Where's Percy?
by Eric J. Thompson on Aug 10, 2010 1:29 PM CDT
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PrintNobody seems to know for sure when Percy Harvin is going to return to Vikings training camp.
He has missed 15 consecutive practices and hasn't practiced in the month of August since leaving the team after the death of his grandmother. Harvin is apparently in Eden Prairie but isn't back practicing in Mankato, and he may not return there at all since Thursday is the final day of training camp practices. Judd Zulgad of the Strib says that Childress confirmed the grumblings that Harvin is once again suffering from migraines. Here's what Chilly had to say about how the Vikings are dealing with it:
It's ongoing...from the people at Mayo that are extremely qualified, there is a Mayo down in Jacksonville. He's seen neurologists. It's just something that continues on. The only thing that would be wrong is if we quit trying to find things and throw our hands up in the air. It's kind of an inexact science if you will.
Oh, just super.
Anyone who followed last season at all remembers the constant drama surrounding Harvin's playing status due to migraines. (I'll spare you the corny "it happened so often, it gave all of us migraines" joke. Oh crap, maybe not.) Childress himself can only wait patiently and hope Harvin doesn't miss any game time so he can be the multi-faceted threat we drafted him to be. Unfortunately, all we fans can do is sit and wait as well.
My not-so-far-fetched conspiracy theory: Harvin's fine and he's just playing possum until training camp breaks. After all, he does have a pretty good example in Brett Favre, amiright?!
"I LEARNED IT FROM WATCHING YOU, OK BRETT?!"
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You think....
With so many people in the world, there would be a cure, some type of medication, or some sort of fix to his on-going problem. If I was Percy, I would be curious as to whether it may threaten his career as a pro-athlete.
I wonder if it is stress-related??
yes it is likely stress related
and there is a great medication to solve the problem, its generic name is mary jane. It is supposed to work really well for this ailment but the NFL will not allow him to take it.
it is better to be thought of as dumb then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Ben Franklin
by montana vikes fan on Aug 10, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Makes you wonder.....
Why can’t they find a Mary Jane substitute………..
Somethign that’ll remove the pain just like Mj would.
it is really technical
canibinoids (?) have certain healing properties, so I am told. These are unique to the plant. medical use of the plant is ok here in Montana, but it violates the league substance abuse policy. My thought is, that if a doctor says its ok, it should be ok.
it is better to be thought of as dumb then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Ben Franklin
by montana vikes fan on Aug 10, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
The problem is...
… that this isn’t a cold or some other illness caused by a commonly known virus (probably a bad example since there’s no “cure” for the cold either). Migraines have wildly varying triggers. I know people that can avert migraine headaches by eating a certain kind of fruit when they start, and I know others that take all kinds of meds and still end up disappearing into a dark room with sunglasses on for a day when it hits.
It’s like an allergy. Pinning down the cause isn’t always easy, and sometimes there is more than one trigger. Some people don’t respond to meds. It’s not always an easy thing to treat, and it looks like Harvin is one of those unfortunate people who have more than one trigger and who don’t respond to the standard med.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 10, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Migranol
It saved the part of Terrell Davis’s career that wasn’t ruined by injury. Unfortunately, not all of those who suffer from migraines respond to Migranol. There are other Rx cocktails and things like magnesium for migraine sufferers, too.
Percy
will be fine. He will be terrorizing defenses come week 1. Dont worry
What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your entire rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Aug 10, 2010 1:43 PM CDT reply actions
I hope he's back very soon....
This is a big problem for him, obviously. Most of all, I wish him good health, but I also hope he’s back playing like last year.
You know, this and the bulging disc in his neck, makes me kind of think he should retire from football. I’m afraid he’ll be a real mess when he does retire, but I hope I’m wrong.
I hope he gets back ready to play and kicks butt and enjoys good health for years to come.
by HammeroftheGods on Aug 10, 2010 1:46 PM CDT reply actions
I’ve wondered myself. I think he has a way to deal with these, but the NFL rules essentially force him to endure them instead.
If I were him, I would seriously consider hanging it up just as soon as I thought I had enough money, if this keeps up. Playing pro ball and making all the dough just ain’t worth it if the league substance rules force you to live in a state of physical misery.
Yep he only missed one game last year but
Did you see his production slip towards the end of last season where every game he was probable. The migranes got worse and affectd his play.
Favre, even your agent has had enough. The drunken grillmaster, Buzz Cook, is getting too old for this.
He was also a rookie who was used to playing 13 total games instead of the 18 regular and postseason games, plus the preseason. Most rookies hit a wall toward the end of their first season, so you shouldn’t read too much into that.
That's an interesting tidbit..
But wasn’t he getting like 1 TD per game for the first few games via Favre???
He caught TDs (1 each) in weeks 1,2,8, and 11-13. So its not like he was racking up the TDs early and fell of, just his overall production slipped (receiving yards, return yards, catches, etc). It happens with most rookies and I would expect that he will be better this season, barring migraines of course.
Looking at the #s
There were no TDs the last 4 games(1 missed), so it could be an over reaction but I think they affected his play. He did win Offensive ROY… I just want to see him reach his full potential. If the only medication is weed then get a doctors note and send it to Goodell, jk, lol.
Favre, even your agent has had enough. The drunken grillmaster, Buzz Cook, is getting too old for this.
Berrian’s play was improving over the same time period…
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Aug 11, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
His migraines definitely attributed to his play, or lack thereof, down the stretch. I was just trying to make the point that there was probably more to it than just the migraines. Most rookies tend to hit the “Rookie Wall” late in the season and that was probably a factor as well. Luckily, it is one of those factors that diminishes as players gain experience and their bodies adjust to the NFL schedule, so if he can ever get past the migraines, the sky is the limit.
DC's also knew how dangerous he is
So by the end of the season they started accounting for him more. At the start of the season everyone knew he was great in college but did not know how or if his skills would translate in the pro game.
by SouthernNorseman on Aug 10, 2010 5:31 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Migraines Suck!
I fought Migraines for years. They stopped as suddenly as they came on about 17 years ago and I haven’t had one since. Bad headaches, yes, I’ve had a few of those but a Migraine is a beast all it’s own. I wish Percy well.
The Minnesota Vikings - Undefeated in the Playoffs at Lambeau Field!
Put that man on some levetiracetam (a.k.a. Keppra)!!
It’s an anti-seizure drug used for preventing focal (non convulsive) seizures in epilepsy, but they’re finding out it works wonders for migraines and has hardly any side effects in most people. I take 2500mg per day of the stuff.
article on Keppra for chronic severe migraines
"What I’m trying to say is that Lovie is an idiot. Let’s not forget this." --celerysalt, WCG commenter
You can't relate
Unless you’ve experienced it. When your head beats, and that close to your brain, it feels like a train is running over your head. You can’t sleep because its rattling your brain which must be relaxed to sleep. You can’t walk because it only intensifies.
This WILL be a problem some weeks. However, I’d only predict him missing 2 or 3 games. We will be ok in those few games without him. There are plenty of ways to attack in our offense. Oh, and our defense, will always be stingy. There wasn’t a game last year that we didn’t have a shot at winning (because of our Defense) except the Cardinals game (UCK).
SKOL VIKES
Get well soon
I really hope he’s not pulling a Favre because, as a WR/SB/KR, he needs the conditioning a lot more than an old pocket QB.
I also hope that Harvin opens his mind to other treatment options since the toking is clearly not solving the problem right now and it wears off during the course of a game, even if he was allowed to spark up in the locker room. The other treatment(s) may not be as enjoyable as the lettuce, but they may be more effective.
Hopefully all those doctors at the Mayo have read the advice from the DN :)
Seriously, I’m sure he’s tried all that stuff. If pot is legalized in some states, the NFL may have to revise it’s policy and that could help him out too.
I just hope the best for Percy and the Vikings (was that a movie?), for all the usual selfish reasons and for Percy’s own well-being.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
Cmon Eric
get over the “Favre does it, so can I” bit. And get better Percy. They really should have some sort of rule that if a player has a life long issue with something medically, they should be allowed to take something that allows them to continue with the quality of life that all people should be afforded. Just because he is a rich football player doesn’t mean that he is not afforded the same liberties that us normal folk have. I know of plenty of people who take something that normally would be against the rules but the workplace still allows them to take it in order to not suffer from pain. The NFL should really take a look at this and do the right thing.
by SeanInEauClaireWi on Aug 11, 2010 8:40 AM CDT reply actions
Even though I'm a Bears fan, I hope he gets better.
I’ve had migraines for the last 16 years and it is not fun. I’ve gone to the Mayo Clinic myself and regularly went to the Diamond Headache Clinic in Chicago, which is one of the best Headache Doctors in the world. Stopped going to them after 6 years since they couldn’t figure it out. From there, I saw Liver Doctors, Allergists, Chiropractors, Acupuncture, and even almost had Botex to see if that would help, all to no avail. The last Migraine I got was back in 2002 and that headache has still not gone away.
I have been able to get an alternative treatment that has helped me a great deal. In 2003, I saw a Neurosurgeon who implanted wires in my head and batteries in my chest. They sent shocks or messages to my brain telling me that there was no pain. It has really helped. I can turn off my batteries and change settings, so if I turn it off, I’ll be finre for about 2 or 3 days. But after that, I’m back to being miserable.
Sorry for the long story, but maybe that could be something for Percy to look into.
It's true that we don't know what we've got until we lose it, but it's also true that we don't know what we've been missing until it arrives.
No, I don't think that's a good idea for Harvin
I doubt you line up against 200+ pound men 6 out of 7 days of the week and have them slam you into the ground. It’s like why players don’t generally get lap-band surgery even if they need to lose weight. The physical punishment they take would create a risk of knocking it loose or something worse.
Migraines can be hereditary or they can be self induced....
Migraines can be hereditary or they can be self induced. When I was a teenager, I always had a migraine headache come on right after our family returned from church services. I spent the rest of each Sunday in my bedroom, with the shades pulled down to darken the room, laying on top of the blanket on my bed, just staring at the knob on the radiator heat unit up against the wall. I had these migraines every Sunday during the school year, but once Summer Vacation started, no more migraines!
I never had another migraine since, and I am now 62 years old. Migraines can be caused by stress, that which we put on ourselves, or stress that other put on us by their demands of improvement of our work or performance.
My eldest daughter was a straight A student with a 4.00 academic grade point average, I rewarded her with a 30 day trip to France with her High School French Class, between her Junior and Senior years of High School. She was planning a College in Appleton WI to major in medicine, hoping to get into Gene Therapy. She was a member of the High Schools Honor Society.
One month into her Senior Year at High\ School, she developed Migraine Headaches, that cause her to spend every day in her room in her bed until the evening hours. She never returned to school to finish her Senior Year. The school made matters worst by not allowing her to retake her Senior Year the next year, or mark her down for not taking the classes that she signed up for as incomplete. Instead they gave her failing grades for courses she never took. And denied her return to make up those classes the next year. This destroyed her grade score average to a 1.24 (D-minus). After her Senior Class graduated, she was not allowed to attend even being short only 2 academia points in English. She had to read two books and write reports on the books, “Tale of Two Cites” by Charles Dickens, and “The Iliad” by Homer. Who is able to read when they have migraines?
I tried starting a court case for damages by the school system for how they treated my daughters condition, but the Public School System has some lawyers that have for the past 8 years kept the suite from being heard in court…..
At age 26 she is finally going to college, not to be a Doctor, but to a local college to become a 2-year Register Nurse.
I grieve for anyone cursed with migraines, it is a living “Hell On Earth”! For the most part there is nobody who can help, and there are even many more that do not even care!
Everyone we meet in life give us happiness, some by their arrival, others by their departure!
I’d consider looking around for a new lawyer for your daughter.
Good luck to her.
by medicineball on Aug 11, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Reason being… many lawyers are lazy. Maybe the problem is your lawyer is just too lazy to get her case done.
by medicineball on Aug 11, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Vikes send letter
Seems the Vikes are getting a exemption for Percy…left squad…now it seems serious.
The news was listed at nfl.com and others are starting to carry the story.
Elephant in the room
Why isn’t anyone bringing up the question that Harvin might be suffering from clinical depression? It’s been known to bring about migraines and mostly just makes you want to sit in bed all day in a dark room.
by Jepp The Viking on Aug 13, 2010 2:09 PM CDT reply actions
I can't believe there is more talk about this as well.
Harvin, a definite key player in our offense & kick-returns.
I think we need this guy really bad…. He’s a solid 3rd down target, and a great player.
His loss, would also mean we lose out on a draft pick from the previous year. Remember, this guy is a ROY… He also has been beefing up during the off-season to prevent injury (If I recall, he has had shoulder issues and also that bulging discs in his neck). I know that migraines could be pretty serious, but maybe his head is not in the right place. Maybe the front office knows more than we know?? I hope this kid pops his head out sooner or later…
I know everyone grieves over death differently….. But, I also believe that Percy enjoys playing football and he needs to do what he loves to remember that life goes on.
it may impact Ole#4?
Am wondering if this coupled with the Rice hip/contract, might sway a certain player one way or the other on his retirement….seems AP is not in top form either.
Makes you wonder just how bad this what was a dream season again, could turn into.
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