Draft Picks Look Great in Shorts...Quarterbacks, uh...Not So Much
Monday saw continued greatness from future first ballot hall of famers Chris Cook and Chris DeGeare, and the exact opposite from the quarterback play. All of them. Except the starter, who's in Mississippi. Your Monday Wrap up/Tuesday Morning info after the jump.
First off, apologies for not posting anything sooner. I am in the process of moving the #1 Vikings fan in the world, my Dad, into an assisted living facility. Today, we had the ceremonial transfer of the Favre jersey and lucky Vikings hat, which were handled with the utmost care. Monday at Mankato highlights:
The draft picks are starting to make some noise. Chris Cook, who seemed destined for special teams and maybe a dime role, looks like he might be moving up the chart. He has been described as a prototypical press corner, and he's flashing his skills, picking off three passes so far. The other Chris, DeGeare, has made the most of his opportunity. With a minor injury to Joohn Sullivan, and Steve Hutchinson resting, DeGeare played well against the first team, and then beat Kevin Williams during individual line drills.
The quarterback play continues to suffer. I'm not trying to make excuses, but if these guys know that it doesn't matter how well they play, are they maybe going through the motions? TJ knows he's going to be the backup when Favre arrives, and Rosenfels has to know that he might be cut just as much for financial reasons as he might be for talent. This has to be in their head somewhat, and therefore distracting. I don't know for sure, but I'm looking for something here that might explain mediocre play. UNless, you know, they're mediocre. Because if they are, and Favre doesn't come back (which he is, but still) we're gooned.
Leslie Frazier insists Tyrell Johnson is still a starting safety, but Jamarca Sanford is 'providing competition', which is a subtle way of saying 'pick it up Tyrell, or you're sitting'. Good to see something being done to try and improve the backe end of the secondary.
Eric already mentioned earlier (as did Jon over st SBN Minnesota) that Cedric Griffin wouldn't play in the opener...which was kinda sorta contradicted by Chilly a little while later. He didn't flat out say the Ced would play, but don't count him out, either. If Griff is ready for the season opener, that's almost as remarkable a comeback as EJ Henderson's, especially when you're talking ACL and a cornerback.
That's about it for now, feel free to add anything in the comments that I might have missed.
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Regarding QB motivation...
of course they know that Favre will be starter when he shows up in a week or two, but that can’t possibly be a factor in their lackluster play.
For one thing, they know that every play is an audition for their next NFL gig, and if they screw it up too much, there might never be one. For another thing, they have to know that the far more likely outcome than beating Favre for the starter position is replacing him in a game (or more) due to injury. Kind of the understudy ballerina dream. (It sure worked for Brady.)
So they should still be competing at their top level, with each other for the backup spot, and also to show off what they’ve got. They’re nuts, or chronically unmotivated, if they don’t.
Is it football season yet?
That is exactly the problem with QB motivation. Their "leader" isn't leading . . .
“when he shows up in a week or two”
May as well say, “If he gets around to showing up.”
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Aug 3, 2010 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Toby, Toby, Toby, Toby.......
seeing the pic of the running backs chasing a tackle…. seeing Gerhart upright, with eyes on additional yardage, and the others……. falling forward……… yields the thought that …..
This Stanford player just might be the real deal!
What a stupendous draft pick.
I predicted the pick, and will enjoy his presence in the Vikings 50th Year. SKOL
I'd love to be proven wrong about DeGeare .
I admit that I too am getting energized about the progress of the young talent in camp . Qb’s need to step it up though ….A few bumps and bruises . But nobody sitting in front of the Judge or failing physicals . On his 18 lbs. loss Phat Pat seems too be aiming for a 99 score for Madden 2011’s swagger option . How can that line get any more dominate than what they already are ? We match up against several good run Defense units this year . Our D-line seems to play up for competition .
I’m getting more comfortable with the first six rds of picks . How are Shuler and D’Imperio doing ???
I have to take it all with a grain of salt
The QBs are being asked to force some throws to see what guys can do rather than dumping the ball off to avoid a sack or just if the WRs are covered.
Of course the DBs look good going against the backup WRs. With no Rice or Harvin they should do well.
But it is still practice. We takin bout practice!
Well see when they go to live hitting. The pads on thing is not a big difference because most of the guys wear very little pads below the waist. So they basically will be putting on football pants as opposed to shorts. The difference will be when the coaches give the green light to hit.
I cannot get too excited yet until Harvin is out there and Rice is out there along with Berrian, Shiancoe, & AP. That will change the balance of these practices I think.
But it is encouraging as it always is every year.
Somebody looks good, somebody looks bad, etc, etc.
When the hitting starts is when the men are separated from the boys!
The Vikings really need their starting QB there to get everything working. We know that is not going to happen but I have to believe it would help.
experience is priceless
what i think is very impressive is the balance and mix the front office has accumulated of youth and experience … while you can never replace the quality time that experience provides as the best teacher … we still need that feelin of immortality that comes with youth … the purple are a gr8 representation of both … the quality and talent of the experience of the purple speaks for itself with leadership by example … i think #56 is a freakin amazin human bein … and mr attitude #76 is simply the best that walks … as for “The A.W.W.E.some4some” it just doesnt get any better than that … question ? who is the best tackler in the NFL ? #26 hands down … and #74 is still my choice as walters aire-apparent(sp) as the best LT in the business (bigmac just let your playin do the talkin) also gotta giv props to the other bookend #71 … #81 has always been destined for gr8ness just wait and see same with #87 … now add to that the youth at the purple skill positions #28 / #12 / #18 dont forget #4 (the youngest of them all in his heart) … toss in some #31 / #32 / #33 / #72 / #97 … heck who you gonna cheer for this fall
MGR4FUN
The Missing-Mankato Blues
I can’t tell you how much I wish I was at Mankato snapping pictures and caging some mugshots with whoever will slow down long enough let me get a fanshot :) . But I totally understand that when your dad needs a hand, it takes top priority.
The caption for that Pat Williams pic could be, “Phat Pat says to Toby, ‘GET IN MY BELLY!’”, lolol! What an awesome dude!
DeGear being able to stonewall Kevin Williams, even once, is tremendously encouraging, especially out of that Center position! I mean, wow, if that’s more than a fluke, what an astounding pick he could develop into!
The performance of the backup QBs is disappointing… I think that if I were making as much money as they are, and I knew that competition was coming, that would be enough to motivate me to actually PRACTICE during the off-season. You know, so they could walk into camp with some decent accuracy and arm strength? I remember reading an interview with Tarkenton (lo these many moons ago :) ) and he told about some of the things he did in the off-season. He never had a really strong arm so he had to work extra hard to keep it in shape, and practiced during the off-season throwing the ball at tire-targets from his knees or while falling. I know this is just training camp, but it’s still disappointing.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
Some potentially disheartening news out of Mankato from Judd Zulgad's Twitter.
“Brett Favre began telling Vikings officials last night he will NOT return for a 20th season.”
“I’m told Favre has said his ankle has simply not responded and that is why he won’t be back.”
“There is a chance ownership will go back to Favre with an offer of more than 13 million for this season.”
“Keep in mind I’m hearing Vikings still feel the situation is fluid. As I said before, still time to talk him out of it.”
Let’s hope the FO can convince him to come back! I don’t care if he’s just wanting attention or playing a joke. Just get him back in purple!
by i_am_pure_barbarian on Aug 3, 2010 10:04 AM CDT reply actions
Purple uniform
not purple ankle
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin
by thewild_viking_twins on Aug 3, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Vikings soley
need this guy….. For a team built for a Superbowl or Bust…
They need this guy…. plain & simple…
Long ways to go until Sept. 9th
Still a month for the baby to heal to its fullest.
and Viking Nation puts the panic hats on....
Even while avoiding camp, Brett causes the biggest distraction ever in Mankato.
I don’t know for sure, but I’m looking for something here that might explain mediocre play. UNless, you know, they’re mediocre. Because if they are, and Favre doesn’t come back (which he is, but still) we’re gooned.
Ironic?
I have some confidence in Jackson… not much in Rosenfels. Maybe Webb in a year or two will step it up.
"Jaromir Jagr.... it's a POWER PLAY GOAL!"
- Sam Rosen
"Marian Gaborik.... it's a POWER PLAY GOAL!"
-Sam Rosen
We need to try & trade for somebody if Favre doesn’t come back. Simply put, it is “Super Bowl or bust”, and if we have to start any of the other 3 guys we have now, I’m 99.9% certain it’ll be “bust.”
Unfortunately, I’m not sure there’s anybody out there who could get the job done.
Please USC. Keep Lane Kiffin.

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