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Ted Thompson Seems To Have Issues With Telling The Truth

We've talked ad nauseum about the circumstances that led Brett Favre to the Minnesota Vikings via the New York Jets.  We've detailed the fact. . .and, at this point, it's hard to believe that it's anything but a fact. . .that Green Bay Packers general manager Ted Thompson fabricated tampering charges against the Minnesota Vikings to attempt to distract everybody from exactly how badly he had screwed up the entire Favre situation.  (Charges that were completely dismissed, most likely due to the complete absurdity of the charges in the first place.)


Now it turns out that Thompson might not have even been straight with Favre about where he was getting traded to.  According to our friends over at the National Football Post, Favre tells of the following exchange between himself and Packers brass in an interview that will be published in Men's Journal magazine in the near future.

"There was just silence. I said, 'Well, what are we gonna do?'" Favre recalled from the meeting when he announced he was coming out of retirement. "They made it pretty clear I wasn't going to play there, and I said, 'How about the Vikings or even the Lions?' I wanted to stay in the same division. They said that wasn't going to happen, but maybe Tampa.

"I said, 'Fine, trade me to Tampa. I'll whip your asses in week four.' Maybe that was a mistake. I'm flying back to Hattiesburg thinking I'm going to the Bucs, and I get off the plane and (agent) Bus (Cook) tells me I've been traded to the Jets. I said, 'Bull,' but they were smart; they released the news so I'd look like an ass if I backed out."

So, to me, it sounds like either a) the Packers told Favre that they were trading him to Tampa, and then turned around and dealt him to the Jets after he had left Green Bay for Mississippi, b) they told Favre they were still "working" on a trade, said trade took place while Favre was en route to Mississippi and the Packers just didn't feel the need to tell Favre themselves, or c) the Packers had already dealt Favre to the Jets prior to telling him he was going to Tampa and just didn't have the testicular fortitude to tell him.

Whichever it is, it's pretty pathetic and sad.

Then again, when it comes to Tamperin' Ted's Travellin' Salvation Show, we should probably learn to temper our expectations a bit.  Honestly, is there anything that's beneath this guy?  He's lied to the league about the Minnesota Vikings tampering with Favre, he's lied to Favre about where he was getting traded to. . .why in the blue hell would anybody believe anything this guy says about anything?

But I guess we should thank Ted for this. . .after all, had he stayed true to his word and dealt Favre to Tampa, the odds are pretty good that he wouldn't have made his way to Minnesota in 2009.  He would have been playing for a team that he had asked to be traded to, playing for a coach that he likes (Jon Gruden) as opposed to a schmuck that he really had no respect for from the beginning (Eric Mangini), and who knows what could have resulted from that?

I, personally, am quite thankful for Ted Thompson's dishonesty.  It seems to have worked out for the best for Minnesota thus far.

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Exactly.

This sounds like a bunch of unfortunate mud slinging. Let’s stay on the high road.

by dkerfoot on Jul 19, 2010 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I guess it comes down to who you listen to...

you are going to believe everything your QB tells you because you like him and want to believe him. I don’t blame you…I would believe my player over the GM for the opposition too so I guess I can’t fault you. But there are two sides to every story.

Anyway, I didn’t see in that article where they told him the trade to the Bucs was a done deal…he said maybe the Bucs. IN the end, the Jets won out and that is where he went. Unfortunately for Brett he doesn’t get a say in where he is going. He showed by his quote ("I said, ‘Fine, trade me to Tampa. I’ll whip your asses in week four.‘) that things were not exactly friendly in the room so it shouldn’t be too surprising that they weren’t going out of their way to accommodate him.

I remember that according to all the reports, Tampa was right in it until the end. I remember Gruden saying that he thought he was going to get Favre and then the Jets swooped in. Maybe Favre pointing out the week 4 matchup changed things. I am sure the last thing they wanted to see was Favre coming back four weeks into the season. Sending him to the Jets allowed them to not have to worry about seeing him face the team for at least 2 seasons.

Just think of how things would have changed though if that trade had happened (Favre to Bucs). Gruden is probably still the coach, not on MNF. The Bucs maybe don’t fleece the team and instead are going after players instead of rebuilding. Favre is still a Buc. Vikings are still flailing with TJack or Sage at QB. Its a different league if things happened differently.

by TrevorR on Jul 15, 2010 9:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Good point...

Things were already acrimonious, so why expect Thompson to accept any less than the best offer he could get? Afterward it is only human nature for each man to paint himself in the most positive light, so it’s perfectly understandable that they have different versions.

I do believe Favre, but hell, I might have played it the same way Thompson did. What is so abhorable about that?

by Jshore on Jul 15, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah...

ultimately it was a tough situation. I don’t think Thompson cares about being the villan…and I am sure the board was in support or he would have kept Favre around. He wouldn’t have risked his job to dump Favre so this was a decision the team must have been behind.

Ultimately it was really the only way to go for a guy who is in charge of the long term future of the team. If Favre comes back after they gave Rodgers the starting job, we could have kissed Rodgers good bye…maybe then he’s a Viking which would make me even more upset now that I’ve seen how good he is!!! I’d rather see Favre give you guys a couple really good years than watch Rodgers give you 10 or so years while we suffer with no QB of the future!

by TrevorR on Jul 16, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

well who really knows

its just as possible brett wants to look good in this? he has just as much motivation for lying. and to be honest, i think brett was an a## in this situation too. I thought i heard they asked him if he was coming back before the draft, extending one last chance. He said no, and they proceeded to draft in his absence, taking two qbs if im not mistaken.

to me, thats not cool to then turn around and ask for open arms. i do not care if he wanted to miss camp, if your making that money, suck it up, or be honest, dont jerk around a team, fans, and front office and expect to get good treatment in return.

by redhearring on Jul 15, 2010 9:31 AM CDT reply actions  

right!

They were both definitely at fault…each in very different ways.

by TrevorR on Jul 15, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

And quit sullying my first name

"Whoever said that the pen is mightier than the sword never encountered automatic weapons."

by Ted Glover on Jul 18, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

Yeah, your tone has been pretty negative the last couple of months.

by Tim V on Jul 15, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ted & the Pack announced that Brett OKed trades to either TB or NYJ .....false I see .

I see past wins don’t make a great franchise today . In the past the Pack was precieved to be a model franchise . All model franchises today only seem to have one thing in common . A star QB !!!!! Brett is starting to light the fires for the up coming season . The swagger is back . A healthy ankle may just have something to do with that .

by gothicpurple on Jul 15, 2010 11:47 AM CDT reply actions  

LLV , he was told he could come to camp and compete ! Then him and his wife were disrespected and forced to stay in a penthouse seperated from the team .

Then he was told on National T.V. that he was going to retire . Accept 25 million . Allow them to sell their merchandice with his name on it . And be forced to appear 10 times a year in Green !!! He said he still wanted to play . They said ,NO !!! And you know the rest ……. They got arrogant . Thought they owned a God ! And you LLV still fail to see. After 4200+ yards 33/7 Int . . Brett owns th NFL and there is nothing Ted can do about it !!! Goodell on the other hand ……….the bastard .

by gothicpurple on Jul 15, 2010 11:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Ted Thompson is the worst GM in the NFL, Bar None!

I will be there in person to see some REVENGE on Sept 9th,2010!

Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!

Brett Favre will be back in 2010, Guaranteed!

Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLV, Guaranteed!

by REVENGE4FAVRE on Jul 15, 2010 12:06 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Never heard of it

In fact I Googled it just to see if you made it up. I will have to see if they can get some of it down here. I like the Pale Ale’s on a hot summer day. I’ve become a fan of the Yuengling Brewery ( oldest in America). Their black and Tan is excellent. But I still believe that the Best brew made in America is Anchor Steam out of San Fran. A very unique taste.

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Joe Kapp

by lifelongvike on Jul 15, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

CAN VOUCH....

For Yuengling Black and Tan – Tried it on a lark I think in PA yars ago and now get it whenerver possible during travel in the US….Many great beers in many great places…last night had some Japanese beer that was fantastic – and that in Dubai no less! Cheers to beer and the season starting again soon…sure will be nice! : )

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by vikingfanfrom afar on Jul 16, 2010 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Worse Beer in the World?

I didn’t realize that the British had started a Brewery in China in 1903. But they did. TSINGTAO BEER

    Taste Characteristics according to magazines:

    Tsingtao Lager has a crisp, slightly malty flavor and nutty sweet taste which complements spicy or flavorful Asian cuisine.
    
  TAste Charachteristics according to me.

Basicaly you buy beer from local corner markets or stands in China. They have little in the way of refrigeration. Even asking for the coldest beer will get you a semi-warm bottle. Drinking Tsingtao is like drinking skunky Old Style beer. Although drinkable it is easy to understand that they still use the same equipment to make it as they did in 1903. It is the most popular beer over there and a huge operation. But it is really rot gut.

"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp

by lifelongvike on Jul 16, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have had this beer also in Shanghai....

Is a great beer, not rot gut IMO….one of the best local beers in China, there ARE worse over there in China, have had a couple lol! I guess it is a matter of taste – also not sure where you were ordering the beers you had while there, but most of the places I have been in is cold as in other parts of the world…

There are worse beers inother areas too than TsingDao – I was in Bosnia-Herzegovina for quite a while in a couple of my past lives and in Tuzla there is a brewery that has some…ummm shall we say sanitation issues – THAT was not good beer. They may have upgraded operations by now though so I will try again next visit to that area…I am a glutton fr punishment?!

Another example closer to home (for MN fans anyway) is Milwaukee’s Pabst Blue Ribbon (think that is the name – has been years now) – it filled the bill long ago when a kid but I had some again a couple of years while visiting a professor friend in VA who had some in his fridge – ooof then realized just how bad it is lol!

I think it is a matter of acquired taste for a beer…once you have a favorite, the rest will be compared and will not match…for me is like wine, each has its nuance and strong and not so strong points….Is up to the consumer I guess as to what he/she prefers to consume…or will put up with under duress/in austere conditions…

I would rather be IN the Arena than watching from the stands...That is my life!
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by vikingfanfrom afar on Jul 16, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Funny Pabst has made a resurrgence becoming a premium beer in many areas

by the yooper on Jul 16, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a long offseason...

This is just C.Gates take on TT with some substance. Everyone has their take, however I can see this is an issue need soon be laid to rest.

Favre's ankle, Starcaps BS and hopefully a busy Piston offseason, oh my. Go Netherlands/Holland/Dutch Soccer(no its not Football)! Also, Lesnar, Lesnar, Lesnar!!!!!!!

by VikesPma on Jul 16, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have 2 Packer executives and 3 board members as neighbors and the stories I have been told make me sick to my stomach. They have done everything in there power not to tarnish his image. When Brett was everyone’s hero in Packer Nation I was being told the stories of
greed and arrogance.

One story I can tell because it was relayed by my son who was probably 8 or 9 then. He used to go to Lambeau and play in the gym with one of my neighbors kids and he told me he saw Brett’s locker. I said pretty cool all those players lockers and stuff. He said no he has his own locker room he really doesn’t associate with the rest of the team. The locker with Brett’s name was for show only.

Some team player.

by the yooper on Jul 15, 2010 12:26 PM CDT reply actions  

you must make some pretty good ching if you live in that kind of neighborhood! Thanks for sharing.

by TrevorR on Jul 15, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I tentatively call out BS on this. There are like 50 board members, and if you know how the Packers work, you should know thta they Don’t Know Jack. It’s largely ceremonial. Everyone who knows anything knows that the real power (and knowledge of what goes on) lies with the executive committee & the president.

So, are any of those board members also executive committee members? If so, which ones?

by puddnhead on Jul 21, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

p.s. and his big scoop is that Favre had his own dressing room at Lambeau? Puhlease. that’s been published so many times in the last 10 years, I’ve lost count. Some “scoop.”

by puddnhead on Jul 21, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

And is that really something to highly criticize?

The media used to be all over Favre. I am sure he was trying to avoid them and also keep his head clear.

If it helped the team win games, who is really going to complain, right?

by Deek on Jul 21, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Old news

In my business life we always thought it was the management that set the tone for the workers not the other way around. But each team to their own.

It might surprise you to know that most of the Viking fans here don’t care if Brett was a part time charity worker or a night stalker in the past. He has been a great teammate and a leader of our football team. He is considered a valuable member of our current team.

"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp

by lifelongvike on Jul 15, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

There was a time when Brett was a good teamate and helped the chemistry here but I think about the time his father died (very fun person met him many times, now that man could drink) or Holmgren leaving Brett became the ultimate primadonna. Not saying he had to hang out with the guys but there was a total disassociation to the detriment of the team. You saw it when he was with the Jets great guy when he was with them, the minute he left half the team spoke out about him. Packer players won’t comment very much because years from now he will be one of the faces of our franchise again. Time has a way of healing old wounds.

Maybe he’s got a new attitude there I have no way of knowing but I do know he was not good for team chemistry the last 5-6 years here.

by the yooper on Jul 15, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ted’s responsibility is to the Green Bay Packer’s not Brett Farve. To make the right decisions a GM has to take all the emotions out of a decision, there is no one better at this. This is probably his biggest asset but also his biggest liability because it costs him in public perception.

I’m thrilled with the way it has turned out. As long Rogers is here Ted will surround him with the talent to be in the hunt every year. At 26 that could be a long time.

by the yooper on Jul 15, 2010 1:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Moronic

I was all over this story from the beginning. For days before it was released to the media that Favre was traded to the Jets, the story was that the Packers were in talks with the Buccaneers and the Jets. Favre knew the Jets were an option.

Favre tells us all his ankle is bothering him, but he will be magically healed once the Vikes leave Mankato.
He also goes out of his way to make the Packers look bad so he doesn’t look bad. Don’t be so easily duped. Viking fans…I tell you.

by medipaul on Jul 15, 2010 2:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Gruden

Gruden even stated after the trade to the Jets that the Jets offer was better.

Favre is a joke. He needs to shut his mouth. It’s only blind sheep that can’t see how full of crap he really is.

by medipaul on Jul 15, 2010 2:18 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Thanks for the heads up. We didn't know.

Now we can all sleep better knowing that Brett’s entire year with the Vikes was a sample of his being a teammate that is “full of crap”

Your just the best for revealing this to us morons.

"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp

by lifelongvike on Jul 15, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whatever

That’s really all the response your drivel is worthy of.

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by Christopher Gates on Jul 15, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude your last paragraph makes you sound like an idiot…

by TrevorR on Jul 16, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Old news..

It’s a big game of he said, she said. Obviously, all of you are more inclined to believe Favre seeing as how he’s now your starting Qb. And for the record I actually don’t doubt that Favre was told he would be traded to Tampa. I do doubt however, that he had no idea that the Jets were even an option, seeing as how it was all over ESPN. Regardless, this is old, old news. I think both sides are happy now.

by packallday555 on Jul 15, 2010 3:17 PM CDT reply actions  

it wouldn't be the first time those two changed their minds

Favre changed his mind on retiring, TT changed his on who he traded him to I guess. Alls fair in love and football! haha

by TrevorR on Jul 16, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

My Two Cents

First off, I am a Vikings fan and will give my starting quarterback the benefit of the doubt over our rival’s blush wearing GM. Let’s just get that out of the way.

I only see two possibilities in all of this:

1) Brett absolutely wanted out of Green Bay for whatever reason and he manipulated his way towards that, including lying on many occasions. A lot of the evidence supports this. But I just don’t see the motive. He’s on a team in a city where everyone adores him and just came back from the NFC championship game in which he blew it. Why would he want out? That makes no sense at all.

2) Thompson and Co. wanted Brett out of town because he was changing his mind after they did their drafts and FA acquisitions. They were so annoyed that they were actually willing to burn Brett’s legacy and put Packer fans through tremendous stress and embarrassment to accomplish it. That or they were stupid enough to think Brett and the offense would suck without Brett at all of camp. Then they did everything they could to manipulate the media and their fans into thinking that it wasn’t totally the management’s fault, including lies and deceit on multiple occasions.

I tend to go with #2 because it seems more realistic. There is actually a selfish personal motive. The only way #1 is true is if the management had angered Brett in other ways to give him motive, in which case I again go back to Ted and Co being at fault. You don’t come into town and piss off Brett Favre. Makes no sense.

It is as if the Packer management wants absolute 100% submission to authority by all of their players. Favre talking out in the past about coaching or personel decisions and holding out into camp probably ultimately pushed the management far enough to force him out of town.

The sad thing in all of this is that TT had to use deception to maintain the integrity of the organization. Kind of a paradox.

by Sand0 on Jul 15, 2010 3:34 PM CDT reply actions  

How about #3 the future of the franchise named Rogers needed to play to continue to grow as a franchise

by the yooper on Jul 15, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or #4

Rodgers said he wouldn’t stay if he didn’t get his shot.
Or #5
The owner got up on the wrong side of bed that day.
Or#6
Brett had a hangnail and was upset because of it
OR#7
Green Bat had two QBs and had to make a decision. They just didn’t know how to properly balance all the moving pieces and things got out of control
OR#8
Who Cares anymore

"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp

by lifelongvike on Jul 15, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep...

Who cares…all this crap is old news, and whatever it was it was…Now is now, and #4 is wearing a proper color – purple. Some have said his blood is also the right color now – purple!

I say let’s move on to the now and the future – so much to look forward to…and yes I drank the purple kool0aid and also have purple colored glasses on – and I must say the taste is great and the view is bright!

SKOL fellow fans – is it Sunday yet????

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by vikingfanfrom afar on Jul 16, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, but none of #4-8 explains why the Packers hired Ari Fleischer to coordinate their PR that spring & summer.

by puddnhead on Jul 16, 2010 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Please re-read #7

"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
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by lifelongvike on Jul 16, 2010 7:02 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well, I feel like dogmeat

I’ve posted all of this — well, everything but the latest quotes from Favre — many times here over the last 15 months. There is nothing new here, that was not already revealed in an interview Favre gave in Orlando in January 2009, when he “retired” from Jets.

I reposted this information so many times (maybe a half dozen or more) that I thought I was beating a dead horse, everyone already knew all about it.

But now its written up as if this is all news, rather than almost completely a rehash of story from 18 months ago that was less publicized, but I posted here many times.

Well, now I know who doesn’t read my posts :(

by puddnhead on Jul 16, 2010 12:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Probably different now..

That Favre is a Viking..
For this blog anyways..

If P. Manning had some controversial issues, would you shove that article down our throats? Or Matt Stafford (To say we speak within our own division).

by Deek on Jul 16, 2010 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I actually thought you hacked into his account and posted this! haha just giving you a hard time!

I think for the most part everyone is saying the same thing…its old news…still.

by TrevorR on Jul 16, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh well it’s a boring time, the post got a lot of reaction, but I’d rather talk about why my teams better than yours or how wo improved vs how you improved type discussions. Been laid up on the couch for 3 weeks so any discussion is better than none at all. Let the season begin

by the yooper on Jul 16, 2010 11:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Your first post and it is a classic.

Welcome.

"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp

by lifelongvike on Jul 16, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope your Vikings beat the hell out of Green Bay

For as long as that sniveling little weasel is there

World Champions at last

by mississippisaintsfan on Jul 17, 2010 6:32 PM CDT reply actions  

To trev & LLV

Trev if by flailing you mean T-jack winning in GB and winning the North . As your team wins only 6 games . Then I.ll take flailing any day !!!
LLV , you get out much . It was common fact that Brett was not allowed to compete for his job . It was common fact he was offered said contract w/25million and ten appearances for , and the sales deal . It was also common fact that he was allowed on the property but not allowed on the field . Keep defending the Pack and I will begin to wonder where your loyalties lie . My loyalty is with the truth at any cost . If you hesitate to understand where my priorities lie .

by gothicpurple on Jul 17, 2010 10:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Even ESPN stopped kicking this dead horse for now !!!!

Keep trying to discredit me . You will get over the embarassment in a few years . I said before his , Brett’s daughter will write his book and all will be good then . Diehard Pack fans will never except the point . What is the truth to fanatics anyway .

by gothicpurple on Jul 17, 2010 10:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Terrible Ted

Just when I think I’ve finally reconciled my hatred for Ted Thompson and put it behind me to a certain degree, you gotta go and stir the pot … DAMN!

by S. Owens on Jul 26, 2010 1:58 AM CDT reply actions  

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