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Chester Taylor was an invaluable part of the Minnesota offense in the four years he spent in purple and gold, and it was sad to see him move on, particularly to a team like the Chicago Bears (where he's probably the most talented player on that offense).  The Vikings were expected to draft someone to try to fill Taylor's shoes, but nobody expected the Vikings to select Toby Gerhart.

The running back that should have won the 2009 Heisman Trophy was considered to be a second-round prospect, but few expected the Vikings to select a running back that early, citing their needs at defensive back and along the offensive line as greater priorities.  However, the Vikings made a trade up to get Gerhart, and add a guy who ran for 1,871 yards and 27 touchdowns as a senior for the Stanford Cardinal.  Is Gerhart the replacement for Chester Taylor that the Vikings are looking for?

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Well, in order to answer that question, we have to take into consideration the sort of running back each player is.  Gerhart is a very powerful runner, similar to our own Adrian Peterson.  At 6'1" and 235 pounds, Gerhart is a load to bring down, and is just shifty enough to occasionally make people miss.  Taylor, on the other hand, is much smaller at 5'11" and 215 pounds.  Taylor obviously doesn't possess Gerhart's power, but he is much quicker and relies more on making people miss.

The other part of Taylor's game that was invaluable to the Vikings was his ability to catch the ball out of the backfield.  In each season he was in Minnesota, Taylor averaged 40 receptions a year, and had an uncanny knack for converting third downs on receptions out of the backfield.  Gerhart, on the other hand, had 39 receptions in his entire four-year Stanford career, and has never caught a touchdown pass (though he did average about 14 yards/reception as a senior).  However, I don't think that's really an indicator of Gerhart's ability to catch the football. . .after all, he averaged 5.5 yards a carry in 2009, and simply wasn't called on by coach Jim Harbaugh to catch the ball very often.  The scouting reports on Gerhart say he has good hands, and they'll certainly get put to use in Brad Childress' offense.

Gerhart isn't so much a change of pace from Adrian Peterson as he is a means for the Vikings offense to continue pounding opponents, whether it's to open up the play-action passing game or to preserve a lead at the end of football games.  If the Vikings want a change of pace type of back, they appear to have a great deal of confidence in third-year running back Albert Young, who got a little bit of burn at the end of last year and is much closer to Chester Taylor's skill set than Toby Gerhart is.  But if Adrian Peterson needs a bit of a rest or. . .heaven forbid. . .continues his propensity for putting the football on the ground, the Vikings should be able to plug Gerhart in and not have to change too much of the offense.  Obviously Gerhart doesn't have Peterson's top end speed or shiftiness, but he might be even more powerful. . .definitely not the kind of thing a defense that's spent a significant amount of time chasing Adrian Peterson is going to want to see.

Yes, Chester Taylor might be missed by the Minnesota offense as well as Vikings fans, but I have a feeling that that's going to be a temporary thing at best.  Once Toby Gerhart feels comfortable in the offense and gets an opportunity to really showcase his skills, he has the talent to make people forget ol' #29 in short order.

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Good take

I think that Gerhart is definitely a great college RB. I myself will wait to see it on the NFL level before I can give an educated opinion on how he may eventually fare.

I do think though that the catching the ball part is not what is the difference between Toby & Chester. AP caught more passes last year. So I think that Toby will also be able to catch passes as well.

The thing that made Chester different and where he gets no respect is his ability to get open on 3rd downs and then catch the ball. He always found a way to put a move on the LB to get himself open by a couple of steps to catch the pass. And then he has the ability to make people miss and pick up a first down. He also had a particular way of setting up screens that was admirable.

These are the areas of Chester’s game that AP & Toby will have to replace IMO. I am sure that taking handoffs out of the backfield may not be a problem for Toby. It is yet to be seen if he can run behind our line because he definitely will need to make people miss quite often as the Vikings were at the bottom of the league in runs that produced negative yardage last year.

I agree that Toby will be different than Chester and I think that he will fit in differently than Chester. I believe that AP will be on the field on 3rd downs and he will take over most of Chester’s role while Toby will provide some 1st & 2nd down relief for AP most of the time.

I think that Chester deserves more credit for what he did and can do and that Toby is a totally different back. We’ll see what he can do in the NFL.

by MarkSP18 on Jun 12, 2010 8:21 PM CDT reply actions  

The X-Factor
I myself will wait to see it on the NFL level before I can give an educated opinion on how he may eventually fare.

Agreed. I would love to see film on how Gerhart looks this off-season, and can’t wait to see him actually hit the turf running this preseason. But until I see him do something, I think it’s too early to do more than speculate.

I do think though that the catching the ball part is not what is the difference between Toby & Chester. AP caught more passes last year. So I think that Toby will also be able to catch passes as well.

If A=B and B=C, then C=A? AP’s performance and CT’s performance has nothing to do with how TG might perform….

Chester Taylor was a great RB for the Vikings, and I’ll always remember him fondly, even as I hope he fails miserably with the Bears :)

I think that one of the greatest advantages that Gerhart brings to the Vikings is that opponents don’t know what to expect with him. He could be used in any number of different ways and until they see what his performance window actually is, they just don’t know and they can’t effectively plan and scheme for it. It gives the Vikings an X-Factor that they wouldn’t have with CT still in the backfield.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Jun 14, 2010 7:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Looks like he could be a great power back

Not sure about his catch-and-run ability (I admit I don’t watch college football…hate it.), but I think that if he can do that well enough, we have no reason to be worried. At the very least, Gerhart should be a good #2 back that will help carry the load with AP.

I wanna see how Albert Young does as well…

I'm still a Minnesotan at heart...

by urluckyday on Jun 12, 2010 8:37 PM CDT reply actions  

He'll be better than Taylor

Just watch. AP is already considered a ‘power back’, despite his speed and great moves. Wait and see how Gerhart sets up AP for even bigger games. He’ll beat up on defenses in a way Taylor never could, then AP will come in a run right past them. As for his receiving skills, the guy was a freakin’ star outfielder for the Stanford baseball team. I’m pretty sure he can catch just fine. They just didn’t use him that way on the football team. Last, Taylor was a little overrated last year. He only averaged 3.6 yards per carry, with 6 carries and 3 catches per game. It’s not like they’re replacing a guy who put up a hundred combined yards a game last year. I’m thrilled they picked Gerhart, and I’m confident more fans will be praising the selection after he’s gotten a few games under his belt.

by rovibe on Jun 12, 2010 9:10 PM CDT reply actions  

My take on our RBs

Gerhart is primarily a power back with good speed and good hands so he will spell AD when he needs a rest and get some opportunities on third and short/medium. AD as we all know has power, speed, and agility but is still developing as a receiver so his role will basically be the same as before but he’ll get some more receiving opportunities.

The one phase of the game that Chester was best at was the third and long passing game. I think this role will be partly filled by either Reynaud or Young with Peterson getting some more opportunities. While I think Young may be a better overall RB than Reynaud, I believe Darius has the skill set to excel in the third and long pass-catching role. I picture Reynaud playing a role similar to that of Mewelde Moore in Peterson’s first year.

by CanadianViking on Jun 12, 2010 10:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Never Forget

true Purple and Gold fans never forget, we simply have a delay in recall. That comes with age and heart break. I don’t think Gehart is a replacement for Taylor. We still have Percy and Tahi who are very good and good respectively at receiving. Expect to see more Harvin and Tahi on 3rd down for short pass plays. Gehart will wear teams down in the 4th quarter and spell AP in the 2nd and 3rd. I harkin back to the days of Smith and Hoard…………. speed and power, one to score and one to wear down once we had a lead. I would prefer to see more Ian Johnson, I do believe he is a more productive RB than Albert Young.
Never forget the those you brought this team great plays.

Sportz70

by Sportz70 on Jun 12, 2010 10:55 PM CDT reply actions  

AP will take over

I believe that AP will up his game to a level where we all say "did you just see that $h!/?) the fumble problems will be gone and Ap will carry us. We’ll only need about 7 or 8 carries a game and maybe 1 reception per game by any other RB on our roster. I like Harvin too. He will for sure have a bigger role in the offense as long as he can keep those migranes in check. Looking forward to the Year Of The Vikes!!!!

by BigBMitch on Jun 13, 2010 12:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Great post Gonzo. Once Taylor left in free agency, it was destined for a big change in how the RB depth was made up. Taylor’s true value wasn’t just on 3rd downs, but that if Peterson were to, (God forbid) go down, he was a more than capable back up.

Peterson is going to step up his role in the offense with Taylor’s departure. His pass protection is improving and he showed he can be relied on more in the passing game. I would expect him to be in on more 3rd downs than previous years, but that might be just as often a combination of Gerhart/Young/Reynaud.
If anything should happen to Peterson, in the absence of a breakout season from one of the other RBs, a group will need to be able to work together to do everything a #1 running back does. One part bulldozing threat to eat up yards and one part change of pace with a dash of pass game presence. Reynaud, Young, and the Johnson’s will battle for the shifty, change of pace back. With Reynaud’s experience at wide receiver, I’d say he has the inside track for the 3rd RB position. Gerhart can be the missing battering ram with the potential to be more and is most likely taking the 2nd RB position. The battle for the back up RB is going to be a big one in camp.

by Josh_D on Jun 13, 2010 1:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Year Of The Vikes!!! ... i like it

will be a totally new purple offense in twenty-ten … protect #4 with the best run game in the business … peterson and gerhart are gonna pound the rock and the o-line will crush the collective will of opponents … then #4 will raise up and flex the best passin attack in the NFL (last year was just a warm-up) … then turn lose the “A.W.W.E.some4some” the most under-rated backers in the NFL and the most improved secondary (health / experience & youth) … d-cordinators nightmare … and maybe the most fun of all will be watchin the special teams be very very special … “Year Of The Vikes”!!!

MGR4FUN

by MGR4FUN on Jun 13, 2010 5:37 AM CDT reply actions  

"Year Of The Vikes!!""

Yooper…The year of the Vikes is on the Chinese calendar right between the year of the rat and year of the dog…seriously, check it out dude!….. there was a year of the Lion at one point in history but the Chinese wisely have removed it….. Seriously, a Lions fan here talking smack?

"Somewhere in Minnesota, a child becomes a Vikings fan and wonders if they will win a Super Bowl in their lifetime"

by Skol!dTimer on Jun 13, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey Yooper how is it that you guys draft in the top ten for a decade and still can't win.

At least the Vikes are contenders. The Lions have sucked for years. The last pick we had in the top ten was Adrian Peterson. Last years pick Percy Harvin was offense rookie of the year. If the Lions were as smart as the Vikes they would have won this division a few times since Barry Saunders.

by iowaron on Jun 13, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hey Yooper

Go crawl back under whatever rock u crawled out from !!.. Vikings had 2 rookie offensive lineman last year and will be better this year, Williams Wall will not drop. Pat is in his last year and did not play full time last year..Vikings rotate several def lineman in and out…And YES, Favre will have another great yr…just sit back and drive the great offense Vikings have …But U are a troll and have nothing better else to do but come on our site and talk trash…Go away troll !!!

by WVVikings on Jun 13, 2010 2:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Toby's skill set doesn't have any comparisons to Chester & he will prove to be a better athlete .

There won’t be a Chester/Toby comparison . Gerhart is a power back . Harvin was the kind of player that had nobody to compare too . Toby will have a 3rddown punch in the mouth role . Not a third down great route runner . Tahi and Young are expendable . AP will control between the 20’s and Toby will carry in the high traffic areas near the end zones . Adrian will balance in the pass/run offense . Fantacy guys will like that .

by gothicpurple on Jun 13, 2010 2:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow I think we actually agree on something…mark THAT on the calendar. You are right, their skill sets are totally different. Toby might be the kind of guy they bring in when nerves are high about APs ballcarrying. Those tough situations where they need some really tough yards. He can’t be an exclusive 3DB though…but does that mean AP stays in on 3rd downs now or is it some kind of threeway with AP, Gerhart, and Percy?

by TrevorR on Jun 14, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think AP will be the Primary 3rd-down back.

I think Gerhart will get his carries on 1st and 2nd down. He doesn’t have enough experience to be the 3rd down guy yet.
Harvin will most likely be playing the #3-WR on 3rd downs….unless it’s 3rd & short. Then Chilly will send in the Tahi/Dugan package, and that will ultimately result with a punt from Kluwe :)

by chaosg on Jun 14, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

By drafting a QB with a skill set that is more in line with the feature back, the ability to pull that feature back on 1st and 2nd downs and keep the opposing defense honest to the power running game is great. Plus, you have the option of putting gerhart in on 1st down, then putting the feature back in on 2nd and (hopefully) 3rd and short where the defense will not be able to play the pass over the run and vice versa. Should you get the 1st down on the prior 2nd down, your feature back is essentially there for you on the 1st down. The offense remains more streamlined. As long as you have a 3rd string back who’s skill set is completely different than the first two, you can throw him in occasionally as a change up pitch.

We are the vikings.......resistance is futile.

by Hoss-Drone on Jun 13, 2010 3:35 PM CDT reply actions  

*RB ….. good lord self.

We are the vikings.......resistance is futile.

by Hoss-Drone on Jun 13, 2010 3:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Change of pace

Harvin will be the chg of pace back..IF Berrian cant stay healthy and we are not forced to have Harvin play wr all time

by WVVikings on Jun 13, 2010 5:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Gerhart had better be at least as good as CT

Otherwise, it was a waste to move up to grab Gerhart in the 2nd round with backs like Ben Tate and potential QBs of the future still on the board.

by KC Viking on Jun 13, 2010 6:20 PM CDT reply actions  

This situation sounds TOOO Famialr...

Hmm, anybody remember Bobby Wade?

Favre + 3 = ❼ = Vikings= 2009-2010 NFL Champions= New Stadium=Greatest Fans and Team!

by UnBannedVikingholic on Jun 13, 2010 6:57 PM CDT reply actions  

mr webb is the only qb of the future that was left after sam

those other sexier qb picks would not hav improved the vikings and may not hav even made the team …

MGR4FUN

by MGR4FUN on Jun 13, 2010 9:58 PM CDT reply actions  

I’m not sure I really understand what your thesis is here Gonzo, but if it is that what Gerhart brings to the offense will make up for — or, more than make up for, based upon you last paragraph — the skills of Chester: I disagree. That change of pace aspect (especially receiving skills) is not so minor that they will be made up for by pure running skills in a #2 back tht duplicate our #1 back, no matter how good.

by puddnhead on Jun 14, 2010 7:41 AM CDT reply actions  

I think we're missing something else that Chester brought to the team

And that is protecting the QB. He was a very good back at picking up blitzes. This is a fairly complex skill set and most rooking running backs don’t have it when they get into the NFL. I know that Toby was supposed to be good at this in college but yet again it will be interesting to see if he can make this pan out in the NFL. I don’t see Harvin being brought back for passing downs, I really don’t see Young getting any time.

You all remember Tice and his Randy ratio right? Well I’m pretty sure if you had half a brain as a coach you’d want the same kind of ratio for AD. This means that for every person touching the ball in the back field who isn’t AD, your cutting into that ratio. How often did Chester really run the ball? I think Toby will be a fine inclusion to the Vikes, but I don’t think he’ll be touching the ball as much as many of you think.

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Jun 14, 2010 7:47 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

+1 yeah, I should have mentioned that in my post above.

by puddnhead on Jun 14, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

I could see him being used a lot as a pass protector

He can do things like double up Julius Peppers. That also works well for swing passes. Ahman Green is basically a power back and Favre winged it to him plenty. The thing that CT did were those complicated screens where he weaved through the line.

by Salty on Jun 14, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Running Game

This year opponents get a choice between a sledge hammer or a battering ram. Defenders will be worn down by raw power. When they are tired and brace for impact both AP and Toby have the speed and agility to leave them grasping for air. With a healthy more experienced Offensive Line I expect a devastating run game.

by IndyVikefan on Jun 14, 2010 8:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Why am I reminded of #49

Ed Marinaro was drafted in the 2nd round and was the heisman runner-up. Now I think Toby is going to be much better than Ed not that Ed was bad but the similarities of their backgrounds are way to close for comfort.

by SouthernNorseman on Jun 14, 2010 3:49 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Big Ed

Wow, now there’s a blast from the past!

I think he was very underrated because most of what he did was block for Foreman and Tark, but I totally get your point. Good parallel!

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!

by DCPurple on Jun 15, 2010 7:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey Trevor

We Vike fans get nervous every time a Pack RB gets 1800yards/18 TD’s . Oh wait , how long has it been since any Pack back completed such a feat ? How long since the Pack’s 2nd back was a heisman candidate ? Eons huh !!!!!

by gothicpurple on Jun 14, 2010 5:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Poor Grant

No love huh?

Didn’t he have an awesome game against the Bears?

But than again, weren’t the Bears like one of the worst in the league against the run?

But, with that being said, didn’t Ap barely crack over a 100 in one game or slightly under and not so great the other?

Ah well, Packers are like the Colts/Chargers in my opinion… More of a passing team.

by Deek on Jun 16, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha this is just stupid. We’re like a 60-40 pass to run team! Though I don’t like Grant much, he is fine for what we try to do with our running game. This again, illustrates that you really don’t have a whole lot of knowledge about the Packers.

by packallday555 on Jun 16, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can he block like Chester?

My concern is not as much if he can catch out of the backfield, or pound the ball, but how can he (or any of the possible Chester replacements) fill in the backfield blocking role that Chester was so good at. Definitely one of the under-appreciated parts of his game and an area he helped AP develop over the last few years. Most rookies RBs have a hard time with blocking, especially w/ blitz pick ups and with an aging Favre. . . .

by #93Nation on Jun 15, 2010 6:47 PM CDT reply actions  

He has always been a great blocker

That was one of the key points in drafting this young beast of a man. We knew going into this draft we needed someone who could protect Favre out of the backfield and at 6’1" 230lbs he is NFL ready to pick up blitzes, and smart to boot.

by nmvikesfan on Jun 16, 2010 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why ????

Why can’t you offer a serious rebuttal . You are one of but a few Pack fans that shows a little fire . So , feel free to express your real views . If Grant got 1800/18 TD’s would you fear 10 lost balls in 2 years . Jennings maybe but not Grant because of the nature of the position . I know you are used to Achme’s lame rules about not referrencing your team on our site but …… Go ahead we don’t get squimish like over there . Back to Back Division Championships with two different QB’s gives us more freedom to express how we really feel .
    Do you thng Rice doesn’t deserve all the hype with only 80+ catches . Maybe Shiancoe’s 10 TD’s weren’t impressive . See I stay away from the topics that make you pee yourselk and ask you to answer the baby ones . Endulge me . I don’t want Einstein’s reply . Only Trevor who will answer for his comments after we sweep . Say we don’t sweep ya . That means the Saints will get home field . Oh wait I implied your team won’t win a playoff game in three straight years . Poor Aaron ?? Green Bay is seen as a danderous spoiler team and nothing more . We want a calm calculated win . That is all . No chest bumps or I told you so’s . That is all your team has become after the loss of your icon .
   In reference to this article . Away and on grass are where Brett has disappointed me the most . This hard nosed , highly talented and soft hands back out of Stanford was brought in for this reason only . Not to help AP or replace Chester . 5-3 on the road means playoffs . GB had the same dilema . Which Heisman candidaate powerback did you go and get to get to the playoffs ???? LOL

by gothicpurple on Jun 16, 2010 12:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Wait

ACME members can’t come over here and talk Packers football?
That’s actually a rule? Does the Daily Norseman have such rules?

Don’t tell me I got to go read & review a rules handbook now.

by Deek on Jun 16, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

He probably didn’t say much more then LAME because your comment was a stupid one. Your team has based your offense on the running game. You had a bunch of big OL in McKinnie, Hutch, and Birk, and then drafted AP. I would hope your running game would be a strong suit. Us, on the other hand, have set up our offense around the pass. We run the zone blocking scheme, and have generally drafted smaller, quicker OL, though that trend has slowly started to change thses last few years. Favre amped up your passing game but I’m awfully excited to see how it does after he’s gone. Can you tell me what Jackson’s best stat line was before Favre?

As for Rice and Shank, their talented. I still think Favre went a long way in making Rice what he was but again that’s something we’ll have to wait and see after he’s gone. Shank is pretty good. Really good red zone option, and a solid guy in between the 20’s.

by packallday555 on Jun 16, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Basically, all we need from our running game is 1,100-1,300 yards a year, and Grant has consistently done that for us. Also keep in mind, TT traded a 5th rounder for Grant. Though he hasn’t been a super star by any means, he’s been a top 15 Rb for sure. That’s a pretty good exchange for a 5th rounder wouldn’t ya say?

by packallday555 on Jun 16, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Get Smart

I think you are all overlooking the fact the Gerhart attended Stanford as well as being an amazing athlete. He will be able to adapt his game the way he is needed because he has superior intelligence…perfect for learning how to block blitzes in the NFL. We’ll have to wait and see, but I bet he picks up on the game better than most. I see big things for this man.

by purpleincolorado on Jun 16, 2010 11:08 PM CDT reply actions  

It’s not all about intelligence though. It’s more so about instincts, and having the ability to react quick. If he is football smart, which is probably a pretty safe assumption then yeah, he’ll probably adapt quicker to blocking in the NFL. It’s still one of those things that normally takes a bit of time to adjust too though.

by packallday555 on Jun 18, 2010 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

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