Strange Goings-On here at DN
This may get me in trouble, but I must speak out. There were two was one threads of discussion, one over 200 posts & the other at least ten, that have disappeared overnight, and I want to know who wiped them it out & what the justification was.
The larger one had a nasty exchange between one of the site admins and Saints fans in which there were eventually many, many posts (by DN Viking regulars as well as Saints visitors) that expressed the opinion that Gonzo had gone too far, posts which were getting up to 20 recs apiece. Based upon what I read in posts there before they were wiped out, there were also a flurry of bans from DN issued in a very short time.
EDIT: the second thread I talk about below reappeared sometime during the minutes I spent writing this post. Huh
The second thread (a fanpost) was from someone complaining about how slow the DN main page had been to load the last few weeks, the OP claimed it was around 60 seconds every time (for me it had not been quite so bad, 20-30 seconds, but still intolerable). There were maybe a dozen people replying to concur about the problem at the point I went to bed, and a number of recs for the fanpost had already "stickied" it to the top of the main page. There was absolutely nothing offensive or inflammatory in that fanpost or any of the replies that I saw, only politely worried statements of frustration. The only reason I can think of that it may have been purged was because I posted a workaround to solve the problem for firefox users, using a plugin to disable a very poorly performing script from running on the page. I'm conscious that the script I isolated to be the problem may be part of the backbone bringing advertising to this site, and I understand that the administrators might not want too many people doing what I've done, but ... on the other hand, they should not expect contributors to have to endure up to 60 second refreshes every time they go to the main page just so they can get their penny per refresh in the site's coffers. Furthermore, as people pointed out, DN was the only SBN site that seemed to have the issue, all others were loading fine, so it is not an SBNation issue, but a DN issue (perhaps it is because they all are running scripts sourcing from less than half the domains that DN does, and none of them appeared to be using the especially poorly perfoming domain script).
Perhaps there were other things purged too, but these were the two I immediately noticed, and they together comprised perhaps more than 250 comments that many of us here put time and thought into creating.
In summary, I am troubled by these developments, and I would like to politely - but firmly - request an explanation of what happened, and some kind of assurance that it won't continue to happen unless there is good reason, and that reason is a violation of some posted, clear statement of rules of conduct.
This FanPost was created by a registered user of The Daily Norseman, and does not necessarily reflect the views of the staff of the site. However, since this is a community, that view is no less important.
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slow home page...
is in the Rec’d section.
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Sep 1, 2010 9:08 AM CDT reply actions
Yep
Slow home page = rec section
Other post = into the ether, largely because it had outlived its usefulness.
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by Christopher Gates on Sep 1, 2010 9:51 AM CDT reply actions
Just curious, but could you respond to his exact request. Is something new afoot?
I would like to politely – but firmly – request an explanation of what happened, and some kind of assurance that it won’t continue to happen unless there is good reason, and that reason is a violation of some posted, clear statement of rules of conduct.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Sep 1, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
No, nothing new afoot
Just took it down, probably shouldn’t have been posted in the first place.
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by Christopher Gates on Sep 1, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Thank You, but
and some kind of assurance that it won’t continue to happen unless there is good reason, and that reason is a violation of some posted, clear statement of rules of conduct.
I kinda think that was the important part he wanted answered. I know it is what is important to me. Otherwise why waste my time posting at all if its just gonna disappear?
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by lifelongvike on Sep 1, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
No offense. I’m sure you’re a good guy, i don’t know anything about you, and i won’t let anything other people say color my image of you until I’ve seen otherwise. But instead of saying “outlived its usefulness” can’t you just admit you made a mistake in the tone and anger of your posting and say you’re sorry? Not to the Saints fans, or Sharper (who i admit doesn’t deserve it) but to your own bloggers at DN. You’re supposed to be, and need to be, their leader. Lead with respect.
Let me clarify
I still respect Gonzo. And I know that the frustration of that loss is probably a lot, lot harder to take for him than me, after all I’m just a “carpetbagger” of sorts, and … at the risk of getting too maudlin, but it does sincerely affect how I see this game … my dad passed away ten hours before kickoff of that game, so it is very easy for me to keep perspective that it was just a game.
You guys need to realize that this is a franchise that is 50 years old & has no championships, that it really did dominate you guys on all the stats except turnovers, that we have an “automatic” kicker from within 52 yards that was set to almost certainly “put a fork” in you, and that it was only an incredibly boneheaded assistant coach screwup, followed by a boneheaded decision by a QB that probably couldn’t think clearly because he’d been shot up with painkillers after being pummeled by you guys in a way that the league office itself recognized the next day with fines as inappropriate … it was only these things that kept the Vikings from still pulling out that game, despite the massive number of turnovers and missed ref calls (again, don’t act like that’s not true — the head of league officiating was on the NFL Network two days later and admitted there were bad calls that hurt the Vikings — you have no leg to stand on in denying we shouldn’t be frustrated with that). If you can’t see why all that together makes for a very frustrating situation for a longtime, passionate Vikings fan, like Chris clearly is, then I wonder if you are as passionate as him about football. Gonzo may arguably be a sore loser, OK. But some of you guys have egged him on, I’ve seen it, and to me a “sore, ingracious winner” is a far worse thign to be than a sore loser. I’m not saying all CSC posters are doing that, in fact I will say that I would be surprised if its been more than a couple. But there have definitely been a couple, and they should be ashamed.
Regarding my original question, I’m just trying to be constructive. There were a lot of good, reasonable, polite, interesting posts in that thread that people put thought and time into,and others showed their opinions of quality with recs (no, I’m not talking about my own, others were dong a great job so I didn’t have to say much). I actually I thought I even saw some “healing” gong on even between Vikings and Saints fans even. I just feel it is maybe a little more power than an admin should have to be able to delete posts on such a mass scale (>200 at once), and although this one is apparently done & maybe not possible to undo … I just want to try nip this practice in the bud before it can become too prevalent. This approach, to quote what people in the media use to describe the way to get around filibusters in the US Senate, is the “nuclear option” and should be used very, very, very sparingly, preferably not at all again.
by puddnhead on Sep 1, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
I get you 100 percent. Did the Saints DESERVE to win that game. Hell no. We got outplayed in every aspect. I’m a die-hard fan, but i admit we were outgunned in every aspect, and Favre made a bad call that cost the game. Did we have 2 penalties that should have been called…absolutely. You all have every right to be upset. At the same time you’re talking about a 50 year old franchise with no championships versus a 44 year old franchise that had no championships. You had been to the big game 4 times. Saints had won less than 4 playoff games in the history of the franchise. We were both star-crossed franchises, and not in a good way.
If we lost…i would have cheered my butt off for you guys in the championship. I did the same thing when we lost to the bears, they after all, were representing the Saints and all of the NFC. I’m not a sore winner. I’m not a sore loser. I wish people would just get along and share a handshake and a hug and move on to you guys flaming the Pack, and us flaming the Falcons like it should be. You’re a good guy Puddn. Hopefully after the 9th, people will stop the hating and just move on to trying to enjoy a wonderful sport. Best of luck to you in the future, and my condolences for the loss of your father.
by jeff.l.b on Sep 1, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
You're a good man puddnhead
And I very sorry about your father. I lost both of my parents to cancer within 19 months of each other. They were young, 65 and 61 My parents were both die hard fans like me, my mom and dad got to see the NFCCG against the bears in 06. She died in 07. My dad died a year before the Superbowl. So I know exactly what you’re going through.
And I agree wholeheartedly about frustration. You guys outgained us in stats in that game. Our offense was shut down that game the most I’ve seen in 4 years under Payton and Brees. And thinking back, we didn’t deserve to win that game. With 5 turnovers we should have scored alot more points, but we didn’t. There were bad calls, absolutely! There we’re late hits yes.
And I’ll be honest with you, that game was a nightmare,it was way too close and way too stressful. I should have died of a heart attack. Some games stats just don’t win. Look at 2008 when Brees passed for over 5,000 yds, no.1 offense no.1 in scoring 3 outta 4 years. We were 8-8 that year, last in our division. “Horrible Defense”.
There were times I was hateful, ugly and a troll and said very ugly things. I was one of the ingracious winners. And I chose a different way of thinking over a month ago.
That changed when my good viking fan friend Cali Viking got into one the ugliest arguments one night nearly a full page long. We were both wrong, But, I initiated it by reacting ugly to someone’s post and should have just let it go.
And me and Cali both apologized to each other and to the DN for the blowup. And something in me that night changed. I chose to get out of the drivers seat and not react hateful to others. I decided it was time for me to become a “Classy Saints Fan”. And I enjoy this route alot better.
And I thank my good friend Cali for bringing me back to earth that night helping me see the light differently.
I will say this: if the Vikings had made it to the Superbowl, there is no doubt in my mind they would have beaten the Colts worse.
I wish you guys the best this season, may the best team win Sept.9th whether it’s the Saints or the Vikings.
Jricky you are a classy saints and football fan and a true friend I wish more people and fans were like you good luck to you guys this season and may the best team win on the 9th good luck brother!!!
by cali viking on Sep 1, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Amen Cali!!
Now you’re talking brother!! Good luck to you guys as well! It’s going to be a crazy game and crazy season!! Now let’s play some football!!!!
Your post is emblematic of exactly why I jumped into this fray with the white flag waving, begging everyone to take deep breaths. The DN and CSC communites had a great, positive back and forth going back in January, the best I thought I’d seen the entire season with another team site. A lot of mutual respect all around. At the time I really appreciated the distraction at the time. I think we can have the same thing again going into this game. We just need the large majority of fans on both sides that are usually very responsible and pleasant (and that does include Chris, yes), to take a deep breath and not take the bait of the small minority on each side that tries to egg us on. I have my own issues just like that with another team site that I struggle with, so I know how hard it can be, and that is perhaps why I am reluctant to cast stones at others here who have that problem with you. But I think I’ve gotten that under control, so I am confident the responsible-but-sensitive-because-of-history people between our two sites eventually can get there, too.
(p.s. Thanks for the condolences, and mine to you as well. I don’t want to overstate my personal aspects of that day, because the death was expected, and we’d been having vigil for days, even weeks, and my dad had alzheimers, and the hardest part to take of his death had already happened years before. So my feelings that day were more relief than sadness, if that makes sense. He was already gone in many ways. If it doesn’t make sense, I sincerely hope you never are in a position where you do understand it, because its a weird feeling, and a terrible thing to watch)
It sure is puddinhead
I watched both of my parents suffer for 2 years getting eaten alive by cancer. It’s a very ugly disease to have and to watch your loved one’s suffer. It never leaves my mind but am learning to cope with it better. I had a tremendous amount of anger over it. And my folks would not want that for me.
Yeah, about that
See, I was about to and everything, but then I remembered there was a nice little Fan Post at CSC that decided it was okay to take shots at me personally, not to mention some commenters over there that felt the need to take shots at my family as well.
Do me a favor. . .go over there and try to make some demands about what stays up and what doesn’t or who should say what. See how far it gets you.
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by Christopher Gates on Sep 1, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
You can’t let A$$holes at CSC effect you as a person. Trolls are trolls, people should be above that. And to answer your question. I bring up stuff constantly to Dave about what should stay and what should go based on trolling and crap topics that are meant to get a rise. Dave generally listens when unbiased ears.
you are on a slippery slope.
jeff.l.b. Trolls are trolls, people should be above that.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
I really don’t get you at all. You seem to keep trying to flame me for saying people should get along and enjoy themselves. If you want to paint me as a troll and say I’m on a slippery slope because i try to have polite conversation and talk some Football….well…don’t really know how to respond to that. Again, best of luck to you guys. You’re a fun team to watch.
I'm enjoying myself and not really concerned with how you feel about me.
You may be a troll. You may not be a troll. All is good!
For me..
It’s the home-page… The outside surrounding content loads fine, but the Home-page Posts sometimes will not show up at all. I’ll hit refresh, and than they’ll eventually show up. If you hit FanPosts, there is no delay there.
I’ve nevr found the site to load slow, in fact, on a slow work connection, it seems to be one of the fastest loading sites. However, the Homepage postings posted by the Admins here seem to not show up sometimes unless you re-fresh.
Deek- We have a separate thread and fix.
Just click HERE
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Sep 1, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I should have replied to Gates
He was talking about the Slow Home-Page…
I was just trying to say that content wasn’t even showing up at all.
I thought that maybe this was related that what may be confused as fanposts being deleted were more-so a server glitch.
well, i obviously missed the whole darn hoopla....
probably cuz i have avoided any fanpost regarding the saints-viking thing for some time. but now this has me curious. i’d like to be able to read it, but if it got taken down. there was probably good reason to do so, regardless of how it all started. a solid explanation would help tho, imo.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
You and I both missed all the fun.
But even without reading all the flaming comments I think Puddnhead is bringing up an important issue.
Is there any agreement among the owners that posts and responses will NOT be taken down unless they violate some rule of the site?
I have reiterated the question to Chris Gates twice in above comments. He has failed to directly answer the question posed.
I suspect they don’t know the answer. The power is is their hands to put up and take down. Placing restrictions upon themselves probably does not sit well. It might be easier for them just to hope the issue goes away. But it an important question nevertheless and one I would truly liked answered.
Even if it is to tell me that they will do whatever they D**N well want to do.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Sep 1, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey Bro, I'll recreate it for you
It went just like this;
C.S.C. – YOU GUY’s SUCK
D.N. – NO, YOU GUY’s SUCK
by JethroBoViking on Sep 1, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thats not what Puddnhd is saying.
He is commenting that the issues were being discussed and that many good thoughts were destroyed. Somehow I think he wouldn’t have minded if it were the regular crap.
Of course it is impossible for us who didn’t read it to ever know.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Sep 1, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm with you.
I was just trying to make jethrophet laugh.
I missed alot of it and would like to read more too.
by JethroBoViking on Sep 1, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This same thing happened back with some lame racial slur . DN appeared to shy away from that hot topic at the time . It is easy to compare the two and wonder .
On this occasion I do believe their is no mad cnnection . We were all dealing wih the freeze up . I do remember others sites getting wiped or set to the side . Was it Deek who first brought up the Brett’s coming site . As the main Editors cast his post to the curb and stole his thunder . Chris even over rode Ted for a Pre-season chat .
INTEGRITY is earned not a privaledge gentlemen . If you can still try to maintainthat you are gentlemen . As you fight to take over the popular subjects . May I help you with a pattern I see . Try to post a hot topic as an Editor . Than sit back without an over bearing opinion . and let the discussion run it’s course . You try to hard to force the flow to suit your view . Your strenght in your writings should hold up in the innitial post . If not . You aren’t the gift to Journalism you thought you were . Let the bloggers hash out their differences . As you interfere . I at least feel you place yourself in a quite vulnerable eye to eye clash . As you know as an Editor we bloggers struggle to put up with your primadonna ways and bizarre rulings . But one on one you don’t hold up well . Some of us attended those games that you speak of and think you recall from a computer story . Or I was 25 when you were 10 and my view was less clouded in fantasy . The computer is a great tool . Rely too much on that tool and you lose the truth .
As Jethro says . The truth sucks . Having to deal with the truth sucks . But continuing to make the same mistakes ovr and over swallows . And after quite a few late chat sessions some of you have turned into some real good swallowers if you get my drift . I’m married . I’d prefer you to save that for the younger guys . You get a pass on this one . Yet I can easily see why INTEGRITY was in question once again .
I do believe that even the great sites will have INTEGRITY issue . It is how you deal with it that matter .
The greater heights we climb and the more posessions we collect along the way . Gives us that much further to fall from Grace with that much more to lose in the desent ……Words of Wisdom from Brother Gothic.
thanks jethrobo, a most eloquent summary i am sure :)
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
The NFCCG has created a bit of a rivalry here between not only the fanbases, but the teams as well. The selection of the Vikes-Saints game as the season opener only serves to further this rivalry.
Now in all my time as a Vikings fan, I have been in a rivalry with the Packers due to their close proximity. There is always a lot of good-natured ribbing and the occasional drunken jack-ass involved with fans of the opposing team. In a bar situation it rarely escalates past that point because the comments are rarely taken seriously.
It seems like on the interwebz, a lot of what would be considered "Ribbing" takes on a new form and becomes something completely different. Tone and demeanor are hard to convey in type, so even something as simple as a joke gets taken seriously and turns into something that makes us both look bad.
The reason why a rivalry is fun is that you have not only two teams against each other, but two fan-bases. You cannot have a rivalry where the two groups ignore each other, it just does not work.
Then again, you can’t have a rivalry that get’s too serious, otherwise you end up as a disservice to both teams.
Look, I come on these sites to talk football and occasionally throw a good-natured jab at an opposing fan. That is what makes football fun, having someone to root against. It satisfies a deep need we all have that stems from thousands of years of war.
Some people are going to take it too far, and we can’t get too worked up about it. If there is a post that crosses the line, it should be reported and deleted, but we cannot expect everyone to just play nice.
Besides, no matter how hard we try to be civil, there will always be some anonymous jackass who just wants to fan the flames.
bjorno says : It satisfies a deep need we all have that stems from thousands of years of war.
“the game serves a definate social purpose…in the future there will be no war, there will only be rollerball”
from one of my favorite movies.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
Saints fans online
Brett Favre has said he grew up a Saints fan. I know some Saints fans personally and they are really nice.
That said, there are many Saints fans online who come across as pure, utter jerks.
As a 40-year Vikes fan
I have as much reason as anyone to harbor resentment of that loss, but I don’t believe that’s what this is about. This is about some classless people getting under Gonzo’s skin, and his inability to shake THAT resentment. I certainly have no idea how I would feel in his shoes, and would not presume to suggest how he should conduct himself with regard to those feelings. However, as a Vikings fan, a DN fan, and a Gonzo fan… I am tired of seeing that resentment manifest into Saints-related flames and rants and venomous rationalizations. That’s what was originally posted the other night.
Although removal of the thread at least indicates some recognition of the unpopularity of those posts, it also smells of something highly undesirable. Best Vikings site on the web… damn right it has been, and we all deserve better than this.
Totally agree
Wouldn’t a great place to start be with Gonzo answering Puddnheads question?
I would like to politely – but firmly – request an explanation of what happened, and some kind of assurance that it won’t continue to happen unless there is good reason, and that reason is a violation of some posted, clear statement of rules of conduct.
Not just a one word answer but a complete entire answer to the question.
Really. Is it that hard to tell us what to expect in the future?
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
Honestly I think we sort of wandered off topic a bit
Yeah the game sucked, the aftermath was kinda fun.
but the real question I picked up out of Puds OP was what warrents a post being tossed? Is it when it’s to inflamatory (Like the Dallas sucks post) or personal (like the Everyone hates DC Purple post?) or because it has rude pictures on it (like the nude CryHavoc post).
Personally, I would keep em all on here for posterity so a year later we can point to them and laugh. Remember that time when Gonzo banned 37 Saints fans in like an hour HA HA HA HA HA!!!
Remember that time that LLV mispelled Celebrate and we all thought he was Ceibate?! HA HA HA HA!!!!
Wait am I wandering off point as well?
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
by Grime on Sep 1, 2010 1:01 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Recd
Gonzo- Please answer the question
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
I didn't missit. I lmao. But spelling it correctly would have made it better?
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
Is Ceibate
Norse spelling for some kind of chum like substance with the proper current spelling being: Sea Bait?
Or do you just hate “L’s”? Heh.
Football is easy if you're crazy as hell
The L word..
I’m hoping it’s about Lesbians.. And Sharks..
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
lol
thanks for the laugh. seriously.
Thinking about it more the thread delete, it’s probably for the best. As long as everyone moves on & looks forward to the Saints game positively — really, it should be a good one, and isn’t that what we all live for as football fans are great games — and we don’t look back to this ugly detour, except to maybe laugh about it later, like you say. We can probably still do that without actually having the thread still around though. Might have been hard to move around with that thread still around, and still growing. So … that’s water under the bridge, and dirty polluted water at that.
You hit the nail on the head though that the one constructive thing still to be gotten of all this is clarification of what is legitimate for a site admin to do. We may not get that, but … if nothing else, I think it’s at least been communicated & seconded that something like that is maybe going too far. So next time the option is considered, I bet there will at least be more pause before going ahead with it.
So your Ok with not having an answer to your question?
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
I'm going to take a different approach
You know, with everyone wanting me to be more “rational” and “understanding” and things of that nature.
As awesome as it would be for my job title to be “the guy that runs the best Minnesota Vikings site on the internet,” I have one of those crazy day jobs to go to. I arrived at my day job at 4 AM local time this morning (6 in the midwest). I have just now finished my shift, and am now waiting for an interview that I need to conduct that is related to my job.
Earlier, when I had a couple of minutes of spare time, I posted a couple of comments in here. Then, I resumed working. Like I said, I’ve been off shift for about five minutes, and have a couple more minutes to kill before my interview here.
Just from scanning the thread here, you’ve demanded an answer to this question six times in the last three hours.
To borrow a line from Seth Meyers. . .really? Really?
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by Christopher Gates on Sep 1, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for the response.
Since you directly responded to the first comment, where I asked the question I assumed you were watching the website. I asked you to please go further in your answer. It never occurred to me that you were unavailable. The last time we had a disagreement the subject was dropped. I mistakenly thought this was the same type of response. I do apologize for any bad assumptions on my part.
I appreciate the fact that you haven’t had the opportunity to answer. However, you now have responded and you deflected away from the question. In fact you artfully didn’t even say you had no time right now to answer the question. You gave us no indication that you will answer the question.
Look, I am not trying to be a dickhead here. I simply believe the question is important. If you do not then just say so. Tell me its none of my business or whatever you believe.
. Please feel free to answer whenever you have time.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
Hey Chris
Just want to say I read the original post and I had nothing against it. We all get fired up at times. I know I sure have. I believe we all have the option of removing a post we have written. I think if anything, this post should be taken down. I mean really, some people always think their views are the only correct ones.
You rock Gonzo!
"Skol pa fiskande"
I don't think we do have the option of removing a post we have written.
Cause I know I’ve said some dumb a$$ $hit on here I’d would’ve liked to remove.
well, that's not entirely true.
if you author a “fanpost”, then you can remove it yourself (along with all comments).
and, a looooong time back, during a fun saints-viking jibber-jabber. it started turning south, and i replied to a message in kind. then i asked gonzo if he would “please remove my last comment from the thread”….and it was gone in a few minutes.
point being, that you “never know til you ask”.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
So....
If I play nice and dont tell you how to run your site can I not get banned for a joke I apologized many times for……
by blackandgoldbuddha2 on Sep 1, 2010 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I am a realist. I have concluded it won’t be answered. I don’t think Gonzo has never ever directly responded to any post I’ve ever made here, before the second post in this thread (and that one was pretty brief). Well, any post after I “came out” in November and revealed I’m a crossover fan from the Packers. I don’t think I’m his kind of Viking fan. But maybe I’m wrong, and anyway I’m at peace with that even if it is true. If he doesn’t actually feel that way, others have been clearer that they do, and … that’s OK. No one is liked and appreciated by everyone :)
And I am a pragmatist. I believe merely asking the question & having others chime in has probably already achieved most of what I wanted, getting this power to be more sparingly used in the future. Getting a formal answer may not achieve much more, and the work to formulate one may just make everyone more irritable.
Well Gonzo replied to me and I believe when he has time he will
respond either with an answer or an Up Yours. Either way it is the start of conducive dialog. Worst case scenario we can all call up Dr. Phil and see where this family became disfunctional.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
In all reality this board is run much like a benign monarchy
There are no real hard and fast rules, we all sort of romp around and every once in a while (rarely) someone gets out of hand and we need to be pushed back in line (like herding cats coated in KY (don’t ask it’s a long weird and slightly depraved story)) . In the end it works and any mistakes we make can be dumped into the great electronic dust bin. I"m thinking sort of a Tron theme here, with the music and some strange guy in flourescent spandex throwing a frisbee at bad posts and looking for Mrs. King…
Anyway, the nice thing about my posts is that you can stop reading after the second sentence most likely everything worth reading has been said.
OH OH!!! How embarrasing would it be for the Lions to trounce the Bears in the opening?!
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
Benign Monarchy?
Like a benign tumor. Its harmless but you always know it is there.
This looks more like a pissed off Dictator. Which is fine. If that is what the site wants to be known for.
I’m just starting to feel a little miffed when Chris Gates creates the problem and then won’t answer a direct question, asked three times, about something that is important, to some of the members.
I see this site as a community. One that invites in its neighbors and fellow competitors. To invite in guests and then get drunk at your own party is not usually a good time for anyone. To throw your guest out after you get drunk does not cause good relations.
We can all live without seeing those friends again. However it would be nice to be able to invite them back.
But it is a reflection on the community when an event occurs. Those type of issues are worth discussing and not hiding under the rug.
I really would like Chris to directly answer, in detail, the question that was raised by Puddnhead.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
He was busy working, llv. See above. He still didn't answer. Maybe he will. Maybe he won't.
Life goes on…..and on….and on.
And so does the preseason. On and on and on
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
or because it has rude pictures on it (like the nude CryHavoc post).
I have never posted anything nude!
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
Didn't you?
DIDN’T YOU!!!!??
Oh well maybe you should then.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
No I didn't.
NO I DIDN’T!!!!
And I probably shouldn’t.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
i think i have a crush on your avatar
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
Actually she's 13 now, but was 11 in the movie. LOL
I put the vikings V on the front of her outfit and for another week that is Drew Brees reflection on her knife blade.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
Nice work, I didn't notice the reflection before.
by CanadianViking on Sep 2, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Nobody noticed it on the full sized one, either.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
I must be getting too subtle with my Photoshops.

"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
oh, i noticed the cool photoshop knife blade. that's the best part.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
Sweet work :)
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
She's 13 now, but was 11 in the movie. LOL
With that purple wig, I just had to put the Vikings V on the front of her outfit and for another week, that is Drew Brees reflection on her knife blade.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
didn't see the movie, saw the overbearing movie trailer campaign, tho.
she seems like a little scene stealer. and if she’s like twelve, she might think
i’d be a bit immature for her anyway ;).
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
She's definatly a scene stealer.
She curses like a sailor and slaughters bad guys by the dozens in a variety ways.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
yea, that's not crush material, that could be true love !
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
Are you sure you haven't seen it?
Because here’s a scene quoted from the movie
Todd: Yeah! I think I’m in love with her, dude.
Marty: She looks like she’s about 11 years old but…
Todd: I can wait! I solemnly vow to save myself for her.
Marty: I can see how that would be really difficult for you.
"What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
okay, now you are freaking me out.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
I talked to Drew
He is not willing to agree to this.
Football is easy if you're crazy as hell
by Grumps on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lets be honest..
If Chris decided to take down a posting due to some of the comments getting out of hand, woudl you really blame him for removing it? Heated debates can sometimes leave people w/ extra anger. Not only that, it leaves a very negative view from outside participants. If I was to say a new member of DN and saw the online fighting going back and forth, I may not want to step foot in here as a member anytime soon. I believe Gates wants to show that he wants the DN nation to represent itself with class, and avoid any issues. This is the time of the year where we may find ourselves getting new members. It was about this time last year I started to poke my head around here. I started off as a lurker, but soon become a regular visitor leaving comments. I since than followed in the off-season….. Some of us take long periods of breaks in the off-season, but, I tried to stay around… Following everything from the pre-draft, draft, and post-draft…. Its been a somewhat fun off-season… And now that traffic is building up, this place will be even more fun to visit… Let’s keep the drama aside and focus on what really matters here. The Vikings and their hope for success..
I somewhat agree . Most iron themselves out and bring about other topics more releveant . Not an easy one to call for the man with little hair as it is .
Aint that right Chris . I’m guessing Gonzo has flowing hair down to his Barbarian ass though ….
Censoring
When Censorship occurs it most times isnt a good thing,because that means Someone has put their Views and Values ahead of others.I too also missed this post and wonder now if we can post freely our own Thoughts and Views,This can be a very slippery slope to tread on.
Gonzo,loved this site when you was trying hit 250k posts love it now, I am sure somewhere theres a good reason for whatever happened. I believe what everyone is looking for is the Why,you most times at least post a reason with a pretty good answer as to why.This site became what it is now because you used to keep your feet on the ground,and I can remember many times you juggled work,family sleep to keep this up and running.Free speech is a good thing,Dictatorship not so good thing,bring those feet back to the ground Gonzo and lets all continue this journey this year together.
by speedlod on Sep 1, 2010 3:14 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't consider Gonzo taking down a post he wrote censorship.
He wrote a post about a couple of Saints players and some comments they had said and wondered how the Saints fans would respond. All he received was bashing from everyone, so he took the post down. I for one do not have a problem with that.
"Skol pa fiskande"
IF
It was only his post that was deleted then no that is not censorship,but if you ask a question and dont like the answers it becomes cenorship when it is all deleted.Theres a disclaimer that the Views posted are not DNs or its editor or affiliates,but it is a View none the less.Reminds me of that Saying,When the Jews was being prosucuted I did nothing because I am not Jewish,when the… ETC you get the point,by the time it gets around to you,your all thats left.Like I said its a slippery slope to tread on once your feet get wet.
This is a very individual matter.
Speedlod you are correct, I think, in that you believe all of the voices should be heard.
But I respect the fact that I don’t own this site or have a right to this site, or have any control over it. Whether its censorship or not is not the issue.
Whether we as individuals want to contribute information to the site, read the contents of the site, or use the site in any manner is all we control. The entire reason Puddnhead posted this article was to find out if ,indeed, there are any rules that apply to management. Once the rules are known each individual can make his or her individual choice.It really is that simple.
Management has told us that they are busy and have asked that we give them time to respond. I certainly think that Gonzo deserves that. He has earned that concession. Although a quick response would be nice, he should take the time needed to give us a thorough response if we are to grow together as a significant blog.
But the issue of censorship is really not in play here.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
oh well
Gonzo has taken down post b4.. most likely will again, as he sees fit… He has also not responded when called out b4, most likely will again..Guess it is his site and he can do as he pleases
That might all be true.
But the question remains individual to you as to whether you like those rules or not. I would miss your banter if you decided that this site didn’t deserve your input.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
You answered it in a nutshell . " That might allbe TRUE ".....BUT !!!!!!!
The truth always takes a backseat to primadonna’s that run this Circus . Rules are governing bodies to all . What you are referring to are subjective decisions . Would Gonzo ban Ted after a tirade of F bombs and insults . NO ! Don’t call the subjective Policing rules . It is degrading to yourself and to DN . You do mean our imput as long as you attempt to put it in it’s place . What happens when you don’t have a place that can keep out INTEGRITY .
Just one of the many components of INTEGRITY is to always seek the truth . To dismiss the truth . In the company of grown men and women . As you have just done . Brings you to the root of this subject . I do believe that computer error over profesional curtousy is the case on this particular site . But your lack of silver finger tips have you fumbling into a dark damp hole you won’t be able totype your way out of …. Quit while you are down and bloody . You don’t have much in the purse to fight over anyway girlfriend …
Mr. Gates is in the unenviable position of being a fan as well as an administrator.
When he engages rival fans in trash-talk he ends up becoming a target by those fans and things tend to escalate. I don’t presume to know how he can best handle these situations other than to ignore those fans if possible, and when banning them do so without a comment saying that he’s banned them as that seems to egg on people to take personal shots at him.
That being said, Gonzo is a good writer and runs a very good site that I appreciate being able to use. This site is kind of his baby by now and he probably has a hard time standing aside when people get out of line even though silence might be his best weapon against those who get his temper going.
I hate giving you advice on your own blog, but my intentions are good. Nobody should have to endure personal attacks like you’ve had to put up with but maybe speaking softly and carrying a big stick(ban-hammer) might save you a little grief Gonzo : )
Well, here's your explanation
You know, I sat down and thought about it last night, and finally came to the conclusion that what I had done was wrong. Completely, totally, 100% wrong. Because what I said was very, very mean and very, very hurtful to a lot of people.
See, I learned something yesterday. . .despite doing this for four years, and building up a large enough audience and a successful enough site that I was asked to be the lead person behind SBNation’s regional site for Minnesota sports, I have obviously been going about this all wrong.
Displaying any sort of emotion, be it positive or negative, about one’s favorite football team is wrong. It’s wrong because it could potentially offend someone. . .someone who, in all likelihood, is better than you for no discernible reason other than the fact that they watched their football team win a big, shiny trophy from thousands of miles away, while your team has never gotten that pleasure.
Now, I certainly don’t want to offend anyone. After all, when a coach says that their goal on defense is to make sure that a player “doesn’t get back up again” or a player talks about what part of an opposing player’s body they’re going to target, all that really means is that they want to play really, really, super duper hard out there on the field. It’s totally my fault for not catching that tiny nuance. Completely my bad.
And if a guy makes a joke about a guy that collapses on the practice field, shouldn’t we all just smile and have a good chuckle along with them? Maybe throw in a little something like “Yeah, that guy collapsed faster than the Vikings did in the NFC Championship Game” or something? (Or, if you’re feeling a little “edgy,” throw in a reference to the 35W bridge.) It’s all good in the hood! After all, we all know that Minnesotans. . .and, really, pretty much anyone from north of the Mason-Dixon line. . .has never experienced any sort of “real” tragedy or anything. Why shouldn’t we crack jokes?
No, no. . .I was mean and potentially offensive, and that was the wrong thing for me to do. Rather than get excited when my team wins or bummed out when my team loses, my main goal should be to make sure that no fan of any of the 31 other NFL teams could potentially be offended by anything I have to say.
And, you know, if some brave soul wants to take the time to sit behind a keyboard and a monitor and take shots at my wife because I have the sheer audacity to cheer for a different football team. . .like the honorable and esteemed “bigbaddon” did over at CSC. . .well, hey, no biggie. I’m sure she deserves it. . .after all, she’s married to me. That makes her a prime target, and if she doesn’t like that, I suppose she should have known better. In fact, I’m going to go so far as to undo the bans that I did in the thread last night, just to show those poor, misunderstood people that they way they acted is right, and what I did was wrong.
And, really. . .that’s what it’s all about. Emotions have absolutely no place on a football blog.
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by Christopher Gates on Sep 1, 2010 8:17 PM CDT reply actions 6 recs
Mr gates
Will I ever be forgiven for my bad joke?…
by blackandgoldbuddha2 on Sep 1, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Certainly
Making fun of guys that collapse on the field that could have died should be the norm, not the exception.
Shine on, you crazy diamond.
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by Christopher Gates on Sep 1, 2010 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Funny how many....
other members of this site forgave me and understood I was wrong told me have more class and I agreed….but you seem to be unintersted in my repeated explanations and remorse. I think you are angry about much more as I did wish percy well in my original bad joke post ….which I posted after espn reported percy was instable condition and was fine…..I said a player collapsing was scary…..I also asked if he could be suffer from something more serious
I know all I will get is another smart remark and you ignoring my apologies it ok I see I am wasting my time…but I wont be shut up and banned after I tried very hard to express my sincere remorse and mend the fence I unwittingly kicked down….
I see you are uninterested in a truce about my statment but you enjoy using it to fan the flames…
by blackandgoldbuddha2 on Sep 1, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
You're right about that
I see you are uninterested in a truce about my statment
I’m really not.
At the risk of sounding offensive. . .and lord KNOWS I don’t want to sound offensive. . .but it would appear that this could be filed not so much under “I’m sorry for what I said” as much as it could be filed under “I’m sorry that a bunch of people on a Minnesota Vikings website had the nerve to take offense to me making a joke about one of their players collapsing on the practice field.”
My deepest, sincerest apologies for not buying what you’re selling. Or shoveling. Whichever.
SBNation Minnesota - For the greatest sports fans in the world.
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by Christopher Gates on Sep 1, 2010 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
No you are incorrect sir
I really did take a look at what I was joking about abd realized I had crossed a line….I forgot about K. Stringers death and once i had been made aware. After some back and forth I understood the depth of what I had done. I didnt care that a bunch of fans called me out they were right to do that. Many of you all claimed this was a classy site and I should be represent saints fan with class and I agreed.
I saw a classless post buy you I called you out and I got banned….you dont have have buy what im selling but one look at the percy harvin theard shows my remorse…
No truce is fine but I will voice my opinion respectfully …and if you ban me I will just sign up again. I enjoy this site the hate for the saints means we’ve made and I enjoy that….
by blackandgoldbuddha2 on Sep 1, 2010 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
So does this pretty well sum up your attitude?

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by Christopher Gates on Sep 2, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow
Just what the heck are you talking about…..lol….
by blackandgoldbuddha2 on Sep 2, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't have a dog in this fight
But you don’t seem to get it. Editors and site admins DO hold themselves to a higher standard on the other SB Nation sites. That is not to say they cannot show emotion, its that their emotion is restrained to avoid pissing matches like what’s gone on now.
Did some people say things that went over the line? Yes. Every other site I’ve seen would’ve given those folks a warning, and when they didn’t heed that warning, lay down the ban hammer right there. You are in a position of responsibility. It’s your job to act as the responsible party. Your response to comments on your post instead was inviting a flame war, in my (and several other neutral parties) opinion. An admin should be extinguishing flame wars, not participating in them.
You can do as you want, because you obviously have the power to do so. But the manner in which you run this site is worlds apart different than any other SB Nation site I’ve been on. You are supposed to be the parent among a huge group of kids. If one of those kids throws food at you, you don’t throw food back, you ground them and send them to their room.
by Danwood on Sep 1, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
And an even better reaction
When someone throws food at you is to give them milk and cookies as a reward.
That’s the route we’re taking here now. . .kinder, gentler, more sensitive and such. I think it’s really going to be a big hit.
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by Christopher Gates on Sep 1, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha you must have never been to blogging the boys
He’s a much better blogger then that guy although i’m still partial to our Dave at csc no offense
World Champions at last
by mississippisaintsfan on Sep 1, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
First , most other sites don't do well . Second , rules should govern all in a fair and balanced way .
And not in a FOX News fair and balanced way like we see here at DN !!!
by gothicpurple on Sep 1, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
This is staggering in its utter lack of insight and self-examination.
Congratulations, I guess.
BCB free since 8/24/10 and happier for it.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 2, 2010 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Why in world would anyone recommend this pathetic rationalization and justification?!
I’m really not sure which is most absent in your thinking… maturity or class, but it’s clearly plenty of both.
I guess I'm the broken record
I loved the sarcasm. It was a great read. And I do appreciate that you answered the first part of Puddnheads question.
I would like to politely – but firmly – request an explanation of what happened,
I thought you had done that yesterday but your answer above should clear that matter up for all concerned. I think I can say that most of us here at DN had no issues with the way you handled banning members, ect. And I for one think that is a decision that you and your staff must handle in your own way.
But several of us had real concerns over the second part ( the most important part) of the Posters question.
and some kind of assurance that it won’t continue to happen unless there is good reason, and that reason is a violation of some posted, clear statement of rules of conduct.
So for those of us that respect the site, that try to maintain integrity, that try to be a viable part of the community I again request an answer. Can you give me assurance that the work I and many others put into this community won’t be taken down without a clear violation of the rules?
Is the work and effort put into this site, by members, valuable enough to DN that the authors deserve enough credit not to have their work disappear on a whim?
Again, it is alright with me if the answer is a resounding NO. That the work is not respected, appreciated, or wanted. But the fact that this question has been avoided is concerning at best.
I would guess that if I were in your shoes I would have concentrated on the first question, also. Steam would be billowing from my ears if someone attacked people in my family.
Hopefully you will have some time to reread the comments and requests and see that this is not an attack on you but rather a question concerning your members that support the Vikings and DN.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
This comment is a reply to the original fanpost, but it doesn’t address anything I said. You are still talking about the specific content of the deleted thread, which I never even asked for further explanation of (nor did I desire it — if you really still want that discussion to continue, why did you delete the thread it was going on it?) I asked what the criteria are for deleting posts and comments, which I was not addressed. So I’ll assume that you were trying to reply to someone else and click the wrong reply link, as all of us do at times.
Once again you show humility for about a short paragraph and a half .
You always speak of DN as your precious baby . Married or unmarried thats your fantasy . Well we come to this site to tap on that baby of yours daily . Somethimes to get out frustration . Other times cause we are simply bored . But you don’t see your baby like we see your baby beneith the sheets if you know what I mean ?? She isn’t this innocent naive little morsel as you remember her to be . You make her loose . Ted gives her the language of a sailor . And LLV gets drounded out with the repetitive banging of her head on the unpadded headboard . Now she is so easy . The former Pack fans gave up on boys and have gone back to girls cause she is that theraputical . Who was the first to tap that first cherry . I’m guessing it was you daddy . But that was so long ago . You remember it but I doubt if she does . When you look at her in the mirror you see that innocents each and every time . I just get an itch in my groin . Tap in my special code and …. Then she . Your beloved DN looks in the mirror and what does she see ?
I thought you would appreciate the daughter approach . Great timing huh . Do you even recall High School . Granny , MOM , Sister , Daughters , Cousins they all are banter 101 . Real men are not offended by this . Hell don’t even know if you have a daughter . And being a military guy MRS. Gonzo could be a he . We don’t know or care . If football is your passion than focus on that . Hell . The Mrs. can get her own damn Call Sign and hold her own damn opinion . Please consider in all humbleness . Aside from my X rated analogy of DN . That when you reply to comments . Like in the Mosh pits of my younger days . Those who chose to leave the relative security of the ground . To surf the crowd . Up their there are no rules . That is suppose to be known well before you attempt it . If someone reaches in you wife’s pants or goes home with her bra . Dude that’s just the rules of the Moshers . I don’t make the rules . They are established long ago . And you won’t change them either no matter how long you are here .
Keep surfin ’ brother . But don’t go home pissed because the kids are idiots . It’s you that forgot what freedom really is !!! It’s not just what you think your protecting at the end of your gun barrel ! No . Disrespect intended .
Surprised
I am surprised by the amount of peoplr that allow a game. Get them so frazzled? Really? Like the guy that is sooooooo upset that you are not driving 120Mph in the left lane. And he is stuck behind you traveling 79 in a 55Mph zone. He is sooooo upset. In fact, he actually alters his current agenda and follows you home? Oh yes, this happened to me recently.
This guy, actually followed me to my doorstep, or the door I approached in anticipation that this absolute “Freak of Nature” followed me to my place of residence. He ran up to me shreaking about my driving. Now, I am 36 yrs young, with a checkered past. I am a big dude. Not NFL lineman big, but definatley tight end large. This little fukr ran off at the 1st motion of me defending my turf.
Point of my story you ask? Well. Not far different from the guy that freaks out on the road….are fans that let a football game make or break their happiness….not even players ob the field get their panties in a bunch over the game & they if anyone have a right to be upset. It wasn’t until 1998 that I completely let it go emotionally……I have come to realize that if your happiness is dictated by a Vikings win or loss? There are a lot of fuckers I have to watch out for on the road!
SKOL
by PURPLEPUSSYEATER on Sep 1, 2010 10:52 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I HAVE A NEW THEORY....IT'S A GOOD 'OL CONSPIRACY THEORY...
GONZO JUST WANTED TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF HITS ON THE SITE !!!
WE’VE BEEN DUPED BY OUR OWN ‘GOVERNMENT’…..AGAIN.
jay slash kay.
in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.
It is already at 120 and counting . Gonzo like ESPN seems to endorse the hater angle to sell his product .
Oh . and it seems to be a great way to have a topic that GreenBay fans will run and hide from ..go figure .
any publicty is good publicity
isnt that what they say
World Champions at last
by mississippisaintsfan on Sep 2, 2010 6:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah but this is not good.
The answer was not an answer and was blatantly an attack. i have in the past called people out when an argument goes past the bounds of good taste and starts becoming personal.
If someone yells obscenities at you, ignore them if they continue to do it ban them. There is no reason to reduce yourself to their level at all. I hope that in my time on this site I havn’t and I would appreciate it if fellow fans would act in the same fashion. When they don’t we as their peers should try and help them remember that they are adults and act accordingly.
Personal attacks should never be a part of any site and as a moderator you have to understand this. You just made a personal attack, I don’t appreciate it and it wasn’t even pushed at me. If you don’t appreciate my view point on this I respect that. You can either email me your issues, blast me on them in your site or ban me.
The site is great let’s all keep it that way.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
More like . Wannabe Divas see negative attention and positive attention as the same . No matter who they trash or how slutty they end up looking . As long as the spotlight is on them .
Did Gonzo pick Tuesday like Brett does ? To maximize his potential for his journalistic groaping session !
by gothicpurple on Sep 2, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey PAD555 can I borrow your right hand to reach around Chris and give Gonzo jr. a little tug love . The green and mold that rubs off will bring him back to the days in bootcamp . Before the Mrs . .
by gothicpurple on Sep 2, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks buddy . I owe ya ......Rock on Packer dude .
by gothicpurple on Sep 2, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Dude..
When you die, please donate your brain to science.. I really want to know what makes that thing TICK!!!
What would b the point for Ozzy?
Does that guy even have a living brain cell???
Sorry, thought the Ozzy study was common knowledge:
Geneticists are to map Ozzy Osbourne’s human genome to discover how a man infamous for abusing his body was able to survive decades of alcohol and drugs.
Now in his 60s, no-one is more surprised than Ozzy that his body was able to cope with the stresses of virtually constant substance abuse. The singer described himself as a "medical miracle" after going on an epic 40 year bender.
Now scientific interest has been piqued to discover whether Ozzy’s incredible resilience is genetic. Using a sample of Ozzy’s blood, US company Knome will spend three months of research to map the DNA of the Black Sabbath frontman. At $40,000 (£27,000) the research is not cheap, but the company believe that analysing extraordinary human beings is the key to progressing medical science.
Sorry them Jolly Ranchers are too hard on my teeth . I'm a salt and not a sugar kinda guy . Never been drunk or high .
The only thing Purple drank ever did good for me is get me kicked off of APC . One day I referenced the LIST . A list of Packer names that Jolly will be required to divolge When and not if he goes to a Federal trial at a later date for crossing boarders with the Mary Jane ,cocaine and codiene . They at APC said I was bringing up a year old dead story thatb can’t effect the Packers in any way . Then . Pow ! The Cheesedom crumbled before my feet in the next few days and me and Jolly got the Axe about the same day . Hell they even accused me of firing the shots at Lambeau Field . An honor indeed but utter rubbish in truth . And that stukk makes you fat . And I’m only Santa to Gonzo .
by gothicpurple on Sep 2, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I love the pease and serenity that follows each and every dark vision I offer to the Purple Editors .
They truely see how harmless a little humor mixed with between the lines realism tastes .
Damn people it's a blog
Get your head to football.. FOOTBALL not bashing each other. FOOTBALL. GESH!
☠★☪My dream, is to see the Minnesota Vi♛s win a superbowl. USA- the land were dreams come true. ☀ ツ This is our ۩۩house۩
by UnBannedVikingholic on Sep 2, 2010 2:52 PM CDT reply actions
I know, right?
Feels like a bunch of tweens arguing about team Jacob or team Edwards…. Or, a bunch of tweens freaking out over Hannah Montana or Justin Beiber..
This is a sporst blog for crying out loud. Act like grown men and drop the drama… This ain’t h.s. no more…
lol
you are the one that even knows what the hell “team jacob” and “team edwards” are … not me! I take it from your tone its some kind of tweener thing. Be careful what you inadvertently reveal about yourself here! ;)
GO JACOB!!!
Hell I’m on team Alice and Rosalie… You can throw in Esme for fun. What can I say I like powder puff football! :D Let’s see I have a tightend and a wide receiver. I think my team wins!
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

























