Bid Favre Adieu

1) Saying the Viking should acquire a ‘young QB that will play at a hight level for years to come’’ is a lot costlier and more difficult to prognosticaete into reality. If it were doable with the draft slot/ player retention we have right now, we’d have already done it.

2) Brett Favre has his best season ever at the age of 40. You can’t blame that game solely on him. AP has to shoulder some fault along with Chilly.

3) The ’’good’’ teams dont have young QBs all the time. This super bowl is Manning Vs. Brees. I’d hardly call them young. In fact, the only QB from the NFC in the playoffs to be considered ’’young’’ would be Rodgers and perhaps Romo.

4) Favre obviously still has it, and our window isn’t 5 years from now. Five years from now we will be rebuilding and have an entirely different team than today. Our window is NOW. Get it done. I’d sacrifice 3-4 seasons of mediocre play for one super bowl victory.

Are you serious? If our team was mediocre at best, than it would maybe be a decent idea.
The problem with the QB issue as of now, is that we don’t want to put a mediocre & inexperienced QB at the helm. We have too much talent to do something stupid like that.
We need to have an experienced QB who can read blitzes, run all the plays and understand what the defenses are bringing. An inexperienced QB has to learn that on the go and mold into that style of play. We need someone who’s accurate and can manage not only the clock but the game. These are things Favre was good at.

If we improve our O-line to be great at Run-blocking and pass-blocking, we’d give the protection Favre would need & the holes for AP to run.
We need AP to work on holding onto the ball better. He’s proven he is prone to fumbles, so you know that defenders work on that especially with AP.
Defenses may not be so hard on the run with 8 men in the box with AP anymore if we have Favre.. They may be worried about the pass just as much as the run.

I believe, if we build up our O-line and improve our defense, Favre will likely return. He’ll get the protection he needs, the time he needs to throw, and not have to worry so much about playing from behind because the defense gives too much up.

We’ve had our share of defensive collapses this year, where the game was on the line after our big-lead take. (I.e., 49ers, Ravens, etc.)

As far as that game went versus the Saints. Favre should of had his 1 interception call back, and the other interception would never of happened if it wasn’t for a 12-man huddle call. Not to mention, Favre had a wrapped up ankle.

The only thing that would bother me after seeing the pictures of that, is if we had won, would Favre be able to play in the Superbowl??

That is what I wonder…

I have been a Viking fan since Bud Grant roamed the sideline and our games were played at the old outdoor stadium. I watched this team become a force with great players like Allan Page, Jim Marshall & Carl Eller. Do you guys really want a 41 year old QB with a history of choking in the playoffs to guide this team? I’d prefer a good young QB that can guide us for many years and not have to rely on an Ex-Packer QB that only cares about his stats. Don’t ever call me a troll after all the years I have been cheering for this team.

If Favre isn’t the answer then what is? Get a young quarterback? Mark Sanchez and Joe Flacco notwithstanding, there’s a reason why rookie quarterbacks usually have to take a few years to pull themselves up, and do you really want to have to wait for a rookie to mature while everybody else on the team continues to get older, especially the defense, most of which isn’t exactly young.

Favre is the best chance we’ve got to win right now, and this is probably the best team we’re going to get for a while. Do you really want to wait a few years for a quarterback to develop, only to have the defense need to be rebuilt by the time he’s ready, then have to get a new running back and o-line by the time the defense is rebuilt, and keep that kind of vicious circle going?

In the era of free agency, there tend to be rather small windows where everything on the team is at a high enough level to pull off a super bowl, and we’re in that kind of window now. I’d prefer to at least try to grab that chance rather than let it slip by trying to retool for the future.

Furthermore, even if you don’t think Favre is the answer this year, here’s a good reason for keeping him around. Matt Hasselbeck went to the Super Bowl and had several outstanding years, and he was a guy who sat and learned under Favre. Kurt Warner, I’m sure you know him, was a Favre backup at one point. Aaron Rogers has had two good years so far, and I’m sure he’ll be good for several years down the road, guess what he did for his first couple of years? Sit and learn behind Favre. Even Aaron Brooks and Mark Brunell were starters for several seasons and did have a few decent years, and they were Favre backups.

The dude is a quarterback factory, he keeps churning out backups that are at least journeyman level NFL quarterbacks, even if you don’t think he’s going to get us to a super bowl, having T-Jack or anyone else they decide to bring in sit behind him and learn can only be a good thing.

A rookie QB starting would not be able to utilize the talent around him from the start. Favre has had a chance to get to know his receivers.. He got better with that as the season went on. He started more-so as a game-manager in the beginning.

From how I viewed it, he was doing a lot of hand-offs with 1st & 2nd downs, and passing on 3rd to get the first down. Most of his passes were 1-10 yards. His accuracy was great for those short distances. And he rarely was taking shots down the field.
As the season progressed, he started to go deeper with his passing as if he seemed to understand his receivers better.
If you were to go back and watch every game, you’ll probably notice how he gradually went deeper in his passing, and not only deeper, but more frequent with his passing.
I easily recall this, because I know like most of us, we were weary of Favre in the beginning. I was thinking to myself, okay, if he can’t take a few shots down the field, or even be successful, was he really worth it?
Well than games got harder, we took early leads and defenses collapsed. Than the 49ers game came and he threw that miracle pass.. Ever since than, he started to become a more frequent passer.

The problem with how I view the play calling was how predictable it was. Run on 1st & 2nd, and throw on 3rd. If you can’t complete the 3rd down pass, punt the ball.
But, maybe this made upcoming teams constantly think we were a heavy run-first team.
When we played the Bengals, who had a great defense this year, we ran the ball on them, and ran it a lot. They probably were thinking we would pass like them on crazy.
That was a fun game to watch. Seeing people like even C. Taylor shine on the run and the pass and same went for AP.

Needless to say, we came to what we need to do in the late part of the season. Do what it takes to win, whether it be running, or passing. I don’t want to wait til the late part of a season with a rookie QB to understand what works best.
T. Jack did not get enough experience this season for me to feel real comfortable with him. I know he would be considered our 2nd best option. Favre would be our first.
If T. Jack started the season and had a great start, I believe he would bring the confidence to the team that is needed.

People like Rice & Shiancoe know that they are good. I think that Berrian wasn’t too fond of Favre, because he sort of took away from what he thought would be a great season for him alone. I think that T. Jack loved to throw to Bernard often, and Favre spread the ball around too much.
I loved the Favre to Rice, Favre to Harvin, and Favre to Shiancoe options. They were great, and most of them made amazing plays.

If we have anyone but Favre at the helm, I’ll feel slightly worried about the season, but optimistic. With T. Jack, I believe we could have a great winning season, but could he get it done come playoffs? I believe Favre could get it done come playoff time.

I think we’re capable of beating every team out there with Favre. We just need to correctly setup a strategy for each team, and have our defenses step up when needed.
it’ll be interesting to see what happens for next season, with the draft, the possible return of Favre and P. Williams, and how our schedule looks.

Lots of contributing factors will play a roll I think in the return of Favre. How the schedule lays out, (Which teams are away and which teams are home games).
How the draft plays out, and who we sign again or let go and sign new
If all looks good and Favre feels like he can go for 1 more shot and fullfil his 2 year contract.. We should be good.

I believe, as much as Favre knows about football, if he were to come back again, it is because he knows we have a GREAT chance at getting to the Superbowl.
I believe if he doesn’t think that, it is because he doesn’t think we can with our talent.

I agree with alot of reply’s here, if not Farve we ned to stick with T-Jack, maybe he could run for a 1st down or two if needed, love to have Bret back, but if not ,T-Jack is the young qb who is being developed, alot of time spent on this guy, and after playing behind Bret for a season i bet he is learned alot. If Favre returns GREAT, but if not, i think T-Jack can get it done. Going after young qb is deffinately not the answer, this years draft class sucks.
Cant wait till superbowl is over so we can start next season, only hrs away now
SKOL

The only good thing the Bears organization did was getting Jay Cutler and keeping him away from the Vikings. Thank God.

The bummer is Cutler’s best years will be with a sad-sack defense, once we rebuild after Lovie the Dummy is gone. Cutler for AP, anyone?

Bears Fans are in hell right now, so enjoy Viking fans. Lovie the Dummy running one kind of defense and the McCaskey family holding on to dollars.

We’re doomed, but at least we don’t wear purple.

One guy – was all in hopes of Favre not returning. He thought he was selfish to an extent and would not benefit the team.

The other guy – was in hopes of his return and figures that the team has their best chance with Favre.

I was the outside bystander who favored Favre’s return. Now the guy who opposed Favre’s return admitted he had one hell of a season, but he didn’t think it was a good idea for him to come back. His statements were like “This isn’t the Minnesota Favres, etc. etc.”
But how many times do you hear thing like Manning and the Colts, Brees and the Saints, Favre and the Vikings.. QBs lead teams….. They are the leader of the offense..

I don’t think their really is any defensive position that holds off as a leader position for each team, I think it all depends on the teams best defensive player.

Brett hasn’t been in a Super Bowl since 1997 and has been subpar in all his playoff appearances since then. He is great in the regular season but when the playoffs begin he will always make the bonehead play that costs his team a chance at the SB. Just look at his playoff performances since 2001 and see what I mean. There are some good QB’s available in this year’s draft and the Viking Management should draft one. A 41 year old mistake prone QB won’t get us to the Super Bowl and it is time to realize that fact.

Yes puddnhead you keep getting my point until it sinks in or is that why they call you puddnhead?

AP has become a liability for the Vikings with all those fumbles. We have a solid backup RB and should trade AP for a couple high draft picks. We could then draft a good young QB and a decent CB. AP can go fumble for somebody else.