2010 NFL Draft: Rounds Two and Three Open Discussion
by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 3:39 PM CDT
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Alright, folks, we're about an hour and a half away from the start of this evening's festivities. The Vikings, having traded out of the first round, are set to pick second in Round Two. . .provided that they don't trade out of that spot, too, which is entirely possible. Accounts are that St. Louis GM Billy DeVaney has said that he "would be surprised if the Rams stayed at #33," which may or may not be a smokescreen to try to get teams to jump over the Vikings, who may or may not be interested in Notre Dame quarterback Jimmy Clausen.
Man, I love the draft.
I, personally, am hoping for Clausen at #34. Why? Well, this team needs a QB of the future, for starters, and Clausen is the most pro-ready quarterback available. That and I found this little article about the ridiculousness of the Clausen hatred that's out there, and the fact that he made it through three years at Notre Dame alive is amazing to me, particularly when you consider. . .
Clausen never shared a backfield with a 1,000-yard rusher.
No running back eclipsed 700 rushing yards while Clausen was at Notre Dame.
No running back had a run longer than 27 yards during Clausen's final two years at Notre Dame.
No running back topped five rushing touchdowns during Clausen's career.
The team as a whole never scored more than 13 rushing touchdowns.
Non-quarterbacks never accounted for more than 11 touchdowns in a season.
Clausen's running game (excluding quarterbacks) averaged 3.56, 3.57, and 4.8 YPC during his career.
Clausen's offensive line gave up a school-record 58 sacks in 2007.
At least three members of that offensive line were still starting his junior year.
Clausen had three different left tackles and three different centers over his collegiate career.
There's a lot more in the article. Sufficient to say, we could do a whole lot worse for ourselves than to take Jimmy Clausen at #34, in my opinion.
But, that's part of the intrigue of the draft, folks. . .none of us really know anything until someone goes to the podium with that card and reads the name off of it. Hopefully the Vikings will be in the thick of the action all night long this evening.
As much fun as last night was, I'm afraid I won't be doing the "Gonzonalysis" that I was doing last night. . .reason being that there's less time to do it (7 minutes between picks in Round Two, 5 minutes in Round Three and beyond), and the fact that the site really, really got bogged down last night during the draft. So, I'll just be hanging out in the comments section with everyone else. Hope to see a bunch of you here. . .should be a lot of fun!
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last night after Denver got Tebow,I was hoping we get McCoy but now i’m hoping we get Clausen at #34 and McCluster at #62
Clausen
Im gonna go on record as saying that Jimmy Clausen should be a Viking. Like, move up to get him.
Skol Vikings!!
Will be back in time
For the start of tonight’s fun. . .need to run a quick errand before that happens, though.
Enjoy the anticipation!
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 3:52 PM CDT reply actions
No Clausen ...
The latest buzz is the “Clausen buzz is dying down” which means it’s actually probably doing the opposite behind closed doors where it matters.
I would like to see Minnesota trade down again, or take a good O-lineman – you can never have too many, and that is really what makes all the difference between a consistent and average offense – not so much the QB.
The great thing about trading down when you have a solid team like Minnesota, is that you can build great depth, which is really the thing that wins Super Bowls, and the players cost much, much less, making signing them far quicker and easier.
I wouldn’t mind seeing a solid linebacker also – maybe Kindle???
Clausen is the most pro-ready quarterback available
I am trying to understand why the Vikigns need a “pro-ready” quarterback.
We have 2-3 pro-ready quarterbacks. What we need is a developmental quarterback, and those can be had much cheaper than a #34 pick.
Completely Agree ...
Tavaris is entering the prime of his career with low miles on him. I’d feel much more comfortable with TJ than a collegiate prospect that no GM seems to think is very good.
Could Clausen be the next Tom Brady or Ryan Leaf???
I would like to see.......
The Vikings go the BPA route for the Pick they got from the Lions… Whether that be a CB, Offensive lineman, or even a linebacker. I would rather see them taking their original 2nd round pick & move up to grab a QB.
I wouldn’t be surprised if some team tries to grab the Rams spot in fear of us taking a QB.. Should be interesting if it does happen since we’ll know we have a really really good chance at grabbing whoever we want at that spot.
Whoever we think is the best on the board and a perfect Vikings fit — We’re very very likely to get them.
words of wisdom...
But, that’s part of the intrigue of the draft, folks. . .none of us really know anything…(period).
i’m not sure of us picking clausen, but i did notice that his stats improved noticably every year. and, i think he showed quiet toughness last year with the toe injury.
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
We disagree on a need for a QB this year.
But that debates been raging for awhile here at DN. Our opinions of the talent possessed by Mr. Clausen is also different. :-) I hope we go DB (Mays) at 34 and OL at 62.
Whatever happens; it should be fun to discuss actual picks versus potential picks tonight.
I can talk myself into Clausen if that's who they pick
I mean, I cheered for Jeff George in 1999. I can cheer for his mini-me. But one thing keeps nagging me about the Vikes picking Clausen: Chilly would be admitting failure with Tarvaris Jackson.
I don’t think he will, for two reasons. One, benching Jackson for a year or two might be the thing that gets him to be a good quarterback. Hey, it worked for Aaron Rodgers. Two, and most importantly, Chilly would admity failure if he were to essentially draft TJ’s replacement.
And Chilly is infallible when it comes to evaluating quarterbacks. Just ask him, he’ll tell you. ;)
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
Ya..
I mean, what’s the point of having T-Jack sit behind Favre for a year or two? You know he is learning from “The Great”, you know he is getting more confidence, you know he wants that starting position really bad, you know his experience in garbage time has helped him tremendously……
What does that say about T-Jack is we draft a QB?? That we intend to keep him as a career back-up or put him on the trading block… Let’s not pull a Brad Johnson here.. If we molded T-Jack into what he could become, I’d hate to trade him off and watch him win a Superbowl.
So the development process took longer… Well, with a QB it should.. Knowing the plays, being able to make the reads of defense, etc. That’s a lot to know…
If T-Jack has time to play as back-up to Favre for 1 more year, I could see him doing great things in the following seasons (If given the chance)… However, I just don’t think he’ll be great this year if he was thrown to the Dogs… He would do okay, but we need a great QB…
I agree with you
that if Clausen would benefit from backing up Favre for a year; then T-Jack backing him up for two years is twice as good. Right?
Yes & No
Depends on the player’s learning curve..
I think T-Jack would have the lead with that being an experienced Viking.
Clausen would be coming in being pretty inexperienced.
With this logic, Sage could technically be better than T-Jack, but we can’t see it in pre-season due to Sage needing to learn routes to plays, connecting with receivers and so forth…
I think T-Jack mostly lacked confidence…. I think the confidence factor is what really hurt his play. Look at Favre, people say he has a big ego… If that be the case, I hope he does, because its the confidence that helps him make plays…
TJACK
Career Backup is written all over him. When the Vikings MOVED UP to draft him from a Div. IIA Alabama State I was and am still angry. Clausen came from a big time program, with real competition, having to compete in the spotlight.
Was on the fence of getting/noit getting a QB this yr. Clausen fell into our laps, just like AP did when we didnt need a RB. We have 9 picks, use 1 of them to pick our QB now. Still have 8 picks to add depth.
Skol Vikings!!
Gonzo
Great Article u linked to about Jimmy Clausen. Always wondered why no one liked him. Everyone Liking Tebow. starting to realize that Tebow looks like a QB (whatever that means) without having the polish that Clausen has. Clausen has the polish, but doesnt have the right look.
Skol Vikings!!
All of that,
and they were willing to go to the mattresses with him before Favre arrived last season. By all accounts, he had out-played Rosenfels, and they didn’t bring back Gus Frerotte. So maybe TJ is the long term answer, maybe he isn’t, but you would think that with the time and investment they have put into him, they would at least want him around to see if they get a return on the investment.
And yes, I realize I say all of this while pining for Tim Tebow. No, it doesn’t make any sense, and yes, I am a hypocrite.
Those are the first two pre-requisited for bing a blogger.
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
Interesting....
Prior to the off-season training & pre-season games… Childress pursued Favre pretty agressively. When it looked like Favre’s decision was final, after the 1st pre-season game was over, all of a sudden here comes Favre on a plane.
A future HOF compared to an Uncertaintity QB.. I wonder which is the more obvious answer?
Can we give A. Rodgers much credit for his time behind Favre? Maybe so, maybe not, but you know he came out firing pretty good for his first year starting. He improved much his second year as a starter.
This is one reason I find it pretty critical Favre returns… Sage & T-Jack can learn 1 more year under Favre.. In the 2011 draft, we can make the move for a QB, than have a 3-way challenge with Sage, T-Jack, & Rookie QB. — Even w/ the first round rookie QB, I think he would land up as a back-up his first year. T-Jack seems pretty good at beating out his teammates w/ the exception of Favre.
If we’re going for BPA, then it has to be Clausen. Seriously, if we draft somebody else, or trade down and somebody else nabs him, I’m going to be pretty upset. The man is the 2nd best QB in the draft. I doubt Favre’s sticking around after this year, and next draft’s #2 QB isn’t likely to fall to us. Clausen has top 10 talent, and we’d be getting him for a non-crazy rookie contract in the 2nd round. I say pull the trigger.
Solid point, Frost
The Vikes preach BPA every year, and are pretty true to that. But just because Clausen is Mel Kiper’s #1 guy on the board doesn’t mean he’s the Vikings #1 player on the board.
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
He's not just #1 on Kiper's
Mayock also has him as the #1 prospect left in this round. Hell, practically everybody who does mocks has Clausen as #1 left. Personally, I value Mayock’s opinion over Kiper’s. But you’re right, it depends on the viking’s draft board. But I can’t imagine they don’t have him #1.
I disagree that
1. Clausen is the 2nd best QB in the draft.
2. He is BPA.
3. He is a top 10 talent
4. He fits a need.
We will see what the Vikings brass thinks in a little bit.
When I heard Clausen was still there
I think its practically essential the Vikings get him.
I think it’s Rams (Bradford), than you guys. That’s a huge steal, considering I heard someone say the Vikings should move up to get him.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
Go for Clausen, I don’t think we will get a chance at this kind of QB. I think he has a big upside potential and no matter how hard I try, I can’t see TJ being the QB of the future.
just my opinion.
Totally agree
I can see Clausen going to multiple Pro Bowls. I think he’s already better than T-Jack will ever be.
The Colorado Rockies aren't a team, they're an armada.
Clausen
I’m all in. A top 10 pick in the second round is a no brainer folks.
There's a little beserker in all of us!
I think someone pulls the trade trigger with St Louis
and takes him
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
Top 10 talents
that play QB, are not available in the second round. Therefore, I contend that Clausen is not a top 10 talent. :-)
Corey Chavous on NFL Network with Eisen, Mayock, and Billick
It’s a Minnesota Mafia, if you count Mayock as the Vikes pre-season analyst.
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
Awesome
Chavous is an incredibly smart guy. . .even has his own draft site, I think.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, him and Mayock
make Kiper and McShay look like amateur hour. I just wish NFLN would ban Mike Mayock from using the word ‘motor’, unless he were to say:
’I’d like to motorboat Jennifer Tilly.’
That’s it.
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
Don't Like Clausen Idea ..
Again, I just don’t like Clausen. I don’t like the potential for disruption when you begin to have too many cooks. It’s only small possibility, but if Favre struggles for stretches in 2010, what a can of worms it would be to have a big-named QB like Clausen who every talking head would be pointing to. It would kinda be like possessing Adrian Petersen, then drafting a Chris Johnson because he was the BPA. I think BPA is fine, but you have to be smart and realize it may not always be wise to employ that tactic.
NFL Network is saying
That the Rams currently do NOT have a deal for #33 overall.
Remember, it’s only 7 minutes between picks in Round Two.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 4:55 PM CDT reply actions
Remain Calm, all is well11
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
by Ted Glover on Apr 23, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Animal House!
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
Yep
Festivities kick off in about two minutes.
If the Rams don’t have a trade here, I fully expect them to take Golden Tate or Arrelious Benn.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, the Rams are on the clock
It’ll be over soon. It won’t hurt, I promise.
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
Loving the faster pace draft
So glad the days of a 6 hour first round are gone.
+1
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
I'm here guys what's up
Feels like a gameday Sunday!!
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:03 PM CDT reply actions
Drop a Norte Dam Qb
4 another?
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe not
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
links
anyone know of a working link for us here over seas?
NFL.com
Has a watch live link. . .but I don’t know if it works for overseas folks or not.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
works
this one is working. NFL network is blocked
by Iceland-Viking on Apr 23, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
try p2p4u.net
I could do it since I have a video card but it probly wouldn’t be good quailty
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
So no clausen
Trade
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
The Rams have made a pick
I’m guessing it’s a WR. Mayock is thinking Gronkowski, the TE from Arizona.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 5:08 PM CDT reply actions
+1
IDK about Clausen but what the heck I love this team
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow, Rams DIDN'T trade
This will be interesting
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
RAMS OT
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:10 PM CDT reply actions
Good pick by the Rams
Gotta protectt he $50 million dollar man
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
typo
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Now, does Minnesota make a pick here?
Or do they deal out?
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 5:10 PM CDT reply actions
Well, here we go
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
If the Rams couldn't, why would the Vikes be able to?
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
Hopefully
or a trade down
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Uh OH
What wil we do???
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:11 PM CDT reply actions
TJ
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
I was serious
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
LOL
touche
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
Nobody, apparently
No idea why everyone is so afraid of Clausen.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
CB I say
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
Interesting
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
pick is in
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
The pick is in!
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 5:14 PM CDT reply actions
PICKS IN BABI!!!
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:14 PM CDT reply actions
WHY DO IT TAKE AN EXTRA 5 MINS TO ANNOUNCE THE PICK AFTER IT'S MADE?
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:15 PM CDT reply actions
NO JIMMY
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:15 PM CDT reply actions
Chris Cook
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Apr 23, 2010 5:15 PM CDT reply actions
Yes ! I like Cookie
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
great at the combine and big
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
I feel let down.
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Apr 23, 2010 5:16 PM CDT reply actions
Wow....
Kind of surprised that Clausen wasn’t taken.
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
Yea Brett has defentiely told Childress
he is coming back next year. That’s the only explanation.
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:17 PM CDT reply actions
I don't care
Favre is going to leave eventually. I don’t want this next season to be their last hurrah with a decent QB paired with the amazing talent everywhere else on the field.
Maybe Clausen wouldn’t be the QB of the future. It doesn’t make me feel any better about 2012 and beyond though.
I know I feel the same way
That’s Why I said it’s the only explanation
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Well.
Trust in Spielman I guess – for those that wanted someone who could help this year they should be happy
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And I wasn't one of those people
This sucks
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
They cant beat Saints with the pass defense of last year - needed an extra
Cookie
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
That's what they thought last night with Robinson
Weren’t going to let that happen again
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
i loved the crowd reaction...
the deafening silence of heads shaking.
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
Don't Like the Pick ....
I don’t like this pick. I like Cook’s size, but he’s got damned stiff hips. Unless the Vikes are projecting him at Free Safety, which is possible. I would have rather reached on an O-lineman.
The guy who intercepts Favre last
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
mcshay called it
The Hochevar Principle: The future comes to all teams. Some teams wait for it. Those teams finish in last place a lot. -Joe Posnanski
seven reps?
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
LETS GO COLT MCOY
GRAB HIM
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:20 PM CDT reply actions
If we pass on McCoy or Clausen again
I have a feeling We’re going to draft that unknown qb in the laters round. Lets hope Tony Pike be the pick instead of that guy
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Cook, Mays, Clausen
I wud have been happy with either of those choices. We cud have traded down and maybe gotten 1 of those, and maybe none of those. Nice filling of need. Peeps are blinded by Mays athleticism. If Cook doesnt pan out at CB, he can move to FS.
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Seriously? Seriously?
The kid hasn’t even had his press conference yet. Please, let’s hold off all the reports of doom until at least after the mini camp.
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
As odd
as I find this pick to be, given how well the Vikings have drafted the last few years, I’ll trust Spielman and Chilly until their picks no longer work out before I start to criticise them.
by ViKINGSoftheNORTH on Apr 23, 2010 5:21 PM CDT reply actions
Bucs take Brian Price
Nice little tackle combo between him and McCoy. . .Bucs building that defense from the inside out.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 5:22 PM CDT reply actions
Seriously
Idk how to even feel about the Cook selection. I don’t get how we passed on Clausen.
They must not like the kid, or feel they need a QB
Or, they feel they can trade back up and get him. Or McCoy. Or Tony Pike.
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
just stop it
you’re kidding yourself if you think anyone currently on the roster is the future QB of the Vikings
and you're kidding yourself
if you think Clausen of McCoy etal. can help us win the SB in 2010. And that is what I am concerned with.
We have differing philosophies on draft strategy this year. That’s o.k. It is what makes this format fun. :-)
That doesn't mean QB isn't a need
the Vikings should be fine in 2010 no matter who they draft today. They should have won the Superbowl last year with essentially the same roster they have now. I am not worried about 2010 at all.
But without a replacement for Favre beyond next season the Vikings will be right back where they were 2 years ago. Limited offensively, 10-6, good enough to win a weak division and lose promptly in the playoffs. They’ll be there for perpetuity before they get a real QB again.
The Vikings chances of winning a Super Bowl
would be much better if the establish themselves as an elite team for years than by going all in for a single season.
yes
one of the best teams in a long ass time. Plus there is the favre factor, one more year at the most. The time is now, and think that pick with cook was not a good one
I am all in as well
and that’s why I want them to aim for something like 6 years plus of dominance.
What happens if Favre gets injured next season? What if they fumble the ball 6 times in one game again? What if Harvin gets a migraine and can’t play in the biggest game of the season when the Vikings need him? What if some other team gets career years from everyone, makes absurdly good in-season moves, and just happen to match up perfectly against the Vikings? What if their kicker misses a FG in the NFC Championship game that would send them to the Super Bowl, only to have them lose in OT to a team we all know is inferior? What if he never gets a chance to take the kick because of a 12 men on the field call and an interception?
The Vikings have as good a chance to win next year as anyone but their season can still be derailed easily. It’s much harder to derail a team set up for success for years like the Colts or Patriots have been recently.
If you’ve been waiting 40 years, you can potentially wait another 3 or 4. If you are counting on next year and next year alone, you might never see a Super Bowl win.
They better win this year then
they have too good of a team right now to waste on QBs like TJ and Sage
And now, on cue
The rain is playing havoc with my DirecTV. Damn it.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 5:23 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah, I know
Just a pain in the ass, that’s all.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
now we have
Winfield, griffen, allen, sapp, sheppard and now cook?? Spielman is making it harder to believe him
DB was a need...
not a bad pick. They had this kid in for a private workout. Must have liked something about him.
Yea I thought we drafted on Best available
or close to
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not trying to troll here but
I’m really surprised about that Chris Cook pick. Especially when it seems like his best bet would be to play SS, I’m not impressed with the coverage skills. I think you could have gotten Cook later in the draft. No Clausen?
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Apr 23, 2010 5:24 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah, we're still sorting it out here
Not sure how to feel. The only explanation is that the Vikes feel TJ is their heir apparent to Favre, and went need in DB over BPA, which is what they have stuck to the last few years pretty consistently.
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
I do think TJ is a good QB.
Regardless it must be nice to actually have picks in the 2nd round, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Bears trade down.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Apr 23, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd rather see a saftey get selected with that first pick rather than
Cb
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:25 PM CDT reply actions
I gotta ask man.
Is your name because of the Frank Zappa song?
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Apr 23, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Well at least you know who Zappa is.
That’s a plus.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Apr 23, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
i was hoping for morgan burnett if they didn't reade down
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
Dexter McCluster to Kansas City
Interesting pick, particularly after they signed Thomas Jones and Jamaal Charles tore it up last year.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 5:26 PM CDT reply actions
When is our next selection?
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:26 PM CDT reply actions
#62 overall
As of now
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow that's like forever away!
Nope QB is not on our radar
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:28 PM CDT reply actions
Weak Pick
No one is that high on Cook, we could have traded down and gotten him or someone similar later. No one had this guy graded as a late 1st round talent, whereas a lot of people thought Patrick Robinson was a 1st talent, and we passed on him, and got BURNED by the Saints (again).
I hate how Chilly and Frazier go with these “system” (i.e. soft Cover 2) corners who are bigger, but slower, not aggressive in going for INTs and challenging balls. This passive pass D approach is DYING out in the NFL in favor of aggressive man coverage. The Vikes will pay for not adapting.
After they got burned on not getting Robinson, should have reached for a talented OL like Bruce Campbell (a physical freak) or Charles Brown from USC.
What is off Speilmans Big Board?
Campbell? Brown? If so, why?
Sam Bradford is a second
Matt Ryan
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:30 PM CDT reply actions
Why would we draft someone with tackling problems?
I thought that was a big issue on our team already
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:32 PM CDT reply actions
For those of you who think Cook will be a good Safety for us
“Per Nolan Nawrocki of Pro Football Weekly, Cook has the size but not the physicality or aggressiveness to thrive at safety.”
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/23/vikings-pass-on-a-passer/
What a terrible pick. I will be SHOCKED if this isn’t looked back on as a huge mistake.
Try looking in the dumpster
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Dont grade the Pick Already
Asses, dont grade. Chilly/Spielman have hit homeruns the past 4 times, in a row. U dont like Cook bc U never heard of him before?
Skol Vikings!!
Just don't like the selection
especially after signing Lito
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Lito is insurance
Not the future. Lito signed a 1 year deal. He knows it. We should know it.
Skol Vikings!!
I understand
But we’ll just have to wait and see..
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Keep drinking the Kool-Aid
Yeah the Vikes have hit home runs with guys like Adrian Peterson (who was considered the most talented RB to come out of high school in a decade) and Percy Harvin (the #1 prospect coming out of high school), only because people were scared off by injury or weed issues.
THE POINT IS EVERYONE KNEW THEY HAD UNREAL TALENT. THEY WERE NOT ‘DIAMONDS IN THE ROUGH’.
They were huge talents with potential side problems; and yes, we gambled on them and it paid off. But that is the point, we took the most talented player, according to consensus; who really thinks Chris Cook has much talent at all?
This pick reminds me of Tyrell Johnson who we took over DeSean Jackson; at the time, EVERYONE knew that Jackson was WAY more talented, but had injury concerns; so we took a lesser-known, lesser-talent, “safer” pick and got BURNED. I guarantee this is a BUST.
Traded UP instead of down in Rd 1
Which we reportedly tried to do but were not ballsy enough to pull-off; the bigger talents at CB were Kyle Wilson (one (1!) pick in front of us; how hard to move up two spots?) or Patrick Robinson taken by the Saints (when we got stupid “cute” and traded down). READ:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/23/vikings-think-favre-could-play-two-more-years/
OR short of that, take a freak talent OL like Bruce Campbell.
The reaction to Cook so far
Is hilarious, in my opinion.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 5:35 PM CDT reply actions
I agree
may not look right now….I will wait and see before I make an opinion
by VikingCobber12 on Apr 23, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
JIMMY TO BROWNS
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:38 PM CDT reply actions
OR NOT
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
benny is a guaranteed
15 yard penalty everytime he gets a series on defense. Asher…yeah special teams only
by Cody_3_twins on Apr 23, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
asher has only been here 1 year
He’s showed some upsides to him
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Not necessarily. Winfield could move to safety.
by medicineball on Apr 23, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
WRONG IDIOTS
Asher was a 3rd round pick rookie last year; a 2nd round rookie this year is not going to replace him. And we just signed Benny to a multi-year contract with multi-million $$$ GUARANTEED.
Neither one is going anywhere (which is why this pick is even worse; we didn’t need another average talent corner). Some of you guys are amazingly stupid.
who is clausen?
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
Holy cow
Is the crowd in New York really booing Jim Brown, or was I hearing things?
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 5:40 PM CDT reply actions
Its New York.
What do you expect?
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Apr 23, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't select a qb who gets punched in the eye either
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:41 PM CDT reply actions
Lol
nice one
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
And you know. . .if Clausen gets past Buffalo again
It’s entirely possible that he just keeps falling. . .and keeps falling. . .
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 5:41 PM CDT reply actions
I feel bad for the kid.
He can’t even go back to college.
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Apr 23, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
There's always CFL
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Jimmy's draft position...
is like Major Kong…
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Apr 23, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Everybody is scared of his tiny Burger King hands.
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Apr 23, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Bucs trade up with the Raiders
Raiders get an extra 5th to move down 3 spots.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 5:43 PM CDT reply actions
We should've brought along Brett to help us with the draft
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:46 PM CDT reply actions
No he would only select players
based on who he thinks wouldn’t play for the Packers
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
he doesn't care about the Vikings...
and he doesn’t have a new book out. why would he comment?
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Apr 23, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47...............................62?
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
i wonder why we didn't acquire another pick in between
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
Who's going to announce our selection?
Which Viking?
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:47 PM CDT reply actions
I think I saw John Randle backstage there
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
NICE!!
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
john randle got drafted higher than clausen will probably go now
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
Gosh if I'm feeling impatient about the next pick
I can’t imagine what Bear Fans are going through
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:50 PM CDT reply actions
And the Bills pass on Clausen, too
Not to mention Colt McCoy.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 5:51 PM CDT reply actions
What would everyone think of taking McCoy with the next pick?
I’m sure there are plenty of criticisms of him but he’s got to become a great value at some point.
Im all for it
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
McCoy's my pick
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
If we don't select a qb
I would like Terrance Cody
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:53 PM CDT reply actions
lol
it’s like there’s a contest between teams to see who can go the longest without picking jimmy. Loser has to share revenue
Clausen must feel like the kid that always got picked last at recess!
by Iceland-Viking on Apr 23, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I totally understand
The qb slide, and make the genius pick on a sliding qb and still dfrated towards a need
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I explained it right above your comment;
:)
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
We should have gotten Mays over Cook,maybe Ward from Oregon
sometimes,the vikes front office make some decisions that make me and other people angry
The Raiders pass?
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 5:55 PM CDT reply actions
Never mind
They traded the pick to New England.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
You all need to settle down with this QB stuff
It is so annoying, your like the teenage girl that is obsessed with the high school quarterback
"You thought you could beat my team, but yours decided to go have ice cream. Bow to my awesomeness" Brad Childress
OMG I live in Arkansas
and is a Razorback fan and I feel so sorry that Darren had to go to them. And hated Felix going to the Cowboys even more!
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:56 PM CDT reply actions
BSPN
they thrive on BS
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Long Hiatus
I’ve been away from this site from sometime, specifically commenting. I’ve tried to check in when possible time permitting but I am back now. Just wanted to say hey to everyone again, especially those that where here almost a year and a half to two years ago. Hmmm maybe it wasnt that long but It definitely felt that way.
I think our pick was good Ol’ P Rob. I think the Saints picked him up and so I got to think he was who they though they could drop back and perhaps take. I also think this is why they traded back because they felt they would be able to snag him. CB must have been what they wanted and couldn’t get someone to drop for them. Or maybe because I am a Nole I think they were aimming for him. :P
Can’t say I really approval or disapprove but I do wish we had gotten Patrick Robinson. Amazing Talent. Having said that I think there is plenty of talent at QB coming into the draft next year that it is definitely going to be deeper than this year.
P.S. REALLY glad we didn’t get Tim Tebow. Booo UF!
Our next pick should be FB
defenitely.. 
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 5:59 PM CDT reply actions
The hell is going on?
Can someone from the NFL explain this, please?
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 5:59 PM CDT reply actions
IF we draft a QB (not that I want them to)
It should absolutely be Clausen over McCoy. Clausen has an NFL arm and knows how to read a defense. McCoy ran a spread offense and has a weak (by NFL standards arm); he has all the grooming problems of Vince Young (no NFL system experience) with NONE of the amazing athletic (most athletic QB ever) or leadership qualities (Vince Young single handedly beats USC; McCoy knocked out of Champ. Game on first series, what a loser)
Despite all the talent at Texas, McCoy never won sh*t either.
Clausen >>> McCoy
WHATTT???? NFL DRAFTTT
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 6:00 PM CDT reply actions
It's On ESPN2 Everyone
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 6:00 PM CDT reply actions
Do not adjust your set
Ray Lewis’ suit really IS that color.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 6:03 PM CDT reply actions
I may be wrong..
But he had a look in his eye like he was gonna tackle some of the fans booing in the crowd…
Rey Lewis speaking? Really?
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 6:03 PM CDT reply actions
slurring more like it.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Apr 23, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
That explains why Ray announced the Pick
LB Sergio Kindle
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 6:04 PM CDT reply actions
Kindle to Baltimore
If the microfracture rumors are true, this pick could flop for Baltimore.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 6:04 PM CDT reply actions
Whats up Gonzo
Whats up Gonzo, haven’t been here in a long time. Don’t know if you remember the first DN Fantasy League etc.
Of course, man
Saw you haven’t been here in a while. . .good to see you back!
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
strange off-season and now a weird opening to draft?
I feel sick so far. I worry that the Front Office is feeling arrogant, off of a couple of solid drafts the past couple years. I would have traded out of the top of Round 2, and accumulated a few more picks. And Cook is a reach!
See what drafting towards speed get's you? -- Yea no where
And than actually recruiting and scouting
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
17 more picks to go
Yay!!! I guess
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 6:07 PM CDT reply actions
Could Clausen or McCoy be there?
If they are and we don’t take one I may go into a coronary.
i bet management wants them to go before us
so they don’t have to keep hearing about it or feel pressure to draft one
What I'm going to say about the Cook pick
For now. . .is that I’m going to trust Spielman and Childress until Spielman and Childress give me reason not to trust them.
If they think that Cook is a fit, then I’m inclined to believe he is. And with the injury concerns of Winfield and Griffin AND the lack of quality play from Johnson and M. Williams, it’s probably not a horrible thing to have a guy that can potentially play both CB and S.
But, really. . .can we stop treating the kid like he’s Terrell Buckley, please?
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 6:08 PM CDT reply actions
Yea
Hope this guy actually does something. Well more than something!
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
We should have gotten Mays,he can tackle good
from what im hearing,Cook isn’t that aggressive
Beadles
You know. . .John, Paul, George, Ringo. . .
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey pal
where did ya get that tortoda
"You thought you could beat my team, but yours decided to go have ice cream. Bow to my awesomeness" Brad Childress
Poor Jimmy Clausen
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 6:12 PM CDT reply actions
brutal image
he’s wearing illegal eye-black, and an illegal black-eye
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
Good pick for the Giants
I wouldn’t have minded him at #62.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 6:14 PM CDT reply actions
Linval Joseph, that is
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
OMG don't draft Clausen Get McCoy instead
Clausen looks too much like Jay Cutler to me ewwww!
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 6:15 PM CDT reply actions
Carolina just put the MAX tag on Matt Moore
i.e. 1st and 3rd round tender (more than we put on Ray Edwards)
He is their QB of the present and future.
Geeze...
kinda surprised how far McCoy and Clausen have fallen. When I heard Arizona traded up I thought for sure they’d nab Clausen. Just crazy.
Clausen Gone!!
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 6:19 PM CDT reply actions
there you go, jimmy....good luck
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
Yes Lets get McCoy!!
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 6:20 PM CDT reply actions
Please stop with the QB nonsense
God; did you have a crush on your high school QB? McCoy sucks.
freaky, man
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
Doesn't seem at all
like what the Panthers needed to me.
They had every indication that Matt Moore was gonna be real good. Ya don’t draft a quarterback early when ya have a good young one.
Exactly my thoughts above.
What the heck are they thinking? Great use of that Max Tender on Matt Moore.
I'm really not sold on McCoy
He didn’t seem to take that big of a hit in the National Championship and he was out for the game.
Taylor Mays to the Niners
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 6:23 PM CDT reply actions
Yea whatever happened to the hype of Zac Robinson?
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 6:24 PM CDT reply actions
I don't see why the Vikings would take McCoy or Robinson.
Would either one of them be better than Jackson for 2011? I don’t think so.
mays, now that is a singletary pick
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
mays is going to start getting ronnie lot comparisons for better or worse
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
12 picks to go
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 6:26 PM CDT reply actions
randle.....undrafted
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Twinkie Town is down the road.
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Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Apr 23, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Non QB's to consider
OG-Jon Asamoah, Ill
DE-Carlos Dunlap, Fla & Everson Griffen, USC
OT-Charles Brown, USC & Bruce Campbell, Maryland
RB- Toby Gerhart, Stanford
No real opinion other than I like Asamoah.
Great list
I also would love them to take a O-Lineman. Could an athletic freak like Campbell play G next year?
He'd definitely fit right in as the heir to Pat.
Unfortunately that wouldn’t be a lot of playing time this year, and we’re loaded for depth too.
Unless of course we want to put Cody in at guard, which would be AWESOME if it’s feasible. _
Well, hello there, Petty Officer
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 6:30 PM CDT reply actions
What ultimately lost the NFC Championship game for us?
Defense or Offense? …. Draft towards the side of the ball that answers the question
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 6:31 PM CDT reply actions
and no referees can't be drafted
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay so offense
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty narrow theory there
Next year we could face different matchups. Draft for best players and overall need (which are OG, LB, OT, DT)
VIKINGS TRADE UP
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 6:33 PM CDT reply actions
Uh oh vikings
found something they liked!!
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 6:34 PM CDT reply actions
Toby Gerhart?
YES PLEASE!!
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 6:35 PM CDT reply actions
Toby Gerhart!
Elitism - It's lonely at the top. But it's comforting to look down upon everyone at the bottom.
by thankyouforblaze on Apr 23, 2010 6:35 PM CDT reply actions
awesome
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by thankyouforblaze on Apr 23, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
So much for the Reynaud plan
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 6:36 PM CDT reply actions
what did they give up?
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
he can play fullback
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
Toby is faster than Chris Johnson
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
Toby is a great selection
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
62 and 93
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by Stay classy, Joe. on Apr 23, 2010 6:37 PM CDT reply actions
Hope he doesn't fumbles
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 6:37 PM CDT reply actions
we already have the 100..
So we would of have 93 than another pick at 100…
may as well move up a bit..
and we can still move up again
What we gave up
We gave up the third round pick (#93).
Unless we move back up, we’re done for the evening.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 6:39 PM CDT reply actions
I like the pick..
But a lot to give just to move up 9 spots
by Loki The Viking God on Apr 23, 2010 6:39 PM CDT reply actions
Welp, bodyguard for Favre.
Hope they genuinely think he’s worth it.
We did need a running back.
But this soon?
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 6:41 PM CDT reply actions
Can't say I really like this pick whatsoever to be completely honest.
Did we really need to trade up to get a RB with AP?
Would've liked
to wait for Hardesty or Tate instead. Good pick but I’m not sure about the trade.
by CanadianViking on Apr 23, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh
Gud nite folks that’s our day!
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh yea i completely forgot
Nice move than1
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
My thoughts
It doesn’t matter who gets picked.. Everywhere I look
a group of people are for it..
a group of people are against it.
Like I’ve always stated, I have faith in the FO
They’ll do good work
How many RBs were picked
Prior to Gerhart?
I know Best was one of them…
KC took a running back
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by Stay classy, Joe. on Apr 23, 2010 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Someone explain this to me...
We could get Jahvid Best and trade down with the Lions but trade down and pick a CB then we trade back up and get a RB?
I think...
The Vikings had the focus of a CB on that round
And didn’t get what they want.
Weird how they took a RB in round 2 though.
Seems like they could of swapped their picks and gotten better results..
Who knows though, FO knows more than we do…
Great Pick! and good night!
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by ArizonaVikingsFan on Apr 23, 2010 6:45 PM CDT reply actions
I like the Gerhart pick
I do love this pick. Gerhart is a bruiser, and now we can simply bludgeon teams into submission if we want.
Seriously, after trying to tackle Adrian Peterson all game, does anybody want to see this guy coming at them?
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 6:45 PM CDT reply actions
Heck Yes!
I watched a lot of Stanford games this year and Toby Gerhart was the TRUE Heisman Trophy winner. With him and All Day (still my favorite player of all time) we have an AWESOME running attack.
Furthermore, Gerhart catches the ball well on screens, he can block, and he plays HARD.
SKOL Vikings and Stanford!
Toby Gerhart SHOULD Have WON THE HEISMAN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjLh_yO41jw
For those on the fence. Toby has a truck stick.
Skol Vikings!!
Sounds like a steal
Should shut up the Cook haters
Good Pick
I like this pick better than the Cook pick. Atleast this guy looks like he works when he’s on the field!
How’s he at catching the ball? does he make up somewhat for what we lost with Taylor?
Saw a little bit of film on him epsn2
It was nice, look like a nice swing pass and he looked hard to tackle.
broke like 4 tackles…
From CBS:
Receiving: Good hands as a receiver, and can adjust to poor throws and snatch the ball with his hands. Not overly elusive after the catch, but will muscle through defensive back tackles on swing passes and pound through traffic on middle screens. Good feet to get in and out of routes and tightrope the sidelines.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1117729?tag=pageRow;pageContainer
I went to a lot of Stanford games
The guy can definitely catch the ball well, has soft hands, can pass block, and obviously gets yards after contact.
Great pick.
unique player
I think anybody who is going to compare him to Alstott is being narrow. He’s got enough speed to be sufficient and he’ll make you pay if you don’t respect his toughness. But in all truth he won’t be able to run over people quite like his highlight reels. It’s the NFL, he’s not the biggest guy on the field anymore. I want to see him lower his shoulder into Suh or Ray Lewis or Mario Williams or Patrick Willis. He’ll be a good 3rd down back though if he can recognize the blitz.
9 down to 8 picks??
I don’t think we need that many picks.. Otherwise we’ll be looking to clean house..
We should try to make some more moves up…
Depth is nice, but a little bit of quality & depth mix isn’t bad at all..
Hope we trade up again
and grab an O-lineman.
by CanadianViking on Apr 23, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
i dunno
i like gerhart, but that’s a lot to give up for a minor move up and not address the o-line.
i think we should have gotten more out of this section of the draft with what we had.
does anyone know exactly why he needs the knee brace?
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
i'm wondering
if it’s to provide lateral stability or just to prevent hyper-extention (which can be less worrysome).
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
So why didnt we take a QB?
Is it just me or dont we need a qb after next season??? Unless they plan on trading or something after next season, im just not getting the logic on the draft this year
McCoy is still avail
But we move up and grab him, people will complain we don’t address O-line issues
We still need depth at DT and potential DE and even LB
Just can’t seem to win, huh? haha
I want 1 of the best
If we take a QB
one with a LOT of potential, not questionable..
If they thought the QBs available were a good bet
they’d have taken them.
Unless they still have faith in Tarvaris, but hey.
Were going to end up
drafting a Career backup QB in the later rounds..
by hickenizgriz on Apr 23, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
lets hope so
i just want a good QB after farve, not a backup starting just because the front office cant figure out they need one
Ravens
Take T. Cody
Dang, thought we could of added him for depth
Ravens take Terrence Cody
Him and Haloti Ngata on the same line. . .that’s about half a ton of fun right there.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 6:57 PM CDT reply actions
Then it's 3/4 of a ton of fun
Doesn’t roll off the tongue quite as readily, but hey. . .
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
So we did trade away pick 62 right??
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 6:58 PM CDT reply actions
Yup
To grab Gerhart…
Still have #100 though
62 & 93 were traded off to move up 7 spots
I guess we are.
Off to the mall for me!
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Having 93 & 100
May as well do some trading…
Move up and grab a guy
Otherwise you have the issue of wondering who to grab 7 picks apart.
When does the draft resume?
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 7:04 PM CDT reply actions
Either 9 or 10 AM tomorrow
Rounds 4, 5, 6, and 7
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
9 am tomorrow
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by Stay classy, Joe. on Apr 23, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Colt to Browns i feel it
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 7:05 PM CDT reply actions
Yes I predicted wrong
now move up Vikings already!!
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Depends on who you ask
Personally, I am.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions
he needs a number in the 40's
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
Golden Tate to the Seahawks
Man. . .he was possibly projected as a late 1st.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 7:15 PM CDT reply actions
we don't draft till 100, that's a loooong time to think about it
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
asamoah, campbell, brown, ducasse just got picked up
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
Patriots take Brandon Spikes
And that makes him the sixth Gator to be taken in the first two rounds.
Damn.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 7:26 PM CDT reply actions
And now we're in to Round 3
Only five minutes between picks from here on out.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 7:29 PM CDT reply actions
that's how excited everyone is about our upcoming 3rd round pick!!!
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
Silence
after getting gerhardt. Kinda wished we could’ve kept our third and gotten Hardesty instead.
by CanadianViking on Apr 23, 2010 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
ooooooohhh yeeahhhh, forgot....we gave that away.
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
Back for brief...
Wow only 5 comments since I left
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 7:50 PM CDT reply actions
everyone is holding their breath till triple digit picks
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
I would love to see us pick up TE Moeaki
in the late rounds. He is top two round talent but couldn’t stay healthy at Iowa. Would be worth the risk
Yeah, the thread kind of died
Guess that’s what happens when it doesn’t look like you’re picking again until tomorrow, I guess.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 7:56 PM CDT reply actions
gone, gone, gone
asamoah, gone……dickson, gone……burnett, gone…..i liked all of these guys, damn
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who dat?
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john jerry, gone!! brutal
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The Bears should take Colt McCoy
They could use a QB that isn’t a complete waste of oxygen.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 8:04 PM CDT reply actions
or throw 2 picks per game
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
This isn't an exciting draft for me
Usually I’d be proud, excited, ready to see the rooks in action, it just hasn’t presented that spark this draft!
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 8:21 PM CDT reply actions
Mayock: "He's a one-gap penetrator."
But, really. . .aren’t we all?
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 8:30 PM CDT reply actions
Bruce Campbell
at the top of the 4th, and I’m happy about the draft.
I’d be very happy if we could trade pick 100 and 5th rounder to move up and grab him now.
Colt's Gone!
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 8:33 PM CDT reply actions
I think we don't go qb this draft
But if we do I wouldn’t mind Zach Robinson or Tony
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
And there goes Eric Decker
To Denver at #87.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 23, 2010 8:39 PM CDT reply actions
draft analysis so far
Chris Cook adds versatility, ability, and depth to the defensive backs. His presence might allow Winfield to switch to strong safety, for example. When he plays he can help shut down the taller receivers like Calvin Johnson and the tight ends
Toby Gerhart probably will replace Tahi on the roster. Thus, there are probably still two roster spots for Albert Young, Darius Reynaud, Ian Johnson, and James Johnson to compete for.
Yet, Gerhart, will probably not play a lot of “lead blocking fullback.” It sounds like we might be using less of that formation.
Gerhart will be an excellent third down back, fullback, tailback, or whatever. He is added insurance in case Peterson can’t solve the fumbling issue.
It’s too bad that we couldn’t draft Decker or a linebacker or a guard or center or safety by now, but it just shows that we have a lot of depth on this team. A lot of the younger players already on the team will have a chance to prove it in training camp.
I like both players,
but I don’t really like the trade to get Gerhart. I would’ve preferred keeping our third and instead traded a fifth to get Hardesty or Tate. I don’t like that for our first three picks we only got two players. We essentially traded out of the first and third to move up a little in the second. Seems like wasted effort.
by CanadianViking on Apr 23, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
We still have
the second pick of the 4th round from Detroit. It is only 7 spots back from where our third round pick was.
So we didnt trade three picks for 2 players. The difference between 93 and 100 isnt that great.
yes
We used the 1, 2, and 3 picks and got two players, and we moved up in the 4th round.
There isn’t a huge difference between pick #93 and #100, and we have five picks left in the draft.
I believe we got a great player in Gerhart, and an extremely valuable player in Cook. I wish we would have drafted guard by now, but then we wouldn’t have Gerhart.
by medicineball on Apr 23, 2010 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I know, but we swapped our fourth with Detroit.
I just think we’ve moved around a lot and didn’t really gain value. If we didn’t make any trades we still could have got Cook and a good RB as well as picking in the third and fourth. I think we made a couple of moves and essentially lost our late fourth for no reason.
by CanadianViking on Apr 23, 2010 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
However
I still feel that Gerhart is significantly better than Hardesty or Tate. So I don’t think the moving around was completely for naught.
Hardesty
was a favorite of mine in the draft so I’m a little disappointed that we paid more for Gerhart than he would’ve cost. I think Hardesty has more talent than Toby but was knocked down because of the injury history.
by CanadianViking on Apr 23, 2010 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
No problem.
Losing that fourth isn’t a huge deal but I just kinda feel underwhelmed by our moves.
by CanadianViking on Apr 23, 2010 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
draft format
I am really starting to hate this new draft format. Put it back on Saturday and Sunday. Anybody have an opinion on the subject?
I agree why torchure is with all this waiting?
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 23, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Gotta agree.
The extra time makes for more anticipation but less flow and actual excitement while the draft is actually on. Basically it’s more hype but less substance in my opinion.
by CanadianViking on Apr 23, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Now can we get D.LeFevor or Z.Robinson Tomorrow
or Pitta from BYU or Hernandez for Flordia
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