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Hope he enjoys his extra money

while he’s sitting at home watching us in the Super Bowl

From the only TRUE North division

by thewild_viking_twins on Mar 14, 2010 5:31 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Somebody...

should tell him to return the jersey he took, because he is not a Viking.

"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."

by cryhavoc on Mar 14, 2010 5:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Damn...

I think the Vikes will be fine without him, but imagine what the backfield woul’ve been if he signed:

The greatest QB, statistically speaking, in NFL history.
The best running back in the NFL
One of the 10 best backs in NFL history…on third down
The offensive rookie of the year
The NFC receiving leader

On one team. Now, we just have 4 of the 5.

Jesus, is that a potent offense, with or without Tomlinson. Good luck to him in New York.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Mar 14, 2010 5:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Past Career Stats Aren't Worth a Single Yard Next Season

Don’t be like a kid collecting football cards of your favorite players. This is actually the best thing that could happen to the Vikings; we’ll start using younger talent (either Albert Young or a rookie we draft) who, I predict, will be more productive than a washed-up, big-ego, diva.

LT is done and the last thing we needed was him b*tching about touches because of his (frankly, irrelevent) past accomplishments. AD is going to have one the greatest years of any RB in NFL history, Favre is coming back, we’re going to draft a few sick rookies, and we’re going to win the SuperBowl. And LT can watch it all through his green visor.

by Ace991 on Mar 14, 2010 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with you.

If he came whatever, but I would really like to see some of our younger players get some playing time.

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Mar 15, 2010 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Ask Redskin fans of the last twelve years or so how well signing big-name free agents past their prime works out.

by Midnight Rambler on Mar 15, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

What a fool. The Jet’s are a terrible team.

by Stay classy, Joe. on Mar 14, 2010 5:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Making it to the AFC championship is terrible?

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Mar 14, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Everyone knows they

Had NO bussiness what-so-ever even being in the playoffs. They only got into the playoffs because they got lucky stole the Saints horsheshoe away. Then you throw in 4 missed field goal by two of the best kickers (And 3 by statistically the greatest kicker ever) in the games and look where you’re at: The AFC Championship Game. No way in HELL that Mark Snackchez and Braylon EdDrop can lead that team to any further than the Wildcard game.

I love Twins Baseball and Minnesota Vikings Football.

by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Mar 14, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

  1. defense, #1 running game.

Yeah… it was ALL luck.

The Jets proved this year what MANY teams in the past have proved… with a good defense and a good running game, a team can be very successful. They hit their stride right when they needed to… at the end of the season and into the playoffs.

If you can't laugh at yourself... Who can you laugh at?
The Packers, that’s who.
-- The almighty Manimal

by TheViking83 on Mar 14, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

should read #1 defense

it auto-formatted it weird like that.

If you can't laugh at yourself... Who can you laugh at?
The Packers, that’s who.
-- The almighty Manimal

by TheViking83 on Mar 14, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

True that

Jets are a great team. I think LT made a good decision for himself (he’ll get more playing time and more “bright lights”). But I also think this is a great outcome for the Vikings and not a good one for the Jets. The Vikes will go with a younger, more humble, team-oriented player to back up the REAL #1 back (none of this 1A bull from Chilly) while the Jets lose a 1400 yard power back for a 700 yard, washed up diva.

by Ace991 on Mar 14, 2010 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm still very surprised

that they would not match a 2 year, 5 mil deal for Thomas Jones, but give LT 2 year, 5.1 mil. Doesn’t make sense to me, but if LT has a resurgence this season in New York, the Jets could certainly be getting the last laugh.

If you can't laugh at yourself... Who can you laugh at?
The Packers, that’s who.
-- The almighty Manimal

by TheViking83 on Mar 15, 2010 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Their number 1 run defense and run offense

Wasn’t good enough because they shouldn’t have been there anyways. If it was so good then why didn’t they flat out get in and win their way in instead of having to have Curtis Painter hand them the game. I mean yea anybody can play great defense against Painter.

I love Twins Baseball and Minnesota Vikings Football.

by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Mar 15, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

They may have had some luck in getting into the playoffs but they did, and then did well. They have the best pass defense in the league and just added Cromartie to join what is easily the best Cb in the league in Revis, and they’ll be getting Kris Jenkins back next season. Going into next season they probably have what is thought to be the best defense in the league, and one of the best run games in the league. If Sanchez can improve a little bit (which seems likely) they could become more well rounded too.

by packallday555 on Mar 15, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, I think the Jets are where the Vikings were a couple seasons ago

Good enough to beat average teams, but (barring a lucky streak), not likely to run any tables in postseason. But, who knows .. maybe LT helps change that for them, and/or maybe Sanchez steps up even more this year.

Yeah, that’s right, I guess I’m saying the Jets with Sanchez are kinda like the 2007 Vikes with TJack.

And it is always possible for a good-but-not-dominant team to catch that lucky streak and go all the way (case in point this year, the Saints)

by puddnhead on Mar 15, 2010 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Except the Jets have a franchise QB

which the Vikings do NOT have an answer at QB after 5 years, and haven’t had one since Culpepper..

Jets aren’t as good as the Vikings on paper, and had no business being in the playoffs, let alone going that far, but they’ll be a tough cookie in a couple years. Rex Ryan is a badass, I wish we had him coaching the Vikes…

by cdubs on Mar 15, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice comparison. Really good defense, with a great run game and passing game that can get it done every once in a while.

by packallday555 on Mar 15, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tomlinson Bowl?

Would be an interesting Super Bowl, however I don’t think the Jets have what it takes to make it to the big game yet. Their defense is great, but they probably wouldn’t have made the playoffs last year if it hadn’t been for Indy flopping over like dead fish. San Diego also dropped the ball letting them continue on to the championship game. I don’t see them being able to rely on Sanchez enough to make it all the way.

Anyway, it kind of sucks, but we’re looking for a BACKUP. It’s not like we’re looking for someone who would be on the field even close to every play (like we were with Housh). I would have loved to have seen an LT/AP duo, but AP/_ will be damn good no matter what. Give Albert Young a shot, draft some help on Defense/O-Line/a QB to learn behind Favre and we’re golden.

by Purpledork on Mar 14, 2010 5:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Big Mistake

Green is not a starter. Tomlinson will take over and be one and done. He could have milked a couple year here but now he will be beaten up and retire a mediocre back rather than a well used utility man for a great Vikings team.
NY press will eat him alive in the end.
Bad move LT

by CitrusFLViking on Mar 14, 2010 6:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Huh?

Someone please explain to me how this makes any sense for NY. Why would they dump Thomas Jones, who’s coming off one of his best seasons, for LT, who’s coming off his worst season?

by Volfie on Mar 14, 2010 6:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Plus they're paying LT more money. Jets had a chance to match KC and chose not to.

There has got to be an underlying reason behind this. I’m guessing his ego was a problem. Plus Greene and Jones have similar styles. LT would be a good change of pace back.

by dsludo on Mar 14, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh and most importantly....

The Jets have some seats to sell in their new stadium :)

by dsludo on Mar 14, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Patriots approve of it.

by medicineball on Mar 14, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

It’s hard to tell when Belichick is actually laughing, but….

by Elgar on Mar 14, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Age, maybe?

Jones is 34, LT is 31. Maybe the feeling is TJ is at the end of the road at 34, like what happened to Curtis Martin almost overnight. Maybe they think that LT still has two good years, and running behind their line will rejuvenate him.

That, and Shonne Greene and TJ are the same type of RB’s. LT gives them a pass catching dimension that Greene and TJ don’t have.

Other than that, I don’t know.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Mar 14, 2010 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oops, my bad

But that makes it even more mystifying.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Mar 14, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

it was not too bright

but LT better as a 3rd down back – Greene and TJ are 1st and 2nd down backs

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Mar 15, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ugh..this sucks.

It’s looking more and more like this is going to be one of those awful, no-good-news types of off-seasons that we’ve seen so many of by our beloved Vikings. If Favre turns us down for next season, it’s going to be a really long off-season.

C’mon Vikes, stop sitting on your hands and get some talent to shore up the weak spots on our team. Let’s go!

by Wytefang on Mar 14, 2010 6:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Well, if it's any consolation

The Jets SB site is anywhere from lukewarm to mildly pleased. A lot of questioning as to why LT and not keep Thomas Jones:

Gang Green Nation.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Mar 14, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

And that's a damn good question.

This signing would make a little more sense if the Pats had been players for LT, but that doesn’t really appear to have been the case.

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 14, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't even think the Pats being players should have been a factor

I just don’t see letting Thomas Jones go and then signing LT for more money, unless they think LT has a better skill set than TJ, and Shonne Greene is going to roll into the TJ role.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Mar 14, 2010 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

… it really doesn’t seem to make a lot of sense, does it?

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 14, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

WRONG, it's the best news possible

LT is done. NFL people, the actual football people, are all saying it.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/11568/does-l-t-add-something-jones-couldnt

“About the only way I see Tomlinson as a more attractive option than Jones is that he makes the Jets’ backfield more multidimensional.”

“But I think we know for sure Tomlinson has reached the twilight.”

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/02/22/ladainian-tomlinsons-options-may-be-few/

“I don’t know that he has anything left,” one NFC executive said. “I’d be hesitant to sign him.”

“Tomlinson rushed for just 730 yards in 14 games and had a paltry 3.3-yard rushing average in 2009 and was, by most accounts, a high-maintenance player in his final two seasons in San Diego. He needed constant reassurance from Chargers coaches and front office people that he was still the cornerstone of their franchise

http://www.nfl.com/videos/minnesota-vikings/09000d5d816dfe56/Options-for-L-T

Mike Maylock (NFL analyst who covers Vikings) doesn’t think LT would accept a role behind AD nor would he be a good 3rd down back (he is not a good blocking back)

This is the kind of guy you wanted on the Vikings?!? Use your head, the Vikes and Jets wanted LT to sell tickets (if they were smart). I assume you as a fan don’t care about ticket revenues, but rather winning games. Well Albert Young and/or a rookie RB are going to be more productive than a washed-up, crybaby LT.

by Ace991 on Mar 14, 2010 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

NFL People ... HA HA

Didn’t those same NFL talking heads say the same thing last year that Farve was done …

by VikinginCalifornia on Mar 15, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

And also

Didn’t they say we had no chance against the “red-hot Cowboys”?

~Lah~ ♪♫

by Seracon on Mar 15, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

They DID try

They couldn’t exactly force the man to sign here.

by puddnhead on Mar 15, 2010 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Albert Young today is better than Westbrook today. In fact, Young might really have talent.

by medicineball on Mar 14, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sad but true

…and now Ian Johnson may learn that fate and the VIkings may like him much more than he had thought.

by Elgar on Mar 14, 2010 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

#41

I bet Johnson goes back to the #41 he had in college. Karl Paymah is no longer with the team.

Unless we draft a running back, I think we will have Peterson, Young, and Ian Johnson on the roster for the 2010 season.

The Vikings also signed James Johnson from Kansas State. Maybe he will crack into the roster.

by medicineball on Mar 14, 2010 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Until the firs play of the season

and be blows out his knee, or ankle, concusion…….

"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk."
"You men are only risking your lives, while I am risking an almost-certain Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor!"
"We have clearance Clarence. Roger Rodger, what's our vector Victor?"

by VikesFaninNM on Mar 14, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Westbook .. Oh hell no

He wont even remember how to get to the stadium

by VikinginCalifornia on Mar 15, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me I'm glad

Like whosyourmama last year, I don’t think be was all that great a fit. I would rather try one of our own guys and cocentrate our efforts on the line.

by SouthernNorseman on Mar 14, 2010 6:39 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

It's not a major loss...

… but is there any question that he would have picked Minny if they knew who their QB was going to be? You take the good with the bad with Favre, and offseason uncertainty (and the fallout that comes with it) is the bad.

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 14, 2010 8:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Interesting theory

But I think it’s already a done deal that Favre is coming back, they’re just going to play the ‘will he won’t he’ charade so he doesn’t have to go to OTA’s and the two a day portion of training camp. If LT had said ’I’ll sign if Favre plays’ they would have let him in on the secret.

Personally, I think it came down to one thing:

1) LT will get an opportunity for more playing time, because with Thomas Jones gone, Shonne Greene isn’t exactly a known quantity yet. Promising start, but not settled that he is an every down guy. That’s been pretty much established with AP, so LT’s role is very defined—#2 guy behind AP.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Mar 14, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

More playing time

I don’t buy the “Will he Won’t he” Favre deal being pushed on us. As of right now Favre IS coming back, since he is under contract.

I think LT wants a starting role and maybe the Jets can give it to him. But what about Greene?

Ski-U-Mah!

by CrazyCollegian on Mar 14, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

Until he files for retirement, I’m not thinkin anything but Favre as my qb in Sept.

by Phenom507 on Mar 14, 2010 9:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

You may be right...

… but it’s what LT thinks that may have mattered. Obviously I don’t really know, but if you’re picking between two teams that were in the final 4 last year and your choice is between the team with the QB who says he doesn’t know if he’s coming back and a team that’s already made a significant move this offseason, the second team has an advantage. Was it decisive? Beats me. But the only way it wasn’t a factor in his decision is if he talked to Favre and Brett told him he was coming back…

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 14, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry if it stings...

… but it’s hard to pretend that his offseason flirtations with retirement don’t have an impact on these situations. Favre doesn’t believe he owes anyone anything. While I might disagree with that, it’s hard to get mad at him for taking the time that the Vikings have offered him. But you can love Favre and still see the possibility that free agents might find Minny a more attractive destination if they knew Favre was coming back than they do if they’re not sure.

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 15, 2010 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Odd thing is no one on this site (who is a Vike fan)

Is having an issue with it. No one is talking about the sting, or anything about it. The position he’s in here is much different than the one in Green Bay Ted. We don’t have an issue with him because we didn’t expect anything out of him anyway. We expected another year with a crappy QB and anything that slows that down is good in most Minnesota Vikings mind.

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Mar 15, 2010 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

When I said "sting"...

… I was referring to the fact that my argument annoyed. I wasn’t trying to suggest that Viking fans (on this site or elsewhere) are upset with Favre for not making up his mind yet. It certainly doesn’t appear to me that they are and I wasn’t trying to suggest otherwise. I just think that if LT was motivated by the possibility of winning a championship he might have been inclined to pick the team where he knew who the QB was going to be next season. That’s all.

Of course, it may not have hurt that he’s the second former Charger to end up on the Jets this offseason. And the money, if he got more there than he would have in Minnesota.

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 15, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’m sure this did factor into it because I’m not sure why else he would have chose the Jets over the Vikings. I suppose with Jones gone LT will be able to share some carries with Greene but I’m pretty sure they have Washington coming back too so I don’t know that he’ll get a any more carries then he could have gotten with the Vikings. Kind of puzzling but it’s not like it really hurts the Vikes.

by packallday555 on Mar 15, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

thanks for that reminder TSSC.

But in case we do forget, I think you need to make another 125 consecutive posts in a row here talking about nothing but the downsides of Mr. B. Lorenzo Favre. You know, just to make sure we don’t forget that POV.

by puddnhead on Mar 15, 2010 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Consider the source"...

… is a viable way to attack my argument. But if you disagree, I’d honestly like to hear why it is you think my logic is flawed.

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 15, 2010 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, this was a key factor in his choice

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Mar 15, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fair point

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Mar 14, 2010 10:05 PM CDT reply actions  

man, Free Agents aren’t gonna touch the Vikes with a stick if we don’t SIGN FAVRE NOW! This "will he or won’t he" crap is getting old and is good for no one especially us as fans. So the Vikes front office needs to get they’re act together.

by Supabad1edy on Mar 14, 2010 10:40 PM CDT reply actions  

You’ll be glad to know that Favre is already signed for 2010.

And he hasn’t announced his retirement.

by medicineball on Mar 14, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

hehehe....

yes, we’ve made that point elsewhere!

I BELIEVE...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Mar 15, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

?

Why is everyone so high on old FAs? We didn’t get TJ Housh last year and look what happened, we found young talent that will electirfy us far past the point TJ is watching at home on Sundays. Ask the Redskins how signing players past their prime due to big names of yester-year works out as a franchise model. SKOL.

by Jepp The Viking on Mar 15, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well... If history repeats itself..

We’ll take a ROY 1st RD RB.

Like how we got Harvin…. ROY
Over the TJ Housh not signing…

A ROY RB? That would be a hard one to see happening..

by Deek on Mar 16, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Looks like he pulled a Houshmendzedah.

He, “chose the bacon over the ring!” as Visanthe Shaincoe responded in a tweet.

Housh did the same thing last year, and the Vikings got Percy Harvin instead. Then remember virtually all season was hounded by questions about the Vikings success when that wasn’t happening in Seattle. …I laugh at the thought!

It may take a village to raise a child, but it takes a Viking to raze a village.

by Luft Krigare on Mar 14, 2010 10:56 PM CDT reply actions  

+1000000

Some more comments on the Jets’ “great” signing:

“As a dolphins fan this is the best news I could have heard. LT has nothing in the tank …Thomas jones had ten times the season LT had last year.”

“From Thomas Jones who tries his guts out to this washed up “protect myself standing on the sidelines” what a joke the Jets will be."

“the Jets probably won’t even make the playoffs this year, in part because counting on Shonn Green and a beat up LT to do what Thomas Jones did last year. LT was more interested in money than winning a SB which he won’t do in NY.”

“Last year TJ chose the Seacrappers over the Vikes. Maybe LT will be kicking himself for not playing with Brett Adrian and Percy”

“If LT couldn’t perform in sunny, mild weathered San Diego, what the hell do you think he is going to accomplish in the frigid temperatures of NY/NJ?

The football world saw him bundled up in New England for the Championship game.Same thing ten years ago in Pittsburgh.

It’s over, Johnny….IT’S OVER!’

“TJ was a better option than a slower, older, broken down LT. 2 steps backwards for the Jets.”

I CANNOT BELIEVE SOME OF YOU GUYS ARE ACTUALLY UPSET WE DIDN’T GET THIS WASHED-UP SCRUB.
The rest of the league is laughing at the Jets. Thank God our idiotic pursuit of this guy failed.

by Ace991 on Mar 14, 2010 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

One more great comment

Great news for Vikes Fans!!! Bad news for Jets fans.. What a dumb move to lose TJ only to get LT. One of the dumbest off-season moves this year!

Living in SD last year I saw every single snap LT took and it was brutal.

Not sure what these Jets fans are boasting about.. In all reality you should be pissed at the organization for falling in love with a name not what the player has left."

by Ace991 on Mar 14, 2010 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

more playing time?

NY offered LT the possibility of more playing time. the “possibility of”…ain’t gettin’ that with the Vikes but it could happen with the Jets. maybe more money. but how could LT look at the Jets and Sanchez over the Vikes (i’m hedging this on Favre coming back) and not see more of a SB chance with the Vikes? and he hasn’t won one yet.

personally, i think it’s a dumb move on LT’s part. but the Vikes will be fine w/o him.
and for the record, I hate Thomas Jones – he shit all over Favre last year and it was unwarranted. “sit on the bench during the Miami game”, Jones said. and how many yards did YOU have in that game, TJ? 23? asshole.

by belairjeff on Mar 14, 2010 11:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Let's be fair

We have a good o-line, but (based on last year’s performance) the Jets have a better one. I think a lot of Thomas Jones’ success had more to do with his line than him. And I think that line will make LT look better, too.

You can’t fault the man for that, going to the place that is better equipped to let him excel. I think, deep down, most of us would do that too.

by puddnhead on Mar 15, 2010 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

oops

actually this comment has more to do with DCPurple’s comment below. Well, it’s kind of a mix, I guess.

by puddnhead on Mar 15, 2010 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Money Talks, BS .... Sits at Home, Alone

By all accounts, LT has something of an ego issue, so it wouldn’t surprise me if the Jets were much more attractive because it offers him an opportunity to be “1”, rather than “1A”. But I think that after having that talk with his wife, that was a minor sweetner.

Money does it. The man’s on the downside of his career, he’s trying to pile on as many ducats as he can before the gravey train runs out of steam. He has a wife whom he consulted, and you can be absolutely certain that she’s a lot more interested in that, than she is in him taking a paycut to hang out with Favre and AP.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Mar 15, 2010 7:35 AM CDT reply actions  

+1

For usage of the word ‘ducat’.

by Jepp The Viking on Mar 15, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Addendum - LT's Answer

According to a “league source”, SI says that LT chose the Jets over the Vikings for 3 reasons;

1) The Jets run the same RB scheme and playbook that the Chargers used to have
2) Brian Shottenheimer (the Chargers old QB coach, now the Jet’s OC) gives him comfort
3) He doesn’t know for sure whether or not Favre’s coming back

So, as Ted said, Favre’s lack of a quick decision is making it’s impact felt.

Good thing LT wasn’t motivated by money… :)

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Mar 15, 2010 9:17 AM CDT reply actions  

Favre. Making the Vikings better by saving us from signing lemon free agents.

by medicineball on Mar 15, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haha +100000 EXACTLY!

Thank you for pointing that out and thank Favre (if that is really what kept LT from coming; I think it was $$$ and EGO) for keeping us from signing a washed-up, diva-scrub.

by Ace991 on Mar 15, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now a story comes out that Favre may have tried to persuade Tomlinson to come to the Vikings.

I think LT was worth a shot. We tried. It didn’t work. LT isn’t a great pass-blocker anyway. We’re movin’ on.

by medicineball on Mar 15, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well there is always BW. With a limited role he should be able to stay healthy and still contribute. I wanted LT, but I viewed it as a win win for Minn if they could get one of them. I believe either one would only help the team even if they don’t have a lot left. So it’s not the end of the world because LT went to play for a loud mouth.

by angryguy77 on Mar 15, 2010 10:10 AM CDT reply actions  

No to Westbrook.

I think our stable is A-OK without adding a veteran RB at this time.
If one comes along, I think you take a look, but there is NO (zero zilch nada) urgency to sign a veteran RB at this time.

I BELIEVE...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Mar 15, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Westbrook is likely better as a 3rd down option anyway

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Mar 15, 2010 3:07 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm going to trust Chilly on this one

So far the guy has shown he can build a badass team, whether it’s through the draft or free agency/trades. He obviously made a proposition to LT, made him clear on his role and what he was worth to the team, and LT walked. That’s fine in my book, LT was hyped to be back to original form last year and he was everything BUT that. Sure he’s a big name you’d like to see backing up the best RB in the NFL, but if Chilly let him walk then I can live with that.

I still remember initially being upset we didn’t trade for Cutler after Chilly went to Denver to visit the Broncos and discuss a deal. Chicago was dancing in the streets when they signed him. But Chilly obviously saw something in Cutler-cry-baby that he balked on it and let the bears have him. Great decision in my eyes. I trust Chilly on the LT deal.

by cdubs on Mar 15, 2010 3:14 PM CDT reply actions  

LT to the Jets

Knew Brian Shotty, New stadium, and chance for more touches. If I were LT, it all added up to signing with the Jets. Still his loss. LT shudda called TJ WherezMyMomma (not in the playoffs).

Skol Vikings!!

by LAviking on Mar 16, 2010 7:03 AM CDT reply actions  

Yes

LT probably chose Jets over Vikes for exactly the same reasons that Favre chose Vikes over Jets. System & OCs.

by puddnhead on Mar 16, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

And here is collaboration of that POV from LT himself

Even though Brett Favre is (for now) with the Vikings, and even though his previous season with the Jets didn’t end the way anyone would have liked, the quarterback spoke highly of the Jets when talking to LaDainian Tomlinson.

“He told me both organizations were great,” said Tomlinson, who chose the Jets over the Vikings as his new place to play. “He told me to take my time and make the best decision for my family.”

Tomlinson visited Minnesota on Thursday before spending Friday in New Jersey. He agreed to a two-year, $5.1 million contract with the Jets over the weekend.

The former Chargers running back said being familiar with Jets offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer (who used to be an assistant in San Diego), and the presence of Adrian Peterson with the Vikings, helped Tomlinson choose the Jets.

“There’s an opportunity to get more touches here with the Jets,” Tomlinson said. “And learning a new offense would be tough at this point.”


He also said he looks forward to playing in New York after playing in San Diego for nine seasons.

"It was pretty tough, but when it comes down to it, you’ve got to go with your gut feeling, no matter what," Tomlinson said. "You’ve just got to go with a feel, and that’s what I did."

Tomlinson said Favre did not give any indication if he would be returning to the Vikings for this season, and Tomlinson out of respect he didn’t ask.

"He didn’t give me a clue at all what he was thinking," Tomlinson said.

Although those last two lines are total BS. LT out of respect for Favre won’t say to the media what Favre thinks he will do. It’s not that LT has no clue himself; it’s just that he’s not gonna share his clue with the media.

Class act.

by puddnhead on Mar 16, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

True that puddnhead...

I doubt Favre’s out there trying a pitch to get LT, without giving a little hint about his future plans.

by dsludo on Mar 16, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

The phone call (or whatever) itself is a huge hint.

If he wasn’t coming back, why would he seek LT out to give his thoughts? If retirement was remotely likely I could see Brett answering LT’s questions about the city, the coach, the organization if LT found him and asked, but I can’t see him picking up the phone and lobbying LT to go to Minny unless he was at least leaning towards coming back. If that wasn’t the case, why would he care enough to pick up the phone?

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 17, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know what's funny?

Well it would be more funny to me, than to you. But if Favre does retire, it shows that he still has loyalties to this organization even after his football career. That in itself should piss off your average packers fan. :D

But, I’m guessing he comes back, so that scenario won’t play itself out.

by dsludo on Mar 17, 2010 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually...

… now that I think of it, my guess is that he will feel some loyalty to the Vikings after he goes. Why wouldn’t he? They gave him the chance to piss in Thompson’s corn flakes. That takes away from the argument I made above, but I still think the call suggests he’s basically assuming he’s coming back.

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 18, 2010 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

When Favre retires

He’ll (after everyone is SURE he has retired) sigh the typical 1 day contract & retire as Packer. Because in the end, $ are what matters. Favre won’t be involved in actual football operations in either place, so it won’t matter except for the merchandising.

The only way a wrinkle forms in this plan is if Favre does come back, and the stars all align just right & the Vikes win that elusive superbowl. Then … Viking Favre merchandise will be worth a lot of money, for a long time, to Zygi, and he and Favre will both want to eat from that pie.

by puddnhead on Mar 18, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hope he doesn't...

But if he does….What I think he should do, if he insists on retiring as a Packer….I think they should get that 1 day contract ready to sign. One can assume that at some point in time Ted won’t be part of the packers organization any more. The day after Ted leaves, have Favre sign that 1 day contract.

That would be my hope, but I know it won’t happen.

by dsludo on Mar 18, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope he doesn't too.

If he wants to be a Viking, be a Viking. I’m hoping he goes into the hall as a Viking with a purple tie on too.

But it would be kind of funny if he signed a 1 day contract with the Packers after Thompson left, particularly if Thompson sticks until Favre is 50.

But I think puddn’s hypotheses are the two likely outcomes.

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 18, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

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