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First off, let's start off with a big "Congratulations!" to Antoine Winfield on being named the NFC Defensive Player of the Week after his outstanding performance last night against the Philadelphia Eagles. Winfield was a thorn in Michael Vick's side all night, constantly blitzing from the corner position and registering not one, but two sacks of Vick on the evening, one of which resulted in a Vick fumble and the subsequent 45-yard return by Winfield to tie the game going into the locker room at halftime.

The Vikings didn't have a lot of guys that you could potentially argue as being Pro Bowl snubs this season, but Winfield is probably on the short list. After all, while the Vikings' secondary as a whole has been pretty bad this year, very few of the big plays that they've given up have come at the expense of #26. He's not a spring chicken any more, but there aren't many corners in this league that I'd trade the guy straight-up for.

More after the jump.

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-As far as the Vikings' coaching search? Just go ahead and take the "interim" tag off of Leslie Frazier now. Keep Darrell Bevell and Fred Pagac as the offensive and defensive coordinators, too. . .particularly Pagac, after that brilliant defensive scheme he put together last night. (Pssssssssssst. . .hey, every playoff team in the NFC. . .Michael Vick has some trouble handling the blitz. . .pass it on.) The Vikings came in with the clear plan to get after Vick, and that's exactly what they did.

My particular favorite example of this was when the Eagles ran a bit of an option play that saw Vick attempt to pitch the ball to DeSean Jackson. Jared Allen got through the line untouched, and saw the play developing. . .at which point he said to himself, "You know, I can either chase this reverse, or I can beat Michael Vick's ass." He then proceeded to plant Vick into the turf.

Minnesota's defense played with what another Winfield. . .Jules. . .may have termed as great vengeance and furious anger. I'd like to know where this has been all season, to be honest. I'd also like to see it in 2011 with a (finally) healthy Cedric Griffin back at corner in a secondary that Madieu Williams isn't anywhere within 500 miles of on a weekly basis.

-Joe Webb made a lot of nice plays last night, but the one that stands out above them all is obvious, in my opinion. Moving the team down the field after the Eagles had scored to get within three at 17-14. After a 1-yard loss by Adrian Peterson and an incompletion in the direction of Visanthe Shiancoe, Minnesota was facing third-and-11 from the Philadelphia 47-yard line. The Eagles called a time out to ready themselves for the ensuing play. . .something that would come back to bite them later. . .and everyone in the stadium and watching on TV knew the Eagles were going to bring the house.

The house was indeed, as they say, "broughten," and Webb. . .as you'd expect from any quarterback that was drafted eight months ago with the intention of moving him to wide receiver. . .stood tall, looked into the teeth of the blitz, and fired an absolute laser to Percy Harvin for 19 yards and a Minnesota first down. AP took the ball for 27 yards down to the 1-yard line on the next play, punched it in the play after that, and the Eagles never seriously threatened again.

That throw that Webb made wasn't a good throw. . .it wasn't a great throw. . .it was a Peyton Manning/Tom Brady/Ben Roethlisberger-level throw. It was a "I'm going to destroy any momentum you might have" kind of throw. The Eagles thought that they had the Vikings right where they wanted them, and they may have. . .but Joe Webb got the job done. Lest the rest of the writers here corner the market on adding music to their posts and so forth, I would like to share with you what I'd now like to humbly refer to as "The Joe Webb Song." (WARNING: Potentially offensive language in said song.)

Let's see. . .what else.

-Speaking of Harvin, in what might be a bit overlooked, he had his fourth career 100-yard receiving game, and his third this season. He snagged seven passes for exactly 100 yards on the evening, including a beautiful 46-yard rainbow from Webb to start the second half on a play where he was getting absolutely mugged.

-Asante Samuel should have Week 17 off, courtesy of the league office, for the cheap shot he laid on Sidney Rice. This isn't Samuel's first trip to the helmet-to-helmet rodeo.

-Winfield's touchdown gave him a tie for the all-time Vikings' franchise record with four defensive touchdowns. He has two interception returns for touchdowns (against Chicago in 2006 and against Atlanta in 2007) and two strip/sack/fumble recovery touchdown trifectas (against Carolina in 2008 and last night against Philadelphia). He also had a blocked field goal return for a touchdown against the New Orleans Saints in 2008, which I guess counts as a special teams touchdown rather than a defensive score, if what we heard last night on the broadcast is any indicator. (Thanks to Percy Harvin My Fav! for pointing out the discrepancy.)

-Adrian Peterson got his 52nd career rushing touchdown, taking 60 career games to do so. He tied the record currently held by Chuck Foreman (who required 93 career games to get his 52 touchdowns) and Bill Brown (who needed 180 games to do so). He also had his first fumble of the season. . .fifteen games in. Said fumble wasn't even forced by a defender, but by his own teammate, Bernard Berrian (who, thankfully, is probably looking at his last game in a Viking uniform on Sunday). While it would have been nice for the NFL's best running back to go all season without a fumble, AP's streak this year was impressive none the less, particularly after what happened last season with him putting the ball on the turf.

That's really about it for tonight. . .as awesome as this last game was to watch, it's time to start looking towards the finale against Detroit and, hopefully, avoiding double-digit losses for the season. Have a good rest of your evening (or morning, wherever you're at), and we'll see you back here tomorrow.

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Nice piece and nice Pulp Fiction ref.

by izziefans on Dec 30, 2010 1:22 AM CST reply actions  

Just to correct you Chris

Either Winfield has 5 defensive touchdowns or one of the interception returns was actually a fumble return in which he did the same thing to Jake Delhomme of the Panthers two years ago as which he did last night- A stip sack Touchdown. Good notes on the game by the way, just thought Id let you know that one.

What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your entire rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Dec 30, 2010 1:35 AM CST reply actions  

I'm trying to remember

It may be two fumble recoveries. . .

-Interception return for TD against Chicago in 2006
-Interception return for TD against Atlanta in 2007
-Strip/sack/touchdown against Carolina in 2008
-Blocked TD return for a field goal against New Orleans in 2008
-Strip/sack/touchdown last night

Unless they’re counting that blocked field goal return as a special teams touchdown and not a defensive touchdown, which I guess would make sense.

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by Christopher Gates on Dec 30, 2010 1:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Yea they might be counting the Blocked Field Goal

as a special Teams one.

What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your entire rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Dec 30, 2010 2:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Very nice article

Although I REALLY like what I saw out of Webb last night, many members mentioned today it’s always good to have a good back-up plan (which we all agree with I assume). In which post it was I can’t recall (shit that was 15 minutes ago), but someone brought up the name of Colin Kaepernick, which seemed rather intriguing. Wonder if anyone new anything about him other than the Wiky article?

One other thing directed at you Chris. After THIS season, one might think that the Norseman might have a few less people meandering about it in the off season. With THIS group I don’t think that will be the case! lol quite a few sharp ones and that’s a good sign.

by abba7 on Dec 30, 2010 2:18 AM CST reply actions  

After the way this season has gone

I’m really surprised that it was so much fun to watch a vikings game in Week 16. Thanks Chris (and everyone) for making the games that much more bearable/enjoyable/interesting even through rough times. I love reading and commenting on the games, team, opposition, etc and I’m thankful that this forum exists! On Sunday, let’s put an exclamation point on this season and beat up on the team that I (silly me!) rooted for growing up (those lovable, yet maturing, motor city kitties).

by IlinoisVike on Dec 30, 2010 7:50 AM CST reply actions  

No to keeping Bevell, regardless of who the HC is.

And I don’t buy the argument that one good game removes the fact the Vikings laid eggs in the previous two with the same regime.

Could Frazier be the guy? yeah. But make him earn the job in the interview process, and at least take a LOOK at who’s out there and potentially interested first.

by Shawn Gillogly on Dec 30, 2010 8:13 AM CST reply actions  

If Frazier stays

I’d be surprised if Bevell and Pagac weren’t retained as well. The Vikings offense has been more creative the last few weeks, and Pagac is an Ohio State guy, which means he should get the job for life. :)

Oh, and Frazier hand picked Pagac to step in for him. It would be weird, I would think, for Frazier to go to him and say “hey, good job as interim DC, but you’re not good enough for the permanent gig. Go back to LB coach or get out.”

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by Ted Glover on Dec 30, 2010 8:24 AM CST up reply actions  

I didn't see creativity in the offense

against the Bears of Giants.

Sorry, Bevell was Klink’s yes man. He needed to be gone already. He definitely needs to be gone now. I don’t think we’re best served as a West Coast Offense team anyway.

by Shawn Gillogly on Dec 30, 2010 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

That first drive against the Bears before Favre got hurt

was very good, then it kind of went downhill. I think the personnel for a west coast team are there, but I would chuck the zone blocking and go man to man. Seems to be a waste of some road graders.

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by Ted Glover on Dec 30, 2010 3:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Drop the Zone

McKinnie and Hutch were much better as road graders before they installed the zone blocking scheme. Straight ahead, dominate with size and strength seems to work better than pick an area and try and find the right guy to block. Offensive line was a strength until Birk dipped on us. We need a new scheme and some serious steppin’ up in that department.

by JMigz on Dec 30, 2010 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

you have to be a yes man at times if you want the job

now that he is not a yes man he has been showing some good play calling.
its amazing how when chilly isnt overriding how the game plan actually works.
Bevell was never a physically gifted QB he was however one of the most intelligent
his knowledge of the game was superior to just about every other college QB of his day
and some coaches…lol. Keep Bevell!

A bird in the hand is worth about 10.99 at KFC and makes me lick my chops
Yummy!!!!!

by kdog69 on Dec 30, 2010 8:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice musical selection

Maybe we should all moonlight as DJ’s. Wait, we moonlight as bloggers. If we also did the DJ thing, would that make us sunlighters?

So confusing…

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by Ted Glover on Dec 30, 2010 8:27 AM CST reply actions  

Where have they been all year?

If the defense had played like this all year, the vikes would be in the playoffs. Same with the oline. they didn’t allow any cheap shots on the QB and actually gave webb time to throw. too bad they had to wait until week 16 to play like this.

by FlFan on Dec 30, 2010 9:01 AM CST reply actions  

Poor Joe Webb

I feel bad for him already. By no fault of his own, all this praise is only setting him up for an even more glorious fall. You think TJack had it hard? Just wait.

Let’s be real, guys. Please?

by Jayrome007 on Dec 30, 2010 9:12 AM CST reply actions  

Nah

Reality is for the GM and the coaches.

I’m not going to be realistic about this until Objective Truth slaps me in the face with my overreaction. This is too fun.

by Arif Hasan on Dec 30, 2010 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

The New Collective Bargaining Agreement.........................

will not be struck until the 11th hour!

What does that mean?

No minicamps, no OTA’s, and a condensed training camp…………………………….

Only solution at that hour is of course………..Brett Favre!

Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!

Brett Favre will be back in 2011, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLVI, Guaranteed!

by REVENGE4FAVRE on Dec 30, 2010 9:33 AM CST reply actions  

LOL.......YES

A bird in the hand is worth about 10.99 at KFC and makes me lick my chops
Yummy!!!!!

by kdog69 on Dec 30, 2010 8:43 PM CST up reply actions  

matt stone and trey parker are just the best

i would also like to have the fumble be part of BB instead of AP, it only seems right.

by muffin man on Dec 30, 2010 3:20 PM CST reply actions  

Great Win!

Excellent post. I really enjoyed that one last night. As a long time reader and first time poster this year, I really have enjoyed the folks on this thread. Some really good comments and allot of purple passion. With that being said. Why isn’t Winfield in the Pro Bowl???? What a crime. As far as the coaching staff, i have to agree. I think we are seeing them jell a bit, and I like what I see. I agree, drop the dam zone blocking and drop the stupid and out dated west coast offensive. Also, drop the out dated tampa 2. I would like to see them move JA around the line a little more, why not use him like peppers? JOT.

by NCviking on Dec 31, 2010 9:31 AM CST reply actions  

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