Whew! Tye Hill DOES NOT, repeat, DOES NOT sign with the Vikings!

by Ted Glover on Mar 30, 2010 9:43 PM CDT in Minnesota Vikings

I have nothing against Tye Hill personally. I've never met the guy, and I couldn't pick him out of a lineup. Unless, you know, he robbed me or something and I wasn't packing heat, and they put him in an actual...lineup. I'm sure he's a decent guy in many respects, and has a mom, dad, and siblings that love him, maybe even a wife and kids. But when I heard that the Vikings were kicking the tires on him, one thought kept rolling aropund in my head: pleasenopleasenopleasenopleaseno...PLEASE NO!! Like the great philospopher Garth of the tribe of Okie once said, 'some of the Football Gods greatest Gifts are Unanswered Prayers'. Except this prayer was answered, so scratch that.

I live in St Louis, so that really is my only claim to expertise on one Mr. Hill, formerly of the St. Louis Rams. And he...is...horrid. He's like the love child of Robert Tate and Wasswa Serwanga. What he lacks in coverage skills he makes up for with an uncanny ability to miss a tackle. But here is the most damning statistic of all:

He was released by the St. Louis Rams. Read that again, let it sink in, and digest that, like a day old egg salad sandwich.

He was released...by the St Louis...Rams.

I'm glad the Vikings passed on him. There are much better fish in the sea.

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Dear God..someone please find a pic of this....

He’s like the love child of Robert Tate and Wasswa Serwanga.

"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have"
Thomas Jefferson

by RileysCannibalJct on Mar 30, 2010 10:06 PM CDT reply actions

Look to the Heavens and Be Thankful

Many large asteroids just wander aimlessly through space and do not strike the Earth.

This was one of them.

by Elgar on Mar 30, 2010 10:22 PM CDT reply actions

I had an egg salad sandwich for lunch today...

it was delicious, but it was also fresh.

Thanks for sharing, it’s good to hear that the Vikings remain… ‘picky’.
We don’t need much to continue to be good.

I BELIEVE...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Mar 30, 2010 11:12 PM CDT reply actions

Personally...

I’d rather see them sign somebody to fill our nearly vacant secondary. As much as Hill might be that horrid, he’s by default better than no one (which is pretty much who we have back there at the moment behind Sapp and Allen). Who would you rather have covering Calvin Johnson? Hill or no one?

by Jayrome007 on Mar 30, 2010 11:27 PM CDT reply actions

L.O.L

I will trust the front office’s expertise on this one. We will come away with at least 2 corners in the draft anyway.

by NYCVike on Mar 30, 2010 11:40 PM CDT reply actions

thank you soo much

not only has this post enlightened me on the dangers of egg salad sandwich and the chaos that simply eating one can cause, but to also hate tye hill with a red hot passion. Just wondering, who is tye hill??

by muffin man on Mar 30, 2010 11:42 PM CDT reply actions

oh futurama

Leela: You’re not going to eat a sandwich from a truck stop men’s room, are you?

Fry: Eh. What’s the worst thing that could happen? (takes a bite) Ugh. It’s like a party in my mouth and everyone is throwing up.

Bender: What’s that black cracker?

[Fry eats it.]

Fry: A Tomato

by redhearring on Mar 31, 2010 12:27 AM CDT reply actions

anyone?

by redhearring on Mar 31, 2010 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions

familiar, quite familiar

but who doesn’t love futurama

by muffin man on Mar 31, 2010 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions

At first, I thought it was the Falcons guy in that pic

so I was like “Hmm…” but now I see. Its the man who’s no where near that catch.

by Frost on Mar 31, 2010 5:12 AM CDT reply actions

same here

by muffin man on Mar 31, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions

ditto

Creator of the Cameron Wake "Crossing the Border" Award
Winner of the Pats Pulpit "Best Thread-Jacking" Award
If I bandwagon a player, he'll bust, or do something stupid so...
(Insert snarky, witty saying here)

by Farorefox on Apr 2, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions

KNUCKLEHEADS

By picking up this special teams body with a former 1st rd grade would free up a spot for a draftable second o-line prospect , WR or pass-blocking TE . Wake up and see the bigger picture on some of these potential signings.

by gothicpurple on Mar 31, 2010 7:02 AM CDT reply actions

Umm...

We already have all our ST players under contract from last year anyway… Except maybe Paymah, but I hate him so much that I don’t care.

by Frost on Mar 31, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions

Paymah is now a 49er. He released a very classy statement about the Vikings, when the Vikings did not extend his contract recently.

by medicineball on Apr 1, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions

Yep. Classy.

Paymah said he never considered Minnesota to be a long-term destination. “It’s not somewhere you want to stay for a long period of time,” Paymah said. “One day I got stuck outside my house for 10 minutes. I thought I was going to die.” Paymah said he was excited to return to his native California to try to earn a roster spot with the 49ers.

I understand it does get a mite bit nippy in Minnesota, from time to time, lol.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Apr 1, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions

Milcardfan

They have a bum RB by the name Jackson but what I GUESS you are saying you would pass on him too . Get over the Brett Farve white wash about who is playing for who for who . Remember , Sharper was good in Minnie and great in GB & N.O. . Some fit some don’t .

by gothicpurple on Mar 31, 2010 7:09 AM CDT reply actions

They have a bum RB by the name Jackson but what I GUESS you are saying you would pass on him too

If the Rams cut him because he was too crappy to even make THEIR roster, then yes, I’d guess he’d pass on him.

I see a point soaring past through the air… gothicpurple must have missed it.

Get over the Brett Farve white wash about who is playing for who for who .

What?!?

If you can't laugh at yourself... Who can you laugh at?
The Packers, that’s who.
-- The almighty Manimal

by TheViking83 on Mar 31, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions

Bum RB Jackson

Stephen Jackson? All-Pro, 1,200 yard rusher behind one of the worst lines in football? That bum? Sorry, he’s the only talent they have on offense. He’s far from a bum. And no, I would find room for him. Holy crap, can you guys imagine a backfield of Adrian Peterson and Stephen Jackson?

Get over the Brett Farve white wash about who is playing for who for who

What? I’m going to take a stab and say you were referencing my point about a crappy team cutting Tye Hill. That comment was so erudite, that your rebuttal has sailed over my head…my apologies. My point in that was if a crappy team like the Rams has no use for him, then a roster with as much talent as the Vikings shouldn’t need him, so take a pass, as Viking83 also said.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Mar 31, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions

In general I follow that line of thinking as well (about a crappy team releasing a player) though in some cases they could be stronger at ONE position than the far superior team. I don’t think that is the case here but sometimes it could be…I don’t know why they cut him either…maybe they were just cutting some salary or losing a bad attitude.

Either way, I doubt your team will miss him.

by TrevorR on Apr 1, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm glad they took a look.

Tye Hill was the fastest person at the 2006 NFL Combine.
Tye Hill was drafted 15th overall in the 2006 draft.
Tye Hill had a knee injury in 2007.
Tye Hill was just released by the Falcons who have a need for a CB
Tye Hill is 5’10, 185 lbs, and not a good tackler.

I would have taken a look at this guy to see if he cold improve in a Tampa 2 system. I’m really glad we looked. I’m really glad we passed on him. He has been awful for the last three seasons.

Winning is not everything but it sure feels like it sometimes

by lifelongvike on Mar 31, 2010 9:30 AM CDT reply actions

See Tye run

See Tye run fast…after the receiver he was covering just caught the ball and is heading unmolested into the end zone.

The Rams haven’t had a good draft since the early Aughts. I mean seriously, their recent draft history is more disastrous than Gallipoli.

See Tye Run not as fast…after the receiver he was covering just caught the ball and is heading unmolested into the end zone.

See Tye get released by TWO bad to average teams that both need DB help.

I’m glad they passed as well.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Mar 31, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions

+1, WWI reference

by medicineball on Apr 1, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions

Hey MilCardFan, so your reaction against him was purely about playing ability, and not anything “extracurricular” (off field)? I think that’s what you’re saying, but that packing heat reference I thought might have a point. Just his playing ability is enough to justify your reaction, but I’m trying to figure out if there is more.

by puddnhead on Mar 31, 2010 10:02 AM CDT reply actions

you're reading way too much into it (like usual)

it was a joke. Not a very good one, but a joke nonetheless.

If you can't laugh at yourself... Who can you laugh at?
The Packers, that’s who.
-- The almighty Manimal

by TheViking83 on Mar 31, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions

Ouch. Not very good?

Okay, the joke sucked. But yeah, it was a (lame) joke.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Mar 31, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions

Hey, at least you have company!

He took a slap at me too with the “as usual” thing.

Anyway, thanks for clarifying.

by puddnhead on Mar 31, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't know that there actually are any better fish in the sea now

but we’re not exactly throwing the line out too often either.

I’m glad we didn’t sign Hill but our lack of movement has made it too dependent on the draft for a starting nickel corner (if not starting #1 or #2 depending on injuries yet to be fully resolved). That couldn’t backfire could it?

I just have this fear that we start Allen at CB while Griffin is recovering, he gets beaten badly, and we have to throw good money after someone worse than Hill to bail us out.

Not that there was ever really a lot our there to sign, but we’re playing with fire counting on a rookie to contribute in a meaningful way imo.

by Bodysuit Man on Mar 31, 2010 10:25 AM CDT reply actions

Good points

About not throwing the line out, but Tye Hill is defintely not the answer. I think the VIkings had a couple of non-productive years from guys that were an anomaly…at least I hope they were. Madieu WIlliams, for example. Had a solid 2008 but slumped in 2009. I think he’ll bounce back. And I guess I’ll disagree about Asher Allen. I thought he struggled early, but was playing decent football by the end of the year. Winfield had a down year due to injury, and Benny Sapp actually played well as a replacement, and will be okay as an interim starter if Cedric Griffin isn’t ready to go.

Valid point about having to rely on a lot of youth in the backfield, but Tyrell Johnson is a year older and should improve, Winfield will be back, Griffin will be back early in the season, and Sapp can hold down the fort until he does. The only spot where we might be relying on youth is the nickel slot, and then only until Griff returns. And if they draft a DB high enough, whoever that is will have more raw talent than Tye Hill, and will get solid coachiong under Leslie Frazier.

I think it’ll be okay.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Mar 31, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions

Here are the questions

Why did Madieu have a down year? Was it the fact that another guy named Williams just can’t get any good press coverage on the Vikings? Or is it a football related answer.

How bad is the injury to Griff and will he be the same after recovery?

Has Winfield really 100% recovered from his injury.

Carolina has a 2nd round tendered RFA named Richard Marshall that is a pretty good cover guy. I wouldn’t mind an experienced guy in the rotation just in case. Rookies might have talent but that doesn’t always translate to success. Just ask Mr. Tye Hill.

Winning is not everything but it sure feels like it sometimes

by lifelongvike on Mar 31, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions

Marshall would be an excellent addition

Why has Madieu had 2 down years? Sure, he was injured some in ‘08, but he was supposed to have been better than that while healthy, and he wasn’t.

#2-3 The Vikes should draft as though neither will make a meaningful contribution at the CB position again (but move to S when healthy).

I like him a lot dating back to the 2006 draft when I wished the Vikes had selected him instead of Cedric Griffin.

by KC Viking on Mar 31, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions

Madieu Williams

Why did Madieu have a down year? Was it the fact that another guy named Williams just can’t get any good press coverage on the Vikings? Or is it a football related answer.

That’s one of the questions that’s bothered me. I didn’t pay much attention to the what the media said about him, but I did watch his coverage play. He was mediocre at best until the post-season when he seemed to catch some fire and start making plays. Not spectacular, but solid.

Looking at his stats he was a fairly solid tackler; did better than Charles Woodson and not far behind Griff. But he has not a single interception or even a single pass defended. The #40th ranked secondary man in the NFL for the regular season, not very impressive. It seems to me that he specializes in Prevent-D, not even making an attempt at interfering with the receiver until after the ball is caught. Yes, I know Tampa-2 doesn’t do man-coverage but to have not a single pass defended all season long, let alone an interception?

I’m not a fan of that.

Is William’s performance indicative of his talent, or is it Frazier’s scheme that keeps Madieu so far back he doesn’t show up except as the final ‘back-stop’?

by DCPurple on Apr 1, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions

Asher Allen

I have faith in him.

by medicineball on Apr 1, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions

it's official

we wont be able to wrangle this “player”

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ark6SFjvVd8o5rkw2Vsmi3BDubYF?slug=ap-titans-hill

good look Tennessee

by muffin man on Mar 31, 2010 12:17 PM CDT reply actions

Jimmy Kennedy

was also a Rams castoff, and Vikings fans have grown to love him so much that many DN posters even think of him as the answer to Pat Williams’s retirement.

If JK can improve outside of StL, then it makes sense to at least take a look at T. Hill.

To those who say that T. Hill could not improve, I expect to hear nothing about Tarvaris Jackson improving ever again.

Look at the silver lining, folks: the Vikings have come to terms that the actually need a speedy coverage CB!

by KC Viking on Mar 31, 2010 1:36 PM CDT reply actions

I don't know about love

He ia a good rotation guy that’s played well in certain situations. And with the retirement of Pat Williams on the horizon, and possible suspensions of both Pat and Kevin Williams looming, it made sense to bring Jimmy Kennedy back.

I think both DT and DB are deep in the draft this year, and by retaining a known quantity in Kennedy, they can go after a DB to fill the secondary holes in the draft.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Mar 31, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions

Medicineball, VikingTW11, and CitrusFLViking (or something like that) are just a few who referred to his re-signing as important and to him as the heir apparent to Phat Pat Williams.

That would be similar to someone saying that Bennie Sapp was the heir apparent to Antoine Winfield. It just doesn’t happen, and it shouldn’t.

It did make sense to bring JK back with the possibility of suspensions looming, but nobody discussed that.

by KC Viking on Mar 31, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions

Hell, even if the suspensions weren't looming

I think they would have resigned him. He’s played pretty good ball for us as a reserve, no doubt about it.

by Frost on Mar 31, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions

If they just wanted to plug a hole, they could have offered Kennedy a one-year contract. They gave him two years which means he could be the heir apparent to Pat Williams. I wouldn’t call him a stone cold lock on that, but he has the opportunity if he can take it.

by medicineball on Apr 1, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions