2010 NFL Draft: Rounds Four Through Seven Open Discussion
by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 8:19 AM CDT
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PrintThe Vikings are set to pick second in the fourth round thanks to their Thursday night trade with Detroit. There is still a ton of talent available to them at this point in time, what with this being such an incredibly deep draft.
We're about 45 minutes away from the last of this year's draft festivities kicking off from Radio City Music Hall, and hopefully there will be a bunch of folks here to talk about it. Enjoy, folks!
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Vikings ought to:
1. Focus the #100 pick on INTERIOR LINE – get the best available OG o r C they can get! Vital need, in my opinion. If they are sold on Campbell, they should be ecstatic to find him still there. If not and there is someone they feel is a star in the making, grab him and be grateful.
2. Look to trade with Washington. I still feel the smart move today, is to see if we can swap picks and get the Skins to “throw in” Jason Campbell in a deal. They are eager to send him packing, and I think he would be a much smarter bet than reaching for a project at QB in the late rounds. What if he could be rejuvenated by the Viking coaches, and become a strong starter for us next year? And with all his experience, he would be much more ready to keep the team competitive. And he will come cheap. I like Lefevour too, but he is at least 2-3 years away.
3. Stay with BPA for the rest of the draft.
4. Try to be active in trades – looking for some veterans to plug a few holes. IF there is a chance to get another couple of veterans, I feel the brass should be aggressive in doing so now, gearing up for another ideal chance at a run for the ring!
Agree on the O-line.
Jason Fox, Bruce Campbell, Mitch Petrus, and Matthew Tennant are all available. If we don’t go O-line I hope we get Faneca cause we need some depth/improvement on the line.
Don’t be surprised if we trade back with New England. They’ve got a ton of picks and apparently want Everson Griffin.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions
And we are underway!
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 9:00 AM CDT reply actions
Gonz I thought there
wasn’t going to be a thread for a minute
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 9:01 AM CDT reply actions
we don't have to wait long for a selection
We own the 2nd pick YAY!
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 9:03 AM CDT reply actions
What's the worst that could happen?
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Not much,
just trading back again. I want a pick now.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Who is John Skeleton?
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Rams pick is already in
Damn. . .that was fast. Minnesota is already on the clock.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 9:06 AM CDT reply actions
ESPN Draft Coverage sucks
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Mayock sounds like hell
His voice is completely shot.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 9:07 AM CDT reply actions
Everson, Griffin, DE, USC
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 9:10 AM CDT reply actions
DE
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 9:10 AM CDT reply actions
Everson is a steal here - 4th round like JA
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
I'm okay about this selection
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 9:12 AM CDT reply actions
I feel you
We now have 6 DEs.
I don’t think we will carry 6 that is for sure.
That is all I will say.
Just joking but it
fits what you’ve been saying all along.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Ray Edwards looks like he is on thin ice with the Vikings now
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
One DE is going inside to DT
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Like who??
They literally took the bpa this time
by vikesfan4lyf on Apr 24, 2010 9:15 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Cam Thomas
I don’t really know about the guy, but he’s rated pretty high. What if P. Williams goes down?
Jimmy kennedy who comes in and plays pretty well when pat goes to the sideline to catch a breather
by vikesfan4lyf on Apr 24, 2010 9:21 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
and if the williams wall is suspended?
Guess i’m a worryer, but it seems like we’re already stacked at D-end…
Jimmy Kennedy, Fred Evans, and the gang can and will step in and do well.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Why?
Everson Griffen is a project I guess.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 9:13 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
This
This is why we should draft need this year. Griffen won’t see the field for years. We already have Robison.
Ok maybe they have a plan to utilize him. I hope so.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 9:19 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Petrus, fox, black
We need some O-Linemen
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
He was a projected 1st round pick.
Can’t blame them for taking him
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Draft Grade Over First Glance
C+, but because I beleive in our staff B-…
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 9:14 AM CDT reply actions
they
took the best player available
the guy almost looks big enough to play dt
and based on the video he looked bigger than most of the tackles he was going against
273 lb big enough for DT?
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions
When do we help the O-Line?
Pass on Fox or Black?
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Faneca is 33 years old
And he is a starter. Unless they are going to bench Herrera then I don’t know.
Cook, our man Cook, our man Cook!!!!
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
I like this pick because i like Defensive Ends
we should get a qb now,im starting to like that Skelton kid
To PurpleJesus and all
Is Faneca over the hill? Does he fit our system? What are his salary implication if he was released?
Free to sign him at any price
He was released. He is only 32 and was hurt a bit last year. Was scheduled to make a good amount of money with Jets and they decided they needed the $ elsewhere.
Still a really good run-blocker,
but he’s a little suspect in pass protection. Think the Jet’s were a man blocking team but a pro-bowler for a short term solution is cool with me.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions
JAREDDDDDDDDDD!!!
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 9:16 AM CDT reply actions
When is our next pick?
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 9:17 AM CDT reply actions
in the 150s
The Hochevar Principle: The future comes to all teams. Some teams wait for it. Those teams finish in last place a lot. -Joe Posnanski
Don’t think they Vikings will be using all 5 of the picks they have left. Could be in for a trade up in the next round or two.
Remaining picks:
Round 5, Pick 30 (161) — —
Round 5, Pick 36 (167) (Compensatory selection) — —
Round 6, Pick 30 (199) — —
Round 7, Pick 7 (214) (From Browns through Lions) — —
Round 7, Pick 30 (237) — —
I'm under the impression
That Griffen might be potential insurance against a Ray Edwards departure.
And hey, the guy had a first-round grade in some places. . .getting him at #100 is ridiculous value.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 9:18 AM CDT reply actions
Can't have to many good DE's
But this does put a little pressure on Ray to stay and sign a long term deal
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions
They interviewed a reporter who knows him at USC on KFAN yesterday
Said he is one fantastic athlete. Just a matter of keeping his motor running. Likes to play up to the competition. Not up for worse competition.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions
NFL Network
I was watching it when they announced the Griffen selection. Right after that Jason La Canfora came on and started talking about how Pete Carroll passed on Griffen multiple times, and the reason why he was slipping was because of off-the-field concerns. Mayock then hoarsely pointed out that Griffen was USC’s best pass rusher, but he didn’t play every down and didn’t see the field much, alluding to the notion that Griffen clashed with the coaches. The words “head case” are mine but it fits in with what they are saying.
If Griffen wants to play for a contender, here is his chance. He needs to get his head in the game. He probably just needs to be paired with somebody like Kevin Williams. Just do whatever KWill does on and off the field and Griffen could be a terrific, terrific NFL player.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Sounds right. But at least we have a great athlete to start with.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
If Ray leaves it isn't our lost
It’s his because he’ll be missing out on a ring this year!! AGAIN!!
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Edwards, Robison, and Montgomery
are all under contract for one year. Good insurance for the position in general.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions
We should
trade up and get Myron Rolle. Rhodes Scholar, dude is a fricking beast! I totally forgot he was in the draft this year.
Want him bad!
Wanted him with our pick in this round but if he can last until early 5th I could see us making a trade to get him.
We really should pick him up
I’ve watched first hand what he can do, and how smart the man is. Amazingly smart.
Well I highly doubt he lasts to our 5th round pick, I’m glad I just remember about him though, wonder if other people around the NFL did the same but I think we would have to trade up to get him.
I've seen him
projected somewhere in the 5th but who knows.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Well maybe we could wait him out then
or at the very least move up a couple spots in the 5th maybe. Give away that detriot 7th.
I would do it
No way we have room on our team for all these draft picks. Use some to get quality players!
Sounds good to me.
I don’t understand why smart guys get knocked when it comes to football.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Fatdale White to the Seahawks
In exchange for the 104th overall pick.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 9:25 AM CDT reply actions
Here is a link to NFL.com’s pick page. Has updated analysis and live tracking in case you miss a live picl
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2010/tracker#dt-by-round-input:4/dt-tabs:dt-by-team/dt-by-team-input:min
You can also get a live feed of the draft from the main page.
What does that tell you?
Tennessee didn’t want them anyway and improved their position in both rounds
Lendale White traded to the Hawks
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Apr 24, 2010 9:33 AM CDT reply actions
And hey, the Raiders take Bruce Campbell
Of course, it’s three rounds after I had them projected to take Bruce Campbell, but hey. . .technically I got that right in my mock, right?
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 9:35 AM CDT reply actions
Who wouldn't want Bruce Campbell?
I mean, hell. . .have you SEEN Army of Darkness?
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I had Griffen to the Vikes in the first as a good pick
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No idea.
Just made my board based on scouting reports and grades. Spielman is amazing. I know he wasn’t one of the 80 that the Vikes flagged with character concerns
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe the history of their NFL players?
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Doing work?
Deion Sanders, Warrick Dunn, Derrick Brooks,Lavernus Coles, Lawernce Timmons, Ernie Simms, Antonio Cromartie, Bunkley,
How is Ricky Sapp still on the board?
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Injury concerns, from what I heard in the past.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
zzzzzzz
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zzzzzzz
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He might of broke 4.2
without those things!
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Al had to drive by that stupid billboard everyday. I think he read it.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Any chances we get a WR/TE today?
Briscoe,Hernandez,Pitta,Meier?
How about someone to replace Artis Hicks?
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes, all O-Line positions
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Does anyone else get mild chest pains
Just seeing the commercials for this new KFC chicken sandwich without the bun?
Seriously, how in the blue hell would you eat one of those?
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 9:43 AM CDT reply actions
They haven't released that monstrosity
in Canada yet. It’s one small step from a meat slurry.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Its one of those things that made my stomach hurt just looking at it. Though admittedly, I would try it at least once, if only to say I survived.
Oh, don't get me wrong
I’m sure it would be delicious.
And then your heart would stop.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Yea EJ had an injury you see
and Greenway is in the last year of his contract
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Morrison just went to the Jags
As part of the deal the Raiders made to move back up.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Man i really wanted tony pike :(
by vikesfan4lyf on Apr 24, 2010 9:44 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
We passed on the 2nd & 3rd best rated QBs. I doubt we take a QB until really late.
At least until the do something with the O-Lineman. Is Jason Fox and Ciron Black still available
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm just glad we didn't get him so Yes.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions
No
Denver is creating a new work ethic in their locker room. They have cleaned up the locker room.
Quinn is a back-up to compete with Orton until Tebow is ready.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
What ever happened to the trade talks about the top
Raider’s Cb who’s name just can’t come to my head right now
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 9:47 AM CDT reply actions
Just call him NA
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions
N/A?
Yea cool nickname
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Its just his initials
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Yea I Know
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
But I love the / Puts a whole new spin on it.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Joe McKnight to the Jets
I was hoping for him before we took Gerhart. . .nice pick for them at this spot.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 9:52 AM CDT reply actions
thank goodness
I did not want McKnight. He is an over-entitled Reggie Bush type, except with an injury history.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
I heard a Joke that Tim Tebow
was the next Rex Grossman.. HAHA you just have to laugh at that..
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 9:52 AM CDT reply actions
Grossman doesn't have the heart Tebow does
But I still don’t see Tebow being great in this league. Heart or not.
I hate the Jets
and I’m not even a Giants fan!
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 9:53 AM CDT reply actions
New England gets a Great TE in the 4th.- Figures
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I'm confused, what's LT role?
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 9:54 AM CDT reply actions
Yeah, Jets have
four quality backs now.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
That is very confusing. A little overkill?
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
I bet they dump or trade Washington.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Now I like that experienced scat back. Has he truly healed up?
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Skelton
Big guy, and might have the strongest arm in the draft.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Umm,
Is it really a HUGE rush to draft a qb this draft?
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Robinson, Kfka, or Snead. Whoever is available in the 7th.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
I want Myron
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Apr 24, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
the only Qb I know for next year is J.Locker
by Curtis72094 on Apr 24, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
RYAN MALLET PEOPLE!!
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
What are you giving up for the #1 pick in the draft?
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
That'd be great just to see a Razorback go 1st overall
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Only 47 picks to go till our next pick. WTH
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5mins X 47 picks equals
about another our and a half before we select
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Offensive line is a major need
We averaged 4.1 YPA per rush last year.
We draft a damn good power RB (perhaps FB) but do not have the line to block anymore.
Very strange draft to say the least.
The players are not that bad but they really should have looked at the lines first IMO.
I was wanting to get MORE picks in the first 3 rounds not LESS.
Late round guys have a much harder time making the team.
Yeah, it seems we're going quality
over quantity but doing it at the wrong end of the draft. Hope we get Faneca.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah its hard to put together.
Here is how I figure it.
They hated all the QBs that were available.
They see Gerhart as a key piece to the puzzell.
They like our line and figure that injuries were the problem not the talent.
Gerhart is a runner behind a zone blocking scheme.
We are not changing the scheme or line talent.
Only way it makes sense.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Both our guards were hurt all year
and we had two new starters so perhaps we will improve without change. Hoping anyway.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
There are no excuses
It is not the starters it is the backups.
We passed on Rodger Saffold who would have been an excellent backup and eventual successor to McKinnie.
One injury is all it takes and we are in deep doo doo.
DE, I thought was looking pretty good even with the unsettled situation with Ray.
Amazing.
I think that the front office is getting too full of themselves.
Passing on Clausen was pure stupidity. You do not pass on the #2 QB in the whole draft and #1 in some circles to draft the 6th best CB.
Well you know I agree but you don't draft a QB
that you don’t evaluate as a Franchise QB early.
They really see Gerhart as the opportunity to move this team forward.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Well something is wrong with the evaluation then
If we can move UP to draft sorrified TJack in the 2nd then we can damn well draft Clausen in the 2nd!
Yust because you and I evaluated Clausen as a franchise guy
I have to defer to Every Team in the NFL. And all the bad teams passed on him twice.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
relieved
I am relieved we didn’t draft Jimmy Clausen. From what I have heard, his father has been pushing his son to play football. Clausen looks like he is headed for a mental breakdown or something. His overly cocky exterior must hide an inferiority complex. I wish Clausen well, but I think we can do a lot better at the QB position.
At CB, Cook will do well. I don’t care where he was rated, he was the guy for us after Jackson and McCourty went off the board.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
MM you are nothing bu positive
I like that and hope you do not change.
But you are wrong on Clausen & Cook.
Cook is decent no doubt.
But there were better players available. And we signed Lito so he was an absolute need.
We needed to get the QB or at least Rodger Saffold.
And you know this.
Don’t be a sheep!
According to Spielman
4 players were equally rated. I assume they were Cook, Robinson, Price, Saffold.
everyone thought the need was for a CB.
I don’t get the problem with the Cook pick?
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't dislike Cook,
I just wish we grabbed OL earlier as I think there were comparable CB talents to Cook later. Seemed like the corner class was deep this year.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Cook is a post season riser
He was not on the radar prior to the post season then all of a sudden he is all that?
Frazier drafted him because he reminded him of himself as Chilly said.
Frazier is a former DB who is now the DC for us and his specialty unit is failing miserably under his watch.
19th in the league against the pass is not any good.
It must be why he cannot get a HC job.
If you cannot even get the unit you specialize in to play well, what does that say?
Cook would have been OK at #62 but with the Lito signing I did not believe that CB was a first round necessity especially with Hicks gone and a backup for McKinnie needed.
Top all of that off with the fact that the #2 QB was there and it is just plain dumb!
Again it is purely evaluation. The Vikes loved Cook.
two weeks ago you thought we should take Brandon Ghee as our 1st because a CB was so important. Spielman agreed with you. His BPA was a CB and he took him with his first pick.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Two weeks ago I refused to believe that Clausen would be there
Cook is nice no doubt but we could have Clausen, John Jerry, & Ghee in the first 3 rounds.
We got Cook, Gerhart, & Griffen (another DE for what).
I agree with you that would have been nice
But if the evaluators are correct and Clausen is a bust I can’t argue with Cook, Gerhart, and Griffen.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
the problem and how the Vikings dealt with it
The problem is we absolutely needed to draft a cornerback by the end of the second round. No matter how you look at things, the need for a CB was too great. The cornerbacks available at #62 included Amari Spievey and others, but Chris Cook was a lock to go in the middle part of the second round due to his physical attributes.
If we had traded up into pick #25, for example, we could have taken McCourty, but that would have been very costly.
Doing it this way hurt a lot because we passed on Saffold, Decker, and other players, but we not only got a solid cornerback, we also take a potentially big offensive contributor in Toby Gerhart.
I was hoping we would draft McCourty, but he wasn’t there, and moving up would have been costly.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
We called NE about McCourty but they wouldn't budge.
If two weeks ago I had told you the Vikes obtained
Everson Griffen #30
Toby Gerhart #62
Chris Cook #64
Everybody would have said I was crazy
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I would have definitely said you were crazy because I would have never made those picks
Don’t be a sheep.
They have yet to address the offensive line.
Thats because they have picked up
a Very high 2nd round pick
a Middle 2nd round pick
and a late 3rd round pick.
They couldn’t pass up a late first-high 2nd talent in Griffen as a late 3rd rounder. BPA ain’t all bad.
You know they had all night to think about that pick.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Absolutely Disagree. He just wasn't BPA on your board.
At position #30 I had this list remaining
Clausen, Best, Kindle
I had Cook directly above Ghee, Franks, Robinson,and Cox
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
But that is not true on the Vikings board. Just yours and mine.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
And it took all the way until Pick #116
But someone has finally been drafted from THE. . .(dramatic pause). . .Ohio State University.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 10:04 AM CDT reply actions
Gonzo
Why didn’t Troy Smith get a whiff for a 5th round pick?
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
I see Pete Carroll
is rebuilding his college team.
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Next year with be wayyyyyy deeper at QB position. Mallet, lockner, Luck from standford, Jacorey harris could come out, jarrod johnson from texas A and M
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 10:09 AM CDT reply actions
Same is said every year.
someone will be out of the spread.
Someone will have an injury
Someone will have a character flaw.
The good ones will go high. We won’t pay to move up high enough.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
That was just a youtube comment I copied and pasted
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Best still on the board for the Vikings:
1. Cam Thomas DT
2. Akwasi Owusu-Ansah CB/FS
3. A.J. Edds SOLB
4. Mitch Petrus OG
5. John Skelton QB
Edds just went to the Dolphins
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Love all of them
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Who will be left 40 picks fromnow?
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I really don't like our Secondary as it stands though.
What happens if we moved Griffen back to S when he comes back?
What don't you like?
Pro bowler Sheppard? Pro Bowler Griffen? Winfield? Asher allen?
And now Chris Cook? Whats wrong with that.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
You don't like Sanford? He came on pretty good.
But it is obvious from this draft that the Vikes think the safety position is not a problem.
Unless they think Cook will be a FS.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
At least we have 2 picks round 5..
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 10:18 AM CDT reply actions
very late picks
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Be thankful
Bear fans have been torturched by the wait!!
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I kinda forgot they
were even in the draft this year!
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Lol
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
I am hoping we trade up in 5th
Give up a 7th or more to do it
by PurpleJesus on Apr 24, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree 100%
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Philly is showing everyone how to restock a football team.
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I wouldn't be suprised if they drafted a QB
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Wow I'm suprised!
I got it right!
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
And now they take my sleeper QB. Damn them
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Only 16 TD's last year though
More of a runner
by PurpleJesus on Apr 24, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
But the grades on the Philly picks aren't good
Check out NFL.com. Very low grades.
by PurpleJesus on Apr 24, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
I know.... see how many picks they got in the 4th round???
they had a pick in each round too. I hope Speilman takes notes on that.
Spielman
Has outdrafted them and everyone else the last few years. maybe people should take note of his skills instead of the other way around.
by PurpleJesus on Apr 24, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Well they gutted their team to do it.
Should we give up Farve for a second round pick?
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm pretty upset about how many picks we had in the first rounds.
We didn’t get that corner we really wanted. Did we? Gerharts a great pick but we could have traded up or something on that one.
We did get the player we wanted
Th two corners the Vikes valued equally by the time #30 rolled around were Robinson and Cook. We added a high 4th round pick and obtained Cook. What’s the problem?
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Why is it only pick 123? This is ridiculous!!
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 10:31 AM CDT reply actions
I so badly want a Viking QB
who belongs to us, wins us superbowls, sticks with us for 8 years +, give it his all to this organzation, puts the team on his back and not A.P.’s, and is the best player on the field we he steps behind the center. Where is this guy at for us? Daunte was close, but no superbowls.. Favre want be here for ever.
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 10:36 AM CDT reply actions
Oh yea and the classic 4th quarter comebacks...
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Plays under center..
Big size, strong arm, a perfect fit!
by PurpleJesus on Apr 24, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
You really think this guy could be OUR
Future and has the qualties to win us games, bring us back in the 4th, carry this team on his back?
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
and/or win us superbowls
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I do
Watch the video. Has all you can ask for. Great touch on his passes even though he has a real strong arm. I would like to know his Wonderlich though.
by PurpleJesus on Apr 24, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Just asking your opinion.
I hope if we do grab him he makes you look like a genius
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Does he throw accurate?
I understand he has the arm.
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Looking him up
He does seem to be above average in accuracy and skills. This late in the game, if he is still around, may not be a bad idea to grab him
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by VikesFaninNM on Apr 24, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
How late?
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
I pick Rolle first
Pike and LeFevour are still out there. I think we can wait.
by PurpleJesus on Apr 24, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Weirder things have happened
Tom Brady was the 199th overall pick in the 6th round
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by VikesFaninNM on Apr 24, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Brady also held the Big Ten Passing records
and the Michigan records. Back when Michigan was good.
he was simply overlooked
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
We simply didn't evaluate Clausen or McCoy as those kinds of QBs.
Have to trust the scouting and evaluation. Might not agree but they have been pretty good.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Yea I agree
Just stating that I would like to find one qb of that type
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Exactyly what I was getting at.....
I’m not too please with not getting the quarterback…. whether it be Clauson or McCoy. Preferebly McCoy. I don’t think Farve would have been pissed about that.
And the Cowboys just stole a guy that I loved
Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, small-school CB.
Damn them.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 10:40 AM CDT reply actions
Why the Vikings took Ryan Cook.. Here you go
Having gambled that Patrick Robinson would not be taken when they traded down Thursday — the Florida State cornerback ended up going to 32nd to New Orleans — the Vikings decided they were going to grab Cook while he was available.
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 10:41 AM CDT reply actions
Not true
They liked Robinson and Cook the same. They got an extra pick and took Cook.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Well that's according to
http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/91985279.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiU9PmP:QiUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Right, but its not that bad. the next paragraph clearly shows that the really liked Cook. It wasn’t like, “Well shit, the guy we really wanted was gone so we are screwed, lets reach for a guy”
I wasn't trying to present it as that view
But it can be either or..
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
*Chris Cook. I think they took Ryan Cook for a different reason ;) Maybe this kind of mix up is why people don’t like him. The name Cook being out hostilities.
Oh yea my bad, yea Chris Cook,
lol
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
they missed on McCourty and Wilson.
Forget the Robinson guy…. I guess thats why I’m questioning everything now. Almost ain’t good enough for this team.
Ok its time for the Viking pick we gave up. Who would you take right now.
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Jason fox, petrus, ciron Black
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Detroit took Fox. Our Jason fox. Damn them
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I thought about Dustin Fox for a second there
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
and 2 of them are the Eagles
and they just drafted a Safety so really 26 to worry about
by PurpleJesus on Apr 24, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know why
Worried about McDaniels picking him
by PurpleJesus on Apr 24, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
ESPN is talking about Rolle
I don’t like that.
by PurpleJesus on Apr 24, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
You mean 5th round picks?
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Can only trade one of those 5th rounders
The one at 161. The other one (167) is a compensatory pick, and those can’t be traded.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
7th round picks get about $50,000 guaranteed money. UFAs get about $6,500
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Every team brings in about 20 UFAs.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Very true
Unless teams are worried how long he will play football
by PurpleJesus on Apr 24, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
But i say he plays for as long as he cans then goes and becomes a Brain Surgeon like he wants too.
Or like Robert Smith
Once he starts feeling his body getting a little sore, pulls the plug.
And no, not knocking Smith, I just may have done the same thing instead of dealing with bad knees the rest of my life.
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by VikesFaninNM on Apr 24, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
He can be a steal, or a gem
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Doing homework over here
Which is why I haven’t said a whole lot.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 11:08 AM CDT reply actions
There's nothing to talk about so far
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Is petrus the only Great O-Lineman left?
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Petrus is a zone guy.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Perrish cox and Dominique Franks in the 5th round.
All these High rated CBs. I kept believing we could get one late but maybe there are issues we don’t know about with these guys. Donavan Warren is still on the board.
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Probably thinking
BPA and the deeper it goes into the draft the less one stands out form another and it really becomes dice rolling.
havent been here in a while
who are we looking at for those 2 picks
Need a O-Lineman but some want Safety Myron Rolle
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Oakland should take Le Fevour
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unbelievable. another RB
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
maybe they just want a guy called the Terminator
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
This guys a FB
known as the Terminator. Wanted him but this seems really high.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Jets RB's
somebody’s obvisiouly getting converted to WR
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 11:21 AM CDT reply actions
Didnt they just trade for White too?
In Seattle I mean?
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by VikesFaninNM on Apr 24, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
They weren't able to get Spillers
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Interesting
As White has been screaming to be a starter all last season, that just put him back into the 3rd down, short yardage catagory which he is very good at.
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by VikesFaninNM on Apr 24, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Is Jacoby Ford still on the board?
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gone to the raiders ,sorry
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe we get Ciron Black and Petrus in the 5th?
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Harewood's huge
and we had him for a visit. Good call.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
And they have selected as many people as we have
After this pick
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
If we hadn't traded we would have had one more pick and no Gerhart.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
i didn't mind trading for gerhart
i just wish they couldhave given up a little less — or at least gotten another pick in the fifth or something.
I really want Skelton, it’s starting to look like he will be there at the end of this round, but I fear that we will need to commit picks to other areas.
There is no room on the roster
We can’t have 4 QBs and Skelton won’t last on the practise squad.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
That is true
I would assume Skelton would have more long term value than Rosenfels. Raiders want him so why not trade him if we get Skelton?
by PurpleJesus on Apr 24, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
The Vikes didn't give Rosenfels a 9 Million dollar 3 year contract because they don't believ in him.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
@ Lifelongvike
If Rolle and Petrus are still on the board with our first of 2 picks who do you take? Our next 5th is 6 picks later mind you.
I'm taking both Petrus and Ciron Black
Both offensive guards but Ciron could play some tackle. If we have to take a safety I love Rolle. Especially now that he has a chip on his shoulder.
This is killing me because I like rolle but also Skelton. I don’t think we can afford Skelton on the roster.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
I think one of those will atleast be gone come our pick but hope Rolle is still there. I’m worried he will go to the Ravens or Dallas though.
As far as Skelton, I would love to atleast be able to put some faith that we have a future on the horizon but I mean realistically we can’t have 4 qbs so we would have to cut asomeone and if we did end up cutting our draft qb, its a compete waste of a pick.
Hard decisions.
Jets are taking a page out of the Timberwolves book
Draft so many pg’s and see which ones work out
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 11:28 AM CDT reply actions
Des are going fast. I'm glad we took Griffen
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#161. Currently at 145
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What are we going to do to help our LB corps?
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Was really hoping for A.J. Edds to drop to the Vikings. Good coverage LB that would have taken over for Leber in a year or two. Now I am not sure who I still like out there at LB. Need a guy who can cover.
Cam Thomas
is a good pick for SD. Thought he’d be gone by now.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 11:39 AM CDT reply actions
This draft is much deeper than I realized.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Little bit of history made earlier
The Buffalo Bills selected Virginia Tech OT Ed Wang at pick #140. He’s the first Chinese-American to be drafted into the National Football League.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 11:43 AM CDT reply actions
Damnit
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know much about this guy
But he only graded out as a 2.9 on NFL.com. Not very high at all.
by PurpleJesus on Apr 24, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Jamar Chaney- ILB Mississippi St.. Darrell Sharpton ILB Miami.
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Joe Kapp
Agonizing draft for this Vikings fan!
I am NOT thrilled so far. We paid too much to get Gerhart. We need OL stud. We need Interior DL help. We need a QB of the future. I will do cartwheels if a trade or two is announced soon (i.e. go get Jason Campbell, trade Ray Edwards, etc.) There are some needs we should address, and I am really wondering WHEN the brass will finally make the moves this team really needs. I like Gerhart but we could have won the same games with a different RB and not traded the picks like we did, at a crucial phase of this draft.
I’m trying to cling to hope, but worried…
QBOTF still can be met
Skelton is still there. But I’m not sure he will make it through the Patriots pick, or the Steelers two picks before us. Otherwise … I’m starting to think we have to take him if he’s still there at 161, OL and linebacker needs be damned
They aren't going to pass on the 2nd best QB to get the 7th best QB.
No room on the roster for him.
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Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I am not worried about Skelton
I think Pike and LeFevour will go first. We have time…
by PurpleJesus on Apr 24, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
ok, he's tall i guess
me personally, i’d rather give away the one inch for the 2-3x stronger arm & more durable body, in a developmental QB prospect.
Why worry.
Do you really think they didn’t know what they paid for Gerhart?
Just like when they drafted AP they feel this is a valuable addition. They know the O-Line needs a back up. They have a plan.
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Joe Kapp
Brian Harewood and Ciron Black seem to be the best bets now.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
And we have our first punter
As the Patriots take Michigan’s Zoltan Mesko.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 11:47 AM CDT reply actions
BPA- Best Punter Available. Most thought he would go 6th round
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
I WANT Jason Campbell for our QBoTF!!!!!!!!
So smart if they do a trade now to get Campbell. He is game-ready, has the size, talent and desire to show everyone the Skins messed up his career path. DO IT VIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For this team, at this time, it would be so much better than drafting ANY of the projects left on the board.
Allen Fanneca is released. We can go sign him now.
New contract.
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You didn't know that?
That was out 3 hours ago
by PurpleJesus on Apr 24, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
News to me
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Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe we knew something?
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
thts
wat im starting to think
most ppl didnt know it until espn announced it, but it was already done
I made a fanpost about this
around 7:00 am this morning.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey, did you guys hear about the commercial William Shatner turned down?
Yeah. . .neither did I.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 11:52 AM CDT reply actions
funny thing is, shatner didn't know he turned it down either
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
Raiders looking to get Campbell!!!
Don’t let those idiots get Jason C., Vikes! GO AFTER IT NOW.
The Jets had to pay for the billion people they signed somehow
Woohoo, guard 4 us
I am pissed.
Raiders are gonna get Jason Campbell. We blew it, imho. Stupid not to get him.
why
I seem him as a slightly better version of TJ. Yeah more upside but I mean its like a clone of TJ in my opinion.
I agree with that entirely
Except Campbell is way too erratic
by PurpleJesus on Apr 24, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Wrong.
Campbell is 10x better in the long run, than TJax. HEAD, not talking about arm. Watch what he does with Raiders. STUPID of the Vikes to not snag him so cheap.
Disagree.
Did you watch Campbell last year? He was really indecisive and skittish. He looked shell-shocked.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
That probably has something to do
With the fact that the Redskins change offensive coordinators every stinkin’ year.
Put the guy in one system for a little bit and I think he’d be fine.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Possibly
I think he’s got talent but he seemed to be getting that David Carr hesitancy to him. Change of scenery could be good for him.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
exactly, what young qb wouldn't be affected by their disfunction
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
oakland is probably a good fit for him, how sad
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
Argh
Skelton just went to the Arizona Cardinals.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 12:04 PM CDT reply actions
Baltimore or Jacksonvill or even Arizona
If we can get past these next 4 picks I think we might be sitting pretty for Rolle.
"DFamn"
Didn’t I just spend the last half hour listening to you saying there were still two QBs better than him?
Now I am totally confused what you are thinking
You did
People projected Pike and LeFevour ahead of Skelton. Guess more people secretly liked him than everyone thought.
by PurpleJesus on Apr 24, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
People projected Pike and LeFevour ahead of Skelton. Guess more people secretly liked him than everyone thought.
Uh, not exactly. NFL.com rankings actually had Skelton above both of them. At the time Skelton got picked, he was BPA at QB, and I think actually even in top 6 of BPA for entire draft.
So I think it’s the opposite, you were in the minority projecting them ahead of Skelton.
But I guess it’s all academic at this point :(
No QBOTF this draft I guess
Forget Pike and Lefevour. Let’s look for OL and lb, and maybe more secondary
Rolle
I agree. I don’t like Pike or LeFevour.
by PurpleJesus on Apr 24, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
jake plummer isn't even 40 yet
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
Vikings really disappointing this Draft.
Sorry, but they are making some dubious picks and not being as aggressive with trades as I thought they ought to be. They had the collateral to trade, but spent too much to go after Gerhard. Now, we still have holes to fill and a lot of the talent is off the board. Raiders just made their smartest personnel move in years, getting Campbell for very little. I’m not happy.
What? If they hadn't traded they would only have one more pick so far.
And they would never had had an opportunity to put Gerhart in our offense. Whats the problem?
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
the "problem"?
Gerhard was not “essential” in my opinion. Other ways to get an effective RB to replace Taylor. I feel getting a value-added QB in his prime (Campbell) is a rare opportunity and that was just sitting there for the Vikings to get. I think we just have a difference of opiniion on philosophies. But, that’s how I would have played it; and used those two earlier picks to fill more pressijng needs (OL, interior DL; etc.)
Not "essential" but absolutely an Elite RB in this draft.
We had no chance at his talent in the 2nd without a trade or a reach.
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Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Have faith
I am sure they have a plan. We need DT help and could try and get Haynesworth for that. OL, Faneca is available. So let’s go after the Safety we need!
Rolle was projected as a 1st or 2nd round talent last year if he entered the draft. Tremendous value!
by PurpleJesus on Apr 24, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
i think they had a plan, and it disolved a lot when nobody dropped in their lap at #30
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
A plan is where you Plan for contingencies.
They simply wanted Gerhart and none of us saw it coming.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Saints jump in front of us.
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Joe Kapp
They took a center
Your blood pressure can now resume normal levels.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you really think we will go Safety?
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
Saints take a third round center.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
ditto
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
Tennent to SAINTS
Great choice by Saints. Would not have minded us getting him, I like Tennant’s upside.
Ciron Black- USC
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
Black went to LSU
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
your right
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know
I am just not high on USC players. More underachieve than you would expect.
by PurpleJesus on Apr 24, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Saints were prolly hoping Favre was watching
trying to give a heart attack.
_
I'm not buying into that yet.
But we will see. I think we need O-Line or LB
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Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Think Quality!
Remember where Rolle was projected last year? It owuld be a steal!
by PurpleJesus on Apr 24, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe we could do that with 167 though
I still want to see an OL guy. But I honestly don’t know who’s any good i what’s left.
Harewood
was brought in for a visit and is quite huge.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
mildew williams is costly
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
that they don't give
a good god damn about need
What's the Over/Under...
On expletives released by FSUViking if we don’t take Rolle if he’s available?
by San Diego Viking on Apr 24, 2010 12:16 PM CDT reply actions
LOL
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Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Off topic
But wow I just went outside and my dog’s dead, right next to the basketball goal.
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 12:17 PM CDT reply actions
I am so sorry.
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Apr 24, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you think it was the Saints that caused that?
Sorry for you and your family though
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Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh crap man
Sorry to hear that. :-(
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by VikesFaninNM on Apr 24, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
We're almost up!
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 12:18 PM CDT reply actions
Browns take a Safety.
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Joe Kapp
YA!
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Apr 24, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
And the Minnesota Vikings are on the clock!
The Browns take a safety that is NOT Myron Rolle.
I really hope that we use this pick on a safety that is.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 12:20 PM CDT reply actions
Thanks everyone but he was aging...
Lets Go Vikes ..yay tear
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 12:20 PM CDT reply actions
Wow clevelnad choose a safety...
It wasn’t Myron Rolle though.
Think we are gonna go OL like lifelongvike thinks. Maybe try and get Rolle in a couple of picks if he lasts.
Yep,
Espn has him rated a guard
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Its a Guard
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Joe Kapp
sadness
"This town, this night, this crowd
Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Apr 24, 2010 12:21 PM CDT reply actions
7 to go
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
DeGeare
Strengths
DeGeare is a huge guard with more than adequate height. Has a quick first step and engages fast. Strong run blocker who generates a good push and drives his man off the ball. Maintains a wide base and is stout against the bull rush.
Weaknesses
Does not have the endurance to give a consistent effort and carries too much bad weight. Fails to recognize stunts and blitzes and is generally late identifying his assignment. Shows inconsistent technique and does not use his hands well to get inside the defender’s pads.
here's another blip on....whatz his name?
Chris DeGeare G 6’4 335 Wake Forest
National Football Post: I massive road-grader who will likely kick inside at the next level and add to the Vikings’ power fun game
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
So we got a brainless lineman instead of
a brainy safety
"road-grader" instead of "rhodes scholar"
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
I trust our evaluation department.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
Now I'm OK with a safety or LB
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
Wow, big guard
DeGeare is 6’3 325lbs. That is bigger than our current guards. Are we still a zone-blocking team? Maybe not.
We were never a real
zone blocking team.
See our tackles
Only 4 to go
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jeez
our jumbo package will be really jumbo
get degeare in there with gerhart
along iwth the bookends
thats a lot of meat
nvm shank’s shank
Desire? Age?
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Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Apr 24, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
He has poor football instincts. He never did much in college despite being a vaunted athlete.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you kidding me?
He was hands down FSU best player, better than Patrick Robinson and he went in the first round, he didnt play his senior yedar because he was a rhodes scholar.
There are some coaches
who feel insecure about players smarter than they are.
Am I the only one who is feeling a little frustrated with this draft?
I mean, I am doing my best to have faith in a few of these picks, but kinda scratching my head and shaking it at the same time.
"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk."
"You men are only risking your lives, while I am risking an almost-certain Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor!"
"We have clearance Clarence. Roger Rodger, what's our vector Victor?"
but i'm not pretending i know any better
I’m trying to keep my faith they know what they are doing. they have earned that.
As I am, believe me
"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk."
"You men are only risking your lives, while I am risking an almost-certain Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor!"
"We have clearance Clarence. Roger Rodger, what's our vector Victor?"
by VikesFaninNM on Apr 24, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Most thought they would take a Guard early. This pick makes sense.
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Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Kyle Calloway still on the board
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Joe Kapp
Doesn't make him fast. Just smart. But I really like him also?
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Kerry Meier?
How in the heck do you catch 102 passes and NOT crack 1,000 yards? Seriously.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 12:29 PM CDT reply actions
Vikings Draft Obscure McRandom
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Come on put them up, let me hear it loud"
by Stay classy, Joe. on Apr 24, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Steelers Pick?
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Joe Kapp
got it.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
And here we go again!
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 12:31 PM CDT reply actions
I was wondering why so many teams are passing him up. (Rolle)
I was hoping to get this guy in the third round at first. Before we traded that pick.
As I said somewhere earlier
When he became a Rhodes Scholar he forwent is senior year so he didn’t play his senior year and enterred after he was done in England.
Black, Calloway, or Rolle
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
Can't trade a compensatory pick
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Nate Triplett, LB, Minnesota
Great. . .a linebacker from a defense that couldn’t stop Minneapolis North High School.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 12:33 PM CDT reply actions
And he graded out as a 3.0
What are we doing? Where’s the value?
by PurpleJesus on Apr 24, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
That's kind of diappointing
Felt like our LB corps was one of our strongest points coming into the draft.
Minnesota boy- LB
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Joe Kapp
ugh
a no name guy again
myron rolle
really falling
good pick
Why in the 5th round though? I guess he is projected to eventually challenge for an OLB spot.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Nate Triplett
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Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Gotta Go. Been fun guys.
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Joe Kapp
That Matt Millen thing could not have been greater.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
Uh, I can't pick players and insult people all the time.
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Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
matt millen, unemployed
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
again
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Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
What did Millen say?
I love Twins Baseball and Minnesota Vikings Football.
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Apr 24, 2010 12:35 PM CDT reply actions
he used the polish "n" word refering to jaworski
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
Ohhh Gotcha
Well thats not good
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Apr 24, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Millen....
… is an imbecile and a complete failure when it comes to talent evaluating. Now he’s guilty of proving he can’t handle live TV. What an @sshole!
Nate Triplett's scouting report
basically says he’s Jasper Brinkley except with less readiness
and less potential
WOw
Great sounds amazing… not. lol nah i wont rag on the guy but i just don’t understand why we took him given who was still left.
On the bright side
maybe his “nasty streak” translates to special teams.
Or maybe his job is to go in, get a late hit on Brees, get suspended, get money under table.
+100 on the last part ;)
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Apr 24, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I wanted to get Triplett
He is a greatly competitive linebacker and talented. I just thought we could sign him as a UDFA, but at least we got him.
First Minnesotan on the team, too.
Oh well
I think I’ll just catch up on the rest of the picks from tonight’s news. see you guys, have fun!
Highly!
With the exception of Gerhart I like none of it.
by PurpleJesus on Apr 24, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Kind of Disappointed myself
Toby was a nice pickup even if it was a little unexpected from my point of veiw
Disappointed about the Cook selection, really don’t think it was worth giving up a 3rd to move up 11 spots.
Disappointed we didn’t try and improve our secondary.
We moved up 11 spots to get Gerhart not Cook
Cook was taken with the 2nd round pick we received from the Lions for #30
When you look at it though...we really didn't need to draft much
Other than a CB for some depth and a RB for backup to AP
the left nostril, the right ear, and the place the their shorts get stuck
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
I'm not saying he is bad or anything just I thought we needed more help at Safety
I thought our Linebackers were pretty good coming into this draft, thought we wouldnt really need to draft one unless we could get a beast of one.
Can't believe Rolle has fallen so far
People have to be concerned he has been away from the game for a year
by PurpleJesus on Apr 24, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Vikings certainly don't come off as having one of the top 12 drafts this year
Anyone really want to dispute that?
Look at how aggressive and creative teams like the JETS and SEAHAWKS have been. I do realize we have a solid foundation, but to reach the Super Bowl, there is still a lot of work to be done. I just was hoping for more creative stuff with trades and better early round picks. Not overly excited by the #1 pick, and I felt Gerhard is a nice player, but not the highest priority. I wanted trades and maneuvering to put us in better positions. These last two picks are very ho-hum – players that are not nearly ready to contribute much. Maybe post-draft trades will happen???? I hope so.
two things
One, the trade up trade down thing was a mess, except we got both Chris Cook and Gerhart, so maybe it was worth it.
Second, we are drafting role players this year, not front-line starters.
Like I said after the NFCCG, our starters are really good to elite for the most part, but this team has lacked depth.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
anyone still for a qb?
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Apr 24, 2010 12:40 PM CDT reply actions
Not sure who is available anymore
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by VikesFaninNM on Apr 24, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
no.
Any QB taken now is a reach and a 3-4 year project. We missed the boat and should have traded for Jason Campbell. Now, it would be a stupid move to try to make an NFL starter of any of the remaining QBs. But I won’t be shocked if they reach, the way this draft has been going. :(
My grade thus far: C
heck yeah
Tyler Sheehan, 6th round I hope.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Possible
Appears to have done better in college then Jackson did. But is he a 3 year project tho?
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"We have clearance Clarence. Roger Rodger, what's our vector Victor?"
by VikesFaninNM on Apr 24, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he would be ready to 2011 or 2012. One-year or two-year prospect.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
One year
would be nice as we have only that really. Two years……….not sure how much of a study he would be under Jackson, let alone how much time he would have since it seems a QB carousel with Jackson as the starter.
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by VikesFaninNM on Apr 24, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
Still morning here and finishing my coffee
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by VikesFaninNM on Apr 24, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Vikings have three picks remaining
- (Sixth round)
- (Seventh round, taken from Detroit)
- (Seventh round)
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 12:41 PM CDT reply actions
The hell happened there?
Anyway. . .the picks are at 199, 214, and 237 overall.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder if we can wait until our 6th round pick for Rolle. I don't think so though.
I wonder what sort of a package if any we would try to move up.
Wait...Jason Campbell was traded to Oakland for a 4th round pick in 2012????
WE COULDN’T TOP THAT OFFER?
Exactly why my blood pressure is boiling!!!
IDIOTIC…. Jason Campbell will blossom in Oakland. He would have been a perfect successor to Favre. And we could have stolen him cheap! Tell me why not. This week has been a very troubling one for this long-time fan. I am clinging to faith, but NOT IMPRESSED with the front office. Trades are the only path now to righting what I see as a bunch of missed opportunities during the draft.
Campbell did not do great in Washington running the same offense as us. If he does well in Oakland, it will be because he fits their scheme better. His long wind up will be OK considering they want to throw deep all the time.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
you hit it right on the head
i heard the knock on him last year was that he was asked to spread and west coast it, and that his natural tendency is as a drop back pocket passer. i think he is better suited for a different scheme.
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
c'mon, Man!
He may have been in a similar scheme, but with mostly INFERIOR talent, dreadful coaching, a soap opera in the Front Office and a fan base in revolt…. not accurate to guage him fairly with all those difficulties.
all the reasons you stated...and...not best fit for the system
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
With 3 picks I don't know why they wouldn't pick a QB
No one would bat an eye if you picked a 6 or 7 QB, gave him a tryout to see if he’s the next Tom Brady and then cut/practice squaded him if he wasn’t.
WIth as many picks as the Vikes had this year and no real glaring weak spots, we’re in a good position to grab projects or risks.
Brace yourselves for the Draft Grades.
Watch how the “experts” grade this Minnesota Vikings draft in the next 24 hours or so. I anticipate the Front Office will get roasted a bit over the dubious selections, weird lack of innovative thinking, etc. I predict we will be way down toward the bottom 20% in most articles, post-draft.
good
I hope that leads everyone to pick the Packers to win the NFC North and go to the Super Bowl. That takes the pressure off the Vikings until they prove something in the regular season.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
And they always pick the Packers to win the NFC North and go to the Super Bowl, and the Vikings have won the division twice and have been closer than the Packers in the last few years.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
rationalize all you want...
…. the Packers SHOULD be favored. They are on the upswing. I won’t say what I truly feel about our team, but today certainly confirmed some of my worst fears. I’m loyal, but not blind or stupid.
I can understand being frustrated by the draft
but we’re still a much better and more complete team than the Packers.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
packers 12-4....vikings 10-6
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
Not anytime soon
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
let's hope not
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
I understand your frustration
But can you please loosen up on the negativity?
What was your initial reaction when the Vikings drafted Troy Williamson? Im sure like everybody else including me, you loved it.
How about Peterson? People were split. I was Pro AP
What about Rice? A guy nobody had heard of. Im confident you and most other people including me, thought Who the hell is this guy and why did we draft him?
Even My Boy Percy? A lotta people did not like that pick, and look where we’re at. ;)
Point being, is IMO we out here know nothing compared to the FO. We go by scouting reports written from OTHER guys, and what we here from McShay, Mayock, and Kiper.
The FO actually goes to see these guys live and they visit a lot of them and get a feel for them, you just have to trust in them. :)
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Apr 24, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
HA HA HA....
lighten up on the negativity? surely you jest.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Apr 24, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
too funny
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Haha
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Apr 24, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
hated the Williamson pick
I was bitterly disappointed because I wanted a guy called Merriman. The funny thing is, that would have really amped up the Love Boat scandal.
I was pro AD. I had never eard of Rice. I was pro Percy.
I was pro Kevin Williams.
Back in the early 80s, I wanted Marino. Joey Browner turned out to be a great player but wasn’t Marino.
On this draft, I’m giving it a high grade so far, but the next three picks are critical. We need players like Tyler Sheehan, Jay Ross, Kevin Matthews, Duke Calhoun, Blair White, and Jeromy Miles.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
And those analysts always get it right too! This has been a good draft. No splash and no need for it. Good players and be value for them. Continuing to win games will be all the hype the Vikings need.
depth and role players
Problems addressed, problems solved, depth added.
No one has been drafted who will start on day one, but so far all of them are likely to make the team and make the 2010 team better than the 2009 team.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
i just hope the fo keeps quiet and doesn't try to "spin it" with false assurance
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
just be realistic
Faneca has slipped a lot in last 2 years. He might be okay for a year, but….
There is no but.
1 year of quality guard is all we ask of him.
Absofuckinglutely
He “struggled in pass protection” but him struggling is prolly better than Herrera “succeeding”.
And his pro bowl wasn’t like Mckinnie’s, he’s had it 9 times.
Should be a good competition between Herrera and Sullivan at that point fo rcenter too.
OK but
How did Orlando Pace work out for the Bears?
If we are still a zone-blocking team, how does Faneca fit?
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Not at all, just like the rest of our line.
The hope is we abandon this zone blocking stuff, we don’t have any suitable personnel for it.
Everything @ iowaron
yeah…. this year pretty much sucked…. The Vikes would at least get one person I would like. All the corners….. bah. They missed bad.
DeGeare
DeGeare is younger. If we don’t go with Faneca that’s fine. Faneca isn’t what he used to be.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Only need him
to be a hired gun for a year. Why not?
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Degeare's scouting report says
that he has no idea in pass protection whatsoever. apparently doesn’t know what a stunt is.
He isn't very smart either apparently
so not quickly.
Hey if Gerhart turns out to be a stud, & 2 or 3 guys that can upgrade the team.
That’s about all we can ask for. Picking at the back of the draft sucks.
How does that make sense?
… when players drafted after our picks are fine players.
Bears take LeFevour
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 1:10 PM CDT reply actions
Thank goodness he’s off the board. And the Bears picked another one of their quarterbacks.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Ouch
National Football Post: An overrated quarterback prospect who struggles when asked to make NFL throws. Looks like nothing more than a backup QB.
Draft grades can be misleading.
Hey It’s not like we are the Rams. Half the guys they pick will start. Half the guys we pick will be lucky to even make the team.
So far, yes
And we’re 15 picks away from Minnesota’s next selection.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
In Chicago's defense
It’s not every draft you can take a guy in the sixth round that immediately becomes the best guy at his position on your roster.
But the Bears have done just that with LeFevour.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 1:15 PM CDT reply actions
Hometown kid too. A little fan pleasing action
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
funny
l like it!
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by montana vikes fan on Apr 24, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait a minute!
LeFevour isnt their best QB, they have Hanie
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Apr 24, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Tyler Sheehan, quarterback
Bowling Green. High upside.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Tyler Sheehan helped a diminutive, slow receiver become the most productive receiver in college football, Freddie Barnes. And there was no running game on the entire team. The load was completely on Sheehan, and he succeeded.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Why waste the space on the roster.
Farve,Jackson, Roesensomething, we are full up at QB.
exactly
That’s why we need a no-name quarterback with high upside who can sit on the practice squad for a year.
Daryll Clark is another possibility.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Bill Stull
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
This is the point of the draft that a team finds that diamond in the rough.
A kid , like Rolle, that has exceptional talent and if he does well can actually make the roster.
Any QB we take needs to be an UFA. Snead, Stull, Sheehan, many can be chosen from.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 1:22 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
disagree
I don’t question his passion. With his 126 IQ, he is not really a brain surgeon. He would make a great football player though.
What I question is his football ability.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
He has the smarts to really aid him in football, but he doesn’t have good “football instincts” or ball skills. If we take him, though, great.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
and for le$$ pay
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
13 to go
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Jackson will start next year after Favre retires.
We will pick a QB next year. If Jackson comes through then we win, if not the guy we draft will have been with us a year and will get his shot.
by iowaron on Apr 24, 2010 1:24 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I suspect that next year we will find a reason not to pick a highly rated QB.
We are experts at finding a reason not to take a highly rated QB.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
That is either funny or downright scary. I think we will get one next year though, unless Jackson blossoms.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
How many draft picks will you pay? A whole draft?
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
If Clausen and McCoy turn out to be good I will never forgive Spielman for his QB evaluation skills.
If they flop I will never doubt him.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
McCoy seemed to go in the area a lot of people thought he would go. There has to be some good reasons why Clausen dropped so far. The whole league passed on him at least once and many teams passed on him twice. I could see us being wrong but it’s a stretch to believe the whole league screwed up in evaluating Clausen.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I totally agree. I just can't find the real reason he is downgraded.
Carolina certainly feels like they got a first round pick. Only time will tell.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions
rolle...we gotta get another smart guy for toby to hang with
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Good Point
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Next year we will get a QB
With Locker, Luck, Mallet, Terrelle Pryor, Nick Foles, Pat Devlin etc…
I like adam
if he had an OL he would be at the top
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by montana vikes fan on Apr 24, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Not a good idea.
Taking the 6th best QB next year gives you the same chance as the 6th this year. Next to none. If the Vikes want a Qb they will need to move up in the first round to get one. I doubt this staff will pay the price.
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Dezmon Briscoe is still up there
he would be a great 2nd slot WR behind Percy
Was thinking the same thing
As highly touted as he was…. Seems tremendous value on linemen and CB’s this year.
People were actually suggesting
We wait in Round 2 and grab him instead of Gerhart.
I much prefer what we did if that was the alternative scenario.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t know. Guys with names like “Dezmon” or “Dez” tend to have character concerns. Sorry. Just my opinion.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
And if I remember, Randy
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Tom Brady, Donovan McNabb, Kerry Collins, Brett Favre, Charlie Frye, Trent Edwards, Bruce Gradkowski, Matt Hassellback, Brian Griese, Shaun Hill, Kevin Kolb, Peyton Manning, JT O’Sullivan, Chad Pennington, Sage Rosenfels, Michael Vick, D.J. Shockley, Drew Stanton, Tyler Thigpen and Seneca Wallace
Oooo Brett Favre!
I think we should go out and get him
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Apr 24, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, how about them back-ups. Because the franchise guys ain't gonna be there.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah thats what I meant, just seems we could've gotten more value at our picks in the 5th.
Dwyer looks beast in his highlight video if anyone is watching it.
How?
Myron Rolle may still be there at 190
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Apr 24, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
*199
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Apr 24, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I really hope that he is.
Both Baltimore and Dallas are coming up though. If he is still there then they have to atleast think about picking him up. Really surprised atm. A lot of people must have forgotten about him.
If they pick him up there
I think quite a few of the people still watching will instantly reappraise the front office.
I look at the grades also
Our guys graded out a 2.0 and a 3.0 in that round. Still a lot of 7.0+ players out there at various positions (Dwyer was one). Otherwise our other picks are all 7.0+.
Frankly, they were horible picks if you look at the grades.
Other potential developmental QBs
That I haven’t seen mentioned a whole lot yet. . .
Levi Brown out of Troy
Jarrett Brown from West Virginia
Matt Nichols from Eastern Washington
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 1:39 PM CDT reply actions
Don't forget
Zac Robinson from Oklahoma State
Tony Pike from Cincy
ones I like
The ones I like are Matt Nichols, Max Hall, Daryll Clark (all bowl game winners this year) and Tyler Sheehan (had bowl game won with 41 seconds to go, but his special teams and defense then gave up a quick touchdown and two-pointer to lose at the end). Of them, Sheehan not only is the best pro prospect, he has already had clutch success in the Metrodome.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Jarret Brown had a great Senior Bowl if I recall
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Bill Stull- Pitt.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Or a great QB in any other system also.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
MB - Who's the best value left. The running back that hurt his neck?
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Dorin Dickerson, LeGarrette Blount.
I think Sheehan is the top value available right now.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
We're at pick #195
Almost time for the Vikings to take a turn again!
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 1:44 PM CDT reply actions
Legarret Blount- Dorin Dickerson
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Maybe they need my help
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Who?
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Personally I think that LB we just grabbed was a complete and utter reach.
Cook is risky, seems to play when he wants too. I’ll give them the benifit of the doubt on him but I don’t think it was good value trading up 11 spots to grab Toby. Yes I like the kid and think he is great for us but I don’t know if it was that great value given howmany good rbs were still around here in the 6th.
Oh, he is very reformed. Will run with a chip on his shoulder.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
He ran very well after his suspension was lifted.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
And the Minnesota Vikings are on the clock!
With the 199th overall selection.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 1:54 PM CDT reply actions
another offensive lineman?
We screwed up by not taking OL in the 4th round, and now we still have need there. I hope they are not panicking. The DeGeare pick may have been panic though. He is very slow, big, and there are questions on his mental quickness. Staying optimistic that he can come in and help though.
Texans and Panthers
Either one think wants a safety? Ok and if we are really stupid and don’t pick Rolle up again at 6th, who do we aim for?
Safety, LB, or DT
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Pick is in!
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 1:58 PM CDT reply actions
And NFL Network goes off
Just before showing the pick, natch.
Jerks.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Kyle Calloway?
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
i JUST DONT UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN PASS A GUY OF THIS TALENT AND GREATNESS UP.A
-CAPS BTW MY BAD FOR THAT :P
And
Im getting tired of seeing the frikken Cowboys war room every 30 seconds
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by VikesFaninNM on Apr 24, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
this makes
it 5 guys they have drafted that ive never heard of
Hey guys, we got a quarterback I never heard of. I hope he’s good.
by medicineball on Apr 24, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
A QB Joe Webb????????????
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And the Vikings select
Joe Webb, QB, Alabama-Birmingham
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 2:00 PM CDT reply actions
I guess we don't need any other roster spots filed.
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Terrible Horrible pick.
Cannot understand the logic going on in the FO this year. Just mind boggling..
Well, a bunch of people were saying "GET A DEVELOPMENTAL QB"
They got one. strong arm, good mobility, no brains yet tho.
For everyone who wanted to pick players to win Now, I say this.
That pick makes no sense to me.
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by lifelongvike on Apr 24, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
name the last 6th round draft pick for this team...
to make a significant contribution in his rookie year.
214 our next pick
Guess something about Rolle turned just about everyone in the NFL off. He could possibly be around by 214, still.
I am out of here.
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Uh
Any relation to Jack Webb?
Seriously tho, this guy looks like Jackson part 2
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Webb's Stats as a QB
YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
2006 33 51 426 64.7 8.35 39 1 0 9 141.34
2007 65 117 679 55.6 5.80 31 5 1 5 116.69
2008 208 353 2367 58.9 6.71 43 10 16 22 115.53
2009 162 271 2299 59.8 8.48 77 21 8 23 150.70
It is Jackson Part 2
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by VikesFaninNM on Apr 24, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
if he
s going to try wr then im fine with it
but y not take the risk on rolle
there no risk now
He will be a receiver.
From Al.com:
JOE WEBB
Height, weight: 6-3, 226
40-yard dash: 4.43
Bench (225 pounds): 21*
Hand size: 10 ¾
Arm length: 33 ¾
Vertical jump: 42 ½ *
20-yard shuttle: 3.91*
Career passing numbers: 468-792-25, 5,771 yards, 37 TDs
Career rushing numbers: 2,774 yards, 24 TDs
Career receiving numbers: 32-471, 4 TDs
*Better than any wide receiver who participated in the NFL Draft combine
by PurplePeopleEaters on Apr 24, 2010 2:06 PM CDT reply actions
Those are some really good measureables
but I have no idea who this guy is.
by CanadianViking on Apr 24, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
He's also a Running QB
Rushing Stats
YEAR TEAM ATT YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LOST
2006 UAB 24 38 1.6 36 1 0 0 0
2007 UAB 67 288 4.3 28 1 0 0 0
2008 UAB 198 1021 5.2 41 11 0 0 0
2009 UAB 227 1427 6.3 71 11 0 0 0
Really disappointed with the pick
Cannot understand how you pass up Rolle 3 times. Yeah maybe he is there with 214 but given how we have been drafting who is of the camp that we are gonna go out and pickj a name out of a hat and use them.
Well it is the last 2 rounds of the draft. That’s kind of how it goes. I doubt the other teams picking are as shocked and surprised as most fans are.
You are probably right but I dont see the sense in picking a QB when we need way more help in our secondary.
Maybe Webb becomes amazing and proves me completely wrong but who honestly sees him as our QBOTF Like someone else said, seems TJ Project Round 2
Tony Pike gone
Going to Carolina.
That’s the THIRD quarterback the Panthers have taken (Clausen, Armanti Edwards, and now Pike)
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 2:16 PM CDT reply actions
I'm willing to give Webb a chance at WR...
Nice combine numbers…. let’s see how his hands are…
Plus having a WR that can throw might throw a few interesting plays into the mix…
by Loki Loves Purple on Apr 24, 2010 2:18 PM CDT reply actions
And there goes Myron Rolle
Last pick of Round 6 to the Tennessee Titans
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 2:21 PM CDT reply actions
i'm glad we upgaded the scout team, it was starting to worry me
...the game serves us, it has a definite social purpose. in the future there will be no war...there will only be Rollerball.
OMG
We pick a QB over Rolle and I will put $1000 Rolle has a longer and better career then Webb. Absolutely terrible FO decsion
Webb will apparently be moved to WR
This from Jeff Legwold of the Denver Post:
At 6-feet-2, 223 pounds, Webb was hand-timed by some scouts in attendance at 4.44 in the 40-yard dash, had an astounding vertical jump of 42 inches and an 11-foot-5-inch standing broad jump. Just for reference Detroit Lions wide receiver Calvin Johnson had one of the best combine workouts in recent memory for a big-framed wide receiver and his vertical was 42 at the 2007 combine to go with an 11-7 broad jump. Webb’s vertical would have been the best among the wide receivers who were at the combine (Webb was not there), and his 40 time would have put him among the fastest and his size would have made him among the biggest. So, in short, with that kind of explosiveness somebody will try to find a position for this guy to play. It’s not like he doesn’t understand the game. He threw for at least 2,200 yards and rushed for at least 1,000 yards in each of his two seasons as the Blazers’ starting quarterback.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 2:25 PM CDT reply actions
I am utterly pissed off right now.
Just shocked we did that. Screams Chilldreave no desire now to watch the rest of the draft.ss thinking he can develop a qb.
We need help at Safety and yet we still choose someone who isnt even the next highest rated QB. I am just so disappointed at the FO for their decisions this year. I can’t wrap my head around taking Webb over Roll,e.
H
We dont NEED
a Safety. Jamarca Sanford played very well when he wasnt busy taking out our MLB knee. Tyrell Johnson also came on at the end of the season. If needed we can move Toine to Safety too, so we dont NEED a safety.
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Apr 24, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Touche
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Apr 24, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe just maybe
we can move Webb to Safety.
Can he hit? He can move, and ya never know, maybe there’s a lot of INTs with those big hands.
No desire to watch the draft anymore
NJext they will be calling me on my cellphone and ask me to pad up.
And we're on the clock again!
Pick #214 overall.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 2:34 PM CDT reply actions
I remember just a few years ago...
Looking at the RB corp of Taylor and Moore….
And getting SO upset when we picked an RB in the first round…
Yeah, this Adrian Peterson guy looks ok, but we don’t need him….
oops…. lol…
by Loki Loves Purple on Apr 24, 2010 2:35 PM CDT reply actions
And the pick is
Penn State TE Mickey Shuler
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 2:38 PM CDT reply actions
TE?
"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk."
"You men are only risking your lives, while I am risking an almost-certain Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor!"
"We have clearance Clarence. Roger Rodger, what's our vector Victor?"
Shuler is the son of ex-NFL TE Mickey Shuler Sr. and has a good understanding of the game thanks to his bloodlines. He is a big, powerful tight end that can overpower defenders to the ball when in a crowd and shows good strength as an in line blocker. He oozes off the line and lacks explosiveness when coming out of his breaks which makes it difficult to separate from defenders. He lacks much in the way of elusiveness when running after the catch. His best chance is as a No. 2 or 3 tight end that is used primarily as a second blocker.
"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk."
"You men are only risking your lives, while I am risking an almost-certain Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor!"
"We have clearance Clarence. Roger Rodger, what's our vector Victor?"
Woops
Forgot to add that was from NFL.com in the headline
"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk."
"You men are only risking your lives, while I am risking an almost-certain Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor!"
"We have clearance Clarence. Roger Rodger, what's our vector Victor?"
by VikesFaninNM on Apr 24, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow
Did it die in here suddenly
"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk."
"You men are only risking your lives, while I am risking an almost-certain Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor!"
"We have clearance Clarence. Roger Rodger, what's our vector Victor?"
It might have
Or the thread might be lagging. . .
But, really. . .I’m not starting a new thread when we’ve only got one pick left to make.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Hear you there
I know few got tweaked by the last pick, but reading up on the guy, might be a nice blocker for some running plays once he learns the ropes. Still wishing maybe a Safety or QB at this point but pickings are slim
"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk."
"You men are only risking your lives, while I am risking an almost-certain Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor!"
"We have clearance Clarence. Roger Rodger, what's our vector Victor?"
by VikesFaninNM on Apr 24, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
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by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Apr 24, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I actually didn't know anything about Rolle...
But, from what I saw on ESPN, I would have liked to have drafted him for his character and smarts, if nothing else…
by Loki Loves Purple on Apr 24, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe not
but given the fact I knew how good he was and that we had a couple chances to take him I felt it was a win-win situation.
If i didn’t know someone was in the draft then obviously I cant get upset if I don’t know they are there but I did so its sort of a redundant point, would I miss something that I didnt know was even there, well obviously probably not but I would once it had gone but Iif I knew I was able to go and get the said thing then I would be disappointed in not being able to get it.
You also got to give me some leeway in that I’m a nole and IU’ve been down on the feild next to the guys during some good and bad times anrd as a leader Rolle was awesome, being able to be around a guy like him was inspiring. I just think he would’ve given us a really good player first off but also a great leader, whenever FSU was down in a game it would be Rolle stepping up trying to get people back in the game and jacked up to win and not let our “tradition” take a hit.
Obviously I cannot do anything about it at this point but I can be upset they didn't choose my dude from my University where I work.
Good luck to Webb, prove me wrong dude.
And we're on the clock for the last time
With pick number 237 overall. Woo-hoo!
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 3:27 PM CDT reply actions
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand. . .commercial
Like I should have expected differently.
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by Christopher Gates on Apr 24, 2010 3:30 PM CDT reply actions
Oops
They did again…….. ;-)
"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk."
"You men are only risking your lives, while I am risking an almost-certain Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor!"
"We have clearance Clarence. Roger Rodger, what's our vector Victor?"
by VikesFaninNM on Apr 24, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmmmmmmmm
"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk."
"You men are only risking your lives, while I am risking an almost-certain Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor!"
"We have clearance Clarence. Roger Rodger, what's our vector Victor?"
D'Imperio
First of all, great name. Second of all, Rutgers Scarlet Knights all the way.
Third, never heard of him. Hope he’s good.
Perhaps there are a few QB options they will look at with the undrafted ones. Never know
"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk."
"You men are only risking your lives, while I am risking an almost-certain Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor!"
"We have clearance Clarence. Roger Rodger, what's our vector Victor?"
Well, have a good afternoon all.
"If you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk."
"You men are only risking your lives, while I am risking an almost-certain Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor!"
"We have clearance Clarence. Roger Rodger, what's our vector Victor?"
Agree with Kiper 100%
Guess we will see how this draft unfolds in a year or so, overall interesting draft but one that doesn’t match up to past drafts in my opinion.
Childress to be on ESPN after the commercials.
Well
The only players I can say I’m somewhat excited about are Gerhart and Griffen. I’m not disappointed but more intrigued overall. I was really hoping for an immediate starter quality pick for the secondary and I’m hoping Cook will be that guy, but I can’t say the pick instills confidence. I’ll give the Vikes staff a break though as they have done a good job in the past and seem to know what they are doing (with the exception of QBs).
It's not just you, he does.
But so does every other person employed by an NFL team.
I’m fine with our draft. As important as who we took is who we didn’t take. Clearly the people paid to run our team didn’t feel like Safety and DT were a priority which can possibly indicate how they feel about Sanford/Tyrell and about possibly about Letroy Guion— or it could be that the values of the players available just weren’t there when they wanted it. I personally like the last two safeties we’ve drafted and didn’t feel it was a need going into this year’s draft but my opinion doesn’t count.
As you feel about Myron Rolle (that we may someday regret not taking a chance on him, right?) I feel about Colt McCoy and possibly Clausen (just because I didn’t feel there would be a chance for us to get him), but moreso Colt McCoy. The fact that Holmgren drafted him makes me feel a little worse. I sincerely hope that we don’t rue the day we didn’t take Colt McCoy, and now I’m rooting against a kid who seems like a genuinely good person for the sole purpose of making my team look correct in their assessment.
Loyalties can lead to very confusing feelings.
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