It's Schism Gate II!!! And A Comment About Harvin's Situation
by Ted Glover on Aug 19, 2010 10:44 PM CDT
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PrintWith all the scary news about Percy Harvin, there's another story that's, if I had to guess, about 99% Bravo Sierra, yet ESPN continues to push it as hard as ABC tries to push 'The View' as quality television. Stop me if you've heard this before, but the arrival of Brett Favre has caused a 'schism' yet again. Look, it's not my style to bash the press. A lot of the stuff that people report regarding the NFL is good info, but for some reason they just go nuts regarding Favre. It's gotten to the point where I'd rather watch this guy do sports every night:
Or Harry Caray talking the solar system.
The media has this love-hate thing going on with Favre, and they swear that his legacy is damaged, but then turn around and say, once he's decided to play, that he will go down as the greatest of all time.
They will say that he's the Vikings only chance to go to the Super Bowl, then will turn around in the next breath to say that the Vikings, even with Favre, aren't the best team in their division.
He's a diva, but then once he's on the field, he's just a kid who loves to play the game.
He's one play from breaking down, then they marvel at his ability to make a throw.
Okay, I'm done commenting about that. Forever. My schism has been cured.
Now, about Percy Harvin. This is a serious issue, and yeah, it affects the football team, but we're talking about a young man with a quality of life issue, and I hope, that for his sake, he finds some relief for what is becoming a more serious issue by the day.
Many of you here at DN have given possible remedies for migraines, and those of us that suffer, or have suffered from them, know that what works for one person has no affect for another. What triggers a migraine in one person doesn't for someone else. The severity and length of migraines vary as well, and from the sound of it, Harvin's got the worst situation possible when i comes to onset, severity, and duration.
I have them, and with some good medicine and knowing what triggers them, I can pretty much avoid them. But my case isn't everybody else's case.
It sounds like Harvin and the team are doing everything they can to try and find a solution, and for Percy's sake, I hope they find something that will allow him to enjoy a pain free life, with or without football.
Good luck to you Percy, we're all hoping for a remedy for you.
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Don't mean to beat a dead horse....
google three words—- “migraine atlas orthogonality”
Percy, if you read this, you owe it to yourself to do so. To be blunt, doctors will not recommend this. Take care.
Each person is wired diff
What causes migranes in 1 doesnt mean will occur for others,and theres 100s of cures,each one caused by, differant things, which at times can be difficult determine the trigger.Could be a combo or just one,but once started depends,on situation and means to deal with it.Sometimes you can feel the warning signs,shutdown and stop it,others it hits you with a blinding force,that can shut you off from your surroundings leaving you pounding your head against the wall for new pain,to escape the pounding in your head for seconds.Harvin like many others who suffer,find cures each find there way from the pain.
As far as the schism aint one,except those who dont believe.
Um
there are not traditional “cures” as you say. There are medical treatments, usually involving medications, which, with all due respect, mask the cause. I am not sure we are “wired” all that differently. Other than unique DNA, our neurological/cervical systems are virtually identical. The bottom line—-it has worked, I know it has worked, and, if it is an avenue he has not gone down, he owes it to himself to look into it.
That pesky DNA
Funny how far “virtually identical” is from “exactly identical”. But I guess when you’re talking about things as small as Nucleic Acids, every little bit counts.
there are not traditional "cures" as you say.
For the record, when speed said “cures”, I believe they meant 100s of things that make the migraine stop (which can range from prescribed medication to chiropractics to dietary considerations). Obviously, for most people at least, migraine headaches are a chronic condition.
Noting like chiropractic..
… if you want non science-based medicine. The large majority of chiropractors are charlatans trying to create an “alternative” to science-based medicine (which actually works).
If Percy wants to run the risk of becoming a quadraplegic, or dead, with no hope of curing his migraines, then he should get his C1 adjusted by some quack chiropractor.
If I was in the Vikings organization and a player went to a chiropractor against the team’s instructions, I’d fine him or void his contract.
by HammeroftheGods on Aug 20, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Chiropractic has made my life much better
It may not help everyone..and there are quacks out there..but I have met medical docs that fit that category. Chiropractic has helped me in more ways than I can describe. Much of my pain has been eliminated because I have a good Chiropractor..dont crap on what you dont understand…you sound like an angry Packer fan telling everyone how Favre was never a great QB because he threw a lot of interceptions..
Well great...
… doesn’t mean chiropractic is a valid approach.
The only thing it has been demonstrated to do is help lower back pain. Beyond that, there is nothing it has been shown to be effective for.
Apart from that, when they try to treat asthma, the immune system, etc., it is pseudoscientific rubbish.
If you went there for back pain, then it might be it did you good.
by HammeroftheGods on Aug 21, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
The ONLY thing?
My wife, who worked for Dr. Simmons, was telling me a story about a man who was a patient back in 1992. He had suffered a stroke and was in a wheelchair. After a battery of initial treatments, he came in one day, walking with a cane. After a subsequent treatment, he came to the front desk to check out. He told her that he could feel his toes, something he could not do since the stroke, and, more importantly, he could not do when he walked in that DAY.
I could write more if you like hammerhead, about other patients if you like. If you continue to engage in your crap throwing, I will do so. Your rants will run out before I tell the stories. Want to do it?
Ok...
… so a person with a stroke has brain damage. And somehow adjusting his spine adjustment will apparently fix the brain damage now.
If you buy that you’ll buy anything.
People over time recover some abilities after stroke. That would happen even without spinal adjustments. Even if you do nothing your brain can adjust and recover some ability.
Brain damage like that, however, is permanent.
by HammeroftheGods on Aug 21, 2010 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
You....
have a distinct personality flaw, sir. It does not suit you as a “trained” scientist. The fact that you are threatened by the fact that someone may know a little more than you(be it other doctors, PHDs, etc.) threatens you. You should demostrate more curiosity, and a willingness to learn. Pompous arrogance is not suited for “science.”
Whatever...
… more ad hominem garbage.
I’m not threatened by other scientists, because I know that the small area I am expert in my own specialty doesn’t qualify me to be able to treat on other matters, like medicine, as a doctor does. I can’t even pretend to have more than superficial knowledge in my discipline that is outside of my special expertise. That doesn’t threaten me.
I know very little about medicine compared to a medical doctor. That doesn’t bother me at all.
I do, however, know enough about chiropractic to know it isn’t science, many of it’s treatments have never been verified or tested by scientific method, and it is hawked by its either unscrupulous or clueless practitioners.
If you want to have everything treated by a back rub, that is your business. If you believe in it, I’m know I’m not going to change your mind. I just hope other people don’t get sucked into this alternative medicine nonsense.
Like chiropractic, lots of people believe in faith healing, ghosts, vampires, alien abductions, psychics, voodoo shamans, and demonic possession. It doesn’t mean any of that stuff makes sense, just because people genuinely believe in it.
by HammeroftheGods on Aug 22, 2010 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm going to interject myself into your conversation again.
You two will definitely never agree on the chiropractic practice so don’t bother arguing anymore. The two things that I think you can both agree on are that science is really good but is not infallible. I don’t have much of an opinion on chiropractic treatment although I’ve heard both good and bad results from friends and family members.
Also not all alternative medicine is nonsense. In fact my family medical doctor has referred me directly to a Naturopathic doctor for dietary and acupuncture treatments for joint pain and acid-reflux when various prescriptions failed or produced adverse side-effects. The Naturopath was quite helpful with both issues and I no longer see him or have to take multiple prescriptions. I’ve also been told by more than one medical doctor that Physiotherapists have more in depth knowledge of the human skeletal and muscular systems than most general practitioners.
I’m guessing that physiotherapy has enough basis in science that you would believe in it to some extent. Physiotherapists believe proper alignment to be beneficial for many health problems. I’m not saying they use the same techniques as chiropractors but the hypothesis that proper alignment can benefit things ranging from joints to neural activity is fairly widespread among many disciplines of medicine including the scientific branch.
I think your problem stems from the fact that there are undertrained and underducated people performing medical treatments which is dangerous and a very valid concern. The other side of the coin is that there are some highly educated and well trained people that supplement and complement traditional medical science. The hard part is separating the good from the bad and often medical doctors are the best people to ask for advice when considering alternate treatments.
By the way I totally agree with you on global warming : )
by CanadianViking on Aug 22, 2010 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, to me the distinction is clear...
… between what I call “alternative” medicine and science-based medicine.
If someone can show acupuncture, or chiropractic, or whatever, can be used with benefit in a particular case, then fine. Mind you, it has to be shown with the usual scientific method. Then it is no longer “alternative”, it is science-based and on par with science-based medicine.
The problem I have is with treatments that have been either shown to have no value, or are based on pseudoscience, or have not been tested in the same way science-based medicine does.
If it has value, if there is worth, then a scientific test is going to demonstrate it. I would steer clear of people who don’t want to subject their “treatments” to scientific examination.
In short, if “alternative” equals “untested, unsubstantiated, or pseudoscientific”, then you only enter into it at your own risk.
The only thing I’ve ever found about chiropractors is there is consensus they are good for low back pain. By contrast, if you have a herniated disc or a serious problem, see a doctor who can fix it surgically rather than a chiropractor who can’t deal with it at all.
I don’t know anything about the claims or treatments of acupuncturists or naturopathic doctors, but I would feel the same way if they makes unverified claims. I’d be a skeptic, myself, until I learned more.
Bad doctors do exist, but even if you see a bad doctor, medical science is still a sound approach. Chiropractic can’t make that claim apart from treating lower back pain.
by HammeroftheGods on Aug 22, 2010 2:25 AM CDT up reply actions
I think the point is...
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
A picture is worth a thousand words...
or in this case a few thousand : )
by CanadianViking on Aug 22, 2010 2:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Why yes.......
there are thousands upon thousands of testimonials from people who rave about the success of the “spinal fusion.” Yes, I do remember reading those……..haven’t we all. Oh, wait, I know, the non-existence of testimonials also doesn’t prove anything, I get the game now.
I understand your point of view.
My examples of acupuncture and naturopathic treatments is that they are treatments not cures much like many prescriptions are treatments and not cures. Like traditional doctors they recommend diet and fitness and their treatments are primarily for pain relief and helping to improve the functions of your organs.
They don’t fix bones, stop bleeding, or perform any types of surgery. They complement regular physicians rather than compete with them. Acupuncture is a very simple concept. Needles placed at specific places stimulate the bodies pain responses which triggers your brain to release natural endorphins and chemicals to specific areas. Releasing those chemicals in a directed way opens up blockages and stimulates your body to heal itself as much as it can. Often people get great results at first but the effectiveness fades as your bodies blockages are cleared.
by CanadianViking on Aug 22, 2010 3:16 AM CDT up reply actions
You know.....
You are starting to sound “scientific”, well, at least I think so. Here is to your health! Isn’t that what it is all about anyway?
I promise, not one word during the game tomorrow, okay?
Thanks, and good health to you as well.
Getting back to football talk is a very good idea although I got a kick out of that massive argument : )
by CanadianViking on Aug 22, 2010 3:54 AM CDT up reply actions
I will...
bury you with REAL stories about REAL people, whose lives have been dramatically improved due to this treatment.
Are you two still going at it? Well duh, apparently.
Can we all just agree, that the two of you will never agree in a million years? please?
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
You are right....
I have moved past this discussion. I am trying to get the information to PH. Thanks.
Yeah sounds great...
… adjust the atlas even though there’s no reason to suspect it isn’t aligned properly. Great idea.
by HammeroftheGods on Aug 20, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Once again.......
That is why xrays are done. If it is not misaligned, they send you on your way. DO YOU GET IT YET!?!?!?!? They show you your xrays as well, show you the measurements, show you any evidence of vertebral subluxation. Change your name to hammer"head"ofthegods. Wow!!!
Oh yeah right...
The people who treat asthma, stomach problems, autism, and the immune system with spinal manipulations aren’t going to send someone away. They’ll give him spinal adjustments any time he wants them, for any reason he thinks he needs them.
Percy had xrays, if his atlas was misaligned, don’t you think the doctor can read the xray? I’m sure there is someone at the Mayo clinic who can read an xray, don’t you think?
by HammeroftheGods on Aug 20, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
If you would read.....
There are a specific battery of xrays that are done, so as to detect any misalignment. The most important one is where the patient looks up at the ceiling and opens his/her mouth wide. The xray is then taken from above. This is complemented by front, side, and rear xrays. But, I am sure you already KNEW THIS TOO, RIGHT????
And NO
A doctor, not trained in the SCIENCE, would not see it. Just like a cardiologist would not perform brain surgery.
Why
Do you continually argue a position that will most CERTAINLY do nothing to assist this young man? I have never said that it would. I have only offered it as a potential solution. You bring NOTHING!!!
That same argument...
.. is why people get taken in by “alternative” therapies, and head to Mexico or somewhere else where a doctor is allowed to treat and charge people for unproven therapies. If you are desperate and nothing else works, then go to someone who tells you what you want to hear.
I wonder how much money has been taken off of people with terminal illness following your logic? It might work, so why not?
by HammeroftheGods on Aug 20, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Once again...
.. ad hominem. Doesn’t qualify as an argument.
by HammeroftheGods on Aug 20, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Chiropractic isn't science...
.. by contrast, cardiology and neurology are science.
Doctors know as much about anatomy and reading an xray as a chiropractor.
by HammeroftheGods on Aug 20, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you see the clause....
in the sentence “a specific battery of xrays are done.”? Call your family doctor and ask him what type of xrays are done for the atlas orthogonal method? I would be curious what he says.
I'm not that curious...
… after he gets done rolling his eyes, I think I’ll get the point.
by HammeroftheGods on Aug 20, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
No
you are not curious. By definition, that is ignorance. So a disdainful eye-rolling influences you? Pathetic.
Yeah eye rolling would do it...
… when someone who knows far more about medical science than I do rolls their eyes, I would take notice.
by HammeroftheGods on Aug 21, 2010 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
last ditch effort--become a vegan
I love baked goods, ice cream, mac’n’cheese, and all that stuff, but if I was suffering from migraines the way Percy Harvin is, I would probably be desperate enough to try becoming a vegan vegetarian. Just typing that makes me cringe because it cuts out everything I love to eat, but I know someone who cut the amount of migraines and medications she had to take for them when she went vegan. With the way these migraines are impacting Harvin’s quality of life, it may be time to think about options like that. At least with dietary changes you don’t have to worry about side-effects the way you do with medications or how different medications might be interacting. Harvin’s already been dealing with migraines for a decade, I really hope he can find something that brings him some relief.
The English language was carefully, carefully cobbled together by three blind dudes and a German dictionary.
- Dave Kellett
He could still have seaweed pie
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
pretty much
I’ve had a lot of headaches but only one, maybe two that I would classify as being a migraine. If I was living with that kind of misery as often as Harvin is…well, it wouldn’t be easy, but I just might go vegan if it meant not vomiting and passing out on a regular basis.
The English language was carefully, carefully cobbled together by three blind dudes and a German dictionary.
- Dave Kellett
That's funny
My wife made me watch a documentary called, “The Beautiful Truth”, the other night and it talked about becoming a vegan and eating raw vegetables and raw veggie juice can actually help fight cancer cells. Maybe a vegan diet could also help with his problems.
I don’t know if I fully believe it, but I do know if I was diagnosed with cancer, I’d try anything. Obviously, chemo/radiation doesn’t always help, but I know I’d be desperate enough to change my diet completely if it meant living a quality and healthy life.
A friend told me about a woman who...
….was a very good athlete at something, I forget what and it doesn’t matter. Anyway, she started having problems and was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. She went into a funk for awhile, but then started keeping a diary of what she ate every day, and how the MS affected her the next few days. She eventually figured out what she should not be eating, and was able to return to her athleticism. Not a bad idea for all of us. Maybe burgers are OK (and lutefisk also) but cut out the bananas.
The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese in the trap.
Lutefisk is never...EVER...okay
Ever.
"Whoever said that the pen is mightier than the sword never encountered automatic weapons."
Hey Skol Girl. You may have the cure with that vegan idea.
My wife gets migraines from processed meats.
Hey Percy, lay off the brats.
by JethroBoViking on Aug 21, 2010 1:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Get well soon Percy!
I have never suffered from migraines and I pray I never have to. They sound like about the worst thing I can ever imagine going through. I don’t offer any solutions (as you say Ted, every person is different) and I believe it would be unfitting for me to offer them. All I can say is that I wish Percy well and will keep him in my prayers.
Medicinal THC
Seemed to be working for the man before… :D
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
So would the Vikings moving to LA help Percy out?
Since the state allows medicinal use of marijuana….. just sayin’ :)
Of course, Minny has gotten so liberal that if California does it, Minny will probably follow suit before too long.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
I'd rather they move to Nuevo Mexico for that ;-)
"We have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-from Bram Stoker's Dracula
Maybe Wisconsin will legalize it along with Purple Drank ???
NFL drug testing and Zigmund still have rules that wouldn’t allow it !!!
by gothicpurple on Aug 20, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I just saw this on the news tonight
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/health/Putting_Migraine_Patients_Back_in_Control_Dallas-Fort_Worth.html
Basically this involves inplants into the heads of the patients and some remote control that determines the amount of vibrations these inplants will produce. I think these vibrations “massage” the brain or blah blah blah. 90% success rate, I’m sure he has the money too. The problem is, I doubt he could live the football life with these things in his head, but it does provide for an interesting after-football life solution.
We all hope he can find a cure
The thing is, that hasn’t happened yet. He needs time away from the game, I think. Sadly, we probably won’t have him playing football this year.
Exactly
To rip off a phrase from Marshall McLuhan, the medium is the message.
The news is not the news just because they hold up a sign saying it is the news. The “news” needs to get attention, because attention attracts people to read advertising that advertisers are paying them to run.
When you are one of the lead dogs, other dogs will nip at your heals because they don’t want you to be ahead of them. Biased people say biased things in a blatant attempt to trip up their opponents. Yes, that would be you.
If a team seems to have few weaknesses, start a rumor based on some “unnamed” sources that they have a “secret” weakenss. The idea is to start a weakness where there was none by getting the players and fans to start arguing with one another.
If you can’t beat them, sucker punch them.
Don’t fall for it.
i an done
this is god damn ridiculous. I mean these bunch of ass hole are being payed a lot to sit on their asses and watch sports, do they really need to have a constant stream of bullshit leaving their mouths. I mean, come on. It has gotten to a point where i have no respect for some of these "reporters’’. Hell they have set the bar so low on reporting, anybody can do it. Let me give it a try, “this just in, fuck you shefter, fuck you silver and fuck espn” Money please!
I mean these bunch of ass hole are being payed a lot to sit on their asses and watch sports, do they really need to have a constant stream of bullshit leaving their mouths.
In one word? Yes
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin
by thewild_viking_twins on Aug 20, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I hate block quotes
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin
by thewild_viking_twins on Aug 20, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Thing is...
… I know exactly how you screwed that up. Because I’ve done that one myself. It’s actually kind of pleasing to the eye though and it still gets the “i’m quoting here” point across.
Like I needed another reason to hate diabetes.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 20, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
highlight the text you want to quote and then click the button
just preview the comment before you post.
No one is getting Rubio's rights unless they pry them from our cold dead fingers.
by TheEvilProfessor on Aug 20, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
just preview the comment before you post.
Thanks, bad time for me to forget the web design course I took :P
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin
by thewild_viking_twins on Aug 20, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, the reports irritate me too, but. . .
honestly. . . They’re probably more true than any of us want to admit. There probably was a schism last year, at least at the beginning of the season. I mean, Ray Edwards is a noted Jackson-fan. And I doubt some of the players were too appreciative of Favre sitting out two-a-days before they know how he’d do that season. And then, of course, we started winning, which cures everything, so the story blew over.
The Favre vs Childress thing isn’t new. We heard about it last year. The Bears game, where it seemed like Childress called plays the first half, and then Favre audibled the second. I mean, it’s out there, they’re just reporting on it. No reason to hate them so much.
It'll be the same as last year...
… win and it’s not an issue. Lose and it will be.
Like I needed another reason to hate diabetes.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 20, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Favre can change the plays any day in my book
honestly…I have had issues with Chilly’s playcalling in the past..but with Favre at the helm…all of the sudden the O clicks. It isnt just his mad skills. Obviously Chily is OK with this..the players are obviously ok with this..and I know the fans are OK with this…so..what is the problem? lmao at reporters trying to create “new” news.
Chilly was pissed
Refresh my memory wasn’t Chilly so pissed at Farve in a game for changing plays in a close game that he tried to take him out and Farve would not. I don’t know about you but it doesn’t sound like Chilly’s opinion is very respected.
Yeah, in the Carolina game. Honestly though, like maineviking said, Favre should be able to make the changes he wants.
by packallday555 on Aug 21, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree
Bringing Farve in for his 20 years experience he should be able to change plays that’s what makes him the player he is right now, certainly not his 40 time. No it’s just that this is the stuff that makes me believe the Farve thinks Chilly is a idiot stuff being reported this week
Not just Favre
Every QB. There was word that Brad Johnson was extremely frustrated here because Childress wouldn’t allow him to call audibles at the line.
Nice headline in your last sentence.
"this just in, fuck you shefter, fuck you silver and fuck espn"
I’d read that article for sure : )
by CanadianViking on Aug 20, 2010 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Annoying as heck
I think it is BS that Jason Cole and his four letter brethren can pass these stories off as fact. It is a sad day when I open my yahoo browser and see on the yahoo front page a story that is attempting to undermine my team by citing all unnamed sources.
The truly sad thing is they are just lighting the fire and the first time Favre and Chilly have a public disagreement it is going to be gasoline on fire. I say a quick start to the season is more important than ever…
On Percy, overall I think he will be fine, it is just an issue he is going to have to cope with.
How much of it is the readers fault too?
I mean that, here, a lot of readers are smart enough to pay attention to little disclaimers like “undisclosed sources” and realize what it means. Not all readers do that, though.
I’ve lost track of the number of people whom I’ve spoken to that cite Jon Stewart, Colbert, or SNL, as their sources for news and news analysis, without seeming to understand that those guys are COMEDIANS on COMEDY shows. Sheesh, they might as well admit their view of the world is shaped by Daffy Duck, Tom and Jerry, and Wile E. Coyote! The thing is, it never occurs to them that the little Comedy Central logo in the corner of the screen means something, they don’t pay attention to the details.
I think that if we, the readers/listeners, take a little more self-responsibility and start tuning out the irresponsible ‘reporters’ and the pro-active journalists who masquerade as reporters, maybe the loss of ratings/web site hits would send a message that would be understood.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
Train wreck syndrome
Youre right, if the readers would ignore the bull, journalists would have no choice but to became real journalists. Unfortunately that crap sells papers and attracts viewers. We as a society are beyond the point of no return when it comes to this.
"We have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-from Bram Stoker's Dracula
I understand your point.
The problem is partially the publics fault for accepting a lot of what they hear as truth regardless of source. The other problem is that media is more entertainment than factual reporting in North America these days. I follow a fair bit of American news and Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert play with facts and opinion about as much as some people on Fox or MSNBC do. The sad part is that they are comedians and that portions of legitimate news stations are doing less work on facts than they are. Our news in Canada is heading downhill the same way news in America has gone the last few years(more entertainment/opinion and less facts). I’m starting to follow BBC news as they still seem to do reporting the old boring correct way by bringing you facts and allowing you to form your own opinion.
By the way, love Colbert but it’s sad that truthiness applies to real news now as well as to his show: )
by CanadianViking on Aug 20, 2010 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
A lot of readers aren't smart enough
Or rather don’t care enough to notice things like unnamed sources, unless it was their team. The sports media just seems to be in a decline, and all this Favre stuff seems to illustrate that point very well. They manufacture all the drama surrounding him, and then they report on all the attention Favre is getting when they are the ones who are perpetuating it like they have no control over it.
As far as your second point, I would discount any television news program that says it is news. Television turns everything into the trivial. It’s about ratings, not about news. Stewart is popular because he is the most entertaining, and because he makes fun of the entire process, but that doesn’t mean he’s wrong or or that his points are suddenly invalid just because he’s a comedian.
Percy Harvin
This is not good……not good at all. It may be time for him to consider having a life after football. Migranes for “non contact” people can be unbearable, imagine what he’s going thru. Love his dedication, but at this point he needs to be smart and think about life after football. It’s not worth it if he ends up in bad shape.
by jjlovesfootball on Aug 20, 2010 10:29 AM CDT reply actions
LIES, LIES, LIES!
Favre & Chilly will kick some ass together in 2010!
I will be there in person to see some REVENGE on Sept 9th,2010!
Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!
Brett Favre will be back in 2010, Guaranteed!
Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLV, Guaranteed!
Great news Percy is back with the team Favre is very happy!
by cali viking on Aug 20, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
BRENT FAVOR
Will slay the Dragon and Angmor and recover the Holy Grail with his bare hands!
by Jepp The Viking on Aug 20, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
hope percy get's better for himself and the team sake
that’s pretty scary maybe take practice light for a few days and about the other thing it is about bad reporting and players also create a little bit of drama themselves.but there aint nothin wrong in our locker room seems to me everybody loves each other like brothers and they just want us to fail let’s prove them wrong!
The only time in my life when there is only one of me in my head ?
Even the Specialist couldn’t get the Monsters out of my head when it came their time to play their version of the Superbowl in my head !!!
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/20/former-favre-receiver-could-be-joining-the-vikings/
Javon Walker
one more year Brett Favre!
I wish Harvin a healthy life
I also wish all those other people who are suffering, but do not have millions of dollars and excellent medical treatment, to have a better chance at a healthy life as well.
Good luck, Percy Harvin. Even if you do not play football because of this, then I hope you find comfort off the field. The same goes for all players whenever their time comes to leave the game.
I know
Percy had a bulging disk in his neck late last year. What ever did come of that?
Favre: It's rare to ever see a QB be so indecisive, waffle...
It's also unlikely to have one start 19 consecutive seasons.
Or Maybe...
Lots of interesting suggestions out there, but maybe the young man needs to stop participating in a collision sport.
I love watching Harvin play, but not every body can handle the impact of the game. It seems pretty obvious that if he wasn’t such a great talent, his doctors would immediately suggest he stop running full speed into 280 lb players who are likewise moving at full speed in the opposite direction.
Well, technically
since he’s a WR, he’s not running into 280 pound players. Nobody’s safety/CB is going to weigh that much. So he has about 80 less pounds of momentum to worry about hitting him. <_< But I digress from your point.
Unfortunately, you may be on to something.
I can only think of 1 noteworthy player who suffered from migraines, Terrel Davis, not exactly a long and productive career. Someone please tell us we’re wrong… who are the big names who endured migraines at some point during their HOF careers?
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