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Hey, everybody!  We are all still alive over here, but as the least exciting off-season in Minnesota Vikings history continues to plod along, there really hasn't been a heck of a lot to say about things, to be honest.  So just to let everyone know that we're still here, I'm just going to toss out a few random thoughts for discussion, ridicule, scorn, derision, whatever.

I really haven't mentioned a whole lot from my own perspective about LaDainian Tomlinson passing on signing with Minnesota in favor of going to the New York Jets.  The more I think about it, the less surprised I actually am by his actions.  LT2 probably sees a real, honest-to-goodness opportunity to still be the #1 guy in New York, while he knew darn well he was never going to assume that role in Minnesota, barring injury.  I suppose that when you've been one of the best backs in the league for as long as LT2 has and have carved out a Hall of Fame career, it's hard to make yourself realize that you may not have as much left in the tank as you think.  (See also:  Smith, Emmitt)  Shonn Greene is a nice running back and everything, but really. . .he's no Adrian Peterson.  Tomlinson knows that.

I'm actually much more puzzled by this move from a Jet perspective, to be honest.  They had an outstanding back in Thomas Jones, who turns 32 this August.  Jones had 1,402 yards on 331 carries (4.2 ypc) and put the ball in the end zone 14 times in 2008.  Yet the word was that they weren't willing to give Jones the same sort of money they gave Tomlinson.  Tomlinson turns 31 in June, and last season gained 730 yards on 222 carries (3.3 ypc) while scoring 12 touchdowns.  Now, I know that San Diego's run blocking was pretty atrocious last year, but is Tomlinson really that big an upgrade over Jones at this point?

Star-divide

In any event, this really doesn't hurt the Vikings a great deal.  To date, from their roster last year, they've lost a third-down running back, a backup offensive lineman, and a cornerback that may or may not still have burn marks on him from various Baltimore Ravens receivers inflicted back in Week 6.  Yes, sites like Pro Football Talk might be saying that the Vikings "aren't getting better" and so forth and so on. . .really, what are the Vikings supposed to do?  Who are these players that the Vikings are supposed to be throwing money at to make themselves better?  Brian Westbrook, who gets a concussion every time you tap him on the shoulder?  If I'm the Vikings, I may poke around at guys like Phillip Buchanon for the secondary or Justin Fargas to take a spot in the backfield, but for the Vikings it's pretty much time to focus on the draft, in my opinion.

 

--Speaking of the draft, Capital J brings up a point about that guy we drafted in the first round last season.  There are folks out there that would like to see Percy Harvin take over the role of Minnesota's third-down running back.  To which I can only say. . .ugh, no, terrible idea, awful idea, and so forth.

The occasional lining up of Percy Harvin in the backfield is a great idea, certainly.  He's a nice change of pace from Adrian Peterson, and he gained pretty significant yardage on running plays last season.  That being said, I don't like the idea of lining him up in the backfield more than a couple of times a game, and certainly not in the third down role, where he's going to be asked to pick up blitzes and stuff like that in addition to carrying the ball and catching passes.  On third downs, Percy Harvin needs to be lined up wide or lined up in the slot 90-95% of the time.  That way, he's putting downfield pressure on defenses, and he's creating mismatches with linebackers and safeties that can't cover him.  Putting him in the backfield more than a couple of times a game would make him much less effective, in my opinion.

Yes, Percy Harvin should probably get the ball more often than he does, I think we can all agree on that.  Just not in the role of third-down back.

--It's beginning to look more and more like the Vikings are going to be kicking off the regular season schedule with a trip to New Orleans on 9 September.  Just doing a quick scan of the Saints' possible home opponents for 2010, the teams that will be traveling to the Big Easy are Minnesota, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Seattle, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Carolina, and Atlanta.  Out of those eight games, there are only two that look to be even mildly intriguing from a network perspective, those being the matchups against the Vikings and the Steelers.

And color me skeptical on this if you'd like. . .but I really, really don't think that the NFL has any intention of putting Ben Roethlisberger into any sort of featured situation any time soon, do you?  I mean, putting Roethlisberger on Bourbon Street alone is going to be a hellish enough situation, given his apparent inability to keep his Little Ben in his pants.  So, I would be willing to wager that the NFL season opener is going to be a rematch of the NFC Championship Game.  Now, let's hope that the NFL gets someone other than last year's Stevie Wonder/Ronnie Milsap/Jose Feliciano-led officiating crew to call this one.

-On a non-football related note, the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament is a lot of fun. . .but wouldn't it be so much better if we had an antiquated bowl-type system like college football does?  Wouldn't that make the regular season mean so much more?

(Hope the sarcasm came through okay there.)

Seriously, I don't watch a whole lot of college basketball these days, but the tournament is still, quite frankly, the best championship process in all of sports.  I only filled out one bracket this year (and none for money), which tells you how much attention I've paid to everything.  I did almost manage to lose half of my National Championship Game two hours into the early session when Villanova was struggling with something called Robert Morris, but they pulled through.  Also managed to pick the Murray State upset over Vanderbilt, too.  Overall, I went 10/16 in yesterday's action, losing one Elite Eight team (thank you very much, Georgetown), and having my Final Four (Kansas, Syracuse, Villanova, and Kentucky) intact.  How'd everyone else do on Day One?

Oh, and as I type this, our friends over at The Daily Gopher are watching their team in action against the Xavier Musketeers.  With five minutes left in the first half, the Musketeers and the Gophers are currently tied at 19.

That's all for now, folks. . .hopefully business will really be picking up again around here sometime in the very near future.

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I don't see

LT as the start with the Jets. I see him as a backup to Shone Greene. Shone Greene is the man who replaced TJ. I think LT will spell off Greene and provide insurance in case they are unable to sign Leon Washington.

LT is also familiar with the offense and, again just my opinion, he probably will expect to get touches as a receiver out of the backfield and to work as a pass blocker.

I may be old but I... oh d*mn, I forgot what I was going to say.

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Mar 19, 2010 12:33 PM CDT reply actions  

NY is a great fit for LT. Great line, familiar playbook and a chance to start.
I don’t understand why TJ got moved. He doesn’t get any love wherever he goes. The man can play, but never gets the respect he deserves.

I’ll give my props to Greene when he proves himself. Right now all we know is he started for 1 year at Iowa and came in late in the season for NY. Good numbers both times, but I don’t know if I believe that is who he is yet. He was fresh when everyone else had a year of wear on them. We’ll see I guess.

by Arsist on Mar 19, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

From what i've heard about the Jets releasing Jones

Apparently it was for Salary reasons, as their saving money

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Mar 19, 2010 12:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Like You

I was 10/16 after yesterday. G-Town choked but my final four are still intact.

This off-season has been a drag. Let’s move onto the draft, training camp and opening day.

"Skol Vikings! Let's win this game Skol Vikings!

by DaRange on Mar 19, 2010 1:17 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't blame LT for going to NY.

At this point in his career, LT doesn’t want to learn a new system. He knows the offense NY uses, and he’s comfortable with their OC.

P.Harvin. I wouldn’t change much with him either. Except I would try to get him the ball a little more. but like you said, not as the 3rd down RB.
With a full season under his belt, (plus a couple Playoff games).
I expect Harvin to have an even better year than last year, but we’ll need Favre back to get him the ball.

The Saints. I hope they explode, or implode ?….not sure, but either way I want them to have a losing season.
Same goes for the Steelers. Not because of Big Ben’s sexual misconduct, but the Steelers have won enough for now, and Big Ben already has 2 Rings. If he gets another ring, the NFL will most like put Big Ben in HOF and we all know he don’t belong there. :)

I wish it was April 22nd. It would be warmer outside, and we would be watching the NFL Draft instead of college B-Ball.

by chaosg on Mar 19, 2010 2:06 PM CDT reply actions  

LT

I know that I am in the minority but I was thankful LT didn’t sign. I watched a few SD games last year and he has lost his explosiveness and I don’t think he is worth the money. I think they can get the same performance from a third down back by drafting one in rounds 3-5. I know it isn’t as exciting, but at the end of the year they will probably have about the same yards and TD in that limited yet important role. Either way I think it is a downgrade from what we had in Taylor.

by Breaking Ankles on Mar 19, 2010 2:07 PM CDT reply actions  

LT needs a line at this point in his career. This is something the Vikings can’t provide. I don’t care what people say, McKinnie is a waste and Birk is sorely missed.

Also, just about everyone is a downgrade from CT!

by Arsist on Mar 19, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Birk doesn't add much...

That you can’t get from Hutch. The only upside I saw from Birk was that he was a veteran which Hutch also has…now that Sullivan has a year under his belt (and he played pretty well), I couldn’t be happier that Birk made the wrong choice b/c we have a great C playing right now.

by urluckyday on Mar 20, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would like to see

the rookies play at RB. I know on 3rd down you may not want to depend upon a rookie to make the play, but these guys need to show they can play or why do we have them? Bell and Johnson I mean. That or play them in an earlier down and move AD into 3rd down’s which I like as well.

it is better to be thought of as dumb then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Ben Franklin

by montana vikes fan on Mar 19, 2010 2:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Young not bell

I meant young and johnson

it is better to be thought of as dumb then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Ben Franklin

by montana vikes fan on Mar 20, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lt/hawkeye love

I’m glad Minnesota didn’t sign L.T. But mainly cause I’d love to see Albert Young get a chance. And plus outside of Shonn Greene getting injured, he has nothing to worry about. L.T just doesn’t have it anymore. Admittedly I don’t think Greene is a long term solution for the jets but they will definetly get 3-4 good years out of him.

by HawkeyeVikingTwinsUnited on Mar 19, 2010 3:32 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Not a fan of opening up at New Orleans

I agree that that’s the likely scenario, but as the season grows later in the year, that’s one less dome/warm weather site the Vikes won’t be able to use. WIth games against the NFC East, it looks more and more likely that a good part of Minnesota’s November and December will be outside, on grass.

The 2010 schedule is a lot tougher than 2009, and it will be interesting to see how the schedule plays out.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Mar 19, 2010 4:44 PM CDT reply actions  

A Big Fan of Opening at NO Responds...

The sooner the Vikings beat the crap out of the Saints the better.

I would prefer playing all sixteen regular season games against the Saints, giving them the top draft choice for 2011, while securing homefield advantage for the Vikings in the playoffs.

by Elgar on Mar 21, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pittsburgh will be opening up at home

from what I heard from the Strib. That just makes it all that much more likely we play them to kick off the season. Hey, maybe we’ll get a turn in overtime next season.

by StuckInCA on Mar 19, 2010 6:48 PM CDT reply actions  

or

maybe we wont turn the ball over 5 times, and actually kick their ass’s 38-14 in regulation. :)

by chaosg on Mar 19, 2010 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't that be a site

The writers at the Strib wrote this just in time.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/blogs/88561647.html?elr=KArksU9PmP:QiU47cQUU

I guess I am for this. Idk how prepared Favre will be and it would be a shame if the team wasn’t in sync, BUT, if we did play this game, our season starts that much sooner :D

by StuckInCA on Mar 19, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Too little, too late.

Kicking the Saints butts in the season opener would be nice, but it’s nothing compared to them beating us in the NFCCG.
Win or Lose, they’ll throw their Lombardi in our faces.

Favre & Co should be fine. As long as they don’t have a bunch of injuries in Mankato or the pre-season, the Offense should pick right up from last year.

by chaosg on Mar 19, 2010 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

you’re probably right. I’m not one for giving up an opportunity for revenge too

by StuckInCA on Mar 19, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Vikes beat Atlanta in Atlanta to open up the 1999 season

and there was no satisfaction in that. At all. Just a win.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Mar 20, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1 its not the playoffs, not the same.

One power slam from Brock and Mir might be dead. He better watch his words. He'll be eating them soon.

by VikesPma on Mar 20, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Draft

Minnesota is seriously considering drafting Tebow in the 1st Round and they are not alone. All this talk about 2nd and 3rd or later rounds by teams is hogwash and posturing. If he get s close to our number at 30 the Vikes will even consider trading up. Watch.

by IndyVikefan on Mar 19, 2010 7:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I think Tebow is gone before pick #20

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Mar 19, 2010 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

The Vikings will have to move up now. He made a lot of progress in the past 6 weeks since the Senior Bowl and he looked really good at Florida’s Pro Day.

The caveat, however, is the expected issue; towards the end of his workout, he was tired and starting to revert to old bad habits. Clearly he’s still got a lot of work to do, but the effort he’s made so far and his motivation makes him worth the risk.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Mar 20, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Vikes better take a CB or S

In the first round. If Tebow were there late in the second than fine, but he probably wont be. CBs Kyle Wilson, Devin McCourty will hopfully be available. IF S Mays or Thomas slips, which they probably won’t the Vikes should pull the trigger.

CB or S is the Vikings biggest need so I hope they address it.

One power slam from Brock and Mir might be dead. He better watch his words. He'll be eating them soon.

by VikesPma on Mar 20, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

March Madness

So far, I have all my elite eight times in the tourney. My final four is:Kansas, KSU, Baylor and Kentucky.

Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable. ~Mark Twain

by GB Nordic on Mar 19, 2010 9:41 PM CDT reply actions  

I've got Kentucky, Kansas, Syracuse, and Baylor

And 14 of my final sixteen are in.

And I don’t know jack about college basketball.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Mar 19, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

LTchasing the ring

he obviously didn’t think N.O. was the answer and that says something. I heard pittsburg is lobbying to play their first 3 at home. Also the jets and giants may play bback to back sunday and monday of the first week and the vikes are said to be in consideration for the jets………my UNI PANTHERS in Iowa won in Oklahoma City and face KANSAS on Sat. boy this will be a fun one……wow……….!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by gothicpurple on Mar 20, 2010 7:42 AM CDT reply actions  

biggest problems with vikes

you can probably start with the head coach. talk about a waste. the vikes have picked up some good young guys, but because we don’t have a coaching staff that knows how to teach in their coaching we are going to always be wanna be and just falling short. i mean look at it. when chilly got here he was suppose to be a great qb coach and teacher. ha look at t jack. he does have some talent but it has ben wasted over the years because he doesn’t have a person to teach him how to handle pressure, read defenses, and utilize his receivers. now he has been through the wringer so bad that keeping him around is a waste for him and us. another example is adrian. it is time to break him down and teach him the basics. anyone who knows anything about football knows that you move the ball to the side that has the sideline. adrian doesn’t he keeps the ball the same. BASICS. we need coaching that needs to teach not inflate egos.

by rrjj on Mar 20, 2010 11:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Are you kidding me

Chilly is a good coach. Through his four seasons he has consistantly improved his team and has drafted as good as any team in the NFL since he has been in Minny.

One power slam from Brock and Mir might be dead. He better watch his words. He'll be eating them soon.

by VikesPma on Mar 20, 2010 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Movement to Oust the Chillster

has failed miserably. You people can’t do anything right.

Chilly laughs all off-season at home by watching old films of home fans taunting him while he chants, “Kiss my grits! Kiss my grits!”

Eat your heart out, Chilly haters.

Chilly has himself a brand new contract and will be the head coach when the Vikings leave for California.

by Elgar on Mar 21, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

-1 Vikes leave for California

The Vikings are staying in Minnesota!

One power slam from Brock and Mir might be dead. He better watch his words. He'll be eating them soon.

by VikesPma on Mar 21, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

What coach is going to make T Jack any better?

None. Chilly has done as much as he can with him.

Look what the coaching staff has done. Constantly make the team better and bring in the talent to do so.

rrjj – what would you say about a coach that didn’t consistanly make their team better every year? Lets appreciate what we have. A championship contending team with Chilly being as big a part of that as anyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One power slam from Brock and Mir might be dead. He better watch his words. He'll be eating them soon.

by VikesPma on Mar 20, 2010 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

LT

the fact we didn’t get LT was many factors. i think the biggest was that he didn’t like adrian. everyone remebers his comments last year . right. and he knew he had a better chance at being the starter with the jets. i think the viks aren’t bad recruiters. i think it has more to do with not letting chilly have any say in it. also why have we not gone after some quality dbs this year. its what we need most. we are not going to get some one from the draft. expecially with this non teaching coaching team. also on a different not when are we getting rid of mckinney. from day one most overrated ot in the nfl. being a big fat guy that pepole have to run around doesn’t make you a good ot. evrey de that has speed makes him look as bad as he is

by rrjj on Mar 20, 2010 11:55 AM CDT reply actions  

deep pass recievers

Okay heres a taste Percy Harvin, Sidney Rice & for about a mill or 2 TO
lets get some response with Brett at QB come its a choice stop AP or the wide outs To would add so much if he behaved

by boogiewolf on Mar 21, 2010 2:49 AM CDT reply actions  

TO

TO would be bettaer then LT

by boogiewolf on Mar 21, 2010 2:51 AM CDT reply actions  

wide outs

really To Percy Harvin & Sidney Rice come on that would be the scariest recieving in the NFL

by boogiewolf on Mar 21, 2010 2:56 AM CDT reply actions  

imagine

TO Sidney Rice & Percy Harvin in the same line Up with Ap in the backfield if that wouldnt bring Brett back nothing would.

by boogiewolf on Mar 21, 2010 2:59 AM CDT reply actions  

TO

al you gotta say to To is do you want a Super Bowl; or not

by boogiewolf on Mar 21, 2010 3:09 AM CDT reply actions  

TO

is nobody gonna challage

by boogiewolf on Mar 21, 2010 3:19 AM CDT reply actions  

TO

has TO signed with anybody else

by boogiewolf on Mar 21, 2010 3:20 AM CDT reply actions  

TO

I mean he played in Buffola to play on a contending team he might behave

by boogiewolf on Mar 21, 2010 3:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Tebow is not what we need...

Will not be a good pro ar QB…Agree with above..We need CB and S…..Also OF Guard and linebacker wld be good…

by WVVikings on Mar 21, 2010 3:24 AM CDT reply actions  

Quarterback

Brett Farve was a lte pickup

by boogiewolf on Mar 21, 2010 3:26 AM CDT reply actions  

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