Success Depends On Your Definition
by Christopher Gates on Feb 8, 2010 9:07 PM CST
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Another NFL season has come and gone, with the great moments that the 2009 season provided Minnesota Viking fans slowly starting to fade into the ether. By many measures, the Vikings had a successful season, finishing the year with a 12-4 record and blowing out the Dallas Cowboys in the playoffs before getting painfully close to a Super Bowl berth. The development of players like Percy Harvin and Sidney Rice, the continued dominance of the Minnesota defense, particularly the front seven, and the whole Brett Favre magic carpet ride will make this one a season that Viking fans will talk about for a long time, for various reasons.
And yet, Viking fans feel a sense of frustration. . .at least, this one does. Why? Because another season has gone by without the Vikings reaching the ultimate goal, and with that continue their reign as the most successful franchise in pro sports to not get to the top of the mountain.
In the past decade, we've seen the New Orleans Saints. . .a team that didn't have a single winning record in their first 20 years of existence. . .a team that didn't win a playoff game until their 34th NFL season. . .a team whose owner not five years ago attempted to use the single worst natural disaster in American history to leverage a move to Los Angeles for his team. . .and a team that has a grand total of five post-season victories in their entire existence. . .hoist the Lombardi Trophy.
Prior to that, we saw the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. . .a team that lost the first 26 games they took the field for. . .a team that has the second-worst winning percentage in NFL history (ahead of only the Houston Texans). . .and a team that has a total of six post-season wins. . .lift the Lombardi Trophy as well.
But the Minnesota Vikings. . .the franchise with the fifth-highest winning percentage in the history of the NFL. . .the team that has made more post-season appearances since they entered the NFL in 1961 than any team not named the Dallas Cowboys. . .the team that has played in more playoff games since 1961 (45 of them) than every team except Dallas (58) and Pittsburgh (51). . .a team that has produced ten Hall of Fame players (and it should be/soon will be 11). . .a team that has had a sub-.500 record only 13 times in their 49-season existence. . .has never been afforded the ultimate victory.
Since 1990, every team currently in the National Football Conference has represented the NFC in the Super Bowl at least once. Except the Detroit Lions. Oh, and the Minnesota Vikings.
The last time the Minnesota Vikings participated in the Super Bowl, yours truly had just reached the tender age of three. Three months, that is.
All of the above information is damn near impossible for my mind to reconcile. How the heck is it that a team can have such a high level of success. . .yet not have the level of "success" of the Saints and Buccaneers of the football world? It damn near makes me sick just to think about. Particularly watching last night's game with the constant thought in the back of my mind that that could have been us. . .hell, that should have been us.
Honestly, it's not even the fact that they've never gotten to the top before. . .it's the fact that they've found so many new, different, and exciting ways to kick us in the teeth just before the ultimate goal is reached. From "Hail Mary" passes to dropping passes at the goal line to perfect kickers missing field goals to losing conference championship games by 41 points to twelve men in the huddle. . .it never ends.
The best part?
That we're all going to get hyped up for the limited free agency season that's in store for the Vikings. . .and get excited for the draft. . .and for training camp. . .and whatever the Brett Favre circus brings us. . .and we'll all be lined up next September, wondering whether or not the Vikings will come up with another new and creative method to rip our hearts out. . .
Or whether or not we'll finally get to piss off the other 13 NFL teams that have never gotten a taste of a Super Bowl victory.
Does it still hurt like hell? Yep, it sure does. But just like every other year, we'll get over it and move on. And we're going to get to the same level of "success" that so many other NFL teams have gotten to. Why? Because we damn well deserve it, that's why, and screw anyone that says or thinks otherwise, because they're wrong.
I'll damn sure be here when it happens. I have a feeling most of you will be, too.
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Let me channel my inner Howard Dean
YYYYYEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Skol, baby, SKOL!!
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
Never Stay Down
No matter what they do, no matter how often they say we should give up. Every year, the Vikings, and this fan, will always stand back up again.
We all know who was the best team in the NFL in 1969, 1975, 1998, and 2009, even if that team didn’t win the Lombardi trophy. It was the only team that wears Purple and Gold.
I try not to think too much about what happened this year. Better to focus on the lessons, and the #1 lesson that I want the Minnesota Vikings to learn is this; Never, ever, put your fate in the hands of the referees, leave nothing to chance. Run up the score as high as it will go and let the complainers be damned. But most of all… don’t fumble, don’t throw interceptions, don’t turn over the ball before it’s time.
This is the Viking’s 50th anniversary season coming up. If ever was there was an appropriate time for the final victory to come, it’s now. I’ll be here for it.
SKOL VIKINGS, now, and forever!
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
Super Bowl
You’ll get your victory. Why? Because Brett Favre will come back. He will win and lift that trophy one more time before he retires. The Vikings will have their moment. Here’s your pre-congratulations:
Yay.
Seriously, I’m sick of this NFL crap (sorry about the language). The refs messing up games and all that other stuff. I just left a nasty post over at acme. The Packers are my favorite team and I’m sick of everything right now. I like Favre. I wish the best for him whatever he desires. But I wish he comes back and wins a trophy. I want everyone who ignorantly despises him to shut their mouths and eat their words of hate. Mostly, I know that when Favre retires, I know there is little reason left for me to watch in this corrupt NFL. So that is why I know he will come back and win one more. So you guys will get your victory.
It is destiny.
by starmark on Feb 8, 2010 10:30 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
A Packer fan that's optimistic about our chances?
Well, hell, if that doesn’t solidify it, nothing’s going to.
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by Christopher Gates on Feb 8, 2010 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
It's not only snowing....
But apparently hell hath finally frozen over as well.
A Pack fan saying we’re destined to win the Super Bowl…
Who woulda thunk it?
The pass interference on Leber was bogus
Leber never make contact with the reciever at all. Yet that is waht put the Saints in FG range to win the game. Bullshit, but with 5 turnovers the game never should have come to that.
Hard one(loss) to swallow, thats what she said.
After that loss I felt like "token 2 or more"
Just to calm down.
Hard one(loss) to swallow, thats what she said.
Not the same thing
The guy may claim that the Packers are his favorite team, but he is clearly not a Packers fan.
The two are not synonymous!
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The glass is more than half-full.
Corrupt is right!
I have never seen so much one sided call. I did not watch much of the SB. Each time i look up their is a bias call for the saints. NFL YOU SHOULD BE ASHAME OF YOURSELF. They want the saints to win so much that they willing to cheat.
Saints can bite me.
I’m not sure about any cheating but they sure got every questionable call coming down the streach. I’ve heard it said from past players on Superbowl teams that it takes a little luck.
The Saints have a good football team. I know they play in a weak division & they got the home field advantage but we blew our chance at home field. Hey they caught the breaks they needed to get over the hump. We need a take no prisoners atittude this season. If all of us here on the DN know we have the best team how do you think our players feel. We know we blew it, now we are going to take what is rightfully ours. No Mercy. Sept 9 is Hammer time.
September 9th, 2010
The time the crush our enemies, see them driven before us and hear the lamentations of their women.
Thanks very much
for saying very well,what’s been in my head. So much so that I have to put my ’rec’d’ stamp of approval on it.
To be expected...
They toasted me over at Acme. I wasn’t banned or anything. I didn’t say anything rude or obscene. I simply gave my heartfelt sentiments about the NFL and the Packers. It’s weird that I feel closer to you Vikings fans right now than i do to Packers fans. It will all end when Favre is no longer your QB. I’ll have little interest in watching Vikings games at that point (or any NFL games for a while). Of course if the Packers make it to the playoffs…I might switch the channel to the game. I can’t just quit cold turkey. Who am I kidding. I’ll probably catch all the news about free agency and the draft too… If only Ted Thompson and that evil staff were gone! You can have Ted Thompson once Favre retires. I’d even be happy to take Brad Childress off your hands in return. You guys usually complain about him. I’d be happy with a couple years of Childress as long as we get a better GM.
So...
… you’re a frontrunner. Just admit it. And have the decency to commit to being one long term instead of sneaking back in a pretending you were always a Packer fan when Favre retires…
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Feb 9, 2010 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
Don't hate because he's found the light.
Actually he’s a Favre supporter. You can tell he still likes the Pack very much just disagrees with how things worked out. Everyones got an opinion.
Yep. Everyone's got one...
… and he’s entitled to it. Some fans change team allegiances all the time, and it’s not like it’s morally wrong to do so or anything. I like it when they admit what they are. But you’re right that it’s not a big deal. I just get annoyed when they act like the reason they left is because of some morally questionable behavior by the team that somehow signifiies a fundamental change in the league they once knew and loved. It’s business and it’s football. Always has been. Suggesting (even tongue in cheek) that a GM who cuts a player you like is “evil” is beyond ridiculous…
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Feb 10, 2010 9:06 AM CST up reply actions
okay, here we go...
I never meant that Ted Thompson is literally evil (certainly, not to be taken seriously). If you read the comment I made, you will notice that I did not make it in reference to Favre at all. The next sentence I talked about Favre’s potential retirement and you might have jumped to conclusions. TT (and McCarthy and Murphy) may have lied to the fans in order to win the PR war with Favre (and succeeded), and he is not well suited for his position as a GM. My comment was directed more towards his capacity to fulfill his role as GM. Yet that does not make him evil. We are all human. We all make choices that some other people might not like. No one is perfect. It is not my place to call anyone truly evil. The word itself is subject to definitions that are questionable by viewpoint anyway. So we come down to the opinion thing. “Everyone’s got an opinion.” Right? What do we base those opinions on? Maybe that is what we should focus on. Based on what I have seen, Ted Thompson is not a good GM. To me the evidence is clear. Does that make me a bad Packers fan? I do not believe so. Because I like Brett Favre and want him to win a championship even though he is playing for the Vikings, does that make me less of a Packers fan? To some psycho-Packers fruitcake nut-jobs, maybe. To those guys I say, have another beer and kill what few brain cells you have left.
I have the opinion that the NFL is corrupt. If some people cannot see this truth, then those people have not paid much attention to the NFL lately. Either that or they are naive in the extreme. Yet here is another sad truth. This truth is that both the Packers and the Vikings are part of the NFL. They belong to the same system that is corrupt. That is right; my favorite team is (by association) as corrupt as the rest of the NFL. If you want to crucify me for what I see, then do as you wish.
I have nearly worshipped the Packers since my childhood. I have not wavered in this devotion. As an adult, I have witnessed racism, greed, drugs and cheating in the NFL. All of this corruption continues and few people seem to mind. As long as the money keeps flowing, the rest of that garbage will keep happening. Why should I care? because my children watch this game. My son wants to be like Brett Favre. He was born the year the Packers won the Super Bowl. The rest of my kids like the Packers (with the exception of one who keeps changing his mind—once he liked the Cowboys and I nearly had a heart attack—another exaggeration, please don’t call the paramedics).
I have never switched allegiances. I am not a Vikings fan. I appreciate the devotion the Vikings fans have for their team. They are courteous to me when I am over here posting on this site. Many people might argue that the NFL is just fine. I am overreacting. Perhaps they are right. My instincts as a parent might be kicking in and I am being overprotective. If that is the case, then I need to take some time off away from the game to put some things in perspective. I want to do just that when Favre retires for good. Again, this does not mean have stopped being a Packers fan. I was born and raised in Wisconsin for most of my life. The Vikings may be rivals, but their fans are human. I accept them as such.
Please do not question my allegiance or who I am at all. You do not know me. I do not know you and I do not make any judgements about you. Take care and enjoy life.
I'll question what I like, thanks.
Though I’ll point out I didn’t question your value as a human being. Having said that, I’ll drop it. I suspect the Viking fans to whom this site is dedicated are tired of watching two people identifying themselves as Packer fans argue, particularly on this issue.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Feb 10, 2010 5:25 PM CST up reply actions
Chilly da man
Constatnly improving his team and turned around the culture in the locker room from day one.
Hard one(loss) to swallow, thats what she said.
another "missing rings" team
And another game to show for the next 10+ years. Really upsets me. It’ll be hard to forget, but there’s worse things to worry about.
by koooolaid1087 on Feb 9, 2010 12:28 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Captured my feeling on what if...
Watching that SB game Sunday I too could not help thinking that the in spite of the combination of errors on our part and bad ref calls in the NFC Championship game we kept it close and it went to OT. Take away the over-aggressive (read dirty) hits on Favre though and that game was ours (and I think the Lombardi could have been as well)…no need for OT at all. Yes we should have been there, not the Saints.
Such thoughts do not change things unfortunately, and this fact is tough to take no doubt for us all, but I am here to say that anything worth having is worth fighting for again and again. Perhaps losing battles is a necessary part of the sweetness we will experience, when we win the war – eventually (meaning yes we will get that long elusive SB W at some point). To think otherwise is self-defeating…
Now the question arises: Are we tenacious enough to stick with it as fans and as a team? I believe so…Yes the frustration is there that Gonzo speaks of and I think is present in us all, to a greater or lesser degree. Perhaps these have led to some of the over-reacting and posts/counterposts/accusations/etc. that I read about (but would not have known about were it not for the post by WVViking)….
The current season is over, lots of Monday morning quarterbacking we can do, but I would rather look forward, let the wounds heal, and reflect on the high points of this season, of which there were many. Next season we still have the core of this team that should have won the NFC Championship game in place. With or without Favre (hope with) we can do this and take the final one as well!
I suggest we all move on and get ready for another year of Minnesota Nice (or whoop ass depending on your mindset) on the field (with the exception of the coming battle against NO, in which I am sure we will exact some atonement for that NFC Championship game). The battles next year will be tougher, but I think we will be tougher. as well, so this will balance out .
OK last rallying calls to officially end the season (in caps for R4Fs sake lol): (1) GO VIKES (2) COME BACK FARVE (3) TAKE A CLINIC OVER THE OFFSEASON PLEASE AD TO LEARN TO PROTECT THAT BALL (4) CAN’T WE ALL GET ALONG AS WE PREPARE TO WHUP ARSE NEXT SEASON!!!!!
; )Food Dude
I would rather be IN the Arena than watching from the stands...That is my life!
* Read Teddy Roosevelt's "Man in the Arena" if you need further explanation...
by vikingfanfrom afar on Feb 9, 2010 1:29 AM CST reply actions
I'm in total agreement with you Gonzo
It really hurts to be left out of the championship picture year after year. You get the teams that seem to always be there like the Patriots, Steelers, Cowboys, and Colts, and then you have the upstart teams that capture lightning in a bottle for a season like the Bucs, Panthers, Falcons, and Saints (yes that’s one division).
But the Vikings can’t seem to be anything more than one of the contenders in the playoffs, never reaching the big game. That just sucks.
I was actually starting to get over my championship loss depression when I read that factoid about every NFC team but the Lions and Vikings not going to the SB since 1990. Wow, that one hit me in the kneecaps pretty hard. I might have to crawl back into my sports-deficient cave again after that one.
Most fans put to much emphasis on winning a Super Bowl…Look at Tampa Bay, who cares if they won a Super Bowl, they were a boring team to watch then and they still are today…(except when they beat the Packers this season…) The Ravens did it with Trent Dill weed and besides watching Ray Lewis Knock guys heads off the Ravens were a big yawn….All those one hit wonder teams who have won a Super Bowl are forgotten soon after the season finale…The Super bowl is just one game with two teams left and their measly little fans who go party down in a neutral site.( kinda reminds me of the Pro Bowl) The Division Championship games are much more entertaining then the Super Bowl that’s why the Super Bowl has to have extravagant half time shows cause the games usually suck…and it’s more a competition for which big corporations got the lamest commercials…Don’t get me wrong I would love to see the Vikings win their first Super Bowl but I get much more enjoyment watching my team every Sunday during the regular season when all the teams are still playing…Being one of the most winning teams in the history of the NFL is a pretty cool achievement for the old school fans and all the Viking fans…It’s all about the fans being entertain through the whole Season and the Vikings were by far the most entertaining team this season…Hands down…I’m happy for the Saints and New Orleans but the Saints are an opening act at best…and should thank the Vikings,.refs, and the league for handing them their first Super lucky Bowl victory…Now go away New Orleans, we don’t have to feel sorry for you anymore…THANK GOD…You can now go back to being like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers…
by Dr Fix on Feb 9, 2010 7:02 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
Good Points
No matter what team a football fan cheers for, they are basically guaranteed to be able to cheer for them for 16 regular season games. If your a loyal fan to any losing teams, at least a couple times per year you get to see them win. (Very infrequent if your a Lions fan, but it happens, just gotta keep watching).
This year, the Vikings proved they were the Top-4. Luck is a big factor when you get down to it.
I think the Saints had enough luck for one year. But so did the Vikings (49ers/Ravens). But we also had our bad luck (Steelers, Bears).
In my mind, there were only two games we should of lost this year. AZ & Carolina. Our play was flat, and nothing could get done offensively.
14-2 record would of put us at a #1 seed. (13-3 would of done the same as we had the better strength of schedule).
But, now it is a question of what will happen for next year. Will we have a great O-line. Will we be picking up a good QB? Will we pick up depth? Who will retire? Who will stay and who will go. It’ll be exciting to see how it plays out.
Amen
Finally somethign who sees things like I do. Sure you can always have more (have your team win more games, have a job where you make more money, whatever), but you gotta try to be happy with what you got, “less than complete and total domination” is not common enough to only take pleasure in that & that alone.
Thank you for so eloquently stating what I maybe tried to say & failed early on in the season, when there were some posters here who said that the Favre signing must be called a failure if we did anything but won the Superbowl. That was the lamest attitude about watching football that I’ve ever heard. Is it really true for some that they don’t enjoy watching the game for itself, and that they care about is wins?
Apparently it is for you
You weren’t happy with what you had as a Packers fan so you decided to become a Vikings fan.
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
You made your mind up on what happened
He made his mind up, really your still castigating the guy?
Hey Verno329 we have room for you
when the burden of being a packer fan grows to heavy.. :D
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
Season=Failure
I’m still very angry and bitter about what happened. To come so close to the Super Bowl, and not get beat, but have the Vikings piss the game away to the eventual champions, makes me sick.
This is worse than the ‘98 debacle. It’s going to be a very, very long offseason.
The Vikings are probably the second best team in the league right now, but second place is the first loser.
Skol Vikings!
Woot Woot!
Well it's finally happened I can no longer support the Vikes
So I have over the season looked at different fan bases to help me decide what my new team will be. After all was said and done i realized that there is only one team with the winning attitude and the kind of classy fans that I can truly respect.
That’s right the Dallas Cowboys. With their class and imaginative cheering and support for other teams I think I can totally get behind them.
Ah hell I can’t even joke about this, after I cleaned up the vomit that I spewed onto my keyboard and wiped the monitor clean I have to say SKOL VIKINGS!
You don’t have to win for me to love ya but it certainly helps!
HAHA
I was reading it, thinking you were serious at first.
But we made it farther than 28 other teams. So unless you were going ot pick a Top-4 team (other than the Vikings, you would of had to choose the Saints or Colts to cheer for).
So I was starting to think this is fishy, until I read on.
I thought he was too
I had my ropes and torches ready
From the only TRUE North division
by thewild_viking_twins on Feb 10, 2010 4:59 PM CST up reply actions
Surely does....
Had to say Grime you did not fool me for a minute. Your blood is purple like mine. Can’t fool a fellow crazy for the Vikes fan!!!!! Good ’un though….Sure lots of others will reflect and realize how blessed we are. How many teams have been largely uncompetitive for most of their tenure as an NFL team – answer: most of ’em!!! SKOL VIKES!!!!!!!!
I would rather be IN the Arena than watching from the stands...That is my life!
* Read Teddy Roosevelt's "Man in the Arena" if you need further explanation...
by vikingfanfrom afar on Feb 9, 2010 9:45 AM CST up reply actions
options
nobody thinks the vikes are a top 5. remember if brett and pat go that’s 22mil. and 2 top players added or if brett stays he can receive a big pay day like the other QB’s, a big incentive to return don’t ya think R4F.
I don't think money is an issue for Favre.
Sure, it’s nice, but I really doubt that his decision on whether or not to play hinges on cash.
Skol Vikings!
Woot Woot!
Yeah agree...
How much money does a riding lawn mower cost anyway? Think he has enough to get a fleet of ’em at this point, plus ALL the bells and whistles if he wanted….It will be purely for the love of the game and the team, and the serious chance to go out on that highest of high notes – MVP of the SB!
I would rather be IN the Arena than watching from the stands...That is my life!
* Read Teddy Roosevelt's "Man in the Arena" if you need further explanation...
by vikingfanfrom afar on Feb 9, 2010 9:41 AM CST up reply actions
Why Favre would come back next year
He bonded with the Vikings team, managers, fans. he loves them, they love him and respect what he brings to the team. Think how difficult it must have been for him for the last 4 years in Green Bay…from Day 1 Ted Thompson wanted Favre to fade into the sunset so Teddy could build his own team. Think of what a kick in the teeth that was for Favre…that’s why he kept waffling…he wanted to keep playing but they wanted him to go away. And when the Thompson character assassination hit job on Favre went into action about 50% of the Packer nation (younger ones, I assume) jumped on the hater bandwagon…another kick in the teeth. And when Favre survived that tenure with Jets, where he really didn’t fit in, and went back to Lambeau they booed him and made nasty signs .
Even if he were to retire (which I doubt) going out on top means more than just winning the Superbowl….he played his last year in a very nurturing, supportive place and he loved every minute of it.
It's all my fault
I expected a choke job since September. I kept the Vikes at arm’s length all season. Enjoying the wins but keeping a “yeah but” attitude. I wasn’t going to let them do it to me again. Then on the last drive I stood up and said out loud “could it be? They’re actually going to do it!” Next play 12 man in huddle, followed by pick. Game over. If I just would have held out 2 more plays that trophy would have been ours. The Vikings hate me.
Buddy, you're not the reason for the Vikings constant shortcomings.
You’ve been a Vikings’ fan long enough to know the futility of it all.
Skol Vikings!
Woot Woot!
AP
One our o-line did not protect brett and open holes for ap and he for his standards had a subpar year but the fumbles have to stop.but for the offseason we try to keep the d-line together and hope ej comes back and we should be just as good unless we have to go get a qb then there we go.the saints didn’t beat us we did along with the refs and nfl.
Purple Heart Always Wounded
With optimism abound, my heart will be healed next season. I can see it now, Pat returns, we sign edwards and taylor, Favre returns, Adrian holds on to the ball, Allen leads leauge in sacks, and Chilly leads us to the promise land. It will be a sweet, sweet day for us all.
Wow that loss was hard to swallow, but its next season now, they are all 0 and 0. So lets have a good draft and free agency, and get back to bussiness, WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SKOL VIKINGS
by lil league coach on Feb 9, 2010 1:25 PM CST reply actions
long story
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"
Bravo Gonzo
That post sums up why the vast majority of us remain Vikings fans. At least we usually have good teams to cheer for and let us down every year, right? So what if it inspires a constant cycle of hope followed by devastation? At least we get the hope part nearly every year.
(Yes, fans of other teams, I’m still grasping at straws here, but it really is part of what makes being a Vikings fan so unique.)
by Eric J. Thompson on Feb 9, 2010 3:52 PM CST reply actions
O MY GOD!
It’s Eric!!!! I havnt seen nor heard from you in like a long time dude!!! How ya been?
I love Twins Baseball and Minnesota Vikings Football.
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Feb 9, 2010 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
Next year
lets make it happen
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"
HA HA HA HA!!!
I was thinking the same thing when I read that.
I did not expect it to.
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"
Keep the Faith :)
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
its the only way
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"
This Was the Year
This year was the year for the Vikings to win, and now the window’s starting to close. Favre may or may not be back; even if he does come back, he’s not a long-term solution. Next year’s schedule is harder, with potential cold-weather road games at Chicago, Green Bay, Philadelphia, Washington, New England, and New York (Jets). The run defense is starting to slip and Pat Williams may retire. The offensive line has serious weaknesses in run blocking and pass protection. They need to keep Chester Taylor as an option if Peterson can’t stop fumbling. It will be difficult to win the division next season, much less go all the way.
I hate to say it—I’ve been a Vikings fan since the Purple People Eater days—but I’m afraid this season was a chance we won’t see for another 10/11 years.
Good points
its true you never know what might happen next year i dont believe that this team fold due to the schedule. even though it point to then not bieng able to make the playoffs. this is what i orignally though. can this team win the divison 3 times in a row its tough to tell, only the packers have done that in the last decade. this may sound a little corny but hey if you belive any thing can happen just ask the saints
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"
Katrina's Influence
Hurricane Katrina accomplished two things for the city of New Orleans. 1. It brought the city a Lombardi Trophy and 2. It got a bunch of crack dealers to move out. Sadly a large number of them reside here in southeastern Kansas right now.
This was a successful season for the Vikings. That we didn’t reach the ultimate pinnacle of success was frustrating, but our day will come. Soon.
The Minnesota Vikings - Undefeated in the Playoffs at Lambeau Field!
I wonder if we'd come together if I kicked Pawlenty in the nuts.
Is that how you spell his name?
by Grime on Feb 10, 2010 8:49 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd give ya a High-Five :)
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
Watching Other Teams Win
Not only have we seen almost every other NFC team go to the Super Bowl, we’ve seen former Vikings coaches and players get there. Tony Dungy was the defensive coordinator in the “lost rings” year of 1998; he coached the Colts to a Super Bowl win. Brian Billick was the offensive coordinator in 1998; he coached the Ravens to a Super Bowl win. Mike Tomlin was the defensive coordinator in 2006 and coached the Steelers to a Super Bowl win. Brad Johnson started his as a Viking, went to the Buccaneers and won the Super Bowl (against former Viking QB Rich Gannon).
No on Dungy.
Dungy was the Head Coach at Tampa Bay in ’98. Foge Fazio was our Defensive Coordinator in ’98 if I remember right.
The Minnesota Vikings - Undefeated in the Playoffs at Lambeau Field!
My mistake.
Dungy was the Vikings defensive coordinator in 1992-1995, followed by Fazio. Still, though, point stands.
This sentence just haunts me
“Since 1990, every team currently in the National Football Conference has represented the NFC in the Super Bowl at least once. Except the Detroit Lions. Oh, and the Minnesota Vikings.”
How can this possibly be? What an incredibly great yet tragically unfortunate franchise the Vikings are. How can this possibly be? Wow.
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Go Vikes!
Gonzo - My fellow Airman; All I gotta say is ...
“Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?” – John Belushi – ’78
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsmybQKpmTw
"Skol Vikings! Let's win this game Skol Vikings!
Very funny scene. Thanks for that.
Winning is not everything but it sure feels like it sometimes
by lifelongvike on Feb 10, 2010 9:18 AM CST up reply actions
Payton Manning threw the winning TD to the wrong player
Many Viking Fan might commiserate Brett Favre’s errant toss in the closing minutes of the NFC Championship game in New Orleans. So why is nobody saying anything about Peyton Manning throwing away the Super Bowl which sealed the victory for the New Orleans Saints? Typical bias Network Press coverage as usual, nothing ever changes.
I wish Brett Favre would return for another go of it with the Vikings next season, before the lock-out!
Everyone we meet in life give us happiness, some by their arrival, others by their departure!
A History Of The Vikings...
When is NFL films going to put together a history of the Minnesota Vikings and document our years and years and years of awesome success during the regular season and our heartwrenching failure during the playoffs…for crying out loud, we deserve to have our pain memorialized for all to see…maybe then we can catch a break from the football gods…
Hmmm...
“for crying out loud, we deserve to have our pain memorialized for all to see…”
NO OTHER FANS HAVE SUFFERED LIKE WE HAVE SUFFERED!!!!!
Ahem.
Seriously, I have started reading stuff comparing Viking fans with Cub fans and pre-2004 Red Sox fans. (I’m looking in your direction, Bill Simmons.) I myself do NOT want to be a part of that fan niche, and not just because the Cubs and pre-2004 Red Sox are/were synonomous with losing.
As a Viking fan, I don’t want to be lumped together with fanbases whose narcissistic self-pity spawned a colossal sense of d-bag entitlement (“SAWX FANS’ SUFFAHING IS GREATAH THAN YOU-AH SUFFAHING!!!” “Hey, did you see the latest Cubby documentary? Yeah, on top of the other thirty-seven Cubs documentaries out there. After the Bartman game we deserve a World Series on the North Side more than ever!”).
Please tell me it hasn’t come to that.
by Midnight Rambler on Feb 10, 2010 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
I hear that
Plus WE ARE NOT LOSERS!!!!
Look are our record since inception look at how many play off games we’ve been in! Good God people just because you didn’t sleep with the prom queen doesn’t mean the other chicks you had sex with were any less fun.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
+ Sechs (6 in German)
Good Point. I had heard that prom queens are all frigid like the winds off of Rainy Lake in January, so in those days stuck with the “lesser god” (?) females that were oh so much easier to attempt conquest over (like I had a chance with the prom queens anyway lol).
Worked out pretty well, just as have the Vikes overall…on reflection, lots of fun in both cases: Many highs, some lows, MUCH stimulation, and at the end of the day lamentations by adults (whether parents in the prom scenario or as a Vike fan)….so few complaints on my part.
Wouldn’t life be dull if we HAD made successful conquests of all the prom queens passing through our life or won say 4 – 6 SB titles? Hmmmmmmmmmm…guess we will never know in the prom case, and will have to wait for just a bit longer in the Vikes case (I will settle for ONE SB W at this point!)?
I would rather be IN the Arena than watching from the stands...That is my life!
* Read Teddy Roosevelt's "Man in the Arena" if you need further explanation...
by vikingfanfrom afar on Feb 11, 2010 12:52 AM CST up reply actions
I'll be here. Vikings for life.
All these disappointments will only make the 1st Super Bowl victory that much more sweet.
Forgive me if I choose to run around half naked through the streets out of excitment when the do finally win the Super Bowl. Hopefully KFC is open late that night.
Hard one(loss) to swallow, thats what she said.
I'll remember to keep my shades down that night
Ha….
I know what you mean.. When & if (more-so a matter of WHEN) the Vikings DO win a Superbowl… It’ll just be that much more great.
Now… the Wait..
BEST THING I CN THINK TO DO WITH MY TIME
i WATCHED EVERY SINGLE SECOND OF EVERY SINGLE VIKINGS GAME THIS WHOLE YEAR AND EVEN THOUGH THE OUTCOME WASNT WHAT I HOPED FOR… I CANT THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE I WOULD RATHER DO WITH MY SUNDAY AND MONDAYS THAT WATCHING THE HORNED PURPLE TAKE THE FIELD AND REPRESENT
Eternal Optimists...
I guess that best describes us as Viking fans. We don’t look for pity, it’s not in our DNA. We’ll typically lose our last game of the season (usually when something big is on the line), piss, moan, and what if for awhile…then suck it up and prepare for next season full of fight again. It’s like that head-busting hangover you wake up with after binge drinking the night before..you crawl out of bed begging God forgiveness if he’ll just make you feel better, swearing you’ll walk the straight and narrow from here on out. Then noon comes and you’re feeling a little better…your prayers might have been answered…the afternoon wears on and the urge begins to creep back in…then…BAM!!! What promise? I pledged to do what? All I want is one little drink….We’ll be back next season, for sure.
Let me say up front....
I am a Bears fan… but I’ve been here a long time and by now y’all should know I am not a troll… so I will just come out and say what I honestly think and see if it makes sense.
You can’t judge a season totally by whether a team won the Super Bowl. That is stupid… since by that standard every team but one in the league was a complete failure. My own definition as to whether a team had a successful season is whether that team has made steps towards dominating its division, conference and the league for the next 5 to 10 years (think “building the New England Patriots” year after year if you will… who we, of course, all hate but that is beside the point).
St. Brett, who of course I despise, will either come back, or he won’t. I am guessing after doing the usual annual “Teary eyed press conference please beg me to come back” routine we have seen over the last several years will be back.
That is, obviously, a good thing for the Vikings for next year, since Jackson is only the answer to the trivia question “who was the failed quarterback that Favre replaced”.
However…
In the long run it doesn’t help you guys as a franchise be successful by MY definition.
The smartest thing that The Hated Packers did in the last ten years wasn’t continually finding a way to talk St. Brett into not retiring… no, their smartest move was to draft Aaron Rodgers for the day that they knew was coming sooner or later. They then slowly developed him over time, to the point that when St. Brett left they didn’t miss him, even a little.
When the Vikings look at next year, and think about what will make a successful season for the team, I would think it only logical that success would mean that not only would the team win the north (which they have plenty of horses to do) but also to bring in your own “Aaron Rodgers” and start getting him ready for when St. Brett either totally breaks down from age (which will happen one of these days), gets hurt, or you get tired of watching him throw your playoff games away to other teams like he does every year.
Successful would be finding a way to stay on top of the division while replacing a quickly aging defense that is slipping against the run. As good as the WIlliams reign has been, it should be obvious to all that steps are going to have to be taken sooner rather than later there…
Successful, to me, is to find a way to retool and reload without having to have one or two “rebuilding years”… much like what the Hated Patriots have been doing over the last ten years.
Winning a Super Bowl is great, but beating the snot out of the other teams that you despise in your division every game, every year is a pretty successful and satisfying thing all unto its self.
Answer me this. Would you rather have a one off Super Bowl win and watch St. Brett ride off into the sunset claiming all glory unto himself… or would you rather spend the next 10 or so years grinding Da Bears, the Pack and the Hapless Ones into dust, then on to the playoffs and take your chances…
I think if the team concentrates on squeaking out that one more shot at the Super Bowl with this particular aging team, instead of building for the future while still remaining in a position to win (again, doing it the Hated Patriots way), the Vikings could find themselves facing seasons of “rebuilding” while losing.
If I were a Viking (heaven forbid), my number one priority would be finding the next Aaron Rodgers and hoping that St. Brett’s ego will give me another year or two in the process.
The Vikes arent that old
Pat Williams yes, Hutch still has good years left Winfield too. The Vikes secondary, WR group and LBs are all young and improving(minus Leber, but he has good years left). Yes the Vikes do need to draft a QB or try and get McNabb is #4 does retire.
The Vikes future is bright, but to answer your question I would take a SB victory if it meant things would fall apart for the next few years(even though that wouldn’t happen).
If the Vikings already had a SB victory or two I’d think different, buit to get the first one I would put up with anything at this point. I would take the next 5 losing seasons for a Championship. When you have been starved since 1961 you gotta eat.
If the Vikes did win next year with Brett it wouldn’t take away from their future. The Vikes will be smart enough to draft or sign a replacement at QB(your Aaron Rodgers theory).
Hard one(loss) to swallow, thats what she said.
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