Favre on the flight out of New Orleans, state of the ankle
by puddnhead on Jul 26, 2010 11:09 PM CDT
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PrintThere is an interesting interview out in (tomorrow's?) USA Today where Favre gives a more detailed account of what happened as the team flew out of New Orleans,. and an update on where his heart & ankle are at. Excerpts fter the jump
"I can remember walking off that podium with (wife) Deanna and my family thinking, 'I'm done,' " the Minnesota quarterback tells USA TODAY. "I mean, my heart … it was broken. People can talk about the ankle and my thigh and all that stuff, but those will mend. I just said, 'I can't take this. It's just too hard to digest.' "
Favre changed his mind and decided not to retire immediately on the Vikings' charter flight home after the loss. One after another, Viking players, coaches and personnel walked to Favre's seat and thanked him for his valiant effort.
"I mean, there were tears flyin'," Favre says. "By the time we landed, I am like, 'I don't think I can let these guys down.' I know football is a business, but more than anything I felt like there was unfinished business. All of a sudden, 'Oh, man, as much as I don't want to go through that again, I almost feel as if I owe these guys something. And that is something, I admit, I have not felt in a long time. It has made it so hard to make a rational decision."
Most folks believe Favre merely is trying to avoid training camp; he says that isn't so."That's the strange thing," he says of the yearly Favre watch. "Even I don't know. Every year, I think the decision either will be made for me, making it easier, or I will know. I'm just trying to do that right thing. If it were about money, I would have said 'Yes,' the next day," to his $13 million deal for 2010.
With a high threshold for pain, and a tolerance for his critics, Favre continues to work out in his native Mississippi, testing his ravaged body. He says the thigh feels "great." The left ankle may be a different story.
"I wake up in the morning, your feet hurt and the rest of you feels like (expletive deleted), you know?" Favre says. "The ankle still feels like it did before surgery. As the day goes by, it loosens up a bit. But I keep telling myself, 'Hey, you're 40. You have had three (ankle) surgeries, so you ought to pretty thankful it's not worse than it is.' "
Favre has started 285 consecutive regular-season games — 309 counting the playoffs. He believes, in some ways, that he is a victim of his success. "Everyone expects me to play (a whole season)," he says. "If you look at other guys (who played the position), it is a bit harder than it seems. Then, to play at that high of a level, well, that's hard to do at 25. Thinking about the upcoming season, that enters my mind. It's like, 'Hey, even you can't live up to those expectations.' "
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"Oh, man, as much as I don't want to go through that again, I almost feel as if I owe these guys something"
If that doesnt scream “I’m coming back” then i dont know what else does.
yeah I almost bolded that
But then I decided I didn’t want to draw the attention of Jets and especially Packer fans to the next line.
oops :)
Not surprising in the least.
It’s pretty consistent with what I’ve observed.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 27, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Favre indeed has a "Purple Heart".
Favre, even your agent has had enough. The drunken grillmaster, Buzz Cook, is getting too old for this.
by VikesPma on Jul 27, 2010 11:11 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Actually the end of the story is a little disheartening
If his body is feeling that badly he may seriously be thinking about calling it quits. If his ankle doesn’t get better than it may be that he will not show up after camp. Thank God Childress got us a QB in the draft though!
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
Grime there’s no way he’s not showing up. No matter what chilly says there’s no way if he thought Favre was not comming back he would of done something to get a VET QB they would be full of shit if they thought we would buy in to using the QB’s we have now. So that tells me they know more than there saying. Chilly pretty much said it in an interveiw yesterday all favre needed was 2 to 3 weeks of practice to be alright read between the lines that says to me he knows when favre’s comming back wich should be around the 3rd pre season game thats my take!!!
Grime, I know what you mean in one way, but even so the fact is this is frankly the most “enthusiastic” off-season he’s had since 2006-2007. In the last two off season he actually did decide that he was done & then changed his mind. This off season he never decided he was done (except perhaps those first couple hours he describes), so he doesn’t even really need to change his mind. Just make it up. Splitting hairs, perhaps … but that’s what we have to do with Brett Favre in the off season, divine form the tea leaves.
I’m actually getting almost as bored with this equivocation as Favre’s detractors, to be honest. But because he seems to leave it all behind him once he finally does finally step back on the field, and gives us all thrilling football to watch, I guess I just don’t get hung up on it like they do. I watch and follow the man for what he does during the “on season,” not the off season.
Hope he doesn't stop at 301 .
If they protect him better . He can at least show up to the required practices in 2011 .
Give Favre time..
And I am sure he’ll weigh his options.. Meaning he won’t have a decision ready.
As the pressure is on, and he needs to show up, he’ll show up…
Otherwise, he could potentially regret it..
Ever been in that situation?? You can’t decide, and as the pressure is on, you just make a bold move… Like F it!! I’m doing it.. Or screw it, let’s do this..
That’s basically how I think he’ll view it.. Down to the last moment, and he’ll think.. I don’t want to miss out, hell w/ it… I know I can do it..
But, instead of a short moment of this, this is basically dragged over weeks and months.
I just liked JA's comments in his interview
we don’t need you at camp, come on back when we start playing.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
Two things everyone can agree on about Favre.
(1) He will not be at training camp.
(2) Before a dramatic return, he will remain in the spotlight as much as possible to make certain everyone knows that even though he will have to sacrifice his aching body, he has the hopes and dreams of a team riding on his shoulders.
Too bad Lebron’s “Decision” special was such a disaster or we could be looking forward to seeing a repeat in a couple of weeks.
Sept 9, 2010, 7:30pm - We'll discuss the matter at that time.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
Drew Dat do you ever have anything positive to say when you post here watch it’s easy sept 9th is going to be a he’ll of a game may the best team win see it’s not hard SKOL VIKES!!!
by cali viking on Jul 28, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I really wasn’t trying to be negative. I respect the Vikings and their fans. The opening game will no doubt be one of the most anticipated NFL events of the season.
Nobody doubts that Favre is coming back. But I think everyone at the Daily Norseman would agree that he’s got the “will he or won’t he” game down to a science. Ignoring the Lebron reference, as it was intended as satire, do you really disagree with what I said?
On a postive note: Good luck this season. May the best team win on 9/9/10 and may no one have a significant injury. If your team is victorious, you will hear nothing from me except “congratulations”.
Yes, we disagree with what you said.
Here is what you said
Before a dramatic return, he will remain in the spotlight as much as possible to make certain everyone knows that even though he will have to sacrifice his aching body, he has the hopes and dreams of a team riding on his shoulders.
You can believe that it is Farve that wants the spotlight on him every moment. You can believe that his fame is what drives him. You appear to believe that is the driving force behind Brett Farve. We disagree.
The man is 40 years old. An unheard of age for a top 5 starting QB. He has earned the right to make up his mind whenever he is sure of the decision. He has the Vikings blessing to miss training camp. He has his teammates blessing to miss training camp. Heck, he even has the back-up QBs blessing to miss training camp. We believe that he is undecided as to the season.
We are in hopes that he will make an unequivocal choice soon and that choice will let him give 100% of his time and effort to a SB bid. But we respect his process. We don’t chalk up his decision process to vanity.
So yes we disagree with what you said.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Jul 28, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
And...
When you look at it from a different point of view…
This means other players like Tavaris Jackson, Sage Rosenfels, & Joe Webb are getting multiple reps (more than the probably normal for back-ups) in camp.
More reps can mean better preparation. This will ultimately help during the pre-season to see who is showing skills, or who is a likely bust. We all know what Favre is capable of, so why see what he can do? The only reason he may want to attend the late part of the camp is to connect better with his receivers. Make sure their timing is down. But most of them are probably somewhat familiar w/ it.
most who are 40 and still playing QB are in super back up roles
So they don’t play much at all. As for the Saints game being one of the best games of the year I will happily say you’re wrong as I think it will be the best game in the regular season by far.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
lifelongvike: Gentlemen with different perspectives can often disagree.
If Brett were the QB for my team, I might share your opinion. Likewise, I suspect if this whole issue involved a team other than the Vikings, you might have a less sympathetic viewpoint.
If this was the first time he had ever delayed a decision announcement, I think I would definately share your opinion. But it’s not the first time. And given the similarities to “Jason” pointed out below, it may not even be the last time..
I’m really not trying to be argumentative or thinking I can change your mind. I’m just trying to explain my perspective.
I agree that Favre is still an elite quarterback at the age of 40. That, in and of itself, is a remarkable achievement. But, I’ve thought he has an over-inflated ego long before he began wearing a Viking’s uniform. I also think Reggie Bush and Darren Sharper have over-inflated egos, but it doesn’t make me wish they weren’t on my team. Big ego’s are not that uncommon amongst professional athletes. Because Brett has a very good ability to disguise his ego or love affair with the limelight with country boy charisma doesn’t necesarily mean it doesn’t exist. That’s kinda what I meant when I said he had it “down to a science”. And that’s not really a criticism per se’…. just my opinion based on my observations over the years.
To Favre’s credit, the reason I feel certain that he will be back is because I think he does care enough about the game and the Vikings that he would have already announced he wouldn’t be back if there was a liklihood that might be the case. While it may be true the coach, players and fans have no problem with his not having full participation in training camp, it’s a bad precedent to allow any player to get a “free pass” once they’re officially on the roster. If done that openly, it would only be a matter of time before other star players throughout the league would want to get that stipulation in their contracts (the ego thing again)…. and then the whole system would go to hell. From past comments I’ve read, I know there are some members of this blog who agree with my opinion that the non-decision has a lot more to do with when he comes back than if he comes back. Favre is in a unique position that allows everyone to save face and not leave anyone wide open to the critcism that would likely be heard if this charade weren’t played out. I’m not even saying he hasn’t “earned” it…. just that he’s taking advantage of the opportunity. If I got my boss’s blessing to take an extra couple of weeks or so off work with no down side whatsoever, I’d be all over it. (But to be honest, If I had his money, I would have announced my unconditional retirement a long time ago.)
On a purely positive note, I agree that with Favre’s experience and knowledge of the system, he probably doesn’t reap that much benefit from full training camp participation. Deek makes a good point regarding the other QB’s getting better prepared for the season by getting more reps with the starting team than they would if he were present the whole time. It certainly allows for a much better prepared plan ’b" if Favre were to have a serious injury during the season.
And to show I’m not blind to my team’s weakness…..if Brett did suffer an injury that sidelined him for a prolonged period, the Vikings could still have a good, fighting chance. On the other hand, if Drew Brees were to be sidelined for a prolonged number of games, I fear it could get ugly.
True that...
We’re all biased since Favre is on our team now… If he was still a Packer, some of us would probably hope that he would decide to call it quits in hoping that we have a better shot at the conference title.
But since we are being biased, we all believe we have a better shot with Favre at the helm. T-Jack is a decent back-up (some may disagree), but, he is our plan B option.
T-Jack has started games, been a Viking for a few years, has played with the team and got reps last year and is currently taking advantage of the reps he will get in training camp.
Unless surprisingly Webb proves to be even better and T-Jack even gets pushed down the depth charts even more.
I am curious to see how the whole QB issue works out..
Example: Lets say, Favre doesn’t return, if Webb shines a little more in training camp, could he steal the starting job? Or would we just be relying on T-Jack and hoping that he can get stuff done.
If Favre does come back as expected, would we potentially release Sage? Or try to keep Webb as a WR to have him as an option as a future QB.
Come on
Lets say, Favre doesn’t return, if Webb shines a little more in training camp, could he steal the starting job?
Joe Webb will NOT be the starting QB of this team at the end of camp under ANY scenario.
I will put my money where my mouth is. I will take the bet at nearly any odds you care to name. The idea is preposterous.
I would agree
But, it’s a situation we may never find out if its remotely possible.
Since Favre is likely to return..
But, I’m playing the What if’s!
What if, Favre doesn’t return, and Webb shows to be a better QB than T-Jack…. Would the FO give him his shot at playing, or make him sit behind T-Jack since T-jack has sat and waited for his return again..
T-Jack or Sage would start under your scenario
Even if Webb showed brilliance he would not be handed the keys to the complicated Viking offense. We have two very talented back-ups. It would be conceivable ( although not likely) that Webb could progress enough to start later in the season. But he would not start during the first half of this season. Just look at the schedule.
I wouldn’t start any Rookie QB with that schedule unless I was forced to.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Jul 29, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Very true...
I think we are speaking of a scenario that is very unlikely to happen this year. I do know that T-Jack would likely be the one to start in a situation Favre doesn’t return. From my understanding, he was the go-to QB if Favre never came to the Vikings. As I’ve stated on these blogs before, I am curious on how they handle Webb considering his physical talent. I couldn’t see him being the 4th QB on the depth charts, but, potentially the 3rd string QB. (If that was the case, I would be Sage would be released). If I was in Sage’s shoes, I would start to fear for my job. I think it would be hard for Sage to find another team as a 3rd string QB.
I hope they start putting Webb through some WR drills, so we can potentially use him at that position. I know he has some highly skilled players he would have to beat out, but, given that he could learn the routes of all the plays, it could better suit him in a QB role down the road. And we could potentially use him out on the field.
With his speed, jumping ability, and huge hands, if he can get into a WR role, he could be pretty phenomenal (sp*?).
Just makes waiting for the regular season even harder.
Are you sure?
I think it would be hard for Sage to find another team as a 3rd string QB.
Did you see who was signed yesterday? Mark Brunell? Isn’t he older than Brett?
Now I would agree that it might be difficult for Sage to get a similar contract to what he has now. But people really don’t give him credit. He is extremely experienced with different systems. He has an excellent arm. He can read defenses. He is fairly mobile. He might never get to play for the Vikes. But he was brought in by Spielman for a reason. There is a place for him on a team in the NFL.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Jul 29, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I agree.
Sage could get a backup job with quite a few teams right now. In Buffalo for instance he would probably get a chance to compete for the starting job.
by CanadianViking on Jul 29, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
i was making that assumption due to his pay grade.
He would have to take a pay-cut (most likely) to sign w/ another team.
Don't tell Charlie Whitehurst
He got more than Sage and has absolutely no experience except for sitting on the bench.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Jul 30, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Although I’m from New Orleans originally, I’ve lived in Houston for 25 years so I’m familiar with Sage when he was with the Texans. He was well thought of in Houston. The times he was called on to play, he did a good job. The only complaint about him here was that he sometimes tried too hard to make a play when it just wasn’t there.
When he first came to you guys, I thought he would be starting and was interested to see how it would work out. I think he’s one of those many players in the NFL that if things would have worked out just a little different, he would have been a starter. Had he had the shot, one can only speculate how it would have turned out.
But in the NFL, sometimes theres not that big of a difference between a Sage Rosenfels and a Matt Ryan. One gets the opportunity and one doesn’t.
Well Sage has had his opportunities.
The Redskins gave him a legitimate shot. Spielman picked him up for Miami to be the potential starter. Houston used him solely as a back-up and he was competing in Minnesota for the starting job before Brett became available.
But the fact that he has yet to be a legitimate starter doesn’t make him less valuable to the Vikings. It just irks people that he has a larger contract than T-Jack but does not appear any more ready than T-Jack.
From my viewpoint T-Jack is getting screwed. But I think Sage is excellent insurance. Normally I pay more for my house than the insurance. But I’m not Viking management ( yet).
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Jul 30, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Tjack is only getting screwed
because he screwed himself.
If he would have performed at a even just a border line acceptable level he would have been the starter, and would have easily gotten a new contract.
Drew- Well written explanation
I took no offense to your original question and certainly am not offended that you hold a different opinion than mine.
I think your opinion was formed from the perspective you stand in and mine was formed from my perspective. As a person who has contemplated retirement I can inform you that it is a difficult decision. Brett made that decision once and then found out how difficult it was to change his mind. I certainly wouldn’t expect him to make that error again.
I further disagree with your statement that Brett not attending Training camp sets a bad precedent. It has always been a standing rule in every clubhouse that every single starting Franchise QB over the age 40 can make his own decision as to training camp (said with tongue in cheek). Every single Viking player in Brett’s position can make the same decision. In all honesty, the Vikings have three players over 38 years old. Pat Williams, Ryan Longwell, and Brett. These three have earned the trust and respect of their teammates. It is not a “locker room issue” or bad coaching precedent.
It is in fact a “Hobsen’s choice”. If a team wishes the services of Brett Farve as their QB, then they have to respect his age and experience. The Vikings do respect that. It is only the media guys that don’t get it. The guys who think their opinions matter. One of them decides he knows best about the Viking locker room and all of a sudden the Vikings management is doing everything wrong.
I suspect by the time Brett is done playing almost everyone will appreciate his actions on the field and no one will be talking about training camp. HMMM. Now that I think about it no one talked about it during the NFCCG either. A real non issue.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Jul 29, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree
I would have no doubt that retirement for a man like Favre would be considered hard. Being at the age of 40-41, the only thing you may feel that you know is football. And if you love to play, and you love those big paychecks, you may never want to give it up. Favre obviously still has the talent to start for a great NFL team. Not very many of us would think it possible to consider retirement in our early 40s. We would contemplate what we would do with the remainder of our lives… I think in Favre’s case, he really wants to go to the Superbowl at least one more time and he must really believe the Vikings are one of the only few teams that could get him there.
As for the training camp, the last thing I want, is to bore my QB and possibly get him winded before the season even starts. He obviously has been working out to keep himself in shape. He knows the game, better than almost all if not all current QBs (Not to mention many coaches). If we make it easier for him to come back, it is likely he will more than likely come back. Coaches, players, and fans really want to see him return. The people who oppose him are likely a fan from another team who may dislike the Vikings, or those that are sick of hearing about the Favre drama (yet, those that complain & comment on it are indeed finding it interesting enough to read into).
That’s my 2 cents
I think the "bad precedent" is exactly why they are playing this game...
and it’s definitely why they played it last year. Last year they did it because of the obvious potential locker room ramifications of letting a QB who had never played a snap for the team skip training camp. It is incredibly naive to think that Favre decided to stay retired then changed his mind after camp was done. He had a plan, and Chilly was in on it (Wilf too in all likelihood).
This year they don’t need to worry about the locker room, but there are likely 31 owners who would not appreciate this precedent, and who don’t want their personnel expecting the same treatment. It’s easy enough to play the indecision game again and not worry about ruffling any feathers or opening a Pandora’s box, and the ankle surgery just adds more plausibility. I mean seriously, can you really believe that Favre, Chilly and Wilf genuinely don’t know if he’s coming back?!
Thats exactly what I keep saying they have to know whats going on good take Jshore!!!
by cali viking on Jul 29, 2010 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah, the cospiracy grows
I will admit that my naivety gets in the way of my logic at times.
But now you have created a conspiracy between an owner, one or more coaches ( remember Bevelle flew to Mississippi), and a QB. Not one word of this secret timetable leaks out and all of this is done to pacify 31 owners of other football teams.
I guess that is easier to believe, than the fact that Brett changed his mind last year and hasn’t decided yet this year. To each his own.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Jul 30, 2010 5:43 AM CDT up reply actions
It's not a complicated idea really...
Let’s say hypothetically that Chilly and Favre (Wilf or not) know that he’s coming back but have agreed that he will skip camp and join the team after the 2nd preseason game. Would they just come out and say that? Wouldn’t that potentially create an undesirable level of media/league fallout? It would surely put all of the attention on that issue and EVERYONE’S opinion of it.
The “conspiracy” isn’t a plan to pacify anyone, it simply makes life easier for all parties. Or maybe it’s as simple as Chilly playing dumb and letting Favre manipulate the situation. More people think that his return is a forgone conclusion than otherwise, so how else do you justify that opinion? Are so many people really convinced that an undecided Favre will inevitably make that decision?! Or don’t most of us really believe that he already knows and is only waiting until he can make it public while skipping camp with as little collateral hoopla as possible?
It’s not a growing conspiracy, it’s actually a simpler interpretation of the facts. Of course the beauty of it is… I could be totally wrong.
No I think you hit the nail on the head with that one I think thats whats going on.
by cali viking on Jul 30, 2010 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Good reply Drew Dat you and Jricky are great fans of the game thanks for keeping it real and nothing against you but I do agree with LLvike on this one but yes good luck with the season may the best team come out on top SKOL VIKES!!!
Cheers Cali!
It’s hard to believe our first pre-season is 2 weeks from tomorrow! Can’t wait to see the players on the field. And Sept.9 will be here in a blink of an eye. Gonna be a hell of a season!
And yes Favre will be back no doubt.
When I think of Favre, I think of the earlier first 3 Friday the 13th movies when Jason Voorhees would get stabbed, hung, etc. He would just keep getting back up over and over! They must have that similar gene. Lol.
He's tough as nails Cali!!
Speaking of Jason, When I was a kid. I was terrified of Jason. Me being the adrenaline junkie that i am… I thrived on horror movies and of course the most important….. Football. I could watch NFL football 365 24/7. I’m that addicted.
To throw in a little humor….here was Jason in F13 Part 3 in 1982. One of my favorites. After Part 3 it went downhill. He was very intimidating and evil Lol!
Hmmm
I liked the nightmare on elm street movies… Because, Freddy seemed more creepy and it made you not dare go to bed as a kid.
When I was really young, I remember the movie Critters would scare the crap out of me. I was like 4/5… so you could about imagine.
Freddy was scary at first but comical in the sequels.
Michael myers was spine tingling scary and had the look of real evil wearing that emotionless mask.
Jason was scary, strong, and just downright intimidating in part 2 and 3. Those were the days when they made great horror movies.
I know!!!
Nothing really competes with it now…
I saw a preview for one that looks pretty creepy..
The Exorcist I think? I can’t remember, but where the ppl are going crazy because their embodied by the demons/devil.
I think the Blair Witch project was dumb, but the end was weird, yet at the same time it can now make the woods just a little bit scarier.
I enjoyed the Ring
thought that was a well made movie and sent chills down my spine.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
Eh
The movie was creepy, but, you know some of them older school scary movies are hard to top for some reason.
Why is that? Are we more mature now? Or would the good old classics just have better story lines?
I bet, even if I were to rent some old Jason movie, etc. I would get scared.
Drew Brees loves the camera
loves thinking of himself as a savior, loves thinking of himself as a hero. And you don’t want injuries? That seems very un-Saints like. Shouldn’t you target the key players to try and cripple them and knock them out?
This is off topic but this is for any one bikes or pack fan I keep reading all these sports writers articles and most of them are picking the pack to win the north and I hate that ffn moron Don Banks but any ways we are the defending champs 2 years running and we have favre and the best back in the game I would like to think we are still the big dogs untill they knock us off we are the NFC North CHAMPSim not knocking the pack they are a very good team but we are the best team untill someone shows otherwise anyone care to join in please do so!!
Prolly should make that comment a new post.
However I agree We are the defending NFC North champs, until FEB ’11 when we become the Superbowl Champs.
"If you've got them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow."
John Wayne
by just another viking on Jul 28, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
+4 J A V WE WILL BE SUPERBOWL CHAMPS SKOL VIKES!!!
by cali viking on Jul 28, 2010 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
did no one read this part???
“I wake up in the morning, your feet hurt and the rest of you feels like (expletive deleted), you know?” Favre says. "The ankle still feels like it did before surgery. As the day goes by, it loosens up a bit. But I keep telling myself, ‘Hey, you’re 40. You have had three (ankle) surgeries, so you ought to pretty thankful it’s not worse than it is.’ "
This means that the surgery he had to have to play this year DID NOTHING!! I know as fans everyone wishes Favre comes back for another year however…….me thinks that well has run dry. Even if comes back I don’t think he will make a full season. I just want him to make to “come back home” for one more game.
by greenbay packers backer on Jul 28, 2010 6:40 PM CDT reply actions
I get it PAD555 but i still think its all things he’s saying just like he did last year so he doesn’t make the coach look bad when he isn’t at camp. Last year he said he wasn’t comming back just to mis camp then after 2 pre season games he comes back. My point chilly knows when he’s comming back its all red tape BS they do this so know one looks bad on either side.If chilly wasn’t sure they would of picked up a vet QB bank on it chilly has known for a while what the game plan was its all red tape like i said you can read between the lines from chilly’s interveiw yesterday!!!
in tht vein
Mariucci & peter king are now (tonight) saying it’s 60-40 if Favre comes back or retires, becasue the ankle is not healed. Zulgad wrote a story on it.
Sigh … jesus, MCF’s story was not dramatic enough, if anything.
What a pile of crap.
But I suppose it does generate ratings, doesn’t it?
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 29, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Heh
As I remember reading an article of how people who were watching Favre practice w/ the H.S. kids, happened to comment on how they thought he moved around with ease…
Heh, maybe this is to counter-act it, like a cover your behind comment. Basically he is over-exaggerating his ankle to get out of camp, when he knows it is fine..
We may never know how that brain of Favre really works.
idea for Hollywood Script pitch
“Being Brett Favre” (a la John Malcovich) People go in a door that enters Favre’s head, and … immediately get completely lost.
I read that, and commented on it above
But honestly the alternative to him coming back is to horrible to really think about and not just start crying. Going with that if Favre does retire I think Childress should be his by a gigantic ball of ear wax. Killing him by soffocation.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
by Grime on Jul 29, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I read that part also.
That is why I believe that Brett has not made a final decision yet. He is probably leaning towards playing. But if I woke up hurting every morning and then contemplated being beaten up for 19 games it would give me pause to reflect.
This will come as a surprise to many Viking fans ( especially Grime) but the Viking front office knew of this possibility last year. It is the same possibility as Brett getting injured and not playing. I will say this once more.
“The Vikings reviewed their QB situation after the end of last season and found it to be in good shape. They like the two guys backing Brett up.”
Just because the fans don’t trust T-Jack or Sage does not mean that the coaches and front office are idiots. Sometimes you just have to trust the guys in charge.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Jul 29, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I feel as if I have no doubt in his return.
I do feel that I have fear in him getting injured.. I know he is an iron-man, but, our O-line needs to play up to par. He is slightly older, and the thing with Favre, I believe he’ll player injured if need be. That’s what I fear he’ll do…
It’ll seem as if he got injured, than he’ll continue to play as if he wasn’t injured yet he really is. I think he’ll be fine since his ankle healed, but, didn’t he play through injury with the Jets?
Yet, even an injured Favre may outperform a T-jack, so it’s a situation of “what do you do?”
They read it....
…. they just know it doesn’t matter. It’s all just window dressing. Dude’s coming back. Period.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 29, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
All you have to do is think this...
Why would Favre, wait til pre-season time to say he is not coming back? For a team he feels he owes a little something too, why would he throw them under the bus?
Waiting until the last-minute to make a final decision would be very classless. And I do not see him doing that.
Should be easy money on betting he plays again.
Hmmm,
Why would someone that hasn’t made up his mind tell a team he isn’t coming back? A person doesn’t know the answer until they know the answer. If he doesn’t know the answer by the start of the season he will probably not come back.
This is the debate. Some believe he knew the answer months ago. Some don’t believe that. Some think he milks the situation to fan the fire of his Ego. Some don’t.
Whatever the truth is, we do know this. When the Vikes hired Brett they knew this was going to be the situation each year. It is not a surprise and is not unexpected. The coaching staff dealt with it last year and they are dealing with it this year.
No sweat. Training camp is preparing this team for life without Brett. That is a good thing.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
Very true...
But I see a difference from last year to this year………
It was uncertain on how well he would perform coming from the Jets. He just had surgyer on his rotator cuff, and had a poor late season performance. Most people thought he was done, including the majority of us Vikings fans. Some of Vikings fans probably were mostly excited to bring him on-board in thinking it was another chance to make a poke at the Packers. I thought he filled a void in what the team lacked. A decent quarterback with experience. And that is what he brought to the table. Now, you think after having a year that would be considered one of the best of his life…. But, you have to think, your were 1 bad throw away probably from going to the Superbowl. You also say you enjoy your team and enjoy how the fans have accepted you. You feel like you’ll let a lot of you fans/teammates down if you do not return. You took the necessary steps in order to return (i.e., surgery on ankle, working out, throwing footballs at the h.s., etc).
I view it like this.. He could very well be unsure, but regardless, he has to make a decision considering he is still has the signed contract. He just can’t keep going and just let the days go by and once the season opener has finally come & gone do we learn he does not come back.
That would be crazy!
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