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Stock Market Report, Week 3

Julian Peterson foolishly tries to catch Adrian Peterson as he applies afterburner and accelerates to Mach 1.  Ryan Cook smartly ducks down to prevent being burned by the jet exhaust.  Silly, silly Julian Peterson.

Wooo!!!!  WOOOOOOOOO!!!!  Wow, that first win seemed as elusive as sobriety for Lindsay Lohan, didn't it?  Hey, a win is a win is a win, so we'll take it.  1-2 isn't the best spot to be in, but it's a lot better than 0-3, to be sure.  The Vikings didn't play their best game, and it seemed like they had about 307 penalties called against them, with 306 of those at the most inopportune times.  Overall though, I think it's safe to say that the Stock Market Report looks a little better today after the Sunday Rally.

This week, the 'experts' will probably make the Vikings 2.5 point 'dogs on the road at the bye, followed by a trip to the Flying Sopranos.  When the schedule first came out I thought the bye came way too early, but it's actually turned out to be a blessing in disguise.  It will give the team a break to rest what ails them, and allow Favre an extra week with his receivers.

So we approach the bye week with relief, and anticipation.  The passing game is getting there, the run game is money, and special teams looks better each week.  At least collectively, our Beloved Purple aren't shooting themselves in the face with a watermelon anymore.


Ultimate.  Slingshot Fail.  Ever.  Stock Market Report, after the jump.

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Blue Chip Stocks

Adrian Peterson, RB.  Can I just leave him up here every week?  His fumbling problems seem to be behind him, as he has yet to so much as juggle the ball this season, much less put it on the ground.  Oh, and defenses have been trying, no doubt.  And his 80 yard back breaker was Adrian Peterson in a nutshell--vision, power, burst to daylight, and runaway speed, all in one spectacular play.  Enjoy this kid and his talent, boys and girls, because it only comes around once in a generation.

Defense.  Can I leave these guys up here, too?  Once again the defense pitched a near shutout, and only gave up a touchdown after they were put on a short field by the offense due to a turnover.  Speaking of turnovers, the defense got a couple of picks, both on the goal line to thwart Detroit scoring drives.  Ben Leber is one of the most under rated linebackers in the NFL, and he's a smart veteran who is rarely out of position.  Jahvid Best went off last week, but was brought back to earth this week, and although Calvin Johnson had 6 catches, they held him to under 10 yards a reception and kept him out of the end zone, a very impressive showing.  The defense is tackling well, the run defense was back to it's usual dominance yesterday, and they got off the field on third down.  A truly impressive performance so far this season, and they will need to pick it up in New Jersey next week. 

Chris Kluwe, P.  Kluwe routinely put the Lions inside the 20 all day, and when you do that, you really limit their ability to win the game, or anyone's ability, for that matter.  Opposing offenses aren't routinely going to go 80+ yards on the Vikings defense, and if Kluwe can continue to flip the field position for the opponent, it gives the Vikes a better chance to win.  But Kluwe is as only good as his punt coverage team, and they have been stellar so far this season. 

Sound Investments:

Percy Harvin, WR.  Percy seems to be coming out of his early season slump.  His kickoff returns aren't back to the 'ooh' level they were last season, but he's making plays in space as a WR and had a beautiful TD catch yesterday.  He made several defensive backs miss, getting some good YAC, and the Vikes finally went to the 'let's use Percy as a running back' page of the playbook.  I think they did it twice, and both were called back on a penalty, but hey, it's a start.  Most importantly, the hip injury didn't seem to limit him, and because of that he had a more expanded role in the offense.  Very good signs indeed for an offense that needs his explosiveness as they enter a brutal part of the schedule.

Chad Greenway, LB.  Greenway is just a fundamentally sound player.  He can be overmatched in pass coverage against the better TE's in the league, but that seems to be the only weakness in his game.  He's sound in gap assignments, pursues to the ball, and is as fundamentally sound a tackler on the team as Antoine Winfield.  I really can't praise the LB corps enough, because I think they are way overlooked when it comes to the success of the defense.  Yes, the defensive line gets a lot of press, but they wouldn't be nearly as good without quality linbackers filling the gaps and making the hits.

Chris Cook and Cedric Griffin, CB.  Both Cook and Griffin saw a lot of playing time yesterday, and they both played well.  Cook was squared up on Calvin Johnson and had one pass breakup that I can remember, and limited Johnson from a really big play.  Their return was a much needed shot in  the arm for a secondary that has been inconsistent up to this point.  Their presence seemed to elevate the play of the safeties as well, as both Husain Abdullah and Madieu Williams had good games.   

Junk Bonds:

Toby Gerhart, RB.  First, he injured his knee and missed the first game.  Last week, he was pretty much meh, in my opinion.  Yesterday, 3 carries for 12 yards and a fumble, which gave the Lions the ball and life in the fourth quarter.  The offense was driving for a score that would have iced the game, but Gerhart coughed it up.  The Lions were stopped by a Ben Leber interception on their ensuing drive, but not before they got inside the Vikes 5.  I see glimpses of the tough runner that was advertised coming out of college, but so far, his pro career has been slow to get going.  I see some power, but not a lot of speed, and average pass catching ability to this point.

Jared Allen, DE.  At the risk of being vilified by the DN community, I feel it's time to say what we've all (well, some of us) have been thinking:  Jared Allen hasn't been getting it done so far this year.  Sacks aren't the only statistic for a defensive end; I also like to see what kind of pressure the ends are bringing.  Ray Edwards has been doing a pretty good job, but Allen has, for long periods of time throughout the first three games, just disappeared.  8 tackles and one sack through three games is unacceptable for the best rushing DE in the business, and I'm sure he doesn't need a jackass like me to point that out.  Bring the mullet back!

Buy/Sell:  

Buy:  Ryan Cook, C.  C'mon, admit it.  When you saw John Sullivan go out after the first play and Cook come in to center you thought Ndamukong Suh would just dominate him all day.  I did.  Cook did very well for a guy that had never played the position in the NFL before.  I didn't really hear Suh's name called all day, and I give credit where credit is due here.  There was very little interior push by the Lions defensive line all day, pressure on Favre was sporadic,  Adrian Peterson had running room, so that means the blocking audibles called at the line by Cook worked, at least for the most part. 

SellPhil Loadholt, RT.  For the second consecutive week, Loadholt got dominated by a speed rush from the outside which resulted in a turnover.  Last week, the Dolphins recovered a Favre fumble in the end zone for a touchdown.  Yesterday, the defender was able to hit the ball just as Favre was releasing it, resulting in an easy interception.   

Buy:  Greg Camarillo, PR.  It didn't really show in the stat line, but Camarillo had a very good day as a punt returner.  The reason is didn't show up in the stats is because every good return he had was nullified by a penalty.  Camarillo isn't going to run away from people, but he is a north-south guy that gets the ball and gets upfield as quickly as he can.  I thought it was a vast improvement over the first two games, and it would seem that the Vikings have a permanent punt returner.

Sell:  Penalties.  Was it me, or were there about a hundred penalties called yesterday?  And really, I think at this point, 'Holding' should be moved from a penalty to a theory.  The way it's arbitrarily assessed is just plain ridiculous.  The Vikings were penalized an astonishing 12 times for 100 yards, and the Lions had 8 flags thrown against them.  There were ridiculous calls that went against both teams, and this is a screed not so much against the Vikings, but penalties in general.  I watched a few other games yesterday, and the regularity of insanely stupid calls was staggering, regardless of the teams involved.  Let 'em play, ref.

Buy:  Improved Safety Play.  I think that both Husain Abdullah and Madieu Williams had very good games.  Both made some big hits in run support, and laid the wood on a couple of pass plays down the middle.  There's still work to be done back there, but it was an encouraging sign after struggling through the first two games.

Sell:  Brett Favre.  He's getting better, but he's still not on the same page as the rest of the receivers.  Percy Harvin bailed out his overthrow on the TD pass, and he made some good throws, but he still doesn't either trust himself or his receivers, as he was checking down all day.  He threw another terrible interception that directly lead to Detroit's only TD, and it gave them the early lead.  On the road, against a better team, and it might've been a bigger deal than it already was.

Buy:  Offensive Line.  This is probably going to be an unpopular call around here, but I thought the offensive line, with the exception of a couple notable breakdowns, played well.  They gave Favre time to throw the ball and Peterson room to run, all while playing with a sub at center.  I thought Detroit's defensive line was playing on their side of the line of scrimmage for most of the day yesterday, and the good guys were able to impose their will on them in the second half.

Sell:  Visanthe Shiancoe's injury.  Shiancoe, hopefully, will be ready to go against the Jets in two weeks.  Whenever Jim Kleinsasser catches the ball, I give the guy a standing ovation.  Not to mock him, but just becuase I love the dude.  Every time he does catch it, though, the difference between him and Shiancoe is so obvious that it's not even funny.  It brings to mind the days of Robert Smith and Leroy Hoard in the Vikings backfield, with Kleinsasser the TE version of Hoard.  It was Hoard who famously said 'if you need four, I'll get you four.  If you need seven, I'll get you four.'  The offense is much better with Shiancoe, but I still love me some Jimmy K.

Game Ball Goes To:  Adrian Peterson, RB.  It's tough to top 163 yards, two TD's, and a game clinching 80 yard score.

So there's your Stock Market report for the week, boys and girls.  It was an ugly win, no doubt, but we'll take it and look forward to Monday Night Football with the Jets in two weeks.  Since we have a bye between now and that game, I leave it you you, the reader, to determine whether or not there is a Stock Market Report, NFL version, next week or not.  Let me know in the comments, or email me.

SKOL! 

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WOW!!

F@#$ING WOW!

She took that watermelon on!! WOW!!
I saw the preview on the tube, but didn’t see the serious melon spray until now!
Damn, that’s gotta sting.

I BELIEVE...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Sep 27, 2010 1:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Kind of a wonder she didn't get her nose broken.

And her sister says she has to finish. WTF

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Sep 29, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

on the report...

Good write up. I like them so I say keep them coming… maybe next week you can shake it up a bit and scout a division foe… one that wears green and gold. just sayin’.

I’m not sold on the O-Line yet, even though you want to buy. It was our biggest flaw last year (along with DBacks)…
The DBack situation seems to have improved yty, but the OTs just don’t seem to have it figured out.
I hear the pundits saying we are not built for pass protection, that our OTs are too big and slow to beat the speed rush to the outside. I’m inclined to agree until I see something else.
I will give them positive consideration for the run game AND situational pass protection… but on obvious passing situations… ensure your seatbelts are fastened and your tray tables are in the upright position, cuz it’s gonna be a bumpy ride!

I can’t argue with anything else… as I said, Solid Opinion. Thanks!

SKOL VIKES!

I BELIEVE...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Sep 27, 2010 1:13 PM CDT reply actions  

yes, bring back the mullet!!!

I said that yesterday, too, after the game. Jared is a beast…maybe marriage isn’t good for him (lower testosterone levels? contentedness?) He needs to get mean again. More contentious less contended.
  And wasn’t there some dude in the bible that lost all his mojo when they cut his hair?

by lorenzo4 on Sep 27, 2010 1:58 PM CDT reply actions  

If you want to get Allen fired up,

just say that Sanchez said something bad about his wife. I think that’s true, isn’t it?

Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted. - John Lennon

by JethroBoViking on Sep 27, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's something that should make him mad

Troy Tulowitzki of the Colorado Rockies has a better mullet now than JA had before

"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin

by thewild_viking_twins on Sep 27, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

2 guys that did a fantastic job and who i did not think would be all so good

Chris warcraft and Abdulla. Abdulla was making great tackles and hits and even at one point in the game i mistook him for Antoine. And Chris, hard to say anyything about him. He has really stepped up his game.

by muffin man on Sep 27, 2010 2:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Chris Warcraft is Chris Kluwe

Just listen to 93X. Everytime they have him on they introduce him as Chris Warcraft.

No one is getting Rubio's rights unless they pry them from our cold dead fingers.

by TheEvilProfessor on Sep 28, 2010 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wonder what character he plays on it.

HA HA HA HA They should have a commercial with him on it.. I’m a nightelf mohawk kicker!

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Sep 28, 2010 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

Kickers always seem so quirky.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Sep 29, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

The report looks good with the exception of the O-line buy

I saw a lot of replays of Favre getting beat up out there. Was he just holding on to the ball for too long? I don’t think so.

Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted. - John Lennon

by JethroBoViking on Sep 27, 2010 2:40 PM CDT reply actions  

i think you are going to see alot

of Favre holding onto the ball to long. One reason I think is since the timing isn’t there, he isn’t going to press throwing the ball when a guy is covered as we have all seen, has been leading to the INT. You are going to see alot of dink and dunk for now on in my opinion and this game was the start to that. Also, Favre will hang onto the ball to long simply because, and it was brought up during the game that he doesn’t care if he gets hit. He will stand there in the pocket and give his guys a chance to get open. Okay maybe he does care to a point but he has played this way for 20 years. I don’’t know if I am ready to sell Favre. True, that INT was costly, but that is a ball that usually gets muffed by the dlineman time and time again. The other INT was getting hit as he was throwing. You can’t blame the guy when he is in his throwing motion. I saw a guy getting the chit beat out of him and still getting back up to play. That arm to the head and the jerking of the neck was pretty wicked as it was bang bang. If you sell Favre, you have to sell the entire receiving corp as well. Like I said, I think we saw the future of the passing attack and that will be dink and dunk with the occasional long ball (just like in the beginning of last year). Again, im guilty of being a Favre homer but I am seeing the start of something here. The rest of the report was spot on man.

by SeanInEauClaireWi on Sep 27, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cook

Pretty sure Cook came into the league as a C. Not sure if he ever played a regular season game at the position but I am sure he did in preseason and practice. That is why he is so important to the team as he can backup pretty much every spot.

by Galkuris on Sep 27, 2010 2:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes, to next week please.

Nice report. Agree about Jared. Disagree about O-line – scared to death thinking about Peppers down the road.

Skol Vikings

by izziefans on Sep 27, 2010 2:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Do you think Peppers is going to get to Rodgers?

I think I’ll check with acmepacking to see what those guys are thinking. It’ll be my first time wandering into enemy territory.

Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted. - John Lennon

by JethroBoViking on Sep 27, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey Jethro, what did you find at acmepacking?

Well, I read a post titled “Saturday Morning Preview” by textwestern and I don’t think I saw a word written about Mr. Peppers. There was some mention of him in the comment section, mainly by Bears fans, but overall, I guess they aren’t too worried.

Will Rodgers be the next to get blindsided by JP? It won’t be long until we find out.

Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted. - John Lennon

by JethroBoViking on Sep 27, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ask Stafford how it is.

Also, we lost a game to Peppers alone last year. Does nobody remember? Chicago with Peppers and Chester Taylor and an Int-less Cutler is not easy to beat. Don’t write them off just yet. Let’s see what happens tonight.

Skol Vikings

by izziefans on Sep 27, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

O-line

I’ll back you up on the OL buy. I thought they did well considering they get no help from the guy’s calling the plays. I mean, I don’t remember any PA or draw play or anything that would keep them guessing or from pinning there ears back and going after our sitting duck QB. And Farve has been holding the ball a little too long probably cause nobody was open half the time. These lineman were hired to run block for Adrian they’re not great in pass protection you can’t have both. And that 80 yarder goes to the o-line cause the entire lions team was in the box and they blocked all but one a AD took care of him with a beauty of a stiff arm. They don’t get an A but they’re definantly doing better.

by Phat Cowboy on Sep 27, 2010 3:01 PM CDT reply actions  

oh and damn

u wanna talk about concussions, that chick had to get one. I like that whole, you gotta finish bit. Seriously, that was flippin hilarious.

by SeanInEauClaireWi on Sep 27, 2010 3:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Loadholt still needs

Some help in pass protection. Having a TE line up beside him and chip the DE on his way out would help.

Favre: It's rare to ever see a QB be so indecisive, waffle...
It's also unlikely to have one start 19 consecutive seasons.

by VikesPma on Sep 27, 2010 3:51 PM CDT reply actions  

There was a play in which a big run by AD was called back because Ryan Cook completely unnecessarily) clipped a Lion. Instead of a big gain, we took a 15 yard penatly,. I think your picture depicts that clip by Cook.

If I’m right then Cook is not being smart at all on that play, the silly guy in that picture is not Julian Peterson.

by puddnhead on Sep 27, 2010 4:00 PM CDT reply actions  

The original AP caption identified him as Julian Peterson

And have you ever been blasted in the face by jet exhaust? I submit Ryan Cook is being very smart.

"A parent's only as good as their dumbest kid. If one wins a Nobel Prize but the other gets robbed by a hooker, you failed."

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by Ted Glover on Sep 27, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol. But I wasn’t saying this isn’t Julina Peterson. I’m saying Julian Peterson is not the one doing the dumb thing in the picture. It’s Ryan Cook, committing a penalty that needless wiped out that nice jet propelled run, and furthermore put us 15 yards further back.

Your caption might be more accurate if it said this is a picture actually of Cook throwing a wrench into AP’s jets, forcing him back to the ground :)

by puddnhead on Sep 27, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m glad you gave some love to Abdullah. I was afraid most would overlook his effort.

It will give the team a break to rest what ails them, and allow Favre an extra week with his receivers.
I read Favre will stay in town through Friday, and even come in to Winter Park. But I haven’t heard that any receivers are going to stick around … have you? Can’t work with them if they’re not there.

At least collectively, our Beloved Purple aren’t shooting themselves in the face with a watermelon anymore.

Sadly, it’s half because Detroit kept shooting themselves with ’em first, to be honest.

by puddnhead on Sep 27, 2010 4:01 PM CDT reply actions  

He really was.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Sep 29, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Abdullah emblangada!

Favre: It's rare to ever see a QB be so indecisive, waffle...
It's also unlikely to have one start 19 consecutive seasons.

by VikesPma on Sep 30, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hoard

I thought he said, “If you need three yards, I’ll get you three yards. If you need four yards, I’ll get you three yards.”

by medicineball on Sep 27, 2010 6:36 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

"If you've got them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow."

John Wayne

by just another viking on Sep 27, 2010 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anthony Herrera!

He pancake-blocked Ndamukong Suh on Adrian Peterson’s 80 yard run. Video

Beautiful

by medicineball on Sep 27, 2010 6:37 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm glad that they finally won

They managed to beat a bad team that was starting their backup QB. I’m happy with that for now, but I need to see them win the next 2 before my hopes are as high as the playoffs again. Let’s wait until after week 6 or later to give anyone not named Winfield in the secondary any sort of kudos.

The real worry is that the offense could not pass for a 70 rating against a team that had allowed a passer rating of 107 last year—equivalent to allowing every QB they faced to perform as well as Brett Favre did in one of his 2 best seasons. The Lions had also allowed a passer rating of 110.9 in 2008 and 96.8 (only 2nd to last for a change) in 2007. The Lions had also allowed a passer rating of 108.1 against their first 2 opponents of this season (including Michael Vick), good for 4th worst.

In other words, the D looked good vs. a bad offense, and the passing offense looked bad vs. a poor pass defense. The team is still not out of the woods yet.

by KC Viking on Sep 27, 2010 6:44 PM CDT reply actions  

damn you must be one of those half-empty type of guys.

why so negative? I understand not proclaiming this game as the springboard for the playoffs but why are you so depressing? We get that it wasn’t a perfect game or even a great game. But for the love of all that is good, go sit down, have a drink, and stop being so depressing and let us enjoy 1 in the Win column.

by SeanInEauClaireWi on Sep 27, 2010 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes he is, so I wouldn't pay him much attention

He’s also really a chiefs fan. In fact now that theyre 3-0, I’m surprised he even can over to the DN today.

"We have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-from Bram Stoker's Dracula

by NMVike on Sep 27, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

By your definition, then

31 teams will never get out of the woods. Bummer.

"A parent's only as good as their dumbest kid. If one wins a Nobel Prize but the other gets robbed by a hooker, you failed."

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by Ted Glover on Sep 27, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

20 teams

will never make the playoffs this year.

by KC Viking on Sep 28, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scheffler 7 catches for 60 yards

Maybe the LBs are the real problem in terms of pass D?

by KC Viking on Sep 27, 2010 6:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Can't stop 'em all.

The other guys are getting paid too you know.

by Jepp The Viking on Sep 27, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Buy: R.Cook for starting center

Boy did he look comfortable at his natural position! I thought Cook played a lot better than Sully has all year. He is a way better run blocker than Sully and he held his blocks without holding! I was really impressed with his play against Suh, and he and Herrera wore Suh down. Cook looked like he had been playing center with the O-line for years, other than the OT play the O-line looked in sync with one another.
Abdullah had a solid game, after being out of position in the last two he really stepped it up, and Williams had a sound game as well.
Chris Cook has done nothing but impress me, boy am I glad none of you work in the FO. I remember all the boos when we traded down and took him instead of trading up for one of the ‘top’ Corners. His battle with Calvin was great to watch! He didn’t back down he just kept grinding and banging with megatron. The best part is this was his first NFL game and he is only going to get better. Seeing Ced back was great! I believe the sky’s the limit for our defense now.
JA was chipped and doubled most of the game but other than that good stock market report keep ’em coming.
SKOL VIKINGS!

by nmvikesfan on Sep 28, 2010 12:10 AM CDT reply actions  

Any word on the injuries yet?

Sully, Shank, Toby and AP?

I know, on being asked, Chilly said “They’ll live”

Skol Vikings

by izziefans on Sep 28, 2010 12:40 AM CDT reply actions  

I feel just a wee bit encouraged...

… even though it was the Lions.

First, the defense has been solid. And we are just getting up to full strength now. Cook and Griffin there are really going to make a difference.

If we can just get the passing game to click, we are good. I say, if we are .500 by mid season, and can get Sidney Rice back, we make a strong run. I could see us still taking the division, or having a solid wild card run right now.

The Packers look so beatable. They lost to the Bears, and the Bills gave them a good game. Their schedule is going to run into some tougher games. The Bears have been insanely fortunate. Their defense looks for real to keep it close, but then the wins have required lots of luck.

You don’t thump your chest when the Lions should have beat you at home, whether you are 3-0 or not.

Vikings are still in this thing for sure. Just need to get healthy and get some offensive rhythm. Favre is going to be ok, I predict.

by HammeroftheGods on Sep 28, 2010 3:21 AM CDT reply actions  

What?

what game where you watching?

You don’t thump your chest when the Lions should have beat you at home, whether you are 3-0 or not.

It didn’t really seem to me that the Lions played better than us, actually when your finishing the third quarter and you feel comfortable that your team is going to win I think that’s the opposite of what you’re saying.

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Sep 28, 2010 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

All I can say is I saw some Lions receivers looking like they didn't want to catch that ball.

Pettigrew about crapped himself twice and miffed two totally catchable balls. Head hunters on parade people. There is a reason why you like strong physical corners and safeties. If that receiver hears footsteps… Cook looked to play an excellent game. I would be worriedif I was Sully. Looked like the man really stepped it up when it mattered. To do it against Suh who has made a couple of centers this year look bad, is a serious compliment. I hope Brett pulls a golden key out of his butt, because he’s going to need to find that arm of his soon.

I did read some where that after last year Chilly is seeing a lot of defenses trying to stop the pass now which is opening up a lot more of AP’s abilities. Chilly also stated that Favre audibled out of several pass plays because a run play seemed to make more sense. This might be the reason why we actually kept running during the second half.

I hope this sets Favre at ease, and he realizes that he doesn’t have to win the game on his own anymore.

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Sep 28, 2010 8:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Solid points, Grime

The pain a safety inflicts on a receiver when he catches the ball is inversely proportional to the length od said receiver’s arms in the future. Abdallah and Williams were laying the wood to people, and it seemed (I could be wrong here) that the Lions quit going over the middle in the second half and stayed with outs and quick hitters to the sidelines in the second half.

And if Favre realizes that he doesn’t have to win it and feeds the beast, I think the Vikes will be okay. He’s gotta quit forcing the stupid throws, though.

"A parent's only as good as their dumbest kid. If one wins a Nobel Prize but the other gets robbed by a hooker, you failed."

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by Ted Glover on Sep 28, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Your right about Favre

Any coincedence, with Favre’s subject play, that we havent heard much from REVENGE4FAVRE lately?

Favre: It's rare to ever see a QB be so indecisive, waffle...
It's also unlikely to have one start 19 consecutive seasons.

by VikesPma on Sep 28, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chilly also stated that Favre audibled out of several pass plays because a run play seemed to make more sense. This might be the reason why we actually kept running during the second half.

That can’t be true. Everyone knows that Favre is a selfish diva who doesn’t care as much about winning as he does about getting attention, and only audibles from runs to passes, not other way around. Or that’s what I’ve been told anyway. 50% of the posters at Acme can’t be wrong, can they?

by puddnhead on Sep 28, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hope this sets Favre at ease, and he realizes that he doesn’t have to win the game on his own anymore.

see ‘97 and ’98 denver broncos….it worked for them, but they didn’t have chilly/bevell either.

in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.

by jethrophet on Sep 28, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I read somewhere that since the bye week started in 2006 . The teams with a week four bye have gone 2-11 in the playoffs .

We will have to shake those odds . Hell ! The Bears are leading the division . That’s a good sign . We will be a different team in week 10 . Steve Young agrees with me on Monday Night . Chicago can’t run the ball . December’s swirling winds and low pressure will make the Bears a much different team then . As they play NE and NYJ at Home and GB away in December . Steve wouldn’t admit it . But . GB can’t run either . And the Frozen tundra won’t be that fun for Rodgers to defend without his 1200 yards a year back . GB’s December schedule is lighter but very cold indeed .

by gothicpurple on Sep 28, 2010 9:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Yes, but in years where the last game they played was on an even date Sunday, and the year is an even year, and the team’s home stadium is west of the Mississippi in a city that begins with a letter between H and S, the teams are 2-0 in the playoffs!

by puddnhead on Sep 28, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I did a fact check and you are right on the money, except

for the players that get out of bed on the left side.

Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted. - John Lennon

by JethroBoViking on Sep 28, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

but only guys who play defense, don’t forget

by puddnhead on Sep 29, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I guess Ray Edwards is not allowed to use his athletic

Ability to jump over DEs. If he barely touches the QB even around the shoulders they are calling hit to the head on the QB. If he goes helmet to helmet I can understand but a light graising because he jumped over a defender is stupid. Let Edwards be the athletic beast that he is.

Favre: It's rare to ever see a QB be so indecisive, waffle...
It's also unlikely to have one start 19 consecutive seasons.

by VikesPma on Sep 28, 2010 1:07 PM CDT reply actions  

i think they called that penalty because he demonstrated "illegal threat potential to the qb".

(i.e. he simply scared the quarterback with “overt manacing behavior”).

in the future there will be no war...there will only be rollerball.

by jethrophet on Sep 28, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

If a DE has to and can jump over the tackle, so be it.

If a Tackle goes low jump over him, don’t take that away unless there is direct helmet to helmet contact with the QB.

Favre: It's rare to ever see a QB be so indecisive, waffle...
It's also unlikely to have one start 19 consecutive seasons.

by VikesPma on Sep 28, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right on with Jared

But it is just not this year. He had a great first year here. Last year if you look when a majority of his sacks came it was when the game was over and the opposing team was passing everydown. When the game is still in doubt and it is third down and it is time for the D to get off the field on 3 and passing. He will be found looping around the QB yet again. AP has the fire to be the BEST. Jared only wants to be the best talker, showboater. People figured out with Allan Page ( a great lineman) that you ran at him and his quickness would take him out of the play. The NFC has figured out that you just let Jared loop himself out of the play. He is a terror thought when the game is no longer in doubt if we have a big lead. WE need some of the JETS to really insult him or something.

by ZygiZag on Sep 28, 2010 10:31 PM CDT reply actions  

JA...

Does not need to get sacks on every play to be effective…
The fact that he gets double up on is evidence of his effectiveness.

I BELIEVE...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Sep 28, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Opportunities

The double-teams that Jared Allen draws have opened up opportunities for Kevin Williams and Ray Edwards to make plays on the quarterback. While I would love to see Allen doing his post-sack calf-roping routine every time an opposing offense steps on the field, it is good to see that even when he isn’t the rest of the defensive line is capitalizing on the double-coverage he draws.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

by Skol Girl on Sep 29, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Amen to that...

… but he should still pick up 10+ sacks. But the whole line needs to step it up a bit. Pressure is also key, even without sacks. Overall I think the defensive line is playing well enough, but there is room to get better.

I think Allen has 1 sack in 3 games, but I saw a lot of pressure too. Remember, last year he might have averaged 1 per game, but they came in bunches. He had 3 I think against Green Bay, maybe twice. Something like that.

Anyhow, 1 sack for 3 games isn’t bad at all, as long as he eventually comes around and has a few 2-3 sack games. Getting sacks against Green Bay and Chicago are really where we need them.

by HammeroftheGods on Sep 29, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

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