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Brett Favre. . .the Obsession Continues

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As we saw for all those years in Green Bay and now with the Vikings, the Brett Favre circus never really stops.  The funniest part about it to me is the fact that the same media members that obsess over Favre's every move are often the ones that lament how much press the guy gets.

Take for example the story by Ed Werder of ESPN.com a couple of weeks ago that "broke" the "news" that Favre would need ankle surgery if he wanted to play in 2010.  Sure, fine, this is a legitimate story.  Or, at least, it would have been if it had been based on anything resembling facts.  What ended up happening was Favre coming out within an hour or so saying that any surgery that would be necessary would essentially be a clean-up and that he could play in 2010 with or without the surgery.  But in between, if you follow some of the NFL media hierarchy via Twitter and other means. . .Adam Schefter, most notably. . .they were taking some jabs at Favre for, apparently, "needing" to get his name back in the media.

Yes, because I'm certain that Favre called Ed Werder and told him something like that so that he could come out and shoot it down minutes later.  That makes plenty of sense.

See, the thing is that the media collectively groans about the coverage Favre gets, all the while seemingly being unable to admit that they created this monster.  And for all the talk of whether Favre is coming back for 2010 or not, I've yet to hear a single Viking fan. . .on this site, in any case. . .getting wrapped up in any of the "drama" that's associated with it.  I mean, his coach has come out and said he can take all the time he needs to decide. . .his teammates have said that he can take all the time he needs to decide. . .and, having watched Favre all these years, we know full well that he's going to take as long as he damn well pleases to decide.  He might be there for training camp, he might miss training camp. . .and missing camp certainly was disastrous for him last year, huh. . .nobody knows for sure.

But the only people that matter on that front are Favre's Minnesota Vikings teammates and the Minnesota Vikings' coaching staff.  It doesn't matter what Packer fans or Bear fans think. . .those teams have enough issues of their own to deal with. . .it doesn't matter what the blogosphere thinks, and it certainly doesn't matter what the national media thinks.  There's no "drama."  The Minnesota Vikings will play football in 2010 with or without Brett Favre, and they'll be a damn good football team with or without Brett Favre.

The only "drama" is created by those that are endlessly and hopelessly obsessed with the man.  And, really. . .whose fault is that?

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Favre has played a bit part in this, though

It’s easy to just say ’I’m retired’ or ’I’m coming back for 2010’. But yeah, overall ESPN is doing yeoman’s work in creating news from absolutely nothing.

So I used to go by MilCardFan, but I was able to change my screen name. Because I'm kind of a big deal. People know me. Yeah.

by Ted Glover on May 13, 2010 9:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Well, yeah

But this isn’t exactly “news” or anything, either. Particularly the part where Ed Werder was throwing crap at the wall in an effort to see what would stick.

I mean, really. . .get back to us in August or so.

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by Christopher Gates on May 13, 2010 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree 100%

All ESPN does any more is throw crap on the wall to see what sticks.

So I used to go by MilCardFan, but I was able to change my screen name. Because I'm kind of a big deal. People know me. Yeah.

by Ted Glover on May 13, 2010 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, it's really not that easy

because he tends to change his mind, like most people do. I hate how we all expect him to make a choice and stick to his guns. It’s his career, let him do what he wants. I actually like that he hasn’t made a strong statement. Because I don’t want to hear all the moaning and complaining when he decides differently after giving it some extra thought. People just need to relax and wait a whopping 3 or 4 months to figure out what he’s going to do. It’s not as big a deal as the media makes it.

by Frost on May 13, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Favre does like and feed into the attention. There is no denying that.

To say that “he might be there for training camp” isn’t worth saying because it won’t happen. If he comes back he will miss camp just like last year and thats just fine.

Favre has been drawing off this attention for years and admitted he wants to feel wanted. The media does create way to much hype, but Favre certainly does like the attention. He has admitted he wants to feel wanted, but he takes it too far. We as Viking fans will put up with it because of the success and heart he showed last year. However when he was doing this will I won’t I retire before joining the Vikings most of us were bashing him.

I try not to pay much attention to the drama, but it is everywhere. It just gets tiring. He does give the Vikings the best shot at a ring, so I’ll take the Diva.

Favre's ankle, Starcaps BS and hopefully a busy Piston offseason, oh my. Go Netherlands/Holland/Dutch Soccer(no its not Football)!

by VikesPma on May 13, 2010 10:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah I personally dont mind, but that's more because we don't have any option

If we had a decent back up QB, I would be pretty much of the mind to toss Favre out on the street. Since we don’t and I like winning I’m game with letting Favre do his little dance. However, it is a little dance, I know the man is old, I know he’s been doing this a long time. He knows it as well and needs to decide if he’s going to honor the contract he signed with the Vikings.

Honestly, if we had Kolb or someone with skill sitting behind him would we be as easy going about him?

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on May 14, 2010 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I have seen no evidence that proves that Favre wants this type of publicity

If he did want to live in the limelight 24/7 as you and many others suggest, I would think that he would be doing that someplace other than Kiln, Mississippi.

"We have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-from Bram Stoker's Dracula

by NMVike on May 14, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure Favre has ever missed a day of training camp while under contract with a team. I guess the year he got sent to the Jets you could say he was under contract with the Packers, but you know what I mean. The whole training camp thing is a myth. He doesn’t like going to OTs or training over the off-season in programs in Green Bay or probably Minneapolis. Those aren’t training camp. If you want to, you could take time and find out that his history is being one of the most intense and dedicated players at training camps over his career.

Saying he desires to be wanted isn’t an indicator that he promotes media attention or likes it. The accusation doesn’t fit with his extreme behavior at avoiding media attention. It probably has more to do with his teammates and the fanbase.

Can you name one thing that is Diva like? Seriously of all the claptrap that is vomited endlessly by morons on talk radio and BSPN, the Diva tag is one of the most ignorant.

by Salty on May 14, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

The constant will I, won't I retire than unretire season after season

Is almost unprecedented. Lots of guys come out of retirement, but to do it for so many seasons is what makes him a Diva. Like I said before I’ll(we as Viking fans) will put up with it because he gives the Vikes their best shot at a Super Bowl. I’ll take that Diva any day of the week because he is great and shows heart.

What is a male diva? Who really knows, but its one way to describe his wishy-washyness about whether he will return season after season. I want him to come back, but he certainly uses every ounce of our patience. Good thing he is as good as he is and can get away with it.

Favre's ankle, Starcaps BS and hopefully a busy Piston offseason, oh my. Go Netherlands/Holland/Dutch Soccer(no its not Football)!

by VikesPma on May 14, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

No matter what all the packers fans tell you...

He’s retired twice. If that is your definition of “so many seasons” then that’s fine. Jordan retired 3 times.

by dsludo on May 14, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

So many seasons of will I won't I

Were much more than the two seasons he did retire. He has gone back and forth on the decision publicly for at least the 5 offseansons.

Favre will retire eventually for a 3rd time and probably will be for good. Hopefully not soon.

When Jordan spoke of retirement it at least meant he would take some time not playing. The first two times Jordan reitired was after winning 3 titles each time! He came back the last time to help a team he had part ownership in to be a player/coach on the floor. I don’t see the 2 guys situations all that comparable, not to mention Jordan is not only is the best basketball player of all time, but maybe the greatest athelete ever. Favre has one title and is knowhere in that discussion.

Favre's ankle, Starcaps BS and hopefully a busy Piston offseason, oh my. Go Netherlands/Holland/Dutch Soccer(no its not Football)!

by VikesPma on May 14, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

nowhere not "knowhere".

Favre's ankle, Starcaps BS and hopefully a busy Piston offseason, oh my. Go Netherlands/Holland/Dutch Soccer(no its not Football)!

by VikesPma on May 14, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well when you consider that at least

one of those retirements was done for the sole purpose of manipulating himself onto this team, I don’t have as much of a problem with it.

by dsludo on May 14, 2010 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love what Favre has done for the Vikings

The will I won’t I retire publicy from him for the last 5 off-seasons has gotten tiring/ irritating. Yeah, yeah just ignore it. Thats kinda hard when its up on NFL news everywhere and I won’t ignore NFL sites because of it.

Favre's ankle, Starcaps BS and hopefully a busy Piston offseason, oh my. Go Netherlands/Holland/Dutch Soccer(no its not Football)!

by VikesPma on May 14, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Jordan retired 3 times" so you are saying jordan was a diva too?

in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.

by jethrophet on May 14, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jordan was no Diva

Don’t get my words twisted. Jordan at least took some time away from the game when he retired the 1st and 2nd time.

Michael Jordan is/was NO Diva!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Favre's ankle, Starcaps BS and hopefully a busy Piston offseason, oh my. Go Netherlands/Holland/Dutch Soccer(no its not Football)!

by VikesPma on May 14, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

okay, okay....i forgot the smiley face thingy :)

jordan was a winner like no other, he wouldn’t skip camp if he was under contract.

in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.

by jethrophet on May 14, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

i don't think he is a diva, i just think he is a prima donna...

bear with me here….easy salty….i will try to clarify what is only my opinion (last time i was just ripping on the situation, poking fun of the drama by sounding dramatic).

i just think brett wants to be left alone, to hide out and do his thing, and eat a lot of waffles all day.
but, i do think that he believes he is a legend, and that he thinks he is entitled to call the shots because of it.

well, he is a legend. he has been around a long time, he’s old, he’s battered and he plays for a team that is willing to let him dictate the circumstances. that is chilly’s poison, his deal with the devil. i think that is the only way brett would play for anyone. he knows that someone will meet his terms. so he milks it because he can.

i think brett recognizes that all of the attention he gets through the “media vomit”, as salty so eloquently refers to, helps his brand, his legend, and his position with a team willing to wait on him and let him call the shots.

i give chilly credit for taking this hands off approach, and to then limit brett to three options per play. although i’ll bet this is a point of friction between them behind closed doors. i do think it is the best way to get the best out of brett and contain the mistakes he would otherwise make on the field. but that is chilly’s poison. i think the lack of a “threat” at back up qb is also his way of managing brett’s ego. he is placing his bet on favre, and committing to it.

it’s this that i really don’t like. i love brett, he looks great in purple, but the coach sucking up to the qb like this makes me want to vomit. the least you can say is that the coach treats him like a prima donna. jmho.

in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.

by jethrophet on May 14, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Most or perhaps all veteran QBs have choices at the line of scrimmage. There is nothing unusual about that. You don’t know what the dialogue between them is. If you want to imagine something to get upset, that’s up to you.

I don’t get why having him commit early only to be unable to play would be so much better.

by Salty on May 14, 2010 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, not all veteran qb’s get the leeway they would like to have, and i think favre wants a lot more than he gets. we saw the friction bubble to the surface a bit last year.

plus, since he is under contract, it would be nice to see him in winter park so that the trainers can work with him, so the team can assess their investment, so he can work with the rookies, so he can work with the team for voluntary workouts, so he can work with the team at mandatory workouts, so that he can work with the team in training camp, so he can break film down with the coaches and figure out how to do better this year, and maybe, it would demonstrate the type of leadership that would convince people that the reason he is there is to do all that he can to win a championship….that’s why i would like to see him demonstrate commitent to his contract. most or perhaps all veteran QBs do this type of thing. there is nothing unusual about that.

also, if he is unable to play, at least the team could find out sooner than later and focus on plan “b” before all options close up on that one. so those are my reasons to want to see him participate with the team in the off-season. i just want the best chance of winning.

in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.

by jethrophet on May 14, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

So you are committed to imagining things

From all the reports Favre doesn’t have some weird arrangement. He almost never calls audibles. Showing up for a glorified rookie orientation will drive a few news stories and nothing else.

Which player last year said his leadership was anything less than great?

Again, you don’t know the conversations that go on between him and the team.

by Salty on May 20, 2010 6:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

hey PMA

i hope t jak plays well this year for ya…. or do u guys still have jd boooooty!! nice booooty

by derbyz81 on May 14, 2010 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Booty is on the practice squad

or at least he was last year. No telling if he’s gonna stick around again this year or not, but I kind of doubt it since they aren’t considering him for a pre-season roster spot.

by Frost on May 14, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

hope he does ... if not we will return 21 of 22 starters

not too many NFL teams can say that … yeah we would be better if #4 chose to play … we will still be dang good if he decides to stay home and god knows he has earned the right to do so … the purple will still win the division and will still hav a gr8 shot at gettin the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow … i just can not imagine #4 sittin home watchin that game from his easy chair … like i said he has earned the right to do so …

MGR4FUN

by MGR4FUN on May 14, 2010 4:50 AM CDT reply actions  

ok just being the devils advocate here

How has he earned the right to sign a two year contract then waffle on it for a year. I’m not sure what you need to do for that, but I think it has to do with a team having a terrible back up QB so it has no choice but to do what Favre wants.

This is the business world not just the sports world the only rights people have are what their contracts state. Favres contract states he’ll be playing for two years. Heck I hope he plays, I hope we win the super bowl, I just hope he honors his contract.

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on May 14, 2010 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually,

I remember reading that the Vikings think Jackson has really progressed from sitting back on the sidelines last year. The optimist in me hopes he comes out and lights the league on fire, which probably won’t happen. But the realist in me figures that he could, possibly, be a Kyle Orton-type QB, which isn’t all that terrible.

by Frost on May 14, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Favre

I don’t mind the waiting to make a decision. Many things can happen that would make him decide differently in the off-season. For example, the Williams wall could get suspended for the first four games for sure and Brett may feel it is now more questionable to return. But, than the Vikings could sign Albert Haynesworth in place, in hoping to utuilize him during the suspension of the Williams wall. Granted we are only adding 1 supposably good player while two sit out, but than again, when the Williams wall returns, we have 3 great DT to cycle in & out keeping legs fresh. I think the less that changes with the Vikings, the easier it will be for Brett to make a decision. For all we know, since the draft, he has been watching videos of Chris Cook, T. Gerhart, Everson Griffen, Webb, and so forth to see what has been added to the team and if they may be great improvements.

I think, Favre would love the chance to make an amazing receiver out of Webb…

Anyways, how would I get to shout the phrase “The gunslinger to webslinger combo!”, or something of that sort.

I won’t feel Favre has retired until he doesn’t show up for the NO Saints game… Until than, all we can sit and do is wait.. And if we sit & wait, it’ll be a very long summer..

by Deek on May 14, 2010 8:49 AM CDT reply actions  

It doesn’t matter what Bears’ fans think

Yeah, screw those guys!

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on May 14, 2010 8:51 AM CDT reply actions  

I would screw the girls thank you

The guys can screw themselves.

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on May 14, 2010 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

R u

Referring to the cheerleaders??

haha

by Deek on May 14, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

heh?

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on May 14, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Favre in 2010

With Favre still having one year left on his contract, I have to agree with Christopher Gates(Gonzo), as Vikings fans, no one seems too worried. I say, until we hear differently, he is a Viking!

Worst case scenario, he has a freak riding mower accident this summer leaving him unable to throw football lasers for touchdowns! That has a low probability though.

This is my first comment on the site, so I tried to have a little fun. Been a reader of the site for some time.

by NDRegalVike on May 14, 2010 10:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Welcome!!!

And the ND part of your name mean North Dakota?

Remember folks, Favre could just never make a decision at all and show up for training camp… How SHOCKED! would we all be than???

I think most of us would probably crap ourselves.. haha

But if he did do something crazy like that, I really hope he just sort of lays back and takes it easy throughout camp the whole time.

by Deek on May 14, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Colin Cowherd wants Favre back

Just listening to ESPN radio. It’s good to hear something positive out of one of those guy’s mouths, even though it was self serving. Cowherd wants him back because more people listen and ratings go up. The Favre drama is good for broadcasting. You can’t argue with that.

by JethroBoViking on May 14, 2010 10:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Farve and Media

Farve is Media – all the sports experts know he brings ratings. the Networks love this guy adn made hundereds of millions of dollars last year with the viewership adn advertising sales they get. Farve knows this adn he waits to see if he comes back probably has to do with contract negotiations, if he is up in the air on “retirement” gives him allowances, he is just working the system and why not 20 years in a violent game and still ticking…

by Hornedhelm on May 14, 2010 11:20 AM CDT reply actions  

And no mention of the 25,000 Brett & Deanna donated to the Miracle Network !!!!

Has any of you been over to check out the enemy at Achme Packing Company ? Boy they love them some Goth !!!! If the actual team is as deflated by the potential return of Brett as the Bloggers over there than chalk up an easy two . When I asked what will it take to be competitive with the Elite Eight teams in the playoffs they fell apart . The best reply deflected by siting their Defense as needing a few playmakeers to get there . What no mention of the o-line , RB, or the guy who won back-to-back playoff games before he sailed off to New York . LOL

by gothicpurple on May 14, 2010 11:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Webb

Just read that Vikes will give Webb a shot at QB as well as receiver. Should be interesting, If he is as althetic as they say and has at least a working brain unlike TJack then he may develope into a decent NFL QB

by Hornedhelm on May 14, 2010 12:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah just read that too

came here to see what discussion there was, and was surprised to find none yet.

In any case, I think it’s safe to say at this point that those that those who groaned when Webb’s name was called at the draft, are probably now singing a different toon, intrigued at getting a possible “X factor” player (or, at the very least, a talented special teams player?) for such a low pick.

by puddnhead on May 14, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would hope they aren't singing a different toon yet

because we haven’t even see him throw. And pre-season doesn’t really mean much, because, as I recall, Jackson had an amazing pre-season his rookie year.

by Frost on May 14, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jackson was not picked in the same round as TJ

You should have very different expectations for picks in 2nd and 7th round, otherwise you’re comparing apples & oranges.

by puddnhead on May 19, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rental QB

Why would anyone on this site care whether the rental gets returned or not.

by Heech on May 14, 2010 12:10 PM CDT reply actions  

heech i dont like that sign you have u best take it down or i will #4 is a legend u must b a troll cause ur to stupid to know u dont belong on this site so get the f out

by cali viking on May 14, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

So I used to go by MilCardFan, but I was able to change my screen name. Because I'm kind of a big deal. People know me. Yeah.

by Ted Glover on May 14, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Correct story...
they’ll be a damn good football team with or without Brett Favre

and I agree with it all ,except this. ‘Damn good football teams’ make/go deep into the playoffs. Without Favre, that becomes a decidedly grey area IMO.

by jshep on May 15, 2010 5:12 AM CDT reply actions  

i have been saying this in so many posts

Ed Werder on the cast of BSPN on ice, are a bunch money hungry hacks

by muffin man on May 15, 2010 10:40 AM CDT reply actions  

I dunno

I thought Werder was blowing smoke when he reported that T.O. business a couple year ago. But it turns out that he hit that nail on the head, so I guess that I kind of expect him to be somewhat accurate now. As opposed to Schefter who used to hit nails on the head and now is messing up.

by Frost on May 15, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

when you do as much "reporting"

these guys do, eventually you will get one right, they are a lions playoff win. I kid, they will be a good team this year.

by muffin man on May 15, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

ditto.

been saying the same thing for years, mr. gates. and will not add to what you’ve already stated. SKOL FAVRE! SKOL VIKINGS!

by belairjeff on May 15, 2010 10:49 AM CDT reply actions  

I completely agree with you here.

Rich Eisen on the NFL network all but rolls his eyes and acts like he HAS to do this segment called “Favre watch” on his show. As if anyone—even the most hardcore Viking fan and Favre supporter—is sitting at home on the edge of their seat wondering if Favre will be announcing on April 30 or May 15 that he will definitely play this season.

If the media are so tired of hearing about him they may try the “shut up about it” method.

by Bodysuit Man on May 15, 2010 2:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I have been say this time and time again

The only people sick and tired of waiting for Favre are the boneheads who keep reporting on it and reading the stories. And as for Favre needing or wanting this attention, show me where your proof is. Because he wants to be wanted? Heck everyone wants to be wanted. That is human nature. Wouldn’t you want your wife/girlfriend or your boss to want you? So your opinion is just that, an opinion. I grew up watching Favre play ever since he came to the Packers and that man did so much for the Packers. He restructured his contract time and time again, he played hurt(he came in after receiving a concussion and threw a laser for a TD just one play after getting said concussion. Also don’t forget the beating he took against NO but still came back in and played.)has donated more money than what we will ever earn in a lifetime and you have the gall to say he brings this attention upon himself? If he was such a media whore, he would do as many commercials as Manning does(oh yeah, he has another one). He has done commercials for Wrangler, that heartburn medicine, and Sears. Wow those are attention getting commercials. And as I have stated before as well, the media started in on the whole are you going to retire, are you not going to retire bit even before Rodgers was drafted. Not once did Favre initiate the topic. And as for retiring, unretiring you truly have no clue. He retired from the Packers after being forced to retire. He was not ready. That was his reason for crying. Watch that press conference again. He then retired from the Jets so that the Jets would not get hit with the losing first round draft picks. That was planned from the beginning. The Jets knew it, Favre knew it, heck even Green Bay knew it. The Packers sent him off to the Jets just to spite him. He would have been with the Vikings for 2 full seasons now had the Packers not screwed around. So you trolls who think you know the scoop better come back with something a little stronger than he is just a diva or whatever you are calling it now. And yes, he has earned the right to take some time to think about it. Don’t bring up the real world because the NFL is not the real world. Supply and demand. Favre has the supplies and there sure seems to be enough demand judging by all the comments on the stories and blogs written about the “Decision”. So back off.

by SeanInEauClaireWi on May 15, 2010 11:37 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

HELL YEA THEY NEED TO BACK OFF GREAT POST S E C W

by cali viking on May 16, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha so are we “trolls” not allowed to have an opinion on him? You make it sound as if your opinion/perception of him is just how it is.

I wouldn’t disagree that the media plays a large part in all the attention he gets but to me it has always seemed that Favre didn’t mind it.

The Packers forced him to retire? And that was his reason for crying? That’s quite a bit of speculating wouldn’t you say?

I’m not sure if they sent him off to the Jets to “spite” him. Probably more so just because their not stupid..All the Vikings needed was a Qb, it wasn’t like it was some big secret. I’m sure anyone and everyone on the Packers staff was able to realize that if Favre went to the Vikings it could make them a damn good team. Obviously they weren’t going to let that happen..You said it yourself, the NFL is not the real world. It’s a business, and trying to prevent one of your rivals teams from becoming a very good one makes sense to me.

Don’t get me wrong though, I don’t think sending him off to the Jets was a very classy thing to do. It was a shady thing to do, especially because Favre and the Bucs had both expressed interest in one another. Now did the Packers staff decide not to send him there because they didn’t get the deal they wanted in return? Did they not send him there because they were in the NFC and scheduled to play the Bucs that year? Or did they just send him there because they didn’t want him to be able to play in a place where he really wanted to play? I’m sure I can already guess what scenario you think took place. For me, I’m not really sure. I can’t imagine that the Jets offer for Favre was much greater then the Bucs but who knows. I guess I’d say it had to do with the last two scenarios.

Who will ever really know though? Just depends whose side you want to buy into.

by packallday555 on May 17, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

There are trolls and there are people who actually contribute to a great argument

I was referring to the trolls who pop up and then never hear from then again until they have more BS to spew. I think I have seen you on here enough that the word troll can’t be thrust upon you lol. This whole “we can’t send him to an opponent we play against this year or division rival” crap is way overplayed. The fact is, if Favre was done, then what harm was there? Don’t send him to the Vikings? They still won the division without Favre as he was toiling in NY. So this fear of having to play him is just crap. I also am not saying that my opinion is gospel. My point that I was trying to make that Favre haters forget what the man did for the organization. People come on here and try to argue but they forget that there are Favre fans who were Packer fans at one point of time that frequent this site. We were around through the Favre years. Alot of you bring up “Favre put us through this will he wont he” crap and as I stated earlier, blame that on the media. Favre never initiated the retirement talk. It gets so sickening to hear Packer fans (and other people who say they are fans but are really not) use this BS excuse time and time again. IS this truly the only thing you have on the man? Thats pretty pathetic if the only mud you can sling consists of that.(again referring to pack fans who don’t have a clue). What they forget is you we never had to worry about who the quarterback was going to be week after week. You never had to say to yourself, oh man, it’s over, we lost. We always knew we were in it. So Packallday, I respect your opinion and was mainly referring to the people that makes everyone sick and tired of people who continue to troll.

by SeanInEauClaireWi on May 18, 2010 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

That’s fair enough. I agree to a degree that the whole not wanting to send him to a team that the Packers had to play is crap. But like you know, Favre was/is an icon to many in WI. Maybe the organization figured seeing him playing for another team against the Packers would be really hard on people. Though, that’s kind of a weak argument cause regardless of whether or not the Packers had to face him, he still is on another team.

I think not sending him to the Vikings was fine though. Yes, they won the division in 2008 but I think it’s obvious had the Packers not had so many key guys injured we would have given them a better race.

I don’t know, we’ve all beaten this horse dead many times before. I guess I just don’t agree that Favre was forced to retire or anything. He retired, and was then told right after that the Packers were moving on. My problem with him was to me, he acted like a spoiled little girl when he realized that the Packers really were telling him the truth. I realize you probably don’t agree, and that’s fine, it’s just my opinion.

I don’t want to start a whole big debate up on thos topic, or anything. I respect your opinion as well Sean.

On a side note, do you happen to go to UWEC? My sister goes there.

by packallday555 on May 18, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

As I respect yours...

 I go to UW-Stout. UW-EC is more a liberal arts so their Computer Science department lags pretty far behind compared to Stout’s.But EC is a really good school for everything not including that doesn’t include Technology related majors.

by SeanInEauClaireWi on May 18, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Packers telling the truth?

When? WTF are you talking about? Some people believe all kinds of crazy shit. They can have an opinion. That doesn’t mean they’re stupid or ignorant or mentally ill.

by Salty on May 20, 2010 6:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

people who repeat lies and go on other boards to stir people up are trolls.

by Salty on May 20, 2010 6:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Favre is as Iconic as Elvis ever was!

I loved Elvis, and I sure in the heck love the Greatest QB in NFL History!

I also love the anticipation! I love the drama! More Favre talk the better!

Favre = Passion for the Game = The Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!

Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLIV, Guaranteed!

I will witness it all in person, starting in New Orleans! Hot Diggity Dog!

Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History!

Brett Favre will be back in 2010, 100% Guaranteed!

by REVENGE4FAVRE on May 16, 2010 3:40 PM CDT reply actions  

+4=REVENGE preach on R4F

by cali viking on May 16, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

obsessed

The only “drama” is created by those that are endlessly and hopelessly obsessed…
So, why are you writing about him, then? :-)

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The glass is more than half-full.

by NorthStarr on May 16, 2010 5:27 PM CDT reply actions  

forgot the block quote thing
The only "drama" is created by those that are endlessly and hopelessly obsessed…

So, why are you writing about him, then? :-)

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The glass is more than half-full.

by NorthStarr on May 16, 2010 5:28 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm writing about the coverage he receives

Watching the watchmen, as it were.

I already know the guy is coming back, and I’m not obsessing over it either way.

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by Christopher Gates on May 16, 2010 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

GPWM, Chris

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by NorthStarr on May 17, 2010 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

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