Brett Favre UPGRADED From Out To Questionable; May Play Tonight
by Christopher Gates on Dec 20, 2010 12:13 PM CST
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After spending all week getting Joe Webb prepared for his first ever NFL start and the excitement that's come with it among the Minnesota Vikings' fan base, we get this from Chip Scoggins of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune just a few minutes ago on Twitter.
Brett Favre has been upgraded from out to questionable tonight. He will throw 2 1/2 hours before game time to see if he can play.
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My reaction? Let me put this as delicately as I can.
No. No, no, no, no, and no.
I don't want to see Brett Favre out there this evening. I want to see Joe Webb out there this evening. There is no reason for Brett Favre to be out there this evening, particularly if he is injured and unable to play at full capacity.
I absolutely can't believe this. I'm having trouble even formulating the words to express how I'm feeling about this right now.
You guys try. Discuss below.
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I can not agree with you more
There is no joy (or point) to seeing Favre limp around the field tonight. The excitement I have about watching tonight’s game is not that the Vikings will potentially get another win. My excitement is about getting a chance to see Webb play. Will he play well? Probably not — he’s a rookie and the field conditions will be terrible. However, he’s the only one of our quarterbacks that should be around next season. Let’s see what he can do, and at a minimum, let’s let him learn while we have the luxury of letting him learn on the job . This season has been lost from a playoff perspective. Let’s do the things we need to do to get stronger for next season.
Disagreed.....Favre deserves....
A chance to come out on a historic night, play the first series, complete a pass, shrug is wounded wing, and give a thumb up to a crowd of adoring Minnesota fans. Lets not be like those Fudge Packers and wash this man out of town without any class. He deserves it. Pull your head out of the Webb patoot for just a minute, cheer for Brett all the way to the sidelines, and then re-assert head (with me) back into Spidey’s arce and enjoy the snowy night.
At the very least, it throws a planning/preparation wrench into Da Bears plans….
SKOL VIKES!!! SKOL FAV-RE!!! SKOL WEBB!!!
by J.RO on Dec 20, 2010 1:12 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Another thought just occurred to me
Perhaps Favre will be active so that the Vikings will actually have someone who knows the system and can play a bit if Webb gets hurt. I hope that’s the reason.
Brett was just sad that he wasn't getting enough attention.
He couldn’t just sit idly by while his team was on national television! The story must be about Brett Favre at all times!
But yeah, just wear your stocking hat and stand on the sidelines. Tonight is our chance to see what Webb can do.
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by Eric J. Thompson on Dec 20, 2010 12:27 PM CST reply actions
spoken like a memeber of the media
that just can’t leave him alone. I love it when the media who hounds him, sits on his lawn, reports that he has nothing to say, then turns around and accuses him of wanting attention. the coaches want him to play, the players want him to play, espn certainly wants him to play. Webb is a nice kid but he in no way gives the vikings a chance to win tonight.
by FlFan on Dec 20, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It depends on how you view winning. A hobbled Farve gives us a better chance at beating the Bears tonight than Webb.
Joe Webb gives us a better chance to lose thus getting a higher draft pick next year(winning).
Actually, I'm kind of stoked
I’d love to see Favre get out there and capture some lost magic, if only for one night. The 50th Anniversary team, outside, in the snow…just seems kind of appropriate for Favre to play. It would be nice for him to get a nice ovation from the crowd, but that’s just me.
Sadly, I think if he starts, he won’t finish though, and we’ll see Webb before the first half is out.
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by Ted Glover on Dec 20, 2010 12:30 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
This
I think it’d be great if Favre played at least a series, if only so the fans could salute him in what’ll likely be his last home game as a Viking. Now, bear in mind I’m also in man-love with Favre, but I think it’s the least he deserves if he’s healthy enough to play.
In the meantime, here’s what I wrote about tonight’s game: http://nwontario.blogspot.com/2010/12/outdoor-football-in-minnesota-in.html. Alas, I’m in Toronto and I’ll be at the tonight’s Leafs/Thrashers game…but do I ever wish I could see an outdoor Vikings “home” game just once. Call me crazy; then again, being from Northern Ontario and having walked to school in minus-40C, I probably am. ;)
Second series and then walk away as a winner.
That would work. No need for him to start. No need for him to stay.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
Hell...
Come in for a snap. Hand the ball off to Adrian, then walk very slowly back to the sideline. I’d be all for it.
i think its killing him..
…to think a sack/int is his last memory of nfl.. for his retirement sanity, he needs to throw one more completion..
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by BranFavrenton on Dec 20, 2010 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
Yes....
he deserves a homefield round of applause, in uniform, out on the field. He has earned that. Plus, he could pull off a great performance, exceeding expectations, as he has done so many times before.
His career should NOT end on the sidelines.
While he may not finish, I do not think it will be due to injury. A solid drive or two ending in a score or two, with a final wave to the crowd would be perfect.
Just Say NO to Favre
Pay the Old Man to give advice and pep talks to the young fellas for the rest of the year, NOT to play.
As others have already said, tonight’s a chance to see what Joe Webb is made of, and that’s damned exciting.
If Favre plays, the best he can do is make it harder for us to get a top-rated QB next year, AND at the same time, keep us from figuring out who Joe Webb really is. Winning the game is a Lose-Lose-Lose proposition, since all it does is make it easier for the Packers to take the division. It doesn’t do squat for the Vikings.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
is it just me
but as die hard vikings fans isnt the main goal for our team to win, i mean high draft picks are nice but wanting your team to loose is just wrong and i thank god somoene like you is not our coach ..no offence, this is our 50th annieversery game against a division rival, PRIDE IS ON THE LINE joe webb aint goin nowere if favre plays or doesnt play some end of the season momentum would be great for our confidence going into next year
by favre4204ever on Dec 20, 2010 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
Webb will get his chance.
Let the Iron Man finish it for once and all.
This time he is really done. No questions about that. Let him go with a bang.
Yeah, and like all season long
the Defense will zero in on him and knock him out. How much damage would he suffer this time? Time for him to sit and stay put. Let Webb go out there.
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don't see it's anything to get worked up about one way or the other
I’d enjoy seeing either one of them…also it may be jumping to conclusions that they are really considering starting him…unless as some have said as a farewell to Minnie fans. Last report I had heard made it sound highly unlikely he is capable of playing a whole game.
He should play one more time
He deserves the shot to play one more game. However, I hope this is just laying the groundwork for it being the last game, indoors v. Detroit. I’m concerned for his wellbeing if he forces it against a good defense in bad weather (what we are looking at this week and the next).
And as for Webb, I cannot see it making a difference for him. We already know he’s not our Starting QB for next year, he is way too raw.
I'm beginning to get a little frustrated with this site. . .
First, Favre is our savior. Now we all hate him – put in TJack, right??! He’s the answer!
Obviously not.
Now we say put in Webb – no experience, but that’s fine – we want to see what we have for the future! What about losing to a division rival? I don’t want to lose to the Bears.
TJack isn’t the answer. Joe Webb isn’t the answer. Every week, while we piss and moan about Brett Favre, we fail to realize that he was (and is) always our best shot to win – even when his stats are poor. And please don’t bring up the “TJack won that game” argument – he played terribly. Brett could have won that game with three picks as well.
I like winning. Especially against division rivals. And Favre in a wheelchair gives us better odds at that than anyone else we have on the bench. I know a lot of you look towards the future with draft picks, but I guess I don’t really care about that right now.
I wish we could stop blaming Brett for all the problems this team is having. If he wants to go in and play (and risk getting hurt even more), I am 100% behind him. Besides, that shoulder is hurt enough that he won’t play the whole game. We’ll see Webb eventually.
Just one man’s opinion. . .
by Viking in MT on Dec 20, 2010 1:03 PM CST reply actions 8 recs
I don’t know… I’d say if we can still see Webb for about 3 quarters I’d be ok.
I think we’re frustrated with Favre cause we set expectations too high. All this drama brought us down. Then we wanted to try T-Jack, cause it can’t hurt to try, otherwise we wouldn’t know. So now try Webb. What if he does show some potential? Then we know.
Well said.
I have a feeling he will be our emergency QB tonight. I think they will save him until Detroit. That way he has a controlled environment.
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by AustrianViking on Dec 20, 2010 1:51 PM CST up reply actions
I don't want the sack/int
to be his last play either.
I’m not sure he’s healthy enough to START tonight. But I’d rather have a QB who knows the offense in case the worst happens.
And I do think Favre should probably start the last 2 road games, unless Webb plays out of his mind tonight. Throwing him in against a team like Philly, esp, with its exotic blitz packages, would be suicidal.
I tend to agree with that -
As far as tonight goes- 4 or 5 inches of snow, plus about 23 degrees, I would think it would be real tough to get an injured shoulder/hand loose.
It is Fav-re's forte' though....
to do the unthinkable, and perform during the unfathomable odds of this game.
Like I said earlier, I think this is being done because he will start the game, only to leave after the first drive, so that we can give him his due adoration. Fav-re is better than Webb, but Webb is our shiny new toy. Brett knows that, and is pulling for Webb to do well and give us hope for the future (although I fear we will be let down in that regard).
With that said, the 50th anniversary game is the perfect storm for Fav-re to play a drive, complete a few passes, and remind us why he was a special part of the NFL, and a much appreciated piece of the Vikings….Let’s not ruin this because we are freaking out, Webb will play the majority of the game, and we will get our fill of both.
Let’s be real MN fans, and cheer Fav-re on his way out…He deserves that much.
SKOL VIKES!!! SKOL THE OLE GUNSLINGER!!! SKOL THE PURPLE AND GOLD FUTURE!!!
Didn't you say the same thing
last week about Tj? Everyone wanted to see TJ who was healthy and mobile. How’d that work out for you? didn’t even make it out of the game and got shipped off to IR. Fact is even at 50% Brett gives the vikes the best chance to win.
by FlFan on Dec 20, 2010 1:14 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Well Well
I am torn about this also. Does a healthy BF give us the best chance, yes. But a BF that make all of the throws, and I mean the long ball- something his injuries have limited with this entire year, then no. I think he should be the back-up tonight. Brady proved that last week with exposing the Cubs secondary. I think he is deserving of dressing for the last game, but should only play if Spiderman is hurt. JMO.
Don't get me wrong
If Favre plays, I’ll be cheering for him to play well, because he’s a Viking and I want the Vikings to win.
I just see zero reason and/or benefit to it at this point, that’s all.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 20, 2010 1:17 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Don't take this personally...But...
don’t act like some fudgePacking fans. We have more class than that.
If he plays, remember what he has done, and brought to the NFL and the Vikes. Give him his props…than cheer him off the field.
We can then join him as he cheers Webb on the rest of the game.
SKOL VIKES!!!
Re-visited....to which comments do you refer...
seems like my comments are in line with everything else I’ve said…
Fav-re has earned my respect, TJ sucks, Webb is an intrigueing player (who I hope will do well, but should probably be a receiver).
I love the Vikes, and we are playing for respect the rest of this season. Nothing is more respectful than giving a HOF QB his due one last time.
Like I implied, I think GB did this guy wrong, and I don’t want us to fall into the same chasm.
SKOL VIKES!!!
Reason for Favre playing..........................
Is that he will be the starting QB for the Vikings in 2011.
Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!
Brett Favre will be back in 2011, Guaranteed!
Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLVI, Guaranteed!
by REVENGE4FAVRE on Dec 20, 2010 4:56 PM CST up reply actions
There is more than zero reason Chris...
See my comment above…put it in that light, and it seems more than reasonable.
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POOP!
I don’t want to watch Favre stink it up tonight. I would much rather see what we’ve got with Joe Webb. I’m not expecting anything great, just not pure boneheaded play. I would be happy with part boneheaded play. It’d still be better than T-Jack
Agree with Chris...
And for reasons deeper than just the desire to win or the likelihood of winning this game.
The Giants game last week, while a disaster thanks to both the on-field performance and the atmosphere of the “home game” was our first one without either Favre or Childress. It was a combination of “OK, as you can see, we’ve hit rock bottom in just about all phases of our franchise – but also we can put that episode in the past and begin to really look forward to the future and the changes that need to be made.” No more being entirely wrapped up in the drama of the past 12 months, we could actually start envisioning the future.
Joe Webb starting the Bears game outdoors in front of the Viking faithful would mean we could truly embrace what we can look forward to and quit rehashing all the crap that has gone wrong. Is Joe Webb our starting QB going forward? Highly doubtful. Do I necessarily like our chances of winning tonight? Not really. Will Favre and Childress both being gone mean all our problems are solved? Not in the least.
But tonight was going to be a nice feeling of transition. With Favre around, the stench of the past 11 months still hangs over the field. Not that everything that went wrong recently is his fault, but it’s time to at least find SOMETHING to be excited about for next season. Brett Favre can’t provide us with that.
Following this line of thought....
the stench has emanated from most of the team this year, therefore nobody should play except for the practice squad.
It’s not about us, or any of the percieved stinkiness of the 2010 Vikings.
Not to sound like a broken record, but seriously, let’s give Fav-re his due for a drive or two and watch the Ole Gunslinger go out in a blaze of glory.
SKOL VIKES!!!
Sorry but....
Favre has said either he’s all in or not. Don’t confuse the issue. No matter what folks say, the guy only wants to play to win..period. If he can’t then he won;t. He’s not interested in playing one or two series (those are his words). If he’s healthy, I want him to play.
No apology needed...
he would be all in IMO if he went out in style, played a little and graciously passed the torch to the younger, completely inexperianced Webb.
It’s good for the Vikes on the 50th anniversary, and I for one would find it inspiring to see the Ole Gunslinger one last time…
SKOL VIKES!!!
I agree but...
Only if he’s healthy. It’s really a mute point, because I believe Favre will not play to be a token. If he can play, then I hope he sticks it to the bears.
Agreed...
Of course, we could debate that Fav-re hasn’t been healthy since 1992…but Fav-re healthy.
Either way, it would be a nice story. All of this is merely speculation based upon his game time status changing. It could all just be a ploy to throw the Bears plans/preperation off.
I will just hope that it is a historic win on a historic night. I wish I could be at the game…Oh well…
SKOL VIKES!!!
He could do like Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack...
and throw a ball to himself and then grab his injured wing, and in comes Webb to replace him for the rest of the game…
Yeah, the thought makes me laugh…
SKOL VIKES!!!!
There will be plenty of time to find people to be excited about for next season
This is Iron Man time.
The only team which doesn’t want to see Favre on field tonight is Chicago Bears.
by izziefans on Dec 20, 2010 1:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Play him
If he is able to play he is by far the best the Vikes can put on the field. The weather is going to be bad along with the field conditions, so he will not be throwing deep balls just handing the ball to AD. Arm strength due to the injury will not be an issue. The man has been beaten and broken since coming to MN and had always got up until the hit in Buffalo. Let him play and finish his career on the field in the most perfect of storms.
As much as it pains me...
I wanna see Brett in the weather at home one last time…these games are what he lives for…
by Jonny Piff on Dec 20, 2010 1:39 PM CST via mobile reply actions
On the bright side...
…if Favre plays outside in the cold, he won’t have to worry about having an ice pack after the game. It’ll probably take him until Wednesday to warm back up.
Yay!
I get to wear my Favre jersey again! Brett Favre is our #1 QB, and if he’s able to play then he should play. Joe Webb will get his shot in due course.
I would hope you would understand, lol
J/K
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BF gives the best chance of winning when he is healthy
BUT he is far from healthy and I don’t want him to get killed out there. Let the O-line get used to playing with each other more and get Favre healthy and let him finish the season and his career in Detriot – where it started. I for one hate losing to a division opponent but I do not want the Bears to be able to say that they ended Favre’s career.
SKOL VIKINGS!
Brett Favre's last play in the NFL
Pump fake…
wait, this is practice. Handoff to Joe Webb. The defense sure was fooled on that one, they did all their last minute preparation thinking they were gonna go after an old man. Webb takes the field Running lane wide open for AP and Webb all game.
… One can hope.
ONLY if he's healthy enough to be effective
as much as i would like to see Favre bow out in front of the minnesota faithful, we NEED to WIN this game. #1: I hate the bears. #2: I got $10 on it. #3 – #100: I hate the bears. I want JA to smack the pout right off of cutler’s crybaby face. I want AD to juke peppers, snapping his ankles while stiff-arming urlacher’s grill, then hurdle tillman for a TD leaving nothing but frozen bear carcuses behind him. I want to see Forte bash his head into a frozen williams wall ALL NIGHT LONG. I want to see a W and only a W. I don’t care who our QB is and i don’t think our TEAM needs to sit around playing head-games with the media on who’s starting or not. We need to focus on one thing and one thing only: giving the Bears a little black and blue divisional hospitality and sending them back to the windy city accordingly. SKOL!!!!
by DM_Purp on Dec 20, 2010 3:05 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
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The offseason is too long
to be worrying about draft position and building for the future. There’s plenty of time for that in February moving forward. Don’t tell me that moving up one or two spots in the draft is going to make a world of difference. I love watching every game win or lose. I don’t have NFL network and here in Des moines, they didn’t have last game on Fox so i had to go over to a buddy’s house to watch the game and he booted me so he could go to sleep halfway through the fourth(he’s a bear’s fan) and that sucks that they’re having a bad season, but i’m never going to root against them or even concede to the idea of us losing is better for the franchise. There’s only one way to build a franchise. WIN WIN WIN
O RLY?
“Don’t tell me that moving up one or two spots in the draft is going to make a world of difference.”
Try telling this to a Timberwolves fan (that is if you can find him).
NFL diff from NBA
See Lebron James(cleveland)
Also see Peyton Manning
There’s too many variables and are only a handful of players coming out of college that are absolutely guaranteed to have their skills transfer.
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NO! For the love of all that is holy, Webb must start the final 3 games! I’m not saying we should intentionally tank, but we need to have some sort of idea as to whether or not we need to draft a QB. Playing Favre any more is now pointless. We’re out of the postseason picture and his streak is over.
Now that Brad Childress is gone, the BCS needs to follow.
if he plays tonight: I think it'd be safe to say that he is going for total 300 reg season games.
All tough records to break.
PH and SR
it would be Favre’s first game all season with Sid and Perc. Unfortunately no Hutch either and he may be more important than the other two combined, all things considered
If he wants to, he deserves to play.
He has destroyed his body for this team and us fans (and $20mil). If the field really is bad I wouldnt want spidey out there getting hurt. What is the worst case scenario for if Favre plays? We could loose and get a higher pick. Oh dear.
Let Him Play ... It's His Last Few Games Of His Life .. He Deserve To Go Out As He Wishes...
Besides .. Didn’t we learn our lesson begging for a weak Qb … How did Tjack work out for us …
by VikinginCalifornia on Dec 20, 2010 4:33 PM CST reply actions
Favre will be back in 2011.
Guaranteed!
Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!
Brett Favre will be back in 2011, Guaranteed!
Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLVI, Guaranteed!
Would love it if it happened but it will not.
He is not coming back. Denial is not a river in Africa.
by izziefans on Dec 20, 2010 5:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I sure will
Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!
Brett Favre will be back in 2011, Guaranteed!
Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLVI, Guaranteed!
by REVENGE4FAVRE on Dec 20, 2010 5:05 PM CST up reply actions
It sure will.
Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!
Brett Favre will be back in 2011, Guaranteed!
Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLVI, Guaranteed!
by REVENGE4FAVRE on Dec 20, 2010 5:05 PM CST up reply actions
Would love it if it happened but it will not.
He is not coming back. Denial is not a river in Africa.
I am not in denial........................
Let’s just say I have my sources>
Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!
Brett Favre will be back in 2011, Guaranteed!
Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLVI, Guaranteed!
by REVENGE4FAVRE on Dec 20, 2010 5:06 PM CST up reply actions
Favre Starting
What a warrior. Most men would roll over and quit, especially with injury and cold weather. Not #4. Hats off to him for having the courage and tenacity to play. Win or lose, tonight will be a memorable game for him and the Vikings.
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Pick up Booker
I’m in the same situation but I’ve got a comfortable lead. I picked up Booker a little while ago just in case Johnny Knox goes nuts for my opponent.
by CanadianViking on Dec 20, 2010 7:00 PM CST up reply actions
I tried but would have to dump AD or Percy
We may be a keepers league next year and I don’t want to cut AD or Harvin. I can’t cut any player who has already played this week
Sucks
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That sucks man.
I was able to cut TO since he’s out for the year and I didn’t start him this week. Hopefully Percy comes through for you.
by CanadianViking on Dec 20, 2010 7:13 PM CST up reply actions
It's consolation anyway but I'm a gamer!
To live up to ny new AKA I had Webb starting and had to grab Favre off waivers
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