Stock Market Report, Week 13
Okay, if you would've said, hey Ted, Percy Harvin is out, Steve Hutchinson is out, Ray Edwards is out, Brett Favre will be knocked out of the game after the third play from scrimmage, and Tarvaris Jackson is going to throw three interceptions to include one returned for a touchdown RIGHT AFTER Favre's pick and injury, my initial reaction would be to rifle through my silverware drawer for a really, REALLY sharp knife. I would then plunge it into my eyes, thereby blinding myself so I wouldn't have to witness the abomination of such a horrible loss that the 2-9 Bills would unleash to the Vikings.
Of course, you would stop me at the last moment and say WAAAAIT!!! THEY WON!!! BIg! Like 38-14 big!
I would then stab you for playing such a mean trick on me. Then we'd laugh and skip to Twogamewinningstreakland, where the streets are lined with gold, and rivers flow with German hefeweissen beer. Beer that doesn't make you have to pee every 10 minutes once you break the seal. Oh, and there's a hospital there, because I stabbed the hell out of you, and you might bleed out if you don't get medical attention. You'll need a new spleen, too, because I am an expert with the blade, bitches, but I hear Twogamewinningstreakland's hospital is better than the Mayo Clinic, and the nurses are HAWWWWT. But once you recovered, and you would recover, because no one ever dies in Twogamewinningstreakland, you could play with duckies, bunnies, and puppies all day long.
I love Twogamewinningstreakland. As a matter of fact, I wish...how I wish you were here:
What have we found--the same old fears, year after year. Wish you were here. SMR, after the jump.
Blue Chip Stocks:
Adrian Peterson, RB. Let's agree on a couple of things: Peterson is the greatest back in Vikings history, and probably NFL history if his career continues on the current trajectory, and I can leave him in the 'Blue Chip' category every week. Dude was a gametime decision...which means they didn't know if he was going to play until gametime, and he was a Freak. And not in a John Merrick Elephant Man point and gasp in horror sort of way. But in a reverent, head shaking, Randy Moss circa 1998-2000 sort of way. Can you name me one other back that has his combination of size, speed, power, and want to in NFL history? I can say, off the top of my head, Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders. I never saw Jim Brown play, but my Dad did. And he thinks Peterson is Jim Brown and Walter Payton, combined. Oh. my Dad is honorary mayor of Twogamewinningstreakland, by the way.
SIdney Rice, WR. A couple weeks ago, he was about the only one who gave a damn in the second half of the Green Bay game, and he BLEW UP Sunday against Buffalo. He bailed out Tarvaris Jackson on a spectacular touchdown reception, where he managed to catch the ball, wrestle it away from Donte Whittner, AND manage to stay in bounds while doing so. Vintage Sid. Made great catches all afternoon, and proved what a valuable member of the offense he is. Glad to see you back at 100%, Sidney.
Antoine Winfield, CB. Stevie Johnson is one of the best wide receivers you've never heard of, and although Winfield wasn't on him all day, he was on him a lot, and Johnson's line: 2 catches, 36 yards. Oh, Winfield also had as many yards in interception returns that Johnson had in receptions, and he absolutely BLEW UP Corey McIntyre (along with Ben Leber), forcing a fumble and killing a Bills drive inside the Vikings 30. I just love the way Antoine Winfield plays the game.
Special Teams Play. When they stink, we call them out, so when they're awesome, we need to call them out for that, too. Kick and punt coverage was superb all day long. They not only minimized field position for Buffalo all day, but they broke out the pain sticks when they hit people, causing a turnover and not giving Bills return guys room to breathe. When the offense got rolling, the ST prevented the big return that they've been known for and refused to allow the Bills to gain any momentum. P Chris Kluwe was phenomenal again, and Ryan Longwell made another FG. Great all around performance that deserved recognition.
Solid Investments:
Toby Gerhart, RB. Another workmanlike performance for the ever improving rookie. He was stopped a couple times for minimal gain, but he ended up with 54 yards on 12 carries, a very respectable day, and also one easily overlooked in view of the Freakishness that is Adrian Peterson. Gerhart seems to really be settling in to his role as the third down back, and is also an adept receiver coming out of the backfield. I really like this kid, and after his slow start, he's really starting to hit his stride.
Jared Allen, DE. Allen is finally coming out of the season long funk that enveloped pretty much the whole team in various levels of suckiness. Allen was so bad early on, I thought his name would have to be changed to 'Sucky McSuckysuck', but it would be too hard to spell on the jersey, seeing as how the equipment dudes can't spell Williams correctly. Uh, sorry, didn't mean to digress there. Allen was a disruptive beast all day long, registering a sack, a strip fumble, and getting into Ryan Fitzpatrick's head all day long. He was hearing footsteps from about the third play on, and Allen and the boys didn't call off the dogs until the game was well decided.
Tarvaris Jackson, QB. Look, if you're a Jackson hater, you'll be pissed about what I'm about to write, so it's probably best if you skipped this and went to the next paragraph. But thanks for making it this far! Okay, you've been warned. So, what do we have, the same old fears, year after year, like the song says? No, I don't think so. I liked what Jackson did Sunday, at least for the most part. Yeah, he threw three terrible, ugly picks, but I have to tell you, I liked what I saw. When he threw that early pick-six intended for Greg Camarillo, it could've been real easy for him to fold. But he didn't. He shook it off and lead the Vikings on five consecutive scoring drives, the first four for touchdowns. Yes, two of them were short fields after a turnover, but how many times have the Vikings gotten into the red zone and only come away with a field goal? No, I liked how he finished drives, and I loved the second TD pass to Sidney--he threw it to the only place where his guy could get it. I saw some ugly things, but I saw a lot of things to like Sunday, too.
Junk Bonds:
Madieu WIlliams, S. Williams just isn't getting it done. He's late on coverage, an average tackler, and seems like he's thinking one thing while the the other 10 guys are thinking something else.
Bernard Berrian, WR. You'd think with Harvin, Hank Baskett, and Greg Lewis, Bernard Berrian might announce his presence with authority. You'd think.
Buy/Sell:
Buy: Leslie Frazier's Vikings. I don't know what Leslie Frazier is selling, but the Vikings have bought it all, and are playing at a level that I frankly thought wasn't possible this season. Had this still been Chilly's team, I think that after TJ's early pick that the team would've folded. Frazier has this team playing with the attitude and intensity of 2009. They'll need it, as they play the Giants, Eagles and Bears in the next three weeks.
Buy: Joe Webb, Kick Returner. So let me set the scene. I pick up my Dad to come over and watch the game, and on the short drive over he asks if Harvin is playing. I tell him no, he's inactive. Well who's returning kicks? I tell him Joe Webb, the third string quarterback. My Dad asks if Frazier is letting Chilly coach the team. Webb returns the opening kickoff for 30 yards, Dad looks at me and says "that Frazier is one smart SOB". I love how my dad can pivot on a dime. He's shifty like that.
Sell: All those damn injured WR's. The reason Joe Webb returned kicks was because every other WR was hurt, it seemed. After Webb tweaked his hammy on that kick return, Albert Young was used. Please, let's not do that anymore, okay?
Sell: Chris DeGeare, LG. I tried to watch DeGeare a lot today, and it's not that I thought he was terrible, it's just that he's not Steve Hutchinson. I think, at least for a good part of their carries, Peterson and Gearhart gained yards in spite of their line, not because of them. I could be wrong, though.
Buy: A gallon of Kleinsauce, please. When Jim Kleinsasser catches a pass, children tremble in fear, because he is like a gored bull heading for the matador--he's seeing red and looks like 1,200 pounds of serious pissed off. He's not pretty, he's not fast, but damn it, I love the dude.
Sell: Turnovers. 38-14 is a great win, but man, those turnovers, against another team, could've been disastrous. It's something that needs to get cleaned up, as the Vikings have some much better competition in the next three weeks.
Buy: TJ's Mobility. I'm not saying Jackson should start over Brett Favre, but TJ has some mobility...well, a lot of mobility. There were two times on Sunday where TJ's mobility got the Vikings a first down, and if Favre had been in there, it would've been a sack. Simple fact.
Buy: Adrian Peterson's Final TD Run. He starts out running to the left, where the play was designed to go. There's a hole there, but it's filled by a linebacker. He stutters right, takes one step, jukes Paul Posluzny, takes another step and is at full speed, running away from everyone off to the right side of the field. The backside safety looks like he might have an angle on AP at about the 15, but AP just goes into 'Ludicrous Speed', and 43 yards later, TD. Unbelieveable.
Well, my friends, the Vikings have their first winning streak of the season and are closing in on .500. Playoff hopes are on life support, but they're still alive. With the way the Vikings have played, I'm beginning to think anything's possible, but they'll have to step up their game against the Giants and Eagles in the nest two weeks before finishing with the Bears and Lions. Les Frazier has this team headed in the right direction.
And if you think Twogamewinningstreakland is cool, wait until you feast your eyes on Threegamewinningstreakland.
It's beyond everything you could possibly imagine.
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Note to Childress for whatever pop warner team you coach next
This is how you coach players.
http://www.twincities.com/news/ci_16785469?source=rss&nclick_check=1
Returning to the sideline after the interception, coach Leslie Frazier buttonholed Jackson for a quick confidence boost.
“Les came to me and was like, ‘You got to put that behind you and just keep going. And a matter of fact, the next play is going to be a pass,’ " Jackson recounted. “So we came out next drive and called a pass play, the completion to Sidney. That was it. We started over and started putting points on the board.”
Jackson responded by completing six straight passes, including a 31-yard touchdown to Rice, who outmuscled two defenders to snatch the ball and stay inbounds to tie the score 7-7.
“Tarvaris has come a long way when it comes to his mind frame,” said Shiancoe. “Grown-ass man out there. There’s no space for kids out here. Once you realize that, something snaps. You’re around the beast, you might as well be a beast your damn self.”
Jackson wasn’t perfect but he was solid and, for my money, good enough to entice me to want to see more. I’d really like to see him get at least one more game before this season ends to see if he can “prove it” as they say in HORSE.
+81
That is a great quote. The dude is full of them. And he has his teammates and coach’s backs.
"Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthend, ambition inspired, and success achieved."
-Helen Keller
Nice job Ted
I’m officially the first Ted Glover fan club member.
As for TJ as a person who is not all on board with him being the starter, ever. I would have to bring up the three interceptions… That’s pretty bad in my humble opinion and honestly just as bad as what Favre was showing us. Anyway, I know that people will be crawling out of the cupboards with TJ is the man now so thought I’d just bring it up early.
Another great Stock Repost Ted!
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
on board wit ya..
..even if tjack didn’t throw those picks.. introducing a qb controversy just might derail their newfound confidence..you just dont know the ripple effects it might have..especially if he wouldn’t fare well next week vs nyg
keeping the chemistry strong at this point is paramount to stringing together a nice winning streak to close things out and get people excited for next year..
by immediately announcing that bf is starting if healthy , before he was even asked that question, just totally defused the situation.
frazier is really starting to grow on me ..he is saying and doing the right things.. and to think chilly was the one with the psych background..
we need him for 2011 and beyond, i’ll say it already!
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"the following statement is true:
the preceding statement was false" - george carlin
by BranFavrenton on Dec 6, 2010 8:18 AM CST up reply actions
I'm glad Frazier didn't freak after that pick 6 and allowed Tarvaris to try and work thru his mistakes.
Hopefully he got those INT’s out of his system and knocked some rust off because if Favre isn’t able to go next Sunday we’ll need TJ (Webb injured his hamstring) and I’m confident in our chances with whoever is playing QB against NYG.
It needs to be said
Last night during the Colts game I asked the little lady if she thought that anyone in Indianapolis was calling for Petyon Manning to be replaced after his 4 interception performance to which she replied with a resounding “NO WAY.” Then she asked who his backup is and I said hell if I know.
Point is that while Favre has struggled this year, he is still a first ballot hall of famer and the best QB on our roster. The whole dam team has struggled with one thing or another this year so it’s unfair to only point fingers at Favre.
TJack’s performance yesterday still confirms my opinion of him: He is too inconsistent to ever be anything more than a backup in this league. He can use his athletic ability to occasionally get you out of a jam, but in the long run he just doesn’t have the ability to be the guy.
"Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthend, ambition inspired, and success achieved."
-Helen Keller
Terrible analogy
The Colts would not pull Manning even after a terrible 4 INT performance because he is going to be their QB for the next 5-8 years.
Favre on the other hand is gone after the next 4 games. The chances of making the playoffs this year are practically nil. Favre, unlike Manning, is NOT the future of the Vikings.
Those of us who realize this are not necessarily saying that Jackson is the future, but at least he is a possibility; he is just 27 years old and has a lot of tools. At least he could be a temporary 1-2 year guy until the next guy (whoever he is) develops.
Meanwhile, Favre apologists will continue to make ridiculous arguments like this:
“…he is still a first ballot hall of famer and the best QB on our roster.”
1) What the hell does Favre being a HOF have to do with NOW? Favre’s past play will get him in the hall, but his present play is garbage. By your logic we should try to bring in Montana and Bradshaw to play QB.
2) By what measure is Favre “the best QB on the roster” this year? QB rating? No. TD / INT ratio? No. Winning percentage in games played? No.
Sorry if some of us choose to make analyzes based on facts and logic instead of homerism and hero-worship.
Amen...
.. to your post Ace991. Moreover, even if TJ is not the future starter, he still might be the future backup. Experience and a chance to see him perform is valuable. I hope we win out, but I think time for TJ, or even Joe Webb, is invaluable to us now. If we win out, great, but even then we almost for sure don’t make the playoffs at 9-7.
Let’s let Favre rest the shoulder on his text messaging arm.
by HammeroftheGods on Dec 6, 2010 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
+ 7
Jackson doesn’t wow many of us, but he didn’t lose the game for us yesterday either. Favre’s just so much of an emotional player that he gets down on himself when he’s having a bad day, and just makes it worse. Jackson showed everybody something when he came back in and played lights out for a few drives, at least, after that horrible first possession.
No, he ain’t the future of the Minnesota Vikings. But, he’s a valuable enough commodity to keep around for a little while longer as a back up, and maybe a bridge QB for some draftee next year.
That said, he deserves to start over the Old Man this week. I’m dissapointed that Frazier doesn’t agree.
by virginia viking on Dec 6, 2010 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
Seems to me
another analysis is – you hated him before he came here, hated him when he came here, tolerated him when he succeeded wildly last year, and hate him again for being as bad as the sum total of this years’ team -which as well is much less than last year.
lol you're comparing stats for Tjack to Favre for this season and Tjak has not even played 1 game
And the statistics that you choose to provide are obviously presented in a way that favors tjack.
How about this, who has more __________ tjack or Favre?
Yards?
TDs?
Games played?
Gray hairs?
Grand kids?
Here’s a stat for you. 5% of Brett’s passes were INT’s. 13% of tjacks passes were INT’s.
For someone that just threw 3 INT’s in his first almost full game, you sure have high praises.
For me though, I thought tjack did better than expected, but believe me I didn’t expect much.
Why are all the white commentators saying Farve should start and most the African-American commentators saying Jackson should start? Just wondering. Hand Petersen the ball All Day and it doesn’t matter.
by VikesFan4Life on Dec 7, 2010 11:32 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
That is an unnecessary comment...
just keep it moving no need to try and start any schisms here.
by midnightwonder on Dec 7, 2010 1:51 PM CST up reply actions
Well TJ is the defacto starter...
… next year until we get somebody else. We might as well have a good look at him, and see what he can do.
It wasn’t perfect, but we put up more points than we have been with Favre. And it wasn’t any worse than Favre has been, I think we can agree to that. I saw some good throws and good decisions too.
It’s encouraging to blow any team out like that. With 4 turnovers and still a blow out, extra impressive. The Steelers should have lost to that team last week. Remember that too.
Anyone not encouraged should have their head examined. Without Hutch + Harvin, and Peterson hobbled (God I would never have known, he was still a beast), just imagine if we get healthy?
I thought Berrian did ok, actually. I saw a couple of catches anyhow. But Sidney makes a huge difference. When we get Sid + Percy in there healthy, watch out.
I’d like to see use win at least 2-3 more games. Especially, I hope they have the Bears game circled. I think the Bears could lose their last 4 games.
by HammeroftheGods on Dec 6, 2010 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
And if your defense plays better than they have in the first 11 games and gives your offense a short field on a regular
basis.
Nonsense...
… that is just a bunch of crap. The QB rating of 69.6 has got nothing to do with the length of the field. The Vikings defense played well early in the season too.
You’ve just got to be deluding yourself to defend a guy with one of the worst QB ratings in the league. And you can’t tell me the Vikings team has been worse than the bottom teams in the league.
Hey, here’s a stat for you. Ryan Fitzpatrick, playing on one of the worst 2-3 teams in the league, has a 84.5 QB rating. He has 20TD and 11 INT.
So, if Ryan Fitzpatrick, a nobody average QB, can put up those numbers with the Buffalo Bills, are you seriously telling me that he couldn’t put up equal or better with the Vikings?
by HammeroftheGods on Dec 6, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
+1
Can we stop treating this debate over names/likeability it really should be about what is happening now not yesterday, not last year or 2 years ago when we lost in round 1 of the playoffs.
by midnightwonder on Dec 7, 2010 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
And Favre's
QB rating this year is lower than TJ for his career. What part of that isn’t clear?
by HammeroftheGods on Dec 6, 2010 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
See above
The Bills lost to the Bears, Steelers, Ravens and Chiefs by just 3 points each.
That 2-9 team could have just as easily been 5-6 with a few breaks. May not seem that great either, but it would have been better than we were.
TJ needs to sign a contract with us before he becomes teh defacto anything and he may want a fresh start somewhere else.
Maybe he’ll settle for a fresh start with a coach who will let him work thru his ups and downs.
TJax...
One improvement I see…
He’s throwing the ball where it can be intercepted, which is loads better than ‘monkey-feet time’.
But the game was Adrian Peterson’s! No ifs, ands, or buts. The Beast, indeed.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Dec 6, 2010 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
Jared Allen's Back!
According to Jared’s statement in the Strib, he finally figured out at that he was telegraphing at the line of scrimmage and that the opponents were sharing that little tip from O-line to O-line. Neat, eh? Once he stopped “flipping his hips” early, the Beast was Back. About damned time.
(Of course, it couldn’t possibly be because he needed 7 weeks to get his hair growing back, now could it?)
Great article, Ted. Your “Stock Report” format is starting to grow on me, I’m with you on all counts.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
I'm loving the way...
the Vikes are playing as an inspired team. The chemistry seams completely different from three weeks ago. This was the first time in quite a while that I truly enjoyed watching them play. I was just giddy. Sidney was exciting, T-Jack was out running defenders, Allen’s hair is growing back, and AP was Loooooooose!!!!
We have tons to work on (TJ getting in sync with the Wideouts… which should get better with more first team reps) All in all… I loved this game… and loved the breakdown once again Ted. Thumbs up!
Vikings Valhalla .com
two things:
Adrian Peterson is one freaking spectacular football player. Sidney Rice is another freaking spectacular football player.
"Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthend, ambition inspired, and success achieved."
-Helen Keller
Play calling
BUY Play calling!!! We need to give props to Bevell and Company. Do you really think Chilly would have turned TJ loose like that? I think not. Get post TED!!!
Webb
wow, did i read the box score correctly when i saw that webb had a kick off return for 30 yards? we all wanted to see webb get on the field somehow, but how many of us actually thought of him as a kick returner? has any qb in the nfl ever been used as a kick returner? i have to applaud the coaching staff for even thinking of it. i doubt childress would have allowed that.
GO VIKES!!!
by indianavikesfan on Dec 6, 2010 10:54 AM CST reply actions
Necessity is the mothers of all invention
With Harvin out, the staff was looking for answers. Glad they put Webb in.
Who’s the Vikings’ trainer by the way? I know injuries happen but seems like the Vikings have more than their fair share of non-contact injuries this season. Griffen, Cook, Berrian and Webb come to mind right away. I guess I’d suggest a bit more stretching. I remember watching Favre stretch on the field before a game last year. I think he did a couple of lunges and then basically quit and just walked about and talked to people. At 40???
Eric Sugarman is the Vikes Athletic Trainer
And has been so for over 10 years. I’ve only heard good things about him from players and staff. Can’t imagine that it’s his fault for these non-contact injuries. I think that’s more on the shoulders of Lady Luck – or maybe Lady Bad Luck.
WR, CB, K & P of the Minnesota Machine
Very true
But if there is an area of the staff to look at, it would be the strength and conditioning coaches.
"Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthend, ambition inspired, and success achieved."
-Helen Keller
There are actually a large percentage of trainers (especially in the NFL which is right on the cutting edge of research) that have largely abandoned pre-game stretching all together. Recent research has suggested that it may actually cause more injuries than it prevents.
At any rate, your examples are not very good. Everson Griffen is not even injured. I’m going to assume you mean Cedric Griffin, whose knee injury was absolutely a contact injury. Cook’s knee injuries were also contact injuries. Berrian has had hamstring issues his entire career so it’s hard for me to blame that on the trainer. Webb just got injured, that does happen sometimes (especially when he hasn’t been active for a game in his entire NFL career). The real question is how he bounces back from it and how much time (if any) he misses.
That’s not to mention the near miraculous recoveries made by EJ Henderson and Cedric Griffin (before he injured his other knee), in which Sugarman played a large role.
That said, I was very glad they got Webb into the game. Apparently they had planned to use him more at WR and in the Wildcat but he got hurt covering a punt.
“We had a package for him. It obviously didn’t unfold,” Vikings coach Leslie Frazier said.
Brad Smith of the New York Jets
Is their primary return man and hes their backup qb if I’m not mistaken. In fact, He has a touchdown This year where his shoe fell off and he continued to run for 40 yards
What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your entire rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Dec 6, 2010 2:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Brian Robison For Starting
This guy is a beast. He never takes a play off and compliments Allen as the left bookend at DE. Apparently Jared is growing on him as he appears to be sporting the beginnings of a mullet himself. Turn him loose and let him play.
BTW Ted, nice touch on using “Wish You Were Here” as the theme song as it was Pink Floyd’s tribute to Syd Barrett. One of my all time favorites by the band.
I don't know if I'd go that far
But it definately shows that we have quality depth at that position. I think we should definately start to see more of Robison going forward.
"Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthend, ambition inspired, and success achieved."
-Helen Keller
Kidding.
I like the idea of rotating some players so that defensive coordinators are kept guessing. I believe Julius Peppers plays on both L and R sides sometimes.
Dam I just saw that now
Dam I just saw that now again
"Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthend, ambition inspired, and success achieved."
-Helen Keller
It's called...
‘DEEKING’
look it up… he’s the king of it.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Dec 6, 2010 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
LMAO!!!!
It’s a weird bug for some people.
Sometimes I’ll type maybe two or three sentences, but my post will repeat the 2nd and or 3rd sentence over and over a few times.
Not sure what makes it happen, but with my typing style and my grammar, something is making it happen.
I don't know if I'd go that far
But it definately shows that we have quality depth at that position. I think we should definately start to see more of Robison going forward.
"Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthend, ambition inspired, and success achieved."
-Helen Keller
Someone called Madieu mildew yesterday
I thought that was a great name for him until I realized mildew can cover something Madieu can’t.
by SouthernNorseman on Dec 6, 2010 11:44 AM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
damn, way too funny , i just spewed water on my comp. reading this :0)
Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.
~Mark Twain
Ha!
Freudian slip on the ‘ole Soldier Field turf there. But yeah, mildew covers something, and Madieu just can’t.
Whoever told him he was part of the Williams Wall should be spanked.
by virginia viking on Dec 6, 2010 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
Lmao
Why isnt this green?
What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your entire rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Dec 6, 2010 5:56 PM CST up reply actions
Buy: Fred Pagac as the new defensive coordinator (once Frazier has been named the new head coach that is). I know the true test is coming in the next 2 weeks for his unit, but they really have been getting after the QB and creating turnovers the last 2 weeks with Pagac calling the shots.
"Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthend, ambition inspired, and success achieved."
-Helen Keller
I'm glad I'm not seeing much TJack love on here...
I thought he looked like the same TJACK as the last couple of years… makes some decent throws and evades the rush nicely AT TIMES, but when he’s bad, he’s awful. If it were not for Rice’s amazing 1st TD catch, I wonder how the game would have turned out, as that really set things in motion for a turnaround. TJACK really should get no credit for moving this offense any more than maybe 50 yards, the rest basically coming from Rice, Peterson, Gerhart and our D giving them great field position.
Still like a beat up Favre over a Still-Not-Improved-Enough TJack.
by San Diego Viking on Dec 6, 2010 2:04 PM CST reply actions
Favre playing with the same guys...
… has a QB rating significantly below TJ for his career. That includes 2006-2007 when the Vikings weren’t as good in any respect, and TJ was a green rookie.
Favre has consistently this year been the worst QB statistically. Ryan Fitzpatrick has better numbers playing for a Bills team that is clearly far inferior to the VIkings.
TJ may not be the QB of the future, but Favre is definitely done after this year.
Why not give TJ a chance to demonstrate what he’s got on the field, rather than surmise it based on what he did 2+ years ago?
Even with the mistakes from yesterday, one game is not enough data points to reach a conclusion.
Favre has 11 games with a QB rating of about 69. I’ve seen enough of that. We’ve won more games than the Buffalo Bills with worse QB play. We are a far better team even with crappy QB play. Favre has no excuse for the extremely bad play this year, period.
by HammeroftheGods on Dec 6, 2010 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
You remember back
Favre is definitely done after this year
to all the Jets people and all of America saying that very thing before he came to MN. I don’t think he’ll play again, but I don’t look at him as out to pasture.
Well true...
… but I think anyone who signs him to $10+ million contract now would be certifiably insane.
by HammeroftheGods on Dec 6, 2010 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
He barely came back this year
And that was after a career year and a near Super Bowl appearance. You think he’ll come back after one of his worst seasons, no playoff appearance and a nice scandal to boot?
Throw M.Williams in the trash!
As far as I’m concerned, we’re better off leaving his position open and playing with 10 men on the field….Same could be said about L.Sheppard. I mean when those two are on the field at the same time, we’re basically playing with 9 men on the field. :)
T-Jack!
I’ll shrug those INT’s off because it was his first game in a long time, but I’m not really sure I liked what I saw. I didn’t see much improvement n his mechanics. He’s still making too many unbalanced throws.
With that said, think he’s the better option over Favre.
it's a wash at this point...
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Dec 6, 2010 7:41 PM CST up reply actions
I agree about Williams...
… but only to a point, and that is that he is vastly overpaid. However, he has 3 more years on his contract. We’d need to get a better safety before we could waive him, and currently that guy doesn’t exist on our roster. Abdullah perhaps, but then the other guy is Tyrell Johnson who is no better.
If Chris Cook weren’t so dang fragile, we could maybe make him a safety, but we obviously even then need to draft a corner.
I would say, corner/safety has to be a fairly high priority in draft/ free agency, any way you slice it. We have some lousy, overpaid players (Williams), and then some guys we can’t keep on the field consistently (Cook, Griffin).
Asher Allen isn’t the guy either. Sheppard obviously isn’t more than a temporary guy. Like Frank Walker.
by HammeroftheGods on Dec 6, 2010 11:50 PM CST up reply actions
Well he is learning from the best....
Have you honestly looked at Favre’s mechanics.
by midnightwonder on Dec 7, 2010 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
Week 14 Games.
After 13 weeks, the 32 teams that comprise the NFL, Win/Loss records are scatter into 10 groups from Group 1 of New England & Atlanta at 10-2-0, to Group 10 where Carolina is at 1-11-0 (all by it’s lonesome)!
Group 1 (10-2-0): Atlanta, & New England.
Group 2 (9-3-0): Chicago, New Orleans, NY Jets, & Pittsburgh.
Group 3 (8-4-0): Philadelphia, NY Giants, Green Bay, Baltimore, & Kansas City.
Group 4 (7-5-0): Tampa Bay, &Jacksonville.
Group 5 (6-6-0): St. Louis, Seattle, Miami, Indianapolis, Oakland, & San Diego.
Group 6 (5-7-0): Washington, Minnesota, Cleveland, Houston, & Tennessee.
Group 7 (4-8-0): Dallas, &San Francisco.
Group 8 (3-9-0): Arizona, &Denver.
Group 9 (2-8-0): Detroit, Buffalo, & Cincinnati.
Group 10 (1-9-0): Carolina
New England (1) @ Chicago (2) Must watch late game on Sunday.
Philadelphia (3) @ Dallas (7) Even home field advantage will not save the Cowboys.
NY Giants (3) @ Minnesota (6) Do you believe in miracles, well this is not the game to start believing.
Green Bay (3) @ Detroit (9) Turn out the lights, the party over…..
Baltimore (3) @ Houston(5), Baltimore all the way.
Kansas City (3) @ San Diego Even home field advantage will not save the Chargers.
Tampa Bay (4) @ Washington (6) Only a snow blizzard will save the Redskins.
St. Louis (5) @ New Orleans (2) St. Louis needs to load up on lots of Voodoo Spells…..
Seattle (5) @ San Francisco (7) Watch the Patriots vs Bears instead.
Miami (5) @ NY Jets (2) Cold weather the Dolphins will Sushi before the game is at half-time.
Indianapolis (5) @ Tennessee Home Field advantage is Titans only hope.
Oakland (6) @ Jacksonville (4) Oakland is not use to playing these early games.
Cleveland (6) @ Buffalo (9) Another who really gives a hoot game.
Denver (8) @ Arizona (8) “Toilet Bowl game of the Week”, just might be interesting to watch.
Cincinnati (9) @ Pittsburgh (2) Another “No Brainer” on what not to watch, to see who flushes who!
Carolina (10) @ Atlanta (1) Carolina should forfeit all their remaining games and the players seek some other professions.
Everyone we meet in life give us happiness, some by their arrival, others by their departure!

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