was appropos to you. If you were a Broncos fan I would have dug up Elway and TD links.
Also: I like you fine. You apparently don’t remember but we’ve had productive conversations at WCG this year. I think you do a fine job over there.
Would we like all our players to play for the love of the game?
I would like it. But I really don’t expect it … in fact it would seem almost strange if that was the only motivation for a player. I pretty much accept and am at peace with the fact that NFL players want to make tons of money just like 99.99% of the rest of this country. I don’t hold it against them. That may be our main difference.
Anyway OK I’ll take your word that your criticism of the footballs has nothing to do with Favre & is just a general expression of your disgust with NFL collectibles market. To me it seems just a little too coincidental that the cirticism comes right after the sentence accusing him of “craving attention with every pore of his body” but … peace.
But do, by all means, continue to insinuate the man as a greedy SOB.
he is.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
"But do, by all means, continue to insinuate the man as a greedy SOB."
and 7 million more offered to come back was?
Goddamn it....meant to say that recd pud's comment but forgot to click on reply so it seems like I recd the article...
which is not too bad either but I recd Pud’s comment.
Don't worry about it.
I think we all have those days.
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Couldn’t have said it better myself. It’s like our franchise has been holding a black cat in one arm and a broken mirror in the other while walking under a series of ladders the entire season.
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by Eric J. Thompson on Dec 17, 2010 9:26 AM CST reply actions
While wearing a jersey with the #13
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Monday will be a tough night to be a rookie QB
If Webb can do more than keep his hands and feet warm on Monday night, he’ll have earned my admiration. It isn’t enough that he’ll be facing the team with the most wins in the division. It isn’t enough that it’s going to be Monday night with all of the extra issues associated with that. He also happens to be starting in the worst playing conditions and on the worst field that the Vikings will have played in all year… and maybe in a few years. If he plays well in this scenario, I’ll be amazed. And if he doesn’t play well in this scenario, I’ll give the guy a pass. Good luck, Webb.
The difference between Jackson and Webb
When the Vikings drafted Tarvaris Jackson, I could not see why they thought he would become a good NFL quarterback. He seemed mentally a little slow, a bit clumsy, and he didn’t seem to have a knack for dissecting defenses. His passes were sometimes wildly off the mark, and he had a disastrous habit of staring down his receivers, especially on down and out passes from the pocket. He almost never did any fakes. Worst of all, Jackson did not seem to learn new tricks over the five years he has spent with the team.
Now they have Joe Webb, and I can’t see why he won’t be a good NFL quarterback. Webb appears to be fast, strong and intelligent. Unlike Jackson, Webb seems to have a high level of natural athleticism. He appears to see the field as he moves. Better, he appears to move naturally with the flow of the action on the field. I don’t expect to see Webb running into his own blockers or banging knees with Adrian Peterson. Webb’s arm also appears to be more accurate than Jackson’s, and possibly stronger. I am eager to see him zap a 40-yard bullet down the middle to Shiancoe.
Webb’s first game might not be a good test, but it might reveal some of his natural talent, as everybody will be slipping and sliding on the frozen field of TCF stadium. Will he still be able to connect with receivers? Should be fun to watch.
This team had so much confidence in Webb that they were going to make him a receiver before Favre got hurt
Now I’m not saying that wasn’t because Webb has the tools to be a phenomenal receiver, and Favre is an iron man. You still have to think at the time at least Frasier wasn’t looking at Webb as being in the QB position next year.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
It's the same people though
The people who stuck with TJackson are the same people who were thinking of putting Webb at receiver. Whether or not Webb is ready, he’s the guy for now. Let’s hope for the best and see what happens… particularly in games that won’t be as brutal as Monday’s.
Webb appears to be fast, strong and intelligent. Unlike Jackson, Webb seems to have a high level of natural athleticism. He appears to see the field as he moves. Better, he appears to move naturally with the flow of the action on the field.
While many of those qualities may be important or even necessary to be a great QB, I don’t think they are sufficient.
I’m saying it takes something more than all that.
I think it is the same field...
… that Cutler will be playing on. And Cutler’s not exactly been good in prime-time games.
How warm are Cutler’s hands going to be?
The Vikings have AP and in those conditions it might be the difference.
by HammeroftheGods on Dec 17, 2010 6:49 PM CST up reply actions
Read Webb interview transcrips
Lets hope the fact he commands the English language better than T-Jack equates to commanding the huddle better than Jump Pass Jackson as well.
by Jepp The Viking on Dec 17, 2010 11:04 AM CST reply actions
Kev H -If the Vikings can generate a decent pass rush -
One of the people who Cutler has gone to the last few years (especially near the red zone) is Greg Olsen. Can the Viking line backing unit focus on stopping the run and still account for him? And, even with the poor field conditions, do the Vikings dare kick to Hester?
Not only Greg Olsen
But the Vanderbilt connection has really stepped up between Cutler and Olsen over the past few weeks. So there’s two go-to guys to look for.
It can happen, as Olsen only has one reception per game over the last three games. (The last for a TD being against the Eagles) The big key seems to be keeping him out of the endzone. The Bears are something like 14 and three when Olsen scores a TD.
And I wouldn’t kick to Hester. Assuming he can get any kind of traction.
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Vandy connection between Cutler and Bennett
by Digs D-League on Dec 18, 2010 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, that's what I meant, but I think I was looking at how I had just typed Greg Olsen
Chalk it up to an eagerness to answer you guys questions!
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You have forgotten.
We run the WR reverse once per game, and it always seems to net about 8 yards.
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Not if we have Madieu Williams!
Oh wait…he sucks hard wangs…nevermind.
by Jepp The Viking on Dec 17, 2010 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
Cutler is our QB
We’re secure in our insecurities.
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Preach it, propheteer!
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